MOTN Random Select: Persepolis (2007) Vs. Kick-Ass (2010)

Welcome to MOTN Random Select! The Nerdiverse randomly chooses 8 films that must battle within a pop culture genre and we pick who will win! Round One: Persepolis (2007) Vs. Kick-Ass (2010) Will the harrowing animated true story of a young girl defeat the comic book fans biggest dream? Watch and find out!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
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(01:11):
all around before we go over the preliminaries. I'm, of
course your host, Mike g with me today on the mic,
is wash himself and of course break dancing in the
back like crazy Legs is too to odin. How we
feeling tonight? People's what's up?

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Very well? Right, there's some Mortal Kombat.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
That that was a review checking out MOTN dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
I still haven't seen the new Mortal Kombat.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
But you don't need to. You don't need to. It
may show up on a random select one day. We
don't know, so you may be asking yourself nerder verse,
what's a random select? So what this is is a
competition between eight films that we random select based on
his genre. We have done this multiple times in the
past with comedies, We've done it with horror. Today our

(02:03):
topic of discussion graphic novels. Everything graphic novels. So we
pit two films against each other, randomly selected, and through
the panel of three, we decide who was the victor
to become the grand Random Select Champion. Have I left
anything out? Team?

Speaker 2 (02:23):
No? No, you're not.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Beautiful. Let's get this started. So you're asking yourself, how
did we get here? And this is like the second
third time we said this joke on the channel in
the last three days. This is not my beautiful house.
It never gets so, so today we have two couldn't
be more polar opposite films, I would say, And geez,
watching these back to back was like a freakin' horror.

(02:54):
We'll talk about it, you know, we can talk. This
is the preliminary, so let's talk about it. Let's talk
about our experience with these two films before we go
into the deep dive. So I gotta tell you I
was late to the party with this. I literally watched
both of these films back to back last night, literally
back to back, and it is the craziest juxtaposition of

(03:17):
fucking moods.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Like I was just talking to some one today. Per
is like a steak, the last steak you got from
like your great Nona, and it's the most delicious steak,
and it brings back all these memories. It it's like
you're crying because the steak is so good it reminds
you of home. And then kick Ass is like a

(03:40):
four loco, you know what I mean? That Djason down
and I don't know how to feel after this experience.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Are house after that four loco?

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, you're washing down the steak with the four loco
and now you want to punch our car windows. It's
the weird it is the feeling. So I have to
ask everyone, starting with Wash, what is your experience with
these two films.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
I will say I had very much a similar experience
as you, but my timeframe is different. I watched Persepolis
about a month ago when we first got the idea.
I just got gung ho and I'm like, all right,
let's get it out of the way, so it's not
waiting last minute. And so then I literally went the
next day and I started watching kick Ass and it

(04:31):
was weird, and I was like, you know what, I
think I need to wait a minute because the flavor
of kick Ass.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Is not.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Fixing with with what I saw with Persepolists, and so
I waited probably probably I think I watched kick Ass
like maybe eight nine days ago, so it was a
while that I waited, And you know, we'll get into
that in a little bit, but yeah, that's where I'm
coming from. And I've seen kick Ass one time, had
never seen Persepolis. But as a random fun fact, I

(05:06):
half sold the Persepolice on the eBay store. You can
find me over to watch its Kate and Nice. I've
sold it twice and had never watched it. So it
has been in my prose Possession Physical Copy twice, and
I was like, what the hell is this random movie
so fun that we got a chance to review it?

Speaker 1 (05:25):
The movie so nice? He seld it twice. We love it. Yes, dudes,
tell us your expedience.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
So excuse me. I watched both of them yesterday. I
started with Persepoly first, which was like yesterday morning. I
ended up taking a nap, which I which was desperately needed.
Yet smart, smart, Yeah, I took a nice little nap
in between watching them. The afternoon, I cooked dinner. But
I gotta tell you, that movie stuck with me. So

(05:55):
I think taking a huge break between between the two helped,
because it's it. I stopped once the movie was over.
It stuck with me. It stayed with me. I got
more curious about it. I wanted to learn more about
the writer's life, like it was an interesting It was
an interesting, interesting movie to say the least. And then

(06:15):
kick Ass I watched for dinner. I watched around dinner time,
and then I took my time watching that as well.
Actually throughout it's a longer movie than I remember. But yeah,
I just like you. I literally went from from like
sort of like like a panic state to Oh my god,
this is so much fucking fun, you know what I mean,
and given given the different storylines, so yeah, it was both.

(06:38):
Both both movies were watched yesterday, so they're super fresh
on my mind. And no regrets, man, no regrets whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
I love this format so much because I'm already hearing
things that have interplayed in my head and it's just
such a random experience to hop one here and be like, wait,
what this is crazy? So I will I will ask
in full disclosure, you did say you watched five minutes

(07:04):
of this four quick second or five seconds of it.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
And it's which which one for some yes, top, yes, yes,
when you.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Were in chat.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
So then when you sent the group chat a couple
of days later, I was like, are we.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Talking about the same movie?

Speaker 3 (07:17):
But in disclosure, we don't want to talk about it
outside of said formatt, So I didn't.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
Write so yeah, I know we were trying to pod,
but yeah I was. I was immediately sold, like it
didn't take and I don't remember which Oh I do
remember which clip it was, but I think we're going
to get into that later. But yeah, and I was like, yeah,
this is it. I was just like completely so I
love stories like this. I grew up reading stories like this,
especially when they involved the wars overseas, like like this, you.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
The Holocaust is one of my favorite subjects of study.
My favorite book in the world is called Number of
the Stars, and it's about a little Jewish girl who
had a hide, who was like hiding during during the
Holocaust and being stopped by soldiers in the middle of
the war and checking papers and all. And she was
about the age maybe about six seven years old, having
to deal with it throughout her adolescents. So these kinds
of stories absolutely fascinate me. They're the side story to

(08:08):
the main plot of any of a war basically. And
and my goodness, it's yeah, it's right up my alley,
so yay. This was a great choice for.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Sure, absolutely, and just to kind of round things out,
like I had no perception that this movie existed. This
is my first time hearing the word perceptibly. And you
know what I mean. It's one of those things where
you see the black and white, you see the art
style in the periphery of your life, and you just
never connect to it, like I may seen it on

(08:36):
some commercial somewhere, but I've never like thought to sit
down and watch it, and much life did.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
I own the thing and I would never watch.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Ye never thought to watch it. So in my experience
with both movies is I remember kick Ass and we'll
go deeper into kick Ass. But kick Ass was like
a cultural phenomenon when it came out, you know what
I mean. I remember that being a pretty big deal.
From remembering correctly that kick Ass was like, Okay, everyone

(09:05):
saw Kingsman and Kingsman was so insane. How was Matthew
How is Matthew vonn gonna follow this up? And he
followed up with the adaptation of kick Ass, and it
was like, Okay, this movie rules, And like Tuts was saying,
it's such a just the position of emotions from these films,
and it's it's literally like it's like whiplash. It's like

(09:27):
cinema whiplash, these two films. Seeing them so close together.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
Let's explain real quick what is about because there's probably
plenty of people just like us didn't see it, you know.
So I yeah, I think there's a description that that
let's go.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Nice segue toes. So we have directed by Vincent Directed
by Vincent Prona, in Marjane. I'm not going to try
to pronounce her in the last name because I don't
want to be insensitive. Synopsis A precocious and outspoken Iranian

(10:05):
girl grows up during the Islamic Revolution. Fun fact, this
is something I just thought of the last second, did
you know? Because I found this so interesting, the Iran
government sent a letter to the French infancy in t
In Tihan to protest against this movie and pressure the
organizers of the two thousand and seven Bangkok Film Festival

(10:26):
to drop it from its lineup. Yes, it's a metaphor.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
It's considered anarchist propaganda. That's what it was considered.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
It's a metaphor for the movie.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Yeah, it's literally that. It's literally meta. It's literally meta
of the movie. Yeah, that's pretty insane. Movie came out
in twenty ten is when this the film had to
adaptation of the book came out. Marjane wrote both. She
had full hand and writing the film, which is from
what I understand, is almost word for word scene for see,

(10:59):
as is the book, which is was, which is what
was very important to her. Everything in the book is true.
She really is a Bruce Lee fan. She really does
have the little mark on her nose. Everything was pretty
accurate to to the writer herself, which I think is
beautiful because it's a love letter to her home country,
which she apparently could never go back to again. At

(11:19):
the end of the film, it's decided that you have
to leave Iran and you cannot ever come back to Iran.
She left one she tried to come back. Well, she
wasn't banished, Her parents didn't want her there. Her parents
like her, why forbid you to come back? Yeah, well
she wasn't. You make it sound like it was a
government given that it was a war. Yeah, so yeah, yeah,
so so yeah. It's it's interesting because throughout the entire

(11:44):
film she is struggling with with fighting the temptations of
Western I civilization. She's getting black market deals on on
Iron Maiden tapes and and all kinds of punk rock
musical jackets Jaiko Maxen, what does he say? He totally
jack Jackal Maxim. Yeah, so cute. It's such a cute scene.

(12:06):
She's very outspoken, she speaks, she speaks on the dress
code because as most of us know, over over in
the Middle East, over in Iron Iraq, you know, these
women are fully fully fully covered, fully fully closed, with
the idea of even if they don't cover their hair,
their their their prostitutes, or their horrors or their this
and that. So these women are very, very oppressed, and
she has no issue voicing that it's not fair. And

(12:29):
you know, if you guys weren't such perverts, then basically
we wouldn't have to dress this way and this and
that and not in those words, she was not as
as blue as that. But yeah, very outspoken young lady
in this entire movie. She's young. Even at the end
of the film, she's so young. Maybe I would say
in her early thirties at the time. But yeah, it
goes through her life as a kid, her life as

(12:51):
a teenager, her life as a young adult, her first love,
her second love, her heartbreak, death in the family's death
from war. It's such a very well rounded and made
it film. Mind you, it's an animated film, so there
is an element of silliness to a lot of these scenes,
which is just a white no, mostly black and white,
with the exception present.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
The past is black and white, the present is in color.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Okay, all right, all right, thank you.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
There's one scene you mentioned too. It's that talking about
like the dress codes and the contradictions between men and women.
The scene where she's chasing after the bus and because
she's running late and the Occupation is following behind her,
and you think, oh oh, because every time you see
the Occupation it's always some kind of monumental drama. And

(13:38):
they're like, man, please stop running after the bus because
it makes your butt move in a provocative manner. And
she's so match. She turns around and says, well, maybe
stop looking at my ass, and she just keeps running
and they don't do anything. They're just like, oh, they're
just baffled.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
They're just like in shock. I love that scene. I
included in The Real, by the way, because that's one
of my favorite scenes about the entire films.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Happy Instagram, go check off the Real. It's sick. Uh
such a good link. Like it, Like it and subscribe.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
God I will say that, uh watching this, a couple
of things went to mind as as I watched it.
And first, I enjoyed, well, enjoyed the journey that it
took me on because it it's real, So you're like,
oh no, this is real, Like what I'm watching isn't

(14:32):
necessarily enjoyment like this happened to somebody and.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
These are real circumstances, but the.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Just history of it, all of Iran, of the people,
of the culture, and that timeline. It really brought me
back to my childhood and looking at things on television, going, oh,
you know what, these these kind of situations are matching
up right now.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
The second thing I'll say is.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Pardon me.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
And I couldn't help but do it. I so like
attached myself to her parents because for me, they became
like the rebellion. They were running like a little mini
freaking like rebellion out of And you know, there's some
sad there's some sad moments, but the entire time I'm

(15:25):
watching it, I'm literally just waiting on all the cards
to fall down because this is not Star Wars.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
This is real seventies eighties.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
History, and you know, so the film kind of kept
me on an edge, even though it's not that type
of film, but you were just kind of like, oh man,
this is not going in well for anyone involved.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
So it was very exciting in that aspect.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah, I have so much to say about this film.
To kind of went yesterday was like trying to get
a temperature check. I was like, so, what do you
think of the movie? I was like, I can't tell
you right now, No, because I have so much to
say about this movie because it's so and while you
were mentioning how it's hard to say it's entertaining. No,
it's entertaining. You're there through her entire life. You're there

(16:18):
for her victories, you're there for her defeats, you're there
for her tragic moments like two suspensioning her heart breaks her.
You know, I'm in love number one, I'm in love
number two, I'm in love number three, And you're just
with her along this journey that's so personal. But it's

(16:38):
so smartly written because on the periphery of her experience
is the war, is the You know how when she
was a baby she thought the Shah was the best
things that sliced bread. Oh, he's been ordained by God
and her rebellion. Dad had to tell her, no, this
is the actual history, you know what I mean? And
it's so fascinating. I think, because I don't speak Francois,

(17:03):
I'm I'm totally invested because I have to read the
entire thing.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
I actually not mention it.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
I didn't even notice it like it didn't even here,
It didn't even I would not have even considered it
until you mentioned it right now.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
That yeah, the whole thing. You ready.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Some people can handle subtitles, some people can't, you know
what I mean. And I was one of those where
it's like, you're the subtitles is forcing you to engage
and immerse with the story because if you you miss
one thing, you have to go back and read it,
you know what I mean, Like youtob Yeah, And what's
cool about this movie is that it bounces Religi. It

(17:43):
bounces languages. It goes from French to you know, to
what's iron, what's their Naturalish, Swedish to German.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
A lot of German. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Like her her her German housekeeper had the Stupid Dog
reminds me of someone in my life. And I think
Touts knows what I'm talking about so much that I
was so immersed in that little part of her life.
It's like, if you in your stupid dog, you guys

(18:16):
are crazy and.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
You're shitty dog.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah, Okay, She's.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Like, you know what, I'm out, man, I'm out. One
thing I liked about this film was how what was
on TV grounded you at the time, and it's like
these little clips of like Godzilla or a little clips
of the Terminator which tells you what where they are
on the timeline, and it's like mindless, and it's always
like wordless, mindless American shlock, Japanese shlock, and it's like

(18:51):
this is what they're watching during this horrible time of
revolt and in failure, in in defeat because sadly Tihan
never recovered from the war, you know what I mean.
And it's there's and I kind of want to go
into favorite scenes because I have a couple, like, okay,

(19:12):
favorite scenes. Okay, My first favorite scene, which is kind
of more of a subdued one, is where they had
the where she was going to stab this one kid
with wolverine nails because his dad was a military man
of the Shaw and her mom caught her and cuts
it pretty much told her to get your dumb ass
back in the house because they were gonna do harm

(19:33):
to this child. He was on his bike. They were
chasing him with not with with with wolverine nails, and
then mom was like, like, what is your problem? What
are you gonna do? And and then the boy turns
around and says, well, my dad's works for the Shaw
and he does a good job and he hasn't killed anybody.
You know, everybody. It's different from different perspectives, from different perspectives,
it's their truth. And of course, hands down the best

(19:56):
scene of the film is when she's depressed and she's
visited by God and God tells you to get her
to get it together, and then she locks the f
in and starts playing my God. I was so.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
Scene I almost cried.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah, you see her locking him. She's working out with
the Hobies, Dug, they're getting it together. The only time
the movie's ever in English is when she sings the
lyrics the Eye of the Tiger.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
Yeah, and it's her singing it too. It's her singing.
Isn't that great?

Speaker 1 (20:29):
So I was so pumped. But I was like, this
scene alone is going to carry this movie far into
random select I can't think I figure off the top.
That got me more I was not expect to get.
It was like God in, like Einstein told her to
lock in. I don't know who the other guy was.
It was God in Einstein and it's like that God.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
That God had no time for him though. Yeah, God, God,
was like, all right, yeah, whatever whatever. He said, yeah, whatever, fine,
It's fine.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
God, I'm super annoyed that that guy hopped out it too.
It's like, yeah, get them. I was like, man, but yeah,
what are your guys' favorite scenes of this film? Persopoly
and Tuty?

Speaker 3 (21:12):
You can happen because I don't have a bunch of
favorite scenes, but mine really are the rebellious moments, like
when she starts doing like the rock and roll to
like Iron Maiden. It was so unexpected to hear Iron
Maiden at that moment.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
I was like, wait, what am I watching? Like? I
literally said that, and I'm like, what is happening right now?

Speaker 3 (21:34):
So, uh, it was moments like that when you talk
about Godzilla Terminator. So it was just those those moments
that really, you know, americanize this film that you know,
this little Iranian girl is like just sucked up into
the culture and trying to break free in her own

(21:54):
way through you know, the music of rock and roll,
Godzilla and Bruce Lee and you know what, I dig it,
I can get.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Behind that Bruce Lee during the Eye of the Tiger, Doug,
she clicked, she votroned up. Sorry, I'm just a well
rounded kid.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
She was definitely a well rounded kid, and it became
a very well rounded adult really, you know, like culturally speaking,
Not only were her travels amazing, you know, from back
and forth from from Irun to Europe, and then she
traveled within Europe, you know, to different places here and there,
so like not only was she pretty well versed as
far as that side of culture is concerned, she made

(22:35):
it a point to be continued to continued her curiosity
for Western for super westernized culture, because Europe was pretty
westernized that anything, you know what I mean, I mean
iron Maidens from not from America, you know, So okay,
So first, yeah, my my my favorite scenes are the
are the two scenes where she does talk to God,
especially the second one with when it uh alludes into

(22:58):
eye of the Tiger. Another one was when she gets
she falls in love with the second guy and he's
the most handsome, most gorgeous fellow, and then he ends
up like fucking around on her and cheating on her,
and then all she sees is how dummy is and
how super ugly and grotesque is such a it's legit
a girl thing, Like what did I see in him?

(23:19):
It was such a beautiful moment, because that's exactly what
we do, fellas, That's exactly what we do the second
we break up with you. We find every flaw about
you and we want to exploit the hell of it
out of it in our own minds. I suppose it's
a coping mechanism, but yeah, it was hilarious to me.
And my last favorite scene, which is probably probably honestly
my favorite favorite out of all of them, is towards

(23:40):
the end, she goes back in her memory and she
remembers laying on her grandmother on her chest, and she
asks her, why do you always smell so good? And
then the grandma says, well, I always put jasmine flowers
in my bra so that makes to make sure that
I always smell good. And then she asks her why
her breasts are so round, and Grandma's like, well, because
I soaked them in water for ten minutes every day.

(24:00):
First of all, I wonder if that really works. Secondly,
I thought it was a beautiful scene anyway, So this
is this is my five thirty routine.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
This is my five routine, right, Like, let.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
Me just make one of those. Maybe I stuck my
boobs and ice water and ice.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Ice water in and I put flowers in my bra
but all jokes.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
It's such a it's a really beautiful scene, like it's
it's a it's that they're best friends, like Grandma and
Marjane are are best friends throughout the entire movie. You
know what beautiful it's. It's such it's it's it's absolutely amazing.
You know, Grandma can say anything she wants to her,
and Marjorane's not going to get offended. She's gonna get
her feelings her or she's gonna change. She's gonna about

(24:58):
face when Grandma tells you, Marjane, yourselfish son of a
bitch for letting a man go to jail over something
he never did, just because Marjane was playing you know
what is it called damsel in distress? Which is what
she did call it. You know, Grandma had no issue
with telling her how stupid she was for doing that.
And I'm ashamed of you, like I you know, you

(25:18):
should feel ashamed of yourself. And you know, two scenes later,
here comes Marjane to have a wonderful moment with her grandma.
And again these intimate moments, these are probably relieving for her,
Like you know what I mean, it's I think it's
beautiful to have a mom and dad. But mom and
dad are busy. Mom and dad are busy surviving, living, working.
Grandma's there. Grandma hugged me, Grandma loved me right exactly,

(25:41):
you know, can you imagine? And Grandma's not there for
any of that. Grandma's peacemaker. Grandma's gonna tell you how
it is, but you know it, come and love me
at the same time. And I thought, my goodness, that
is that is absolutely beautiful. Like for sure, for sure
her and Grandma would be at Pep's, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
I was going to make a point to before we
moved on, was to talk about Grandma. Thank you for
being in my brain, because I think she's one of
my favorite characters of the film. Grandma, like you said
everything perfectly. Grandma sat her straight. One of my favorite
scenes is she thought she was doing something. Hey, what
happened to that guy?

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (26:13):
They arrested him? Are you stupid? Why would you do that?
Your uncles have been arrested. You know what I'm saying.
Your father was almost arrested. You're gonna put another man
in jail because you think you're being cute. You should
be ashamed of yourself, and Grandma was always there to
ground her even when she was little, you know what
I mean. And one of my favorite lines of the

(26:33):
movie is like, and that was the last time when
Grandma least, when her final send off, She's like, and
that's the last time I saw my grandma. Because freedom
is very seldom free. Freedom has a cost, and the
cost was her grandmother's life for her to be freed
out into the world. That touched me, especially right now.
So this movie just jacked me up so much. But

(26:54):
it was such a breath of fresh air. You know,
freedom is oft is often seldom free. In this woman's
story from beginning from Milan to Minsk. We didn't even
go into the vienna stuff where she was living off
the streets. Okay, there's a weird scene, Okay, I don't
know what the implication is. She's in a corner and

(27:14):
two male shadows show up in front of her and
that's all they ever show.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
What was that, you know, the vulnerabilities of being in
the street.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Okay. I was like, no, no, no, no, no, right, Okay.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
I think it was just showing us that she had
to either decide whether these are men who were gonna
grape her. These are men who were gonna harm her,
rob her, or they were guards.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
And they never specified their way.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
Yeah yeah, but you know what I mean. But because
she was in Vienna, like can you obviously they weren't
going to be guards. But the anxiety, the anxiety of
the of the PTSD from what you've already been through,
like she's she was on higher alert than anybody else.
Was probably on the streets, you know, no matter where
she was.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
And that's what just the dark shadow of anxiety and
of danger and the loan And that's what I took
that of meaning as in all encompassing.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
You know, this is where you're at it. Damn, I
don't know what's coming, so for sure perfect.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Any final thoughts on psroperly before you move on to
our next combatant hell of a movie. Who chose this?
I think that's a good thing to mention.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Chosen by GPT.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
I for one, welcome, it was not you, No, I.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Thought it was right.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
I for one, welcome our robot overlords perfect and not
for something completely different kick Ass director Matthew Vaughan. Synopsis.
Dave Luzinski is an unnoticed high school student and comic

(28:53):
book fan who one day decides to become a superhero,
even though he has no powers, no training, are meaningful
going to do?

Speaker 4 (29:00):
So?

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Did you know that after being rejected by every studio
that he approached, Matthew Vaughn raised the budget at a
dinner party to make the movie independently. Vaughan ultimately sold
the movie to Universal for more than he originally asked
him for and everything went and all you know, faith
was restored?

Speaker 2 (29:22):
What years kick Ass two thousand.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
Ten, twenty ten, Yes, I'm sorry, twenty ten, okay, perscipally
he was twenty oh seven, twenty seven.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Okay, all right, yeah, go nah. I did not know
any of that about Matthew vaugh In. This movie so
interesting either.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Yep, did you know? I love the digit knows. So
this movie, of course based on the I believe image
comics run of kick Ass. I read some of kick
Ass back when it was first in the graphic and
comic book style, but I never finished it because there's
a lot to the story. It goes for a very
long time. But I was mentioning earlier kick Ass was

(30:02):
kind of like a cultural phenomenon when it first came out,
everybody was really hyped on this idea of this unconventional
superhero film. You know what I mean about a kid
who you know, any nerd within a nerd versus ever
dreamed I would what if I tried to be a
superhero an actual real life. Oh and I lost Toots

(30:25):
and I lost I lost Toots and I lost wash here.
So I'm gonna keep going to kind of give my
two cents and they can catch up once they log
back in. Now exactly sure where that disconnect came from.

(30:46):
So I'm gonna go ahead and talk and feel air
while we go ahead and fix this technical difficulty. Hey
we're back, Hey, we're back.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Hey Mike.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
I was able to fill air like a boss. You
guys to be proud of me.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
It was good for you.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
I'm the same animal and the same beast.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
I was able to this onion in under three minutes.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
For five seconds, I was on my own dug in
the cold, I had no coats on, bro and I
was in the winters shout outs the winter, uh winter,
oh winter, yes, so kick ass man, let's talk about this.
I called it a four loco of a movie where

(31:39):
one of my jokes my dad always said is that
there could be no real Batman, And they make the
same joke in this film because the second he goes outside,
he's gonna get his ass beaten die. And that's just
the natural sad because we have gun as a as
a as a society, you know what I mean. So
it's hard to do a kung fu kick against ar

(32:00):
fifteen with a with a switch on it, you know
what I mean. But that didn't stop Dave Lozinski, who
for some reason was obsessed with masturbation in Batman and
comic books and shit. That's all he loved until he
got the bright idea to become kick ass like.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
A sixteen seventeen year old kid, you know what.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
I mean, very normal. Yeah, yeah, for some reason he
was obsessed.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
I don't know who this kid was. I don't know
who this kid was. But this weird though.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
This not.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Oh yes, I'm isolating up healthy, that's super healthy. Oh
this movie, man, I don't even know where to start.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
I'm very curious, Mike, when did you first see this?

Speaker 1 (32:47):
I saw this when it came out. I was swept
up in the higher movie. I saw this in the theaters. Yeah, okay,
you know what I mean because I read the I
was reading the books. I was a big fan of
Hit Girl. I was a big fan of Big Daddy.
I love the source material, and I wondered how they
were going to adapt this to a screen because it
was like, how are you gonna make kick Ass getting

(33:08):
his ass kicked ass?

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Kick?

Speaker 1 (33:12):
The entire film interesting? You know? You know, you see
what I did? I did, you know, And it's like,
who are they gonna cast in this film? And for
the most part, it's a lot of unknowns at the time.
The biggest name here was Nick was Nick Cage, you
know what I mean. She's Big Daddy. But I think
this was Koreey Morrett's first film, if I'm not wrong.

(33:36):
You know the kid who that we'll talk about that during.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
Favorite scenes, Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Because she was a fucking monster, uh in the action
of this film. Of course, it's up to Matthew Vaughan's standard.
If you've seen Kingsman, which is on this list, which
is going to be a random select so we can't
talk about it too much, the first Kingsman is on
this list. Yeah, but kick Ass is just one of

(34:06):
those films where you wish they would have expanded it more.
Even though there was a sequel, I will give it that.
I don't think it was as impressive as its first outing,
But I'm curious to see what you guys were experiences.
Was what this when it came out? Was? Did you
watch this late in its development?

Speaker 2 (34:25):
I would like.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Tuty to go because Tudy did not feel as though
in random select and full just disclosure of all the
behind the scenes we do watch every film upon our
random selects. There's no YouTube shorts that are coming in
going oh yeah, I watched it. So Touty was not
super enthused to go ahead and give this a replay.

(34:49):
I don't know how many times you've seen it, you
And there is a little rule we can put in there.
You know, if you've seen it in the.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Last year, you don't have to rewatch it. No, if
it's been a president or two. Yeah, because we're different people,
session you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
So I'm very interested in what tud has to say
as comparisons to you know, how first Fouting compared to
yesterday's Hoday.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
So I did watch it when it first came out. Actually,
it was actually one of my first date of one
of our first dates, me and my kid's dad. I
was really it was a fun day, actually, and it
was a very fun movie that I do remember that.
Oh my god. I was surprised that I even going
into watch it. Then I was apprehensive, like, no, not really,
I'm not interested. Turns out I loved it. I loved
every every bit of it. It was unique, it was amazing.

(35:37):
It was Nicholas Cage like, how can you not? So yeah,
I loved it then, and I thought maybe I remembered
everything about it, and I do like it was that
that memorable. And then you know, the kids are born,
so you know the boys would watch it, and so
we've I've seen it, but again it has been a
handful of presidents. So when I watched it yesterday, I
did feel the same way. I remember a second on

(36:00):
Amost the second it came out, I was like, oh
my god, this movie's fun. This movie is so much fun.
And that was what I was literally one of my
first thoughts is this movie is so much fun. When
when he uh uh, it's done so well, just there's
there's not so much emotion. Even when he gets stabbed,
You're not like, oh my god, he got stabbed. You're
kind of more like, all right, where's this? Where's this
going exactly?

Speaker 1 (36:20):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (36:21):
Kind of war does intrigue comically not not necessarily like
sad for him or anything. The scene where where he's
pretty bionic and then his friends like are in the
lunch room just fucking with him, just hitting him as
hard as they can with the tray, Like, that's to me,
that is such a seriously like, uh like a real
life scenario. What would happen if your friend was bionic

(36:43):
in some body part where he can't feel anything, Your
friends are gonna mess with you, you know what I mean?
So I thought that was that was pretty pretty hilarious
and again true to form. Just about everything in this movie,
to be honest, is it's pretty true to form if
this was a real scenario. You know, like Nicholas Cage
doesn't have superpowers. He just has super super super skills,
super military skills and weapons and intelligence and Wi fi

(37:06):
you know what I mean. He's not you know, and money.
So he's Batman. He's basically Batman, which is probably why
he presented himself as such, you know what I mean,
Like they didn't call him Batman but that's what he
was going for. And how they got away with that,
I don't know. You maybe might can, maybe you guys
can explain that better as to how they were able
to use a resemblance of Batman the way they did

(37:27):
Hit Girl was amazing. Yeah, right, yeah, Hit Girl was
absolutely amazing, super skilled, like this kid was actually like
doing this probably since birth, you know what I mean.
And they didn't play super hard into the aspect of
this is revenge and I'm gonna fuck your brain up
and this and that, because she was a well adjusted kid.
She was very smart, she was very loved, and she

(37:49):
was very kind, and she was very loving as much
as a badass as she was. So she was raised well,
it's obvious, you know what I mean, between her caregiver
and her father was there was a nice combination of
of love there. But it's evident in the idea that
she was trusting. She trusted her dad every step of
the way, which is why she was able to gain

(38:10):
the skills that she did because she trusted And I
think that's very very sweet. Going back to Dave or
kick ass himself, that's another that's a whole other like
idea of fantasy being this close to reality because if
it were to happen in real life, this is pretty
much precisely as to how it would happen, right, So yeah,
it's so, it's such a good movie. I had such
a good time watching it yesterday. And again, like like

(38:33):
like Wash said, you watch it as a different person.
I watched it as a mom, and then I watched
it as somebody remembering my teen years, and I watched
it as somebody who had my first crush. And I
watched it as somebody who was barely getting into comics
and trying to impress boys because I liked comic books too,
you know what I mean, Like the scenes in the
cafe with the girls and stuff. So like, it was

(38:54):
very nice to slip into all of these different shoes
while watching it as a thousand year old woman.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
So yeah, I'm older than you. Just a fun Yeah,
we all know.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
You know you're there at the Mason Dixon line. We understand.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
I will say, well, you know, I I definitely appreciate
the sentiment you're coming from with kick Ass, because it
was a lot of fun, like and just looking at
the juxposition. As I said, when I watched it, and
then I had to turn it off because I was like, oh, man,
just coming off Persepolis, I can't watch this, and just

(39:38):
the the forwardness of it all, just it being in
my face was off putting, like and we're not in
the verdicts yet, We're not we're not there yet, but
it was off putting to me, and I was like, oh,
you know what, I think, hands down, I know what's
gonna win this without a doubt. And so when I

(40:00):
went back and I had to sit down and I'm
watching it, and I didn't want to start having fun.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
I did not want to have.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
I was reluctant because of the violence, you know, shooting
a kid like it's twenty twenty five, it's a different
time than it wasn't twenty ten. You know, ten year
old or thirteen year old kid. It just swearing all
movie like, it's different to my eyes. So I did

(40:30):
not want to get on board. But throughout the movie
they just kept pulling me and tugging me, and I
found myself just having a good time with it and
finding that the characters are all super fun, not crazy
well written. Mike, I did not know there's a super
long backstory to kick outs I had no exists, so

(40:55):
this may be something I go look into. Because I
was after finishing and I was like, you know what,
I could revisit kick Ass too. I'm kind of curious
what happens with the dude. I don't really remember. I
just remember it not being that good, not as good
as kick Ass one and thus gone. But I did

(41:17):
wind up having quite a bit of good time with it,
and as we get into the verdict, there are some
downsides to it as well that you know, I didn't
have such a good time with, such as as two
D mentioned length. This movie is about forty freaking five
minutes too longer, and they kept this thing tight. I

(41:40):
would have been happy as a clam, but I found
myself just drifted in and out and I'm like, God,
what are we doing for freaking twenty minutes right now?

Speaker 2 (41:51):
And then pull me back in.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
So yeah, man. One thing I would love to call
out is that this movie was This movie came out
right on the cu of the social media takeover, and
it has aspects of that where a kick Ass would
do something there was somebody out with their camera. This
is the first time I think early on we saw
something like that where kick Ass was online and kick

(42:13):
Ass was on YouTube or whatever it was back then,
pre dating TikTok, pre dating Instagram if I'm correct, on MySpace, right,
So we're starting to get that kind of you know,
if it's not on camera, didn't happen social shift, which
made kick Ass kick ass to the kids. It made
them like a household name and stuff like that. There's

(42:35):
one scene I love is where the mobsters think they
got they think they caught kick Ass slipping walking down
the street and he fucking murk him in the middle
of the valley and it's a damn hat birthday performer
and he's tight because he was like he killed this
guy in cold blood. And then the girls all crying.
It's so sad about kick Ass, and then you see

(42:57):
David was like, yeah, man, that's crazy, Like wait what
and then they're all bad. It's it's like, who the
hell wants a kick Ass birthday performers? That's my favorite gags,
you know what I mean. So yeah, it's just to
go institutes his point of like just the adolescence fueled

(43:20):
by this film is what gives it a lot of
its juice. It's him and his Buddy's quicksilver, you know
what I'm saying. And uh, just at the at the
at the lunch table, cracking jokes about Spider Man and
how he has bionic limbs now and he has all
this nerve damage from getting sucked up, you know, so
many times, and he's like, and he kind of gets

(43:42):
superpowers by proxy because now he's kind of impervious to
pain a little bit, you know what I mean. And
there's scenes where like Big Daddy's put on fire and
it's like Nicholas Cage gets to Nicholas Cage and he's like,
I'm knocking at the duh these guys doing because.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
The loss he channeled in the long legs or what
thing called.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Channeled in that's not necessarily long.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
But that's that that comes from the B movie, right,
like the bees, Like when he has the beef.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Things, this is old?

Speaker 4 (44:20):
Does he does he do it in in Wickerman? Yes,
that's what you guys are talking about the B movie.
I'm thinking you sign Field.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Movie, Junior Man.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
I was like, okay, okay, so this is just a
Nicholas Cage thing.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Yeah, he loves to do it if they give him
a chance to do it.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
It's as iconic as cruise running, like when I.

Speaker 4 (44:48):
Know I've seen him do it a lot, but.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
I love it. I love the villains. I love the
nerdy kid from super Bad to Want To He's such
a doork and so like such a try hard. He's
the kid. He's the kid that got all the cool
toys and when invite you to your house, so invite
you to his house so you can see the toys,
but you can't play with them. Remember that kid.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
My favorite scene is sometimes the smoke weed, just to
get the edge off, you know, like, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Dude was like nothing. I thought you were going to
be brock missed the girlfriend. I forgot that my brain.
I thought he alterned on him, but she ended up
not maybe misremembering that.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
I don't know, because there's some stuff about Red Miss
that I was remembering. Just wondering if it's part two.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Yeah, I'm missing one.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
I need to kind of maybe watch part two. But
I didn't want to watch it before the stream because
I didn't want it to influence you know, our picks.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
My pick. Yeah, And I think he made a good
call for Big Daddy being Batman adjacent. And I think
it's this legally distinct Batman, you know what I mean,
like best value Batman, you know, Spider Boy, you know
what I mean. And I think that's how they kind
of got away with that. We lost Toots and Brian again.

(46:08):
That is okay because I'm hope voted down for another

(46:34):
five seconds bravely diligently about this film kick Ass. While
the sequel wasn't really that great in my opinion, but
that's for a whole other episode. I do feel that
this movie is something that I think deserves to be
on this list. And here we're gonna get washedbacks. Shall

(46:56):
want to scream. I don't know why it keeps dropping.
That's okay, We're gonna get Toots back.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
On the stream, wrapping her up.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Watch this like it's time to wrap her up.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
The whole thing. And then it's like we.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Redo, uh no, we're not restarting this, baby. This is
so I don't know, I don't know what, I don't know. Yeah,
because I'm holding it down. Guys, when you go back
and watch this, say Michael was going crazy during that time. Wow,
Michael is truly the best.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
Michael g playing like the flute or something.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
I started playing yas you.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
Got your card. Quick time over there.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
I do have the time chill. This is all an illusion.
Some would say I'm the lord of illusion. So like
Wash would say, let's let's stop grab assing, damn it,
and it's time to make a verdict.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
Have you said that? Have you said that?

Speaker 1 (48:08):
He just said it. He said it during the break
when you when you guys were banked out, when you
guys dropped. He said it, and I heard it through
the ether.

Speaker 4 (48:17):
I was here with him, So no, that didn't.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
No, I know you guys didn't hear it. I heard it.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
You know what I'm saying for sure?

Speaker 1 (48:24):
In like in like the clouds, like lufassa. So somebody
has to win this. In past random selects, it would
be me and Brian arguing for the next hour on
who we're gonna who's gonna recant their decision. But God
has graced us with to d odin, So no matter what,
there's going to be a winner. You mean, which is

(48:45):
beautiful and it's gonna saves lots of time because a
lot of our craziest random selects was me not wanting
to dump back down, watch not wanting to back down,
and it's taking a while now to the third of
most it's not that good great, so so first.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
I'm the deal breaker. I don't go first. It's you guys.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
Okay, I like that, all right, I was thinking about that. Okay,
I'm the first. I don't care. Let's do it. That's
super brilliant, hotcast do it? Do it? So watch that
the great idea before we start to write down our decision,
to make sure if they're from that decision and why
so I have to say, under great deliberation, my decision

(49:33):
has not changed, and I am going to make it.
To make this log and drawing up, I am to
day persopoly. I think this movie resonated with me way
more than I wanted to. Once I watched that, I
had no fire to watch this movie. Never had it
on my periphery. If it wasn't for a random select,
I've never seen it. So I thank goodness for this format.
That being said, what really caused kick As to fall

(49:56):
over is that I'm not a fan of child violence,
and seeing a man beat hit girl for thirty five
to forty five seconds in the face was kind of
something I started to WinCE away at. Maybe I'm getting
too old. I don't know. I wasn't a fan of that,
you know what I mean. I know she's kick ass.
I can't like. As an older person, I don't like
seeing stuff like that, so it kind of bothered me.

(50:17):
The run times were a bit too long. I can
attest to that. In Matthew Vaughan films have a certain
flavor to them. It's almost like a blueprint, like it's
almost Robert rod Reeks films. They don't have to kind
of the same tang to them. So kind of that
being in the underline, he has to take this one.
I can't let this beautiful film going gets farther back

(50:39):
adas me too, so I'm going for Sroperly.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
No, I didn't see it.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
I almost cried to this move. Man.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
It's a brilliant film.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
And I will go on a pick just putting this
out here. I'm going to provide a score just for
my own sake to like, because he was splitting Harizones
some of this stuff, you know what I mean. For me,
just I didn't want to go too high because we've
all got sixty these movies to go, you know, so
unless you're a ten out of the gates, it's hard
for me to give you ten, but my final thoughts

(51:12):
are persopoly perseless. However do you want to pronounce it
of the film? And I had to come down to
how am I going to grade these films?

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Per poptly?

Speaker 3 (51:22):
First and second acts are super strong, The third act
lost me a little bit, and the first two acts
stuck with me for weeks, much like Twody mentioned like
that movie stuck with me. Kick Ass, Mike the violence, man,
I had big issue, and I'm telling you right now,
I had to consider it for a few days what

(51:44):
I was going to do because the violence of kick Ass. Hey,
I'm here on the nerd of verse. I love violence,
I love superheroes. I don't necessarily need to see like
thirteen year old kids get punched in the shot with
guns or I don't know if it's necessary. In twenty
twenty five, that said, dude, when Koet jumps in the

(52:06):
fire that scene and she walks up and she's like,
shows over fuckers and.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Shoots hard seen in the movie.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
Fuckers six point five.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Ever, kick Ass edged it out, so we are split.
This is where the argument would start. We have the
wild card, we have Master of Magic, Sills and delusion
enemies two d.

Speaker 4 (52:38):
Oh there's there's no pressure. I haven't changed my mind.
I the decision was made from the beginning and it's
it's the same one. So I don't know if you
guys could see it, but I went I'm with kick
Ass as kick Ass needs to move forward. And my reason,
my reasoning perseply, it's amazing film and a movie that sticks.
And I encourage anybody who hasn't seen it to if

(53:00):
you don't watch movies and your reader, read the book,
because that's gonna be my next move with with this
movie is I'm gonna I want to read the book
version of this film.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Book.

Speaker 4 (53:10):
Maybe that's your that's that's your your elliot, but maybe.
But it's a very very good it's it's it's a
it's not done yet. Wait, Persepally is a very very
good film. There there's there's nothing from beginning to end,
there's nothing. There's nothing wrong with this movie. The reason
why kick Ass one is because it it's it's also

(53:30):
a very good movie, honestly, and I personally, as mother
didn't have a problem with any of the violence because
I already knew where the violence was.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Going to go.

Speaker 4 (53:38):
There was no way in a film like this that
they were going to let uh in a film like
this again, that they were going to let a child
die and persepally children died. That's real life. That actually
the t in this movie. It was just it was
just made into animation, you know, it was just to
soften the blow, I think it was. It was animated
for maybe for that reason, even to just soften the

(53:59):
blow of her of her own traumas, her own PTSD.
And I wonder how interesting it was for her to
rewatch her life in an animated form and how that
did what that did for her therapeutically. But anyway, back
to kick Ass, the violence didn't bother me at all
for one reason. Honestly, our kids actively go to school

(54:19):
and they have shooting drills. We didn't grow up with
shooting drills. We grew up with fire drills, and we
grew up with earthquake drills. We didn't have active shooter drills.
Our children are traumatized, whether whether we like it or not.
They're born this way, and there's a certain aspect of
survival that needs to happen and a certain aspect of
the value of life. Now, excuse me, I can't say

(54:40):
that superhero movies especially one like this where where it
involves the youth, is an encouragere of the value of life.
The only thing that you can say that is at
the end of the movie she saves so intern kick
I says, well, I owe you, I owe you my
life to save life. That's no, it's twenty twenty five.

(55:01):
Leaves you. Her dad has a way in the fire.
At the end of movie Big that he piss away.
She says goodbye to him, face to face at a
thirteen year old, twelve year old, eleven year old girl,
and how she's to me. She says, up with him,
and she moves forward. She literally moves on with her life.
She's likes, okay, now it's time to make a plan.
Now it's time to avenge his death. Kick Ass is like,
you know what I owe you. I have the choice,
And I think that's a beautiful thing for tune to
learn because these days it would comes to the game

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world and even semcomprol everybody, everybody, everybody is committed to
be fond so there is no value of life being
taken to consideration. And more with the youth, which is
really scary and terrifying. They all feel like they can
all die at any even moment. They all feel like
they have to life at any given Moe. It's this
idea of a survival but in the wrong way. So
if I do not mind kids watching this movie and

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understanding that there's ways to overcome things but also be
kind at the same time, That's what I took out
of it. That's what I took out of it as
a mother who if her sons were to watch this
movie again as teenagers, that they would take this out
of it. They would take the idea of help help
your fellow man. They would take the idea of you
see right happy, you see wrong happening from you take
a stand, you know what I mean? Like, these are

(56:07):
the aspects and the the the values that every human
being should be raised with, you know what I mean?
And and uh, there was loss kick Cassile loses his
mother suddenly in the beginning of the movie barely explained
five second comedic scene a bit even where she's like
blah blah blah, she passes out. She's done, very comedic scene.

(56:29):
They did it well to the point where like, oh no,
it's traumatizing. No, something happened tragically to this child's life.
And he was able to overcome and move forward with
it in a different way. And we do not understand.
And as we've lost parents as adults, there's plenty of
children who lost their parents as children as teens. So

(56:50):
you know, I think this movie has way more value
in it than we're seeing on the surface, and there's
so much fun involved in it it kind of overshadows it.
But if you watch it more than once, and it
is a movie worth watching more than once, these core
values start to pop out at you. The more you
watch it, the older you get, you watch it again.

(57:11):
Maybe these kids have have their own kids, and but whatnot.
There's things that you can take out of this movie
that tell you, you know what, at the end of
the day, everything's gonna be okay, whether I'm a superhero
or not. So to me, this movie is amazing. It's brilliant.
It's brilliant film. I am probably brilliant graphic novel. Oh
thank you Brayon.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
I am shocked, but not surprised, you know what I'm saying.
Like I thought persoperly was gonna run away with this,
but I did. But you guys, I did two two
amazing points. And like Wash said, we're pulling. It's such
there's they're both such good films, but they're so freaking different.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
That I recommend them both.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
I recommend them both. Please watch the movie both. I'm
not even mad, and I love this new format because
it's like, yeah, my movie didn't win, So what they're
both great movies. Watch them, you know what I mean?
And I was wrong in my opinion, was wrong at

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the end of the.

Speaker 5 (58:15):
Day, twists that knife a little bit more, but no.
Kick Ass is one of those films.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
That says it has a lot more under the tin
than action, blood, guts, violence, you know. And Persopoly is
where's it's hard on its sleeve, you know what I mean? Persopoly,

(59:58):
He definitely works his hard on his sleeve. And what
I've liked this to go further, sure, because I think
it's a beautiful story, but to to to this point,
I think there's more said in kick Ass versus. And
that's such a weird thing to say because these two movies.
But what that, I'll say, kick Ass moves forward.

Speaker 4 (01:00:21):
And the shoes of an adolescent teen or a preteen
or a young girl even I'm looking into the eyes
of these kids, which is what this movie This movie
wasn't made for adults. There was hardly any adult adult
situations in this movie outside of the extremely gruesome deaths
of people with the crushing of the car and blah blah,
which I thought was really cool too. Kids are seeing
violence anyway this movie. This movie was perfect in a

(01:00:44):
sense of like you're seeing it anyway. We're gonna throw
the we're gonna throw everything in the kitchen scenk at you,
but we're gonna do it in a respectful way. This
movie respected children. To me, this movie respected teens and adolescents.
That he got the girl at the end of the day,
the nerd got the girl at the end of the day.
That's unheard of, you know what I mean. Like good
for him. But I love a movie that ends with hope,

(01:01:07):
you know, I love that. And again, it wasn't done
in an eighties fantasy way. It was done in a
very modern for twenty ten, a very modern way, and
it was still tasteful. There wasn't school shootings, and there
wasn't all kinds of real life things. These kids can
actually close their eyes and disappear into this fantasy world
and make it their own, and I think that's really beautiful.

(01:01:30):
You can't do that with Spider Man. You can't do
that with Batman, you know what I mean. You can't

(01:01:51):
do that with Spawn. You can't name a movie. You
can't do that with any with the Avengers, you can't
do it with Atman. You can do it with this kid.
It's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
You can kind of do would Spawn?

Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
Can you kind of do it? What's fun?

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Yeah? Different podcast.

Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
With you?

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
I don't know you can kind of.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
Actually I did want to say that for our watchers viewers,
thank you quick subscribe. But kick Ass the winner will
be facing next either Astro Boy two thousand and nine
or Nightmare Alley.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Those are the next contestants on Random Select God damn watch.
This is your watch list, nerd Averse, go watch the
movies before these come out. This is an event, so
every other Wednesday we're putting these out. So follow along.
Watch both films in the chat in the YouTube comments,
which film do you think should have won? Are you

(01:02:58):
with your boy for perseply? Are you with the squad?
And with kick Ass? You tell us who's right who's wrong?

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Get it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
We've been dancing a lot. I love it. I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
So with that is there. Any final thoughts closing out
the book are Perseopoly moving forward, kick ass from either
of you before we close.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
Great discussion, great battle back, and yeah that was a
good That was a good tough round one.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
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