January 29, 2025 • 29 mins
In this episode, Paul will talk about his all-time hero, other than his father, Mr. Nikila Tesla. Paul takes a deep dive into what he would think Tesla would think of where we are today. Did we achieve his dreams and desires, and do we think he would approve of the way we produce energy and sell it today. Well join Paul for this great walk into the mind of Tesla.
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Like today's podcast. Uh.
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And today's podcast is interesting because it is titled Nikola
Tesla Today.
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Would he be amazed or would he be annoyed? Hmmm?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
For all of you Nikola Tesla fans out there, I
am obviously a big Nikola Tesla nerd uh, And so
again all things Nikola Tesla, we have to be thankful
in it was brilliant mind. And if you're not familiar
with who I am, my name is Paul Abernathy. I
am the CEO and founder of Electrical Code Academy. I
am the host for the Mastering NC podcast. UH and
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and we're going to deep dive a little bit today
in the world of electricity technology and of course the great.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Minds who who shaped it.
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If you're not familiar with who I am, I've served
on various code panels, Code Panels seventeen and Code Panel
five for the National Electrical Code. I serve as as
excerpt witness to cases. I am available for expert witness
work as well. I have written numerous blogs, numerous books,
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served on various UL committees, NIMA committees and things through
the years. Through my nearly forty years of in the business,
and I've learned to think or two and also owning
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multiple electric contracting bisiness is getting my hands dirty. I
was electricians electrician, I worked in the trenches. Me and
my brother built a company up and I ended up
branching off and doing my own company and had two
separate electric contracting businesses, one in Virginia, one in Texas,
and so I bring a diverse background as well as
being ahead of jurisdictions. I was the engineer too for
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I oversaw plans, examiners and inspections. And then there's also
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Before I left both of those jobs and went to
work with NIMA, the National Electrical Manufacturer Association, So I
got to work with a bunch of manufacturers.
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So I have a diverse background.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
So hopefully you check out our shows, you'll see my
background kind of comes to light depending on what the
topic is that we're talking about. Now today we are
talking about the fascinating journey into the mind of Nikola
Tesla arguably the greatest inventor the world has ever seen.
Now you all know, I believe Tesla is one of
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the best things since sliced bread. Right his contributions to
the electrical engineering industry, the microwave transmission industry, the radio
waves transmission, all those things. This man was so far
ahead of his time. We're still trying to catch up
with the ideas that he had bouncing around in that
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magnificent brain of his. Over a century later, we are
still trying to uncover the things that this man knew.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
But here's a question.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
If you think about today, here we are, we're in
twenty twenty five, and if we could see the if
Tesla could see today, if he was alive today, if
he could see how technology is evolved, what's happened in electricity,
the electrification of our country, the wireless communications, even the
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artificial intelligence, which I have no doubt that he would
be mesmer rised with and had been somewhere in the picture,
if he had still been around involved in that. What
about the renewable energies and wind generation, solar cells, batteries, all.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
These type of things. How would he feel about it?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
In fact, what do you think he'd think of the
Tesla vehicle today? Would he like his name to be
used on that vehicle?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
You know?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Would he be thrilled? Would he be like, I don't
know about all that? Or would he be slamming his
head against the table in frustration, like what have y'all done?
Where are y'all going? You're losing the basic core fundamentals
and things like that. So we're going to break it
down a little bit, piece by piece and kind of.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Give you my thoughts.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
And we got to buckle up because you know, this
one's going to be kind of a deep dive and
what our thoughts may be on what Tesla might think today,
And again, your opinions may vary. You might agree to
disagree in some of the things that we're going to
talk about, and that is perfectly okay as well. That's
your prerogative, and I'm going to kind of give it
to you from my perspective, thinking about somebody who's been
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in the electrical industry quite a few years and how
I see things, and I'll try to look through the.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Lens of Nikola Tesla.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Right now, the first thing we talk about is Tesla's
dream versus today's kind of reality.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
What would he love, I mean, what would he like
about today?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Well, I think the first stuff, the first thing we
want to talk about one is global electrification.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Tesla's dream actually was realized.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Okay, so when we talk about his big dream, universal
access to electricity, and let's be real, he would be amazed.
When Tesla was wondering and working in the late eighteen hundreds,
electricity was really a luxury. Only the very few had it,
and so he wanted to bring it to the masses.
Now today it is a necessity. You need it, from
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charging our phones to obviously with some people charging their cars.
It's our laptops, our computers, everything of all is around electricity.
So almost every part of the world today has access
to electricity in some form.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
That's huge.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
And when you think about things like what Elon Musk
is doing and with the Internet and the ability to
get information at anywhere with the starlink and other types
of things like that, it's just kind of making it
us realize that Tesla was kind of really massively ahead
of the curve here. So Tesla actually believed that energy
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should be accessible to all people, and that was one
of the things that he was really focused on, regardless
of what class you are, what wealth you are, where
you're located in the world. So today that's mostly true, Okay,
that our homes are businesses, entire economies run on electricity,
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and Tesla's work with AC power distribution is a big
reason why you do see a big insurgence of DC.
But again, if you think about the workhourse of our
houses or manufacturing and everything, it's still AC power and
this is greatly due to Tesla. So when you think
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of that, check Tesla would be very happy about this one.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I believe.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I believe he would love the fact that everybody has
access to electricity. It is a global electrification. I think
he would love that. Next thing is, let's talk about
the wireless revolution. Tesla's vision for wireless energy now something
that would make Tesla's jaw drop, I believe even today.
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I think it would be the wireless technology that we
have now. Tesla envisioned a world where power, not just communication,
but actual electrical power could be transmitted without any wires.
And while we haven't quite achieved that, look at what
we do have. We've got why five, We've got blue tooth,
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We've got class four fault managed systems that can send
power long distances and step it back up. We've got
satellite communications with Starlink. We got radio waves that are
being sending out across continents. We got wireless charging. We
even have wireless charging for ev vehicles now where you
just pull over the charging pod. How many of you
have your phone where you just sit it on top
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of a little pod and it charges us inductively.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
All of those.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Type of things really harping back to what Tesla's vision
was a wireless revolution.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
So there's there's no doubt in my mind that he
would not be amazed by all these things.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Now, Tesla's fingerprints are all over this modern wireless technology.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Okay, imagine today, it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Imagine if you handed Tesla a smartphone, said hey, Nikola,
this thing fits in your pocket, connects me to the
entire world and works without a single wire. You know
for fact, you do, you know his mind would be
freaking blown now, of course me and you know that
he if he was still around, he'd have his fingerprint
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on all that stuff as well, not just the early stages,
which he does, but he would have his pulse on
the development advancement, and I just think he would be tickled.
But let's not forget Tuesla was working on wireless power
transmission at Wardencliffe Tower. This was one of his things
that people did not buy into. But he was working
on the ability to harness the power to transmit wireless
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power throughout the world, and so he created the Wardencliffe Tower.
But the funding got pulled on that and stopped his
work way too soon.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Now, he wanted to beam electricity through the air.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
And while we're not quite there yet, researchers have experimented
with wireless electricity today. So I think he'd be thrilled
to see we're at least working on it and there
are ways to transmit it across our atmosphere. And I
think we'll be there one day, probably not to the
level that he wanted to be, but I think we'll
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be there in maybe close proximities, local connect interconnected towers,
things like that could come.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
And again we owe all that back to the vision
of Tesla.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Now, the next thing that I think probably would would
would really blow his mind would be electric vehicles. Now,
you got to remember Tesla motors and the ev revolution. Now,
how about these electric cars.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Would he would?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
He loved Tesla Motors. What do you think he'd think
of Elon Musk? I think you would love him as
a visionary. He probably would approve of the name.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I'm sure. I don't know why he wouldn't, but oh
you bet. In fact, I'd.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Argue that naming the electric vehicle company after Tesla is
one of the most fitting tributes to his legacy.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I'm not lying. Now.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
He envisioned a world where vehicles weren't reliant on gasoline.
And what do we got now? We have an entire
industry moving towards EV.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Granted, the recent mandates for EV have been lifted, and
I think that's a good thing because I think having
an EV vehicle electrical vehicle, that's a choice. It should
not be imposed on anybody. That's a choice, and I
think Tesla would agree to that. That you got to
have choices, and that's what we're all about.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Choices. But let me hit you with the little Tesla trivia.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Did you know that back in nineteen thirty one, Tesla
already had an electric car prototype. Did you know that
there's even a legend that he powered it wirelessly? Now,
the details on that are murky, but one thing is clear.
Tesla saw the future and today we're living it. So
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Tesla motors.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah, Yeah, I think he'd be thrilled. I think he'd
love it.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
I think he'd loved the concept, and I think him
and Elon Musk would be amazing friends, amazing minds. The
next thing that we think about that, and when you
think of Tesla is where we've come through the years
with renewable energy, the options that we have, the future
of Tesla that he envisioned. Now, let's talk about something
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that Tesla was deeply passionate about, and that was harnessing
natural energy. This was something that Tesla had a real
drive for and obviously Wardencliffe would be a tower, would
be one of the things that's kind of pushing towards
that concept.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
But he believed that the Earth itself was a giant
energy source.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Now, he once said, I quote, if we use fuel
to get our power, we are living on borrowed time.
But if we use the natural energy around us, we
can power civilization indefinitely.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Think about that. Let that sink in.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
If something happens naturally, a reoccurring a field, a magnetic
field that we can harness, then it is always there, right,
But also think about that and think, well, wait a minute.
When he made that statement, we're talking about guess what.
We have solar, we have wind, we have hydroelectric, we
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even have fusion research going on, if we have nuclear power.
That result of a reaction to all these type of
things make you think that Tesla was right here. He
was like, Okay, I get it. You know, we're living
on borrow time, and it is kind of funny. I
don't know if you were kind of somebody that watches
TV shows, but there's a TV show on that's called
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land Man and it is an amazing show. It's on
Paramount and it's Billy Bob Thornton stars in it. I
was never a big Billy Bob Thornton fan, but I
you know, but I've become a fan of his now
that I go back and with with the renewed interest.
Look at the parts, not talking about all the way
back sling.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Blade and got no gas in it.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
No, I'm talking about his recent work and I look
at it, you know, kind of excluding Santa, the one
he did with Santa Claus in it. Bad Santa or
whatever could throw that one out because I don't understand
that that was just dumb. But getting rid of all that,
I love it in land Man because he makes a
statement or he points out something in there that we're
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going to run out of fossil fuels at some point,
probably not in my lifetime, probably not in your lifetime,
but at some point we will, and we have our
whole industry is built on this fossil fuel. Now that
doesn't mean that I am pro one hundred percent ev
solar wind, all these type of things, but I am
a believer that we have to make sure that we
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evolve and that we don't rely one hundred percent on
these things like gas oils, that type of stuff, Okay,
because if we do, then if we're worried about that
kind of fuel source, then we are living on a
borrow of time. But we can certainly do things to
augment that we can add. That's why I was never
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a believer in all PV. I was never a believer
in all wind. I'm not a believer in all I'm
a believer in moderation means you need a little of this,
you need a little of that, you need a little
of this, mix it all together and that's why I'm
a big believer when it comes to EV vehicles. I'm
a believer in hybrids. I think that it's a little
bit of fuel and a little bit of electric vehicle.
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I think it's a beautiful thing. I think that the
if all of the manufacturer had gone down that road,
then it would have been easier accepted to the industry
rather than just mandating EV. I think that they had
it right with the vehicles like the Vault that does
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Of gas and EV.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
That way, we're sipping our fossil fuels rather than guzzling
our fossil fuels.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
That's just my thought.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Doesn't mean I'm right, but I'm just saying that's my
thought on the concept. And I would like to think
Tess a little bit think the same way, even though
he's an electrical guy like me and like you, but
I think he would think that that way. Now, if
you think about it today, we do have solar, wind,
hydro electric, we have fusion going on, we have nuclear.
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We're starting to figure out how power the world in
a way that doesn't destroy the planet, and we can
supplement the energy that we do have. Okay, Tesla would
absolutely I believe, in my mind support this in every way.
He wanted free, limitless energy for humanity, and we're making
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real strides towards that. So I think that he would
be one hundred percent on board with that to day,
that's my opinion. I think he would be doing a
little dance with his pigeons and that he would love it. Now,
when we think about these things, that's the stuff that
Tesla would love. Let's think about the things that would
probably drive Nikola Tesla crazy, right, So one of the
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things that would probably drive him crazy, and again this
happened with the Rockefellers and it continues on is corporate
control of energy.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
It's the same old story, all right. So let's shift
his gears.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Would Tesla be one hundred percent happy with today's world, No,
he would be. Let's start with one of the biggest frustrations,
and that was big business controlling energy. Tesla fought against Edison,
he fought against JP Morgan and others who wanted to
own electricity.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Tesla believed in free energy for all.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
That's the reason he started the Warden Cleft project because
he believed that he could harness this naturally and create
a recurring energy that would never expire and it would
be free for everybody. That was his mission, that was
his desire. But he also understood there were limitations in that.
So that's why I think he would be happy with
some of the ways we are today. He would not
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have achieved one hundred percent. I mean, you can just
look at your electric build and realize that we're not
achieving that goal. But he did fight those big titans
of industry who wanted to just simply over monetize things
right now again, Tesla believed in free energy for all.
But today electricity is still a business. It's run by
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massive corporations that charge people every single month just to
keep the lights on. I did see something where somebody
had posted on a next door or other platform about
their electric bill being so high.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
You know, it can come from many things.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Improperly working heat pump if you've got it, so it's
going into emergency heat because it's gotten so cold. When
it is cold, you're going to pay more money. Resistance
heating is going to cost a lot more money. Heat
pumps only work down to a certain level before they
become inefficient, so your bills are going to be higher.
And of course who's the recipient of this. It's obviously
going to be the power company. Now, don't get me wrong,
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I understand infrastructure costs money, and I can tell you
Tesla would hate the idea of energy as a commodity
instead of a fundamental, fundamental human right. I think that
it would drive him crazy to that because that's what
he wants.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Now.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Again, he doesn't work for the utility, doesn't work for
that money making machine, and it's probably why he had
not a lot of money. That's probably why he made
bad deals early on these type of things, because he
was looking at the good in trying to bring it
to humanity. Now, if he saw today's energy companies, I
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think he'd be shaking his head saying, this is not
what I had in mind originally. I think that's what
he would be saying, although I think that he would
come to understand it.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
It is something that he can't change.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
But I think that he would be very outspoken about it,
and I think that he would say that he doesn't
think this is the right model that the energy should
be for the people. That type of thing, so I
think that's what it would be.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
The next thing.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I think they would drive him crazy is the lack
of true wireless power right. Tesla worked for years to
prove it was possible, But here we are in twenty
twenty five, we're still plugging things into the wall. Wireless
charging is cool, and we have it, but it's not exactly.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
What he envisioned in his mind.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
And now there have been some recent developments MIT and
other researchers have demonstrated wireless power transfer at short distances.
We see that power transfer when we do our phone
to those little charging blocks. It doesn't have to be
plugged in, but the other end has to be plugged
into something.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
But there's been a lot of work being done on this.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
But Tesla truly wanted power towers transmitting electricity across continents.
We're way behind on that dream, and I think that
would really frustrate him. I think he would be like,
here we are, one hundred years later, why haven't we
achieved this, some of the greatest minds in a world.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Why.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
I think that would bug him a little bit, drive
him a little bit crazy on that part of it. Now,
the other thing he did not realize is the continued
reliance on fossil fuels today. I think his whole goal
of the time was how he wanted to electrify and
make things electric and make it available and affordable to
everybody everywhere. But I think Tesla saw a future in
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limitless clean energy. But today we're still burning coal. We're
still burning oil and gas to power much of the world. Yes,
renewables are growing, and we're all for that, but fossil
fuels are still a dominant energy source and we really
can't get away from it because it drives our industry.
We can be better conservatives of it, but it drives
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our energy, it drives our source, and I think that
would make it frustrating for Tesla. Tesla would see that
and think, really, you guys had over one hundred years
and you still burning stuff for energy.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
I think that's what That's what probably would be.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Knowing the concepts of what Tesla wanted and all the
time he spent on the Warden Cliff and all that
type of stuff and what he was trying to develop,
I think at the end of the day, he'd be
still going, dude, really, really, we got to burn fossil
fuels in order to get our energy. I think that's
where he would be because he didn't know anything about
nuclear at the time. Okay, I think he would like
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that concept.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
He'd be a little worried.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
About the environmental concerns on that, but I think he
would be all for that. Now, let's do some final
thoughts here before we wrap it up on this episode.
Let's think about Tesla's verdict.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
On the modern world. All right, So what is the
final verdict?
Speaker 3 (24:25):
If Tesla were alive today, would he be impressed or frustrated? Honestly,
I think he'd be about seventy percent amazed and thirty
percent annoyed.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
He'd loved the electricity.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
He'd loved that electricity is available to everybody everywhere. He'd
be blown away by the wireless communication, the electric vehicles,
and where we've gotten today. He would love these concepts
of renewable energy. I think he would just wrap his
arms around those things. But he'd be disappointed that energy
is still controlled by these few major corporations and that
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wireless power isn't fully realized yet. But we're getting there,
but we're just not there yet, and I think that
would discourage him, and that we're still dealing with outdated
fossil fuel systems or we haven't developed a way to
slow down the use of fossil fuels while incorporating other
renewable sources. I think, for example, like I said, I
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think he would be all on board with like, hey, look,
if you don't go all ev that you have half
and half that you have hybrids.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Hybrids are the way to go.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Personally, even me as electrician who loves electricity, but I'm
a big believer in fossil fuel vehicles and things, I
still believe that a hybrid is the way to go. Okay,
I just think that we need to have a little
bit of both in our vehicles.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Now.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
They got to make it so that those batteries aren't
so damn expensive. When you've got to replace a battery
and it costs more than the vehicle itself, that's a problem.
So again, to make all this make sense, there has
to be a happy medium that type of thing. But
here's the thing, Tyson Tesla wouldn't just sit around and complain.
If he were alive today, and you and I both
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know that he would still be in the lab somewhere.
He'd be working on some new invention, trying to push
humanity forward like he always did, because that's who he is.
A visionary, a dreamer, a relentless innovator. Right, He's not
a follower, He's a leader.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
He always was.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
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I want to leave a legacy where I'm teaching people,
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I certainly no Nikola Tesla. I do have patents like
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topic is that we're talking about. Now today we are
talking about the fascinating journey into the mind of Nikola
Tesla arguably the greatest inventor the world has ever seen.
Now you all know, I believe Tesla is one of
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the best things since sliced bread. Right his contributions to
the electrical engineering industry, the microwave transmission industry, the radio
waves transmission, all those things. This man was so far
ahead of his time. We're still trying to catch up
with the ideas that he had bouncing around in that
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magnificent brain of his. Over a century later, we are
still trying to uncover the things that this man knew.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
But here's a question.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
If you think about today, here we are, we're in
twenty twenty five, and if we could see the if
Tesla could see today, if he was alive today, if
he could see how technology is evolved, what's happened in electricity,
the electrification of our country, the wireless communications, even the
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artificial intelligence, which I have no doubt that he would
be mesmer rised with and had been somewhere in the picture,
if he had still been around involved in that. What
about the renewable energies and wind generation, solar cells, batteries, all.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
These type of things. How would he feel about it?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
In fact, what do you think he'd think of the
Tesla vehicle today? Would he like his name to be
used on that vehicle?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
You know?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Would he be thrilled? Would he be like, I don't
know about all that? Or would he be slamming his
head against the table in frustration, like what have y'all done?
Where are y'all going? You're losing the basic core fundamentals
and things like that. So we're going to break it
down a little bit, piece by piece and kind of.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Give you my thoughts.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
And we got to buckle up because you know, this
one's going to be kind of a deep dive and
what our thoughts may be on what Tesla might think today,
And again, your opinions may vary. You might agree to
disagree in some of the things that we're going to
talk about, and that is perfectly okay as well. That's
your prerogative, and I'm going to kind of give it
to you from my perspective, thinking about somebody who's been
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in the electrical industry quite a few years and how
I see things, and I'll try to look through the.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Lens of Nikola Tesla.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Right now, the first thing we talk about is Tesla's
dream versus today's kind of reality.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
What would he love, I mean, what would he like
about today?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Well, I think the first stuff, the first thing we
want to talk about one is global electrification.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Tesla's dream actually was realized.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Okay, so when we talk about his big dream, universal
access to electricity, and let's be real, he would be amazed.
When Tesla was wondering and working in the late eighteen hundreds,
electricity was really a luxury. Only the very few had it,
and so he wanted to bring it to the masses.
Now today it is a necessity. You need it, from
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charging our phones to obviously with some people charging their cars.
It's our laptops, our computers, everything of all is around electricity.
So almost every part of the world today has access
to electricity in some form.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
That's huge.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
And when you think about things like what Elon Musk
is doing and with the Internet and the ability to
get information at anywhere with the starlink and other types
of things like that, it's just kind of making it
us realize that Tesla was kind of really massively ahead
of the curve here. So Tesla actually believed that energy
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should be accessible to all people, and that was one
of the things that he was really focused on, regardless
of what class you are, what wealth you are, where
you're located in the world. So today that's mostly true, Okay,
that our homes are businesses, entire economies run on electricity,
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and Tesla's work with AC power distribution is a big
reason why you do see a big insurgence of DC.
But again, if you think about the workhourse of our
houses or manufacturing and everything, it's still AC power and
this is greatly due to Tesla. So when you think
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of that, check Tesla would be very happy about this one.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I believe.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I believe he would love the fact that everybody has
access to electricity. It is a global electrification. I think
he would love that. Next thing is, let's talk about
the wireless revolution. Tesla's vision for wireless energy now something
that would make Tesla's jaw drop, I believe even today.
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I think it would be the wireless technology that we
have now. Tesla envisioned a world where power, not just communication,
but actual electrical power could be transmitted without any wires.
And while we haven't quite achieved that, look at what
we do have. We've got why five, We've got blue tooth,
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We've got class four fault managed systems that can send
power long distances and step it back up. We've got
satellite communications with Starlink. We got radio waves that are
being sending out across continents. We got wireless charging. We
even have wireless charging for ev vehicles now where you
just pull over the charging pod. How many of you
have your phone where you just sit it on top
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of a little pod and it charges us inductively.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
All of those.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Type of things really harping back to what Tesla's vision
was a wireless revolution.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
So there's there's no doubt in my mind that he
would not be amazed by all these things.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Now, Tesla's fingerprints are all over this modern wireless technology.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Okay, imagine today, it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Imagine if you handed Tesla a smartphone, said hey, Nikola,
this thing fits in your pocket, connects me to the
entire world and works without a single wire. You know
for fact, you do, you know his mind would be
freaking blown now, of course me and you know that
he if he was still around, he'd have his fingerprint
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on all that stuff as well, not just the early stages,
which he does, but he would have his pulse on
the development advancement, and I just think he would be tickled.
But let's not forget Tuesla was working on wireless power
transmission at Wardencliffe Tower. This was one of his things
that people did not buy into. But he was working
on the ability to harness the power to transmit wireless
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power throughout the world, and so he created the Wardencliffe Tower.
But the funding got pulled on that and stopped his
work way too soon.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Now, he wanted to beam electricity through the air.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
And while we're not quite there yet, researchers have experimented
with wireless electricity today. So I think he'd be thrilled
to see we're at least working on it and there
are ways to transmit it across our atmosphere. And I
think we'll be there one day, probably not to the
level that he wanted to be, but I think we'll
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be there in maybe close proximities, local connect interconnected towers,
things like that could come.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
And again we owe all that back to the vision
of Tesla.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Now, the next thing that I think probably would would
would really blow his mind would be electric vehicles. Now,
you got to remember Tesla motors and the ev revolution. Now,
how about these electric cars.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Would he would?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
He loved Tesla Motors. What do you think he'd think
of Elon Musk? I think you would love him as
a visionary. He probably would approve of the name.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I'm sure. I don't know why he wouldn't, but oh
you bet. In fact, I'd.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Argue that naming the electric vehicle company after Tesla is
one of the most fitting tributes to his legacy.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I'm not lying. Now.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
He envisioned a world where vehicles weren't reliant on gasoline.
And what do we got now? We have an entire
industry moving towards EV.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Granted, the recent mandates for EV have been lifted, and
I think that's a good thing because I think having
an EV vehicle electrical vehicle, that's a choice. It should
not be imposed on anybody. That's a choice, and I
think Tesla would agree to that. That you got to
have choices, and that's what we're all about.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Choices. But let me hit you with the little Tesla trivia.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Did you know that back in nineteen thirty one, Tesla
already had an electric car prototype. Did you know that
there's even a legend that he powered it wirelessly? Now,
the details on that are murky, but one thing is clear.
Tesla saw the future and today we're living it. So
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Tesla motors.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah, Yeah, I think he'd be thrilled. I think he'd
love it.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
I think he'd loved the concept, and I think him
and Elon Musk would be amazing friends, amazing minds. The
next thing that we think about that, and when you
think of Tesla is where we've come through the years
with renewable energy, the options that we have, the future
of Tesla that he envisioned. Now, let's talk about something
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that Tesla was deeply passionate about, and that was harnessing
natural energy. This was something that Tesla had a real
drive for and obviously Wardencliffe would be a tower, would
be one of the things that's kind of pushing towards
that concept.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
But he believed that the Earth itself was a giant
energy source.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Now, he once said, I quote, if we use fuel
to get our power, we are living on borrowed time.
But if we use the natural energy around us, we
can power civilization indefinitely.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Think about that. Let that sink in.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
If something happens naturally, a reoccurring a field, a magnetic
field that we can harness, then it is always there, right,
But also think about that and think, well, wait a minute.
When he made that statement, we're talking about guess what.
We have solar, we have wind, we have hydroelectric, we
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even have fusion research going on, if we have nuclear power.
That result of a reaction to all these type of
things make you think that Tesla was right here. He
was like, Okay, I get it. You know, we're living
on borrow time, and it is kind of funny. I
don't know if you were kind of somebody that watches
TV shows, but there's a TV show on that's called
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land Man and it is an amazing show. It's on
Paramount and it's Billy Bob Thornton stars in it. I
was never a big Billy Bob Thornton fan, but I
you know, but I've become a fan of his now
that I go back and with with the renewed interest.
Look at the parts, not talking about all the way
back sling.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Blade and got no gas in it.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
No, I'm talking about his recent work and I look
at it, you know, kind of excluding Santa, the one
he did with Santa Claus in it. Bad Santa or
whatever could throw that one out because I don't understand
that that was just dumb. But getting rid of all that,
I love it in land Man because he makes a
statement or he points out something in there that we're
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going to run out of fossil fuels at some point,
probably not in my lifetime, probably not in your lifetime,
but at some point we will, and we have our
whole industry is built on this fossil fuel. Now that
doesn't mean that I am pro one hundred percent ev
solar wind, all these type of things, but I am
a believer that we have to make sure that we
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evolve and that we don't rely one hundred percent on
these things like gas oils, that type of stuff, Okay,
because if we do, then if we're worried about that
kind of fuel source, then we are living on a
borrow of time. But we can certainly do things to
augment that we can add. That's why I was never
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a believer in all PV. I was never a believer
in all wind. I'm not a believer in all I'm
a believer in moderation means you need a little of this,
you need a little of that, you need a little
of this, mix it all together and that's why I'm
a big believer when it comes to EV vehicles. I'm
a believer in hybrids. I think that it's a little
bit of fuel and a little bit of electric vehicle.
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I think it's a beautiful thing. I think that the
if all of the manufacturer had gone down that road,
then it would have been easier accepted to the industry
rather than just mandating EV. I think that they had
it right with the vehicles like the Vault that does
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Of gas and EV.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
That way, we're sipping our fossil fuels rather than guzzling
our fossil fuels.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
That's just my thought.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Doesn't mean I'm right, but I'm just saying that's my
thought on the concept. And I would like to think
Tess a little bit think the same way, even though
he's an electrical guy like me and like you, but
I think he would think that that way. Now, if
you think about it today, we do have solar, wind,
hydro electric, we have fusion going on, we have nuclear.
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We're starting to figure out how power the world in
a way that doesn't destroy the planet, and we can
supplement the energy that we do have. Okay, Tesla would
absolutely I believe, in my mind support this in every way.
He wanted free, limitless energy for humanity, and we're making
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real strides towards that. So I think that he would
be one hundred percent on board with that to day,
that's my opinion. I think he would be doing a
little dance with his pigeons and that he would love it. Now,
when we think about these things, that's the stuff that
Tesla would love. Let's think about the things that would
probably drive Nikola Tesla crazy, right, So one of the
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things that would probably drive him crazy, and again this
happened with the Rockefellers and it continues on is corporate
control of energy.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
It's the same old story, all right. So let's shift
his gears.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Would Tesla be one hundred percent happy with today's world, No,
he would be. Let's start with one of the biggest frustrations,
and that was big business controlling energy. Tesla fought against Edison,
he fought against JP Morgan and others who wanted to
own electricity.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Tesla believed in free energy for all.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
That's the reason he started the Warden Cleft project because
he believed that he could harness this naturally and create
a recurring energy that would never expire and it would
be free for everybody. That was his mission, that was
his desire. But he also understood there were limitations in that.
So that's why I think he would be happy with
some of the ways we are today. He would not
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have achieved one hundred percent. I mean, you can just
look at your electric build and realize that we're not
achieving that goal. But he did fight those big titans
of industry who wanted to just simply over monetize things
right now again, Tesla believed in free energy for all.
But today electricity is still a business. It's run by
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massive corporations that charge people every single month just to
keep the lights on. I did see something where somebody
had posted on a next door or other platform about
their electric bill being so high.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
You know, it can come from many things.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Improperly working heat pump if you've got it, so it's
going into emergency heat because it's gotten so cold. When
it is cold, you're going to pay more money. Resistance
heating is going to cost a lot more money. Heat
pumps only work down to a certain level before they
become inefficient, so your bills are going to be higher.
And of course who's the recipient of this. It's obviously
going to be the power company. Now, don't get me wrong,
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I understand infrastructure costs money, and I can tell you
Tesla would hate the idea of energy as a commodity
instead of a fundamental, fundamental human right. I think that
it would drive him crazy to that because that's what
he wants.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Now.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Again, he doesn't work for the utility, doesn't work for
that money making machine, and it's probably why he had
not a lot of money. That's probably why he made
bad deals early on these type of things, because he
was looking at the good in trying to bring it
to humanity. Now, if he saw today's energy companies, I
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think he'd be shaking his head saying, this is not
what I had in mind originally. I think that's what
he would be saying, although I think that he would
come to understand it.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
It is something that he can't change.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
But I think that he would be very outspoken about it,
and I think that he would say that he doesn't
think this is the right model that the energy should
be for the people. That type of thing, so I
think that's what it would be.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
The next thing.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I think they would drive him crazy is the lack
of true wireless power right. Tesla worked for years to
prove it was possible, But here we are in twenty
twenty five, we're still plugging things into the wall. Wireless
charging is cool, and we have it, but it's not exactly.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
What he envisioned in his mind.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
And now there have been some recent developments MIT and
other researchers have demonstrated wireless power transfer at short distances.
We see that power transfer when we do our phone
to those little charging blocks. It doesn't have to be
plugged in, but the other end has to be plugged
into something.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
But there's been a lot of work being done on this.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
But Tesla truly wanted power towers transmitting electricity across continents.
We're way behind on that dream, and I think that
would really frustrate him. I think he would be like,
here we are, one hundred years later, why haven't we
achieved this, some of the greatest minds in a world.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Why.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
I think that would bug him a little bit, drive
him a little bit crazy on that part of it. Now,
the other thing he did not realize is the continued
reliance on fossil fuels today. I think his whole goal
of the time was how he wanted to electrify and
make things electric and make it available and affordable to
everybody everywhere. But I think Tesla saw a future in
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limitless clean energy. But today we're still burning coal. We're
still burning oil and gas to power much of the world. Yes,
renewables are growing, and we're all for that, but fossil
fuels are still a dominant energy source and we really
can't get away from it because it drives our industry.
We can be better conservatives of it, but it drives
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our energy, it drives our source, and I think that
would make it frustrating for Tesla. Tesla would see that
and think, really, you guys had over one hundred years
and you still burning stuff for energy.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
I think that's what That's what probably would be.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Knowing the concepts of what Tesla wanted and all the
time he spent on the Warden Cliff and all that
type of stuff and what he was trying to develop,
I think at the end of the day, he'd be
still going, dude, really, really, we got to burn fossil
fuels in order to get our energy. I think that's
where he would be because he didn't know anything about
nuclear at the time. Okay, I think he would like
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that concept.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
He'd be a little worried.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
About the environmental concerns on that, but I think he
would be all for that. Now, let's do some final
thoughts here before we wrap it up on this episode.
Let's think about Tesla's verdict.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
On the modern world. All right, So what is the
final verdict?
Speaker 3 (24:25):
If Tesla were alive today, would he be impressed or frustrated? Honestly,
I think he'd be about seventy percent amazed and thirty
percent annoyed.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
He'd loved the electricity.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
He'd loved that electricity is available to everybody everywhere. He'd
be blown away by the wireless communication, the electric vehicles,
and where we've gotten today. He would love these concepts
of renewable energy. I think he would just wrap his
arms around those things. But he'd be disappointed that energy
is still controlled by these few major corporations and that
(24:59):
wireless power isn't fully realized yet. But we're getting there,
but we're just not there yet, and I think that
would discourage him, and that we're still dealing with outdated
fossil fuel systems or we haven't developed a way to
slow down the use of fossil fuels while incorporating other
renewable sources. I think, for example, like I said, I
(25:20):
think he would be all on board with like, hey, look,
if you don't go all ev that you have half
and half that you have hybrids.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Hybrids are the way to go.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Personally, even me as electrician who loves electricity, but I'm
a big believer in fossil fuel vehicles and things, I
still believe that a hybrid is the way to go. Okay,
I just think that we need to have a little
bit of both in our vehicles.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Now.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
They got to make it so that those batteries aren't
so damn expensive. When you've got to replace a battery
and it costs more than the vehicle itself, that's a problem.
So again, to make all this make sense, there has
to be a happy medium that type of thing. But
here's the thing, Tyson Tesla wouldn't just sit around and complain.
If he were alive today, and you and I both
(26:05):
know that he would still be in the lab somewhere.
He'd be working on some new invention, trying to push
humanity forward like he always did, because that's who he is.
A visionary, a dreamer, a relentless innovator. Right, He's not
a follower, He's a leader.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
He always was.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
All Right, folks, that's the kind of things that you
have to think about in your life. Be a visionary,
be a leader, think outside of the box, contribute to
the industry, help others learn the code, learn the National
Electrical Code, be better electricians. We're only here on this
rock one time. We're spinning around there, we're going to
fade away. Okay, so what legacy do you want to leave.
I want to leave a legacy where I'm teaching people,
(26:44):
helping them learn, being nice to one another the best
they can, and really putting forward good trusted electrical knowledge.
I certainly no Nikola Tesla. I do have patents like
Nikola Tesla, so that puts me in his company. I
love the concept. I love the feeling of that. But again,
it's always moving forward, always innovating, and that's what we
do at Electrical Code Academy. We're always adding courses, we're
(27:07):
always adding videos, We're always adding other things like fast tracks,
tube and the interactive features that we add. We're always
trying to move forward because we believe in that same
vision We want to be a visionary, We want to
be a dreamer. We want to be a relentless innovator
for electrical education. All right, folks, Well that's today's episode.
If you enjoyed this deep dive, make sure you subscribe
(27:29):
and you follow Master the NEC podcast. Get our free
mobile app over on our website, and let me know
what you think of today's episode. You know what, even
in the comments, let me know what you think Tesla
would think of today's world.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
It's up to you.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Step up, let me know what you think on whatever
platform you're listening to. Till next time, folks, stay curious,
stay electrified, and remember Tesla was the best thing since
sliced bread. All right, folks, till next time, Thanks for
joining me, Stay safe and God bless them.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
We'll catch you on the next episode of Master the
NEC podcast. Peace.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Thanks for tuning into another electrifying episode of the Master
of the NEC podcast. We hope you're feeling more powered
up and ready to tackle the electrical world with the
knowledge and confidence you need to succeed. Remember, in the
electrical trade, knowledge is power, and we're here to make
sure you stay plugged into the latest insights, tips and
(28:24):
code updates. If you enjoy today's episode, don't forget to subscribe,
leave us a review, and share the podcast with your.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Fellow electricians and industry pros.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Until next time, keep your tools sharp, your circuits clear,
and you're my focus because here at the Master of
the NEC podcast, we're all about sparking your success. Stay safe,
stay smart, and keep mastering the trade. From all of
us here at Electrical Code Academy, thank you for all
your support, and we will see you on the next
(28:57):
amazing Master of the NEEC podcast.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
This episode mm hmm
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