Ep. 147 - The 'Mystery Behind the Nashville Shooting, Mrs. Harris Goes to Paris and Hollywood's Lessons to Learn' Edition

The 'Mystery Behind the Nashville Shooting, Mrs. Harris Goes to Paris and Hollywood's Lessons to Learn' Edition

Episode Transcript

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This is the FCB Podcast Network.Hey y'all, welcome back to another episode

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of Marble Halls and Cellar Screens.My name is Sarah Lee. I have
been away, but I am nowback, So I'm glad to be chatting
with you guys, or chatting atyou guys. I should say today,
UM, I hate the subject matterthat I'm going to talk about. UM.
I hope I don't start crying.I don't think I will. UM,
but we're going to talk about Nashville, and specifically we're going to talk

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or I'm going to talk about UM. Just we're at the point where I
think, you know, we saythis all the time. You see it
on both side of the aisle,do something. One side focuses on guns,
the other side focuses on, youknow, beefing up police presence and
schools and things like that. ButI think there's something else going on that

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we as a society are going tohave to start doing if we're going to
tackle what's been happening, particularly withour young people. I know, not
all mass shooting events are young people, but it seems to be becoming more
prevalent. And coupling that with whatwe've seen from Antifa and the Black Lives

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Matter movement recently down in Atlanta.I think we're going to have to start
talking about some things that are goingto be pretty uncomfortable, and I think
mostly uncomfortable for anybody interested in thepolitics of these things. And I don't
want to politicize it. I thinkthat's also part of the problem, that
we kind of dehumanize these events.But but politics we're going to come into

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play, so we'll talk a littlebit about that. From there, I'm
going to give you my thoughts ona just a charming, charming little film
called Missus Harris Goes to Paris.Hopefully that will be a little bit more
of uplifting part of the show afterthe very heavy topic of the Nashville shooting
at the Covenant School there in Nashville. And then finally, I want to

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talk just a little bit about Hollywood, because you know, I always try
to do that, that's what thisshow is about, after all, and
looking at their numbers for twenty twentytwo and again wondering if maybe they're going
to finally start getting the message,so sit tight. Well, we'll hear
a few words from our sponsors,and then when we come back, We'll

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jump into all of those things.Be right back, okay, and we're
back, hey, y'all, Solet's just jump right on in. Yesterday
there was as another mass casualty massshooting event at the Covenant School outside of

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Nashville, a private Presbyterian Christian school. The shooter, as we all now
know, it was a young woman, twenty eight year old woman named Audrey
Hale, and yes she was awoman. I'm not doing this dead naming
stuff. I'm not playing this gameanymore, and I think that that's part
of why where where we are withthis stuff. That is not to suggest

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that I don't respect people who havedecided to transition genders. I am extraordinarily
libertarian when it comes to letting peoplelive the way that they want to live.
But while this has been happening,where you know, we've kind of
gotten into a situation where society hasbeen we've been pushed essentially to normalize what

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is something that I think only avery small number of people actually are burdened
with gender dysphoria, right, It'snot a large number of people, and
those people should be allowed to findtheir bliss just like the rest of us.
There's something else happening with this sortof trans fad. It's only it's

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the only way I can it's whatit is. Um this incredible uptick in
the number of young people who areclaiming to be uh, you know,
questioning not just their sexuality, notjust who they you know, want to
sleep with, but who they actuallyare physically. That seems to me to

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be something altogether different than people whoare the small minority of people who actually
are you know, gender dysphoric,body dysphoric, a dysmorphic, I'm sorry,
dysmorphicum. So I have to question. And the reason of course that

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I'm bringing this up is that AudreyHale, the young woman who killed three
nine year old children and three sixtyyear old adults in this shooting before she
herself was shot by police, shotand killed, claimed to be transitioning to
a man. She used he himpronouns in her LinkedIn. If you look

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at the pictures of her post quotetransition, the rumors are she hadn't started
too far down that road yet.She looks just like a miserable, miserable
person. So I bring the transissue up because this is something I think

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there's something behind the connection between thefad of claiming gender gender dysphoria dysmorphia.
I can't I don't even know ifI'm saying the word right there, and
this kind of extreme anger and sometimesviolence of young people. The reporter,

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the independent journalist Andy know had puta tweet out yesterday where he mentioned that
it's been clear in his coverage ofAntifa that some of the most violent also
carry the largest some of the largestnumbers of people identifying as trans. So
there's something. I think at somepoint we're going to have to start acknowledging

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these links. Okay, we asa society are going to have to And
my question is there's something happening that'sradicalizing these kids. Now, I'm not
a conspiracy theorist, so I don'tthink it's easy to just point at one
thing and say it's that thing there. This seems to be a cultural phenomenon

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that's coming at them from a lotof different places. Glenn Greenwald also kind
of point did that out on Twitteryesterday after this happened, asking you know
who helped radicalize Audrey Hale, andhe said, you know, media.

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He pointed to a couple of differentthings, And I think that's right.
I don't think there's one thing.But the truth is there is a sickness
right now that is infecting our children. And I don't want to I don't
want anybody to think that I'm sayingthat it's got to do with being trans.
I think trans the decision to transition, is not the problem. It's

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a symptom of whatever's happening. AndI think that it's a fad that a
lot of young kids are adopting.As a matter of fact, if I
was genuinely trans, it might annoyme to watch all of this stuff going
on around me, like talk aboutcultural appropriation. Right, So, so

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yes, and and I don't.I don't know what the answer is.
I suspect it's you know, it'scoming from all corners of society. Audrey
Hale, and a colleague of mynetwork was very quick to when I was
talking about this with some work colleagues, to point out that, you know,

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Audrey herself was responsible for this,and I couldn't agree more. That's
that's very much true. The shootersare responsible. That's partly why I think
the dehumanization of it, where wehave decided as a society that we're not
going to talk about the shooters.We're not going to make them famous.
We're not gonna, you know,let copycat killers think that this is a
way to fame. It's actually beena mistake in my opinion. We should

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be talking about these killers. Weshould be talking about them in terms of
they chose the ultimate evil act.Had she survived, she would be a
pariah in society. We don't needto make this look attractive to copycats.
But we have to start talking aboutwhat is happening to these shooters, what's

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happening, how are they getting hereokay? And also discussing to the extent
that the families are comfortable with it, because I know, when you lose
someone that's a private affair, youdon't want to forget the victims in these
situations. You also want to namethem. You want to put faces to
them, You want to hold themup and chuck suppose their innocence against whatever

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is happening with these killers. Butbut the thing is is we're going to
have to do these hard things.We can't keep our heads in the sand
any longer. We've reached a pointwhere if we don't bring some balance back
to this, we're going to havesome I mean, we're already in deep
trouble, I think, and youguys know I tend to be optimistic,

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but this is a problem that Iyou know, we have to do something
drastic and quickly. I think Iknow that. I suspect that's partly why
the TikTok discussion is happening, becauseI think some of this radical radicalization is
happening online and I think TikTok's oneof those places. Um, of course,

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you want to tread cautiously. Youdon't want to overreach, you know,
you don't want to let people withbad intent use these crises to do
terrible things and take away civil liberties. And I know people like Tucker Carlson
and others have been talking about thatwith some of these TikTok band legislation stories.
This is this requires precision thinking,and I think that we still have

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people in our society that can dothat. But I think we've got to
do something because this just this.For some reason, this one just broke
my heart. I don't know why. Perhaps it was the fact that Audrey
was a woman. Perhaps it waswhich is just a rarity. Perhaps it

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was the fact that this was youknow, her former school, or that
she texted a former friend and essentiallyadmitted that this was just her suicide attempt.
But she she didn't. She choseto go out in a spray of
evil rather than seeking help. Andit's too late for her, you know,

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I mean, she's I'm not goingto talk about her any further in
this show except to say that shewas a lost child. And someone has
to radicalize these kids to know thatif you make these kinds of decisions,
there is no sympathy for you.Like it can't. We can't as a

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society have sympathy for you. Maybea nun can come to your dead man
walking moment if you're put to death, but that's the most that we can
do. And someone has to tellthese kids that that's where they're headed.
Um. I don't know what elseto say about it, but I think
we're gonna have to start getting superserious about it. And I'll say this

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again, I'm a Second Amendment proponent. It's not the guns, guys.
It's absolutely not this blood lust thatis happening. That is something that is
as a friend of mine put itat work, that is a sickness in
the soul and um, this youngwoman would have found a way to carry

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that out if guns didn't exist.So it's not the guns, it's not
the tool, and it's not legislationthat's been passed. This young woman is
responsible for her actions. But there'sthere's there's a cultural rot that I think
contributes to some of this, andwe've got to figure out what it is

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and start talking about it, allright. That is my way of sort
of exor sizing that demon. Itbroke my heart this story. And if
you haven't seen the video of thecops going in and neutralizing the shooter,
you should watch it. Um.It's not an easy watch. I broke
down in tears for a lot ofdifferent reasons, but it was in some

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ways a sign that society hasn't givenover given itself over to this just yet.
And um, and maybe there's hopefor us. Okay, So we're
going to leave that there. I'mgoing to take just a minute and I
wouldn't I wish you would as well, and just take a minute of silence
and just you know, in honorof however you want to spend it before

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I move on to the next phaseof the show, Thinking about those poor
little babies, um, that wereshot just at their school. It's it's
unbelievable to think about. And Isincerely hope that their families find some grace
and some healing. So I'm goingto give you guys a few just a
minute to think about that, andwe'll move on. Okay, So that

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was about thirty seconds, not quitea minute, half a minute, but
we'll move on from there. Isaw a charming little film and I wanted
to maybe be a little more upliftingand light of just how awful yesterday was.
It's called Missus Harris Goes to Paris, and it is a lovely film.
If you ever, it's definitely achick flick. I'm just gonna say

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that off the top, although Ido think men would enjoy it. Frankly,
I think that it's u It's justit's just got a charm and a
it's it's not I wouldn't call itedgy, but it's got enough of an
edge that it's not pandering or youknow, um so saccharin that a man

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would just be like, uh,yeah, no thanks. Um. It's
it's quite charming and quite good.It kind of reminded me in style and
tone and a little bit in subjectmatter of the film Chuck a Lot,
which was just a fantastic film fromthe nineties. I want to say the
nineties that if you haven't seen thatone, you should definitely see that one.

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You know, it's one of JohnnyDepp's better roles. And I think
was it was it Juliette Bino showsthat who the actress was, and she's
wonderful in it. Anyway. SoMissus Harris goes to Paris. The plot
is a war widow who gets awar pension very late after her like thirteen
years after she finds out her husbandwas killed in action World War two would

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have, is enchanted by a ChristianDior dress and decides to save up money
to go to Paris and buy avery expensive Christian Dior dress. And so
what this movie kind of artfully doesis it combines the truth of what was
going on with Christian Dior, thecompany at the time, with this charming,

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you know, fictional narrative of thishouse cleaner who you know, has
just discovered that the husband she's beenyou know without for thirteen years, but
never quite could accept that he hadbeen killed in action until she finally gets
to notice has a new life now, right, She's finally been given her

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freedom from her mourning. So sothat's what she decides to do is to
buy a dress at Christian Dior.And it's just a lovely film if you
like fashion too. There's a ChristianDior sort of fashion show that's just I
was like, oh my god,I mean his nineteen forties work, who
is just stunning. Um. Iwas just like, wow, I want

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that and that and that and that. Um. But it's also a story
about sort of infectious optimism and howuh Missus Harris you know, sort of
fights for it herself, and howin her fighting for it she brings it
to other people. Uh. Thefashion house underwent a sort of ready to

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wear change at this time. Um. And the sort of narrative um structure
is that Missus Harris may have hadsomething to do with that. UM.
It's also got um you know,some sort of interesting you know side um

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plots where Missus Harris has this friendin England who's a you know, he's
he's he takes the money at thetrack at the dog track. Okay,
I don't know what they're I guessit's not bookie but um, and they've
got this lovely friendship. But youknow, she's this widow in mourning who's
never been really sure if her husbandwas coming back or not. And that

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gentleman is played by Jason Isaacs,who if you are a Harry Potter fan,
you know him as Draco Malfoy's father, and he's just I just love
I love Jason Isaacs. I've likedhim and everything I've ever seen, and
he usually plays a villain the betterknown roles i've seen him, and he's
a villain. I think he wasgreat in The Patriot as the villain,
but in this one he's this justadorable Irish guy right with these two dogs,

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so he's great in it. LeslieManfield Manville, who you know.
The interesting trivia about her is thatshe was once married to Oldman Gary Oldman
has at his name. And she'sbeautiful in this and I like her also
as an actress. She's given interviewsbefore about growing old gracefully and you can

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tell she's not one to go outand have a bunch of work done,
but she's absolutely beautiful. So I'mjust a huge fan of hers. And
then you know, another little pieceof interesting trivia. Here is Alba Baptista,
who plays the young love interest inthis film. The young model in
Paris is actually dating our beloved ChrisEvans so in real life. So this

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is an interesting film, both youknow, in the sort of Hollywood sense
and then in just the film sense. Like I said, just in tone
and style. It sort of remindsme of Chuckle Lot. It's very Parisian,
it's very French, but in asort of lighthearted way. And at
the same time it's lighthearted and beautiful. But this is happening apparently when a

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you know, garbage collector strike ishappening. Oh and there's also the politics
of all of that too, whichyou guys know my politics. I know.
I think this one guy in thefilm is like, I'm a communist.
I'm on their side, so youknow how I feel about all that.
But life is what it is,right, So you know, if
you can't handle differences of opinion,then I don't know what to tell you.

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So this one, you know,there's a strike going on, so
there's garbage all over the street everywhere, So it's it's got a little bit
of an edge to it, butit's as a woman. I found it,
and as a woman of a certainage, I found it to be
speaking to something innately female that wego through as women that I don't think

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men necessarily totally grasp, although Ithink that when they're when it's given to
them in a narrative style like this, they appreciate it. So it's a
very fine little film, and Ithink maybe you should watch it, even
if you know. I think it'sit's perfectly appropriate for young kids. I
don't know if they might be kindof bored by it, but a teenage

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girl might like it. And Ithink, men, this is the kind
of movie I wish men would watchbecause it's it's got sort of a female
point of view, but it's notone that is, you know, banging
you over the head with you know, my my, my feminism or whatever.

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It's it's very quietly, strongly female, and I liked it a lot.
So missus Harris goes to Paris seeit. It's streaming on Amazon Prime
right now. Okay, finally,let's talk just a little bit and then
I will wrap it up for you. There's a really interesting article in I
saw it in the Epic Times,but I think the actual reporting on it

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is anywhere, you could probably findit anywhere. It's basically talking about how
the the the amount of money thatHollywood has lost, and this just covers
twenty twenty two, but it's somethinglike five hundred billion in market value.
And that's not just feature films andstudio like theaters. That's through streaming and

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all other Disney apparently really really faredpoorly. But at the same time this
was happening, you saw films likeTop Gun Maverick grossing seven hundred and eighteen
million at the US box office alone. So it's not that people have for

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you know, our foregoing filmmaking.It's that they don't like what's being offered
to them and they're not watching it. And at some point, yeah,
it says one hundred and twenty billionof those losses, those five hundred billion
in market value came from one hundredand twenty of it alone came from Disney.

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So at some point, I've gotto believe that the sort of entire
holistic, sort of Hollywood industry isgoing to have to start figuring this out
or they are going to cease tobe I mean, you're already seeing that
industry sort of spreading out into otherstates leaving California. Gavin Newsom's like trying

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to extend tax breaks and things likethat to keep them there, while at
the same time saying, but yougot to do the diversity hiring and all
of this stuff, and you know, they're just not quite learning the lesson.
And I think I think it's gotto be a little bit tough for
the creative class because they are soliberal that they really just only know how

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to give you what they are right, like their truth there are whatever.
The problem for Hollywood though, isthat they don't let any other voices in,
so that other kind of offering certainlyout there there are writers and directors
and filmmakers and actors and all thosepeople that are a little more conservative or

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even just a little more to thecenter and not so progressive liberal. It's
just that Hollywood shuts their doors tothose people. And I think they're going
to have to open them up orthey are going to die. And that's
it. That's my show for today. If you want to read this Eparch
Times article, I will put iton the on the column um. I

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will also, of course do thetrailer for Missus Harris Ghost Paris. It's
charming, charming. I liked itso much. I might watch it again.
UM, And then I don't.I don't know if I want to
share much more than what's already outthere on the Nashville shooting. UM,
so I may leave that off.You can find that stuff on your own.
It's it's really too hard for meto even I'm about to cry again.

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It's too hard for me to evenreally want to share it. UM.
But I but I did want tomake the point that it's it's beyond
too late. We've got to startdealing with this stuff now, and we
have to do it UM cautiously andwith precision thinking and U not overreach and
certainly not which hunt, and notdemonize a segment of our population. UM

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who you know identifies a certain way, because this radicalization is happening to our
children. UM, we have tobe compassionate and kind and thoughtful in how
we do it. And I justwanted to make that a part of this
show today. As always, takecare of yourselves, take care of each

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other, be safe, be kind, be strong, be brave. And
we will certainly talk again in acouple of weeks from the psychiatric ward ard,

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