MOTN LORE: Halo Array (Halo)

Welcome to MOTN LORE! The Nerdiverse chooses an "Item of Lore" that we will rank to find it's true importance in Pop Culture! Wash and Mike G suit up to discuss one of the most devastating locations in pop culture! The Halo Arrays! How does it measure up as an object of lore? Watch and find out!

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Welcome back Nerdiverse for a brand new episode of mot
and Lore, where you choose an object of that the
masters of the universe deliberate and decide how important is
this item in the overall core nerdi verse of that universe.

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the man himself, the arbiter himself. Wash, what's going on? Sir?

Speaker 3 (01:24):
What up?

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (01:25):
You know what I forgot? The audience picked this task.
I thought you picked this task.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah it's them, Doug, because you said they knock it down. Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Well I am doing well. I'm excited to be here
to discuss all things Halo arrays and what's what's nots
in w t F. So uh yeah, man, I'm stoked.
This should be a good one. I this should be
a good one.

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Halo man. The Halo arraise is what we're talking about
as this object of power. Your thoughts, Okay.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
I want to start with my experience with Halo, because
Halo goes back aways like we're not talking, you know,
twenty twelve type of stuff, We're talking like first generation
video game. Lord, this is where this was base grown.
My general experience with Halo was the first one I

(03:07):
remember getting pretty far in Xbox OG Xbox but I
definitely remember that being one of my first fouras forays
into the world of multiplayer and Xbox Live. And I
was not a big fan of how the truck drove

(03:29):
guys jumped up right, And so when the second one
came out, I was like, all right, and we skipped
all the story, you know what I mean. I just
played some multiplayer on that and that was fun. And
then Halo three looks dope, you know what I mean?
And then I was like, oh forty minutes and I'm like,
I get it. So me and Halo go way back

(03:49):
because it's something I've always dipped my toe in, I've
kept my eye on. I was a fan of the
television show until we did this Lore, and now I
kind of understand what everybody's upset about a little bit.
So the Halo arrayed me. You know, we're we're new friends,

(04:12):
but but but but old old acquaintances.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
That's a very good way to put it. Man, the
Halo array, Halo itself combat evolved, man like you, I
was one of those kids who had an Xbox, you
know what I'm saying. And this was one of the
very first games you got, right, It's kind of like
getting Duck Hunt on the Nintendo. You know, it just
came with the system almost and you know, growing up,

(04:38):
it was a lot of GoldenEye Double O seven, which
was kind of my introduction to quote unquote multiplayer. But
this was like the next logical step, you know what
I mean. It was This was kind of like the
Saint your Granddaddy's gold and I you know, this is Halo.
We got you know what I'm saying. We got guns
and stuff. You know. So growing up, Halo was kind

(04:59):
of like a change of atmosphere or when it came
to video games, you know, this was the this was
the big thing, you know what I mean, And it
was a very big deal. Halo one was insane, you know,
the whole idea of land parties and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
I mean, and I don't want to take it too
far off left field, but you're like, if Halo fails,
Xbox fails, you know what I mean. And it's like
that's a statement, but it could be true because Halo.
Halo was a generational type of turn in gaming for
a lot of folks.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
It's funny you mentioned the TV show because when playing Halo,
Halo's one of those games where you never paid attention
to the lore. You know what I mean. Just hey man,
we're just gonna squad up. We're gonna get some pizza
Hut for the night. We're gonna play Halo until we
throw up, you know what I mean. That was the
That was the night with your boys. You know what
I'm saying. With the squadron, you know, we run in
sets on the Halo array and have no idea what

(05:57):
it means, know of the state said any of that.
We're just having a good time. I'm Covenant, I'm Covenant.
We'll touch me. That's it. Bother me. Uh And it
wasn't until Halo three, Halo Reach Halo od s T
when you're much more mature and you're starting to say, Okay,

(06:20):
what is actually happening? Who went Spartan one one seven?
You know what I mean? What is why is this game?
You know, and that when you start going down the
rabbit hole of the of the titular Halo. What is
this thing? Why are we fighting on it? You know
what I mean? What it's its importance. So that's why
I'm really happy the Nerdi verse chose this one, because

(06:41):
this is a topic we would never talk about just casually,
like we bring up Halo.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
In ten years. I don't think we've brought up Halo once.
We assume a couple of times, but like, Halo is
not a reoccurring theme in the Halo array. It's never
come up in converse.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Never. I've never said those words before this, before this
lore became a thing. Why would I talk about it? Oh?
You mean the Do you mean the cybers master Chief Doug?
You know Kurtana? Oh you mean that app that was
on your phone? You know that predated Siri because people

(07:21):
forget that Kurtana was an actual real app. They made
that ship on the app before the series and the
and what's what's the one now, washed that's on Apple devices? Siri,
not sirih the other one. Ah, my brain is fried,

(07:44):
Like no, it's fine. But the Halo arrays, I think
are the titular Halo and it's like, what are these things?
And I think that's a very good segue into our
first uh talking display. What if you can give me
an elevator pitch of what the hell is the Halo
of ray would be able to do it.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
I am so glad that you asked, Mike, because in
order for me to do this this podcast, I needed
an elevator pitch to explain what the hell this is.
You want to know what the Halo array is? It is?
I wrote it down. It is and I quote the
worst last plan ever, the worst last plans ever.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
And not only.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Is it the worst last plan ever, but they did
multiple love them to make sure intriplicate that things were.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
You're gonna do something right, something right, you do it right.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
In short, before we get to the end. At the beginning,
a Halo away is in installation that is made the
fire off in order to destroy all sentient life to
stop the dress the flood. I want to say, took
my brain adult brain, three halos brain plus video game brain.

(09:10):
Took my brain a good six to seven hours to
really wrap my head around what are we doing right now?

Speaker 1 (09:20):
What do we do? I like the way this episode
is going. I already like the way this is going.
It's like, here's the plan. Guys. We are the Forerunners, right,
We're talking about more about the fore Runners later. We're
the super agent super technological god race, and we just
we're stiny, bro. We don't know what to do with
the shit we're fighting the humans. We're in this forever war.

(09:42):
Now we have this whole other problem that the humans
done brought their beg bugs with them, and now things
are getting gross. Now they're starting to bounce on our beds.
How do we stop this, Doug, what's the answer? Oh? Yeah,
we just annihilate all life in the universe. That's the
only that is the only answer.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
And look, I'm not looking at the slide deck for
everybody who's watching this live right now, I'm not looking
at the slide deck. Right. Look, how do we come
to a conversation that destroying all sentient life is the
best plan? Best we have?

Speaker 1 (10:20):
They said, I would. I'd had to do a little
bit of research myself, because I'm like what they said.
David had literally had tens of thousands of plans that
just didn't work out. Go back to formula, back to formula.
But we can't fit. How do you solve a problem
like Maria, how do you solve a problem like the flood?
I guess you just don't.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
And I'm glad you say that because the Halo ray
being an interesting lower topic. The flood in itself is
an interesting lower topic with like universe because it's like,
what in the world, where else have we seen something
that is absolutely so terrifying that everybody's.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Like, yeah, fuck it. And we're not just.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Talking about Earth here, so you know, if you're if
you're kind of shades of Halo, like like there are
people planets all over there, there's people everywhere, right, and
they're like, yeah, the entire galaxy's gotta go.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Because of that that situation, we need to scorch Earth
everything like this is the only solution. This is the
only solution, and we're gonna spend We're gonna divolge all
this resource and create these arcs that are Halo making
machines and we're gonna spread these dwalt the cosmos because

(11:37):
of this one problem.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
No, I would like to dip a bit into Uh.
There's two books, cryptom and say I can't remold handwriting,
but silence, I couldn't get to the second one, but
the first one I did get through most of And
just so that you are aware, these books kind of
follow the four Erunners, right, And so as you mentioned,

(12:00):
there are these technological like all knowing, like not necessarily
all knowing, but they're problem solving types of people that
are better than just through average Joe. Let's put it
that way. I know we're coming to it. They put
together this plan seven times. There are seven halo arrays,

(12:22):
these super large installations that are artificially intelligen that are
ran by artificial intelligence as a fail safe because well, yeah,
if one of the flood were alike I don't know,
get through, we couldn't have.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
That, can't no at all. It's funny you mentioned like
the artificial intelligences that run each array, you know, the oracles,
And it reminds me of remember did you ever watch
The Core where it's about the Earth's core being needed,
needing to be restarted. So they just they planned out

(12:58):
these seven arrays to be strategically placed across the cosmos,
so they'll fire off in sequence to ensure maximum saturation.
So it's like it's almost like dropping rocks in a
pond and those ripples will not stop until the entire universe.
And how they do it is they cripple all life's

(13:20):
nervous systems, so nothing can one, nothing can grow, nothing
can reproduce. It's the most brilliantly stupid idea of all time.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Luckily there's one four Runner, a doctor of some type
who's like, you know what, this is a terrible idea.
Let me go and do like the Noah's Arc type
of thing, which is interesting because that they use arc
and gather up you know this, that a couple of people.
We're gonna place them away from everybody to ensure that

(13:54):
they don't get touched by this halo because civilization is
going to be wiped out. And you know what, they
did it, the fore Runners, they did it. They flipped
the switch on this. And I think that's important that
we talk about. And I'm not sure if it's there
like in the slide, but it's like, you flip the switch.
Not only did you build it, you flip this switch

(14:16):
on it.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
You fired it. Yeah, it's kind of like and we
talk about it into the next slide, the ultimate fail safe, right,
It's almost like as Amandias and watchmen. Oh do you
think I would tell you my master plan if I
haven't already done it? You know what I mean? Like, yeah,
I flipped the switch ten minutes ago. There's no way
you're stopping this. And they've already reset the galaxy once

(14:41):
over this nonsense, And that's how we got where we
are now. Because the flood, I guess, are so astronomically
problemsome like worrisome. That is like, yeah, God, just do it,
just do it, just do it, just do it. But
what also makes and we're talking to talk more about
the Forerunners as being cowards because even they had at

(15:01):
a measure of preservation. Yeah, we're gonna ice the entire universe,
but we're gonna be okay though, right nah man, just
chilling how the art. We'll have some of our people
over here so that when everything gets destroyed, we'll be
around to make sure that the universe is rebuilt in
our image, and we'll replant the earth and we'll redo this.
But the flood, we're gonna keep that under wraps. They

(15:23):
did they wash what's what? Was this? Truly the ultimate
fail safe?

Speaker 3 (15:27):
Ah? I again, like when I think about the flood,
and it's like how could you How could something be
so terrifying that if it's a issue over six galaxies,
over six planets, over if one spore gets out? You
know what I mean? That is that is crazy levels

(15:47):
types of fail safe. So you know, the thing that
I found myself thinking about is, Okay, let's say a
zombie apocalypse broke out closest thing, right, How how is
destroying everything the best option for anybody? So when you
say the ultimate fail safe, it's like it's a fail safe,

(16:11):
but I don't know if it's the ultimate, which I mean,
I hadn't considered your comment about cowards. But you know, there's.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
What's more ultimate than absolution? I mean, what's more finite?
What's more infinite than everything? Like if this doesn't do it,
nothing will. And what's sad is it still didn't do it.
This ultimate fail safe that they created as a stop gap,
We're just going to destroy all life because it wouldn't

(16:39):
be worth living as a part of the of the
art of the flood Hive, and it still got out
generations later, you know what I mean? So, is there
any real true solution to the flood?

Speaker 3 (16:51):
I mean the entire series, I guess I find myself
conflicted with you know, the Spartans, because at least the Spartans,
the US, the US Spartan, they were willing America, they
were willing to stand up to the flood, you know
what I mean, in our fallacy, in our hubris, as

(17:11):
you'd like to say, and probably would have just got
gunshoted over. If everything is true about these dudes, I
mean they built a halo. I'm assuming it's true. You know,
I can only go about what's out there. So I
think that that parody between the two decisions is very
interesting in this story, because you know, the flood is

(17:32):
still a threat, but we didn't necessarily flip the switch,
even though we had the opportunity.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Got pretty damn close. What the problem was is that
I think the story of Halo, it's really the story
of church and state, right, the USF is you know
America fea, you know matter chief, that's all the state.
This is how we run things, That's how things are
gonna go. And then you have the Covenant, which are
the most holy aest sect I've seen in probably a

(17:59):
lot of fiction. These guys aren't playing, and they thought
that the Halo was some kind of like divine right
that was going to purify the universe. They had no
idea what it was they were you know what I mean,
No one did, but they were.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
Still okay with the thought of destroying everything to get
their godliness, you know what I mean. So again, you're
you're stuck with this. This is this is the only
option is galaxies. You know, we talk about this often
in all types of fiction, galaxy world level threat. And
it took me a while to wrap my brain around

(18:36):
how this lore and the people within Halo see the
plague the parasite as a galaxy level threat, even a
bigger it's like a cosmic level threat because it's intellectual
and it can expand. So it's not necessarily that they're
on this planet and they take over this planet. It's oh,

(18:58):
they may build a rocket ship with our technology and
then go to the next planet over, And it's like,
how do you fight that? It reminds me of the
Board quite a bit. That's that's I found myself assimilation.
But the parasites are not necessarily bad, I found myself.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
You don't learn that way later though.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
I found myself thinking towards the end of the story
of Halo, you know, could this have all have been
been like solved by Captain Picard, you know what I mean,
a good cup of tea.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Sitting talking solved the problem. Because it's not a good idea, Mike,
it's not a good idea. Then guns and guns and
fail saves and guns. Yea was to talk, bro. So
let's talk about the most non talkers of all time.
Who are the forerunners? Right? And these are the bright

(19:53):
These are people who had the bright idea to create
these halo installations, the artificial intelligences, this ultimate felt safe
against a against a problem. They had no solution for it.
We go back to it, and it just makes me
think about like a lot of the ancient races in fiction,
you know what I mean, the ones who were here before,

(20:14):
almost like the ancient Egyptians in a kind of a
strange way where they, you know, they were so advanced,
but not advanced it enough to like you just said,
just have a conversation. Because if you would have sat
down and said high to a flood, it may have
said high back, And we learned that that was the case.
So in your thoughts, who were the forerunners to you?

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Again, I'm gonna bring up a Star not a Star Wars.
I'm staying away from Star Wars on purpose. Ladies and gentlemen, Yes,
I bring up a Star Trek reference because they actually
reminded me of droids, and they actually reminded me of
how they treated Master Chief in this series where they

(20:54):
are this advanced technology but they can't see the forest
through the trees type of situation. It's like the simplest
solution is never the answer for the fore Runners. And
in the book, I can't remember his name because they're Sands, Sands,
whatever the last part of his name is. He's like,
I want you humans to take me over there because

(21:16):
he's a fore Runner. And you know, he's wearing his
armor much like Master Chiefs armor, because the fore Runners
have found out, h well, you know what, we're pretty smart.
If we develop armor, we don't get hurt. So, you
know what, everybody just wears armor now and now we're good.
So the kids are like, yeah, we're only gonna take

(21:36):
you over there if you take off your armor, and
he's like, all right, sure he wants to go over there.
So he takes off his armor and he's walking through
the sand and he's like, yeah, the sand's starting to
hurt my feet. And that's the fore runners, you know
what I mean. And so that's the fore Runners. And
so it's like, wear's my suit of armor for this sand.

(21:59):
It is the epitome of you know, small fly, large hammer.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yeah, pretty much. And they just seem very like you said,
they're so smart that they're stupid in a weird way
that they're over there, like you said, they're overseeing, they're
overthinking the problem or not feeling it out, you know
what I mean. I think that's the human element that
is really just the achilles heel for us in these

(22:25):
victories in these science fiction you know, books and games
and movies, is that these things are so brainy they
can't feel it. They can't. They don't they don't get hunches,
you know what I mean, don't like let's try this.
They lack of imagination for as intelligent as they are.
And you know, they pretty much like you said, tried

(22:46):
to put a band aid over the over a bullet
they tried. I would say the opposite of putting a
band aid over a bullet wound, you know what I mean?
Kind of like you know, like I go back.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
To your coward statement of like you know, at what
point was and they did try a lot, they did
try a lot, but at what point was you know what,
We're just gonna go down with the ship in option.
But when you look at a Halo ray, if you've
played Halo and you walk through Halo Ray, these things

(23:18):
are not small a lot freaking Halo raing, you know
what I mean. So it takes some work, some efforts,
some time to put all of this in the place.
And you know, they they they kind of got in
their own way. They flipped the switch on themselves. Like
what can I say about the fore Erunners. I almost

(23:40):
feel bad for them, And that's really what is interesting
about us talking about the lore of Halo versus the
lore of what they're scared of, which.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Is the flood.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
The flood I can't ever like the plague.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
You might as well be, and it is. And in
another way you look at it, they're almost the flood
almost reminds me of like an indigenous like indigenous population,
almost like the Native Americans, you know what I mean,
or even like you know, African Africans in Africa in
a weird way where it's like we can't control the situation.

(24:19):
So we're just gonna completely wipe it out and take
it and if we can't, if we can't wipe them out,
we'll wipe all of us out. If we can't have it,
no one can, you know what I mean type of
approach to this problem that, like you said, could have
been solved with talking. And I kind of do have
a soft spot for the Forerunners because, like you said,
they just got in their own way, But at the

(24:41):
same time, them kind of hiding out on these arrays
and hiding out on the arc, that's kind of rubbed
me the wrong way, where it's like this is the
ultimate solution for all life, but the Forerunners, you know,
we're gonna make sure that the the you know, the
flood will touch no one but the fore Runners, you know.
So it's we're gonna set up this artificial intelligence to

(25:03):
run these things and they can't hurt anyone but the
fore Runner. So it's like they they didn't put their
money where their mouths were, almost to an extent, even
though they did push the button and they did it,
but they weren't thorough Like you said, they should have
went down with the ship. If that was the case,
and that the future figure itself out because yeah, otherwise,

(25:25):
what do you do? What are we doing? Switch? Just
let the switch, just just let the flood take over.
At that point, who gives the ship?

Speaker 3 (25:33):
Who knows?

Speaker 1 (25:34):
It?

Speaker 3 (25:34):
May they turned out to be better? Who knows? We
don't know, you know what I mean. But if it's
to the point of like, well, you know, we're gonna
hang out, but you know who, everything else would be cool,
We'll figure that out. It's like, you know you again,
it's a drastic solution to this problem, you know what
I mean? And you know Halo, you you love Halo.

(25:58):
And it's like, did they even do the flood justice
compare to the what it is we're actually playing, Like
the concept we're playing did they make the flood? Is
scary enough in Halo?

Speaker 1 (26:11):
And it's like, I think it was a it was
a problem of the nature of the game. And if
if Halo was more dead Space then Call of Duty
maybe we'd have understood the gravity of the situation. But
we're we're listening to you know, when we were kids,
we were here listening to limp biscuit drinking mountain doing,

(26:33):
just mowing these things down without a.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
Without care first person understand Bro Yeah, you know what.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
I'm saying, give me something to break, and we're just
killing these shits. But we don't understand that all it
takes is a spore to touch your human, fragile skin
and you're just rocked. That's it. You don't even have
to get bit by zombie breathing zombie air and you're ft.
You know what I'm saying. But that's one thing about
the Munaire armor is that it's in to flood. It's

(27:03):
it's like super molecule tight. So that's why that was
the mcguffin for master Chief that he can never get
infected as long as he doesn't take his helmet off.
But what does master Chief do? He never takes his
damn helmet off, no matter what. You don't see this
man's face ever, So he was always not unless they
tear him apart, which they weren't gonna do. Master Chief
was straight. He was gonna figure it out.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
And I'm glad you bring that out because thus far,
and I'm trying to remember because I watched Taylo when
it first came out. Yeah, the TV show when it
first came out. I don't think any of this was
in Halo. The TV show and his helmet was off,
and it's like the problem plays.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Talk about it. I was I shot this series so much,
Bell Bro. I was like, No, they're gonna get to it, Doug,
They're gonna get to it. It's season one. You can't
not do the flood, right. I want to see the
flood in lie action. I want to see a Halo array.
I want to see. I want to see what haggs
I want to see. We didn't get none of that, Bro,

(28:07):
the whole first We didn't even get the Arbiter the
first season. No, in the second I'm doing.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
My research and I'm trying to think and I'm not
going back to look the show again, and I'm like,
we didn't get any of this in the.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Halo show, none of it. We barely got the Battle
of Reach, Bro. We got the Battle of Reach, which
was dope. I'm not gonna knock it. And they introduced
the flood on the last episode and then it got canceled,
and then it got canceled, so they never did the flood.
We got one episode of the Arbiter. It was like

(28:42):
the end of season two was the start of Halo two,
and it sucked. Wasn't gonna start of Halo two. It
was just it was the end of Halo one. We
didn't get no fore run We kind of got the Foreerunners.
There was this mysterious who created this technology with the
there's no problem.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
There was no brute.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
I think there was one brute. There was one brute
in season two he on one and that sh it
was real. There's certain things about the series that were real.
So another thing I wanted to talk about is the
legendary Battle of Installation oh four. This is the battle

(29:24):
where Halo one took place, Compact evolved, the first time
we see master Chief, the war of the Halo Array,
the the Covenant versus the military, you know, Cortana, all
that fun stuff, Doug, and you realize that this is

(29:48):
just a blipping time, you know what I mean. That's
a lot of stuff happened before and a lot of
stuff happened after with this. But why do you think
that this battle is so important in the overall lore
of Halo.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
I mean, we fell upon it like if and just
if it's dark outside where you're around right now, folks,
if it's evening, there's a beautiful like bright red orange
moon thing going on in front of me, So go
check that out. We're not live. Pardon me, my bad. Uh.

(30:25):
I think that that that it's important because had we
not fell upon this, we would not have known what
the profits were doing.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Right.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
We're cruising through space and we're like, what's this giant
ring in the middle of space? And and what are
these ships doing around it?

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Right?

Speaker 3 (30:50):
And so we started off on an uh An investigation mission.
And had we not stumbled at that place in time,
the profits would, you.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Know, accidentally wipe out the galaxy, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yeah, because they read they read, you know, they're they're
relic wrong, and it brings back shades to Starfield and
whatnot finding your relic and you think you know what
it's about, and it's like, I don't know what any
of this is about.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Wait what you find out? Real quick? If around and
find out, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. But I
like the Covenant as a villain. I think they're one
of my favorite villains in pop culture only because they're
not wrong. They're just kind of like a little naive,

(31:36):
you know what I mean. They're they're they're few, they're
they're fueled by the religious right. They believe that they're
the chosen ones in the galaxy and they're doing the
right thing, you know what I mean. Even though they're
a little bit pious, they still have honor. Like one
of my fa the Arbiter, is so cool to me.
He's one of the coolest characters ever because it's like

(31:59):
the enemy of the end me as my friend. Right, Hey, Arbiter,
your people are tripping. They're gonna unleash this thing that
neither of us can handle. Okay, demon, because that's what
they call master chief, they call them the demon. Okay, Demon.
We this team up and figure this out, you know,
Halo two, Halo three, any and then we get to
Halo four, which is on Earth if I'm not mistake,

(32:21):
because the reach make it to Earth. But this is
the battle, This is the this is the culmulation. This
is when the two sides start to cohabitate a little bit, right, Yeah,
they but.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
You know, at the beginning of Halo, they don't know
that they're friends, you know what I mean. They are
desperate enemies against each other, one battling the other, and thus,
you know, setting the stage for a great first person
shooter and what turns out to be a fantastic story,
if not a little you know, like blindsided or whatever

(32:56):
the word may be. You know, it's it's like they
they kept a very tight story wrapped around what this is,
this moment in time represents, right. But again, the reason
that this thing exists is because of the flood, and

(33:16):
we do see a bunch of the flood in Combat Evolve.
I want to say, maybe.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
It's like the last stage of the game.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
It was like the last stage of the game that
was like all flood and it's like, you know, that's cool.
That's cool, man. So I think it's important. I think
that the fact that they blow it up is important
because you know, it leads to not only finding a
second one, but realizing that, oh.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
There's seven of them and then a secret eighth. You
know what I mean. It's like the problem just multiplied itself.
And the the installations almost remind me of Fallout. They
were remind me of vaults, you know what I mean,
because each installation is a little bit different, you know

(34:06):
what I mean, Different things are going on. I think
installations one prime installation has a corrupt AI in it
that starts to work with the flood, you know what
I mean. It's like I just want to I don't
want to be free, so I want to let the
flood out. This is let this, this is kick it
all off. I'm tired.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
What is the game with the robot portal? I thought
that there's room to open up this universe so that
the portal robot turns out to be the oracle that
are in these and I was like, that would be
freaking cool, because I like the oracles. I like the AI,

(34:47):
like their function, and they represent kind of a chaotic
good type of function.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
It's like I.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
See good in this way, so this is good and
damn any other results outside of that.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
I love that master Chief is so over is in
over his head in this entire kind of arena of steaks.
It's like and all he could do is master Chief.
You know. He's the most simple kind of like like
he's almost like a giant Saint Bernard, you know what
I mean. He's just like, I'm here to do a job,
but I'm gonna do it, god derenit. And you know,
and he doesn't really get the gravity of the situation.

(35:27):
It's like the Arbiter gets it more than Master Chief. Does,
and it's Cortana. That's kind of like, nah, nah, chief,
we got to do this, We have to do that.
You have to go here and blow this up. Why
do you have to blow it up because it will
destroy all? Okay, that makes sense in the artificial intelligence,
it's like, oh, I'm sorry, we've made a mess. It's

(35:47):
been kind of gross in here. Now. I don't remember
why were there cut Why were their floods on the Halo?
Is that where they kept them like in stasis or something,
or did problem just really reached this particular installation. I
don't remember exactly that.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
I could not tell you, but they were there at
the end. Were there, well, they were at the end
of Halo. I could not tell you because you know
that first halo is not necessarily flushed out the way
the other two and three or four become, you know
what I mean. So they just made it very.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Just you know, they're kind of kind of like yeah.
And also on the installations, weren't there like samples from
all over the galaxy of other creatures so they can
repopulate the Earth, I mean, repopulate the galaxy Once the
blink happens, then they have like specimens from other cultures
and things.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Doctor might have placed them there, like there's one the
one four runner doctor she was. She thought that it
was a terrible idea to fire off these halos because
you know, they'd kill everybody. So she did what she
could to try to preserve any type of life she could,
and in fact, there was some sort of uprising. I
don't want to call it, to call it quite a

(37:04):
civil war, just because there were people on her side,
which obviously you know what I mean, Mike, someone comes
out tomorrow and they're like, hey, man, here's what we're
gonna do. There's zombies. We just found out. We just
found out the zombie apocalypse is real. And so we
have our what's what's the thing that we just put
in the sky, the big laser telescope thing. So our

(37:25):
laser telescope thing is gonna fire a beam and it's
gonna take out all sentient life they watch.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
You see. The problem is is that we discovered an
illness called COVID nineteen. Right, I wasn't I did say
it right in the nation. Okay, Now we got this
orbital laser that can shoot a rail gun on on
the United States. They'll solve the problem. The only thing
is there won't be United States afterwards. Is everybody cool

(37:55):
with that?

Speaker 3 (37:56):
And as we begin to wrap everybody cool with that,
our conversation about this like Halo ray. It's like, Mike,
this is kind of what I had to do in
my brain to wrap my head around a fantastic universe,
but yet one that is so ill equipped to come

(38:18):
up with any any other ideas.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
It's almost charming in a way. You know, it's like,
let's call a spade a spade. We don't always lend
yes no, no worries threat of the dreaded flood. We
could just kind of talk talk about them even more
where it's like this was such a damn problem that
the greatest minds of all time, millennia of planning tens

(38:45):
of thousands of contingencies failed. We don't know what the
hell to do with this man that's just scorch earth
and just wipe out all of existence. That's the only solution.
And these things still don't die, they just go dormant.
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
I think it's important to say, you know, when you're
infected by a flood, it's not just the flood taking
over me. The flood takes over me, all of my abilities,
anything that I control. Right, So essentially it's and you know,
we see the parasite in part two. I want to say,

(39:23):
giant parasite. Yes, thank you gravemind and the grave mind
and and you know, so essentially it has a bunch
of tentacles out there controlling people. So you know, I
guess there's a conversation to be had Mike if it's like, hey,
you know what, You're still going to be conscious while
this grave mind is now controlling all your functions. Isn't

(39:46):
that Scarlet which type of situation that we had?

Speaker 1 (39:51):
It's you want to destroy the galaxy? Then it's a
fate worse than death almost. It's it's it's merging into
the is merging into the hole. You know what I mean,
You're going back into your creator. It all it takes
is all it takes is a pollen. All it takes
is a microscope. I'll it takes a microscopic bit of

(40:13):
this to touch your skin and you're just synced into
this hive mind and all of your agency is gone
and you look grossed on top of it. But it
is a sentient life form that feels and thinks and strategizes.
So is it right to just wipe this thing completely out?

(40:34):
Even though it has zero control of it, spread doesn't
even want to. And you find out that the High
Mind is kind of like amplicable. It's kind of like,
all right, master Chief, if they fire this thing off,
we're all gonna died. I don't want to die.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
I don't want to I'm like, I don't.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Chillingfore, I'm just like here you trying to live do
try to live my life? And it makes you it
doesn't and it doesn't like gently put the idea in
your head. It makes you sympathize with the flood, like
it's literally asking master Chief for a deal. And it's

(41:14):
like we've been fighting this shit for Gaines Doug, not
giving it, not caring, mowing them down, and now it's
telling us you were wrong. You were wrong to so
fervently extinguish this problem because there's only a problem to us,
is not a problem to It makes you makes you
think a little bit, doesn't it.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
It definitely tickled my Jedi brain because it's like, yeah,
even if it is bad, it is sentient, you know
what I mean? There is room and this is where
my point about a conversation is to be had and
master chief and the arbitrary tend to I don't want
to say it's a fairly one sided conversation. That's the
parasites like I'm going to tell you what's happening and

(41:57):
you will listen. That's that's the conversation. But a conversation
did take place between the parasite and Kurtana where the
parasite learned all this information about humanity, our pros cons
you know, our destructive nature, things of this nature. So

(42:19):
it's like there's something to be said about the flood
being a threat because Lord knows humanity, especially the Spartan cores,
are going to be seen as like there are a
friendly bunch of people over there. But I do think
that when we are discussing the flood, and I looked

(42:40):
for this in my research, like when you talk about
the forerunners, like, there's no flood side of this story. No,
you know what I mean, there's no flood aside. There's
no real reason about why the flood is doing what
the flood does. It just does what it doesn't move.

(43:01):
That's that's the story of the flood. And so I
don't know if it's explored in comics or other myriads
of Halo lure out there. But that's something I'd like
to see done because, uh, if you ask me today,
just based upon reaction, and Halo is a completely reactionary measure. Dude,

(43:24):
the flood, Dude that it's got to be one of
the most terrifying things any of us have ever heard of.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
I'm trying. I'm hard pressed. You made it. You made
a connection to like the borg, right, like cleaning assimilation.
There's nothing you can damn do. You're just you're just
gonna get flooded. I hate no pun intended, right, You're
just gonna get ran the hell over. I don't care
how technologically advanced or systems are. I don't care how
peaceful you're, I don't care how fervent you are in

(43:53):
your destruction. You're going to get assimulated and we're going
to do what we have to do. And there's not
many threats I think of like the Villains of mass
effect almost, whereas like this unstoppable force meets an immovable
object type situation where it's like, yeah, the Harbingers, I

(44:13):
think is what they were called, and those things were
just about is on even keel with the flood, where
it's like, yeah, we don't have a solution to this
problem outside of talking. We have to talk to these
things because there's no other We can't brute force this problem.
And the Forerunners were the perfect example of we have

(44:34):
the we have the most concussive force in the universe.
And it still wasn't the answer, the worst answer, the
most the most infinite answer, it's still not an answer
because these things still had a way to get around.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
And it's like, did we not try some sort of
chemical compound, Like what's the flood made of?

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Do we know?

Speaker 3 (44:53):
Like, like do they not or something? Man, he tried
baking soda.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Hey, did you try borax bacon soda with a little
bit of sugar? Maybe that would have drove him away.
You know what I'm saying. You didn't try to leave
out like a like you know, it'd be like a
mosquito catcher or something like.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
It in the game or book. That's all I know,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
I don't know. Maybe master Chief can only have so
many weapons, Doug. You didn't have the goals, you didn't
have a little sper you'd have a little juice and
water juice, the peppermint, peppermint oil. Get out of here,
you know what what it took, you know, And I
just think that the like you said, in most fiction,

(45:41):
there's eventually a time where the warring opposition is kind
of ironed out, right, you know, Yeah, for the Alliance
for the Hord, f the Hord, the Hord have to die.
Can we talk to the Hord a little bit and
see maybe where their position is even the Empire, That's
one thing I'll about and or is that you get

(46:02):
to see it from the empire's point of view, you
know what I mean, what their ideals are, and what
the and and are there any decent humans among the Empire?
You kind of learned they're not, but at least they
have feelings and thoughts and foibles and but the Flood
don't really get a lot of representation. They're just this

(46:23):
thing that needs to be eradicated and the problem.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Tough place to be, yeah, tough place to be. Man
Like You're like, yeah, I'm just doing.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
My own thing, and you know, I'm just trying to
do my thing. This is all I know how to do,
and I'm really good at it. Apparently I'm very good
at it.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
I'm so good at it that they built seven.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
They built seven god machines to take me out. I'm
still here, a bitch. I'm still here, a bitch. I'm
still here talking to you, Master Chief. You know this
is you know, if they built seven of them, bro,
and there's a giant god went out there just making
other ones for me, that's crazy why myself hated, you know.

(47:04):
And it's like I love the I love that idea.
That's why it makes me think of like indigenous like populations,
you know what I mean, Like you know, like we
don't care that the thing thinks, well we know is
a threat to us, a threat to us, then it's
got to be eradicated. And that was the Forerunner's mistake.
That was the Covenant's mistake later on, and that was

(47:26):
our mistake. And it took Master Chief and the Arbiter
to almost broker a peace treaty with this thing for
the story of Halo to conclude, Like they.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
Had to kill people, like like they have to push
the button, you know what I mean, Like it didn't
just go off, like they had to do things to
get this to stop, because that was gonna say you
talk about the Covenant, they were almost worse than the
Forerunners because they just got a relic they looked at.
They're like, oh, it's past I.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Mean power, Let's do it.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
Open open, We're good.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
We are.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Have you considered? No?

Speaker 1 (48:08):
No, consider what we're right? If I'm right, what do
I have to consider? I am the prophet, I am infallible.
I've been told, this has been promised to be since
our the creation of our coveted We're going to do it.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
There's so much Lord to be told there.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
When you look at.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
The rolls of arbiters, like when you're wat you're like, oh, well,
there's a lot there's a lot of meat on the
halo bone. And you know, I'll keep referencing the television
show because that is the newest thing we've gotten. I
do believe they didn't cover any of it there.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
It's such a mased opportunity. Man, that show is so
God talk about. I was listening to our clip and
it's like talk about like maybe we just needed ten
more minutes and we could have made Magic Man this.
They could have been epic. Nah, bro, now you got it.

(49:12):
I want to talk about the importance to the Lord
I think this is one of our most important slides,
and I want to I almost want to save it
until we score this thing. But I want to ask you,
does this series happen if you remove? You know how
they say if you remove, if an actor has the
same urgency as a lamp shade, they shouldn't be in

(49:32):
the scene. You know what I mean? Like, if an
actor has the same presence as a lamp shade in
that scene, then the actor shouldn't be in that scene
because they're not They're not providing anything to give that
scene any kind of context or strength or meaning. If
you were to remove the Halo araise, the physical items,
what this could this story still be told.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
I'm going to tell it to you like this because
I was thinking about where does Halo go from here?
And I thought, you know, you can't really tell this story.
But let's say we blow up all seven Halos, right,
and the US Spartan Core and you know, the CID
and all these people get together and they're like, you
know what's gonna happen. The floods are gonna come here.

(50:19):
You know we need to do we need to build something, We.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
Need to build some more.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
So you're like if the Halos don't exist, I do
think we get to right or wrong, right, because when
we look at it, like the free people, but what
from freaking Starfield whatever town? That the free town? Anyway,
when we look at the people, the people we had

(50:47):
the slide one, thank you the Forerunners, Well, we look
for runners. They were technologic, technologically advanced, you know what
I mean by all rights and means they had the
scientific theory and thought through logically and they got here.
So if you're asking me if that admiral that we
see at the funeral, if given enough time, will he

(51:10):
get here knowing what he just saw?

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Yeah, And that's a sad that's almost like a dark
cynical ideal. And not to play Devil's advocate a little bit,
because it's what is it. It's if you don't learn
from your past, you're doom to repeat it almost you
know what I'm saying. And it's like we've proved this
whole series is proving the form Runners were wrong. Right,

(51:39):
it's proving this was not the ultimate fail safe. This
was the worst idea and it failed, It literally failed.
So I would hope you know and that though the
Halos are extremely important to the crux of this story,
and I think they're absolutely the mcguffin of the lore.

(52:00):
Is Master Chiefs still going to float around? Yeah, the
Covenant's still going to float around. Yeah, But like you said,
the flood aren't going anywhere. So what's the solution to
that problem and its coexistence? Right? So, if you were
to fast forward to Halo ten, what's the problem now
if it's not the flood and we don't need the Halos.

(52:23):
If there is no flood, then how truly important are
they to the future of the franchise. Maybe not so much,
but to the core of the story of Halo. It's
literally named after the thing is the thing is named
after the entire series, you know. I think that they're
extremely important to this story, to this isolated story.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
And they keep it tight to this too, Halo, you
know what I mean. They don't expand into other threats
within the galaxy. It is Oh, we came across this
and now they almost should have been called Project Halo,
you know what I mean, because then it's it's its
own book. They can wrap around that. I hope I

(53:11):
hadn't really considered Halo ten, but I do hope that
there can be a place for a Spartan core on
a different type of mission with just as many steaks
as this, because it seems to be a relatively big
galaxy if you can build seven of them and take

(53:34):
out everything, you know what I mean. So that's just
my little side side note. As I was thinking about
Halo and.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Then coming off your conments, and I'll close this out
with this. You said you were going to talk about
Star Wars by Design. Well, I'm going to talk about
Star Wars just to help round this out. This very
much reminds me of the Skywalker Soka. Where does Star
Wars go after the Skywalkers? It's like the Skywalkers are

(54:01):
so integral to the overall story of Star Wars. What
happens when you take when you say the end, right,
and now we have to pick up moving forward outside
of this monumental almost like black hole of content that
is so all encompassing the Halos in Halo is the Halo,

(54:25):
you know, the whole point of the story is the creation,
the reason, and the functionality of these installations that are
solving a unsolvable problem. But what happens when the problem
is solved? End of Halo, right, do these things? What
happens to does Halo keep going? It has to it?

(54:46):
It's a franchise.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
What do we do when you think about it as
a whole? These are fairly simple games too, you know
what I mean. You go to an installation, you shoot
a bunch of stuff and you blow it out right,
And so what do you do when you've built that
box for yourself? And the term Halo Xbox own tailor

(55:12):
these days, Microsoft phone tailor these days, and it's like
so tomorrow and we know how we are If they
come out and say, hey, we have master Chief in button,
is everybody gonna be is? Is this stoke? This is
this jack? It's button chief.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
And button button? Now guess what the button is? Buy
the game and find out, you know, it's like I
don't give a ship like what? No? I like It's
it's like dangle, dangle, dangle, you know, master Chief he's

(55:56):
in button? What's button? By the abe and find out
no one cares about you can't make button happen. You
know what I'm saying. We want Halo, well, Halo's done.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
If we want Halo six, that thicket six, Yeah, it.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Would be six. And that's why the other games kind
of flounder, like Halo. What was the last Halo game?
It just came out. They didn't do well at all.
They had back graphics, had nothing to do with the
you know, had a whole new villain McGuff and no
one gave a ship. Right, It's like, how do you
do infinite right, infinite failure? How do you do Star

(56:32):
Wars without Darth Vader? It's so tough, you know what
I'm saying, like, how do you do it? You know?
But here's a Jedi. We don't give a ship that
we want Vader. I want Vader, and I want the
breathing and with the red light sabers, I don't really
care about anything else. And it's like the Halo, with
the flood, the arbiters, the matter Chief. We're gonna just
leave all that. We're gonna do a new generation with
a new set of problems. But master Chief though. But

(56:56):
the Halo, though, I want to drive my Warhog.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
Do I get my needle gun or no?

Speaker 1 (57:01):
If we're not, Yeah, a bow and arrow, yeah, and
then you have you have the mister marketing. I'm sorry.
Needle gun equals arbiter equals covenant equals they're no longer
in the series. Okay, do I get my plasma sort?
Plasma sort equals Arbiter equals Covenant equals out of the series.
Can we drive our ward hugs on the cut? On

(57:23):
the Halo there is no Halo. There is only button.
There's button. There's a button with Master Chief the watch
the Video Game Awards you'll learn more about button. It's hard.
It's impossible. Almost, it's hard.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
It's hard. It's hard. Oh, shout out to uh the
soundtrack just dope.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
God like that that. It's that time, Wash, It's that
time for the lower power ranking where we scored this
our importance to the lore is zero out of five.
I'm gonna with you, Wash, Let's just get to it.
From a score of zero out of five grunts, Where

(58:09):
does the Halo array rank in its e strengthen lore
in the entirety of the Halo franchise? How important is
it to the story on from zero to five? Five?

Speaker 3 (58:24):
Because it is the worst last plan ever and if
they don't stop it, it's not it's not all like
something goes wrong, like everything dies. And I know we
hear that and a lot of different tropes, right, but
this is my point because I spent the last let's say,

(58:46):
seven eight days thinking about what other circumstance is this?

Speaker 1 (58:52):
The result is this.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
What we come up with? And I have to tell
you I came up with very few properties that have
like what what do we call it?

Speaker 1 (59:01):
Final final final final solutions, doug, Like.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
Final solution type shit, like drink the kool aid and
we'll all be happy.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
To go like the Angel, you know, Heaven's Gate type stuff, dude.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
So I'm gonna give it a five simply because, like
you know, we were just talking Button or Halo, you
know what I mean? Can you have had Halo without
mentioning the Halo array? Sure? You could have had on
Ground with like the flood, and the game probably would
have been called like the Flood, you know. And so
I'm gonna go five. As an overall lowre topic, I

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think that as far as an installation goes, this is one.
This is like Death Star times fifteen.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Yeah, I was gonna say worse than the Death Star man. Yeah,
like h So, one thing we talk about a lot
on this channel, and one thing that you're really I
would say fervent about is it's gotta have steaks.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
Man.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
This this show has no steaks, This property has no steaks.
I don't feel infested in the plight of our heroes
and villains. And I think about the I think about
the Halo installation as the ultimate steak because it's so
it's so final, right, It's like, you have to choose

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the Halo installation. The Halo Array is Heaven we all
get to go to Heaven, right, or the flood, which
is hell. We all get to go to Hell. No
matter what, We're all gonna die, you know what I mean.
So choose your Heaven or Hell. And all Halo is
about is finding Earth in the middle. We got to

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figure out something in the middle because the Halo Array
is not really an answer for the preservation of life.
Neither is the flood. There are two extremes of the
same kind of solution, right, they're too extremes of the
same outcome, And all matter Chief of Katana and the Arbiters,

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they're all they're trying to figure out to do is
like how do we not die?

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
Not die? Yes? Yes, I mean the admirals like, yeah,
I don't know if you're gonna live or die. And
I'm probably not gonna be around the sea, so.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
None of us are making it bro Like, how do
we solve this? This is a big problem. The stakes
have never been higher, you know what I mean? Like
it's everything's it's literally everything on either side of the wall.
And it's like, you can't have heaven without Hell. You
can't have you know what I'm saying, Absolution are damnation.

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It's it's like it just doesn't exist that there needs
to be a balance, right, and the Halo will raise
these physical installations created by angels pretty much to solve
the problem of Hell, even though it's gonna cause everyone
to die anyway. It's like you can't have the story
doesn't exist without them, the story doesn't move without them.

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The ultimate mcguffin.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
I was like, if you get to the end of
Halo Combat Evolved, then you don't like win. Everything just ends,
like your copy of Halo two oh D s t.
It just evaporates, like the.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
Back to the Xbox starts smoking like Mission Impossible though
game of self destructed five seconds. It's God, don't up.
You fucked up. You lost you to get one shot,
you only had one shot by the gate. I gotta
reabind the games. Xbox, don't even exist anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
Your reality, bro, no lost you lost?

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
Guess what you lost? We set off, we set off
what is it called electronic pulse, and you pretty much
set your house back to the stowed age. You can
play this ship again.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
This is the final solution this so.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
I can't think of anything bigger than this ship, Doug
like it's the most busted like worst answer. It's like
the answer to death is death right. Whether our rather
servant heaven than wether, I rather ruling health than serving heaven? Right,
It's like either you turn into a gross beastial flood
beast and you're living like a full life, or you

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let us take you to heaven. You know what, I'm
all of us, all of us are going to heaven,
except we're going to hide out in the arc over here,
literally called the damn arc. You're gonna hide over They
even talk.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
About the arc being the place where they house the
main control center for all seven in case something where
to go wrong. When one of the seven, they're like, oh, well,
we have an AI here who can just fire them
all loft.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
And it's fine, so manually trip they'll trip maximum saturation,
don't try this is.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
The best idea like if I if I'm a meeting
to morrow and this comes out as like the best idea,
I'm like, all right, I gotta go.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
I guess I just quit. I gotta go. I gotta
do with my family that got be fussed up. I'm
not co cited any of this duy, so I'm gonna
give it. And I hate to do this because I
have I'm almost like I have to give it a five.
It's a five and a five, but I reluctantly give
it a five. I reluctantly this is a very reluctant

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five because I'm almost it's against my will. My arm
is being met behind my back on this five. Because
you don't get more important than this, you know what
I mean, You don't get more important. This isn't Menaire
to Thor. Thor will be Thoor without the hammer that
was proven and Thor Ragnarok. This is the series like

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master Chief, all that doesn't exist if these things don't exist.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
And we show what happened when they don't exist in
a live action format, it button right button, like it
didn't work out for anybody, didn't work all of us.
There is some cretance to what you're saying, and you know,
I don't want to say mine is reluctant five, but
I do understand your hesitancy because it is such a stationary,

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non functional like so forceful.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
It's so like it's so forceful's as forceful as the flood.
And it's like, well, master Chief is the main character.
Why why is the halo more important to master Chief?
It is because without it, master Chief does it. Literally,
master Chief just dies without it, right, we all just
die without this stink, without the threat of it. It's

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almost like a nuclear deterrent, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,
this is the button, and we push this button, it
all fucking goes.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
And in fact, I'm glad you mentioned angels because I
was thinking it's very much like the rapture because it
doesn't destroy anything. It just takes out all sentient life.
So like my desk, phone, laptop, Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
That's perfectly I'm lost. My clothes are gone, my clothes
are here, my spirit is gone. I'm gone. This is
very biblical, now that you think about it, strangely biblical.

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
Halo, the profit, truth, the prophet, just like you know what, folks,
go play some halo play.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
That's the answer to this question, I'm gonna play some Halo.
I'm gonna play something. Oh, I got the Xbox on Buddy.
Any final thoughts before we close out this excellent lore.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
No surprisingly surprisingly deep, surprisingly powerful, surprisingly high stakes. As
you mentioned, when I played the games the multiplayer all
these years, I never realized what was at stake in
the game. You know, they were just cut scenes that
were happening, and.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
You know, surprise, needle gun, plasma sword, what hog flip
it over? Red and blue? Uh yeah, man, play some Halo.
Don't watch the series. I take it back. There are
some nice parts of the series, but it's just gonna

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piss you off.

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
It just shouldn't be called Halo. It should be called
the Ray.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
It should be called Button Button you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
It's like, yeah, we don't chow master Chief's face.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
What are we doing?

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
The series is called Halo. Are ever gonna go on
the Halos? No? Yes, but no, not the way you
want it to.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
We didn't even get that much of Kirtana in that show.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
Kind of she was off and she was there but
not really there. Oh. Man, if you like this con
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