MOTN LORE: Teleportation Pod (The Fly)

Be afraid, Be very afraid.

Mike G, Tootie Odin, and Wash enter the world of the science fiction classic...

The Fly!

How does the teleportation pod hold up as an object of lore?

Listen and find out!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
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(00:48):
here we are. Welcome back, Nerdiverse, as we're here with
another episode, another installment of T and lare where you
the Nerdiverse chooses an object of lore and this esteemed
Algonquin group of infinites decide where it lands in the

(01:12):
grand scheme of things. Of course, your scientific miscalculation, Mike,
g you're with me is my amazing panel of awesomeness
let's go around the room real quick with a man.
We simply call wash. How are you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yo? What up?

Speaker 1 (01:28):
What's up? Man? How are you living?

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Glad to be here? I'm living well. Man. Came in
a little hot according to the value Mike, so hopefully
I didn't just blast everybody out. But yeah, man, everything's good,
you know, looking forward to talking a little science. Might
science project.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
What you know about that Brian? What you know about
that song?

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Weird science? Yeah? We we We did a podcasting the
doing the thing, so you know, yeah, I wasn't there, right.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
You already know speaking of weird science, speaking of awesome science,
the scientistness known as tudy Odin. It's Toots. What's going on? Toots?

Speaker 3 (02:15):
What's up? You were right the first time.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
I'm pretty weird, weird and unusual, as as Lady adiites,
let's say the strange and unusual. Are you ready to
talk science? Yeah, ma'am always Guys, we're talking about the fly.
We're talking about one of the most weirdest. I would say,

(02:38):
freaking what's the word. I'm looking for franchises to ever
be you know what I mean? From the old fifties
version to David Cronenberg to the remake. There's a lot
that we can cover with this funny little machine known
as the Teleportation Pod. So I'm willing to ready, ready
and willing and able to hear you guys' thoughts and

(02:59):
ideals as we dive into this subject. Any yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Watch when you say remake like you mean eighty six? Right, Yeah,
there isn't one that came out, all right. I thought
I didn't know. For a second, I thought you were
about to say, yeah, two thousand see it. That was like, no, No,
I didn't, So all right, I just want to make sure.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Starting and starring Alexander Scar's guard for some reason.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
You know, or the dude, yeah Bill, the Bill Scars Guard,
the dude who played the Crow.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah, I just watched The Crow. That's a whole other podcast.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
I just watched all the other podcasts, but a podcast.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
But yeah, I guess before we dive into this into
this uh discussion about the Teleportation Pod, I always like
to ask around the room, what's everyone's first experience with
the Fly? Did you first watch the old fifties one
as a kid? Where was your experience through the Cronyberg

(04:00):
make I'm curious to everybody's history with this, with this film,
with this film series.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
I like how you just keep calling the eighty six
the remake, even though you know, anyone listening to this
pod is like nineteen fifty one important, But it is
fun to to your point, This was a VHS type
movie that my mom brought home one day and you know,
we watched it and I was like, I don't know,

(04:27):
ten eleven, and I was like, wow, this is this
is crazy, And even at that young age, I understood
what was going on as far as the fly, the pod,
the science, and it was like, yeah, can that happen?
I hope not. Well, if it can, I just hope
it's not a fly, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
I mean, there's a lot of things that could be.
We'll break that down, but yeah, that's a pretty horrible fate,
isn't it. You know what I mean? Like, just whatever,
you go through through this. So that's cool that your
mom was Your mom is kind of like my mom,
bring home a horror movie and see what's going on.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, you know those right back when VHS's were just
hitting like at home and you could bring your movies
home and yeah, it was. It was a thing man.
So the pre Blockbuster.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
The pre Bockbluster, you know what I'm saying. Absolutely, And Toots,
what was your experience with the fly? Is it something
that was on in the odin home or is this
something you're just now getting into.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Did you just call it block bluster?

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Did I say it?

Speaker 2 (05:36):
I think I think it came out wrong, but I
heard bockbluster.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
You know, I am still getting over things. Okay, you're
lucky we're.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Making a Bockbluster night.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
No, we used to have Blackbuster in the hood. We
used to have it's called Blackbuster and it's so nothing
but black exploitation movies.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Is it still there?

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yes, it's on. It's still on Western. That's where shout
out to Bradley, Me and Browley would. They used to
call me the inquisitor because I knew what all the
movies were about, and it would suppoint in a movie.
They say, Mike, what's that one about? And I would
have to explain the plot to the movie. And we
would go to Blackbuster to ret kung fu movies? Yeah,
good times, very ghetto.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Does sound fun? Actually?

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Oh, don't go there?

Speaker 4 (06:22):
All right, Well, I guess My first experience was also
with my mom, actually watched it at home with her.
It must have been maybe four or five, and I
remember not necessarily scared me, more grossing me out. I
think the only time it really truly scared me is
when pieces of him started to fall off. I assume

(06:44):
we'll get there. For those who haven't seen the movie,
and if you haven't, come on. My first time watching
the Vincent Price one, I was actually a little bit older.
I must have been ten or eleven, and that was
at a youth girl's sleep over and it was a
Vincent Price night. So we're watching all kinds of old,
tiny horror movies and that was definitely one of them. Also,

(07:05):
fun fact, The Fly the Jeff Goldblum Won was one
of the very first movies that I can remember, like
like by immediate memories that I saw one of my
very first sex scenes. And it was I guess it
would it would have been considered a sex scene for
me for that young and the innocent didn't know what
it was. I just remember like, h this is weird,
and I till this day they make me uncomfortable. So

(07:25):
but yeah, for sure, it was definitely one of the
very first movies that I ever.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Seen a doing it scene in.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
A doing it fun fact me fun fact the more
you know, with the rainbow, and at the end it's
a fly face fly, you know what I'm saying. It's
interesting that it was like our parents that introduced us
to these weird feel because it was funny, you both.
It was your mother. For me, was my father that
introduced me to this film because my dad, you know,

(07:53):
shout out to Mike Prime, always has this pin shawl
to make scary movies funny. You would always bring humor
or to it, make it goofy. So when we watched this,
he would go help me, help me, you know, like
the fly in the fifties version. So I had that
in my head the entire time I'm watching this poor
man fall apart, you know, Adam by Adam. So it

(08:15):
was never scary, you know what I mean. It was
always funny. And one thing I would love is my
dad would scare me as a kid funny enough. He
would jump, you know, the fly would jump, you know
what I mean, Like Jef Gobl would jump off stuff
in this movie, like buildings and stuff. My dad would
do the fly jump at me when I would come
home from school. So I would come through the door
and he'd be waiting on the other side and go, ah,

(08:38):
I do the fly jump, specifically the fly jump, and
I would go, oh, dude. I would run away and
drop my books and drop my hand sandwich and run
to my mom. We would protect me. So this movie
has a special place in my heart as my dad
tormenting me and making me the hard kid I am today.
So shout outs Mike Prime, shoutouts to Fly. I'm gonna

(08:58):
probably get a lot of member berries about this movie.
That being said, you ready to dive into this conversation? Everybody, absolutely,
let's get Let's go. So I have a little so may.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
I add the Simpsons kind of ruined the Fly, but
ruined it in the best way possible, so.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
As they are to shout out to the Simpsons treehouse affort.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
You want to get sued?

Speaker 3 (09:21):
All right? Sorry?

Speaker 1 (09:22):
No, that was a good call out, amazing call out.
I have a bit of a theme with this. Lord,
I'm not a little bit of fun. So I'd like
to open our conversation with a simple invitation. Would you
have entertained a brundle in going to check out his machine?

(09:43):
That was going to change the world.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Twudy, you can, you can take that.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Absolutely. I would.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
I would have played it exactly the way Ronnie played it.
I don't think I would have changed a thing up
until the tragic end. Unfortunately, that that curiosity of that,
that introduction alone is enough to be intrigued. And of
course his charisma, he's charming, blah blah.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Blah, all of it. He's all of it.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
Now to go into how how obsessive he becomes with
it is a different story. By then it might be
too late. By then he might be balls deep in love.
Soh It's a scary thought. But honestly, I'm not sure
how much I would have changed action wise.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Yeah, Ronnie kind of played it straight right like she didn't.
That's one thing I like. I like the realism of
this movie because she really was kind of his rock
through the whole, even when she left him, because he
was stripping and he knew he was tripping, but he
was panicking at the same time. He saw what was
going down and he started to panic, so that cost him.

(10:52):
I would give I'm shooting him a little bit of
bell because I probably would have started freaking out to
my ear fell off for some bullshit. You know, I've
said I'll probably act a little, you know, but I
love that you mentioned that the beginning of this movie
is one of the most picked pitch perfect cells of
all time because she didn't know him from Adam and
come on, Jeff Goblum was one of the most electrifying actors,

(11:15):
one of the most charismatic actors of all time, so
he literally said what he needed to say, not only
to court her, but also to have someone anyone kind
of hear him out for his amazing discovery. Wash would
you have joined.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Nah what it called? BS? Man? You know, like it? Hey,
everybody's got a project, everybody's got funding, everybody's got, you know,
the next big thing, and we're at a party. Some
dude comes walking up. Yeah man, I got yeah teleporse,
I got the next revolutionary science technology breakthrough. I'm gonna

(11:51):
be like, nah BS, you want to check it out
before you call BS and be like nah BS, because
I just don't believe you. Hey, you should probably be
working on it, you know what I mean. If it's
that you should probably not be at this party right now,
well that's just me. So no, I probably wouldn't have.

(12:13):
I wouldn't have went and checked it out at as
an invitation.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Hey, bro, I got this new thing is going to
change the world. It's called bitcoin. All I need is
like ten thousand dollars, bro, and we can get this.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Maybe if you told me that at a bar back
in twenty and ten, I was like, you're nuts. Or
twenty eleven and I was like, yeah, you're nuts. By
twenty fourteen, I was like, oh, you know what, there
may be something to it.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
Maybe, remember her, her initial motivation was to get it,
to get a good story, to get the school. Her
initial motivation was to get the scoop to to make
it big as a journalist.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
So you know, science party, you know what I mean? Right,
science people?

Speaker 1 (12:58):
There there was thanking, So yeah, sorry, you guys made
me think of that man's party. It was it was
it was like it was like a conference, right, It
was like a convention and something like that. Like it
was like a little.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Shake convention with alcohol and wine and alcohol and booths,
you know.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
And uh And I love the part where she's like, oh,
this is gonna bereat. I'm gonna take this right back
to the Daily Bugle. She's like, no, you're not. What
are you talking about. No, you're not. You're not taking
any of this back. I would never tell this to
a reporter. You just told this to a reporter. No,
that's not what I met. And he had to fight
tooth and neil to be like, just see me through,

(13:40):
see this through the entire experiment. Then I'll let you
publish it. But don't do it now. It's too premature.
Things need to be tested. Wop to woop. So, like
you said, I like her moxy. She gives off like
Lois Lane. Vibes to me like a dark version of Superman,
you know what I mean, Like she's she has, she's

(14:01):
full of gumption, and she's full of like get them.
But like you said, too, she slowly falls in love
with this guy, and it's it's kind of like real life.
You know, you don't know somebody until you know him.
And now you're in love with let's say a psychopath
or a narcissist. In this case, you're in love with
a fly and you're screwed because you're dancing with a lizard.

(14:22):
You know what I mean. Get out, you can't. You're
in love, bro Get out, You're in love you can't.
You gotta see it through out of here. Crazy stuff, dude.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Oh Man, On to the next slide, Mike, would you
have went to the party?

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Me? Hell yeah, Yes, Yes, I'm the guy. I'm telling you,
I'm the guy who pokes the blob with the stick
and then instantize. You know what I'm saying, I'm the
dude who puts on the green lantern. You know what
I'm saying, that my buddy. You know, if Bradley told me,
Mike I found an Angel, I have it tied up
in my backyard, I would take a hit off the
butt and go check it out. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
I'm bad.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
You know now, if he told me that he has
a fully functional Ironman suit, I would call BS, but
I'll be right there to check it out. You know
what I'm saying. You got no Iron Man suit?

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (15:12):
You trip it? Oh? When kind of come over.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Bradley's trustworthy though I would believe Bradley too.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Braddie wouldn't lie about having an angel.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
I can actually beat up title angel in his garage.
He probably would, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Like Bradley would have done DNA tests and ship for it,
just to know for sure, just to make sure it
was a wrong. Bradley will never be wrong.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
I've never seen him right.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yes, I trust that.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
That's that's a fun fact. Bradley's never been wrong in
my whole life of knowing him. It's weird speaking of
things that were wrong. The miscalculation, dude, the mistake that
is as a through line to this entire series. It's
the miscalculation. It's it happened in the Fly one, it
happened in the in the Fly remake. It didn't happen

(15:58):
in the Fly too, but we'll talk about the Fly
to because I love the Fly too. But it's the
idea that it's not even a mistake, it's it's really
just him overlooking something like who would have thought that
anything could have went into the transporter pod with him?
He didn't take that precaution, He didn't think to take
that precaution, and it cost them his life in the

(16:18):
most horrific way possible. What are you guys' thoughts on
just science and how delicate it is, how easy it
is to create a skynet, how easy it is to
accidentally create the t virus, you know, or in this
case create bundle fly.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Well, yeah, I mean that. As I said, I think
everyone should have a science experiment, you know what I mean? So,
you know, for my purposes, i'd probably be out here,
you know, doing experiments of minychlorians that don't exist in
our bodies. But everybody's got to have their thing. So,
as we talked about with Jurassic Park, it comes back

(17:02):
to Bartok Industries and them putting the money down and going,
you know what, here's a scientist, here's some technology. I
think we can make some advances with said technology. Let's
see what happens.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
And then Shenanigan's ensuit.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Now, yes, it's an oversight on Brundle's part two, you know,
not not now that you think about it. His apartment
was pretty dirty, right, it grows to have a have
a clean facility like that. It's like, man, you probably
should have thought about that end of it attadment or

(17:39):
but he didn't, so miss miss Yeah, oversight, misstep definitely
a forgotten crucial part of this.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Very crucial part. Geez, what are your thoughts to.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
I think scientists want to go into projects like this,
especially ambitious ones like this, go into it prepared sort
of to understand that there's risks involved no matter what.
That's why most of sciences trial and air ninety eight
percent of science trial and air until you get the
right the right thing, Like, everything is stupid until it
makes sense, you know, on a on.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
A secular level.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
So yeah, I I I can't imagine as a scientist
and a genius mind you given the proof in his
in his apartment. Scientists don't have time to clean, they
don't have time. They have there there there there. Their
brains are reflection. It reflects on the outside. So as
much as this is going on here, that's how much

(18:36):
is going on in his kitchen and in his living
room and his bathroom, et cetera. So it's it's all reflective,
it's all it's all this idea that I am one
thousand and ten percent involved in this project and nothing
but this project, which is interesting to me because the
broad gets in the way, you know what I mean,
she does kind of get in the way, you know,
But it's still it's still doesn't completely make him lose
his focus. In fact, it drives him even more to

(18:59):
get this done and rush it. I mean, how many
times did he blow up monkeys, you know, before he
actually was able to succeed, you know, so you know,
so that didn't scare him though, So it's not like
he didn't understand the risks.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
He was still playing for D chess.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
He may not have accounted for anything going into the chamber,
be it a fly, be it a speck of flu dust,
be it whatever, you know, but those risks were always there,
and by by him playing for D chess, would I
would have thought that maybe he would.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Have done a few more tests and said just said, cool, the.

Speaker 4 (19:32):
Monkey made it out, let's go, and then he kind
of just immediately rushed to do it himself. I'm not
really sure what the motive is behind him doing the
outside of you know, hey, I can teleport people. You know,
that was Tesla's dream, right, so this was something this
is a scientific fantasy that he was actually trying to
make happen. You know, tells those old as time Tesla

(19:54):
did it, Tesla was killed for it, right, So this
is just an idea of I'm going to try to
do it again. This is just like a like these
scientists have a heart on for this, for these types
of things, respectfully, So that'd be an amazing thing to
be able to invent something like that and be able
to succeed. I think we're there, to be honest, we
just we just don't know it. But yeah, like his
his rushing into this and uh is what made it

(20:18):
even more riskier than the natural risks that science would have.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Period. So very good point, A very good point in
regards to Tesla being thinking I could be the one
to crack this noodle, to do the impossible, to make,
to make magic flesh. And I would like to point
out that during this experiment, the major miscalculation, he got
shit faced drunk. He was drunk when he did it.

(20:41):
And because he was still pissed because Geena Davis's character
got in his head and mixed them up, you know
what I mean. He was upset about that. What did
he say? You know, boys, I would never ask you
to do what I wouldn't ask of myself. And that's
what he jumped into the transporter pod because he felt
like he cracked the code. Because he exploded like three

(21:01):
monkeys and he had one left that was his buddy.
He said, you know what, I'm not gonna have you
do it. I'll do it. Forget it. It's it's got
to be right baboons. Yeah, and I think his anger,
his hubrious like you mentioned, dudes, him being on thousand
percent playing forward the chest right on top of a
debriation cost him his life. And that terrible miscalculation of

(21:25):
not checking one checking your software because if he had
certain self felp, if you have certain feil sapes and set,
the system would have never fired because it would have
found the foreign contaminant to to quote to quote Wally,
foreign contaminant. You know what I'm saying. But he said, no,

(21:46):
there's something else in here. But it goes back to
him mentioning the computer. A computer only does what you
tell it to do. It doesn't know how to do
anything else. So the computer if put the computer in
a position where it had to be creative, and that's
the worst thing you want a computer to do, is
being creative. And then it's just saying, you know, we're
just gonna merge both of you genetically because we don't

(22:07):
know what to do with the spare data, so we're
gonna merge the data. One plus one, right, one plus
one one plus one equals one. And that's kind of
like the biggest folly is that he it was shoddy programming.
It's like a Windows update. Speaking of Windows up there,
Shout out to Windows, because out Windows, we wantn't have
this beautiful layout, you know what I mean, kind of

(22:27):
destroying our previous setups. So shout out to Windows, just
making us evolve. So, but that's a little inside baseball
for those MLT and masters out there, all right. Next,
I want to talk about the loss of self, of
the loss of identity that these characters of the Fly

(22:47):
go through. And this is a scene of not Brundle,
but the original Fly kind of still being human, but
not showing that grotesquely, not showing his transformation to his
wife who's just trying to understand what's going on. So
I want to ask the team what's scarier. Is it
being a monster or is it becoming the monster? What

(23:12):
do you think?

Speaker 3 (23:13):
I would say it's becoming the monster.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Diag toots.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
For sure, it's becoming the monster.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
And I think the difference between the original and this
one is that in the original was instantaneous. He changed
in the blink of an eye, which is horrific and devastating,
but it's not something that.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
You see there's a lot of metaphoric.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
Symbolism in this nineteen eighty six version where the Brundle
Fly or Seth Brundle is gradually changing into the Brundofly,
and people, a lot of people have equated that to
him just becoming terminally ill and changing.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
I was watching something recently.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
As as I once I realized we're going to study this,
and somebody had mentioned something called Kafka's metamorphosis, which is
basically a theory about Bart, a fella who basically, like
like Seth Brundle, completely saturates himself in his work to
the point where he disappears from his family because he's
so involved. He ends up getting sick. Nobody notices, and

(24:18):
then when they do notice, it's so bad they just
kind of find him inconvenient and they just want him
to be exterminated, basically like an insect. So it's it's
it was very, very similar, and that it's kind of
heartbreaking to think about it that way. This isn't just
science that went awry. This is somebody's life that changed
with a turn like absolutely disgustingly terminally ill illness, whatever

(24:43):
it is, and he doesn't figure it out for a while,
which is interesting for a scientist. He doesn't figure out
what's going on for a while. You know, he starts
getting all these superpowers and he's like, look what I
can do now, and wow, this is I feel energetic.
I haven't felt this way forever. And then all of
a sudden he starts throwing up like white shit. He's like,
uh oh oh, but it gets this checked out. And
then once he actually starts to realize it. I don't

(25:04):
know if it's his ego getting in the way, CogniFit dissonance,
who knows.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
But once he figures it out.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
He already figures it out that it's too late, and
I feel like he already knows that he can't reverse it.
I don't think he even tries very much. Now, mind you,
I didn't watch I didn't watch it. I haven't seen
it in many years, actually, so I don't remember so
much how much he actually tries his best to reverse it.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
I don't think he does, though. I think he accepts
his fate pretty quickly and he just wants.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
I think when once he accepts it is when he decides, well,
I got to try to get help somewhere.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
He asks. He asks Ronnie for help. What is she
going to do?

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (25:39):
You know, no, I do have to tell you for
the remake. Uh. He kind of loses his mind as
he becomes more fly than man and decides that he
needs to go into the pod with someone else to
purge his cells and oh yeah, yeah the fly and
then he goes crazier. It says, no, Ronnie, I want

(25:59):
to merge with you and the baby. Then we can
become a super preacher. And that's when Ronnie is like, nah,
I'm god, it's straight.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
And then that's when she decides they need to break up,
and that's.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
When she decides things aren't working out. But yeah, it's
it's the it's the loss of self. And like you say,
great great call out in regards to, you know, the
theory of Kafka in losing yourself to something to the
point where you become unrecognizable and then you look, you
look in the mirror one day and you're not the
same person, and people don't want to be bothered with

(26:33):
you because you're completely different. Detrimental even to not just
yourself with those around you. What are your thoughts on
this watch?

Speaker 2 (26:42):
I would say that a degree to become the monster
is probably a tad bit worse, especially when you were
not a monster to begin with, thus uh throwing you
into a new series of experience and uncertainties. I did
not call you Siri close enough apparently. Uh so, Yeah,

(27:10):
so that that is a thing that I would absolutely
agree with. But you know, there's something to be said.
You know, how much of him was man after the
initial like transparent? Uh, transfiguration happened or whatever the case,
whatever word we want to use. The mutation happened is

(27:32):
you know, Brundle is still Brundle, But is Brundle man
or is Brundle fly and all? Because you're man on outside,
does that mean you can be fly inside? So when
you talk about to become the monster, it's like, yeah, dude,
that kind of sucks.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Yeah what did he say? He said, I used to
dream that I was a man becoming a fly, but
now I'm starting to realize that I'm always want to fly,
and I dreamt of being a man. By now the
dream is over. That's what he told her before he said,
never see me again, because I'll hurt you if you
stay flies have no politics. I will I'm starting to

(28:12):
lose my humanity and I can feel myself slipping. And
that's a scary thing to say to someone you love,
you know, like, I don't know what I will do
to you because the fly is taking over. Because this,
like to mention, this illness is taking over. It almost
reminds me of residied evil too, you know what I mean,

(28:33):
kind of like his wife, you know, who was dying
of that illness, started getting nasty to him and changing
and started silent silent hill. Is it evil too?

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, you said, I'm like I did. This isn't making
sense to me right now.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
I'm I'm no longer a master with a Nerdi verse
silent Hill too, Thank you? Sorry about that where his
wife started getting ill and she started changing on him,
kind of like and it wasn't her fault, wasn't his
fault or something happening, and now he was. He got
to the point where he literally wanted to kill her.
And I think in Ronnie's case, that wasn't the case

(29:09):
until his until his humanity was completely gone, until he
was full fly end of the movie, barfing on Homeboy's leg.
Up until that, she sympathized with him, even when he
was all. But Nikki had in fly it, you know
what I'm saying. But he was still talking. Tried to
talk to her.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
But I'd like to say that the fly too. When
you're talking about to become the monster, like like Seth
or Martin Martin, let's talk fly too, Let's fly too.
Like Martin is born the fly, He's born the monster.
He doesn't. He becomes a monster, yes, but he's actually

(29:45):
born as such. So in this instance, when we're talking
about that initial experiment with the fly it, it changed
things on a cellular level so much that like the
kid didn't have to go through he just inherited the fly.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
He just hit puberty and kind of like the X Man,
it started changing into the fly. He cocooned. I love
the fly too. Yeah, it's and we're going to talk
about Is that the next slide? I don't know. Let's see, Yes,
a legacy and horror. Great segue there, Wash, I like
talking about Seth Brundle, talking about Martin Brundle. In the

(30:27):
events of Fly two, you mentioned what's the name of
the evil corporation in that one?

Speaker 2 (30:32):
You just said it, uh bar Bartok Industry exactly, Bartech Bartak, Yeah,
Bartech Bartech Industries. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Where Martin was raised as a as a lab rat
and he inherited two things was his father's mind. In fact,
it was smarter than his father. But the problem was
that he because he would have the genetic I would say,
gift of Brundle, he aged fast her. So he's a

(31:02):
teenager here, but in the film he's like five years
old or something like that. Right, he's like five or four.
So he's stunted and he's trying to cure himself. And
this is where you have the there's no excuse of
miscalculation because he's right on the money and he's inside
a sterile, you know, facility, almost like a resident evil

(31:25):
type situation. Going back to my miscalculation. Nice and you
kind of walk with him falling in love his new
girlfriend who's played by Princess Vespa and Spaceballs Shout out Spaceballs.
She plays his girlfriend and just watching him change. And
one of my favorite scenes is or he's on the

(31:47):
couch all jacked up and he rips his eye out
and he's like I can see better, and she's like eh,
but she has she's gonna stand beside him because she
loves him, right, but he literally just ripped off a
doctating lens of his eye and now you can see
an ultra vision, you know, So you know I love
this legacy of Heard. The only thing missing is the
original nineteen fifty six. So I would like to ask everyone,

(32:11):
what are your thoughts on kind of them making the
same mistake, not necessarily, it's not it's not even not
making the same mistake. Brundle is the catalyst and Martin
kind of had just to live with it. What are
your thoughts on like having to inherit the sins of
the father? I guess is the better question? What you got?

Speaker 2 (32:34):
All right? Well, what I'm gonna say in regards to
this issue is specifically the company Bartek Bartak. I'm getting
it confused with another movie at this stage or another name,
but they're the ones who were like, you know what,

(32:54):
we're gonna watch Martin grow up, and we're gonna take
full advantage of whatever situation is going to come out
of this. We're just gonna sit back and watch, but
we are one hundred percent following in. So yes, Martin's gifted,
advanced gifted brain was hopeful, but again he's emotionally stunted

(33:16):
at like five, which he really was in essence kind
of emotionally stunded at five. So there isn't a lot
of control that he had to deal with this. I mean,
he did go in and start wrecking some shop, don't
get me. Yeah, he did get angry, but and he
did find a way to cure himself. Spoiler. But at
the end of the day, the company becomes the catalyst

(33:39):
for this. And as I'm I was thinking about this,
the Jurassic Park thing just kept popping into my head
because it's like, you know, everybody just playing with their genetics,
but in this one instance, there was no necessarily good
reason for it. Well, they wanted they wanted defense technology.
That's how to sold something like that, right, But how

(34:02):
do you go from like defense technology to human lab
fly like growing up? You know what I mean? It's
a leap, It's a large leap. And so the company,
the company's kind of shady. In fact, we should really
rank all these companies in terms of just.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Awfo, the top ten top ten.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Terrible.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Weren't they trying to like master the teleportation devices as well?

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Yes, yes, they wanted to use it for military advancements.
Is just to be able to teleport, you know, group
of soldiers one soldier, fifteen whatever from one place to
the next be a huge advantage, which made sense.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Makes sense? What are your thoughts?

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Why do you keep the fly and you can call
me Dad?

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Hey, it's a byproduct.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Martin can't teleport me, you know what I mean? He
can get the machine the work. But I think I
think by part two in the Legacy, it kind of
lost itself a little bit, which is kind of a
shame that there was never a follow up because I
talk about like just horror films that could be picked

(35:13):
back up someday, and like this is one that there's
nothing you got. You got two movies, like a documentary
and like the original, There you go, there you go.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
What are your thoughts too?

Speaker 4 (35:26):
It's so I read recently that they're going to bring back,
bring it back to the franchise. I don't know if
it's a remake. I don't know if it's part three,
but I read that it is coming back soon and
that was as of twelve weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
I think is where.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
I saw it or not when I saw it, But
that's like the timeline of when I think that news
came out. I don't know for sure, but yeah, I
heard that that's in the works. But that's probably in
the works with a lot of other things too, So
I don't know what the original question was.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
What was the original question?

Speaker 1 (36:00):
I guess how do you feel about, you know, Martin
Brundle in regards to him inheriting the sins of the
father and having to fix the problems that his dad cost,
you know what I.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
Mean, I'm not I'm not really necessarily of the idea
that he had to I don't think he had to
do much of anything aside from him wanting to cure himself.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
I suppose, I don't. I didn't see.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
I didn't see, uh, the second one, I've I've only
seen it in clips, so I didn't see it because
it probably felt it felt like it was already pretty
much the first one. You're gonna do the same exact thing,
and then the the story of the military defenses to
Talis all this time itself. Everybody uses that as escapegoat,

(36:51):
So I don't know. Plot wasn't there for me, same story.
It's cool that he cured himself, that's neat. Yeah, I mean,
as far as I don't know. Was he a scientist too,
Did he go into science the way his dad did?

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Or was he just so he was like applied science. Yeah,
he was doing like some Tony Stark stuff.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
Like nepotistic science like genetics, like I don't know, but okay, yeah,
I don't know. I would I wouldn't necessarily call it
like stubborn. I wouldn't call it curiosity. I would call
it maybe bored, maybe needing to follow on the footsteps
of somebody you'd never met before, and and you know,

(37:35):
uh maybe that maybe maybe it was truly just an answer.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Was he suffering? Was he just advancing? Was he like
uh eleven and stranger things?

Speaker 4 (37:47):
You know?

Speaker 3 (37:47):
So what what? What was? What? Do you? What?

Speaker 4 (37:50):
Would you guys say his initial motivation would have been
to actually try to replicate what his dad was doing.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
It's you put it. You make a lot of good points.
It's like, was he trying to live up to his
father that he'd never know, would never know? There's a
little bit of that in Martin, you know what I mean?
He has a rebellious eye, like wash was saying. He
was wrecking shop even before he started transforming, because he
had enhanced. He had enhanced abilities, right, wasn't he have
like super strength and super spiky from the get go?

(38:18):
So and I think he was trying to complete his
dad's work at the end of the day. But like
Wash said, Bar Talk Industries had under had other plans.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
You know, well, he was kind of manipulated in the
completing work. It's not like he was given an option.
They stayed. They pretty much showed him footage of what
his dad did and created and was like, yeah, finish this.
And he's like, okay, y'all seem nice.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
You guys feed me right, I'm five, fine, fine, his
cool place I could do stuff.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
You know. That's my opinion on it.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Interesting, very good. I would like to talk about Fear
of the Unknown and Sto Steak. Shoutouts Tooth for getting
us these great images for this episode and just this
clean shot of Ronnie kind of like what the hell
am I even looking at? And just to circle back
around to the just design of the teleportation pods is iconic.

(39:25):
I love that almost hr Giger kind of almost bile
almost like bio armor is the way word I'm thinking
about when it comes to the design of the pods.
I never I've never seen anything like it, and it just.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
I mean, you know, they shipped from Alien, right, That's
what I've always like related to it. They were they
were like the same kind of design.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Yeah, Like it looked like a xenomorph egg in a
weird way, right like, and like it was always smoky,
and every time something went into it, something weird happened,
like when he put like when you put the craziest
scene and it's like the Toots mentioned the scene where
he puts the baboon in and it's smoky and it's
bright and you see as a bloody stub start slapping

(40:14):
the window. You're like, what the fuck? And they look
inside and it's turned inside out, and it's like, well,
if that didn't work, you know what I mean, Like,
why would you put your body in that, you know,
fear of the unknown? Why would you do that? Science?
Is it just science?

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Are you that in science?

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Science? It's like, no, you never enter that ever. And
she saw that. She was there for that experiment, and
he did the cute thing where he put the stocking
in and Okay, I'm flirting, but no, he put a live,
beautiful baboon that loved him in started that thing. That
thing came out looking like immortal Kombe fatality, and it's like,

(40:53):
why would you ever test that on people? And it's
like I think about like the fear of the un known,
our lack of thereof, because Tuty hit it on the
nose with him just being so full of himself and
being having such hubris to say, I've figured it's not
a thousand percent, there's no way this is gonna go wrong.
I'm gonna do it now. He didn't turn inside out,

(41:16):
but honestly, I would have preferred that to the fate
he had. Do you like the fear of the unknown
in science fiction or in horror or in any kind
of media. Is that that the fear of the unnon't
bother you? Is it annoying to You's like, oh, why
would you do that? Does it take you out of
the of the of the of the movie? I guess
it is? My question? Are the are the property just

(41:38):
ignoring that?

Speaker 3 (41:40):
I think it makes it that much more terrifying.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
Yeah, I think well, just being in a movie or
in real life, the fear of the unknown and science
is very much part of the fear of the unknown,
and especially UH Ocean UH study of the ocean, oceanography
or whatever. I can imagine being a deep diver or
something like like those those scientists, like those guys live

(42:05):
with fear, scientists that deal with viruses and stuff like that.
One slip of the hand and it falls on the floor,
and like there's all kinds of freaking out happening.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
You know.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
I'm granted they're protected, but you know, it's literally the
fear of the unknown. You'll never know what can happen.
You could take that into any aspect, any profession, to
be honest, but yeah, I think it works well.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
And Cronenberg.

Speaker 4 (42:29):
Kronenberg does an amazing jump master of the unknown and
everything he does to the point where like, yeah, you
you cannot you cannot leave or you cannot watch a
Kronenberg movie and not continue to think about the rest
of the day.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
You know, visually they're insane. The storylines are disturbing.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
The dialogues equally, is is dry and and just like
it's it's a it's a build up to something, you know,
something a hard turn. It's uh, yeah, it's it's it's
upsetting Kronenberg move These are upsetting.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
It's upsetting. Yeah, it's what's even the fear of what's
happening to me, you know what I mean, Like the
fear of illness, the fear of I can't I don't
understand why I feel this way. I think everyone can
relate to that, especially as we get older. It's like
I don't understand what's happening to me. I don't understand
what's happening to you, are her or And it's that

(43:23):
fear of the unknown, like I don't know how to
deal with this, that just gets right under your skin.
And like you said, Crownenberg is the master of of
you know, of of disgust, to quote the great Giebo Delterro.
You know, with visca red liquids, you just don't know.
And it's like the fear of the unknown hits Brundle

(43:43):
on many front, especially when he starts to get acne
and he starts to stick to walls. And it's fun
until it's not. Like you mentioned, it's fun until it's not.
And then you know you're you're like laid up and
you're dying, but you're not done. You're getting stronger, You're
just changing. I don't know what's gonna happen, you know
it it's such an ugly feeling. What are your thoughts

(44:05):
on that?

Speaker 3 (44:05):
Be?

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Right? U? I you know I could go into this
whole thing, but I'm not. I'm just gonna say that
it's necessary to both the the media experience as well
as the human experience. So yeah, I'll leave it at that.

(44:26):
That's my two cents. That's necessary growth.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
It is not always fun.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Growth can be scary, correct growth, In fact, it probably
shouldn't be shit.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
No, don't get you're getting too deep now though I
don't you.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
You're the one firing off the questions. You know what's
gonna happen. Yoda's gonna come out. He stop it.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
They call it's it's growing pains for a reason, right,
Oh Jesus, importance to the Lord. Let's get to the
nitty gritty. Here's a picture of The Fly to talked
about a little. I think it's an underrated film. If
you haven't seen The Fly Too, it's not Schindler's List, man,
it's not a cinema. But if you want to really

(45:09):
just have a night where you're watching the Fly movies,
it's cinema.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
You have to. I think it's quality. I think it's
a solid, solid movie that there will be a couple
of parts where you kind of roll your eyes and
you're like, that's goofy. But as an overall experience, I
think that it will provide more more entertainment than a

(45:33):
random Netflix movie.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
You're not wrong. They don't make them like this, you know,
like and it's just I love the look of the
teleportation pods. I would have one in all reason. I
wanted one in my house, like I'm that guy. I
would want one like in my game room or like
my my you know, my quote unquote man cave or whatever.
Because they're just so interesting to look at.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
When you say teleportation like pod or telepretation, This is
what comes to mind. Star Trek is not the first
thing that pops to mine. This pops to mind every
single time when you talk about, oh, is there gonna
be telepretation one day? I imagine in my head these
black pods like all over the country like phone boots,

(46:19):
you know what I mean for those of us who
remember phone Boots.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
Do you feel and it's kind of a load of
question because I know how I feel about it, but
do you feel that the can there be a Fly
series without these pods? How important are they to the lore?

Speaker 2 (46:39):
This is the question, right, This is the.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Question can the fly? Can you eat the moon if
it was made of ribs? Is how important? Are Can
there be a fly movie? Can there any be any
other means or any other method that he can turn
into a fly where these pods are crucial to the
cruck so the of the plot.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Of the world for that it would just be another machine.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
No, no, h like that's all I feel I feel
like if it.

Speaker 4 (47:12):
Wasn't the telepods it would be it would be another machine.
All he should all he really needed to do is
put a screen door on. It would have been fine,
but yes.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
Important, This like a bugs effort in front of that bitch.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
The magnet ones.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
Yeah, the one if dude, like putting a little like
screen in front of it, and then the entire universe
changing like pods everywhere like Utopia, rainbows and ship and
it's like just a snap of one screen door.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Get it together, broke you change.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
I just hung a fly swatter on the inside.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
I put one of those little fly stickies on the
outside of it, and where in Utopia we figured it out.
I'm a quintillionaire now, you know. I own Earth now
no man like I mean, it's it's the story, it's
the it's the maguffin, right, it's the it's the crux

(48:17):
of everything, too absolute, one hundred percent. They just needed
to get to fly, and this is the way to
get to fly, right. It's the story is not about
the pods themselves, it's about the transformation of man to
beast man the monster. But I think it's a brilliant
way to get from point A to point B is

(48:37):
to have this be a mad scientist, maybe from the fifties,
maybe from Brundle, and these pods are kind of the
doorway you like, you go to that door, you're coming
out something completely different, you know what I mean. I
think that's just the horrors of science, the horrors of change,
the horrors of growing. I think there's a lot of
metaphor that it's important that these pods represent to where

(49:00):
it's they would not the story would not be the
same without him. That's just my stance on it. What
do you guys think about that?

Speaker 2 (49:07):
I'd agree with you in the fact that if it
was a fly biting Brundle and he turned into Brendle fly,
probably not as interesting. If he were to have been
in a car accident and was accidentally, like uh, injected
with some sort of fly serum, probably wouldn't have made

(49:32):
as much. Yeah, like it wouldn't have it probably just
wouldn't have hit as well as oh shit, he let
a fly in there with him, which brings you back
to like your earlier question, like like the mistake, the
the oversight, and that is the horror movie. That is

(49:54):
the that is the moment is oh shit, is there
a fly in there with him? Nothing good is gonna
come out of that? Nah? Oh well the nurse injected
him with the wrong bag and now he's a fly?

Speaker 1 (50:06):
Oops?

Speaker 2 (50:08):
So fly?

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Yeah, what do you? What's your thoughts to.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
Already said mine? But yes, yes, it's important.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Okay, I'm sorry, you've said your piece. Okay, let's do it.
And now with the last gross image of Bardell with
like a bag of chips on the floor, you don't
see has a bag of like of like oatmeal cookies
on the floor. That's any wonders why you have fly problems? Yes,

(50:40):
crap everywhere, get it together, dark, you're fucking scientist. Where
are we scoring this fantalism? That's realism, that's that's that's
some oat mill creams right there, Flies and ship get
it together, bro from on a from a zero to
five score? Where is everybody sitting with the teleportation pod.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
As important to the law as a low power RAI like,
mm hmm, you answer first, Okay.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
I'll answer first. I'll do it. I think this is
up there. I think, like you mentioned that the horror
of the situation is the mistake, is the miscalculation, and
that can't happen without the teleportation pods. So I would
give it nice, short, sweet answer. I would give it

(51:36):
a four out of five. I think the story doesn't
happen without them. I think it's less science. It stops
being science fiction without them, it can it goes into
horror if it's if you just woke up one Dane,
what's a fly bit by a radio active fly, cursed
by some kind of you know, magician to become a fly?

(51:57):
It's all less interesting than a scientist making a grave mistake,
you know what I mean? And it adds a lot
of weight to the metaphor, which is, you know, science
gone wrong.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
You know, so I was bit by a spider? What
you don't become a spider now?

Speaker 1 (52:12):
Or no, I just get I just get sexy and
get super buffed.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Like I get ABS Bros.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Bro Bro shuts for you, Bro, I get precognition in ABS.
L take.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
I can slurp up my food.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
Now I can take knelt through iron with my vomit.
Cool story, bro, I'm with Mary Jenny. We have all
types of kids, you know, bug life. My ear fell off,
my ear, well, my ear fell off. Did you notice that?

(52:53):
Like you can see his penis in his in his
little like you can in his little uh uh? This
medicine cabinet of oddities, you can see fly Paen in there,
like he's he's like starting to collect that ship. Nice.
I'm just pointing out things because we're never gonna talk
about this again. You get it all. I'm gonna, you know, get.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
It all out out true. And so I'm going to
sum it up. And I will also go a four
out of five because I do believe that there is
the half ass uh, the half assed chance that the
company randomly stumbles onto something like this. There's another scientist
that's sitting in his apartment making teleportation pods. In fact,

(53:46):
around this corner, I could have a teleportation pod. You
don't know.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
I would.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
That's how come out of it. And ever, let you
see what's around the corners, like a four out of five.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Nice?

Speaker 3 (53:59):
No, right there with you guys, four out of five,
let's go we've ever been like Yeah, the reason why
is pretty much exactly what Brian said.

Speaker 4 (54:10):
It's because anybody could be doing this. Anybody can make
a teleportation pod. It doesn't have to be a telepod.
It could be a porta potty, it could be a
phone booth, it could be you know what I mean.
It doesn't really matter what the vessel is or what
you call it. There's always has to there definitely has
to be a vessel in order for this to happen.
And this just happens to be the telepod.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
So yeah, four out of five, giving the average to
be four nice.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
So we're pretty high. We're pretty up on the on
the fly, We're pretty up on the teleportation pod. It's
an object of lore that is amazing. I'm very happy
because the fly means a lot to me. As I
mentioned earlier, it's like one of those cornerstone films that
grew up with as a kid, and it makes me
happy that you guys enjoyed it as much as I do.

(54:56):
Now when we do the Lore on rawhird Rex, I
hope you guys are just as excited to talk about
that cornerstone of horror cinema. Look look at them, Look
at them, nerd Averse. They're not co citing at all,
at them, at them.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
I have tuned out, So you know what, I don't
know what you I don't know what you said, but you, guys,
it wasn't important.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
You guys tune in to this episode and watch this
amazing lure for top quality items of lore and not
stuff that only Mike g wants to talk about. Any
closing thoughts on The Fly. This is the probably the
last time we're going to talk about it, and there's
much death. What are your thoughts on these series in
general before we close out? Well, I mean, if they.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Make a part three, we may come back, because I
definitely want to talk about it. But overall, if you
have not seen The Fly, you should definitely watch The
Fly and the Fly Part two and the original Fly,
even though you know it's nineteen fifty eight, so very good.
Do what you want with that, but yeah, you should
definitely check it out. Definitely worth to watch.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
What about you Toot's.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
Well, I will say I agree with Brian.

Speaker 4 (56:02):
Watch all three even though I didn't watch all three.
I didn't watch the third one yet, and I suppose
I will. Uh but yeah, they're not for the faint heart,
but they are excellent, excellent movies.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Fun fact, really quick.

Speaker 4 (56:14):
David Cronenberg turned down doing total recall in order to
make the fly.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
So can you imagine David Cronenberg total recall? Man?

Speaker 2 (56:24):
You know what I tacked that? I like, not the
total recall. Like I'm glad he did the fly over
total recall, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, guy,
prefer to half the fly.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
The three boob Chick would have been crazy, Doug. She
would have been out of control dog. She would have
had like tentacles and ship. The boobs would have had
little faces on them that like whispered to you and shit.
Coderberg would have made it wild. Can you imagine, uh, klatu.
You know as as a Cronenberg creature, you'd have been

(56:57):
like opened your mind you have done that ship, you
know what I'm saying. You would have opened your mind,
just been oozed.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
There would have been way way more ooze.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
It just would have been really sure wet.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
The clime for no reason. Yeah, wet, super wet movie.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
I got five kids to feed, don't get me started on.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
And he's wet. He's wet for no reason.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
He's just soaked. Some kind of slimy liquid, some kind
of viscerous.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
Leaves him because I know I threw it in. Therefore,
well recalled up one day, you shut up?

Speaker 1 (57:41):
Okay, Uh last thoughts, I can't speak enough about this movie.
I agree with you both. I agree with Toots, this
is not for the faint of heart. I agree with
wash this is I think this is up there for
any hard, hard kid. If you're newer into the genre,
do yourself a favor. Watch all three flies. You're gonna

(58:05):
find something enjoyable about all of them. And though I'm
really skeptical of a remake of The Fly, are even
a sequel? If you know, I would love if Kronenberg's
kid directed it, because you know, Kronenberg's kid is really good.
Like I forget the gentleman's name, but I think he
did that most recent movie with the with Demi Moore

(58:26):
that was up for like an Oscar or something like that.
Substance substance. I think he has something to do with that.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
Oh no kidding, Yeah, he's Can you see the effects
on that.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
Movie out of Control? I need to watch that movie.
I never seen it. I haven't seen it yet. Me too.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
I didn't know that was him.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
I thought that's him. I could be wrong, correct me
if I'm wrong, Nerdi Verse. But if his son did
the fly, I would be hype. I would be like, yeah,
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