MOTN Random Select: Round 2 Double Feature!

Welcome to MOTN Random Select! The Nerdiverse randomly chooses 8 films that must battle within a pop culture genre and we pick who will win! Round Two: Kickass (2010) Vs. Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World (2010) & Kingsman: The Secret Service (2014) Vs. Astro Boy (2009) Which of these four films will make it to the grand finals?!?!?! Watch and find out!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
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to the masters of the Nerdi Verse. Welcome back nerd

(00:50):
Averse for the second round of Random Select, where we
choose eight films based on particular genre each other to
the mortal death until one is crowned Champion. I'm, of
course Mike g and we are extremely excited to bring
you the second round of this grueling matchup. For those

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who are watching for the first time, let's do introductions
all around. Let's keep a short, short and sweet, this
time introducing to the odin. What's going on to Hi?

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Not much? Not much, hanging in there, hanging in there,
pumped for this round, ready for this double feature. I'm
not sure how that's gonna go. Haven't done this one
with you guys, so looking forward to it.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
This is actually new the feature ideas of a new idea.
So we're gonna go over how that works. And speaking
of which, let's go ahead and introduce the man himself. Wash,
what's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Bro? What up? Man? It is fight night and it
is not a new idea. We did two before, so
I'm just yeah, my memory is drawn, bro, check the
archives those years ago. Anyway, everything is good. It is
fight night. This is a battle. Uh yeah, yeah, yeah.

(02:07):
I mean there's a reason I enjoyed doing this. These
battles are gonna be one.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Of them perfect. So, just to go over the preliminal rules,
there is a double bill. This is a double fight night.
So the contestants this evening are kick As versus Scott
Pilgrim versus the World and also Astro Boy versus Kingsman
the Secret Service. This is how it's gonna go. We're

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gonna go round for round within the rounds bars. So
first we're gonna be going over kick As versus Scott
Pilgrim versus the World. Say that five times fast, and
then we're gonna move on to our closing round for
the night, astral Boy versus Kingsman. By the end of
this episode, we will have our Grand Finals, one versus

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the other, which will be a big old finale for
the For this year's Random Select, it's everyone excited to
get this party started. Yes, I don't know how this
is gonna go. I have no idea before we start.
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let's get ready to copyright. No, he just said no. Perfect.

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So for the first round we have kick Ass versus
Scott Pilgrim Versus the World. And today, if you want
to see more of a deep dive into our thoughts
on these films, please watch Round one, because today's not
going to be that We've already discussed these films at nauseum.
We probably do it again for the Grand Finals, but
today we're just gonna kind of go over and just
give our light thoughts on these films. That's kind of

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like a refresher for.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Everyone and a battle in comparison against the other film
as it is a fight, you know, even though I
know we don't like to compare things here at the
nerd of.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
No we could hear nothing, but we could we could
pay nothing outside. You're never gonna let that go art.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
We're not doing that one again.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
No, I'm not, oh man perfect. So who wants to
talk about kick Ass? First? I know we talked about it,
have you? Have you has has new feelings arose and
since the last time we talked about this.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Well, I will jump in and I will go that
each each of these were difficult. And kick Ass and
Scott Pilgrim I thought was gonna be super easy, and
it was super easy up until I started second guessing
myself about four hours ago, and I'm like, really, is
this what you're with? Brian? I'm like, man, I don't know.

(05:02):
So you know, it's it's been a toss up. These
are very similar movies, and in fact, we don't have
the date up there, but they both came out in
twenty ten. They're both twenty ten, so this conversation very rare.
But this conversation has happened before about which of these
movies were better. And I don't know who really won

(05:25):
that box office nerd fight back in the day because
I wasn't paying that much attention. But when I think
about kick Ass, I think about cool freaking action scenes.
Out of all the movies that we've watched, these were
the most super heroistic action scenes. And hit girl out

(05:48):
there doing her thing, she absolutely for me, saves this
movie upon a when you're thinking about it, what now,
three four weeks later, I don't even know how long
it's since we watched this, but that third act comes
together for me with this film. So that is a

(06:10):
lasting memory for kick Ass.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yes, very good. Yeah, it's those lasting memories, right, it's
the what's stuck with you afterwards.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
That being said, the third act would never have worked
had the first two, especially Act one, been extremely in
your face about how much they want you to love
each and every one of these characters. You pay attention
to every single one of them, including his friends, including
the hot girlfriend. All of it. You you, you, you

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start to find yourself building relationships and finding yourself being
able to relate to them. And by act three, like
Nicholas Cage burning to death, none of that would have worked.
That would have come off so bad had the first
two acts not not been built up the way they were. Yeah,
it almost was borderline cheesy already because of the way
Nick k jackted it out. But no, and it ended

(07:04):
up being super brilliant, like you said it did. It
took go over the whole thing. It wrapped up the
thing with a nice pretty bowl. Yeah, kick Ass is great.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Because for a second, for a second in the second act,
like when the gangsters are burning in the building, like
this thing can go off the rails real quick, like
we are entering like you know, satirical type of comedy
category at this stage like nineteen eighties like television bad.

(07:33):
And it didn't. It was able to save itself. And
that's that. It's a great movie. It really is a
great movie. I'm glad we had a chance to redoor
revisit it because I had forgot about just how kind
of like cool this movie is. Even though I still

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adhere the violence towards children in it, that will be said.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
But yes, you're a weenie. I thought it was great.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
It's okay.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
I would love for my children to be that kick Ass.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
I didn't say I didn't like the violence. I didn't
like this violence. I'm fine with some Star Wars violence.
I literally just listened to some kids dying the other day.
All right, fine, all right.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
With with kid sounds like a plant person. One thing
I about this movie that you guys mentioned is it's
a ramp up of belief from belief to disbelief. Like
the very very first fight of the film, it's so
rugged and real. It's just two people fighting an alley.

(08:47):
There's nothing cool about it. Right, kick Ass gets his
ass kicked ass kick, and he's bleeding, and it's very unceremonious, Like, okay,
this is as grounded as can be. To the absolute
end of the where he's literally in a in a
freaking jet pack with a rocket launcher, flying ten stories
above the ground, you know. And it does a really

(09:09):
good job of getting you there, you know what I mean.
It just keeps getting more fantastical and fantastical, until by
the end it's just a superhero movie, you know what
I mean. But because it had that original grounding, you
make you believe it more, you know what I mean.
It's it's more real, Like just the techniques of of
hit Girl and big Daddy training makes it more believable

(09:31):
that this little girl can come in here and kill
twenty five mobsters and it's just natural, right, you suspend
disbelief because they because they paved the way and you
earned it. And one thing I like about.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
This and because you believe Nick Cage can really mess
up a child given the right circumstances, Like anybody under
Nick Cage like guidance, it's like, oh, we don't know
how they're gonna turn out.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
So yeah, anyway, I mean, I might be talking about
the character and we don't talk about Nick Aage as
a person.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
He just so.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, kick Ass definitely has stuck around with me just
because of that fact. And it's so it's so colorful,
and it's it's this is around the time superhero movies
were so bland and everything had to be gray, and
you had your Justice League Jack Snyder Zack Snyder's and
your Captain America Civil Wars, whereas this stupid gray palette.

(10:28):
The suits were so bright on top of the bloody gore.
It's just I just really liked the aesthetic of this film,
as well as What's Twos mentioned the relationships they're in.
For some reason, in my brain, I thought his girlfriend
turned was was like a spy for the for the Gangsters.
I misremembered that, and I was waiting for that turn
to happened, and it never happened. You know, I must

(10:50):
be mixing movies. But uh, but yeah, no, you're.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Thinking about what's his face being her friend?

Speaker 1 (10:56):
The motherfucker is that his name? Motherfucker?

Speaker 2 (10:59):
No, the black dude. Oh yeah, the black dude's her friend.
Oh and he he Uh that's how. That's the reason
why he goes and visits the apartment and he's like,
leave her alone. She wants you to leave her alone
and all that blah blah blah. Member.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Oh yeah, yeah, okay, bad, yeah, exactly perfect. All right,
Like I said, we're not going to go too deep
into these Let's go on to the next film, shall we. Okay, Okay,
scooon Scott Peel Graham.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
You know, we're only maybe fifteen minutes in.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
So maybe we should slow down.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Oh, that's that's like, we have four films fifteen minutes
like plus the finale.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
We're on time.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
It's moving just as it should. It's a simp final.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Okay, I disagree, but okay, go.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Ahead, all right, let's uh talk about Scott Pilgrim Versus
the World. I have an unnatural soft spot for this
film just because I was so deep into the graphic
novels as a kid. Just lighter points on this one
once again. The action scenes are amazing, that the cast
is phenomenal. Chris Evans just that guy never ceases to

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amaze me and anything. He's in one film that didn't
make this cut, not necessarily, it wasn't in the random select,
but watch snow Piercer with with Chris Evans, amazing graphic
novel film. Almost it was. It was among the running
of random select. What you're shaking your head?

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Wash? Did you not like I fell Aslave twice? Wow?

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Dude, I don't know. Yeah, man, I like that film,
but uh but yeah, amazing cast. I love the dedication
to the source material. I love the casting of Scott
Pilgrim by Mike Sarah, and I love the music. The
music was also amazing, so this one will always stick
with me. I'll always have a soft spot in my heart.

(12:58):
And this is one that if I just want to
groove out and listen to some good tunes, I'll watch
this and just zone out and have a good time.
Those are just my overall thoughts on this one. Who
would like to go next?

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Okay, I'll go, oh, okay, go ahead, Brian, all right?

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Well Scott Pilgrim as compared to kick Ass, And again
I was reflecting on this, and I had I had
such a good time with this movie when I had
no intentions of like having a good time with a
movie from the word go. When the music starts and

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I'm like, man, I can't believe that I'm about to
have to watch this terrible like music movie thing. I
look back when this now, and this wasn't that long ago,
probably three weeks ago, and it was fun like it
was a fun I don't know how long this movie was,
hour and a half. I didn't look it up, hour

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forty minutes, but I thought that what they did, I
would have loved to have seen an extended version with
like a full in depth like The Seven Deadly Boyfriends,
but with the time that they had. I thought that
they were able to bring together something that shouldn't necessarily

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have worked on film. And when I think about the
battle sequences versus kick Ass, I did not enjoy the
fighting in this as much as I did Kick Ass.
But I actually think that I had a better time
with Scott Pilgrim than I did Kick Ass, if that

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makes any sense. So it's a really fun watch. And
these are both two really very similar movies, and I'm
really wondering, like, you know, since they were made at
the same time, give or take, where it's like production
crews and like other people's you know what I'm I mean,
was it like, Hey, why don't you come take a
look at this cut of my film? Go look at

(15:04):
a cut of your film? Because when you put these
these two movies like back to back, I don't want
to say they're carbon copies, but the look, the color,
the cringe, it's all it's all similar. And I go
cringe both ways because when you look at you know,

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kick Asses cringe, you have this crazy, like batanman ish,
cartoonish fight style that comes out of nowhere that doesn't
necessarily fit. No real explanation as to why Michael Sarah
can you know, take an ass whipping and get back up. Apparently,
uh one wasn't needed, you know what I mean, an

(15:46):
explanation wasn't needed on that front. So another good time.
When I look back on it, and another I'm super
surprised I enjoyed it as much as I did.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yeah, what I'll say before I'm passing over to two
is that Edgar Wright and Matthew Vaughn have very similar
director like director sensibilities. I'll say because I think of
movies like Sean of the Dead and my favorite of his,

(16:17):
dang it, Hot Fuzz is my favorite Edgar Wright film
that I just love me some Hot Fuzz And it
has like this stopping go, very kinetic laps a minute
kind of it just keeps you going. And it's you
can say the same thing about Matthew Vaughn movies where
they just have this very high kinetic feel to them.
There's never a dull moment. You're kind of at the

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edge of your seat. So I can see that comparison
and them, like swapping notes. I think they're just of
the same They're cut from the same cloth. What are
your what are your thoughts about Scott.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Pilgrim Oh, I disagree with the wealth of you guys completely.
They're not They're not at all the same movie whatsoever.
I've been toying with this one kind of like all
they kind of a week, to be honest, this one
was that was the harder one of the two to
get through. And this is actually the one I've This
is actually the verses that I've made a decision on

(17:10):
that I'm holding on too. I still haven't made a
decision on the next one we're going to do, which
is which is weird? But okay, here's the thing. Scott
Pilgrim is an IRL anime film. That's what it is.
It's not there's no comic book feel to me involved
at all, with the exception of there's a scoop of

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comic book actors in it. It's an anime film, is
what it is. That's why there is no need for
an explanation as to why Scott Pilgrim is able to
have the powers that he does. We don't need one.
There's no reason to explain why he's in love with
the high in love with the high school girl while
he's twenty two. It's made fun of and it's almost
satirical but again, these are all formulatic things that they have,

(17:55):
and a lot of animes just to set the tone,
just because it's commonplace, and and a lot of these
anime cartoons and and with a lot of these characters,
a lot of these mangas and whatnot. So yeah, I
I they're both fast paced, they're both very fantasy. But
one builds up to explaining the how and the why.
The other one, like you said, it does it does

(18:19):
get away with a lot because it doesn't need to
explain it, and and it it goes beyond the fantasy.
It just goes back to the fact that, let's pretend
this is a real life cartoon. This is why the
set changes happen the way they do every single time.
This is why the pooh and the poo and all
those those cartoonish words pop up, you know what I mean.
I don't think I don't think it's necessarily meant to
set a tone as a comic book film. I think
it's meant to the tone as an anime film. There's

(18:40):
so much Japanese influence and Scott Pilgrim, And while I
was thinking about that, my only my my main gripe
with Scott Pilgrim is not what the movie is, and
and uh and how it was directed, filmed, et cetera, cetera.
All that is excellent. It's what it did afterward. Now,

(19:01):
what this movie did afterward was it portrayed the alt girl,
the gamer girl, the nerd girl as toxic because uh,
let's let's be honest, if you if you just look
at what things are today, if a girl happens to
be relatable to a fella, she's a pickmy. She can't
win anymore. She can't be unique, and she can't self

(19:23):
express and she can't be herself without being being considered
a pickmy or toxic or oh she must have all
a bunch of guys in her DM. I see it
all the time in comments I see all the time,
and the social media atmosphere. It's interesting that And not
not to say that this movie was the the was
the crux and all of it, but it helped. It

(19:44):
helped in delivering the idea that you can't always trust
the old girl, you can't trust the funny, unique one
all the time because you may have to fight her
seven ex boyfriends type type shit. And that's that seems
to be I think what young maybe even older lonely
fellas will take out of it. Not necessarily, I can

(20:06):
fight for the one I love. No, the exact opposite.
It's I'm not gonna waste my time.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Yeah, I didn't get any of that from the film.
So both the anime and the Japanese influence, like, you know,
I don't. I'm definitely not in the circles that Michael
is in when it comes to anime. Lady Odin, I
don't know your history, but I did not get any
anime at all. Like I did get cartooned, but that's

(20:35):
mostly because I was playing with the video game, and
the video game comes off very much with that type
of art style. But for me, as far as the
relationship goes like as far yeah, I didn't, I didn't
catch any of that. I just looked at it as
like a fun like, uh, you know, doesn't.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Guarantee if you watched it out of the eyes of
anybody between the ages of fifteen and thirty, she's a
pick me, he's a simp. Yeah, because that's how it ends,
and that's that's it's it's it's societal is what it is.
So I'm I'm now viewing the movie in the eyes
of somebody who would view the movie today, because we've

(21:16):
already done the part where we viewed it in our
own eyes, right, We've already we've already done that review.
So now I'm review I'm reviewing it in a sense
to where who am I going to tell, Hey, watch
this movie because it's really good. That's what That's what
we're doing here, right, So that's where I'm coming. That's
where I'm coming with this with this about it, because
if I want somebody to watch a movie and be like, hey,
you're gonna come out this feeling good, it's just not

(21:37):
gonna happen today. Not what's Scott Pilgrim interesting.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Definitely have some influences, Definitely there is anime influence the fight.
The fights alone a very dragon Ball The fights alone
are very na Ruteau with the giant kick, with the
speed lines and all that good stuff.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
Giant Yeah, I guess, I guess I don't necessarily look
at that and just like scream anime every time I
see it. I just scream that that is it's it's
that's what's done. It doesn't scream anime to me, I suppose.
But when you mentioned it, it's like, yeah, okay, all right,
I understand that.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Just well, Nice literally screams a Japanese word. I don't
know what she says, maybe attack, but she literally screams
a Japanese word before she with.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Like size in her hands. It's but it's equal parts
anime video game because as much as there is anime influence,
there's a video game. When you kill people, coins pop out,
you know what I'm saying. The last scene of the
film says game over, you know what I mean, very
eighties inspired eight sixteen bit influence on top of the

(22:48):
Toronto music scene. So it's kind of like we want
to tell a love story, but we're gonna bury it
in these three tropes. And that's kind of like and
you have a baby and it's Scott Pilgrim Dutes. I
did have a question in regards to, like your views
on kind of the societal impact that a film like
this has where you know what I mean, where it's like,

(23:12):
you know, Vermona Flowers in today's sensibilities is to pick
me girl, right, and she is the you know, she's
to try hard almost you know, to be with the
hang out with the cool gamer boys, you know, and
to infiltrate that kind of Oh they're not cool. I mean,

(23:32):
let's say excel cool and put gamer boys. Okay, how
about that? And I think it's like with anything, right,
it started out cool until it wasn't right, until it
got mutated and changed and at this and like you said,
watching it at this time, it's the coolest thing in
the world. But watching it in a lens of today,
and it's say, if you're fifteen sixteen, they're like, that

(23:54):
would be cringe to the kids of today, you know
what I say. So, and it's like, who is this
mark it to? It's marketed to teenagers and big fat
nerds like me who love this stuff from back in
the day. So you know, if you were to suggest
this to anyone, you kind of kind of pick and
choose your battles, right, Okay, I would suggest this to
my buddy at forty, but I wouldn't suggest this to

(24:15):
my cousin at fourteen, because they may not dig it.
I mean, they just may not even understand half the
references to you know, to lock in with it, but
maybe the core idea of love and the awkwardness of
learning what love is and how to be in relationships
will resonate beyond generation, you know, but that's to each person.

(24:38):
So very interesting talking plots across the board. Do you watch?
What do you think of.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Molt and love line?

Speaker 1 (24:45):
I have no idea, dudees put the Buddy the Buddy
in my brain and it's just hopping around. I love it.
I think it's interesting to see it from that perspective
and what it means today versus what it meant then.
But then that's but then it's slip. It's like showing
a fifteen year old a new hope, you know what
I mean? Like, are they going to be as wow
as we were? Probably not.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
I can tell you this. There's a lot of fourty
year old fellows our age who are absolutely single because
they can't trust women. So when do you think that started?
You can't if you can't even trust the one you like,
how can you trust the one you don't like?

Speaker 1 (25:19):
It starts with That's when guys create it. And uh
if Ramona was a big noe, she made them work.
She just didn't say yes, fight my eight evil exes.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
I mean exactly. She she came with baggage at twenty two.
I remember, this is the point I brought up at
the last one, why did she have eight boyfriends at
twenty two years old? That's unheard of. That's that's ridiculous
to me. So like it's I had two and a
half boyfriends at twenty two two and a half. I
don't even know about the other one, Like I don't.

(25:49):
I was a question till this day. It was a mystery.
So it's like to even have have that much baggage,
that's the thing to me. Again, it's part of a
new society that was setting the tone. You set a
foundation for people to become insults, for people to not
be able to relate to somebody of the opposite sex
because they like this. Oh you like this, Well, I

(26:10):
guess I can't trust you because now you're trying too
hard to be cool. And that's that's just what I
got out of it.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
And to close and that sensibility has adjusted your sentiment
towards this film. You know, are you asking me, I'm asking.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah, yeah, of course. Again, the whole purpose is will
you recommend this film to somebody in the near future?

Speaker 3 (26:33):
Right? No, no, And you did mention that, and and
you know the point of random select is putting two
films together, as films are subjective, and then three people
choose the winner over the course of two films. So
whatever your reasons are, One of my reasons for an
earlier film was like a nightmare, Elly, I couldn't recommend

(26:53):
it to anyone, no one. That became my guiding light
for that movie is who can I tell any But
you know, if you can recommend, that's not you know
why you should pick the movie. Like, this isn't a
recommendation podcast. This is a battle like what movie do
you like best? And that is the point of subjection.

(27:13):
So yes, if I'm using that word correctly in that sentence,
which is questionable subjection.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Well, we've all been going by we've all been going
by that question right at the end of the day
when we can't make a decision, our decision always as well,
will we recommend it to somebody else?

Speaker 3 (27:30):
You see, I don't think my last one was, but
I see your point. Yeah, it is one of It
is one of the qualifiers in there that you know,
as you're like xing out, you're like, dude, do I
recommend this to someone I don't know? Like, yeah, okay,
that because we're cutting hairs.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah, no, no, no, I agree, I agree. I agree
that it is cutting hair, splitting hairs.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah, And with me, it's like this was my hardest
partment the last battle. Is this a good film? Is
it well made? Is the plot strong? Is the acting great?
Versus did I just have a good time that I
have fun with this movie? And it's always that kind
of tug of war on if it's a good movie

(28:15):
or if it's an enjoyable movie, And that's kind of
my north star on how I pick a film which
one gets to the middle of the best.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Because do you try to pick teenage mutant Ninja Turtles
that's not I can't.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
I'm still with you film just like that instance. In
that instance if and I don't want to rehash, but
it's like it didn't win because you know, I've had
seen it thirty times, Like there wasn't much guiding light.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Is sometimes there's no guiding light. It's just it's just nostalgia.
And the nostalgia for me for that film it's way
too strong for me to be objective. I'm big enough
to say that because all my break could go is
to you R T E. Power And that's all I heard,
you know, I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
So No, that's fair. That's fair. I don't think it's
fair to the audience, but it's fair for us.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
No and I. And it's like, it's not fair to
the audience because it's not a real subjective white room decision.
But some films, some films supersede that. It's not.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Like the audience listen to what we're saying, you know, Yeah,
I like what Mike said about this movie. I'm gonna
watch it. I like what Lady Odin said about this movie.
I'm gonna watch it.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
That's it, you know, Like like, I'm sorry, but I
can't be subjective about hell Raiser. It's going to win
in my brain.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
That's not what we're here to.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
I know, I'm just being I got you. But speaking
of real we have to pick a winner here already.
I'm not gonna cheat. I didn't change my mind. I
already I had who I wanted to win in my
brain since before this started. But watch, would you like
me to go first? Or would you like to go first?
Watch I'll go.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
So this was the one that I thought I knew,
and then at about four hours that was like, man,
maybe I should pick this other movie. I don't know,
and I had to like go back and watch some scenes.
I like did some stuff, and I was like, you
know what, I feel confident that one movie is awesome,

(30:35):
but I genuinely had the better time Scott Pilgrim. Scott
Pilgrim wins for me.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
It perfect perfect, Yes, as twod is the wild card tiebreaker,
I will go next. She screams wild Card and jumps
off the back of the truck like I'm always sunny
and cuts the brake lights. This is well, you can
float out the window.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
Monday morning. She's like, world Card.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Quit that, dude. I'm just gonna call it the movie.
I chose between these two, and it was a really
hard choice to make because I never saw these films
as similar. But I did. But but they are genre.
They're big genre films. One's an anime film, to Your
to Your Note to it to one's a superhero film.

(31:34):
But they're they're so what's they're so broken down they're
not though, Scott Pilgrim isn't just speed Racer. If you
ever seen the adaptation of speed Racer, that's the most
anime live action film ever made. We got to talk
about that at some point godlike right, So it's the
most beyond belief movie you will ever watch in your life.

(31:58):
You'll have an aneurysm just from the colors. Whereas, yeah,
it's so fucking good, but uh, but Scott Pilgrim is
that it's it's there's no explanation, there's no need for explanation.
You live in this universe with Scott and this is
what's going on, Whereas kick Ass tries to ground it
in real life as much as possible, but also still
manages to make it fantastical. And this is a hard decision,

(32:19):
but I have to go with kick Ass on this one.
I have to go a kick Ass only because I
love Scott Pilgrim, but I enjoy kick Ass more as
a full package. I like the walk, I like the
I like the growth of the kick Ass I like
I like the characters that were developed Hit Girls. I

(32:40):
didn't know Hit Girls gonna be one of my become
one of my favorite superheroes ever, but she did. You
know what I mean? I love and I love the
act the actor who plays her like that in Scott Pilgrim.
Because there's so much content for Scott Pilgrim, I feel
like I can get my Scott Pilgrim in other places,
video games, the animes, whereas kick Ass is so isolated,
you know, watching this movie in itself, it's just super good.

(33:03):
It's a nice type movie. So my choice is kick Ass.
So we have a tie breaker. Wow, Cardo, card that's good.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Okay, all right? So, uh, like I said, both movies
are are amazing. I think we did mention even previously
that they did come out the same year, around the
same time, because of how back to back and how
similar they actually were. I'm not disagreeing that they're not similar.
They are similar, similar to me, though very very very different.

(33:39):
I'm gonna go I'm gonna just come out with it,
and I'm gonna explain why.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Yes, because I was curious which ones had the kids
you didn't like, because I know there was one set
of kids.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
That Pilgrim Okay, but here's the thing. They annoyed me
and I didn't know why. Then, if we go back
and watch the episode, I didn't, I couldn't really pinpoint
as to why it bothered me. And then I just
I realized why, because well, really, because they don't exist anymore.
The Alt Girl doesn't exist anymore, the Goth girl can't
exist anymore. The grunge girl can't exist anymore, The nerd

(34:13):
girl can't exist anymore. We can't. It's just impossible without
being cringe or without being epimy, or without being try hard.
Like it kind of sucks, Like I don't have to
worry about it so much. I'm forty. I don't give
a shit anymore, you know what I mean? You like me,
you like me, you don't, you don't. Thank God I'm
an old lady that I don't have to worry about it.
But I feel bad for the young girls who just

(34:33):
want to be unique and want to be themselves and
want to be able to express themselves and love the
things that they do and have the hobbies that they
have without somebody looking at them, like I can't be
attracted to you because I can't trust you, because you're
trying too hard. So let me get my heart broken
by some broad who wouldn't want nothing to do with me.
And I think that's the formula that's been set in society,

(34:54):
and I'm going I'm going a little bit too deep,
a little bit too hard on that aspect of it.
But it made me realize why I didn't like the
Scott pill Kids, because they don't exist anymore. They're not real.
They're all clicks and selfies and views. And that's why
we're doing this now. That's it. It's it. It's very
rare to find a true gem on the Internet that
isn't an industry plant, that is raw talent, that is

(35:16):
making a way for themselves, buy themselves without buying viewers,
without buying sponsors, without blah blah blah blah, you know
what I mean. So it's it's a different world now.
And I think the world of Scott Pilgrim did exist
at one time, which would have made it an explosive,
true to form film, and unfortunately that time does not
exist anymore. So my choice was, for sure, kick Ass.

(35:38):
It's right there. I chose kick Ass, and I will
explain why very briefly. Kick Ass was absolutely ahead of
its time. It was the beginning of clicks reviews, which
to me is a con because it's it goes back
to what I was saying about the Scott Pilgrim Kids
is that you know, everything's clout clop clop, clout, clout clout.

(35:59):
We don't have real, authentic people that are on the Internet.
We can that we can trust, and therefore in our
personal lives we feel like we can't trust anybody around us.
It's true to comic book movies absolutely, one thousand percent.
Matthew Vonn does an insane job at color. Uh. He
does an insane job at at moving the movie along.
The character arcs are beautiful and honestly, to me, it's

(36:21):
it's it's true to form in them Amotian vision.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
The Amotan like mission that we have is self expression,
being able to be yourself and and letting that work
out for you. You know what I mean, Like we're
so unsure of ourselves, be it adults, kids, youth, whatever.
The self expression is beautiful. The heroism, the fantasy and
and the entire thing and turning the fantasy fantasy into reality.

(36:49):
This is all masses of the Nerdi verse stuff. To me,
I didn't know it back then, a few weeks ago rather,
but it turns out Nicholas Cage was when he was
burning alive spoilers spoilers. When he was burning alive, he
was shouting out comic book titles, like actual issues of

(37:10):
comic books, as as moves to hit girl. So he
was saying Robin's revenge as he was screaming and she
would do a move. I didn't know that until now,
So like, dude, like that just made ah, what like
how much of a boner more can you have for
comics if you're I don't know, I just all in all,

(37:32):
this is definitely a Masters the Nuiverus film. And this
would be one that I would highly recommend to our
audience absolutely for that. And two it was for me,
it was it was a better film because it's timeless.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Timeless, timeless. It's funny that you mentioned something I never
really thought of as things being MLT and coded, you
know what I mean, like MT and well.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
I'm a big fan. I'm a big fan of Massive Nervous.
I'm a fan first Hard.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Lee, Yes, yes, indeed. And this movie is about being
a big nerd and trying something new right and trying
to be different and trying to you know, find your
find your your village, you know what I mean. And
kick Ass is a perfect example of that. Interesting. So

(38:22):
for this round, it came down to a split. And
please understand, both of these movies are really good. We're
spending the hairs here because this is once you start
getting into these lads. Someone's got to win, someone's got
there are no ties. There are no ties, Thank you
so much to me, because there were ties into one

(38:42):
of us had to egress. You know, that's no.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
That would have been a long one.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
It would have been like a three hour episode. That
would but kick ass, kick ass wins that round. Someone
please notate And if you haven't seen either of these movies,
why are you listening? Go watch them? Please? You know
we're spoiling the ship out of all this.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
You turn into an Auntie right there.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
And just you guys know I did actually while we're talking,
made my second decision there, so it's already written down.
Just you guys know, Okay, no cheating, I'm good.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
I think, I think. I who remembers that song flesh
flesh full fantasy, No, no, nothing, somebody knows that a
nerderverse holler at me.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
I know, I know, flash flush, Yeah, I know that one.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
It's a miracle. Speaking of movies that are miracles, we're
gonna talk about Kingdasman The Secret Service. This is funny
because I watched this again Apropos of Nothing, which is
oh Secret Service is all I'm gonna watch it. I
didn't realize I was gonna do that. I did not
do it in preparation for this episode. It is just
on and it's just that kind of movie you just

(39:54):
turn on your back end. It's one of those movies
which is rare. You can come on at any point
of the movie and don't feel left out, you know
what I mean, Like, oh, man, I missed the beginning,
I gotta rewind it. No, just jump in where you're at.
You're good. Even it's the end of the movie, You're good.
Just watch it to the end, you know what I mean.
I'll go first on this one, just just general thoughts.

(40:16):
This much like kick Ass, this movie really turns its
genre on its head. The spy film espionage, the you know,
to Russia with Love, Goldfinger esque, you know, James Bond stuff,
and it really just makes it its own once again,

(40:36):
another Matthew Bond Vaughn film. I love directors who you
can feel their personality in their films because it's very
similar in some ways, it's extremely grounded. In other ways,
it's so fantastical it doesn't make sense, you know what
I mean, and you just kind of wrote with it.
I love the cast. We talked about it before, Michael Kaine,

(40:58):
Samuel Jackson, and of course Colin Firth who plays Galahad
if I'm correct. This is when I just watch all
the time. Apparently it just comes on and I watch it.
So really excited to get into a bit of a
discussion about this film. Wosh, how about you give us
your thoughts on Kingsman the Secret Service in retrospect.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
This this has been rough and like like Lady Jotin,
like I picked, I picked, and I don't even know
if I picked the right one. That's how that's that
is where I met with this because for me, and
you know, we'll get an astro Boy when we get there.
The problems with this film are what stick with me

(41:46):
two weeks later, Like Samuel Jackson, I'm still not a
fan and he's still like the entire character still bothers me,
Like the the glossing over of eggs. Y's like in
hire like character, and like story development as a character,
which as I said, could happen in two or three.

(42:07):
I was gonna go watch Astro Boy and Part two,
but I didn't want to be influenced by the sequels
or anything else. So it's like we'll just hold off.
So for me, the problems are still there. A few
weeks later that said, I will say that it was
a entertaining, popcorny type of movie. And I'm just coming

(42:34):
off of a watch of a movie which we'll talk
about Friday. Shout Out Go, Come watch hang Out Friday
Live MLTN. We talked aboutch of cool stuff, but I'll
talk about it Friday. And it's like, you know, there
are it's very hard to get a good popcorn movie
where you can just go to a movie, walk into
a movie theater, sit down with a bucket of popcorn,

(42:56):
have a good time, walk out, and feel satisfied that, hey,
you know what, that was pretty good. I'm satisfied. Let's
move on. And as I think about King's Men, the
movie did leave me satisfied. The action did leave me satisfied,
the style did leave me satisfied. The story did was

(43:21):
lacking a bit. But you know, not everything's a ten,
you know what I mean? Not everything's like like Return
of the freaking Jedi. So that's that's my thought. Yeah,
what a ten either, you know what? So so that
that's what sticks with me. A couple of weeks later.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
All right, just just real quick, you guys. I was
talking me and my daughter bought I bought her a
tiny little starter collector series of Star Wars toys, and
she said she watched Force Awakens with my brother in
law and my sister, and she was like, at the
end of our our just says I was describing the
characters that she got because it was a grab bag
just surprise animals, and and she was just asking me

(44:06):
about each character. She asked me about Ray, she asked
me about color Ran, she asked about their leniency. And
then I'm like, she's like, so basically these movies are
just about family drama. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, you've
got it. She's nine, so basically their family drama.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
Yeah, yep, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
I'm sorry. I don't mean to change the subject, but yeah,
you brought it. You brought it up. I've been dying
to share that with you guys.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
Actually, that's fun I like it.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
It's true, that's funny. All right. So Kingsman, Matthew Vaughn's insane.
He's just amazing. I mean, not nothing to take away
from any of the other directors, from any of the other
movies that we uh that we reviewed. But Matthew Vaughn
is a there when it comes to uh the action

(45:02):
and uh and the sequence of action. The cast singe
is insane in this movie. Loved all of it. I
don't want to go back and reiterate what I've said
in the previous one. We'll just watch it. But again,
it's it's it's a call to action. It's it's true
comic book form still to me in this one, even
though it's not, it's not a comic book movie, but
it's still kind of it's still got its vibe, you know,

(45:23):
Sam Jackson, especially with the with the with the cringe
character does does come come with that? He comes with
a comic book sword in hand with it with his character.
I agree. I didn't watch it again, but I did
watch snippets and I did try to grab some some
two minute reviews as a whole. And you're right, there's

(45:45):
a giant hole in this damn story and also very
weak plot like who cares? Okay, so his dad dies
and he picks up this bread with this kid. I'm
all right, so yeah, I agree, I agree, I agree,
I agree on that end. But the action does make
up for it. The act sense kind of make up
for it, all of them. The lisp, the blade, the
blade feet lady, I mean it all, it all kind

(46:06):
of works out to me.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
And you said it, Mike. Uh. Colin Firth. Colin Firth
like does a fantastic job reducing like these people as
like a group and a crew and what they're capable of.
Had he phoned it in on this performance, I don't
think we'd be having this conversation, right.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
So, you know, Colin Firth was so good. I'm mad
he doesn't do more action ship like Liam Newson. Like,
Colin Firth was so good. I was doing my own
fan casting of who he could be in the DC
universe and who he could be in the Marvel universe.
And I have some characters who I think he would
be sick as beast. I think, you know, like.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
Kelsey Gramer Man.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
Kelsey Grammer's a thousand years old man.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
We're not having this conversation, Papa.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Go Mimi, but but.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Sorry, I'm with Brian on that one.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
You know what this is live Fridays, that is a
supreme life place.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
We'll be fighting.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
We don't.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
We love each other, but we we don't agree on anything.
And it makes for good podcasting because I was fighting,
I was, I got off by side. You know. Yeah,
AnyWho stay on target, stay on target. This movie it's
just special. I don't know what it is about it.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
I think, Matthew Vaughn, why did you start watching it again?
If you don't mind me asking it was on, you
could have changed the channel, like why did you decide
to watch it? Because you just watched it.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Literally, I wasn't searching for it, so I was on
Amazon Prime. This is not a plug. If you want
to plug us Amazon, the toots will do the job
at adding you will be your sponsor. But they I've
been kind of playing around with them.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
That's a guy's name, Mark Bezos.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
I don't know Bezos, Jeff Bezeos, Mark Bezos, Mark bejis
Jef Zuckerberg.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
I was just kind of They have these live channels
where it's like watch Ninja Turtles literally all day. There's
just a Ninja Turtles channel, you know what I mean,
and things like that. So I was kind of just
surfing just seeing what live stuff was, and it was
like on Showtime that just comes with the thing. I
was like, oh, kingsman, I just watched this where are
they at? Ooh, they're they're just about to get to
the turd scene. I could go for that right now,

(48:33):
and I just kind of left it on, started drawing,
started like working on the channel, and it was just on.
I didn't search for it. I necessarily didn't wasn't really
engaged in it, but it was on. It was something like, Okay,
I don't have the channel surf anymore.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
I like it, but it hit the magic Oh, I
can watch this button what you know we're all searching for,
so you know, that's that's a good enough reason for me.
That was curious though, you know why why.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
You know, totally serendipitous. I didn't type it, I didn't
look for it. It just was on.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
And I think I've watched Star Wars on TNT because
of commercials. But moving on.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Yeah, it's like you don't have that anymore. Like in
this streaming era, it's always.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
On TNT too, isn't it. Yeah, it's always on no, no, no, no,
Star Wars, Star Wars, the old ones, especially in Saturday
mornings like eight ams shack, they're always Star Wars is
always on TNT.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
Yeah, let me some TNT Monday and Monday Nitro, Monday
Night Nitro w CW. What y'all know about that? Uh yeah, wrestling.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
It's still on acting. Acting, It's still on WCW.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Ntro W is dead. Sadly, the gaping mall of Vince
McMahon eight w CW back like in the late nineties. Sadly,
speaking of gaping malls, you want to talk about the
villain of Astro boy here and just the overall I'm
so disconnected from this review that I don't honestly remember

(50:01):
a lot of it. I remember certain beats. I remember
the flat, the final fight, I remember the weird pet
cemetery ish vibes the movie, the mature vibes this movie
game gave off And it's the weirdest thing I just remember.
I've had a good time. Is that weird? Like, I
don't remember a lot of it. I just remember the

(50:21):
feeling of like, oh, that wasn't neat, you know what
I mean. I enjoyed myself. I don't know if that's
good or bad. Like I would love to get you
guys idea on can a movie be be great on
vibes and nothing else? Because that's kind of how I
feel about this looking at this poster, you know what
I mean. So I'd love to hear you guys' thoughts
on astropath.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
Excuse me, sorry.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Lady Judin, take it away, all right.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
So this movie actually, uh, this is this is the
probably the one I didn't want to do. I didn't
want to watch it. I don't care about I don't
care about cartoons like this. Like I thought it was
a very generic, very generic version of what I was
going to say. It turns out it wasn't that at all.
I actually very much enjoyed Astro Boy a lot. It

(51:09):
was a lot deeper than I thought it was going
to be in its own right, especially as a parent
like like, and it just caused a question if if
you had lost a child, how would you react. Would
your reaction be to take the opportunity to bring them
back if you had the opportunity to do so? That

(51:31):
was that was a big one. And and honestly, like
I think, I think even more so now than even
just when it came out in twenty twenty nine, twenty fourteen,
whenever it was that it came out, even more so
now parents are are randomly losing their children, you know,

(51:54):
parent children are randomly losing their parents, a lot of
diseases of cancers, et cetera, et cetera. And you know,
we've all already experienced something like that. And honestly, I
know a big chunk of millennials that lost their kids
in their twenties. I was one of them who lost
a parent as a young in my twenties, So we

(52:17):
all have experience laws and to experience a movie like
this that actually deals with it in your face the
way it does in a very loving way, very cartoonish way.
Of course. Of course, there's the anime aspect of it,
for sure, I think is lovely. I think it's something
that is even necessary. And in times like today, we've

(52:38):
always had it. We've had it with Land Before Time.
Land Before Time still makes me cry all this day,
oh my gosh, so like it's not like it's never
been there where we we. It's now. These movies are
made for us to understand loss, you know what I mean.
As weird as it is, that's why they do it
as gently as they do, because they know children are watching,
and they know children are unform which is gonna have

(53:00):
to experience it. Not everybody, but some. And there's gonna
be ways to cope through that. And in the eighties
and early nineties it was escaping to a fantasy world,
and my own personal experiences, I learned that that we
don't change, that's the go to to escape into a
fantasy world. And in this case, it's the parent who

(53:22):
escapes into a fantasy world and turns into reality. And
it just brings up this whole canopy of we're all
one and the same, and again not for hyperbole purposes,
but we're all one and the same. None of us
are alone, and there's just this umbrella of grief that
that goes beyond competitiveness. It's just this is how we're

(53:44):
going to react, and this is how we're going to
solve this issue, going in a great adventure like Land
Before Time or build a second person like astro Boy.
So I for me, Astro Boy is a ball's deeper
movie than it ever should have been, if I'm being honest.
So yeah, like it's it's it's it's it's a good movie.

(54:05):
It's a good movie. And again, I'm coming from the
shoes of a mother, but I think if I were
coming from the shoes of a child, I'd still kind
of feel the same way again. It's funny. It has
the good guy who turns the bad guy and he's
just the chunky, jolly fella who's you know what I
mean and no harm, no fel type thing. The big
giant robot doesn't end up hurting him until he you
know what I mean. Like, it's just there's fun. There's

(54:26):
fun in the movie. But man, is it dark and
somewhat realistic.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
If I was a child to day, I'd be bio
hacking myself after watching this. I literally would be on
GPT like and I give myself like a razor arm
man that choots beabs. Oh okay, mom, I'm sorry, I
cut my arm off.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Three duine rip weaponry.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
Absolutely so uh Tody, Here is what I'm going to say,
And I don't want to give anything away quite but
I agree with you one hundred. When I look back
on Astro Boy, out of all the movies we've watched
for this random select, astro Boy somewhat is the most surprising,

(55:13):
just because of how deep and how many layers it touches.
And it's a damn good time. Like you're watching it
and you just kind of like get ripped away in it.
And everybody like like, I can't, uh uh, what's his name?
Tylo t Loo? I can't remember his name? Anyway, He's

(55:35):
he's really likable, and the situation is really, especially today,
is very much relatable when you're looking around at you know,
I'm not gonna go into a whole thing, but you know,
waste in all categories, okay, And it's like, what is

(55:56):
an animated film? And honestly, this is what this question
came down to for me when I'm looking at these
two movies.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
Is is it.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
Astro's Boy's fault that it's made for children? I don't know,
And we're gonna find out here in a couple of
minutes if it is Astro Boy's fault that it's made
for children. But I honestly had a hard time answering
this question. And I know, Mike, you're gonna go here,
but I cannot. No matter how it goes, I cannot

(56:29):
recommend Astro Boy enough. I personally will be diving deep
into just the lore of Astro Boy. I don't see
Astro Boy being repped enough. I'm gonna become that dude
that's like, oh, you're an Astroboy dude, and it's like, Yeah,
this dude is awesome. So that's that's my two cents
on it.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
I have so much to say about this, and now
I had no feelings, now have all the feelings. You
guys just freaking killed it with you with your thoughts
and your feelings about what this is saying. So first
things first, astral Boy is the og right, He's the
very first older than Godzilla levels of representation, right, And

(57:10):
it just goes back to Japanese sensibilities that the brighter
the picture, the darker to the negative is with a
lot of anime, right, A lot of anime has that
distraction of comeha mayhaw wave, but there is an undercurrent
of dark morality and I think Japanese culture, Japanese anime

(57:32):
always is such a good job too for those who
are looking to look deeper can find that morality and
can find that message on top of the you know,
I must succeed. I think that's from the Simpsons, I
Must succeed. And with astral Boy, it's like it's this colorful,

(57:52):
beautiful film. Once again, this is the second Nicholas Cage
film that's made it into the you know Grand Finals.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
Oh shit, right, I didn't even know. I forgot about
that the finals. Damn.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Oh wow's age. And it's just it's like you can
as a kid, you can enjoy, but as an adult
you're like, crap. If this was my kid, I probably
would have did the same thing, you know, And it
has it's I can't stop thinking about cemetery. Don't go
down that road. You'll make yourself a robot, you know
what I mean. I've corralled for your missus, and it's like,

(58:28):
this is my son, but it's not my son. And
it's such a creepy idea that I'm in so much grief.
I'm going to create what I'm what I'm longing for.
But it's sad because no matter what I do, I
can't get that back, you know what I mean. And
even this perfect fact similarly of the thing I've lost
is not it because it doesn't have the spirit of
what I'm missing. And that's a tough pill to swallow

(58:51):
when you're going through grief, is that no matter what
you do, you're not going to get back what you lost.
And I think the father has this perfect kind of
trail of grief that he makes mistakes and sometimes in
grief you make mistakes you don't you're doing things you're
not supposed to do because you're just trying to find
any way to fill that void. And astral Boy tells

(59:11):
like to say, it educates you on how to deal
with that, you know, how to deal with loss, how
to deal with you know, growth, and not to mention
all of astral Boy's fun little uh just sidekicks. What's
the name of that super squad that always messes up
to you know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
It's like RC thirteen or something. It was like letters.
I forgot what it was, but yeah, something like that. Yeah,
they wanted to they wanted to take down the government.
They're like anarchists, anarchists robots.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
They fail, but they are are our F squad.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Yeah, are our F squad?

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Yeah, that's squad, you know what I mean. So astra
Boy like to like uh wash said, this is probably
the sleeper kind of underdog rudy film of the entire
random select you know what I mean to me, because
I had no expectations this and next.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
Week I'll have a little fun rapid fire thing for
us either on the live or whatnot, just you know,
as an incommentsing. But you know when we said astro Boy,
I'm like, I don't want to watch astro Boy. I'm like,
when I want to spend an hour and a half
doing this. And I look back with like my last
three months of like television, and I'm like, uh, astro

(01:00:30):
boys right up there with anything I've seen. So moving on, Yes,
moving on.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Look at that we're about to hit our mark. We
were about to hit him out without when out breaking
a sweat.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
Lady, I mean, give us a carrot and we can
talk for an hour and that's not a problem.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
You give us three minutes, we'll give you the world.
Remember that. Yeah? AnyWho, somebody's gotta win, somebody's got to lose.
You went first last time? Watch I guess did I
go first last time? Or you didn't? You went first?

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
I went first?

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
Sorry, I have an old man pee brain, I can't.
I have the memory of a goldfish, So so I
guess I'll go first. This one was harder than I
thought it was gonna be because much like Toots like,
I didn't have a winner until like literally right now?
Is that bad? Like? I like, I didn't like, but
the other one I knew it was gonna be kick ass.

(01:01:28):
But you know it's hard, man. It's like, because they're.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Both good for I have something written down for integrity purposes.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
I'm I'm I'm a sith. That's my that's my that's
my goal. I'm a sith And and sometimes I don't
have integrity unfortunately, death darth Nerdiest is what I'm gonna
call myself. But I do have a winner. And and
it was kind of what I was leaning towards, just
to be full transparency kind of what I was leaning

(01:01:59):
for toward. But with all that said, at the end
of all things, I it's got to be Kingsman for me.
It's got to be Kingsman. Even though I didn't want
it to be a Matthew vaughan off in this thing,
you know what I mean, it's what it's kind of
turned into. It's become a Matthew vaughn Off for me.

(01:02:22):
I didn't I didn't expect that to be the end
result when at the beginning of all this, but I
just like King, I just found myself going back to
Kingsman so much, you know, and just enjoying it at
any part of it and being memorable in just the
scenes in the music dudes mentioned this has a killer soundtrack.

(01:02:44):
Age Manners Maketh Man Colin first. Like I told you,
he's actually started to be I'm waiting for him to
lean into it. He hasn't done it yet, you know,
Mark Strong, You know, like Gazelle is so sick. I'm
sad that she had to go. But Gazelle is one
of my favorite like Bond Henchmen. She's a Bond girl
and a henchman at the same time. That's Kent kind

(01:03:06):
of smart, you know what I mean. I just like
how much fun it has though. Even though Ashule Boy
is an amazing message and it's a lot of fun
and I wouldcommend it to anyone of all ages, I
just have more fun with Kingsman. And I want to
see it win. I hate to say it, but I
want to see it win. But I don't know. This
is my vote, so I'm gonna go with Kingsman the

(01:03:26):
Secret Service as my winner, all.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
Right, I will say as I'm about to say my pick,
I still don't necessarily feel good about it, but for
me and all three of us, apparently it took all
three of us coming down to the final seconds here
not the final second but mine's been written down, so
you know, over here wild Card, I will say that,

(01:04:16):
damn it, I wanted astro Boy to win.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
I did.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
I really really really really really really did up until
twenty five minutes ago. As I said, can this movie
lose simply because it's geared towards children? And unfortunately for me,
even though I will say I think astro Boy, I

(01:04:43):
had the much better time with astro Boy. Astro Boy
is the more complete project to me. Astro Boy makes
sense to me. But when I put it up against
Kingsman's style, and I'm just gonna leave it at style

(01:05:06):
because of what they're going for. If if astro Boy
was geared towards like sixteen year olds and not like
twelve year olds, I'd probably pick astro Boy. But in
this instance, I'm taking Kingsman, and I kind of hate
myself for doing it. I'm not joking. I make this

(01:05:28):
pick and I say it, and I'm gonna get off
this podcast and I'm gonna like, I can't believe I
picked Kingsman, Like that's no intensity. So, because like we
were talking about, it doesn't come down to this necessarily
being a recommendation. I would recommend both of them. I
enjoyed both of them. In fact, the movie I'm not

(01:05:50):
picking I actually liked as a better movie. But if
you had to tell me, like, hey man, Desert Island,
you get two of these movies, what do you pick it?
I think I'm gonna take the styleize like Kingsman like,
even though Sam Jackson like the character just irritates me,
like I did, just remove him from that movie, and

(01:06:13):
I'm fine.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
So Kisman, oh man, I'm surprised. I thought asty very nice.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
Surprised me too a little bit. Actually, yeah, me too
a little bit. But hey, it is what it is.
It is lovely.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Expound tell us.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
All right, all right, I got it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
I got it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
Okay, So I uh, I'm not even gonna I'm not
doing this. Astro Boy. That's what I chose. I chose
astro Boy. I couldn't picked so much, so I wrote
it down. I was so sure Astro Boy was gonna win.
I'm being honest, Astro Boy is absolutely the better movie.

(01:06:56):
And to and to answer answer Brian's question, is it
is it appropriate for children or whatever he asks, or.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
Enough to lose because it's made for children?

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
No, because children need this movie and honestly, so do
a lot of adults. So no, absolutely not. Astro Boy
is hands down the better movie, so therapeutic. Kingsman's an
absolute joy, don't get me wrong, a joy. But there's many, many, many, many,
many movies like Kingsmen. Many there's not many movies like

(01:07:31):
astro Boy, and there's many stories like Astro Boy.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
AM going to hate myself with this podcast. I'm literally
just going to hate myself.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
If it makes you feel better. I lost, I.

Speaker 4 (01:07:50):
Lost, didn't lose. You think the better film, but you
know it's just a rough one.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Man. Yeah, I'm speechless because speechless. Every film I've had
in this random select I've had a rough going. Most
have lost, right, And it's hard because it's like I
feel like I'm picking the superior film for my own
mechanations and my own reasons. But but it's three people.

(01:08:24):
These are three different perspectives in three different you know,
ideas of what makes a better movie, right, And it's
like doing this as a group is so much more
therapeutic because asked, astra Boy loses on a whim, it
could have won, you know what I mean? If if
watch is just decided, you know ef it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:46):
If I had it stuck to my integrity, had had
some guts, just just picked the kids film. Yeah, you're right,
but I did, damn it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Hey, watch have you ever heard the Tale of Darth Plaguis?
Are you willing to come up to the dark side
and just throw your integrity away? You wanted to come
over to the dark side? We have punching bae. I'm
completely for This is why we do random select because
even our winners are random. We don't know, you know
what I'm saying. Even the winners are random. So there

(01:09:16):
you have it, ladies and gentlemen, we have our Grand Finals.
And like I said, it's a von Off. We're gonna
call this, dudes, please coin hashtag von off for the insta.
This is av off.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
It is a off. Hey, I'm okay with that. Actually,
I'm not mad at it. I'm not mad at it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
That's great kick Ass versus Off a von Off, kick
Ass versus Kingsmen KK, and it's crazy. You know I'm
so bad anyway, I'm gonna leave jokes to load. I'm
gonna leave jokes a load. Kingsman kick Ass is crazy.

(01:09:56):
Kingsman kick Ass is crazy. Let it go.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
I would have gone Jew versus Jew on that one
because the same guy and he's Jewish.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
Wow, the highest That's all I'm going to say.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
Is you can't say that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
You can't say that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
I can't say that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
There's no reason to say that right now.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
I just want to say it is. It's fun. Yikes,
it's fun to say, like saying no trus. I love
saying my favorite Spanish wor.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
That's weird because you can say that, right Yeah, Mexicans,
we chill Jews, we're not.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
Can I say no trus Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
Yeah, that's a good word.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
I say vosotros.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
That's Spain. That's that's that's from Spain. Now, and we
don't know where we're not. We don't do the Europeans
right now. They're not in right now.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
They're so not hot right now, they're so not hot.
Right all right, let's close this bad way out.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
Yeah, Brian's being weird, rides.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
Like cringing into his chair as we as we collectively
needs our minds, cancel the channel. What's coming up next?
We have our Grand Finals in two weeks time. That's
gonna be a big event. We're gonna do extremely deep
dives into this new film into both of these films.
Watch is gonna have some games set up, which you mentioned,
some fun little things that we're gonna have set up

(01:11:14):
for the Grand Finals, and we're gonna award our twenty
twenty five Random Select champion. That's super exciting because this
is once in a year event and this is one
of our best ones so far because there's actual visit,
there's visuals this time, dancing day. Any final thoughts on
this whole tournament before we move on to our grand finals.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
I am so disappointed in myself and I'm going to
carry that with me for days, for days. You have
no idea, You have no idea how much I wanted
to pick astro Boy all week. Guys.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
Just these are the ways of the Jedi. You're fine, Yeah,
I mean I.

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
Get it, you know, I won't. I can't help but wonder,
like when your sports team loses, just astro Boy could
have win because astro Boy is the goat, you know
what I mean, and in some ways, had it one
taken the title and like Ben Goat, it's like that's

(01:12:18):
saying a lot for astro Boy and it's really good.
And to your point to the I when we were
discussing it, you think about, like, try and name some
movies that deal with this, like difficult topics, just difficult
topics in general in such a easy, translatable, watchable way.

(01:12:43):
And there's not a lot of them. No, not a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
Even for adults, there isn't a lot not that are
worth watching. They become uninteresting and they become this dramatic,
romantic story or something that nobody wants to watch.

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
Or it's right there in front of your face and
there like beating you over the head with a message,
and it's like not subtle or astro Boy. It doesn't
start out subtle. You're like, oh shit, Ben, but like
yeah it's subtle, so damn it, astro Boy. I'm sorry.
I'm gonna buy a T shirt.

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
You'll get my money. You will get my buddy. He's
gonna one six scale astro Boy in the back soon
soon enough. Maybe maybe I know what I know what
somebody's getting for Christmas. You know, gotta love Random Select
once again. Please check us out on all of our

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(01:13:57):
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