October 16, 2025 • 35 mins
Jared Isaacman could actually head NASA after being dropped from consideration. SpaceX successfully launched the final Version 2 Starship Super Heavy this week. A NASA payload unintentionally landed on a West Texas ranch. Aurora could be coming to the US tonight!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Warning.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
The following podcast contains an entertaining look at astronomy, physics,
and space news throughout the known universe. Listeners have been
known to learn about astronomical phenomenon, the scientific method, and
expanded vocabulary to include terms like quasar asterism and uranus. Listen,
that's your own risk.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
When made of stars, made them stars, madies. When made
of stars, you could be from high they would New Mexicomus.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
Where are.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Stars?
Speaker 5 (00:43):
When we are made of stars?
Speaker 6 (00:56):
I'm West Carol, joined by my good friend doctor Sean
Cruising from Columbus State University's Coca Cola Space Science Center.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Morning Sean, Good morning, Wes's good to be here today.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
We have a.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
Couple of really interesting stories here, and it's not to
say that the others aren't interesting. We just have two
that are especially interesting and this we're not going to
start with this one, but it's especially interesting to me
that we were very excited about the person who was
originally picked to head up NASA and then suddenly, like
(01:30):
things just went south quickly. It was like all of
a sudden things got really weird in DC and then
he wasn't the pick to head up NASA. And now
it seems that talks have begun again, but we'll get
to that in a minute. That's just that's exciting for
us because anybody who's been following this show for a
(01:52):
length of time knows how excited we were at Jared
Isaacsman's name, his name being in the in talks at
least to head up now. But we'll get to that
in a minute. First, I want to start with SpaceX.
There's absolutely no connection between Isaacman and SpaceX except that
he and Elon are buddies. But they have had another
successful launch, and this is good. We need more successful launches.
Speaker 7 (02:15):
We like successful launches. And yes, no connection whatsoever. None,
pay no attention to the billionaire behind the curtain. Oh wait,
they're both billionaires.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
That's right.
Speaker 7 (02:26):
It's hard to know which ones behind the curtain. All right,
So anyway, let's go ahead and just talk about hardware first.
I like talking about flight hardware. And SpaceX launched their Starship,
but they launched it with their super heavy booster, which
is a version two booster. Now why is this important, Well,
(02:46):
it's because that's the last one. They're about to move
on to version three. And as the titles of these
rocket projects might indicate their moveing on to a more
advanced concept, right, So they're moving on from version two
to version three the next launch, and Version three obviously
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has a number of upgrades which they've learned from their
agile development engineering process of blowing up rockets in various
stages and figuring out what goes wrong, and the improvements
are made on the version three.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Booster that's coming.
Speaker 7 (03:23):
Okay, now, if anybody is in our listening audience and
doesn't know what Starship is, welcome. We'd like to welcome
into the show because obviously you have not been a
long time listener. But Starship is the launch vehicle that
Elon Musk is under contract with NASA to use as
a landing vehicle for NASA's Artemis program, the return to
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the Moon, specifically during Artemis three. The current model has
what's called the Orion spacecraft launching to space aboard the
Space Launch System, which is NASA's heavy lift, and that
Orion capsule flies all the way to lunar orbit and
there in the orbit around the Lovely Moon, it will
(04:10):
dock up with a SpaceX Starship, and then Starship will
be the vehicle that takes that group of astronauts down
to the surface, lands safely and vertically, then allows those
astronauts to explore the Moon for a while. Then they
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jump back on the starship vehicle from SpaceX, lift off
the lunar surface, fly back to lunar orbit where they
redock with their sports car like Orion capsule, and return.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Back to the Earth.
Speaker 7 (04:46):
Okay, so that's the plan, right, So what has to happen, Well,
we have to get very good at launching. We have
to get very good at launching SLS first, and so
SLS is going to schedule right now to launch its
second flight called Artemis two, and put astronauts around the
back side of the Moon sometime early next year, and
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a NASA had originally announced somewhere between February and April.
We now know that they're leaning toward the front of
that launch window. They're trying to get this done as
soon as possible. There's some rumors that we're racing the
Chinese to be the first nation to put boots back
on the surface of the Moon, and so obviously with
the Trump administration in place, that's a very high priority,
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and so they have tried to move up that timeline
but they can't walk on the Moon until Starship is
capable of actually flying to the Moon. So Starship has
to be able to get up there and be that
transfer vehicle to get down to the surface. So that's
why a Starship rocket launching on Monday of this week,
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October thirteenth and having a near flawless flight out of
Star Based, Texas, which is a town that used to
be called Bokachika, but they actually changed the name of
the town.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
I just find this amazing.
Speaker 7 (06:11):
So Star Based, Texas, that rocket launched about six twenty
three pm Central daylight time. But who's counting to that
level of accuracy off of something they call launchpad A
at Starbase, and it went on roughly a one hour flight.
Here's what we know. Everything worked to near perfection. The rocket,
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boosters aboard the main stage that that super heavy lift
vehicle all worked great. They had one engine that didn't
reignite during the boost back burn, but it did reignite
during the landing burn, and they were able to land
that vehicle, which is fantastic. So then the actual rocket,
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the actual spacecraft itself, which is just called ship. If
you talk to people, If you talk to people at SpaceX.
They use words like ship and booster. We try to
round that out a little bit more here on the
podcast and say, that's the spaceship that they call starship,
except the whole rocket's called starship, and it's part ship
and part booster. So ship performed all of its maneuvers
(07:27):
very close to flawlessly, made its way toward the Indian Ocean,
and on the way it was able to jettison eight
large metal rectangles. You know, imagine those things from two
thousand and one Space Odyssey something like that. Yeah, we
don't know what those were made out of, but and
maybe it's not exactly Maybe I should have made that comparison. Anyway,
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it's just big rectangles. Okay, So why did they just
launch a bunch of random big rectangles. Well, those random
big rectangles were to simulate the size and mass of
future our ship version three satellite deployment, right, And so
this was you're basically just launching dead payload weight to
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approximate future payloads that you're going to launch on the vehicle.
But the deployment of those very large rectangles all went flawlessly,
and then that vehicle ship was able to reignite its
raptor engines and do a deorbit burn which approximates the
approximates coming back in and landing vertically, and so all
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of that went exactly to plan and so and actually
the whole vehicle made it through its point of peak
heating as well as the greatest point of atmospheric pressure.
These are very important milestones in testing a rocket because
it means the structural integrity of your vehicle is sufficient
to complete all these tasks. Guess what success? Version two success? Right,
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So all of these milestones were reached with the Version
two vehicle. How much better is version three gonna be? Well,
we're gonna find out on the very next starship launch
because they're graduating from version two to version three. That
sounds like a lot of really good things happening from
SpaceX on the way to helping NASA accomplish its Artemis
(09:18):
mission of landing human beings on the surface of the move.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
Now, I'm no rocket surgeon. I can just tell you
this that I you know, just not being an expert,
but I'm guessing that version three will be one better
than version two. That's just my I'm just putting this
out there because I think version two was one better
than version one. That's just been my experience in observing
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all of this. Now it's been significantly better in that Hey,
we've had success. I mean I know that SpaceX would
say we had success with the others because this is
the way we do science, as we blow things up
and then go, oh, let's don't blow the next one up.
And even if it blows up again, they go, well,
it blow up for a different reason, and now we
know how to fix that. So it's just all part
(10:02):
of the way they science.
Speaker 7 (10:04):
Yeah, and you know, I'm no mathematician, but two is
at least double one, that's right, And on most occasions
three is considered thirty three point three percent better than two.
So you know, this is just simple math.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Check me if you want with your calculator on your phone.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
And for our gen Z and gen Alpha crowd, hang
in there. We'll eventually get to versions six'. SEVEN i
Think i'm using that. RIGHT i don't. Know i'm not
cool enough for all those six seven. Jokes but, anyway,
well this is all good because we are making that.
Progress AND i say we just we're observing, it and,
collectively it's nice to see these private companies AND nasa
(10:44):
working together to help make all this eventually become the
dream of you, know putting, feet actual boots on the.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Ground on other.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
In one, case the, moon in another Case. MARS i
mean that's what the other long term goal we're working on.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
For all of this.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
Stuff so this is. Exciting it's an exciting. Time we're
back in a moon, race, right.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
It, is it really.
Speaker 7 (11:07):
Is and, listen we joke on this, show but this
is a seriously important endeavor for The United states Of
america and The american space. Program and you know what
other segment Of american society is working quite as well AS.
SpaceX i, mean there probably are, Some i'm just not
(11:28):
thinking of, them but but they're not, many, RIGHT i,
mean we are living in an exciting, time, friends because
we're living in a time Where american engineers and rocket
scientists and you, know maybe kids that you knew growing
up that went often and got engineering, degrees and now
(11:50):
we're working AT SpaceX AND i know some of. Those
i've gotten an opportunity to meet some of those. Folks
they're making it. Happen and so to see all of
The falcon nine successful launches again and, again it's so
common THAT SpaceX has a Successful falcon nine launch from
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the general area of The Kennedy Space, center that it's
not even worth news, Anymore like we don't even.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Cover it on the.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
Podcast it's, like oh, yeah AND SpaceX launched three more
rockets since we were with you last and we do
a weekly show and it's really about the, cadence, right
it's like every two to three. Days so that's become
so commonplace that it's no longer. Newsworthy that in itself is.
Amazing and then when you see the largest and most
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powerful rocket in human history launch from what used to
be Called Boca, Chica texas now It's star Based texas
and complete all these milestone successfully on its way to
Helping americans return to the surface of The. Moon and,
yes we're going to take A canadian along with, us
because let's just face, it we Like. Canada we like
(13:02):
those people up. THERE i know there's been some spats
in the news, lately but we like The. Canadians let's
take them to the. Moon they're going to ride along with,
us all. Right so the whole point of this idea
is that we are succeeding in these endeavors As, americans
and it's an important thing both industrially and, yes through
(13:23):
our governmental, programs they're working. Together that partnership is. WORKING
i can't tell you something really that's. Working WHAT i
would say better than that, partnership because it's that partnership
seems to be working really.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Well for the, record my mother in law was born In.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
Canada so we Love canadians here on this, show no
doubt we Love.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Canadians who doesn't Love.
Speaker 8 (13:46):
CANADIANS i, mean think of the Band, RUSH i, Mean William. Shatner,
well my wife is technically like Half, canadian and my
kids are Core canadian by that, Logic so we're Big
canadian fans in this.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
House that's All i'm.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
SAYING i, MEAN i you, KNOW i love a good you,
know maple leaf now and.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
AGAIN i just watched The John candy, documentary by the,
way that's On prime and it is.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Fantastic one of the Great.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
Canadians Tim Horton's Tim, Horton, Well, TIMONS i, mean you,
know keep a box of tissues handy if you watch
The John candy, documentary even though you know how it,
ends just keeps some tissues.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Handy that's All i'm, saying.
Speaker 7 (14:24):
So, LOOK i did see that thing posted to that
that as my. ATTENTION i haven't seen it, yet BUT
i really do want it's really very very.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
Good all, Right let's now work our way to the
story that we kind of tease at the, beginning because
this is one of those news.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Things when it popped, up.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
It was, like, huh wait a, minute what because not
often do you see like, this especially when it comes
to like, okay because there's so many people that you would, think,
oh this person could head UP. Nasa there's a lot
of qualified people that could do, it but there's one
in particular that when we had this new presidency and
(14:59):
all these names start getting popped around and we Hear
Jared isagman's name to head UP, nasa the pick by
The trump, administration you, go.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Well this is like the perfect.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
One there's no one better coming in from the private,
side with lots of work on the private, side someone
who's been to space multiple, times someone who has big
picture ideas long. TERM i, mean this just seemed like
exactly that bridge that kind of comes like we just
talked about in the previous, story when you start talking
(15:31):
ABOUT nasa AND sls and you start talking ABOUT, SpaceX
all of these long term. Projects the guy Was Jared,
isagman and you AND i just, did, LIKE i think
we did a whole show about how Great jarediagman would
be to head UP, nasa and then all of a
sudden one day it was just like you could hear
the breakes just you, know and you could hear the truck,
(15:52):
skidding and we're, like wait a, minute he is no
longer in consideration to head UP. Nasa and then you, go,
oh it seemed like that was the guy that was
the perfect.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Guy, WELL.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
I don't know that you get many chances to go
back and get a do, over but it seems at
least his name is back in. Conversation SO i GUESS
i would ask you, this AND i don't know if
you know the answer to, This but is it because
Like i'm just an idiot for thinking there's lots of qualified,
people or is it because he was that good of
a Pick and now they're, going, well maybe we need
(16:27):
to revisit.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
This, well you, know there's not so many qualified people
out there that they're in my circle of, friends, Right
like none of them are having spuds and SuDS with.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Me if you know What i'm. Saying that's.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
Fair SO i, mean AND i know some really cool,
people But i'm just not sure we're that good of.
Friends so DON'T i don't think that there are a
vast number of people that have the kinds of resume
points That Jared isaacman.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Has let's just say it this.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
Way in all the history OF, nasa there have been
only two administrators OF, nasa only two who've actually been to,
space and That's Bill nelson And Richard, truly both. Astronauts
and of Course Bill nelson was a senator before he
was an, astronaut so he's like a senator that went
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to space and became an. Astronaut Richard truly, was you,
know actually an astronaut. First, Right so and we make these,
distinctions we argue about who's an astronaut and who's. Not
and we Have Katy perry in the mix Of Bill
nelson also Also, canadian, right, yeah, TRUE i hadn't thought
about that yet Another canadian in today's. Conversation So Bill
(17:40):
nelson's not a not A Katie perry type almost went
to space person Like Katy. Perry, Like, OKAY i Know
i'm arguing a point from a previous. Show Katy perry
is some kind of an astronaut in my, Book, yeah,
no was brave enough to strap herself to A Blue
origin rocket and get lifted above The carmen. LINE i
(18:03):
Think Katie perry doesn't get enough. CREDIT i fall on that, side,
Okay But Bill nelson was a legit trained WITH nasa
astronaut who spent time aboard The Space shuttle right in.
Orbit so the whole point of that is only two of.
Them So Jared isaacman has already been to. Space he
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was the first ever commercial astronaut to do a spacewalk IN.
Eva he's been to an altitude that is beyond the
altitude of most astronauts That i've ever been up to space.
Before so one of his two missions went really far
away from The, earth like not halfway to The, moon
but far a high orbit above The, earth which is
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one of the necessary things to go to The.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Moon the point, is the.
Speaker 7 (18:51):
Dude has been, there, right he understands what it, takes
what kind of courage it, takes and what kind of
belief in the engineering system you have to have to
strap yourself into a seat and go to. Space so to,
me that's a really good resume point because he knows
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he's going to be in charge of a program that's
going to put other people in that same, position and
keeping the engineering integrity very high and the safety standards
very high.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Would be a top.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
Priority in addition to, that he's also a pretty smart.
Dude he made himself a billionaire in the industries around,
aviation so there's that. Too and and, yeah he does
have this kind of relationship With Elon musk because the
vehicles that he flew onto space WERE SpaceX. Vehicles, NOW
(19:47):
i Think isacman himself kind of dialed, back like how
close are friends that he And elon really?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Were he's, like, well, LOOK i worked with the.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
GUY i know the, guy AND i think he might
have said something to the effect OF i don't think
we have spuds and SuDS together that.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
OFTEN i don't think he really said that along those.
Lines he's, like if.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
He amazing, coincidence he's not going.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
To be at my daughter's.
Speaker 7 (20:10):
Wedding but you, know it's like we know each other
right because we've worked. Together that's the.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Thing he's like a work friend Of Elon.
Speaker 7 (20:16):
Musk so SO i think That Jared eisaman himself has
a list of criteria on his resume that would make
him an OUTSTANDING nasa. Director and, Listen wes AND i
said these things on a previous show where we were
where we were considering his nomination the first, time, right
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and so SO i just want to come back and
say this again. Now so here's what's been reported In.
Reuters there's a couple other outlets of the report of.
This reuters dot com had these.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Facts two.
Speaker 7 (20:48):
Things number, One isaac been met last week With President
trump to talk about a reconsideration for the post OF nasa.
Administrator number, two after having spoken with pros And, Trump
isaacman met with the ACTING nasa, administrator who Is Sean
duffy last week sometime as a, candidate an official candidate
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for leading the space. Agency so says A nasa. Spokesperson
who did they say that To? Reuters check Out reuters
dot com for the. Story what are the Implications Wes
wes said. Something i'm going to go it's hardly ever
that We i'm gonna go ahead and go with never
WE i don't believe we've ever seen somebody who's been,
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well what's the word DECONSIDERED i don't know from the consideration,
process like booted from. CONSIDERATION i don't think we've ever
seen anybody booted from consideration FOR nasa. Administrator that just
a few months later was, like, okay well let's talk
about that.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Again maybe we were wrong the first.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
Time and, yes things are unusual right.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Now, Friends DC's a weird.
Speaker 7 (21:59):
Place things are happening that don't usually, happen and now
is when we record the, show the place doesn't even.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Open that's, true AND i kind of it kind of made.
Well ONE i was kind of, thinking like in any
sort of like cabinet position or one of these appointed,
positions like it being very rare for them to get,
revisited not SPECIFICALLY, nasa but but, yes as the government
shut down right, NOW i would imagine that The Transportation
Secretary Sean duffy has a lot going on right, now
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but he probably would happily UNLOAD nasa. Somewhere SO i
think there's, probably you, know there's probably some SOME i
guess encouragement on his part to find the right. Candidate
AND i don't, know maybe that's how you come across and,
go did we have anybody in this pile that was
really good. Before, yeah why did we not go with this?
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Guy, listen we.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
Can only imagine in these, conversations but it's. Comical it's
comical to.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Do, so and we like comedy here on our.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
Podcast so just Imagine Sean duffy walking Into President trump's
office one day and, Saying, Uh President, TRUMP i do
HAVE i do have one idea for a POSSIBLE nasa. Administrator,
yeah there's this fellow.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
By the name Of.
Speaker 7 (23:10):
Isaacman have you considered this not you've heard of?
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Him have you considered this? Guy he seems like he
might be a good.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Guy you.
Speaker 7 (23:20):
KNOW i was just recently looking over his resume and
it seems to check off many of the boxes that
we're looking, For, sir when we want to RECONSIDER i,
mean DO i say, RECONSIDERED i mean consider someone for
the post OF nasa. Administrator Perhaps Jared, isisagman who's actually
been to?
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Space is a is a good? Consideration what do you,
think Mister? President what do you?
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Think who's that?
Speaker 6 (23:41):
Guy?
Speaker 7 (23:41):
Again? Isagman? YEAH i don't, know if you say?
Speaker 1 (23:44):
So he talk to that?
Speaker 6 (23:46):
Guy does he have any good uh like a letter
of recommendation from anybody we, know anything like?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
That that maybe he's.
Speaker 7 (23:52):
Huge anybody vouched for in the aerospace, industry he's?
Speaker 6 (23:55):
Huge could anybody vouch for him at? ALL i think
there's a.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Guy would do we have any references on?
Speaker 6 (24:02):
FILE i have to correct myself BECAUSE i let us
down a path that was completely. Wrong Katie perry born
In Santa, Barbara. CALIFORNIA i blew that. One she just
Feels canadian because you, know she's Dating Justin. Trudeau SO
i think maybe that's maybe that's why in my BRAIN
i thought she's got to Be. Canadian, right there's a
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Little canadian in there.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Somewhere there you.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
Go coming up after a quick, break we will talk
about an interesting payload that landed FROM nasa that landed In.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Texas we'll do that.
Speaker 9 (24:36):
Next oh, goodness it's my favorite joke of the.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
SHOW i think we you've ever. HAD i love. IT
i absolutely love.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
It All, right let's talk about THIS nasa payload that
just fell out of the sky on a ranch In West.
Speaker 7 (25:08):
Texas, well first of, all you live In West. Texas
let's just set the story up. Right imagine yourself living
In have you Visited West?
Speaker 6 (25:14):
TEXAS i have, not BUT i imagine they listened To Marty,
robbins a lot there.
Speaker 7 (25:18):
Probably, PROBABLY i, would you, know out in The odessa
area WHICH i, visited there's there are some lovely people
who live in The odessa, area AND i hope some
of them do listen to the.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
PODCAST i think that they're.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
Probably willing to admit that it would be a pretty
good place to Do mars. Simulations it's a really, flat dusty,
prairie just like kind of not too many people out,
there like On mars. Almost and so so here's the.
Thing imagine you're living there and suddenly you see something
floating down from the sky and it's not something. Small it's,
(25:53):
big and it's an. Object it's slowly drifting across the,
sky but it's doing so in a decent.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Manner it's coming.
Speaker 7 (26:01):
Down. Now this story has been reported in lots of.
Locations i'm going to be QUOTING Ap. News so according
TO Ap, news a lady by the name Of Ann
walter was looking outside her Rural West texas home when
she saw something large drifting across the sky in a
way that it was allowing it to descend into her
neighbor's wheat. Field and this this, thing upon further, inspection
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once it got to the, GROUND i, guess and and
her neighbor went out and looked at. It it's a
big piece of scientific equipment and it has these stickers
all over, it and THEY'RE nasa. Stickers and this thing's
attached to a. Parachute it's about the size of an
suv and it's just sitting out in the dusty wheat
(26:47):
field Of West, texas Near Anne walter's. Home so she
did what anyone would do on something like, this called law.
Enforcement we're being. Invaded oh, no, wait THERE'S nasa. Sticker
so upon calling the local sheriff's, office she learned THAT
nasa was indeed looking for a missing piece of. Equipment,
(27:09):
hey we lost. Something if anybody out there reports this
coveany let us. Know. Okay, so according To nwalter, quote
it's crazy because when you're standing on the ground and
see something in the, air you don't realize how big it.
Is it was probably a thirty foot. Parachute it was.
(27:30):
Huge and what she found out is that later she
got a call from NASA's Columbia Scientific Balloon. Facility it's
not a space. Payload, REMEMBER nasa is The National aeronautics
And Space. Administration, well there's the aeronautics part in there.
Too they do things in the atmosphere like airplanes and
(27:52):
balloons and study the atmospheric. Effects, Right so this was
A nasa scientific payload designed to study the atmosphere of The.
Earth it probably flown something on the order of twenty
miles into space toward, space not into space toward, space
but then it came down In West. Texas it was
(28:13):
launched from THAT Nasa Columbia Scientific Balloon, facility which is
In Fort, Sumner New, mexico about one hundred and forty
miles west Of West. Texas and by the, way if
you go To West texas and then you go west
one hundred and forty, miles.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
You're really in The.
Speaker 7 (28:27):
West, Friends you're deep in The west by that, point
just so you'd know, Anyway so this is kind of
A western. Tail it's A western tail of, Cowboys West,
texas an adventure and a GIANT nasa payload that landed
in somebody's. Field yet they got a little bit out of.
Control they did lose track of. It they couldn't figure
out where it came. Down thank you To Anne walter
(28:47):
and her neighbor for reporting this MASSIVE nasa payload which
drifted into a farm In West.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
Texas fun, fact the Song El paso By Marty robbins
tells you the entire plot To Breaking. Bad, seriously he
just kind of modeled the whole show after the Song El,
paso which is kind of fascinating but, anyway.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
More made of. Stars right after, this.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
All, right let's talk About, aurora because we've been following
some solar activity and here we. Go looks like we
could be seeing Some. Aurora maybe not this far, south
but at least parts of THE.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
Us regular listeners will know THAT i absolutely love talking
About aurora and just solar phenomenon in. General But i'm
still trying to wrap my head About West, Texas El
paso And Breaking. Bad i'm gonna have to go listen
to that song again and just like like relive the
plot of of the.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
Series just know That, fellina the girl is you, know blue,
meth just just fill, in like replace. That and then
he even named the finale of the Show, fellina which
of course you rearrange the letters to spell finale and.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
It's, it.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Dude it is so amazing.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
When you listen to it and you go hang on
wait a, minute, anyway.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
To all that was trying to actually listen to this.
Podcast i'm sorry we got interrupted, here but that thought
has just blown my.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Mind, yeah, yeah it's pretty pretty darn.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
Good at one point in my, Life i've worked in
A west The western theme park AND i heard that
song approximately eighteen times a, week and so Now i'm
at to just reconsider all those.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Lyrics thank You wes for rocking my. WORLD i appreciate.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
It it's JUST i didn't even catch.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
It LIKE i, MEAN i remember the name of the,
show the finale Being fellina going, Huh and then there's
even a point in the show where he's listening to
the song and you, go wait a, minute this guy
laid it all out for us and.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Everything, anyway that was so.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
Good i'm sure that's like people are out there on
the area and, going, yeah you haven't heard that one,
before but APPARENTLY i. Haven't so that's news to, me
even though it's probably not news in a news.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Sense, hey you know what is news this very?
Speaker 7 (31:11):
Night as we're recording this Podcast, tonight all you listeners
who have the bell set and get an immediate notification
tonight be watching For aurora phenomenon across the lower forty
eight because The sun has been belching out some coronal
mass ejections over the last few, days and they're moving
in such a way that they're gonna. Combine some fast
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ones came out after some slow, ones and as they
move from The sun to The, earth they're all going to.
Combine the fast ones catching up with the preview preceding slow.
Ones they're all going to combine right here at The
earth and possibly trigger A g two class geomagnetic storm
to night as they. Arrive, so particularly listeners in the
northern tier Of. States But, wes you AND i have
(31:56):
heard that. Before we, Have, yes we've heard it before
when they, said, oh, hey northern Interier, states be. Watching
but then down here in The south where you AND i,
live we've we've seen some northern lights in the last eighteen, months,
RIGHT i, mean we've seen some, stuff and so so
we like to tell all of our listeners just keep
an eye on. Things, now how do you keep an
(32:17):
eye on? Things, well obviously you can just run outside
in some kind of LIKE ocd, man or just continue
to look at the sky throughout the early, evening or
you can sign up for text messages alerts from spaceweather
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if those numbers get into the favorable, category.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Which by the, way all that's explained on the.
Speaker 7 (32:51):
Website if they get into the favorable, category then you
can run outside in AN ocd manner and look up
at the sky and perhaps catch northern lights in your. Neighborhood,
friends this is fun for the entire. Family make sure
you share it with your children and the neighbors and
anybody who doesn't run away from you when you begin
talking about these things.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Like they do.
Speaker 7 (33:10):
Me but, anyway just enjoy a possible geomagnetic storm tonight
with some potential beautiful northern lights appearing over the.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Lower forty eight in the next twenty four.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
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Speaker 3 (01:02):
Morning Sean, Good morning, Wes's good to be here today.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
We have a.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
Couple of really interesting stories here, and it's not to
say that the others aren't interesting. We just have two
that are especially interesting and this we're not going to
start with this one, but it's especially interesting to me
that we were very excited about the person who was
originally picked to head up NASA and then suddenly, like
(01:30):
things just went south quickly. It was like all of
a sudden things got really weird in DC and then
he wasn't the pick to head up NASA. And now
it seems that talks have begun again, but we'll get
to that in a minute. That's just that's exciting for
us because anybody who's been following this show for a
(01:52):
length of time knows how excited we were at Jared
Isaacsman's name, his name being in the in talks at
least to head up now. But we'll get to that
in a minute. First, I want to start with SpaceX.
There's absolutely no connection between Isaacman and SpaceX except that
he and Elon are buddies. But they have had another
successful launch, and this is good. We need more successful launches.
Speaker 7 (02:15):
We like successful launches. And yes, no connection whatsoever. None,
pay no attention to the billionaire behind the curtain. Oh wait,
they're both billionaires.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
That's right.
Speaker 7 (02:26):
It's hard to know which ones behind the curtain. All right,
So anyway, let's go ahead and just talk about hardware first.
I like talking about flight hardware. And SpaceX launched their Starship,
but they launched it with their super heavy booster, which
is a version two booster. Now why is this important, Well,
(02:46):
it's because that's the last one. They're about to move
on to version three. And as the titles of these
rocket projects might indicate their moveing on to a more
advanced concept, right, So they're moving on from version two
to version three the next launch, and Version three obviously
(03:09):
has a number of upgrades which they've learned from their
agile development engineering process of blowing up rockets in various
stages and figuring out what goes wrong, and the improvements
are made on the version three.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Booster that's coming.
Speaker 7 (03:23):
Okay, now, if anybody is in our listening audience and
doesn't know what Starship is, welcome. We'd like to welcome
into the show because obviously you have not been a
long time listener. But Starship is the launch vehicle that
Elon Musk is under contract with NASA to use as
a landing vehicle for NASA's Artemis program, the return to
(03:46):
the Moon, specifically during Artemis three. The current model has
what's called the Orion spacecraft launching to space aboard the
Space Launch System, which is NASA's heavy lift, and that
Orion capsule flies all the way to lunar orbit and
there in the orbit around the Lovely Moon, it will
(04:10):
dock up with a SpaceX Starship, and then Starship will
be the vehicle that takes that group of astronauts down
to the surface, lands safely and vertically, then allows those
astronauts to explore the Moon for a while. Then they
(04:31):
jump back on the starship vehicle from SpaceX, lift off
the lunar surface, fly back to lunar orbit where they
redock with their sports car like Orion capsule, and return.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Back to the Earth.
Speaker 7 (04:46):
Okay, so that's the plan, right, So what has to happen, Well,
we have to get very good at launching. We have
to get very good at launching SLS first, and so
SLS is going to schedule right now to launch its
second flight called Artemis two, and put astronauts around the
back side of the Moon sometime early next year, and
(05:10):
a NASA had originally announced somewhere between February and April.
We now know that they're leaning toward the front of
that launch window. They're trying to get this done as
soon as possible. There's some rumors that we're racing the
Chinese to be the first nation to put boots back
on the surface of the Moon, and so obviously with
the Trump administration in place, that's a very high priority,
(05:33):
and so they have tried to move up that timeline
but they can't walk on the Moon until Starship is
capable of actually flying to the Moon. So Starship has
to be able to get up there and be that
transfer vehicle to get down to the surface. So that's
why a Starship rocket launching on Monday of this week,
(05:57):
October thirteenth and having a near flawless flight out of
Star Based, Texas, which is a town that used to
be called Bokachika, but they actually changed the name of
the town.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
I just find this amazing.
Speaker 7 (06:11):
So Star Based, Texas, that rocket launched about six twenty
three pm Central daylight time. But who's counting to that
level of accuracy off of something they call launchpad A
at Starbase, and it went on roughly a one hour flight.
Here's what we know. Everything worked to near perfection. The rocket,
(06:36):
boosters aboard the main stage that that super heavy lift
vehicle all worked great. They had one engine that didn't
reignite during the boost back burn, but it did reignite
during the landing burn, and they were able to land
that vehicle, which is fantastic. So then the actual rocket,
(07:01):
the actual spacecraft itself, which is just called ship. If
you talk to people, If you talk to people at SpaceX.
They use words like ship and booster. We try to
round that out a little bit more here on the
podcast and say, that's the spaceship that they call starship,
except the whole rocket's called starship, and it's part ship
and part booster. So ship performed all of its maneuvers
(07:27):
very close to flawlessly, made its way toward the Indian Ocean,
and on the way it was able to jettison eight
large metal rectangles. You know, imagine those things from two
thousand and one Space Odyssey something like that. Yeah, we
don't know what those were made out of, but and
maybe it's not exactly Maybe I should have made that comparison. Anyway,
(07:49):
it's just big rectangles. Okay, So why did they just
launch a bunch of random big rectangles. Well, those random
big rectangles were to simulate the size and mass of
future our ship version three satellite deployment, right, And so
this was you're basically just launching dead payload weight to
(08:10):
approximate future payloads that you're going to launch on the vehicle.
But the deployment of those very large rectangles all went flawlessly,
and then that vehicle ship was able to reignite its
raptor engines and do a deorbit burn which approximates the
approximates coming back in and landing vertically, and so all
(08:31):
of that went exactly to plan and so and actually
the whole vehicle made it through its point of peak
heating as well as the greatest point of atmospheric pressure.
These are very important milestones in testing a rocket because
it means the structural integrity of your vehicle is sufficient
to complete all these tasks. Guess what success? Version two success? Right,
(08:55):
So all of these milestones were reached with the Version
two vehicle. How much better is version three gonna be? Well,
we're gonna find out on the very next starship launch
because they're graduating from version two to version three. That
sounds like a lot of really good things happening from
SpaceX on the way to helping NASA accomplish its Artemis
(09:18):
mission of landing human beings on the surface of the move.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
Now, I'm no rocket surgeon. I can just tell you
this that I you know, just not being an expert,
but I'm guessing that version three will be one better
than version two. That's just my I'm just putting this
out there because I think version two was one better
than version one. That's just been my experience in observing
(09:41):
all of this. Now it's been significantly better in that Hey,
we've had success. I mean I know that SpaceX would
say we had success with the others because this is
the way we do science, as we blow things up
and then go, oh, let's don't blow the next one up.
And even if it blows up again, they go, well,
it blow up for a different reason, and now we
know how to fix that. So it's just all part
(10:02):
of the way they science.
Speaker 7 (10:04):
Yeah, and you know, I'm no mathematician, but two is
at least double one, that's right, And on most occasions
three is considered thirty three point three percent better than two.
So you know, this is just simple math.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Check me if you want with your calculator on your phone.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
And for our gen Z and gen Alpha crowd, hang
in there. We'll eventually get to versions six'. SEVEN i
Think i'm using that. RIGHT i don't. Know i'm not
cool enough for all those six seven. Jokes but, anyway,
well this is all good because we are making that.
Progress AND i say we just we're observing, it and,
collectively it's nice to see these private companies AND nasa
(10:44):
working together to help make all this eventually become the
dream of you, know putting, feet actual boots on the.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Ground on other.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
In one, case the, moon in another Case. MARS i
mean that's what the other long term goal we're working on.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
For all of this.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
Stuff so this is. Exciting it's an exciting. Time we're
back in a moon, race, right.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
It, is it really.
Speaker 7 (11:07):
Is and, listen we joke on this, show but this
is a seriously important endeavor for The United states Of
america and The american space. Program and you know what
other segment Of american society is working quite as well AS.
SpaceX i, mean there probably are, Some i'm just not
(11:28):
thinking of, them but but they're not, many, RIGHT i,
mean we are living in an exciting, time, friends because
we're living in a time Where american engineers and rocket
scientists and you, know maybe kids that you knew growing
up that went often and got engineering, degrees and now
(11:50):
we're working AT SpaceX AND i know some of. Those
i've gotten an opportunity to meet some of those. Folks
they're making it. Happen and so to see all of
The falcon nine successful launches again and, again it's so
common THAT SpaceX has a Successful falcon nine launch from
(12:11):
the general area of The Kennedy Space, center that it's
not even worth news, Anymore like we don't even.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Cover it on the.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
Podcast it's, like oh, yeah AND SpaceX launched three more
rockets since we were with you last and we do
a weekly show and it's really about the, cadence, right
it's like every two to three. Days so that's become
so commonplace that it's no longer. Newsworthy that in itself is.
Amazing and then when you see the largest and most
(12:39):
powerful rocket in human history launch from what used to
be Called Boca, Chica texas now It's star Based texas
and complete all these milestone successfully on its way to
Helping americans return to the surface of The. Moon and,
yes we're going to take A canadian along with, us
because let's just face, it we Like. Canada we like
(13:02):
those people up. THERE i know there's been some spats
in the news, lately but we like The. Canadians let's
take them to the. Moon they're going to ride along with,
us all. Right so the whole point of this idea
is that we are succeeding in these endeavors As, americans
and it's an important thing both industrially and, yes through
(13:23):
our governmental, programs they're working. Together that partnership is. WORKING
i can't tell you something really that's. Working WHAT i
would say better than that, partnership because it's that partnership
seems to be working really.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Well for the, record my mother in law was born In.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
Canada so we Love canadians here on this, show no
doubt we Love.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Canadians who doesn't Love.
Speaker 8 (13:46):
CANADIANS i, mean think of the Band, RUSH i, Mean William. Shatner,
well my wife is technically like Half, canadian and my
kids are Core canadian by that, Logic so we're Big
canadian fans in this.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
House that's All i'm.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
SAYING i, MEAN i you, KNOW i love a good you,
know maple leaf now and.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
AGAIN i just watched The John candy, documentary by the,
way that's On prime and it is.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Fantastic one of the Great.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
Canadians Tim Horton's Tim, Horton, Well, TIMONS i, mean you,
know keep a box of tissues handy if you watch
The John candy, documentary even though you know how it,
ends just keeps some tissues.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Handy that's All i'm, saying.
Speaker 7 (14:24):
So, LOOK i did see that thing posted to that
that as my. ATTENTION i haven't seen it, yet BUT
i really do want it's really very very.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
Good all, Right let's now work our way to the
story that we kind of tease at the, beginning because
this is one of those news.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Things when it popped, up.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
It was, like, huh wait a, minute what because not
often do you see like, this especially when it comes
to like, okay because there's so many people that you would, think,
oh this person could head UP. Nasa there's a lot
of qualified people that could do, it but there's one
in particular that when we had this new presidency and
(14:59):
all these names start getting popped around and we Hear
Jared isagman's name to head UP, nasa the pick by
The trump, administration you, go.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Well this is like the perfect.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
One there's no one better coming in from the private,
side with lots of work on the private, side someone
who's been to space multiple, times someone who has big
picture ideas long. TERM i, mean this just seemed like
exactly that bridge that kind of comes like we just
talked about in the previous, story when you start talking
(15:31):
ABOUT nasa AND sls and you start talking ABOUT, SpaceX
all of these long term. Projects the guy Was Jared,
isagman and you AND i just, did, LIKE i think
we did a whole show about how Great jarediagman would
be to head UP, nasa and then all of a
sudden one day it was just like you could hear
the breakes just you, know and you could hear the truck,
(15:52):
skidding and we're, like wait a, minute he is no
longer in consideration to head UP. Nasa and then you, go,
oh it seemed like that was the guy that was
the perfect.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Guy, WELL.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
I don't know that you get many chances to go
back and get a do, over but it seems at
least his name is back in. Conversation SO i GUESS
i would ask you, this AND i don't know if
you know the answer to, This but is it because
Like i'm just an idiot for thinking there's lots of qualified,
people or is it because he was that good of
a Pick and now they're, going, well maybe we need
(16:27):
to revisit.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
This, well you, know there's not so many qualified people
out there that they're in my circle of, friends, Right
like none of them are having spuds and SuDS with.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Me if you know What i'm. Saying that's.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
Fair SO i, mean AND i know some really cool,
people But i'm just not sure we're that good of.
Friends so DON'T i don't think that there are a
vast number of people that have the kinds of resume
points That Jared isaacman.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Has let's just say it this.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
Way in all the history OF, nasa there have been
only two administrators OF, nasa only two who've actually been to,
space and That's Bill nelson And Richard, truly both. Astronauts
and of Course Bill nelson was a senator before he
was an, astronaut so he's like a senator that went
(17:17):
to space and became an. Astronaut Richard truly, was you,
know actually an astronaut. First, Right so and we make these,
distinctions we argue about who's an astronaut and who's. Not
and we Have Katy perry in the mix Of Bill
nelson also Also, canadian, right, yeah, TRUE i hadn't thought
about that yet Another canadian in today's. Conversation So Bill
(17:40):
nelson's not a not A Katie perry type almost went
to space person Like Katy. Perry, Like, OKAY i Know
i'm arguing a point from a previous. Show Katy perry
is some kind of an astronaut in my, Book, yeah,
no was brave enough to strap herself to A Blue
origin rocket and get lifted above The carmen. LINE i
(18:03):
Think Katie perry doesn't get enough. CREDIT i fall on that, side,
Okay But Bill nelson was a legit trained WITH nasa
astronaut who spent time aboard The Space shuttle right in.
Orbit so the whole point of that is only two of.
Them So Jared isaacman has already been to. Space he
(18:23):
was the first ever commercial astronaut to do a spacewalk IN.
Eva he's been to an altitude that is beyond the
altitude of most astronauts That i've ever been up to space.
Before so one of his two missions went really far
away from The, earth like not halfway to The, moon
but far a high orbit above The, earth which is
(18:47):
one of the necessary things to go to The.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Moon the point, is the.
Speaker 7 (18:51):
Dude has been, there, right he understands what it, takes
what kind of courage it, takes and what kind of
belief in the engineering system you have to have to
strap yourself into a seat and go to. Space so to,
me that's a really good resume point because he knows
(19:12):
he's going to be in charge of a program that's
going to put other people in that same, position and
keeping the engineering integrity very high and the safety standards
very high.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Would be a top.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
Priority in addition to, that he's also a pretty smart.
Dude he made himself a billionaire in the industries around,
aviation so there's that. Too and and, yeah he does
have this kind of relationship With Elon musk because the
vehicles that he flew onto space WERE SpaceX. Vehicles, NOW
(19:47):
i Think isacman himself kind of dialed, back like how
close are friends that he And elon really?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Were he's, like, well, LOOK i worked with the.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
GUY i know the, guy AND i think he might
have said something to the effect OF i don't think
we have spuds and SuDS together that.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
OFTEN i don't think he really said that along those.
Lines he's, like if.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
He amazing, coincidence he's not going.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
To be at my daughter's.
Speaker 7 (20:10):
Wedding but you, know it's like we know each other
right because we've worked. Together that's the.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Thing he's like a work friend Of Elon.
Speaker 7 (20:16):
Musk so SO i think That Jared eisaman himself has
a list of criteria on his resume that would make
him an OUTSTANDING nasa. Director and, Listen wes AND i
said these things on a previous show where we were
where we were considering his nomination the first, time, right
(20:36):
and so SO i just want to come back and
say this again. Now so here's what's been reported In.
Reuters there's a couple other outlets of the report of.
This reuters dot com had these.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Facts two.
Speaker 7 (20:48):
Things number, One isaac been met last week With President
trump to talk about a reconsideration for the post OF nasa.
Administrator number, two after having spoken with pros And, Trump
isaacman met with the ACTING nasa, administrator who Is Sean
duffy last week sometime as a, candidate an official candidate
(21:11):
for leading the space. Agency so says A nasa. Spokesperson
who did they say that To? Reuters check Out reuters
dot com for the. Story what are the Implications Wes
wes said. Something i'm going to go it's hardly ever
that We i'm gonna go ahead and go with never
WE i don't believe we've ever seen somebody who's been,
(21:34):
well what's the word DECONSIDERED i don't know from the consideration,
process like booted from. CONSIDERATION i don't think we've ever
seen anybody booted from consideration FOR nasa. Administrator that just
a few months later was, like, okay well let's talk
about that.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Again maybe we were wrong the first.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
Time and, yes things are unusual right.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Now, Friends DC's a weird.
Speaker 7 (21:59):
Place things are happening that don't usually, happen and now
is when we record the, show the place doesn't even.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Open that's, true AND i kind of it kind of made.
Well ONE i was kind of, thinking like in any
sort of like cabinet position or one of these appointed,
positions like it being very rare for them to get,
revisited not SPECIFICALLY, nasa but but, yes as the government
shut down right, NOW i would imagine that The Transportation
Secretary Sean duffy has a lot going on right, now
(22:29):
but he probably would happily UNLOAD nasa. Somewhere SO i
think there's, probably you, know there's probably some SOME i
guess encouragement on his part to find the right. Candidate
AND i don't, know maybe that's how you come across and,
go did we have anybody in this pile that was
really good. Before, yeah why did we not go with this?
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Guy, listen we.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
Can only imagine in these, conversations but it's. Comical it's
comical to.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Do, so and we like comedy here on our.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
Podcast so just Imagine Sean duffy walking Into President trump's
office one day and, Saying, Uh President, TRUMP i do
HAVE i do have one idea for a POSSIBLE nasa. Administrator,
yeah there's this fellow.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
By the name Of.
Speaker 7 (23:10):
Isaacman have you considered this not you've heard of?
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Him have you considered this? Guy he seems like he
might be a good.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Guy you.
Speaker 7 (23:20):
KNOW i was just recently looking over his resume and
it seems to check off many of the boxes that
we're looking, For, sir when we want to RECONSIDER i,
mean DO i say, RECONSIDERED i mean consider someone for
the post OF nasa. Administrator Perhaps Jared, isisagman who's actually
been to?
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Space is a is a good? Consideration what do you,
think Mister? President what do you?
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Think who's that?
Speaker 6 (23:41):
Guy?
Speaker 7 (23:41):
Again? Isagman? YEAH i don't, know if you say?
Speaker 1 (23:44):
So he talk to that?
Speaker 6 (23:46):
Guy does he have any good uh like a letter
of recommendation from anybody we, know anything like?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
That that maybe he's.
Speaker 7 (23:52):
Huge anybody vouched for in the aerospace, industry he's?
Speaker 6 (23:55):
Huge could anybody vouch for him at? ALL i think
there's a.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Guy would do we have any references on?
Speaker 6 (24:02):
FILE i have to correct myself BECAUSE i let us
down a path that was completely. Wrong Katie perry born
In Santa, Barbara. CALIFORNIA i blew that. One she just
Feels canadian because you, know she's Dating Justin. Trudeau SO
i think maybe that's maybe that's why in my BRAIN
i thought she's got to Be. Canadian, right there's a
(24:23):
Little canadian in there.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Somewhere there you.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
Go coming up after a quick, break we will talk
about an interesting payload that landed FROM nasa that landed In.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Texas we'll do that.
Speaker 9 (24:36):
Next oh, goodness it's my favorite joke of the.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
SHOW i think we you've ever. HAD i love. IT
i absolutely love.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
It All, right let's talk about THIS nasa payload that
just fell out of the sky on a ranch In West.
Speaker 7 (25:08):
Texas, well first of, all you live In West. Texas
let's just set the story up. Right imagine yourself living
In have you Visited West?
Speaker 6 (25:14):
TEXAS i have, not BUT i imagine they listened To Marty,
robbins a lot there.
Speaker 7 (25:18):
Probably, PROBABLY i, would you, know out in The odessa
area WHICH i, visited there's there are some lovely people
who live in The odessa, area AND i hope some
of them do listen to the.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
PODCAST i think that they're.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
Probably willing to admit that it would be a pretty
good place to Do mars. Simulations it's a really, flat dusty,
prairie just like kind of not too many people out,
there like On mars. Almost and so so here's the.
Thing imagine you're living there and suddenly you see something
floating down from the sky and it's not something. Small it's,
(25:53):
big and it's an. Object it's slowly drifting across the,
sky but it's doing so in a decent.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Manner it's coming.
Speaker 7 (26:01):
Down. Now this story has been reported in lots of.
Locations i'm going to be QUOTING Ap. News so according
TO Ap, news a lady by the name Of Ann
walter was looking outside her Rural West texas home when
she saw something large drifting across the sky in a
way that it was allowing it to descend into her
neighbor's wheat. Field and this this, thing upon further, inspection
(26:26):
once it got to the, GROUND i, guess and and
her neighbor went out and looked at. It it's a
big piece of scientific equipment and it has these stickers
all over, it and THEY'RE nasa. Stickers and this thing's
attached to a. Parachute it's about the size of an
suv and it's just sitting out in the dusty wheat
(26:47):
field Of West, texas Near Anne walter's. Home so she
did what anyone would do on something like, this called law.
Enforcement we're being. Invaded oh, no, wait THERE'S nasa. Sticker
so upon calling the local sheriff's, office she learned THAT
nasa was indeed looking for a missing piece of. Equipment,
(27:09):
hey we lost. Something if anybody out there reports this
coveany let us. Know. Okay, so according To nwalter, quote
it's crazy because when you're standing on the ground and
see something in the, air you don't realize how big it.
Is it was probably a thirty foot. Parachute it was.
(27:30):
Huge and what she found out is that later she
got a call from NASA's Columbia Scientific Balloon. Facility it's
not a space. Payload, REMEMBER nasa is The National aeronautics
And Space. Administration, well there's the aeronautics part in there.
Too they do things in the atmosphere like airplanes and
(27:52):
balloons and study the atmospheric. Effects, Right so this was
A nasa scientific payload designed to study the atmosphere of The.
Earth it probably flown something on the order of twenty
miles into space toward, space not into space toward, space
but then it came down In West. Texas it was
(28:13):
launched from THAT Nasa Columbia Scientific Balloon, facility which is
In Fort, Sumner New, mexico about one hundred and forty
miles west Of West. Texas and by the, way if
you go To West texas and then you go west
one hundred and forty, miles.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
You're really in The.
Speaker 7 (28:27):
West, Friends you're deep in The west by that, point
just so you'd know, Anyway so this is kind of
A western. Tail it's A western tail of, Cowboys West,
texas an adventure and a GIANT nasa payload that landed
in somebody's. Field yet they got a little bit out of.
Control they did lose track of. It they couldn't figure
out where it came. Down thank you To Anne walter
(28:47):
and her neighbor for reporting this MASSIVE nasa payload which
drifted into a farm In West.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
Texas fun, fact the Song El paso By Marty robbins
tells you the entire plot To Breaking. Bad, seriously he
just kind of modeled the whole show after the Song El,
paso which is kind of fascinating but, anyway.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
More made of. Stars right after, this.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
All, right let's talk About, aurora because we've been following
some solar activity and here we. Go looks like we
could be seeing Some. Aurora maybe not this far, south
but at least parts of THE.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
Us regular listeners will know THAT i absolutely love talking
About aurora and just solar phenomenon in. General But i'm
still trying to wrap my head About West, Texas El
paso And Breaking. Bad i'm gonna have to go listen
to that song again and just like like relive the
plot of of the.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
Series just know That, fellina the girl is you, know blue,
meth just just fill, in like replace. That and then
he even named the finale of the Show, fellina which
of course you rearrange the letters to spell finale and.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
It's, it.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Dude it is so amazing.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
When you listen to it and you go hang on
wait a, minute, anyway.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
To all that was trying to actually listen to this.
Podcast i'm sorry we got interrupted, here but that thought
has just blown my.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Mind, yeah, yeah it's pretty pretty darn.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
Good at one point in my, Life i've worked in
A west The western theme park AND i heard that
song approximately eighteen times a, week and so Now i'm
at to just reconsider all those.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Lyrics thank You wes for rocking my. WORLD i appreciate.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
It it's JUST i didn't even catch.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
It LIKE i, MEAN i remember the name of the,
show the finale Being fellina going, Huh and then there's
even a point in the show where he's listening to
the song and you, go wait a, minute this guy
laid it all out for us and.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Everything, anyway that was so.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
Good i'm sure that's like people are out there on
the area and, going, yeah you haven't heard that one,
before but APPARENTLY i. Haven't so that's news to, me
even though it's probably not news in a news.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Sense, hey you know what is news this very?
Speaker 7 (31:11):
Night as we're recording this Podcast, tonight all you listeners
who have the bell set and get an immediate notification
tonight be watching For aurora phenomenon across the lower forty
eight because The sun has been belching out some coronal
mass ejections over the last few, days and they're moving
in such a way that they're gonna. Combine some fast
(31:34):
ones came out after some slow, ones and as they
move from The sun to The, earth they're all going to.
Combine the fast ones catching up with the preview preceding slow.
Ones they're all going to combine right here at The
earth and possibly trigger A g two class geomagnetic storm
to night as they. Arrive, so particularly listeners in the
northern tier Of. States But, wes you AND i have
(31:56):
heard that. Before we, Have, yes we've heard it before
when they, said, oh, hey northern Interier, states be. Watching
but then down here in The south where you AND i,
live we've we've seen some northern lights in the last eighteen, months,
RIGHT i, mean we've seen some, stuff and so so
we like to tell all of our listeners just keep
an eye on. Things, now how do you keep an
(32:17):
eye on? Things, well obviously you can just run outside
in some kind of LIKE ocd, man or just continue
to look at the sky throughout the early, evening or
you can sign up for text messages alerts from spaceweather
dot com And i'm not advertising for. Them i'm just
saying that service is. Available or there's another website called
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(32:43):
you can just look at the numbers for yourself and
if those numbers get into the favorable, category.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Which by the, way all that's explained on the.
Speaker 7 (32:51):
Website if they get into the favorable, category then you
can run outside in AN ocd manner and look up
at the sky and perhaps catch northern lights in your. Neighborhood,
friends this is fun for the entire. Family make sure
you share it with your children and the neighbors and
anybody who doesn't run away from you when you begin
talking about these things.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Like they do.
Speaker 7 (33:10):
Me but, anyway just enjoy a possible geomagnetic storm tonight
with some potential beautiful northern lights appearing over the.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Lower forty eight in the next twenty four.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
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