September 11, 2025 • 31 mins
The Perseverance rover has given some evidence of what could be a sign of a past life on Mars, but it's too early to confirm. There's a large hole in the Sun's atmosphere and there's a chance it could impact our skies on Earth. SpaceX had a successful launch of Starship 10 and prepares for 11's launch.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Warning. The following podcast contains an entertaining look at astronomy, physics,
and space news throughout the known universe. Listeners have been
known to learn about astronomical phenomenon, the scientific method, and
expanded vocabulary to include terms like quasar, asterism and uranus. Listen,
that's your own risk.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
When made of stars, made them stars, made sizes. When
made of stars, you could be from high they would
New Mexicomus, where all stars.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
When we are made of stars.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
I'm Wes Carol, joined by my good friend doctor Sean
Cruising from Columbus State University's Coca Cola Space Science Center.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Hey Sean, good morning.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
We's good to be with you today.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Good to be here with my.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Surgically repaired neck and they've done some work around my throat.
So this is our first show recording since that. And
I'm just mentioning it because if I sound a little
bit off, that's what's going on with it. Last week's
show we had recorded ahead of time because it was
surgery day on Thursday, so we'd worked ahead just a
(01:28):
little bit on that, but fee feeling better. The surgery
involved navigating through my throat through all of the vertical
parts in there and agitating things a little bit. So
I may have a little bit of a rasp to
my voice or may not quite sound one hundred percent,
but I can say this with certainty. I have been
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looking forward to getting back into a mat of stars,
because this is one of my favorite parts of the week,
is when we get to talk about space stuff and
we start this week with a really cool star and
I always know we're going to have a good show
whenever I get a text from you that has something
really cool in it. Uh, So let's just I guess
jump into this space dot com had the story that
(02:10):
you sent me, and uh has Perseverance the rover found
evidence of past life on Mars.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
What is going on on Mars?
Speaker 5 (02:21):
I mean, I don't mean to tie this back to
your surgical procedure, but I did notice that they also
mounted that red laser right next to your right eye,
just like look que to suborg, and so that's that's
pretty impressive. I would say that the same thing is
true for the Perseverance Rover. So Perseverance rover has, you know,
a red laser mounted to its right eye, very much
like look you to Suborg, and that allows it to
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zap rock faces and do chemical analysis. And I don't
know if you can do that now with your new
surgical modifications, but it would be very impressive to talk
about on a future future show if you do that.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Yeah, if I can work that out, I'll figure figure
out how to in some of those enhanced abilities. The
very least, I'm gonna be three quarters of an inch taller,
that's all I got for certain.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
When when you say least, I mean that that might
be most right. I mean that's like, that's well, who
doesn't want to be three quarters of an inch taller? Right?
Speaker 4 (03:10):
One of the boys said to me, He's like, so
you're you're you're gonna be uh, you know, taller than
you were before. And I was like, no, I think
I'm just getting back that three quarters of an inch
that I've lost because of the issues with my spine.
So I'll just be happy to get back where I
was before. I mean, they want to add a few inches,
you know, go for it, but I'll be happy just
to get back where I started.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
I mean, sometimes life just repossesses three quarters of an
inch ofw It just happens. How does this happen?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
That's very true. Well, I'm feeling it.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
It's gravity.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
It's literally the spacers in in my in my spine
are stretching me out, and I'm feeling it with my
neck and my shoulders and all of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
But uh, anyway, we.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Got we got this cool story on Mars, and I
you know, when you hear it, you go, Okay, evidence
of past life on Mars.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
This is what we've been looking for.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
It is, in fact, it's why we sent a Perseverance
rover to Mars basically, right. I mean, it's not that
Mars wouldn't just be a cool place otherwise, but the
location on Mars that we sent the Perseverance Rover, one
of the Bars exploration rovers up there. The place is
jez Aow Crater, and jez a Row Crater, if it
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doesn't ring a bell to you, used to be a
lake on Mars.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Now.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
This is different than the Cement pond from the Beverly Hillbillies.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Right. That was Jethro's Crater, wasn't it.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Yeah, that was Jethrow's crater and it had an artificial
origination story. The jezi Row Crater up there just in
West Hollywood, Beverly Hills, that region of Mars. Anyway, the
jezi Row Crater up there is actually an impact basin
that occurred prior to Mars's wet period, which means that
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when Mars did have a ap period in its history
where water was a abundant on the surface of Mars.
We know that that's true from all manner of geological evidence.
This impact basin would have filled up with that water
and have been a lake for a very long time.
And so that's why it makes it such an interesting
place to go look for signs of possible life in
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the geological past on Mars. That's the Perseverance Rover's job
explored Jesio Crater look for past evidence of life as
well as any kind of other geology that can tell
us about the past history of the Red planet. So
all of that is true. Perseverance has been up there
since twenty twenty one. It's been exploring that area and
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it's exploring a really interesting area. Right now. It's found
something called, well it's been nicknamed che Java Falls. Che
Java Falls is actually a waterfall in the Grand Canyon
here on Earth, but they nicknamed this rock formation che
Yava Falls on Mars. I think just because it sounded cool.
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So the point though, is that che Java Falls as
a rock formation, it has some really promising evidence of
ancient life on the Red planet. Now, I think you
and I about twelve to fourteen months ago talked about
this same rock face, but at that time it was
just pretty pictures, right, Oh, hey, look we've seen these pictures.
(06:22):
Aren't they interesting? They could be the kinds of things
that the Earth geologists find as indications of past geological
process has taking place. Won't that be interesting when they
really do the analysis? Okay, well, so what we're doing
today in a story that just came out a couple
of days ago, is we're talking about the actual analysis.
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So now they have done further analysis on the imaging
up there. They've actually published I say they. It's researchers
from the Perseverance Rover at JPL have published research in
the journal Nature regarding this che Yava Falls rock formation
and the apparent biosignatures that are visible in that rock layer.
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They call these things leopard spots and poppy seeds. So
if you think about this, think about looking at like
a highway cut or something like that, a rock face
that's been dug into and you can see the stratified
layers of earth. You know in your geological experience. Here
there are various places. Maybe it's a stream that cut
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through or a river that cut through, and it's left
a rock face exposed in the manner of being dug down,
and you have a vertical face of rock where you
can see geological layers. Well, that's similar to this place
on Jesuro Crater on Mars. And in that vertical rock
face they find these leopard spots and poppy seeds, which
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are actually small unusual markings in that rock face that
when geologists find that signature on Earth, they are often
linked to biological processes. There is a biological processing or
a bioprocessing of minerals that can take place where microorganisms
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are basically sucking the nutrients out of the soil and
they're pooping out some organic compounds, and then those organic
compounds get deposited in the rock layers and they turn
into these hard a little bit more difficult to erode
rock formations that get nicknamed leopard spots and poppy seeds.
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So there it is. It's bug poop. It's one way
to think about it anyway.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
So there it is, yeah, and would be an indicator
obviously of something living there.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Yes, so for sure on Earth these markers can be
produced by microbes. They are biosignatures on Earth. However, Earth
geologists have also found instances where they were not produced
by biological processes. Said yeah, yeah, So even though this
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is a who it's a potential sign of life on Mars,
maybe maybe possibly the best sign yet of evidence of
past life on Mars. It still has a giant butt
monkey attached to it to say, but it can also
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be produced by non biological processes. So we have to
keep that firmly in mind as we look at headlines
that are out there saying scientists have found evidence of
life on Mars. I've seen them in preparation for this
podcast today, friends, And that's that's one of the reasons
why we move this story to the top, to the
top of the stack, because we might want to say, well,
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you might be seeing it out there on Look, if
you're getting your if you're getting your news from social media,
always run a check, right, Always do a little bit
more digging on your own at some more reliable news sources.
Even some of those reliable news sources are just trying
to get you to click their site. Shame on them.
But that's click journalism in twenty twenty five. Okay, but
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always be diligent about trying to find out all of
the facts, because if you're running out there posting they
found life on Mars on your favorite social media platform,
just don't you shouldn't do that. Okay, So not so fast,
not so fast, not so fast. Okay. So even though
this may be the most intriguing possible biosignature on Mars,
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yet we just have to exercise a little bit of caution.
Joel Hurwitz from Stonybrook University, who is the lead author
on the new study, says this, when we see features
like this in sediment on Earth, these minerals are often
the byproduct of microbialabolisms that are consuming organic matter. So
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notice that doctor Horowitz did not say these minerals are
always the byproduct of microbial metabolisms, just that they are
often the byproduct of microbial metabolisms, making them a reliable
but not infallible biosignature. Right, So, just a little caution
out there. It's really cool, it's really intriguing, but this
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does show us why we really do need some kind
of a sample return mission. There's only so much we
can tell with imaging. We need to get these samples
in the lab, and we need scientists to actually be
able to do deeper chemical and other kinds of destructive
analysis on these on these rock samples, so that we
can really see what's going on and verify whether past
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life existed on Mars. So that's a really cool story.
And I don't want to I don't want to be
a wet blanket. I will say that doctor Tony Phillips,
who's one of my favorite He's one of my favorite
news authors in the space world. He's also the main
author of spaceweather dot com, so we we refer to
his journalism a lot.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
He was very very cautious about this story. He's like, hey,
just remember this is a we don't know story. This
is not a definitely confirmed story. So anyway, it's always
it's always worthwhile to uh check those reliable sources and
make sure you understand the entire scope of the story.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Speaking of spaceweather dot com, we'll head over there for
this next story. With a gigantic hole opening up in
the Sun's atmosphere, and spewing solar wind.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Right at us. What's going on there?
Speaker 5 (12:39):
That's exactly what's happening.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
It's a marvel movie. What are we doing.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
There's a little black chasm on the sun today. Apparently
it's not it's not it's not a spot. It's a
full on chasm. It's a giant Well, okay, so the
Sun has this thing called the corona. We don't really
think of the Sun having an atmosphere because we say, well,
isn't it all gas? Yeah, it is gas and plasma
it is. But really we kind of define a surface
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for the Sun, and that surface is not something you
could stand on. But it's called the photosphere. It's the
it's the it's the diameter at which light escapes. Right.
So when you don't look at the sun, by the way,
but I know you've glanced up through the clouds and
seen the disc of the Sun. I know you've done that,
even though we caution you not to look at the sun.
So you've seen a round sun before, right when you
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see it sitting at the beach. It's a round sun
that gets kind of squashed by atmospheric refraction effects. But anyway,
it's got a circular surface to it. Well, that's the photosphere,
but that's not where the Sun ends. The Sun has
gases heavily influenced by the Sun's magnetic field that hang
above that solar disk, and the corona is one of those.
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The corona is a really hot area of gases suspended
over the surface, the visible surface of the photosphere of
the Sun. Okay, so sometime, well most of the time,
the corona is getting in the way a very high
speed gas is trying to escape the Sun. We call
that the high speed solar wind or the fast solar windstream.
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So sometimes though, a giant hole will open up in
that hovering gas above the surface called the corona, and
then there's nothing to slow the solar windstream down, and
you just get a beam of magnetically charged particle radiation
traveling at high speed with no buffer, that just streams
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out of the Sun off its surface, through the hole
in the corona and maybe directly at your planet, the
one you live on, the Earth. Oh and by the way,
that's exactly what's happening right now. So there's a three
hundred thousand kilometer wide butterfly shaped gap on the Sun today.
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It's a giant coronal hole. It's a allowing the gases
to escape at a very high speed in the direction
of the Earth. So yeah, our friends at spaceweather dot com,
doctor Tony Phillips and the crew say, hey, this is interesting.
You might want to be on the lookout for geosolar activity,
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or we call it a geomagnetic storm. You might want
to be watching out for geomagnetic storms within the next
couple of days. So from now to say, oh, September fourteenth,
when the bulk of this wave is scheduled to arrive,
that could trigger a G one to G two class
geomagnetic storm that's on its own. There's something else that's
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taking place, that's an interaction between the Sun and the
Earth and their relative magnetic fields. It's called the Russell
McFerrin effect. Don't worry, be happy. It's not Bobby McFerrin.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I went there in my head. Get out of my head, Sean.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
It's his little brother, Russell, two scientists, Russell and McFerrin.
The Russell mcfaar in effect links geomagnetic storms to a
combination of the effects of the Sun and Earth's geomagnetic
fields that occur around the equinoxes, and that equinox happens
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here in September. It's the autumnal equinox. It's the halfway
point between summer and winter that occurs on or around
September twenty first. Therefore, we're near the equinox. Therefore, the
Earth is already subject to the r the Russell mcfarri
in effect, and also the giant solar windstream from a
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chasm in the Sun's corona. Those two effects will add
to one another, so we may have unexpectedly strong geomagnetic
storms over the next three days or so. I would
say stay tuned. And when I say stay tuned, I
mean to this podcast. But you know you should just
do that every week, just because you should. You'll miss
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out on things if you don't have Fomo on space
and tune into Native Stars every week. But what I
mean for this particular story, stay tuned means checkspaceweather dot
com on an obsessive hourly basis over the next three days,
so that you can be informed whether or not the
Earth is experiencing a strong enough geomagnetic storm that you
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might see northern light phenomenon in your area.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
And that's the thing that upsets people the most. They go,
why didn't you tell us? Why didn't you tell us?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
And it's like, we did. You just didn't hear it
until it was too late. That's not on us.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Wes and I have the common shared experience of being
a host of a space podcast and telling people that
there were very likely going to be solar storms in
twenty twenty four, both on May the tenth and October
the tenth, which turned out to be true. By the way,
both times, and again, it's not because we're clairvoyant souit geniuses.
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It's because we read spaceweather dot com obsessively and we
know when these storms are likely because of the great
work done at spaceweather dot com. So we told people
on the podcast both times, Hey, you might want to
be watching out. Could be northern lights, could be northern
lights pretty far south, maybe even here in Georgia where
we are.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Well, both of those northern.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Light phenomenon went south of the United States of America,
right so, so all the way down into Central Mexico,
Puerto Rico, places like that. Anyway, So we're telling you
again here it is maybe maybe not. We never know
for sure. Scientists always have two hands on the one hand,
but on the other hand, there is one of those
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two handed moments. But you don't want to miss out,
So go take a peek at the skies this weekend
and watch for the Russell McFerrin effect combined with a
giant hole in the Sun's corona.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Coming up.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
After a quick break, we'll talk about Starship ten and eleven.
We'll do that now, all.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Right, we got to go back a little bit to
talk about.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Starship ten and then uh, SpaceX is prepping for Starship eleven.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
I mean, anytime we get to talk about massive rockets
launching to space, especially.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
When there's a nice and successful launch, that's also nice
as well.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
I mean, we don't mind the ones that blow up
because they're kind of fun too, but we don't want
to We don't want people hurt, but we don't care
if they blow up over the ocean. It's just kind
of some extra fireworks to the day. And it's just
sort of the way that SpaceX does their engineering. But hey, friends,
if you've been paying attention to space news, well, Wes
and I were, you know, on a minor sabbatical over
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the holiday weekend and things there, you might have noticed
that SpaceX Starship, the largest most powerful rocket ever built
by humanity, had a near flawless test on August the
twenty sixth. And if you have not seen that, but
you're a space enthusiast, well, first I'm gonna question your
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space enthusiasm. I need to check your card right there.
But okay, let's say you missed it and you're just
kind of a mildly interested space fan, I would tell
you this SpaceX was able to deliver not only a
near flawless mission with the largest and most powerful rocket
ever built, they also delivered the most ridiculous high definition
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video of various aspects of this launch that I personally
have ever seen.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
It was absolutely incredible.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
It was phenomenal, and yes, powered by powered by starlink
as it was, it was powered by their own internet
provider that they actually own, so yeah, their internet service
provider provided beautifully streamed video in ultra high definition of
many aspects of the launch of this vehicle, including a
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great shot of when Starship itself was going from daylight
to dark as it was going around the curvature of
the Earth and you could see the sunset line through
the clouds on planet Earth. Absolutely spectacular. If you missed it,
what were you thinking?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Go check it out.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
It's on YouTube, Go look it up. And then they
had a absolutely incredible high definition camera mounted on a
buoy somewhere out in the Indian Ocean when the Starship
vehicle itself came back down, and they got such crisp, clear,
ultra high definition video of the controlled re entry of
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the Starship vehicle down into the ocean that many people
just thought it was ai. They just said, oh no,
this can't possibly be real. This how did they get
this sharp video?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
How?
Speaker 5 (22:07):
And friends, in fairness, I will tell you it's twenty
twenty five. You should ask this question every time you
see video or photographs is it real? I get it,
I get it, But this one was real. Friends. They
actually captured the video of starship coming down and landing
in the ocean in a controlled manner, and obviously it
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then sunk into the water and exploder. But anyway, so
they meant to do that, meant to do that, We
meant to do that anyway, So they did mean to
do that. So the point is incredible, Mission super Heavy
Booster had a splash down. They had no intention of
trying to catch it in the giant chopsticks. This time
they knew they were going to splash it down in
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the ocean, so it had a controlled splash down. And
then the vehicle itself, the Starship vehicle, deployed a bunch
of dummy Starlink satellites just as a test. That deployment
went fine. They were able to fulfill that key mission objective.
And then both the again both the heavy booster and
Starship eleven Starship ten rather came down and had successful
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landings in the water. All of this leading up to
Starship eleven, the next launch of this massive rocket system.
You see, NASA is themselves highly invested in this process
being successful because if you know anything about the Space
Launch System and the Artemis program and the Orion space capsule.
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Right now, Starship the big rocket, not just the big rocket,
but the big spacecraft being produced by SpaceX, is NASA's
ride down from lunar orbit to the lunar surface. So
they want to They were watching with no idle curiosity
making sure that this vehicle is ready to go when
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astronauts are going to go back to the Moon to
put footprints on the Moon again. By twenty twenty eight,
So NASA has a keen interest in that, so great
great success on August twenty sixth, Starship ten. They are
now everybody kind of now anticipating the next launch of Starship,
which would be Starship eleven. Starship eleven had a successful
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test firing down there in Bokachka, Texas, just a couple
of days ago, as we're recording the podcast today, September
the ninth, twenty twenty five, and all of that is
in preparation for the upcoming Starship eleven launch again, further
testing and proving concepts, further proving the capability of the vehicle,
getting ready for it to become the official lunar lander
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for the Artemis program for NASA.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
All Right, you and are big fans of the Dart mission,
where we've been fascinated with this since the beginning. It's
one of those things that I think you kind of
imagine I think as a kid for me sitting in
science class when they go, hey, an asteroid coul hit
the Earth, and you go, we on, we just knock
it off course, and all of a sudden that became
a reality a few years ago, and you and I
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have been fascinated with all of that ever since, and
one of the things that inevitably comes up, and it
was a concern then and continues to be a concern,
maybe not so much now thanks to this story. But
what if you hit in the wrong place? Could it
become more of a danger if an asteroid was coming
for us, and apparently it could be, but if you
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know where to hit it, then that won't necessarily be
a problem with it.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Yeah, So it's a really interesting point that if an
asteroid gets either too close to the Earth or we
don't understand its dynamics, in other words, the way it's spinning,
the way it's put together, all of those kinds of things,
that if we hit this asteroid with a spacecraft trying
to divert it or nudget out of the way so
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it doesn't hit the Earth, but we hit it wrong,
that it could have negative consequences. Now these are things
we knew already. However, a new analysis provided by the
data from the Dark Mission. New analysis has indicated that
we can't even hit the asteroid in the wrong spot
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because even if we nudge it away from the Earth.
Some theoretical gravitational studies have been done to say, well,
there are gravitational structures that exist around the planet Earth
and with the combined gravities of other bodies like the Sun,
that can drive objects, even if we push them away,
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drive them back into gravitational interaction with the Earth and
back down to collide with the Earth. And these things
have been termed gravitational key holes. So we don't want
to nudge an asteroid that actually might miss the Earth.
We just think that there's a high probability that it
will impact. We don't want to nudge it into a
gravitational keyhole because then we've get a inteed that it
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will impact the Earth, just at a later date. Right,
So there's the trick. Okay. So new studies from the
data from Dart have been done by a group of
scientists out of Jet Propotional Laboratory but also working with
the University of Illinois at Urbana Champagne, and they've tested
all manner of trajectories of asteroids that we nudge away
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from the Earth using computer simulations and they say, yes, indeed,
you have to hit these rocks at just the right spot,
and that right spot has to do with the shape
of the asteroid, with its trajectory, its speed, its distance
from the Earth. But we can we can lay out
a grid of good impact spots and bad impact spots
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over the surface of this asteroid based on this new
research out of Urbana Champaigne that provides probability maps for
where we do want to and don't want to impact
an incoming asteroid so that we don't so we don't
alter its trajectory into one of these gravitational key holes
where it's definitely going to fall back on the Earth
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in the future, we want to be able to push
it away where it misses the gravitational key holes and
drifts back out into space. So it's amazing to know
that our predictive powers, using computer simulations and just our
understanding of the dynamics between motion of objects, that the
gravitational fields can provide us with a map of where
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exactly to punch an asteroid in the eye when it's
heading in for our Earth for a close pass in
just the right batter that we don't just nudge it
out of the way temporarily, but we nudge it out
of the way permanently, missing these gravitational key holes and
saving the Earth, my friend, because that's what it's all about.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
All about saving the earth. All right, let's talk about
Music under the Dome. We have another Music under the
Dome coming up on October the seventh. As we are
in the season, I love the fall. There's so many
reasons I love the fall. My football analogies all make
sense again, you know, feeling like I can, I can,
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I can.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Have new ones. You know, things happen, you know, talking
about the dark spacecraft. I think we use some NFL
analogies in the past, which which we're fine, but you know,
we won't bring those up today. But you know, I
love the changing of the seasons because you know, then
people it gets cold and people want to bake. You know,
so baking is awesome. Cookies, you know, pumpkin spice is
okay again, you can These are all reasons, right. But
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Music out of the Dome friends, Musica of the Dome
is a concert series that happens here at Clumbus State
University's Coca Cola Space Science Center. And I can practically
smell the pumpkin spice right now because I know our
first Music under the Dome concert is coming up October
the seventh. I believe there are a few tickets left
for the for that com These concerts are so popular
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that they do sell out quickly. Check our website you
might still be able to pick up tickets for this
concert and come and see us when the Schwob School
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here at the Columbus State University and they come into
our Omnosphere Theater and perform inside the planetarium to the
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beautiful sites of original space.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Art up on the dome this month.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
It is our own Lance Tankersley, director of the Atmosphere
Theater here at Space Science Center, who's producing all of
the original graphics for this show. It's going to be fun,
it's going to be spectacular. Check out ou our website
www dot CCSSC dot org for information on this concert,
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Warning. The following podcast contains an entertaining look at astronomy, physics,
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known to learn about astronomical phenomenon, the scientific method, and
expanded vocabulary to include terms like quasar, asterism and uranus. Listen,
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
When made of stars, made them stars, made sizes. When
made of stars, you could be from high they would
New Mexicomus, where all stars.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
When we are made of stars.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
I'm Wes Carol, joined by my good friend doctor Sean
Cruising from Columbus State University's Coca Cola Space Science Center.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Hey Sean, good morning.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
We's good to be with you today.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Good to be here with my.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Surgically repaired neck and they've done some work around my throat.
So this is our first show recording since that. And
I'm just mentioning it because if I sound a little
bit off, that's what's going on with it. Last week's
show we had recorded ahead of time because it was
surgery day on Thursday, so we'd worked ahead just a
(01:28):
little bit on that, but fee feeling better. The surgery
involved navigating through my throat through all of the vertical
parts in there and agitating things a little bit. So
I may have a little bit of a rasp to
my voice or may not quite sound one hundred percent,
but I can say this with certainty. I have been
(01:49):
looking forward to getting back into a mat of stars,
because this is one of my favorite parts of the week,
is when we get to talk about space stuff and
we start this week with a really cool star and
I always know we're going to have a good show
whenever I get a text from you that has something
really cool in it. Uh, So let's just I guess
jump into this space dot com had the story that
(02:10):
you sent me, and uh has Perseverance the rover found
evidence of past life on Mars.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
What is going on on Mars?
Speaker 5 (02:21):
I mean, I don't mean to tie this back to
your surgical procedure, but I did notice that they also
mounted that red laser right next to your right eye,
just like look que to suborg, and so that's that's
pretty impressive. I would say that the same thing is
true for the Perseverance Rover. So Perseverance rover has, you know,
a red laser mounted to its right eye, very much
like look you to Suborg, and that allows it to
(02:41):
zap rock faces and do chemical analysis. And I don't
know if you can do that now with your new
surgical modifications, but it would be very impressive to talk
about on a future future show if you do that.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Yeah, if I can work that out, I'll figure figure
out how to in some of those enhanced abilities. The
very least, I'm gonna be three quarters of an inch taller,
that's all I got for certain.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
When when you say least, I mean that that might
be most right. I mean that's like, that's well, who
doesn't want to be three quarters of an inch taller? Right?
Speaker 4 (03:10):
One of the boys said to me, He's like, so
you're you're you're gonna be uh, you know, taller than
you were before. And I was like, no, I think
I'm just getting back that three quarters of an inch
that I've lost because of the issues with my spine.
So I'll just be happy to get back where I
was before. I mean, they want to add a few inches,
you know, go for it, but I'll be happy just
to get back where I started.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
I mean, sometimes life just repossesses three quarters of an
inch ofw It just happens. How does this happen?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
That's very true. Well, I'm feeling it.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
It's gravity.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
It's literally the spacers in in my in my spine
are stretching me out, and I'm feeling it with my
neck and my shoulders and all of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
But uh, anyway, we.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Got we got this cool story on Mars, and I
you know, when you hear it, you go, Okay, evidence
of past life on Mars.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
This is what we've been looking for.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
It is, in fact, it's why we sent a Perseverance
rover to Mars basically, right. I mean, it's not that
Mars wouldn't just be a cool place otherwise, but the
location on Mars that we sent the Perseverance Rover, one
of the Bars exploration rovers up there. The place is
jez Aow Crater, and jez a Row Crater, if it
(04:21):
doesn't ring a bell to you, used to be a
lake on Mars.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Now.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
This is different than the Cement pond from the Beverly Hillbillies.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Right. That was Jethro's Crater, wasn't it.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Yeah, that was Jethrow's crater and it had an artificial
origination story. The jezi Row Crater up there just in
West Hollywood, Beverly Hills, that region of Mars. Anyway, the
jezi Row Crater up there is actually an impact basin
that occurred prior to Mars's wet period, which means that
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when Mars did have a ap period in its history
where water was a abundant on the surface of Mars.
We know that that's true from all manner of geological evidence.
This impact basin would have filled up with that water
and have been a lake for a very long time.
And so that's why it makes it such an interesting
place to go look for signs of possible life in
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the geological past on Mars. That's the Perseverance Rover's job
explored Jesio Crater look for past evidence of life as
well as any kind of other geology that can tell
us about the past history of the Red planet. So
all of that is true. Perseverance has been up there
since twenty twenty one. It's been exploring that area and
(05:40):
it's exploring a really interesting area. Right now. It's found
something called, well it's been nicknamed che Java Falls. Che
Java Falls is actually a waterfall in the Grand Canyon
here on Earth, but they nicknamed this rock formation che
Yava Falls on Mars. I think just because it sounded cool.
(06:00):
So the point though, is that che Java Falls as
a rock formation, it has some really promising evidence of
ancient life on the Red planet. Now, I think you
and I about twelve to fourteen months ago talked about
this same rock face, but at that time it was
just pretty pictures, right, Oh, hey, look we've seen these pictures.
(06:22):
Aren't they interesting? They could be the kinds of things
that the Earth geologists find as indications of past geological
process has taking place. Won't that be interesting when they
really do the analysis? Okay, well, so what we're doing
today in a story that just came out a couple
of days ago, is we're talking about the actual analysis.
(06:44):
So now they have done further analysis on the imaging
up there. They've actually published I say they. It's researchers
from the Perseverance Rover at JPL have published research in
the journal Nature regarding this che Yava Falls rock formation
and the apparent biosignatures that are visible in that rock layer.
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They call these things leopard spots and poppy seeds. So
if you think about this, think about looking at like
a highway cut or something like that, a rock face
that's been dug into and you can see the stratified
layers of earth. You know in your geological experience. Here
there are various places. Maybe it's a stream that cut
(07:31):
through or a river that cut through, and it's left
a rock face exposed in the manner of being dug down,
and you have a vertical face of rock where you
can see geological layers. Well, that's similar to this place
on Jesuro Crater on Mars. And in that vertical rock
face they find these leopard spots and poppy seeds, which
(07:52):
are actually small unusual markings in that rock face that
when geologists find that signature on Earth, they are often
linked to biological processes. There is a biological processing or
a bioprocessing of minerals that can take place where microorganisms
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are basically sucking the nutrients out of the soil and
they're pooping out some organic compounds, and then those organic
compounds get deposited in the rock layers and they turn
into these hard a little bit more difficult to erode
rock formations that get nicknamed leopard spots and poppy seeds.
(08:36):
So there it is. It's bug poop. It's one way
to think about it anyway.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
So there it is, yeah, and would be an indicator
obviously of something living there.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Yes, so for sure on Earth these markers can be
produced by microbes. They are biosignatures on Earth. However, Earth
geologists have also found instances where they were not produced
by biological processes. Said yeah, yeah, So even though this
(09:09):
is a who it's a potential sign of life on Mars,
maybe maybe possibly the best sign yet of evidence of
past life on Mars. It still has a giant butt
monkey attached to it to say, but it can also
(09:32):
be produced by non biological processes. So we have to
keep that firmly in mind as we look at headlines
that are out there saying scientists have found evidence of
life on Mars. I've seen them in preparation for this
podcast today, friends, And that's that's one of the reasons
why we move this story to the top, to the
top of the stack, because we might want to say, well,
(09:54):
you might be seeing it out there on Look, if
you're getting your if you're getting your news from social media,
always run a check, right, Always do a little bit
more digging on your own at some more reliable news sources.
Even some of those reliable news sources are just trying
to get you to click their site. Shame on them.
But that's click journalism in twenty twenty five. Okay, but
(10:16):
always be diligent about trying to find out all of
the facts, because if you're running out there posting they
found life on Mars on your favorite social media platform,
just don't you shouldn't do that. Okay, So not so fast,
not so fast, not so fast. Okay. So even though
this may be the most intriguing possible biosignature on Mars,
(10:40):
yet we just have to exercise a little bit of caution.
Joel Hurwitz from Stonybrook University, who is the lead author
on the new study, says this, when we see features
like this in sediment on Earth, these minerals are often
the byproduct of microbialabolisms that are consuming organic matter. So
(11:05):
notice that doctor Horowitz did not say these minerals are
always the byproduct of microbial metabolisms, just that they are
often the byproduct of microbial metabolisms, making them a reliable
but not infallible biosignature. Right, So, just a little caution
out there. It's really cool, it's really intriguing, but this
(11:28):
does show us why we really do need some kind
of a sample return mission. There's only so much we
can tell with imaging. We need to get these samples
in the lab, and we need scientists to actually be
able to do deeper chemical and other kinds of destructive
analysis on these on these rock samples, so that we
can really see what's going on and verify whether past
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life existed on Mars. So that's a really cool story.
And I don't want to I don't want to be
a wet blanket. I will say that doctor Tony Phillips,
who's one of my favorite He's one of my favorite
news authors in the space world. He's also the main
author of spaceweather dot com, so we we refer to
his journalism a lot.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
He was very very cautious about this story. He's like, hey,
just remember this is a we don't know story. This
is not a definitely confirmed story. So anyway, it's always
it's always worthwhile to uh check those reliable sources and
make sure you understand the entire scope of the story.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Speaking of spaceweather dot com, we'll head over there for
this next story. With a gigantic hole opening up in
the Sun's atmosphere, and spewing solar wind.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Right at us. What's going on there?
Speaker 5 (12:39):
That's exactly what's happening.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
It's a marvel movie. What are we doing.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
There's a little black chasm on the sun today. Apparently
it's not it's not it's not a spot. It's a
full on chasm. It's a giant Well, okay, so the
Sun has this thing called the corona. We don't really
think of the Sun having an atmosphere because we say, well,
isn't it all gas? Yeah, it is gas and plasma
it is. But really we kind of define a surface
(13:06):
for the Sun, and that surface is not something you
could stand on. But it's called the photosphere. It's the
it's the it's the diameter at which light escapes. Right.
So when you don't look at the sun, by the way,
but I know you've glanced up through the clouds and
seen the disc of the Sun. I know you've done that,
even though we caution you not to look at the sun.
So you've seen a round sun before, right when you
(13:28):
see it sitting at the beach. It's a round sun
that gets kind of squashed by atmospheric refraction effects. But anyway,
it's got a circular surface to it. Well, that's the photosphere,
but that's not where the Sun ends. The Sun has
gases heavily influenced by the Sun's magnetic field that hang
above that solar disk, and the corona is one of those.
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The corona is a really hot area of gases suspended
over the surface, the visible surface of the photosphere of
the Sun. Okay, so sometime, well most of the time,
the corona is getting in the way a very high
speed gas is trying to escape the Sun. We call
that the high speed solar wind or the fast solar windstream.
(14:10):
So sometimes though, a giant hole will open up in
that hovering gas above the surface called the corona, and
then there's nothing to slow the solar windstream down, and
you just get a beam of magnetically charged particle radiation
traveling at high speed with no buffer, that just streams
(14:34):
out of the Sun off its surface, through the hole
in the corona and maybe directly at your planet, the
one you live on, the Earth. Oh and by the way,
that's exactly what's happening right now. So there's a three
hundred thousand kilometer wide butterfly shaped gap on the Sun today.
(14:56):
It's a giant coronal hole. It's a allowing the gases
to escape at a very high speed in the direction
of the Earth. So yeah, our friends at spaceweather dot com,
doctor Tony Phillips and the crew say, hey, this is interesting.
You might want to be on the lookout for geosolar activity,
(15:17):
or we call it a geomagnetic storm. You might want
to be watching out for geomagnetic storms within the next
couple of days. So from now to say, oh, September fourteenth,
when the bulk of this wave is scheduled to arrive,
that could trigger a G one to G two class
geomagnetic storm that's on its own. There's something else that's
(15:43):
taking place, that's an interaction between the Sun and the
Earth and their relative magnetic fields. It's called the Russell
McFerrin effect. Don't worry, be happy. It's not Bobby McFerrin.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I went there in my head. Get out of my head, Sean.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
It's his little brother, Russell, two scientists, Russell and McFerrin.
The Russell mcfaar in effect links geomagnetic storms to a
combination of the effects of the Sun and Earth's geomagnetic
fields that occur around the equinoxes, and that equinox happens
(16:22):
here in September. It's the autumnal equinox. It's the halfway
point between summer and winter that occurs on or around
September twenty first. Therefore, we're near the equinox. Therefore, the
Earth is already subject to the r the Russell mcfarri
in effect, and also the giant solar windstream from a
(16:45):
chasm in the Sun's corona. Those two effects will add
to one another, so we may have unexpectedly strong geomagnetic
storms over the next three days or so. I would
say stay tuned. And when I say stay tuned, I
mean to this podcast. But you know you should just
do that every week, just because you should. You'll miss
(17:05):
out on things if you don't have Fomo on space
and tune into Native Stars every week. But what I
mean for this particular story, stay tuned means checkspaceweather dot
com on an obsessive hourly basis over the next three days,
so that you can be informed whether or not the
Earth is experiencing a strong enough geomagnetic storm that you
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might see northern light phenomenon in your area.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
And that's the thing that upsets people the most. They go,
why didn't you tell us? Why didn't you tell us?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
And it's like, we did. You just didn't hear it
until it was too late. That's not on us.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Wes and I have the common shared experience of being
a host of a space podcast and telling people that
there were very likely going to be solar storms in
twenty twenty four, both on May the tenth and October
the tenth, which turned out to be true. By the way,
both times, and again, it's not because we're clairvoyant souit geniuses.
(18:00):
It's because we read spaceweather dot com obsessively and we
know when these storms are likely because of the great
work done at spaceweather dot com. So we told people
on the podcast both times, Hey, you might want to
be watching out. Could be northern lights, could be northern
lights pretty far south, maybe even here in Georgia where
we are.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Well, both of those northern.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Light phenomenon went south of the United States of America,
right so, so all the way down into Central Mexico,
Puerto Rico, places like that. Anyway, So we're telling you
again here it is maybe maybe not. We never know
for sure. Scientists always have two hands on the one hand,
but on the other hand, there is one of those
(18:42):
two handed moments. But you don't want to miss out,
So go take a peek at the skies this weekend
and watch for the Russell McFerrin effect combined with a
giant hole in the Sun's corona.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Coming up.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
After a quick break, we'll talk about Starship ten and eleven.
We'll do that now, all.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Right, we got to go back a little bit to
talk about.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Starship ten and then uh, SpaceX is prepping for Starship eleven.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
I mean, anytime we get to talk about massive rockets
launching to space, especially.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
When there's a nice and successful launch, that's also nice
as well.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
I mean, we don't mind the ones that blow up
because they're kind of fun too, but we don't want
to We don't want people hurt, but we don't care
if they blow up over the ocean. It's just kind
of some extra fireworks to the day. And it's just
sort of the way that SpaceX does their engineering. But hey, friends,
if you've been paying attention to space news, well, Wes
and I were, you know, on a minor sabbatical over
(20:01):
the holiday weekend and things there, you might have noticed
that SpaceX Starship, the largest most powerful rocket ever built
by humanity, had a near flawless test on August the
twenty sixth. And if you have not seen that, but
you're a space enthusiast, well, first I'm gonna question your
(20:23):
space enthusiasm. I need to check your card right there.
But okay, let's say you missed it and you're just
kind of a mildly interested space fan, I would tell
you this SpaceX was able to deliver not only a
near flawless mission with the largest and most powerful rocket
ever built, they also delivered the most ridiculous high definition
(20:44):
video of various aspects of this launch that I personally
have ever seen.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
It was absolutely incredible.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
It was phenomenal, and yes, powered by powered by starlink
as it was, it was powered by their own internet
provider that they actually own, so yeah, their internet service
provider provided beautifully streamed video in ultra high definition of
many aspects of the launch of this vehicle, including a
(21:14):
great shot of when Starship itself was going from daylight
to dark as it was going around the curvature of
the Earth and you could see the sunset line through
the clouds on planet Earth. Absolutely spectacular. If you missed it,
what were you thinking?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Go check it out.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
It's on YouTube, Go look it up. And then they
had a absolutely incredible high definition camera mounted on a
buoy somewhere out in the Indian Ocean when the Starship
vehicle itself came back down, and they got such crisp, clear,
ultra high definition video of the controlled re entry of
(21:56):
the Starship vehicle down into the ocean that many people
just thought it was ai. They just said, oh no,
this can't possibly be real. This how did they get
this sharp video?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
How?
Speaker 5 (22:07):
And friends, in fairness, I will tell you it's twenty
twenty five. You should ask this question every time you
see video or photographs is it real? I get it,
I get it, But this one was real. Friends. They
actually captured the video of starship coming down and landing
in the ocean in a controlled manner, and obviously it
(22:28):
then sunk into the water and exploder. But anyway, so
they meant to do that, meant to do that, We
meant to do that anyway, So they did mean to
do that. So the point is incredible, Mission super Heavy
Booster had a splash down. They had no intention of
trying to catch it in the giant chopsticks. This time
they knew they were going to splash it down in
(22:49):
the ocean, so it had a controlled splash down. And
then the vehicle itself, the Starship vehicle, deployed a bunch
of dummy Starlink satellites just as a test. That deployment
went fine. They were able to fulfill that key mission objective.
And then both the again both the heavy booster and
Starship eleven Starship ten rather came down and had successful
(23:12):
landings in the water. All of this leading up to
Starship eleven, the next launch of this massive rocket system.
You see, NASA is themselves highly invested in this process
being successful because if you know anything about the Space
Launch System and the Artemis program and the Orion space capsule.
(23:36):
Right now, Starship the big rocket, not just the big rocket,
but the big spacecraft being produced by SpaceX, is NASA's
ride down from lunar orbit to the lunar surface. So
they want to They were watching with no idle curiosity
making sure that this vehicle is ready to go when
(23:59):
astronauts are going to go back to the Moon to
put footprints on the Moon again. By twenty twenty eight,
So NASA has a keen interest in that, so great
great success on August twenty sixth, Starship ten. They are
now everybody kind of now anticipating the next launch of Starship,
which would be Starship eleven. Starship eleven had a successful
(24:20):
test firing down there in Bokachka, Texas, just a couple
of days ago, as we're recording the podcast today, September
the ninth, twenty twenty five, and all of that is
in preparation for the upcoming Starship eleven launch again, further
testing and proving concepts, further proving the capability of the vehicle,
getting ready for it to become the official lunar lander
(24:42):
for the Artemis program for NASA.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
All Right, you and are big fans of the Dart mission,
where we've been fascinated with this since the beginning. It's
one of those things that I think you kind of
imagine I think as a kid for me sitting in
science class when they go, hey, an asteroid coul hit
the Earth, and you go, we on, we just knock
it off course, and all of a sudden that became
a reality a few years ago, and you and I
(25:05):
have been fascinated with all of that ever since, and
one of the things that inevitably comes up, and it
was a concern then and continues to be a concern,
maybe not so much now thanks to this story. But
what if you hit in the wrong place? Could it
become more of a danger if an asteroid was coming
for us, and apparently it could be, but if you
(25:28):
know where to hit it, then that won't necessarily be
a problem with it.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Yeah, So it's a really interesting point that if an
asteroid gets either too close to the Earth or we
don't understand its dynamics, in other words, the way it's spinning,
the way it's put together, all of those kinds of things,
that if we hit this asteroid with a spacecraft trying
to divert it or nudget out of the way so
(25:54):
it doesn't hit the Earth, but we hit it wrong,
that it could have negative consequences. Now these are things
we knew already. However, a new analysis provided by the
data from the Dark Mission. New analysis has indicated that
we can't even hit the asteroid in the wrong spot
(26:17):
because even if we nudge it away from the Earth.
Some theoretical gravitational studies have been done to say, well,
there are gravitational structures that exist around the planet Earth
and with the combined gravities of other bodies like the Sun,
that can drive objects, even if we push them away,
(26:40):
drive them back into gravitational interaction with the Earth and
back down to collide with the Earth. And these things
have been termed gravitational key holes. So we don't want
to nudge an asteroid that actually might miss the Earth.
We just think that there's a high probability that it
will impact. We don't want to nudge it into a
gravitational keyhole because then we've get a inteed that it
(27:01):
will impact the Earth, just at a later date. Right,
So there's the trick. Okay. So new studies from the
data from Dart have been done by a group of
scientists out of Jet Propotional Laboratory but also working with
the University of Illinois at Urbana Champagne, and they've tested
all manner of trajectories of asteroids that we nudge away
(27:24):
from the Earth using computer simulations and they say, yes, indeed,
you have to hit these rocks at just the right spot,
and that right spot has to do with the shape
of the asteroid, with its trajectory, its speed, its distance
from the Earth. But we can we can lay out
a grid of good impact spots and bad impact spots
(27:48):
over the surface of this asteroid based on this new
research out of Urbana Champaigne that provides probability maps for
where we do want to and don't want to impact
an incoming asteroid so that we don't so we don't
alter its trajectory into one of these gravitational key holes
where it's definitely going to fall back on the Earth
(28:10):
in the future, we want to be able to push
it away where it misses the gravitational key holes and
drifts back out into space. So it's amazing to know
that our predictive powers, using computer simulations and just our
understanding of the dynamics between motion of objects, that the
gravitational fields can provide us with a map of where
(28:33):
exactly to punch an asteroid in the eye when it's
heading in for our Earth for a close pass in
just the right batter that we don't just nudge it
out of the way temporarily, but we nudge it out
of the way permanently, missing these gravitational key holes and
saving the Earth, my friend, because that's what it's all about.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
All about saving the earth. All right, let's talk about
Music under the Dome. We have another Music under the
Dome coming up on October the seventh. As we are
in the season, I love the fall. There's so many
reasons I love the fall. My football analogies all make
sense again, you know, feeling like I can, I can,
(29:17):
I can.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Have new ones. You know, things happen, you know, talking
about the dark spacecraft. I think we use some NFL
analogies in the past, which which we're fine, but you know,
we won't bring those up today. But you know, I
love the changing of the seasons because you know, then
people it gets cold and people want to bake. You know,
so baking is awesome. Cookies, you know, pumpkin spice is
okay again, you can These are all reasons, right. But
(29:41):
Music out of the Dome friends, Musica of the Dome
is a concert series that happens here at Clumbus State
University's Coca Cola Space Science Center. And I can practically
smell the pumpkin spice right now because I know our
first Music under the Dome concert is coming up October
the seventh. I believe there are a few tickets left
for the for that com These concerts are so popular
(30:02):
that they do sell out quickly. Check our website you
might still be able to pick up tickets for this
concert and come and see us when the Schwob School
of Music faculty and students from our brilliant music college
here at the Columbus State University and they come into
our Omnosphere Theater and perform inside the planetarium to the
(30:24):
beautiful sites of original space.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Art up on the dome this month.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
It is our own Lance Tankersley, director of the Atmosphere
Theater here at Space Science Center, who's producing all of
the original graphics for this show. It's going to be fun,
it's going to be spectacular. Check out ou our website
www dot CCSSC dot org for information on this concert,
the upcoming astronomy nights, and all of the fun things
(30:49):
happening at Columbus State University's Coca Cola Space Science Center.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Sean and I thank you for listening, and we'll do
this again next week. Overhead Door Company of Columbus has
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