50. Star Trek Fans

This one is about us, and you.

Episode Transcript

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dot com for more information. Syndicatednow establishing data link accessing Hello, and
welcome to episode fifty of Makeing SoHello. Is this our golden anniversary or
one of those things? Yeah?That sounds dirty, doesn't it. Yeah,

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we're doing We're doing a special episodefor our fiftieth Even though I don't
know, I still feel weird aboutit. Why because I think you do
it at a hundred, well fiftiesaround number. It's a big number,
so lots of we might not makeit to a hundred. Why won't we
make it to a hundred? Youmight die, You might die, We
both might dieting again. No,not this week. Okay, So this

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week we're going to do a showabout you, guys, you crazy bunch
of crazy bunch of We have tosay, ultimately, it's also us.
It's about us. It is well, it's all about all of us,
collective us, the wei we thatis us. You listening now? You
you there? You go and standin front of a mirror and then you'll

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see who this show is about.Yeah, it's about you. Have a
good hard look at yourself. Doyou know? On what is it?
Enjoying it? Is Time Magazine's personof the Year thing was it was us,
It was us, and they puta mirror thing on the front of
their magazine. Yeah, if wecould do that on a podcast, that
would beat That's what we'd do.It was very clever, Actually, wasn't
It was all about I think itwas a cop out, but there you

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go. Well, not really.They've chosen a Man of the Year or
person of the Year for the lasthowever many years they've been doing it,
so it's an interesting choice. Ithought it was better than the year before
because he had Bill and Melinda Gatesand Bono and for Person of the Year.
And first of all, that's threepeople. Second of all, two
of them happened to be married.And it really doesn't make for a good

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picture on the front of the magazinewhen you've got Bono with his arms round
Bill and Melinda Gates with Bill lookinga bit like why the fuck is he
here? And so it didn't lookvery good. And did Milinda look like
she wanted to fuck Bonno? No, no, she's happy with Bill.
She was happy with Bill. Idon't think the kind of woman that would
go for Bill would also go forBonno. Probably not you know that they

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don't like to cross over. Womenhave their types iPhone. Maybe that's that's
a gross generalization and being the misogynisttime generally accused of being. Although I
still don't know why. Shut up. So right before we get cracking with
the actual fans stuff we're gonna I'vegot a list here of shout outs to
make for various people, and youcan chip in with humorous remarks every now

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and then. That's what I'm herefor. While I go through that,
you can be comedy interrupting man fora change. Okay, yeah, I've
not been comedy interrupting man for quitesome time. I've been working on not
being that. Have you worked,if you've been working hard, been working
podcasting at home? Do you?Is that what you do all? Though?
You have a book? Do Ihave a book? Yeah? A

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book of what? A podcasting book? A podcasting book? Writing them now
you know, oh, they've beenwriting them sometime. I thought about doing
one and releasing it online. Madecontributions to someone's book a couple of months
ago. I don't know, weshould do one. We should do one,
we should do a book, weshould do one. Anyway, So
big shouts outs for all of youguys who have helped support this show for

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the past year and sent us somekind emails and some not so kind emails.
We always knew that this was goingto be a big do we have
some examples of that? We have, well, I've got no Okay,
sorry, I know you threw amassive span of worksday. It's like crowbar
in my head, why did youdo that? Anyway, so the the

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show we always knew was going toget lots of fan mail or lots of
people emailing saying you got this wrong, and you said, voyager zags,
why did you do that? Andwe were right and you did, and
but a lot of you said thatyou like the show. And so we're
just gonna list out a few peoplehere basically who were quite a few people.

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Okay, apologies or in advance ifI pronounce anyone's name incorrectly, and
also apologies if I name you twice, because I don't know what your your
user name is on the forum,but you might get mentioned twice. Hey,
that's that makes for a good day. That does make for a good
day mentioned twice. I'll make itso Okay, So, first of all,
we got Andre ribulour. So we'regoing on good start here aka David

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Brasil Okay Brasil, Hello, Hello, thank you. Madeline Limn. Happy
birthday to her dad Martin Madeleine isAustralian. I believe are we're doing shout
out to people's birthdays now? No, it's just she wanted us. She
asked, especially if we could mentionher birthday. Yeah, she's thirteen and
she's she really likes to show.They do that at the end of The

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York Pantomime every year. Yeah.I'm actually hoping this year because we're going
on the seventeenth and my birthdays thenineteen, I'm kind of hoping my mom
and dad might get them to readoutmy birthday. Stephen Asselman akaa mad Stephen
aka the Redhead Barbarian. He's gota lot of aliases, this guy.
Thanks for the make It So remixwhich is now used at the start of

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the show. Remix of George Woodsmusic which is the next one. Who
thank you for the theme music again, George. Yes, I appreciate that.
Jim Graves, who is sending theoriginal series, I'm looking forward to
that. I'm looking forward to that. It hasn't arrived yet, but I
believe that's due to the postal strikesand backlogs. Don't get me started,

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don't get you started on that hellishweek of not delivering DVDs to people.
There are American listeners out there.Unfortunately, our postal service workers have decided
to revolt revolts against us. They'vegone postal. I did a little poking
into why they're actually striking, right, and they're really getting my backup now?
Right? Why? Well, atfirst they were striking because they weren't

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given the same pay rise as otherpublic sector workers. So I'm with them
there, Okay, that's okay,you should be you know, it's standard
pay rise, you should have that. And then they sort of were told,
well, you might have to dodifferent routes one day and some days
you people who sort for one postcodemight have to sort for another postcode.
So, in other words, youstand eight feet to the left of way
normally do your job and look fora different postcode when he sort letters.

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And they didn't like that. Theydidn't like change, so they weren't on
strike. Then they're on strike again, but not being paid when they were
on strike, right, you don'tget paid when you're on strike. Now,
that's what they're striking about. Butthat's just generally a rule you don't
get paid. One would imagine they'renot being paid for this further strike either.
No, anyway, right, soyeah, thank you very much.

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Jim hasn't arrived yet, but I'msure it will surely. Andrew Mayron,
who wrote the longest email in history. Yes he did. I remember that
that one. Yeah, the longestemail early in history, and it had
his work signature at the bottom,which made me think maybe he'd really been
wasting a lot of his company's time. You don't work hard enough. But

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then again, he works for alaw firm, so fair enough. I
think he did anyway. Josh Greally, Jennifer A. Smith, a law
clerk, another law clerk from aplace called Orlando, Orlando, Florida.
I don't know, just somewhere calledOrlando. I just wanted a funny name.
Well, because it's like Orlando bloomthat was where I was going.

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We're known for disliking it. Soyou live in a city were dislike because
of its name. Stephen kazon Nistrum, who some of you know, he's
really yes, all over the placeand Brandon and Chris Pearson, who couldn't
believe we raised a star trek forso lowly and start on the first episode.

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We slated it well, I continueto slays it. We uslated it
as well because you fell in linelike the small monkey you are. Yeah,
so anyway, Harvey White, whothinks the show rocks and he's right.
Robert Maltz. Robert malt who wasobviously fast becoming the show's on unofficial
producer of his show suggestions Johnny Wilson, who listens without the geek shame,

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which is good. You should listenwithout shame. Yeah, it's good.
It's good for you. Yeah.A chap called someone might be a chat
might be a lady, I'm notsure. Called read reads wheel him win
him how it was spelling read re a D like read a book like

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read a book with an E onthe end. All right, interesting name.
Donated thirty dollars to the show,so many thanks, thank you very
much. Okay, Eric p Ikikson, this is just this is no Chris
Morrow, Steve Cogswell, who knowsfar too much about William Shatner's hair,
Lexi Tambury, no Jay Soon HansonNika, who needs to learn not to

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swear in his emails so much.Keith Dudley, Alistair S. Morris,
someone called Chili Bags and just becausetheir email was chili Bags and they refused
to sign their name. Rod Hudson, Mike Cummings, who wants us to
do a Buffy Angel podcast. Unfortunatelythere aren't enough hours in the day.
Otherwise we might well do that.I wouldn't want to do it, but
you'd have to find someone else todo that way. There's a secure audience

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for it, though, Richard,You've got to appreciate that they're already one.
Probably Scott, but we do itbetter. Scott Newland, Robert Meyers
Burnett, the director of Free Enterprise, who we're still hoping to get onto
this show at some point in touchwith him. You Llewellen, or ian
from Lincolnshire. Sean Glowaski, thewho's a mum of three umber three m

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three number three listens to this show. Isn't that nice? Blake Ericson thinks
voyage is actually good where you're wrong. Dave Wilson, Matt Kendrick, Benjamin
Foughton made us use an intro tune, but made us an intro tune,
but to use the next Gen musicunfortunately, so we couldn't use it because
it's not royalty. Have you gotthe name of the person who did the

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latest one, because the name escapesme from you the latest remix of the
thing? Yeah, I told youat the beginning of the Stephen, Oh
sorry, yes, we've already saidit. Un maybe lose I played Joshua
Tiger Tiger Yeah, Elizabeth Feldman,James Roberts, who donated the entire series
of Next Gen, thank you onceagain. James our physicist, Scott Reynolds,

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Sergeant S. W. Foster.He thinks he loves it when we
say yeah in a card voice.Yeah, yeah, I must be drawn.
Yeah, so that's for you.I actually cut myself saying that to
myself as I was walking around thehouse this afternoon. Yeah. I was,
yeah, preparing to bath the stinkbomb that was my dog this afternoon,

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and yeah, I just cut myself. Closing, Picard felt quite strange
about that. I've got Star Trekto reps fair enough. Eric Barger,
Matt Harper, Cody Knox, Devot, who demoted all the Space gave the
gift of Star Trek gave the giftof Star Trek. Thank you so much,
Cody once again, Kenny love it. Who's love of the podcast.

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Loves the podcast, Richard, thatwas what he He's just telling me that
he loves the pocas. Yeah,not saying that he doesn't love you,
loves the podcast, loves you.Apparently. I don't do anything on the
show. You do a lot ofthis show, Mike, Amanda Fisher,
Simon Denson, Neil Girl GROSSI yeah, this is embarrassing. Mike Cummins,

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who asks was voyage or even relevantany No? No, no, David
Frank Goans, William E. Hart, Paul Stoneman, Barry Hughes for the
Star Trek three soundtrack, which hesent me, and everyone else who sent
me a copy, thank you verymuch, stops standing me it. I'm
still getting cups, still guessing.Someone keeps sending me the MP threes of

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it. It's like, it's verykind of you by Habard already. I'm
sorry I haven't said this before.Okay, So from the that's the emails.
I'm sorry if we missed anyone,but there's a lot of them.
For them last year forums, Iam stupid. Jason Robot for his amazing
photoshop manipulations. Really, you havefar too much time in your hands,
but I love them. Really.Yeah yeah, Coney Toronto, Daven the

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Brig, which is brilliant. Whata brilliant names like that? Shows been
listening, You've been paying attention,done your research, Mecca, Karen,
Trevor Allen, Treky Geek, Blarythe End Conspiracy. Can I just jump
in? You mentioned Treky Geeks.Yeah, he actually did send us a
birthday message, did he? Yeah? On the voicemail all right, And

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I think he was a bit pissedwhen he did it, So I'm not
I'm not going to insert it intothe show, right, okay, because
he seems like a nice guy andI don't want to be that horrible to
him, but thank you for that. He but he just he sang his
happy birthday and it was instantly Barkleywent fucking ape ship when I played it.
So here we go just saying thedoctor bad Will Riker, that's good,

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that's bad Will Riker, Tom Riker, Maybe yeah, good doctor the
doctor. E blanc Kaoten Blashner.I can't pronounce that. Edward. Mister
love ants, mister Love the Ants. Sorry, Bronco Happensstance, Hope,
Potato, Little shack Walker, jailon Trapper John one two one oh I

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R W nineteen seventy three, M. D. Craig sixty two. Really
this is the thing with four umnames. Yeah, this is hard Matt
Christo Lazer, mad Max Sunday andwho is more deep? And that one
I got? Who is more adeep? Well he's Paul yeah, from
aracusum or no, not from Aracus, from that other planet. He went

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to Iracus and became more deep anyway, other show, different sci fi franchise,
not rather than me or anything todo it. June so June,
oh god, yeah. So anyway, look there's things NB yeah and a
half. That was June. DavidLynch, who gave him money to make

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films. I don't know, buthe does some good ones every now and
then. It's just when people givehim money he sucks up. I've done
this for you, but it's Dune. Oh no, David, oh no.
And should have done Return of theJedi anyway. Meetings that must have
taken place, that's almost a podcastwe were talking about early today. Alce

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and I were talking about the meetingthat must have taken place, When they
brought in the theme, she intowhat was it for your eyes only?
And played it to the producers forthe first time. You know, this
is like a James Bond film withexplosions and falling off cliffs and people being

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shot, and this is this isnot really a song that goes with that
in any way. It's a bitwet. And then some of us sound
next week, next week. Wecan't just write a new song again.
We'll have to go. We've donethe filming with the swirly women in silhouette.
We can't do it again. Andthat's it. Now we have your

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eyes grown meetings that must have takenplace. Ye. Sorry, played the
voyage of theme tune for the firsttime. This is a bit boring.
It's not rousing, is it?All the others were quite sort of rousing
rousing. This is kind of likewet. This is gonna be, It's

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gonna bearing and nothing's going to happen. They're out cheap, i'd be.
I'm willing to watch them again.And if I watch them again and they
are genuinely good, I will comeon this show and go you know what,
I've watched Voyager and it's good willyou eat your words. I will
give you a nu and a nullof words them and you'll eat them.

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Yes, i'd like to see that. It wouldn't be very interesting. Ultimately,
I think it would be quite interestingto see you choke on paper.
Anyway, I chew the paper.Why would I have to choke on No,
you'd have to swallow a whole Shutup, let's move on. Okay,
So the topic. The two peopleout there, you nutters who were
just listed off and all the restof you, thank you so much for

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listening to this show. And you'velistened to the show, You've spent over
the hours about fifty hours maybe takegive a take, probably more like thirty
hours. Actually, I'd love toknow how many hours we've done, generally
collectively over the last two and ahalf years frightening them out, um wow,

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frightening them out. So, yeah, you've listened to god knows how
many hours of Richard and myself ramblingon about Star Trek and the various ins
and outs of it, and youhaven't stopped listening. And that makes you
mad basically in many ways. Inmany ways, it makes you insane,
possibly makes us more insane for doingit. In the first place. But

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hey, we kind of hold handsup to that. We're a bit you
know, we're crazy, man,So that's that's just us. But you
guys are all nuts as well.Or maybe that you just really really have
boring commutes. I don't know oneof the two. Lots of people really
like Star Trek, lots of peoplelove what we What we're really talking about

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here is is the fans of StarTrek. Yeah, and the weird and
crazy things they do. The wordand crazy things they do. Now,
these range from little subtle things,I'm sure to really fucking stupid things.
Well, just had an email theother day from one of our listeners,

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yeah probably listen listed, who senta picture of his wife wearing a oh
yes, yes, I got theoriginal series Starfflet uniform and sent it to
make us jealous. That's somewhere inthe middle, right, Okay, somewhere
say that's that's middle of the road. Because dressing up and even dressing up
as a genre of Star Trek fandomhas its scale of craziness. Yes,

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because it's one thing to put ona Starfleet uniform and it's another thing to
become a cling on. And somepeople become clingons and they're crazy. Yeah,
okay, but I'm sure they havefun doing it, And is that
not the point of all of this? Probably doing it because people are having
fun. But it's a bit crazybecause as much as we go on about

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it, and as much as welove it, it's just a TV show.
It's not real. It's just aTV show. Wouldn't you like it
to be? Oh so much?No? You know, no, two
ways about it. I want StarTrek, Steve Jobs. What are you
doing? What are you doing aboutthis? What are you doing about actively
working towards making Star Trek becoming thepresident of the Federation. I don't.

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That's something different. I should befine by me. I don't. As
long as you ran on a mandateof a Mac for everyone, I'd be
happy. You'd vote for anyone onthe ground. As you got given a
free Mac, you could take awayas many civil liberties as you want.
Just give me everything. And justto put that into some context, we're

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recording on a Mac. How howold is that Mac? How long have
you you had that that new MacPro? Three three weeks? Yea,
three weeks. I started looking atnew ones again after two years, and
I was getting those little glances fromAlice and don't need one, you know,
Yeah, I do have the lowestspect one though. It's fine,

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I know, it's how much Iknow that is the computer you had before.
I know it doesn't bear thinking about. No, it doesn't. Now,
well you still want another one?Well, I suppose, but just
what I want to keep that one? I just want to want more of
just wanting more of them. Yeah, you'd never say no to anything that's
free, especially if it's worth twogrand. You can at least sell it

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on eBay, that's true. Ortwo unsuspecting friends, pointless and boring.
So let's carry on the So thepeople who dress up, there's a range,
yeah, okay, and I thinkyou know it ranges from okay,
you're a big fan to a bitcrazy. Wait, yes, I suppose
we have a sub subgenre of dressingup okay, of people who aren't necessarily

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dressing up like characters or species fromthe programs, but are wearing star memorabilia
so to speak. Yeah, okay, shirts with mister spark on, all
the logos, all that sort ofthing. I had a Star Trek Baseball
Cup when I was I had afew things I had to Live Long and

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prosper mister spark Shirt and the entireopening monologue of Next Gen. I had
the phaser as well. Yeah,I had the phaser. We've we we
did, we didn't we did aboutthings we did part one, didn't do
a part two. Yeah, wewere going to do the about what everyone
else well, which we've we've got, we've got all about to do at
some point in the future. We'llhave to go back to find out which

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one, as we did part onesof and yeah, there were a few
which we said we'll do a parttwo and never got around to. Somebody
might have put it on the Wikipediapage. We have to do that before
one of us dies. So,yeah, it does it technically carrying a
toy chrick order or the phaser thatsort of counters almost dressing. I would
certainly may believe in trying well pretendthat you but you were, say carrying

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one, I mean having one andcarrying it with one at all times.
Yeah, are two different things.It's quite young at the time, and
we used to we used to takethe dogs for long walks in the woods
and my brother and I used tohave phaser fights. Say Star Trek,
Yeah, that's is how old twelvetwelve? Yeah, my brother was ten,

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so you know, you kind ofwhen you've got a younger civil you
kind of play down to them.I was into drinking girls by twelve.
Yeah, driving cars, fine,planes, I was into all that too.
But I still like to have agood old play fight. Yeah,
who are we kidding? If wethought we could get away with it,
you and I would be having playphase of fights now probably, let's be

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honest. So I'm not going togo down that road anymore. We don't
do that instantly, ladies and gentlemen. That doesn't happen only on Sundays.
And we tried ones who broke thegirl I can't remember. Yeah, anyway,
freak anyway, So that interressing ifit actually made the proper phaser of
fact as well, but didn't hurtyou, just knocked you a little bit.

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Okay, they've got a stune settingpissed you just have a great time.
That would so happen at parties.Yeah, everyone's really pissed. Phases
on the lightest stunt zap Oh,your little bastard, I'm going to get
zap back, and it would stinga bit fine. Two guys like standing
opposite each other taking shots, andyou know, and it's time someone can't

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finish the drink or something like that. They gets the blast of the and
then it goes up a little bitand eventually that's only ends in tears of
vapor news story about a drunk.That would be what happened. It would
be all the rest of the worldwould use it responsibly. In British drunk
and huligans would end up vaporizing eachother and the world would be a safer
place. So yes, yes,yes it would, Yes it would anyway.

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So that's the clothing people. Okay, they're a bit crazy, but
the full blown becoming a card,becoming a Kardassian. People will do that.
Really, I bet there are peoplewho'd like to dress up as Kardassians.
And if you can do it convincingly, I bet it's a grin.
I really want to send a bunchof people, just as Ferengie into Wall

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Street and into the whole massive stockon a long shot was just a long
you know, all of that salsalth and then all these guys in different
colored shirts and everything, and thenthe Ferengie troupe all sitting around, you
know, counting up with a little. I would love the just to be
Ferengie walking around anyway. Yeah,I would love to go outside and have

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all the species that the Star Trekuniverse integrated within us society. That would
be wonderful. The Borg ok,except the bad ones and the Dominion like
Federation and Earth. That would begood. That would be good Federation.
Yeah. The dressing up people moversinto another subgenre of crazy fans using the

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subgenre a lot. That's my line, I know. That's why I'm doing
it to piss me off. It'snot work. It's not working. No,
as we'll see it by the endof the show. If it made
me lose my tech now, yes, yes, I remember dressing up people
leaders into Yes, the people whohave cruise cruise cruise okay as a cr

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ews right, the plural of crew, right, as in they are a
group of people who hang out andact like they are in fact the crew
of a starship. So one ofthem is their captain and they have not

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heard about these guys. You musthave seen these You've you've We've had emails
from people that have been signed captainof whatever crew and stuff like that,
and that I find a bit weird. Well, I mean, if it's
all it's all play, isn't it. I mean it's all make believe.
I mean, what do they dotogether? The difference right when it becomes

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when it goes too far is whenyou actually believe it. That's okay.
Yeah, when you actually think whenyou can't go to work without taking your
communicator, which you or pretending yourmobile is actually yeah, yeah, then
you might maybe have psychological issues thatyou need to resolve with a therapist and

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maybe want to seek help from oneof those guys. It's just the idea
of extending a rank hierarchy system intoyour social life. It's quite it's very
strange. It is very strange.I mean, you and I are equals
in terms of our friendship group.I can't really tell you what to do.
No, I can't really demand thatyou do anything yourself. Well,

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this is it. We can telland demand of my fuck off. You're
not doing it. No, youdon't have to do it, really,
but I can tell you too.You can, but I'm not going to.
I'm a bit upset with myself.That fuck off was the first instruction
that came to mind. Yeah,I'm quite upset with you. I just
said leave the room. Yeah,jump up and down, Yeah, make

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some coffee. Oh actually if youwould no, okay, um, but
yeah. Being in the crew,I can see the social aspect of it.
Well, I can see the maybelieve aspect of it. I can
see the fun of it as well, in terms of you know especially.
But the problem from my point ofview is don't you want to be the
captain? Well? Yeah, whatwho? What did? What did the

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captain do to deserve being the captain? I would the subordinate? Actually it
would be a democratically we're going.But yeah, but captains are promoted.
I mean that's what happens. Lookat you wear up the ranks. How
ship would it be if in theeyes of your friends you're only an ensign?
Yeah? Well I think they cannotorder you around if you're young,

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If you're like the young and agroup of friends, then I can see
I can see how that is.Or if you're just one of those sort
of people like Craig who needs tobe wound up every now and then to
make him go in that way thatonly Craig can do and is only so
easy to wind up, then youdo you can do that. I mean,
Craig good how to be the ensign, wouldn't he? Oh, of

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course, of course he would exactly, So maybe it's that sort of person.
Instantly he comes to that of ourgroup of friends, who's the ensign?
Do you know who Craig is now? Is the trainee engineer? That
Scott. He's always shouting at theright tool for the right job, and
all that he's bundling away. He'sgot to talk it with a hammer and

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he's knocking on bits in secretly justwanted to be a guitarist, that's it.
Yeah, he's singing away to himself. If people aren't looking, he'll
play his hammer like a guitar,Yeah, and sing a little Brian Allams
guitar solo to himself. But spendsScott. He'll keep cash and years in
the sonic shower, get back towork. Yeah. What was that?
Was that Scottish accent? That wasawful? That was terrible. Don't replay

(30:25):
that. That was Richard. Thatwas Mike. That was Richard. That
was Richard. Did that? Youcan't prove otherwise Mike did that. There's
no one here and they heard um. I think it was quite conclusively me
yes anyway, so I mean yeah, okay, well yeah, well how
do you decide the hierarchy? Imean maybe one of these guys who is
a captain of these crews would tellus how how is this decided? Is

(30:48):
it democratic? Are you elect it? Maybe you are just do you just
naturally fall into the position of beingwebsite captain for Crewe? You have to
to do an exam. I don'tknow. May interesting. I find like
to do that. I find it. Did you do the which Star Trek
character you are? Test? That'son the forum? I don't remember.

(31:11):
There's one. I've done so many. I've had so many people tell me
which one I am, and somany different things tell me which I am?
I don't know. That was aninteresting test. I did it,
someone posted on the forum. Idid it twice. I did it once
with the answers that I'd like tothink, oh myself, and then I
did it honestly, and both timesit came out John Lee Piccard, which
is nice. You want to beJohn Lupe Piccard. Well, no,

(31:33):
no, in terms of you know, when you ask you a question,
are you this, this, this, and this? Wow? I have
this really and you're not You're moreof that, but you know you do
it. So I did it oncedishonestly with myself and then once honestly and
it came back with the same thinganyway. So I wonder if it always
just says piccard No, because otherpeople who have had other things on it.

(31:53):
So I don't know. Do youknow what could have happened? They
could have all got piccard and Iwant so they come on the I was
riker. We'll get you to doit afterwards and see what you come up
with. We will, We'll dothat. Yeah, I should be cute.
No, yes, you should becauseyou're so immature. But my biggest

(32:15):
question about the crew people, Yeah, what did they do missions? What
the fuck does that mean we'll domissions? I mean, did they explore?
They don't explore. They hang aroundat someone's house at night as a
crew hanging around at someone's house,that must be it. Or they all

(32:37):
just get together and pretend that they'rebeing on Star Trek. Wouldn't it be
great if it was like crew,Like you had a crew, Like,
yeah, every Friday night you gottogether with your crew and everything and hang
around and did the Star trekky stuffand watched a few films and things like
that, and gathered up mission dataand did all these things. And there

(32:58):
was another rival gang of cling Yeah, who attack your house on Friday night,
smash in the windows and beat theliving shits out of you and then
run out again. That would makea comedy sketch show, wouldn't it.
That would be brilliant. I'd liketo instigate in some way Star Trek based
gang warfare throughout this country. Let'shave gangs of staffleet officers, of Cleanlunders

(33:22):
of Cardassians beating the shit out ofeach other in the streets, with lots
of known Star Trek fans working rassgoing fu you know all the ship they
put on breakfast news in the morningthese days, headline would be all over
the fucking news. A group ofClean smashed a group of staffleet officers in

(33:43):
Sheffield last night. That would makeyour day. Yeah, you'd go to
work with a big grin on yourface that day. I can tell you
kind of like it was sci fiwarped version of Fight Club. It is.
That's exactly what it should be,like a real secret group as well,
sci Fi fight Club. Yeah,we need to get to some conventions
and start putting the word out aboutthat. Yeah, just go to all

(34:06):
just go as a convention. Youdressed as a staff, the officer me
dressed as a clinger, and webeat the ships out of each other,
fights just as a vulcan and beatsthe crap out of both of us because
he's five times stronger, and welet him because he's supposed to be.
Yes, this idea is almost toogood anyway, So start franchises the world

(34:30):
over. We can make a fortunewith this. We could sell videos of
its staff fleet fight start on theinternet. We will pay homeless people to
dress up in start the fleet andcling on uniforms and have fights, and
we'll film it and sell it online. This is good, isn't it?

(34:50):
This is good. This is brightwithin simply syndicated. This is this is
how idea has come about. Yeah, so you've got the proce us right
in front of you, there recordedfor everyone to hear. So the conventions,
right, you've never been to aconvention? No, I'd love to
go. I've never been to convention. I'd love to go to one,
just to see what it's like.Where are the conventions? Comic con Milton

(35:14):
Keynes when its advertising the back ofEmpire. Every few months, there's one
coming up. I think we shouldgo. We should do a panel,
a sci fi convention, a panel, a panel in front of people,
anime conventions, Yes, in frontof proNT take this to the people,

(35:35):
Mike on the streets. That's wherewe should take this show, nice and
comfortable and safe behind the microphone.And you've been behind the desk, you've
seen panels. Yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, be like that all
right, and we could talk aboutstar Trek and podcasting and it'd be awesome.
And people should write to conventions andsay you should get those Make It

(35:58):
So guys on and make it andpay them extortionate amounts of money. I
don't think we have to be paid. Well, no, and we think
of the publicity. That's true.Yeah, sells Make It So t shirt.
Maybe we'll have some of those soon. Maybe maybe we will. Maybe
we will have some nice our hostteacherships. Yeah, still waiting for them

(36:19):
now. I phoned him today.Might be picking them up in the morning,
all right. Actually at this point, no, I won't be,
because he hasn't phoned me to saycome and pick them up in the morning.
But you might phone me to saywhen I can go and get them
tomorrow, jolly good, so soon, And maybe one day we'll have postal
service again. Maybe I'll be ableto send them to people. That would
be nice. That'd be very nice. Yes, it would be much better
than me being told to get themout of bloody house all the time.

(36:43):
Yeah, so there you go.We've covered. We've could the dressing up
people, the crew people. We'venot talked about the people who build staffrek
in their house. Now there's theguy who spent an absolute fortune in England
making his house look and sound likethe Voyager Bridge. He did his entire

(37:08):
house, didn't he did. Ithink he did the entire house to the
point when it was now impossible tosell. I think he couldn't. He
couldn't get a buyer, and he'slooking to sell it. He couldn't get
by it. No one wants tobuy a house that looked like the Voyage.
I'd have it, I must admitI'd have it, but I wouldn't

(37:29):
want to live there. It's thesort of place you'd go and hang out
at. As long as you couldput sofa, it be all right.
That would be weird. Yeah,sofa on the Voyager bridge. Wouldn't you
have done that if you were imaginethat he stuck It would be kind of
a bit annoying, I wouldn't it. He's like, you've got a house
it looks like a Star Trek setand it's the Voyager Bridge. You ideally
want the comfy location of the nextgem bridge ideally or the room yet ops

(37:53):
mm hmm. It is big,big, that's sort of an orchestra hall.
That's that's what you are in aliving room with a transporter and a
massive viewscreen. Yeah, so youhave to large windows in the ceiling to
create a massive shot of light.How cool would that be? That would
be awesome. But he made hishouse look like Voyager. He's a nutter.

(38:15):
Did his wife leave him? Idon't know. Was he even married?
He probably listened to people's show whoare married have time to make their
house into Star Trek and what what? My god? Maybe if their wives
were in comas. Maybe I'm assumingtoo much. Maybe his wife's a massive
Star Trek family. Maybe there werethere were people in the local newspaper near

(38:37):
us who were in there because theyhad a Star Trek themed wedding. Ah.
Yeah, and didn't it look bad? Oh, it was terrible.
It was terrible. It looked likethey'd gotten married in Star Trek outfits made
from things in the room they werein when they decided to do it right,
and they were in the kitchen right. Really, that's what it looked

(38:59):
like. I wouldn't do that.No, personally, just me. No,
a major social event such as yourwedding, Well, it's a very
personal thing for people, isn't it. They wanted to be specific to them.
I understand it, fair enough,but I too massive sci fi.
Yeah, it would have to lookperfect though it Maybe that's just me.

(39:22):
Maybe I'm I'm just a bit tooperfectionist, but it No, I'd have
to look better than they did.Yeah, I'm sorry if you're listening,
I really am, and you know, but it looked awful. The Starfleet
dress uniforms are good, they looksmart, but they star Trek Ultimately,
it's a bit weird. Yeah,still a bit odd. Got you in

(39:45):
the paper on your wedding day,though, Yeah, which is always good
for a laugh. Yeah. Ithink my wedding, I'd like to have
the entire congregation dressed up as Xwing fighter pilots so it will be like
the end of sequence of Star Warstraitor. Oh god, I've just remembered
where I am. I'm sorry.That's a debate for another time. We

(40:08):
hunga did you Yeah? Is hedead now? I was wondering why there
hadn't been an album as you shouldhear, so is the rest of the
world. So they're coming, They'rejust awkward. I don't know. You
work with outside people. You seecontractors. See what happens to contractors?

(40:28):
Yeah? Yeah, where are wenow? Then with with Star Trek fans,
well, there's a lot of them. This is a this is another
big thing. Do you know what? They could make an army. We
could really do that. We couldand we could do it against nations with
the firepower we'd have. It makesyou wonder why isn't there a TV series

(40:51):
anymore? People are fucking watching.There must be enough core group of people
films coming. Simon Pega Scotty God. I think we need like a once
monthly update on what's happening with thismovie From now on, I've got to
Grik Banner as the villain. Ilike Eric Banner. There's no I didn't

(41:12):
believe it for a second, tobe honest, of what Eric Banner and
a Star Trek film. Fu.Yeah, there's nothing inherently wrong with Eric
Banner as such. He's probably anice guy and I like him in some
films, not in Troy, butthat was just a piece of shed anyway.
My problem is it's Star Trek.Yeah, don't be selling it to
me off the back of the namesof the people in it. Yeah,

(41:36):
right, it's it's Star Trek.Yeah, you've never needed this before.
No, I did not go andsee or buy any of the Star Trek
movies because William Shatner was in them. Now I bought one as he wasn't
in and I didn't buy those onesbecause Patrick Stewart's in them. Also in
the past, no one really wantedto be in them. I mean there
was rumors of Jude Law playing shinson in them certas like, yeah,

(42:00):
that's gonna fucking happen. Michael Jacksonwas supposed to be in First Contact.
Yeah right, that was going tohappen. He was going to be the
alien that landed. I don't know, we need something that they're gonna make
him a bit flatter and making oneof the computers. So I mean these
sort of things. Yeah, youshift celebritiesm and so that's why I'm a

(42:21):
bit Yeah, well I could seewhat I mean. Eric Banner is like
not massively massively famous. It's notlike they put Tom Cruise in the bar.
That would have been really upsetting.That would have been do you know
what the main problem with doing thisis you have with with all the original
series movies and all the next twomovies, you had a cast of actors
who had been working together for yearsand being that character, not necessarily for

(42:47):
all their careers for some of them, but a significant portion of time.
You know, that's what they do, and so when you want to make
the next movie, they all comeback. Yeah, but when your crew
is made up of various different celebritiespursuing their own individual careers and are doing

(43:08):
this merely as another job rather thanas it's been done before. Next time
we make a Star Trek movie,Simon PEG's busy and won't play Scottie,
well, they'll probably have him ropedinto some sort of congrat cora congrat congrat
speak contract chual obligations for at leasttwo sequels. So I wouldn't worry about

(43:30):
that past it. You see,is that what they're doing. That's what
they always do, matey, everymajor franchise film like this, you'll be
roped into Simon Peg can't afford notto do that. That's true. You
know, when you're Tom Cruise,you can turn around and say no,
I don't want to do Mission Impossiblethree. But he's not. He's Simon

(43:50):
Peg. So it's fine. Istill live in Hope. I think with
that sort of talent behind it,it could be good. I'm just thinking
at this stage should have been broughton as technical advisors, script advisors,
and we've not had an email yet. No for reference. Make it so
at simply syndicated dot com. Goto the fucking website. There's a contactor's

(44:14):
button, and we're usually less arrogant. So no, they they're really beginning
to scare me with all this stuffthat I'm here in a good place with
this movie star Trek. I needa letter from James Trek. I need
an email from JJ. Star Trek. First of all, explain to me
what the hell's first name actually is? JJ? And second of all,

(44:38):
J A Y j A Y whatlike Omber J Simpson JJ. I think
maybe it's it's two initials. Maybeit's Judas, Judas, Judas James,
Yes, James, Judas, JamesJudas. We're seeing a lot. But

(45:00):
I have to say, if you'relistening to this, mate, and if
you're making the next Star Trek movie, you better fucking be listening to this.
For God's sake, just just writeto me and go sorry. Rich,
you know is asking for a lot. I don't want money or to
actually be a technical vibe want to. I just want you to say,

(45:22):
I know what you're worried about,and I just know that I've taken those
things into account, and you don'tneed to be worried. I'm going to
make you a good movie and I'mnot going to destroy this thing that you
love so much. That's all Ineed. If you want to let me
be an extra and be killed bymy control panel halfway through a sentence,

(45:43):
I'd do that too. Yeah,or as as anyone got the roles for
Sula and check off yet, Yeah, yeah, okay the Oriental chap from
Harold and Kumar really, Oh JesusChrist, oh God, why are they
doing this? Tod my franchise?What are they doing? What are they

(46:07):
doing? That's gonna be all right, risk, it's gonna be all right,
all right, you're gonna have therest of your life to slag it
off. It's got Simon Peg,the rest of your life. Simon Peg,
who's one short year a Star Warsfan, one short year. Yeah,
he does lots of Star Trek referencesin space. I can't think of
any off the top of my headStar Trek. No, No, I'm

(46:30):
sure there is. He's all aboutthe Wars that man, there's a lot
of I mean, I know significantly. Yes, there's a lot of the
Wars in there, but he isalso about Star Trek, the fact that
neither of us are playing Kirk orSpark. It's it's just wrong, Mike.
No, No, it's injustice terrible. I was upset enough when I
wasn't picked to be the new JamesBond, but this just takes the pigs.

(46:55):
Daniel just be I'd better get itafter Daniel Craig. Yeah, that's
you're running out of time now,Richard. I'm not. I'm still young.
Time is running away. I'm stillyoung enough. You're thirty next year,
Roger. I'm not thirty next year. I'm twenty nine next year.
Yeah, still your thirteen. Twothousand and nine, your thirtieth birthday next

(47:15):
year, though, no, it'snot. It's this. No, it's
not. Don't you don't count thefirst one. So yeah, technically it
is my birthdays in January. Mybirthday next year will be in January.
I'll be twenty nine. No,yeah, but it will be technically your
thirtieth birthday. Well it yeah,you're counting right, zero zero year zero.

(47:37):
But I'm not thirty there, no, but it will be your right,
So let's not go spreading. Ijust like it's actual. It's nice.
Yeah, it's good. Yeah,it's fun. Yeah, so subgenre
of winding me up, the agewind up. It's much easier with you
though. Yeah, not as easyas Bevin, but it is easy.
Nothing's easy as winding up. It'slike he's got a handle on the side

(48:00):
to do it. Turning up.We're talking about Star Trek fans at all
sometimes, so some people make fanfiction, some people do that's not a
Star Trek only. No, it'snot a Star Trek on anything, but
it's very very on the going StarTrek. Yes. In fact, when

(48:22):
I was doing a little bit ofresearch for this show, I mean,
like the initials, shall we doa Star Trek show research, not any
clearly, we've never done any researchsince in a year, but initially and
finding out what other shows there were. Yeah, you type Star Trek into
iTunes and it comes back with quitea lot of things. And you go
just into a podcast and there's quitea few, and that all fan fiction,

(48:45):
with the exception of two other shows, Trek Talk and Trek Talk and
Treks in sci Fi. Yeah,but Treks and sci Fi is more of
a generic sci fi show. Itis. But from when, oh part
of me I Guestlyn when I listenedto him before, it was predominantly Star
Trek, mainly Star Trek, andhe did all the what was it the

(49:09):
commentary tracks as well with the audiocheeky monkey Monkey. In fact, I
think he's where other people got theidea to ask us to do it,
right, So there you go.But all the others are fan fiction.
They're all like Star Trek whatever we'vedecided, and Star Trek better than Voyager
and whatever, and they make themup. Maybe this is what crews do.

(49:32):
They dress up, they go aroundto each other's houses and they write
fan fiction and decorate their houses tolook like the Bridge of Voger that's what
we do. Yeah, I thinkwe're as a collective the biggest group of
fans generally, are we. I'mjust trying to think of other big,

(49:58):
nutter groups of fantasy. Well,other big groups of fans also cross over
with this group of not of fansinclude Lord of the Rings and Star Wars,
and I think that's it. Nowthere are I'm thinking. I think
those are the big three. I'vethinkt your Elvis fans. Ah, right,
you're thinking a bit more outside thebox. I'm thinking just in general,

(50:19):
in the big picture, big biggroups of people obsessed about something that
is indeed actually India curry, youknow, these sort of things then the
Indians. Actually, I thought wewere more curry, that's true than the
Indians actually, And that's not reallya fan base. People's more dress up
as a cheek and masala and agarlic nay, just well, some do.

(50:43):
I could murder that right now.Actually, yea, how you said
it out loud? That's horrible.I want one. What time is it.
You're a vegetarian. You can't havea chicken. I love a vegetarian
one where you can. But I'mvideo in it, all right. He
hate chicken. I saw look somethinglike now they meet in twenty years,

(51:05):
it'll taste fucking great. The onlything I missed chicken McNuggets mate. Oh,
I think it's a vegetarian. You'reperfectly safe with chicken McNuggets, or
indeed any product set the thick shakes, real beef packaging, Yes, Gerkins
to make the big Mac not adessert, great star hundred percent real beef.

(51:27):
Yes. Are we done with StarTrek fandom? Yeah? I think
we are. We're done that.People of films that films, yeah,
star Trek fans. Yeah, peoplehave made films about Star Trek film like
actual Star Trek fan films. Weheard any more about the one that crazy

(51:47):
looking and what was it called?God of gods and men of gods and
men? What are they doing thesedays? Can we bring them up quickly?
Yeah? That's on the thing.You are there, you're in the
captain's chair or at the con.What's the con short for? Is it
the console control? The control?I was going to say, because if

(52:10):
it was the console, then everyoneis at the console or some kind says
a lot of time, not usingthat last syllable. Well that's why American
Air Force pilots have have call signslike Maverick, which of course is easier
than saying Dave. I suppose youjust think the pilots with the more complicated

(52:32):
names would have call signs. Rodriguezwould have a call sign. I have
a call sign mephistopholies. That's sucha fucking pain to say. Yes,
that's why the control pilot mephist pullup, pull up, It's gonna be

(52:53):
great. Too late. She couldn'tget his name out. So there's a
lot of things about this. Doyou know what if you made mephistuff mephistuff
lease, and you had a friendon the same squadron who was called mephistuff
Lies, and so you had towait for that last syllabol to find out

(53:14):
which one you were talking about.That was just random drivel. Why you
brought up that website? That waswhere I got to go because we watched
Top Gun the other day, Aright still the gayest movie ever made.
That's true. There are gay palmfilms are heterosexual than there's Top Gun.
You can be my wing man.He's a trailer, is available to He's
a trailer. We've seen that.But what I want to know when when

(53:37):
the hell is it coming out?When did they start making it? Why?
I have not heard about this?They started making that before Voyager finished?
Not really? Is that a trailer? Is the first three minutes of
Act one? Oh god? No, maybe we should watch that afterwards.
Watched that afterwards. It's still playingthere. Um, so they're doing that.

(54:00):
I'm quite what's the u r lor the earl? Well, if
you just go to Google and fundmadeby the people who were in Star Trek
and haven't really done a lot ofwork since. Well, Walter Koinig's done
a furbit in Babylon five and stufflike that. And when did Bablon five

(54:20):
end? Good point, you justfeel like it wasn't long ago, because
if it was, you're older thanyou want to be. This is true.
There you go. Tim Russell wasand die Hard four that was this
year it was, and previous tothat Voyager. Yeah, but I only
ended like a long time ago,so it weren't paining enough to still be

(54:46):
living off Voyager wages. Surely,No, he's he must be doing conventions
and stuff like that. Yeah,I wonder how much Tuvok would be paid
for a good bit of fun.Annan Rock. What's he doing in there?
He was in Spin City for anumber of years. He was in
various Bueller's Day, Off Speed,He's been in loads of stuff. Well

(55:08):
he was. He was out ofplace in generations because he was actually a
big known actor. In my eye, I knew who he was. Yeah,
I recognized him. He was inYoungun's too with Keith for Southern.
He's only one who survives that film, isn't he? He does? Yeah,
he does like this, this issilly. Yeah, you're killed shooting

(55:30):
guns for no reason. Yeah,stop messing around, slap. So,
Yeah, they made a film,but they're not fans that that past the
franchise? Are you though? Yousee we're running. I think you're in
a gray area because you're either youknow, they don't own the rights to
Star Trek just because you were init. Bruce Willis can't go and make

(55:53):
Die Hard five just because he wantsto. That's true. You know,
Mark Hamill can't go and make seven, eight and nine of Star Wars.
Only George Lucas can do that.Only Paramount can go and make a proper
Star Trek movie. So I thinkwith all the logs, you know,

(56:13):
they've got the logos and the namesand everything and the ship. Yeah,
I wonder how they're not in trouble. Well maybe they're just being really nice
to them. Well, really,if they sued them, then there'd be
a lot of outcry, wouldn't there. There would be a bit you don't
want to stuff a massive pressure grouplike the Star Trek fans. Well,

(56:34):
why haven't we got ourselves a TVshow back? Where's our new TV show?
Yeah? This is what I want. You don't have to be new,
you don't have to be innovative.Just give me more Next Genera or
something like that. I'm happy withthat. That's really what I wanted,
you know, like with with Halothree, everybody was like, oh new

(56:54):
this new bollocks, new stuff.I didn't want new stuff. I just
wanted more levels of Halo two,which was when I just wanted more levels
of Halo one. And that's whatthey gave me, and I was very
pleased. Just give me more StarTrek. You don't have to be clever,
changed things, don't move stuff around. No, well I mean don't
clearly, don't just make more NextGen you know why not? Well,

(57:19):
many reasons that would great much morebecause you wouldn't have data, and if
you did, then you'd be hatingit so much anyway, true, and
he was getting old. They're allgetting up. Get us a new crew,
fair enough and that. But gointo the future. Let's go post
Es nine, please, post Voyager, post Nemesis, really, isn't it.

(57:40):
Let's go post Nemesis with a newcrew, a bit of a fantasier
ship, and we're happy. Youdon't need to go all Battlestar Galactica honors.
That's a different thing. Don't worryabout it. You're star Trek.
Email me JJ please, just justtwitching. Just let me know. Yeah,

(58:04):
and you, Mike can come tothe premiere in the UK. That's
not unreasonable. No, that's notunreasonable. The rest of it was.
Okay, So this has been episodefifty and make it so you've listened for
an entire year or some of youhave. Yeah, you have been very
naughty and not find us earlier.Yeah, I know you're not. Actually

(58:25):
it's blame for that. No,not in any way. Small. I'm
still going to and we should havebeen better. Have we got special things
planned for the next fifty episodes?No, we'll just like this. Yeah,
don't fix it, you know,exactly. But we always welcome constructive
feedback. Yeah, so get onthe forums. Emailers make it so simply

(58:46):
syndicated dot com? Did you getthat, JJ, you got that?
Yeah? Where's the forum again,Richard, simply syndicated dot com slash make
it slow slash forum. I'm noteven asking him for a phone call.
No, just an just an email. He doesn't even have to type it.
I just dictated to J Jane,could you please send this this this

(59:07):
guy an email, just tell themit's all right, that's all we want.
That would do me. That wouldbe all right, you know,
just don't worry about it. It'llbe fine, It'll be fine it.
Yeah, I'm thinking we're gonna it'sgonna be flashback dream sequence. It's gonna
be flashback. It's not gonna bedream sequence, which is fine. It's

(59:30):
fine. It's all good because it'sSimon Peg going to do a Scottish accent
hopefully is he going to do aScottish accent or is he going to do
Scotti doesn't have a Scottish accent.I will walk out. Email me,
don't worry about it. Joined theforum, Join the debate, Listen to
the fans about what they want.You're really you're not asked. You're not

(59:52):
being asked to make a new film. You're being asked to provide us with
what we want to say. Maybethat's what the crews doing. Maybe they're
focus groups. Hey, maybe weshould make one. Maybe we should join
one. I'm not joining one,No, remote one. We need to
make two because we both want tobe the captain. That's true. So
okay, okay, I begs youTristan. Oh, you can't take Tristan.

(01:00:14):
That leaves me with funny Mike shotgunAllison. Well I have Will then,
Okay, damn you think of Will. He's big and hard. Yeah,
yeah, there you go. Okay, okay, all right, all
right, it's on. Take it'son. Take you on, And because
you get to choose last, youget Bevan. Oh oh it's fine,

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So we'll throw him in first.Yeah, so we we'll both need something
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him as well. Yeah, wewelcome your feedback. As I said,
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can do everything. You can goonto the movies you should see blog.
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potoground. It's really not that complicated. I made it for God's sake.
Don't expect anything too complicated when youmake it. No, No, thank
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and supporting us for the last yearthat you continue to do so. If
we have failed to offend you inthis last hour, especially as we progress
now from Star Trek being available onstandard definition DVD being available on high definition
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really, yeah, interesting, mightbuy the player for that maybe. Okay,
thank you very much people, Byebye bye sh