July 13, 2023 • 42 mins
Magicians James Lantiegne and Joshua Lantiegne talk about the rules regarding defacing money, especially when it comes to magic, give an update on Bark and talk about other stuff, too.
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Imitating your resistible internet radio rough EDGEFMdot com. The art of magic is
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with your hosts, renowned magician JamesLantine and owner of the White Rabbit Magic
Shop Joshua Lanteine. Now on roughedgem. That's right, ladies and gentlemen,
we need to take off this flashgreen so you can see the beautiful
two people behind the mic. Iam James Lantine. You now get to
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see me. Josh You're like completelycovered by the mic. I mean,
people want to see that beautiful face. Hers. Why are you so dark?
Me? Yeah, I get somesun. You look like a filling
I do. Yeah, you lookyou look so you look you look really
dark. Look at that. Huh. Now you get to see me.
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I'm looking at the most important thingabout this whole show. Give me a
minute, the deck of cards.Well yeah, all right, well this
is Magic Talk and we are actuallydoing our not This is not our first
show as far as being a livevideo podcast. We've done video podcasts in
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the past. However, we havechanged our format and we will be doing
video podcasts all of the time,which means that we're also going to change
the time that we were on.So normally Magic Talk airs at six pm
on speaker as well as all ofyour other favorite iTunes and things and iHeartRadio
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and things like that. So weare going to be airing live visually on
video, and then we will alsostill have our video or our audio podcast
which airs on all of the typicalpodcast channels, so people will get to
see us. We'll be able toshow some things, and at the same
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time, we're gont have to describewhat we're showing because we're still going to
have the audio. That's very true. That is very true. But one
downfall to radio, the one downfall, yeah, the one downfall the video
is that we get to look atyour mic versus your face. Well,
I mean your camera setup is Idon't have much cable to work off with
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him. You put me right onthe corner over here. I know I'll
get you. I'll get you betternext time. There we go. Okay,
So one of the things I wantedto mention is episode number two oh
four and two oh five ended upgoing in the can. So two oh
four was about defacing us currency,which was I might add a really good
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podcast. What happened to it?There was no audio, which is why
we're now switching our audio system overto this because the system we were using
before decided to completely quit and wewould do our whole show. You would
see all the audio levels showing andthen come to find out it didn't really
actually record anything, so we hadto start all over again. That It
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is really annoying. We had awhole guest on that one and everything,
I mean, I wasn't here,which kind of upset me. I mean
I felt a little, I felta little betrayed, like you didn't like
me anymore, and like I wasjust because I mean, yeah, nothing
against Ken at all. I meanI really like Ken, but I mean
it's he made a good fill infor you. He did, I'm sure
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he did. But you know,just because I'm having I'm having an addition
to my family. I mean,you go and you replace me like that
in my own shop of all places. Now people are going to get to
see that you're a bushman. Abushman. Yeah, oh well, because
I can go and grow a mucha much more defined luscious Yeah. Of
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facial let's just say, let's justsay that facial hair, if it was
shaved tight, would show a lotof awful a lot of bald spots.
Oh really, really all this wouldhave a lot of bald spots. Is
it connected? Finally? Oh yeah? Wow? Very cool. Yeah.
See, And and you over therewith your little I'm just gonna stick with
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my my little goatee, my littlegray goatee because I color my hair.
So I think you color your groteThey color your goatee because somebody told you
that touch of gray thing is appealingto sound, doesn't it? He went
to over the top, still bethe dye and in your face. So
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I do want to touch upon alittle bit about defacing US currency because I
think that was some pretty valuable information. Yeah, and what got onto the
subject was an interesting topic. Itso what we decided to talk about.
See, I can't do anything anymorebecause everybody's gonna be able to see we
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we what started the conversation was theBill and the Lemon trick. Yeah,
and so we're coming out with aversion of that acceptance is called forbidden Fruit.
And we have our own version,a unique design. Shall I say
to the Bill and the lemon,except it's a bill in an orange or
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grapefruit or something to that effect.The method is, uh, we've redefined
or redesigned the the method. CanI Can I say the loading method?
No, no, no, butyou can say that it does allow you
to do it with any fruit,freely selected fruit. Yeah. So the
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fruit is avail, is in frontof their eyes the whole time, and
uh, and they can pick thefruit and the bill will end up inside
the fruit. Yeah, that's good. So anyways, that that sparked a
conversation with another magician friend of mine, and what came out is that one
of the magicians did this trick andhe did it with one hundred dollar bill
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and I used to do it withone hundred dollar bill. Yeah, well,
Coleman, no, no, no, uh, it was somebody else.
I don't know who your friends are. You have to remember, I'm
about thirty years younger than you are. That's true. So, but there's
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a whole history of people. FriendI don't know. The friend is not
important. Okay. So I dida show and I had a mayor actually
in the audience, and I proceededto have them sign a one hundred dollar
bill and then the bill ended upin the fruit. After the show,
the mayor asked me for a newbill because one it had a signature written
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across the face of it, whichhe didn't want, and two it was
diced with lemon juice, so hedidn't want that either. Fortunately I had
an extra hundred with me, soI was able to swap it out.
But it made me think a littlebit about, Wow, do I really
want to be doing this if there'sa chance of people getting upset or wanting
a different bill. The other thingthat came up is I was doing a
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show at a yacht club and oneof the guests there happened to be a
I believe it was a US marshal, and so when I asked them to
sign the bill, they said,we can't. I can't sign the bill.
It's against the law. But Idon't care if somebody else signs it
for me, and so they seedto sign the bill. So what I
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what I decided to do is Idid a little research because obviously, as
a magician, you know, wedeface a lot of currency, several yeah,
coins, bills, you name it, we deface it, YEA.
So all in the name of fairnessall in the name of magic, magic
and fairness. Yeah, but coinsis defaced all the time because they're gaff
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coins. But it's it's nothing fairabout it. Well, okay, Well,
way to go and route it.Okay. So here's the sum the
summation of the law UH. DefacingUS currency is punishable by fines of up
to ten years in prison. Ifyou're convicted of damaging US bills or coins,
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you may face fines, jail time, or both. For bills,
the maximum fine is one hundred dollars. For bills, the maximum finds one
hundred dollars and the maximum jail sentencessix months. For coins, the prison
sentence can be up to five years. So the question becomes is what is
considered defacing US currency? So thedefinition is Under the provision, currency defacement
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is generally defined as the following.Whoever mutilates, cuts, disfigures, perforates,
unites, or cements together, ordoes anything other to any bilk sorry,
or does any other thing to anybill, bank, draft note,
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or other evidence of debt issued bythe National Banking Association, Federal Reserve Bank,
or Federal Reserve So whoever mutilates,cuts, disfigures, perforates, unites
or cements together or does anything toany bank, bill, draft or note.
There are tricks that all they haveto do then is go and look
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at any magic shop or any magiccreator and they have just found their quota
for anybody they need to arrest fora couple of years now actually so yeah,
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but there's a small line to it. So one of the things about
I'm just I'm looking at this now. From what you just said, it's
punishable by ten years imprisonment. Rightof course, I get that. Now,
if if if what is this,uh, if anybody is looking at
they got to what is it?The irs or anybody else needs to go
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and meet a quota, per seor anything like that. They need to
go and start attacking magicians and thenoh there you go. I mean,
unless unless magicians are doing something evenmore in a areas and they're committing fraud
by printing their own currency to goand perform these magic tricks, that's true.
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That's I I hate to be youknow, I hate to play defls
the advocate here, but I seethis all the time. Unless you go
to the UK. Now, theirtheir currency is plastic and you can't do
that anymore, their currency is plastic. Yeah, you can't rip their their
bills anymore. From really understand orI think Canada does it too. Huh
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so what I've been told, Okay, so here is uh, here's here's
basically the way the law reads.Okay, so under the provision, we
went through all of that. Yeah, it does not specifically state that money
can't be written on it does notknow Okay, so that's the gray area.
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Yeah, so it does not statethat. However, it does what's
all that nonsense about people going andhaving their phones on and such important things,
silent, having my thing back andall that kind of stuff. Yeah,
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I get that. So there Ijust did it. So it doesn't
say anything about signing out. Whatit does say, though, is unites
are cements together. Now there aremagic tricks where you're actually cementing using reverse
cement to bring up like a oneand a five together. Yeah, and
so that can be what would yousay, that could be a questionable offense.
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However, the clause does say withthe intent to render such items unfit
to be reissued. Oh so ifyou try to go and use it as
legal tender, then you're in trouble. Yeah, so it's about the intent.
So our intent is not to defaceor so what they're really looking at
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is, you know, for peoplewho are trying to change the value of
a bill or doing something to theUS currency to alter it. For example,
there was one situation where somebody scrapeddown a nickel to make it the
size of a dime so they coulduse it in a vending machine back in
the old days. So that's adifferent story. That's really what it's targeting.
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It's not really looking at going afterthe magician, because if that were
true, there would be a lotof magicians in jail. So now we're
not going and using it to goand buy something. We're just using it
to make more money, right.And part of the problem too is if
if currency gets defaced or taken outof circulation, it actually is pretty expensive
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to regenerate. So when a billis mutilated and they have to reprint,
they actually reuse the serial numbers.They have a special code in the front
that indicates that it is a reissue. So when money gets worn out or
recycled, yeah, right, andthat's that's actually a really difficult process because
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those numbers don't fall in sequence,so you know, when currency gets too
old to handle, where there istoo used, they will recycle that and
they will recycle the serial numbers,which means that there's a long, lengthy
process that's involved to do that.But regardless of all of that, I
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think my biggest argument is that alot of people, especially for one hundred
dollars bill, a lot of peopledon't feel comfortable righting across the face of
their bill, especially putting their nameon it. It makes sense, you
know, So we have do younotice that just on any any currency,
or just at the higher the billall the more. I think the higher
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the bill, the more so,Like, for example, we now have
our Forbidden Fruit trick that we areabout to release, and then that trick
is about winning a one hundred dollarsshopping spree, and all it does is
cost your dollar, and you're goingto sign your bill because you have to
find your dollar at the end ofthe game, and if you find it
correctly, you win the shopping spree. So nobody cares about a dollar,
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not usually, yeah, And ifthey do, you've probably got a dollar
in your pocket to get back tothem. Almost a yeah nowadays. So
that's that's my primary thing is thatwhen you start going after the higher currencies.
I know, if I were toldto write across the face of the
bill, I would write in tinyletters. I would not put James across
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the entire face of one hundred dollarbill. No, not unless you're planning
on giving me one hundred dollar bill, and I'll give you my one that
says James, and my signature isn'tgoing to make that bill increasing value.
So there you go. Yeah,that's grandiose magician who's got a huge name
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to himself that just made that onehundred dollars bill go and increase incrementally.
Yeah, because you know everybody's aftermy sot, they're sought after my signature,
that'd be something it would be.But that's so that's basically my two
cents on defacing US currency. Andthat's that's the law. I mean,
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that's kind of the whole thing.But any questions, Yeah, I mean,
so you don't like to go andask people to go and do large
bills. No, only in ajoking manner. Yeah, I mean I've
only heard you do it in ajoking manner. Yeah, but I would
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not. I've stopped asking people forone hundred dollars that they sign. Well,
I mean, seriously, you have, seriously what we on a serious
matter? You have? I askedpeople for money all the time. Why,
I mean, you've gone in andI've heard you say your line.
You're line that I've always heard yousay, is anybody have one hundred dollars?
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Bill? One hundred dollars? Allright? Fifty A twenty ten?
One? Okay, A one?Yeah, I work, I work my
way down. Yeah. Basically yougotta talk yourself down hi day like a
really bad used car salesman. Yes, exactly, not going up, going
down? All right, Josh,what we got something good for you?
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There is an outbreak among us.It is limited to only a small portion
of our population. They have asickness, they have an addiction. They
collect bicycle playing cards, which isbad for them but great for us because
we have almost five on the decksof playing cards to choose from. They'll
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go praising here, They'll spend everylast penny that this is their story.
This is playing cards anonymous here onmagic Talk. All right, now you
can go. There is an outbreak. Oh my gosh, only a small
portion population. Holy cow, thereis an outbreak. The zombie isn't taken
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over so bad. It's gonna goand this is the outbreak. Okay,
playing cards, it's gonna catch youeventually. You're gonna like it. You're
gonna want them. Hasn't caught me. You know you're gonna want them,
and you're gonna you're gonna have itso bad. You're just gonna get every
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single one that we get in there? All right? So what is this
deck we're looking at? And whothe heck are you? Yes? Is
but I have no idea who youare? You? No? Oh fine,
Hi, I'm josh and I'm aplaying card addict. Hi, josh
a. This is what is wrong? See, we need to go and
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have more members in our PCAA.Okay, well that makes it more.
We're all here, we're all anxiouslylooking. What deck are we looking at?
All right? So we are lookingat the Texas Playing Cards And this
is the number four Saint James LuxuryTexas playing Cards. And this is the
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luxury addition is the blue edition blueBlue. Okay, I don't know if
you can tell, not very well, but that's okay, okay, you're
fine. This is the blue therewe go, Okay, And this one
is actually a if I'm not mistaken, this is a Jackson Robinson deck.
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Yes, it is a King's Wilddeck. Nice. I like his decks.
Yeah, those are really really good. Actually is very smooth, a
nice not crushed stock. But it'sa nice luxury stock that the jokers themselves
are not identical. They well thejokers look identical, but the corner pips
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are not. They got a redstar or blue star and it looks like
a bronze star. But I thinkyou could still get away with a lot
of really good, good flourishes withjust that. The a nice illustration on
all the cards though, which isreally cool. Actually, you can take
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a good look all of the illustrations. It's kind of has that Jackson Robinson
illustration. If you've ever seen anyof the King's Wild illustrations before, they're
all this one kind of gives methe same impression I remember the Americana one.
Yes, yeah, this one kindof has that American of sense behind
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it. Well, with all thedifferent things now, the court cards look
very different. Nah, let's see, you got these guys right here,
So what's what's different about the courtcards? They've altered the well they look.
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Yeah, the illustration is very differenton them from what I'm used to
with a yeah, it doesn't havethe typical boxy kind of pattern. It's
yeah so. But as far asa King's Wild type of court card,
usually it's uh. The illustration isa tad more has a tad more of
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a standard looking to it, butthis one he changed it up a little
bit more and he's holding a leafinstead. It looks like, I forget
what they call those, but it'sa different, uh, a different type
of illustration behind it. Are youhot? And the the the aces actually
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look like they have a what dothey call that? A no almost like
a badge. Actually, yeah so, I mean works for that lone Star
Yeah, lone Star Texas. Youknow Texas Rangers. So how does it
farah? Let's find out the mostimportant question. If I remember correctly,
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King's Wild typically does paraoh pretty well? Yeah, these ones, it doesn't
have any I just want to makeone quick note. They doesn't have any
extra court cars, but does havetwo other their cards in here that I
think this is in relation to theother card, other deck or cards in
the series, because it's two doubleback, but it's a red blue double
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back. I think because there's anotherdeck in here that's a white one,
but it's uh, does this oneblue the other one another Texas deck is
white? So I gotta double verifythat for you guys. We'll find out.
Now, let's find out what itcan do. Now, do you
remember if it's back or face?I have no idea. See, that's
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what happens when you neglect your cards. That was nice, butter, butter,
okay, right from the back.That felt good. Are we looking
at for price? What we're lookingat for price? If you're going here's
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just a retail I believe that one'sgoing for thirty five dollars. Thirty five
dollars for that deck, thirty fivedollars for this dec it is a special
edition. You opened up a thirtyfive dollars deck. I did, and
I feel good about it because thisit is well worth it. It feels
really good. You're killing me,is actually this deck feels like it'll hold
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up really well. It's it's gotit's got a good spring back and the
cars they it's got really good strengthbehind the cards and good flexibility. It's
it's not like uh, it's likeI said, it's not like a crush
stock like you would expect off ofa gold seal like the Richard Turners,
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or like a like you would expectfrom I think a Jerry's. But how
they how they made their stuff.But it has something really well you would
expect out of a good casino styledeck. Cool, like a nice B
nine. I think actually even thesecards they feel like they have a B
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nine stock. So do you rememberwhat we talked about last week? Kind
of actually was out here last week, Yeah, kind of. We did
a show that didn't end up producingthe show because oh a little bit,
but I was sleepy. What dowe talk about? We talked about Bark.
We did, yes, So I'mgonna give you a quick update on
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Bark. We were talking about thefact that I was going to start doing
phone calls. So with Bark.For those of you haven't listened to our
previous show when we ended up reviewingall these different services, how could they
listen? You said that the onewas but we did a whole show on
Bark and other entertainment outlets. Sothe thing with Bark is one of the
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things that I noticed is that's alot of people a lot of birthdays,
which we established when I first gavethe initial review. But one of the
things that I discovered in working withthem is that people really don't know what
they're asking for. That I've noticeda lot they there. You see things
asking for a magician, or yousee things asking for even a strolling magician,
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when they're really not looking for astrolling magician. Right, Because we
had somewhere it's like a birthday partyfor a four year old and they're asking
for walk around. Yeah, andthey want and they want you there for
two hours. You're not looking forwalking out and and unless they're trying to
entertain all their guests. But I'vecome across somewhere it's like, uh,
you know, we want somebody fortwo hours and there's gonna be fourteen guests,
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and we want a strolling magicians.And it's like, no, you
don't, not for two hours forfourteen guests. No, you'll be lucky
if you get an hour. Imean, you could do an hour magic,
but you're all sitting there watching atthe same time, you're you're probably
going to get bored. Yeah,So I think what ends up happening on
Bark is that people are going inand they basically just have this list of
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options. How long are you're lookingfor the performer while the party is going
to be for a couple hours?What kind of magic do you want?
And so they select strolling. SoI don't think that people really understand what
it is they are selection selecting,other than the fact that they may know
I want a magician. So Barkreally isn't guiding them. No, it's
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just a hole. No, it'sa free selection. They're just going in
and choosing things. And I havenoticed that too, because I've even seen
it on a couple of different stuff. You get an email really that says,
hey, Mary or Rachel is lookingfor this, and it's almost like
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it's almost like a third hand bitright where this person, right, Bark
heard from Rachel that they're looking forthis, and then Bark goes and tells
you and a million other people.Yeah, all Bark is doing is playing.
It's like the bucket. People whoare looking for something can go on
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and people who are providing something cango on. And you know, Bark
is just giving you the handshake.They haven't evaluated it, they haven't looked
at anything, so it's you know, it's pretty neutral and what it's giving
you. So you're relying on thefact that the customer has a general idea
what it is they're looking for inthe way of magic, which most people
don't understand. So I've seeing thatwhere it's I'm looking for an entertainer,
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and then they list off a listof entertainers. DJ Blue Artist, the
yeah, yeah, yeah, theygo down and when you're you know,
if you're having a one year oldbirthday party and you're looking for a strolling
magician for ten guests, unless you'reperforming for the adults, and that's kind
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of it. They just happened.You know, we're gonna have a one
year old birthday party, but wewant to entertain everybody else. You're not
entertaining that kid. I'm fairly certainfor your thought. So the update to
bark is one of the things thatI think would be very viable is when
you send out an email one,you're taking a risk that they're not even
going to look at the email too. You paid for that credit, which
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can be five to seven dollars,maybe even more. Sometimes maybe a little
bit less, but you pay forthat credit. So if you're gonna pay
for the credit, you're better offhaving a phone conversation with them saying,
hey, I saw your posting onbark. I just wanted to get a
little bit more information. I noticedthat you were looking for a magician for
three hours. That's not generally whatwe do. So, you know,
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for a child's for your birthday party, out of those guests, how many
are those going to be kids?Are you looking to entertain the kids?
You're looking at entertaining the adults.So you really need to have a conversation
to dive in deeper to find outwhat's going on. And so this next
week I'm going to be making actualphone calls instead of sending emails to see
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if I get a better response andbetter activity, or I should say better
response and better results from making thephone call versus sending an email. So
I will report back to everybody onthat. So step one phone call and
then after phone call, maybe email, because then the email that makes sense
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because then you got to go andsend out the contract say thanks for the
call, and blah blah blah.Yeah, yeah, all right, we're
actually going to review one of ourown products coming up next. Is it
good? Should I buy it?Does it suck? Did I get ripped
off? Is it more of acrap project than a magic trick. These
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questions and more answered now on theMagic Item of the week here on Magic
Talk. So I've discovered that weprobably want to put up a video of
these things are playing. That wouldbe nice because then I don't yeah,
then I don't have to pause theaudio afterwards too. So the item that
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we're going going to evaluate is,uh, it's going to be a trick
called Magic Lotto, and this isactually one of our first productions. It's
one of the first magic tricks thatwe produce and actually put out as a
under a White Rabbit label. Sincethat time, we now have about nine
items that we were in the processof producing that will have our label on
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it. And these are all handmadeitems. Everything that we do is handcrafted.
Now you're looking at Magic Latto andyou're probably going, well, what
did you have to do to handmake this? Inside Magic Latto, you
get a lot. Yeah. InsideMagic Loaddle, one of the things that
you get is you get twenty fivescratch tickets, many hours of endless mindless
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stickers. We actually put stuff thestickers on each one of the scratches,
and we didn't look a flop themon either particulously put them on so that
they covered the circles like they weresupposed to. Pay the kid down the
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street about your cards. Let metalk about all right. I'm remembering trauma
of doing that, which is whyit was a lot of work. So
you get twenty five scratch tickets.There are actually two forces in these scratch
tickets, so that you can dothe trick more than once. We do
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also some replacements to this. Alsoinside the box, we have a plain
bit deck of bicycle playing cards thatis set up for the gimmick. It's
set up for the force as wellas for the end result, which ends
up basically meaning that the decks allturn blank or the cards all turn blank.
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And we also give you the packetwith the two different forces. So
you get the scratch tickets, theforced cards, the plane card deck which
is basically a blank deck, andit will allow you to do this trick
twice in the same arena because youcan come up with different results. So
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this, like I said, wasone of our first and I think that
we did a pretty good job withit. You know, it's packaged nice
and beautifully. It's it's in afour color box that was custom made for
this routine. And essentially what youdo is you say that you know,
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a lot of people like to playscratch tickets, and magicians are no different
than anyone else, except we liketo play scratch tickets a little differently.
We like to play them with adeck of cards. So you pull out
the scratch ticket and you read onthe scratch ticket that says, in order
to win, you have to selectfour random cards. So you give them
the deck. You show them thatthe cards have faces on them. You
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give them the deck, you askthem to count down. They have a
process that they end up doing whichleads them to this this selection of four
cards, right, And so youget to your four random cards, you
lay them on the table. Youthen ask them to scratch the four tickets
or the four circles, and oneby one they read off the circle and
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you drop the card down and itmatches, and you drop it and need
matches and the matches and so youmatch all four cards, which you then
proceed to say, well, youknow, four matches, what does that
get you a lot of you know, a free ticket. It's really the
crystal ball, the megaball that reallydraws in all the money. So in
order to get that ball, whatdoes it tell us to do. It
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tells us to add up the valueof all four cards and then count down
in the deck. So you addthem all up, they count down,
they get to that last card,they unscratched the crystal ball, and it's
a perfect match. And so yousay, oh my gosh, you are
actually incredibly lucky. In fact,you are so lucky. You fan out
the cards. Those are the onlycards in the deck because the rest of
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the deck is blank, and thenit gives you a little souvenir to hand
out to them, which is whatI say. I always say it's like
a fortune cookie, because on thelottery ticket it says it has a little
you know, fortune cookie kind ofsaying that we wrote, and it essentially
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says, believe in yourself and youwill always come out a winner. And
so you got a nice little cardthat you can hand out. You could
put your phone number on the backof it, and it gives them a
little souvenir to remember the occasion,which is always nice when you're performing and
strolling. So this trick sells forforty dollars and it is only available at
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that we have developed and we'll haveavailable on White Rabbit Magic. All right,
anything else, josh uh, Well, I mean, if we're talking
about the defacing of the US currency, I found out I'm talking about that
anymore. Well, there was onething you missed. Okay, what's that?
Because there was one in relation toI noticed so that's the beautiful packaging.
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That is beautiful. Yeah, okay, you were just talking about it.
Yeah, go ahead. I forgotthat. I put that up there
so that I could actually show itwhile we were talking, but I forgot
to do that. You did,so now I did. That's okay,
all right, go ahead. I'mstarting to realize that as a father,
you do forget things. Yeah,well, when you're doing the U.
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I talked to somebody in our localbank. It was because I was curious
about that, you know, what, what's the what's the limit behind it
all? And they was saying thatif you do anything to it, all
you have to do is bring itback to us, and then as long
as it doesn't go back into circulation, it's fine because you know, if
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you're going to cut it up andyou you mangle it or anything like that,
that's you're not going to get intoany type of trouble. Yeah.
The bank wants it back so thatthey can reissue those serial numbers. Yeah,
so they figure it out, reissuethe serial numbers, and then they
can destroy it so that that doesn'tgo and go out anywhere. But again,
the main defacing issue was about alternativeto the fraud. Yeah, so
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is that? I think that's thebig thing. They don't want to going
out to be used. Why areyou bringing us back full circle? Because
I wanted to. You didn't bringit back full circle. You said this,
this, this, and oh yeahabout that, and then they go
somewhere else just say anything. No, and you didn't. You didn't complete
it. I don't like a noncompletething. That's like, I'm part of
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the Cleaning your Plate club. Idon't know why you're not. You're a
very picky eater. Yeah. Sois that what we're gonna do now is
we're gonna have an episode called cleanyour Plate. Yeah, which means finish
your sentences. That's the topic you'retalking about. You got eight seconds?
Anything anything more? Well, Ibelieve that was it. Oh and if
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you go and you bend any ofthe coins that you keep bending you're going
around town, I think you're kindof well, don't go tell people I've
bend coins. Why you do it? Everywhere? And you make it and
everybody's just begging for you to doit too, throwing your quarters out you
like, I know, I'll signit. Can you bend it? Dude?
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You can't. Strolling show that wedid, and I think I must
have done that ben quarter trick abouttwenty five times. Oh my god,
it was. It was twenty dollarsworth of quarters that should have been.
It reminded me of when you goto the amusement park, put your penny
in and you get I'm like thatmachine. You should have charged like that.
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I would have been put that moneyin and then you can bend a
quarters on that machine, So youshould have done it. Anyways, Thank
you're all for listening. Thank you'reall for listening. Keep in mind that
our episodes will be on at fouro'clock via Facebook and YouTube and uh and
they will be available by podcast onall of your favorite podcast channels at six
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o'clock on the same day. Sothank you for listening. I hope you
all enjoyed the show. I hopeyou didn't mind looking at my face too
long. And yeah, I didn'tshow Josh all that much, so it
wasn't a problem. Well man,you know, probably not because those falling
asleep six o'clock, can we makethat a little early? I'm we don't
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have to do six shots. Mybedtime is, we don't have to do
my bedtime' is gonna get a littlebit uh later, we see a hand,
let's talk to the hand. I'mtired, all right, we will
be to have I'm gonna have aone day old baby on my hands in
a little while. That's Jill.It's only gonna be one day for one
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day. That's very true. Butyou know how difficult that was? All
right? Episode number two four isin the can. So thank you.
We got to do that again.No, we do not. Thank you
all for listening. We'll be backnext week. Abracadabra, pocus pocus,
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we need to take off this flashgreen so you can see the beautiful
two people behind the mic. Iam James Lantine. You now get to
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see me. Josh You're like completelycovered by the mic. I mean,
people want to see that beautiful face. Hers. Why are you so dark?
Me? Yeah, I get somesun. You look like a filling
I do. Yeah, you lookyou look so you look you look really
dark. Look at that. Huh. Now you get to see me.
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I'm looking at the most important thingabout this whole show. Give me a
minute, the deck of cards.Well yeah, all right, well this
is Magic Talk and we are actuallydoing our not This is not our first
show as far as being a livevideo podcast. We've done video podcasts in
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the past. However, we havechanged our format and we will be doing
video podcasts all of the time,which means that we're also going to change
the time that we were on.So normally Magic Talk airs at six pm
on speaker as well as all ofyour other favorite iTunes and things and iHeartRadio
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and things like that. So weare going to be airing live visually on
video, and then we will alsostill have our video or our audio podcast
which airs on all of the typicalpodcast channels, so people will get to
see us. We'll be able toshow some things, and at the same
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time, we're gont have to describewhat we're showing because we're still going to
have the audio. That's very true. That is very true. But one
downfall to radio, the one downfall, yeah, the one downfall the video
is that we get to look atyour mic versus your face. Well,
I mean your camera setup is Idon't have much cable to work off with
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him. You put me right onthe corner over here. I know I'll
get you. I'll get you betternext time. There we go. Okay,
So one of the things I wantedto mention is episode number two oh
four and two oh five ended upgoing in the can. So two oh
four was about defacing us currency,which was I might add a really good
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podcast. What happened to it?There was no audio, which is why
we're now switching our audio system overto this because the system we were using
before decided to completely quit and wewould do our whole show. You would
see all the audio levels showing andthen come to find out it didn't really
actually record anything, so we hadto start all over again. That It
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is really annoying. We had awhole guest on that one and everything,
I mean, I wasn't here,which kind of upset me. I mean
I felt a little, I felta little betrayed, like you didn't like
me anymore, and like I wasjust because I mean, yeah, nothing
against Ken at all. I meanI really like Ken, but I mean
it's he made a good fill infor you. He did, I'm sure
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he did. But you know,just because I'm having I'm having an addition
to my family. I mean,you go and you replace me like that
in my own shop of all places. Now people are going to get to
see that you're a bushman. Abushman. Yeah, oh well, because
I can go and grow a mucha much more defined luscious Yeah. Of
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facial let's just say, let's justsay that facial hair, if it was
shaved tight, would show a lotof awful a lot of bald spots.
Oh really, really all this wouldhave a lot of bald spots. Is
it connected? Finally? Oh yeah? Wow? Very cool. Yeah.
See, And and you over therewith your little I'm just gonna stick with
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my my little goatee, my littlegray goatee because I color my hair.
So I think you color your groteThey color your goatee because somebody told you
that touch of gray thing is appealingto sound, doesn't it? He went
to over the top, still bethe dye and in your face. So
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I do want to touch upon alittle bit about defacing US currency because I
think that was some pretty valuable information. Yeah, and what got onto the
subject was an interesting topic. Itso what we decided to talk about.
See, I can't do anything anymorebecause everybody's gonna be able to see we
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we what started the conversation was theBill and the Lemon trick. Yeah,
and so we're coming out with aversion of that acceptance is called forbidden Fruit.
And we have our own version,a unique design. Shall I say
to the Bill and the lemon,except it's a bill in an orange or
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grapefruit or something to that effect.The method is, uh, we've redefined
or redesigned the the method. CanI Can I say the loading method?
No, no, no, butyou can say that it does allow you
to do it with any fruit,freely selected fruit. Yeah. So the
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fruit is avail, is in frontof their eyes the whole time, and
uh, and they can pick thefruit and the bill will end up inside
the fruit. Yeah, that's good. So anyways, that that sparked a
conversation with another magician friend of mine, and what came out is that one
of the magicians did this trick andhe did it with one hundred dollar bill
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and I used to do it withone hundred dollar bill. Yeah, well,
Coleman, no, no, no, uh, it was somebody else.
I don't know who your friends are. You have to remember, I'm
about thirty years younger than you are. That's true. So, but there's
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a whole history of people. FriendI don't know. The friend is not
important. Okay. So I dida show and I had a mayor actually
in the audience, and I proceededto have them sign a one hundred dollar
bill and then the bill ended upin the fruit. After the show,
the mayor asked me for a newbill because one it had a signature written
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across the face of it, whichhe didn't want, and two it was
diced with lemon juice, so hedidn't want that either. Fortunately I had
an extra hundred with me, soI was able to swap it out.
But it made me think a littlebit about, Wow, do I really
want to be doing this if there'sa chance of people getting upset or wanting
a different bill. The other thingthat came up is I was doing a
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show at a yacht club and oneof the guests there happened to be a
I believe it was a US marshal, and so when I asked them to
sign the bill, they said,we can't. I can't sign the bill.
It's against the law. But Idon't care if somebody else signs it
for me, and so they seedto sign the bill. So what I
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what I decided to do is Idid a little research because obviously, as
a magician, you know, wedeface a lot of currency, several yeah,
coins, bills, you name it, we deface it, YEA.
So all in the name of fairnessall in the name of magic, magic
and fairness. Yeah, but coinsis defaced all the time because they're gaff
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coins. But it's it's nothing fairabout it. Well, okay, Well,
way to go and route it.Okay. So here's the sum the
summation of the law UH. DefacingUS currency is punishable by fines of up
to ten years in prison. Ifyou're convicted of damaging US bills or coins,
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you may face fines, jail time, or both. For bills,
the maximum fine is one hundred dollars. For bills, the maximum finds one
hundred dollars and the maximum jail sentencessix months. For coins, the prison
sentence can be up to five years. So the question becomes is what is
considered defacing US currency? So thedefinition is Under the provision, currency defacement
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is generally defined as the following.Whoever mutilates, cuts, disfigures, perforates,
unites, or cements together, ordoes anything other to any bilk sorry,
or does any other thing to anybill, bank, draft note,
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or other evidence of debt issued bythe National Banking Association, Federal Reserve Bank,
or Federal Reserve So whoever mutilates,cuts, disfigures, perforates, unites
or cements together or does anything toany bank, bill, draft or note.
There are tricks that all they haveto do then is go and look
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at any magic shop or any magiccreator and they have just found their quota
for anybody they need to arrest fora couple of years now actually so yeah,
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but there's a small line to it. So one of the things about
I'm just I'm looking at this now. From what you just said, it's
punishable by ten years imprisonment. Rightof course, I get that. Now,
if if if what is this,uh, if anybody is looking at
they got to what is it?The irs or anybody else needs to go
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and meet a quota, per seor anything like that. They need to
go and start attacking magicians and thenoh there you go. I mean,
unless unless magicians are doing something evenmore in a areas and they're committing fraud
by printing their own currency to goand perform these magic tricks, that's true.
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That's I I hate to be youknow, I hate to play defls
the advocate here, but I seethis all the time. Unless you go
to the UK. Now, theirtheir currency is plastic and you can't do
that anymore, their currency is plastic. Yeah, you can't rip their their
bills anymore. From really understand orI think Canada does it too. Huh
(11:33):
so what I've been told, Okay, so here is uh, here's here's
basically the way the law reads.Okay, so under the provision, we
went through all of that. Yeah, it does not specifically state that money
can't be written on it does notknow Okay, so that's the gray area.
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Yeah, so it does not statethat. However, it does what's
all that nonsense about people going andhaving their phones on and such important things,
silent, having my thing back andall that kind of stuff. Yeah,
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I get that. So there Ijust did it. So it doesn't
say anything about signing out. Whatit does say, though, is unites
are cements together. Now there aremagic tricks where you're actually cementing using reverse
cement to bring up like a oneand a five together. Yeah, and
so that can be what would yousay, that could be a questionable offense.
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However, the clause does say withthe intent to render such items unfit
to be reissued. Oh so ifyou try to go and use it as
legal tender, then you're in trouble. Yeah, so it's about the intent.
So our intent is not to defaceor so what they're really looking at
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is, you know, for peoplewho are trying to change the value of
a bill or doing something to theUS currency to alter it. For example,
there was one situation where somebody scrapeddown a nickel to make it the
size of a dime so they coulduse it in a vending machine back in
the old days. So that's adifferent story. That's really what it's targeting.
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It's not really looking at going afterthe magician, because if that were
true, there would be a lotof magicians in jail. So now we're
not going and using it to goand buy something. We're just using it
to make more money, right.And part of the problem too is if
if currency gets defaced or taken outof circulation, it actually is pretty expensive
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to regenerate. So when a billis mutilated and they have to reprint,
they actually reuse the serial numbers.They have a special code in the front
that indicates that it is a reissue. So when money gets worn out or
recycled, yeah, right, andthat's that's actually a really difficult process because
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those numbers don't fall in sequence,so you know, when currency gets too
old to handle, where there istoo used, they will recycle that and
they will recycle the serial numbers,which means that there's a long, lengthy
process that's involved to do that.But regardless of all of that, I
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think my biggest argument is that alot of people, especially for one hundred
dollars bill, a lot of peopledon't feel comfortable righting across the face of
their bill, especially putting their nameon it. It makes sense, you
know, So we have do younotice that just on any any currency,
or just at the higher the billall the more. I think the higher
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the bill, the more so,Like, for example, we now have
our Forbidden Fruit trick that we areabout to release, and then that trick
is about winning a one hundred dollarsshopping spree, and all it does is
cost your dollar, and you're goingto sign your bill because you have to
find your dollar at the end ofthe game, and if you find it
correctly, you win the shopping spree. So nobody cares about a dollar,
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not usually, yeah, And ifthey do, you've probably got a dollar
in your pocket to get back tothem. Almost a yeah nowadays. So
that's that's my primary thing is thatwhen you start going after the higher currencies.
I know, if I were toldto write across the face of the
bill, I would write in tinyletters. I would not put James across
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the entire face of one hundred dollarbill. No, not unless you're planning
on giving me one hundred dollar bill, and I'll give you my one that
says James, and my signature isn'tgoing to make that bill increasing value.
So there you go. Yeah,that's grandiose magician who's got a huge name
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to himself that just made that onehundred dollars bill go and increase incrementally.
Yeah, because you know everybody's aftermy sot, they're sought after my signature,
that'd be something it would be.But that's so that's basically my two
cents on defacing US currency. Andthat's that's the law. I mean,
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that's kind of the whole thing.But any questions, Yeah, I mean,
so you don't like to go andask people to go and do large
bills. No, only in ajoking manner. Yeah, I mean I've
only heard you do it in ajoking manner. Yeah, but I would
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not. I've stopped asking people forone hundred dollars that they sign. Well,
I mean, seriously, you have, seriously what we on a serious
matter? You have? I askedpeople for money all the time. Why,
I mean, you've gone in andI've heard you say your line.
You're line that I've always heard yousay, is anybody have one hundred dollars?
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Bill? One hundred dollars? Allright? Fifty A twenty ten?
One? Okay, A one?Yeah, I work, I work my
way down. Yeah. Basically yougotta talk yourself down hi day like a
really bad used car salesman. Yes, exactly, not going up, going
down? All right, Josh,what we got something good for you?
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This is playing cards anonymous here onmagic Talk. All right, now you
can go. There is an outbreak. Oh my gosh, only a small
portion population. Holy cow, thereis an outbreak. The zombie isn't taken
(18:27):
over so bad. It's gonna goand this is the outbreak. Okay,
playing cards, it's gonna catch youeventually. You're gonna like it. You're
gonna want them. Hasn't caught me. You know you're gonna want them,
and you're gonna you're gonna have itso bad. You're just gonna get every
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single one that we get in there? All right? So what is this
deck we're looking at? And whothe heck are you? Yes? Is
but I have no idea who youare? You? No? Oh fine,
Hi, I'm josh and I'm aplaying card addict. Hi, josh
a. This is what is wrong? See, we need to go and
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have more members in our PCAA.Okay, well that makes it more.
We're all here, we're all anxiouslylooking. What deck are we looking at?
All right? So we are lookingat the Texas Playing Cards And this
is the number four Saint James LuxuryTexas playing Cards. And this is the
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luxury addition is the blue edition blueBlue. Okay, I don't know if
you can tell, not very well, but that's okay, okay, you're
fine. This is the blue therewe go, Okay, And this one
is actually a if I'm not mistaken, this is a Jackson Robinson deck.
(20:00):
Yes, it is a King's Wilddeck. Nice. I like his decks.
Yeah, those are really really good. Actually is very smooth, a
nice not crushed stock. But it'sa nice luxury stock that the jokers themselves
are not identical. They well thejokers look identical, but the corner pips
(20:22):
are not. They got a redstar or blue star and it looks like
a bronze star. But I thinkyou could still get away with a lot
of really good, good flourishes withjust that. The a nice illustration on
all the cards though, which isreally cool. Actually, you can take
(20:44):
a good look all of the illustrations. It's kind of has that Jackson Robinson
illustration. If you've ever seen anyof the King's Wild illustrations before, they're
all this one kind of gives methe same impression I remember the Americana one.
Yes, yeah, this one kindof has that American of sense behind
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it. Well, with all thedifferent things now, the court cards look
very different. Nah, let's see, you got these guys right here,
So what's what's different about the courtcards? They've altered the well they look.
(21:30):
Yeah, the illustration is very differenton them from what I'm used to
with a yeah, it doesn't havethe typical boxy kind of pattern. It's
yeah so. But as far asa King's Wild type of court card,
usually it's uh. The illustration isa tad more has a tad more of
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a standard looking to it, butthis one he changed it up a little
bit more and he's holding a leafinstead. It looks like, I forget
what they call those, but it'sa different, uh, a different type
of illustration behind it. Are youhot? And the the the aces actually
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look like they have a what dothey call that? A no almost like
a badge. Actually, yeah so, I mean works for that lone Star
Yeah, lone Star Texas. Youknow Texas Rangers. So how does it
farah? Let's find out the mostimportant question. If I remember correctly,
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King's Wild typically does paraoh pretty well? Yeah, these ones, it doesn't
have any I just want to makeone quick note. They doesn't have any
extra court cars, but does havetwo other their cards in here that I
think this is in relation to theother card, other deck or cards in
the series, because it's two doubleback, but it's a red blue double
(23:11):
back. I think because there's anotherdeck in here that's a white one,
but it's uh, does this oneblue the other one another Texas deck is
white? So I gotta double verifythat for you guys. We'll find out.
Now, let's find out what itcan do. Now, do you
remember if it's back or face?I have no idea. See, that's
(23:36):
what happens when you neglect your cards. That was nice, butter, butter,
okay, right from the back.That felt good. Are we looking
at for price? What we're lookingat for price? If you're going here's
(24:00):
just a retail I believe that one'sgoing for thirty five dollars. Thirty five
dollars for that deck, thirty fivedollars for this dec it is a special
edition. You opened up a thirtyfive dollars deck. I did, and
I feel good about it because thisit is well worth it. It feels
really good. You're killing me,is actually this deck feels like it'll hold
(24:21):
up really well. It's it's gotit's got a good spring back and the
cars they it's got really good strengthbehind the cards and good flexibility. It's
it's not like uh, it's likeI said, it's not like a crush
stock like you would expect off ofa gold seal like the Richard Turners,
(24:47):
or like a like you would expectfrom I think a Jerry's. But how
they how they made their stuff.But it has something really well you would
expect out of a good casino styledeck. Cool, like a nice B
nine. I think actually even thesecards they feel like they have a B
(25:08):
nine stock. So do you rememberwhat we talked about last week? Kind
of actually was out here last week, Yeah, kind of. We did
a show that didn't end up producingthe show because oh a little bit,
but I was sleepy. What dowe talk about? We talked about Bark.
We did, yes, So I'mgonna give you a quick update on
(25:30):
Bark. We were talking about thefact that I was going to start doing
phone calls. So with Bark.For those of you haven't listened to our
previous show when we ended up reviewingall these different services, how could they
listen? You said that the onewas but we did a whole show on
Bark and other entertainment outlets. Sothe thing with Bark is one of the
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things that I noticed is that's alot of people a lot of birthdays,
which we established when I first gavethe initial review. But one of the
things that I discovered in working withthem is that people really don't know what
they're asking for. That I've noticeda lot they there. You see things
asking for a magician, or yousee things asking for even a strolling magician,
(26:21):
when they're really not looking for astrolling magician. Right, Because we
had somewhere it's like a birthday partyfor a four year old and they're asking
for walk around. Yeah, andthey want and they want you there for
two hours. You're not looking forwalking out and and unless they're trying to
entertain all their guests. But I'vecome across somewhere it's like, uh,
you know, we want somebody fortwo hours and there's gonna be fourteen guests,
(26:48):
and we want a strolling magicians.And it's like, no, you
don't, not for two hours forfourteen guests. No, you'll be lucky
if you get an hour. Imean, you could do an hour magic,
but you're all sitting there watching atthe same time, you're you're probably
going to get bored. Yeah,So I think what ends up happening on
Bark is that people are going inand they basically just have this list of
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options. How long are you're lookingfor the performer while the party is going
to be for a couple hours?What kind of magic do you want?
And so they select strolling. SoI don't think that people really understand what
it is they are selection selecting,other than the fact that they may know
I want a magician. So Barkreally isn't guiding them. No, it's
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just a hole. No, it'sa free selection. They're just going in
and choosing things. And I havenoticed that too, because I've even seen
it on a couple of different stuff. You get an email really that says,
hey, Mary or Rachel is lookingfor this, and it's almost like
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it's almost like a third hand bitright where this person, right, Bark
heard from Rachel that they're looking forthis, and then Bark goes and tells
you and a million other people.Yeah, all Bark is doing is playing.
It's like the bucket. People whoare looking for something can go on
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and people who are providing something cango on. And you know, Bark
is just giving you the handshake.They haven't evaluated it, they haven't looked
at anything, so it's you know, it's pretty neutral and what it's giving
you. So you're relying on thefact that the customer has a general idea
what it is they're looking for inthe way of magic, which most people
don't understand. So I've seeing thatwhere it's I'm looking for an entertainer,
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and then they list off a listof entertainers. DJ Blue Artist, the
yeah, yeah, yeah, theygo down and when you're you know,
if you're having a one year oldbirthday party and you're looking for a strolling
magician for ten guests, unless you'reperforming for the adults, and that's kind
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of it. They just happened.You know, we're gonna have a one
year old birthday party, but wewant to entertain everybody else. You're not
entertaining that kid. I'm fairly certainfor your thought. So the update to
bark is one of the things thatI think would be very viable is when
you send out an email one,you're taking a risk that they're not even
going to look at the email too. You paid for that credit, which
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can be five to seven dollars,maybe even more. Sometimes maybe a little
bit less, but you pay forthat credit. So if you're gonna pay
for the credit, you're better offhaving a phone conversation with them saying,
hey, I saw your posting onbark. I just wanted to get a
little bit more information. I noticedthat you were looking for a magician for
three hours. That's not generally whatwe do. So, you know,
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for a child's for your birthday party, out of those guests, how many
are those going to be kids?Are you looking to entertain the kids?
You're looking at entertaining the adults.So you really need to have a conversation
to dive in deeper to find outwhat's going on. And so this next
week I'm going to be making actualphone calls instead of sending emails to see
(30:17):
if I get a better response andbetter activity, or I should say better
response and better results from making thephone call versus sending an email. So
I will report back to everybody onthat. So step one phone call and
then after phone call, maybe email, because then the email that makes sense
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because then you got to go andsend out the contract say thanks for the
call, and blah blah blah.Yeah, yeah, all right, we're
actually going to review one of ourown products coming up next. Is it
good? Should I buy it?Does it suck? Did I get ripped
off? Is it more of acrap project than a magic trick. These
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questions and more answered now on theMagic Item of the week here on Magic
Talk. So I've discovered that weprobably want to put up a video of
these things are playing. That wouldbe nice because then I don't yeah,
then I don't have to pause theaudio afterwards too. So the item that
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we're going going to evaluate is,uh, it's going to be a trick
called Magic Lotto, and this isactually one of our first productions. It's
one of the first magic tricks thatwe produce and actually put out as a
under a White Rabbit label. Sincethat time, we now have about nine
items that we were in the processof producing that will have our label on
(31:44):
it. And these are all handmadeitems. Everything that we do is handcrafted.
Now you're looking at Magic Latto andyou're probably going, well, what
did you have to do to handmake this? Inside Magic Latto, you
get a lot. Yeah. InsideMagic Loaddle, one of the things that
you get is you get twenty fivescratch tickets, many hours of endless mindless
(32:09):
stickers. We actually put stuff thestickers on each one of the scratches,
and we didn't look a flop themon either particulously put them on so that
they covered the circles like they weresupposed to. Pay the kid down the
(32:30):
street about your cards. Let metalk about all right. I'm remembering trauma
of doing that, which is whyit was a lot of work. So
you get twenty five scratch tickets.There are actually two forces in these scratch
tickets, so that you can dothe trick more than once. We do
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also some replacements to this. Alsoinside the box, we have a plain
bit deck of bicycle playing cards thatis set up for the gimmick. It's
set up for the force as wellas for the end result, which ends
up basically meaning that the decks allturn blank or the cards all turn blank.
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And we also give you the packetwith the two different forces. So
you get the scratch tickets, theforced cards, the plane card deck which
is basically a blank deck, andit will allow you to do this trick
twice in the same arena because youcan come up with different results. So
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this, like I said, wasone of our first and I think that
we did a pretty good job withit. You know, it's packaged nice
and beautifully. It's it's in afour color box that was custom made for
this routine. And essentially what youdo is you say that you know,
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a lot of people like to playscratch tickets, and magicians are no different
than anyone else, except we liketo play scratch tickets a little differently.
We like to play them with adeck of cards. So you pull out
the scratch ticket and you read onthe scratch ticket that says, in order
to win, you have to selectfour random cards. So you give them
the deck. You show them thatthe cards have faces on them. You
(34:15):
give them the deck, you askthem to count down. They have a
process that they end up doing whichleads them to this this selection of four
cards, right, And so youget to your four random cards, you
lay them on the table. Youthen ask them to scratch the four tickets
or the four circles, and oneby one they read off the circle and
(34:37):
you drop the card down and itmatches, and you drop it and need
matches and the matches and so youmatch all four cards, which you then
proceed to say, well, youknow, four matches, what does that
get you a lot of you know, a free ticket. It's really the
crystal ball, the megaball that reallydraws in all the money. So in
order to get that ball, whatdoes it tell us to do. It
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tells us to add up the valueof all four cards and then count down
in the deck. So you addthem all up, they count down,
they get to that last card,they unscratched the crystal ball, and it's
a perfect match. And so yousay, oh my gosh, you are
actually incredibly lucky. In fact,you are so lucky. You fan out
the cards. Those are the onlycards in the deck because the rest of
(35:19):
the deck is blank, and thenit gives you a little souvenir to hand
out to them, which is whatI say. I always say it's like
a fortune cookie, because on thelottery ticket it says it has a little
you know, fortune cookie kind ofsaying that we wrote, and it essentially
(35:40):
says, believe in yourself and youwill always come out a winner. And
so you got a nice little cardthat you can hand out. You could
put your phone number on the backof it, and it gives them a
little souvenir to remember the occasion,which is always nice when you're performing and
strolling. So this trick sells forforty dollars and it is only available at
(36:02):
White Rabbit wr magic dot com.What and you just opened it? No,
this is mine. I actually boughtone. Thanks, I bought the
first one, so throwing it rightback at you, I know, yeah,
(36:25):
but so check it out. Wehave nine. Oh. I didn't
even think of this. One makesten. Oh. We actually have fully
developed ten new products that we're goingto be releasing under the White Rabbit label.
All these products are handmade, they'recustom made. Most of them are
(36:51):
out of wood, and they're nicelystained and varnished. One is called Stoplight,
which is a kind of a spinoffof the Stratosphere. It has a
new mechanism or a new method todoing that. The other one is a
billet box. We don't give itall the way now, Okay, So
we're gonna we're gonna do a showthat's gonna be dedicated just to the items
(37:15):
that we have developed and we'll haveavailable on White Rabbit Magic. All right,
anything else, josh uh, Well, I mean, if we're talking
about the defacing of the US currency, I found out I'm talking about that
anymore. Well, there was onething you missed. Okay, what's that?
Because there was one in relation toI noticed so that's the beautiful packaging.
(37:39):
That is beautiful. Yeah, okay, you were just talking about it.
Yeah, go ahead. I forgotthat. I put that up there
so that I could actually show itwhile we were talking, but I forgot
to do that. You did,so now I did. That's okay,
all right, go ahead. I'mstarting to realize that as a father,
you do forget things. Yeah,well, when you're doing the U.
(38:01):
I talked to somebody in our localbank. It was because I was curious
about that, you know, what, what's the what's the limit behind it
all? And they was saying thatif you do anything to it, all
you have to do is bring itback to us, and then as long
as it doesn't go back into circulation, it's fine because you know, if
(38:22):
you're going to cut it up andyou you mangle it or anything like that,
that's you're not going to get intoany type of trouble. Yeah.
The bank wants it back so thatthey can reissue those serial numbers. Yeah,
so they figure it out, reissuethe serial numbers, and then they
can destroy it so that that doesn'tgo and go out anywhere. But again,
the main defacing issue was about alternativeto the fraud. Yeah, so
(38:46):
is that? I think that's thebig thing. They don't want to going
out to be used. Why areyou bringing us back full circle? Because
I wanted to. You didn't bringit back full circle. You said this,
this, this, and oh yeahabout that, and then they go
somewhere else just say anything. No, and you didn't. You didn't complete
it. I don't like a noncompletething. That's like, I'm part of
(39:06):
the Cleaning your Plate club. Idon't know why you're not. You're a
very picky eater. Yeah. Sois that what we're gonna do now is
we're gonna have an episode called cleanyour Plate. Yeah, which means finish
your sentences. That's the topic you'retalking about. You got eight seconds?
Anything anything more? Well, Ibelieve that was it. Oh and if
(39:28):
you go and you bend any ofthe coins that you keep bending you're going
around town, I think you're kindof well, don't go tell people I've
bend coins. Why you do it? Everywhere? And you make it and
everybody's just begging for you to doit too, throwing your quarters out you
like, I know, I'll signit. Can you bend it? Dude?
(39:53):
You can't. Strolling show that wedid, and I think I must
have done that ben quarter trick abouttwenty five times. Oh my god,
it was. It was twenty dollarsworth of quarters that should have been.
It reminded me of when you goto the amusement park, put your penny
in and you get I'm like thatmachine. You should have charged like that.
(40:17):
I would have been put that moneyin and then you can bend a
quarters on that machine, So youshould have done it. Anyways, Thank
you're all for listening. Thank you'reall for listening. Keep in mind that
our episodes will be on at fouro'clock via Facebook and YouTube and uh and
they will be available by podcast onall of your favorite podcast channels at six
(40:40):
o'clock on the same day. Sothank you for listening. I hope you
all enjoyed the show. I hopeyou didn't mind looking at my face too
long. And yeah, I didn'tshow Josh all that much, so it
wasn't a problem. Well man,you know, probably not because those falling
asleep six o'clock, can we makethat a little early? I'm we don't
(41:01):
have to do six shots. Mybedtime is, we don't have to do
my bedtime' is gonna get a littlebit uh later, we see a hand,
let's talk to the hand. I'mtired, all right, we will
be to have I'm gonna have aone day old baby on my hands in
a little while. That's Jill.It's only gonna be one day for one
(41:22):
day. That's very true. Butyou know how difficult that was? All
right? Episode number two four isin the can. So thank you.
We got to do that again.No, we do not. Thank you
all for listening. We'll be backnext week. Abracadabra, pocus pocus,
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presto. Pick a card, anycard. Some words are magic. They
sparkle with the promise of something wonderful, but there's still just words until you
add that something wonderful to the mix. And that's what you'll find at the
White Rabbit Magic Shop in Santa Paula. They're in tory. Includes world class
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