MOTN Reviews: Boondock Saints (1999)

For shepards we shall be!

Tootie Odin, Wash, and Mike G delve into the world of the turn of the millenium classic!

The Boondock Saints!

Does this movie hold up or is it not that saintly!

Watch and find out!

Episode Transcript

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(00:50):
nerd Averse for another episode of multina Reviews, where we
take a film plucked from the Nerdi Verse at any
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complete breakdown of this film and where it ranks amongst
the Nediverts itself. I'm, of course your host, Mike g
back with me is my a stute panel of boont

(01:13):
saints themselves let's just do a quick introductions all around,
starting top of the page, the lucky Irishman himself, Wash,
what's going on? So?

Speaker 3 (01:25):
You know there is no whiskey in here, and I
will probably never be considered for sainthood, but I am
happy to be here on this podcast today. So thanks
for having me, and I'm ready to talk justice.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
You and me both brothers sainthood. Nah, maybe the other way.
And with us today is our Lady of Saints herself,
Santa Tuts. What's going on?

Speaker 4 (01:52):
Santa to Yes, a little bit racist, but I'll take it.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Hi the wilstas instead is I was trying to be
coachingly appropriate.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
I like it. Yeah, you're good.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Oh man, could I be son to Mike or Mike?

Speaker 5 (02:18):
Well, there is already a saint Michael, so you know
you're already you're in nice.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Let's talk about these saints, these men of mystery here
in this movie, which I would truly think it's one
of the very first cult classics of the early ninety
the late nineties, early two thousands, and that's nineteen ninety
nine's own but not Saints. I didn't realize this came
out the same year as the Matrix Show. That's kind

(02:45):
of crazy to year to be floating around. I thought
it was earlier than ninety nine. Me too, I thought
it was like ninety five, ninety Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
I was. It was a bit surprised when I saw
that ninety nine pop up, But then I was like, yeah,
all right, I guess that makes some sense, because you know,
they weren't making this back in ninety four necessarily, not this,
not this type of movie.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
No, and just I guess we can just go right
into it and go into our just our initial thoughts.
Where were you in nineteen ninety nine when this came out?
Did you cat this later in life? I'm just curious.
You know, where were you that was?

Speaker 3 (03:23):
That was dancing the Princess nineteen ninety nine? What's that
jam d to the party?

Speaker 4 (03:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah, yeah, oh that was right, damn, But that's what
I was doing. Yeah. No, I just remember this being
one of those movies. I know, it was in the
middle of my heyday of you know, watching weird movies,
having cocktails with friends and things of that nature. It's
just one of those ones that you put on and

(03:51):
it's like, oh, what are we watching? Oh, this is
kind of cool. Second viewing. Actually it's probably third viewing
now because I haven't seen it in it got ten
fifteen years, so it's been a minute. And you know
this this viewing, I'm a tad older, so opinions they
are tad different, but still good movie care cool.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Very good, very good. What about you, Toots? Where were
you when you first saw The Saints of Boondock?

Speaker 4 (04:20):
Where were you?

Speaker 5 (04:22):
So this movie came out in ninety nine, as you said,
and I kind of saw it almost immediately when it
came out because I thought it the concept was amazing
to me.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
So yeah, I thought it was a really good movie.
I was really happy.

Speaker 5 (04:35):
I'm always really happy to see movies that look potentially
amazing with no name actors. And at the time, all
of these actors were no name actors to me, with
the exception of the director, Troy Duffy. So yeah, yeah,
I remember seeing this fairly early on, never understanding that
it was a cult classic. I in my opinion, I
thought it did very well in the theaters because everybody

(04:57):
that I saw the movie with enjoyed the movie. Yeah
this time round and again, like Brian, I saw it
fairly recently and again it used to be one of
those movies that I would watch a lot. I mean, Mikey,
we've we've probably watched it a hand full of time
just because we were bored, you know.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
What I mean.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
So like, yeah, it's a movie that was on repeat
constantly because it's such a good movie.

Speaker 5 (05:18):
Anyway, I watched it today just well, you know, for
the theme of the holiday, given that it's you know,
around Saint Patti's Day, blah blah blah.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
And of course we're doing this review.

Speaker 5 (05:27):
So this movie, believe it or not, here may be
a hot take, but I think this movie would still
hold up today in a lot of ways. I know,
we'll get there, minus a few cringey scenes, like very
small snippets and clips of scenes. Mine is just a
little bit of the nineties cringe, But man, this movie
would hold up in a lot of ways.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
Structurally it's very sound. So yeah, those are my initial thoughts.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Absolutely, I definitely agree with both of you. Like, definitely
a time and a place in a movie that I
feel could stand the test of time even today, just
giving its social and its kind of proclivities. I would
say that we'll talk about later, but yeah, for me,
I saw this way later in life. I saw this

(06:10):
with think you introduced me to this one, Toots. It's
just one of those movies that was in your rotation.
It just happened to be on in the background, and
I paid attention a little too hard. One time. I
was like, this is pretty freaking dope. It's almost in
a weird way, like a comic book movie in a
weird way, because you just kind of and we'll go
into that, but yeah, I was this was one of

(06:32):
those movies that was just on in the background all
the time, like this and The Big Lebowski and just
like in your late early to mid twenties, you know
what I mean, all angsty and I want I want
to be a saint, you know.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
What I mean. I gotta tell you I haven't had
a cigarette and friggin I don't know fifteen to two decades,
but man, I was about fifteen minutes into this movie
and I was like, is there a freaking cigarette?

Speaker 1 (07:01):
I want to talk about that? So yeah, anyway, yeah, man,
this movie it and I just want to talk about
like this next slide. I caught the Little Movie that
Could because this was one of those movies that really
felt like it was just had just the Underdog the
entire time it was. I remember hearing it had a lofty,

(07:22):
a lofty like production schedule. As Toos alluded to, there
are no known actors in this film outside of Willem Dafoe.
And this was Norman Readis's first film. I believe he was.
He was like found by Duffy and by just the Cruise.

(07:43):
So I would like to get you guys' idea of
like just the origins of this movie, kind of how
it all came together, and even touching a bit on
just the atmosphere. One thing I love about this movie
is do you really feel like you're there? You know
what I mean? So it's just I just love the
exact kind of like atmosphere builds, and I love the
story behind His movie is a very kind of like

(08:06):
broody almost like story to me.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
Trutor, go ahead, Okay, Well, I kind of want to
talk about the director himself. Uh, if you if you
really think about it, Troy Duffy had you can kind
of almost tell where his inspirations were coming from, where
he was kind of soaking up all these different ideas.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
There's some Scorsesey in his movies.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
Tons of Tarantino in his movies just uh, the the
only thing I would say that that I think is
a little bit weak, but that he was not very
confident in as far as making the movie is a dialogue.
The dialogue, I think it was trying a little bit
too hard to be a little bit too casual. While
it worked in most cases, especially with the character Rocco,

(08:50):
who is a fascinating character to me, I think, uh,
there's pockets of it that were just uh, a little
bit a little bit overexposed, like a little bit too
on the nose, like like almost like it's a stage play,
almost like he was writing dialogue for a stage play.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
No, don't do that, that's not how you do that anyway.

Speaker 5 (09:09):
Just just very like like focused on exactly what's going
on in the scene as opposed to just a casual
conversation that's happening. I think that's where all the cringe
comes in, like the like, oh, there's crime everywhere and
nobody's taking care of her or whatever they were saying.
It's like like Michael saying, is a little comic bookie
a little bit there's a little bit of camp involved
in such a serious such a very realistic movie otherwise,

(09:33):
But yeah, uh, it made me really understand and realize
that Troy Duffy is actually a pretty damn good director.
I always thought that he was in the movie, but
it turns out there is a gentleman that plays him
in the movie.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
There's a detective named Detective.

Speaker 5 (09:47):
Duffy, and I always just assumed it was Troy Duffy himself,
but it's not, turns out. But yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like,
I really think this movie would hold up today in
a lot of ways because there's still surprise elements to it.
There's still there's height elements, and then the fact that
that Willem Dafoe was the most perfect casting and that
he captivated almost every scene that he was in, and

(10:08):
he was still very ambiguous, you know, in a lot
of ways, there was very There's a lot of questions
around the moment the four, which I know we're probably
gonna get to. But yeah, yeah, this movie is definitely
the little movie that could, and it probably should have.
I think you just mentioned that this movie came out
about the same time as Matrix. Probably would have done
a little bit better had Matrix not come out the
same year.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Exactly yes, And there's a tad bit of background that
I was doing a little bit of research. Apparently Columbine
was this year too, and so they pulled back on
the release of it, and thus it was only played
in a limited amount of theaters because of the nature
and the violence of the time and Columbine, I'm sure

(10:49):
we all remember, and thus it only made thirty thousand dollars.
It's opening like box office weekend. As far as like
the Little Movie that Could, what I can say is
I do distinctly remember watching the trailer and seeing the
trailer since then multiple times, you know what I mean,
just in pop culture, and you it's distinctly not the

(11:12):
movie you think it is, because you think it's some
type of mob movie, right. You see the jackets, you
see the smoking, and like, even as you're watching the movie,
the movie ends up being something very different than what
it is portrayed, especially for that time period of ninety
nine when we're definitely coming off of you know, popular

(11:34):
things like Goodfellas freaking uh see see you'll see whatever
that movie was. I know somewhere here it knows that
tail bronxtail, things of that nature. Yeah, shut out bronxtail
and things of that nature. So it for it to
not only turn out the BV movie it is, but

(11:58):
to carry the less takes to become that cult classic.
That's pretty impressive on the cover of what is a
weird a weird movie for the premise of it all,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
So, yeah, this movie, uh, just to go back to
my original point of it feeling comic bookie. It even
has stills where when a character is introduced, it freeze
frames and gives you a comic book panel of who
that person is, their allegiances, and their like occupation. This
is Rocco, he works for this family.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
He's a nickname. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Yeah, it's super comic bookie, right, And it gives me
like vibes of It reminds me of like great directors
first films. It reminds me of reservoir Dogs. It reminds
me of like Raging Bull, where it's is so raw
that they're that you can see the unfiltered id of
this director. And like Dude said, it does come off

(12:57):
cringey in some parts where a certain actors are cartoonishly
comic bookie, like the main the quote unquote main villain
of the film. It's cartoonishly Italian and you know what
I mean, just cool, you know, fu significant, god little
fun significant. He's so over the top, you know, and he.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Got business done, which appreciated. I was like, you know,
as like a as a my boss, like you could
put him in roofs.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Oh we lost, we lost for a second. He will
be back.

Speaker 5 (13:34):
He was making such a good point he's making He'll
be back here.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Okay, hold on, let me get it back, let me
get it back. Okay, let me get Washington back, show stream. Perfect,
you're back up, sir, you've returned, carry on, carry on.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
So, yes, yeah, I thought the My Boss was was
was pretty he was you know, he was a my boss.
He did his jack, which you don't really expect to
see him get his hands there, dude.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yeah, man, it's even Yes, there's only one thing to do,
you know. Characters. It's like, so Donchalan about it, right,
and his characters like Rocko Whodut's mentioned. It's just so
over the top, you know. So it's very reminds me
of almost like Dick Tracy, what's like an inspiration for
this movie.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
But I think it's ironic that you said that is.
When I was watching it this time, I was like, man,
I wonder if they're I hadn't. I didn't think it
felt like a comic book movie, but I was thinking
in the back of my head as I am extended
universe as we all know, and I'm like, I wonder
if someone's ever made like a comic off of this,

(14:44):
so like a graphic novel based off the Saints.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
I hope I would imagine that.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Out I die In full disclosure, I did not get
a chance to, but yes, I thought, yeah, it lends itself.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Well, yeah, just to kind of put a sticker on
this particular slide, Yeah, this little movie that could You
mentioned that it came out in a tumultuous time where
the Columbine shootings happened, and what were they influenced by
trench coated black, black wearing avengers. You know, maybe the
Matrix or even this movie may have had a small

(15:21):
part in that. And you know, just that inspiration because
it was the coolest thing ever. It was transcendent, like
this time of the this this time of you know,
on the cusp of the millennium, you know what I mean,
It's a lot going on.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
There was a lot k Like, you know, there's just
a lot.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Change this name. Remember when the Cheloupah came out. I mean,
change has everything to do. That's kidding, But yeah, I
think this movie has a lot of it's very raw.
I think that's where my most thing, that the Little
Movie that Could and you could see his genius and

(16:02):
some would say this is his first and best movie,
Troy Duffy, you know what I mean, just because it's
so him and he just puts a lot of himself
into it. But I would like to talk about the
calm before the storm about this and the story could
be figuratively meaning in a storm that transformed them into
the Saints, and just the calm before the storm meaning

(16:22):
and going into the plot whereas we get our intro
to these characters, and it's so comic book where it's like,
these are normal guys who are who are just in
a pub in Boston who find themselves in an abnormal situation.
And I just love this setup and scene where it's
the alley scene where Detective Duffy's talking out of its

(16:46):
side of its neck and this is the perfect introduction
to William Dafoe's character, and I just want to get
you guys's feelings on the start of this movie and
finding out they know seventeen different languages and these guys
are just kind of low key superhuman and then even
amplified to that after the events of their night in jail.
So just want to get you guys's thoughts on the

(17:07):
beginning of this film.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Well, I like how you call it an ordinary or
what you said something else though I got scrambled, but
you called it kind of like, yeah, a couple of
guys hanging out. Hey, man, it's an Irish bar. They
close all the doors, put the closed side on, and
there's seventeen Irish dudes sitting at a bar. I don't
consider that to be an ordinary situation. And in fact,

(17:32):
if I found myself in that situation, I'd probably be like, man,
should I be leaving right now? So you know, I
don't know how innocent these group of dudes just hanging
out having a couple of beers are to begin with.
But to your point to calm before the storm, I'm
sure you know out having a good time.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Well, things they get cracking until those stupid until the
stupid Russians came in and starts waving their dicks around
and that's what way, clink clink, you're about to start
partying that before that, you have to.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Why they're coming in to close the bar, like you know,
they don't back down at all. They're it's not like
they're they're, oh god, sir, please know we we really
don't want any trouble here today. It's like not blink off,
you know, shot, So.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
I get you. It's just it's just the introduction. That's
very interesting movie.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
I thought it was going to be as you watch it,
because as you watch it, it's it's a mob movie,
you know what I mean, it's a crew and it's
not that at all.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
What are your thoughts to I found the beginning.

Speaker 5 (18:46):
I found the beginning of the movie to be extremely endearing.
It gives you a huge glimpse into characters that you're
gonna get to know and that you're not gonna want
to lose. At the end of the movie, he pulls
that off fairly quickly with with our three our three
main characters being Rocco and the mc mc whatever brothers
mc doyle.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
They're not mcdoyle.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
That's rules by the way.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
Do.

Speaker 5 (19:13):
Anyway, But yes, I I think that was a good
move to to make us fall in love with these people,
because eventually we have to we have to understand and
decide that hey, you know what, they keep doing it though,
so then it puts us into a position of are
are we as are we still innocent if we're condoning

(19:35):
their killing. I think the same works for you know,
shows like Dexter, and it works obviously for uh, the
superhero formula. When it comes to comic books, they're constantly
most of them are having to kill somebody in order
to save somebody else, and it really drives a stick
into our own morality through it, and you know, and
it doesn't have to be that deep all the time.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
But honestly, I think that was probably.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
One of the purposes of of of this movie and
one of the drives, which is why the Calm before
the Storm was so endearing. They were they were very charming,
very enjoyable, very low key and relaxed. Like you said,
they didn't they didn't start a muck until the Russians
came in.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
And even when the Russians came came in, they were.

Speaker 5 (20:17):
They were just bro just chill. It's it's Saint Patti's Day,
like come on, we're hanging out. You know, they were
given chances, and I'm to believe that they were given
chances because the brothers already knew the power of their
own strength easily.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Very good call out. Yeah, And it's just it's so
you just don't know. They blend the line so well
of the natural and the supernatural in this movie. That's
one big stickler I want to talk about is how
much of this movie is actually supernatural because they because
until the baptism scene where they're in the in in
in the uh the jail cells, what they're doing is

(20:53):
very kind of plausible but not at the same time,
but they were still busted. Like when the older brother
lifted the toilet out of its stock with its arms,
dragged it to the top of the roof and dropped
it after being beat up or whatever, It's like, that's
not human. That's some Winter Soldier shit. Is what's going
on with these guys?

Speaker 3 (21:13):
So did they have is determined?

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Extremely determined. That's some determination, bro. It's like, what are
these guys? Right? It just makes you question it the
entire time and the beginning of this film, like like
was saying, it makes you, it makes you love them.
They're so funny and charming. And the meat packing scene
rule of thumb, you know what I mean, it makes

(21:37):
your root for these guys, and it also gives you
steaks really early, like I don't want nothing could happen
to these boys. Will I will riot if anything happens
to these guys, And it makes you feel that immediately.
So when you when you see the aftermath of what
really happened in that alley, you start questioning, like they're
way too chill with those giant, threatening gangsters in the

(22:01):
beginning of the film, like Wash was saying, there's something
not right about the squad, you know what I mean.
There they didn't They weren't like please sir, we don't
want any trouble. They were like shots locked the door,
clink clink, all right, it's party time. And they made
short work of those guys in seconds, you know what
I mean. That Burt Wode guy's ass on the table
part still kept partying, you know what I mean, Like

(22:24):
there's something with these with these saints.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Man, I'm trying to remember when things got really really
like messed up in my head, and it's like when
they went into the church and like everybody's watching them.
People knew church and like you know, they they go
and then they walk out. Was that near the beginning
of the film. That was at the Yeah, because that's

(22:48):
when back to t Yeah, that's two. That's the intro.
So yes, when you talk about the calm before the storm,
it's like, who imagine you're sitting in church, mother in
your business. It's Sunday, it's Friday, whenever you go to
church Wednesday night, I don't know, right, but two dudes
in suit in black leather like come walking in behind

(23:11):
the priests like it's some holy water themselves, walk on
out and it's like, who does that?

Speaker 1 (23:17):
You know what these guys are. They're the punisher, right,
you air dropped the punisher in the real world, and
this is this movie. Like you said, same scenario. You're
at church, your mind, your business, and Frank Castle walks
in like just full of what the kids called aura,
just aur farming the hell out of the situation, right.

(23:37):
The pastor says, chill, let them do their thing. We
don't what no smoke, and Frank Castle goes with there,
gives us hell berries. It rolls out like these guys
were problems before the Russians showed up and started trouble.
I think it's your point. I agree with you.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
Watch and yeah, when you talked about calm before the storm,
I didn't want to bring that up because that was
for me when I saw that, it's like, yeah, you yeah,
you probably shouldn't do that the bears, you know what
I mean. Like if there's like talking in church is
one thing, you know what I mean, you may look
at your phone, but nah, getting up and walking behind

(24:13):
the priest, you don't. Probably don't want to do that.

Speaker 5 (24:17):
Turbo Catholics, Doug, dude, Yeah, they are extreme Catholic.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
I think I think they're I think the way they
went in, for some reason was justified for the congregation
because in a sense, nobody seemed to beat an eye,
with the exception of the priest, because the priest seemed
to understand like, all right, well here they come, here's
those woodlums.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
But also here they come, and I can't do anything
about it.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
I just can't do anything about it, you know, Because.

Speaker 5 (24:50):
I just can't do anything about it. They're going to
be rude and interrupted service. But really what they're doing
is they're still they're they're giving their alms. You know,
they're they're they're paying their their blessings to God, you know,
as any good Christian would do. So what do you
say to that? What do you say to that, No,
you can't do that here, Like if I mean you can't,
you can't. So I you know, not only was the
priest's hands tied in that in that situation, but at

(25:12):
the same time, why would anybody morally who's morally sound
want to do something like that? And again question that's
what I'm saying. It gives question to understanding are these
boys morally sound? And okay, and back back to your
baptism scene baptism reference when the boys realize when when
you know, when they're in the jail cell and and

(25:34):
Shepherd's we will be for thee, my Lord, for thee,
and they have this vivid dream of what they're what
they're supposed to do, and vivid dream of their calling,
and they both you know, wake up out of it
and like, yeah, fuck it, let's do it.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
We're doing it. Let's go. And it's it seems like.

Speaker 5 (25:48):
As much as they don't have the answers to what's
gonna happen in the next in the next few days,
next few weeks, whatever their future timeline is.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
They already know what's going to happen. At the same time.

Speaker 5 (25:57):
It's really interesting and really weird, and I cannot wait
to talk about the connection between them and just so
you guys, yeah, yeah, because I spoilers are spoilers ahead, spoilers,
We're gonna spoil the hell out this movie.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
I loved all your points to it's it's time to
get it's time to get into it. But the part
we all love to do, the plot. Let's get into it. So,
as just mentioned, our boys get into some riff raff
with the titular Russian gang, who's not the only gang
they're fighting this this film. One of them to figures

(26:33):
out exactly what happened, they just show up to the
they turn themselves in to the police station, and they're
pretty much made heroes. They're on the news, the Saints,
they're already, uh, they're they're already like vigilantes. Who's just
everyone to seem to accept because they stood up for
themselves and defeated the gang bangers or they're not gang bangers,

(26:57):
but the gangsters. They're in church to mention the mom
the Russian mob. They have this, they have this like
joint epiphany of their true calling, which is what exactly,
which is to smite evil wherever their trouble.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
G I.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Joe was there, and throughout the rest of the film,
it's almost told like Rationamon's style, if that makes sense,
whereas like William to Foe is following their footsteps. So
you never see it happen, right, you only see what
William de Foe's interpretation of the events.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
I love that, by the way. I love that that
he doesn't that way you know, that's up the.

Speaker 5 (27:35):
Crime and he doesn't set up the actual action of
the crime.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
I actually I still don't know exactly what happened. It
keeps because you're you're it's it's an unreliable narrator, you
know what I mean. So I just love the function
of this film, and I want to just talk plot.
Just open film, open source. Let's just talk about your
feelings about the plot. Are these guys supernatural? Are they

(27:59):
not hit? I just want to hear you guys' ideas
about this stuff.

Speaker 5 (28:04):
Okay, since we already put out the warning for spoilers,
I want to say that I don't know. I don't
know much about their supernatural ability abilities. I do know
that their calling was already predetermined by their blood.

Speaker 4 (28:18):
When El Duce discovers that these boys are his own sons, by.

Speaker 5 (28:23):
You know, discovering that they're saying the family prayer at
the end of the movie, I'm so glad you already
made the warning for spoilers, so here it is. This
is the very first time that I actually discovered Oh shit,
like they already knew, this was already planned, This was
already a predetermined destiny for them, you know what I mean,
Which is why, which is why it came so natural
to them, and why.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
It was so easy for them.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
Not easy for them to kill, obviously it wasn't because
on top of blessing those that they killed, they asked
for forgiveness, you know.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
That's why they went to confession, you know.

Speaker 5 (28:54):
What I mean, Like, there's still some morality in there,
believe it or not as monstrous as these murders were.
But I find I find the best parts of the
movie are the conflict between themselves and their dad, which
they don't even know exists, which is really cool.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
The shootout scene was brutal. The last scene where where
they're shooting at each other. They're going at it with
each other.

Speaker 5 (29:19):
They're they're they're they're literally trying actively to kill their father.
Their father is literally actively trying to kill his sons,
and he has no idea, They have no idea that
this is actually happening in real life. They're going back
and forth. All they know both sides, all both sides
know is that I'm killing the bad guy.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
Blows me away, blows me away. Both sides are actively
trying to kill the bad guy. So who's the bad guy?

Speaker 5 (29:45):
And that's kind of what makes my favorite part of
the this entire movie the end scene where they're prey
praying over Roco's body because Roco ends up passing away.
He ends up getting killed, and they're praying over his
body and Dad walks in and they hear the gun
click because he's putting it away and he's just trying
to put the safety on. Immediately, they turn around and
they throw their guns in his face and they're like, yeah,

(30:06):
we're gonna fucking shoot you.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
As soon as they see him, they already recognize him
before he even starts speaking. They put the gun away
and it's like, dude, oh shit, Dad what's up. It's
really weird. It's so weird the way it's then.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
I guess if you would look at it today, Oh
that was that happened too quick. It shouldn't have happened
that quick. But honestly, I think the setup was so perfect.
That scene was very chilling. Actually, yeah, such the best
part of the plot to me is is the dynamic
between the boys and Aldo Chin. I know it doesn't
happen till later in the film, but man, is it good.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
And just to tie where I'm coming from with the
supernatural ability, is that I noticed that after the baptism,
the jail baptism, they start doing things what they shouldn't
have been able to do. I want to talk about
my favorite scene of the film, which is their initial

(31:00):
of their first night out as the Saints and the
Masks breaking into that hotel room where that mob scene
it's going on, and they're they're in with their fucking rope.
You gotta have rope, right, They're in the du they're
the Ducks, and they're arguing with each other and tussling
in them in the in the ducks, dug. It is

(31:21):
so stupid and these guys, mind you from the narration
of William Dafoe. This it may have happened completely differently.
These dudes break out of the duck with the element
of surprise, get caught in the rope, dangle upside down,
and start matrix shooting the entire room in perfect synchronization.

(31:42):
That's unhuman, Doug. That doesn't work out that when they
would have died, Doug. If this was a normal Martin Scorsese,
one of the one at least got clipped. It was
perfect precision. And even after that, when they go into
the strip bar, you know what I mean, and they
just go and clear that spot out, you know, and
and it's all told by William Dafoe's you know, kind

(32:02):
of vision. But then you go into like you were
talking about to El Dutch, who they had himed up
like he was Hannibal Lecter because he was so proficient
at killing mobsters, Like you said, the powers of the
father being bestowed upon the children. He was unstoppable to
the appointment. It's at to lock him away for thirty
years because he was too good, and he started going

(32:23):
after the people who hired him, and he was unstoppable,
And you start to feel like these kids are unstoppable,
and they escape the most ridiculous situations, like you mentioned
the death of Raco. These guys were dead to rights,
tied up in the in a mob basement, surrounded by
goons that they should have not survived that situation, but

(32:45):
they were blessed by God. Their whole blood line was
blessed by God to be avenging angels. So there's this
element of supernatural. It's an element of divine intervention. I
won't say supernatural, there's an element of divine intervention. And
everything they do, they okay, we're talking spoilers. Just my
last thing I want to say. They're in the courtroom.

(33:08):
They they gangland execute the main boss, and the next
scene is them in a and the next scene is
them inside of a hotel talking about their constitution. How'll
they get out there? Out of there? How did the
cops not catch them? How are these guys just the
cops on it?

Speaker 4 (33:28):
Yeah? The cops are in on it easily.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (33:30):
So yeah, do you remember the scene where the where
the guy pulls the fire alarm.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
That's detective, that's one of the detectives. Yeah, that's the
detechnic pulling the fire alarm.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
So these guys are protecting.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
By the law, so they are technically superheroes.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
They're Batmanaman, They're the Punisher. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
They're the punisher.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
Yeah, they're definitely protected vigilantes. And you know, Mike, to
your point about superheroes divine intervention, I don't know what uh,
Terry Duffy, Troy Duffy, one of these Star Wars. When
I'm close to a Star Wars name, which is why

(34:10):
it's confused to be great, I don't know what he
what his vision was trying to say, It wasn't divine intervention.
I'm assuming so saints the divine intervention. They're sure was
it superheroe? I don't know, or if it's just dumb

(34:31):
luck cool. I will say that to the point of
William Dafoe's character, and this is what I think makes
it a super interesting movie is if you take out
his narration of events, things can become way more serious
and way more downtrodden and way less ethical real quick.

(34:57):
So when we get to the end, when and when
when dafoees in the church, uh, delivering his confession, it's
a needed scene because that's Duffie telling us the audience. What, hey,
I this is how I want you to feel about this,
because otherwise you could be left confused, going what am

(35:22):
I supposed to be thinking here? And thus which could
get a lot of people in trouble with something like this,
you know what I mean, talking God, divine intervention, Saints
killing people, all the hyper violence that was going on. So, uh,
Diablo Diablo Dafoe's character, you know, is a needed entity

(35:48):
for this film and for the actions of the Saints
to even be deemed uh just a viable justifiable to
begin with to begin with. And yeah, yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
That's an excellent point. And you bring up another one
of my favorite scenes is the the confessional scene.

Speaker 5 (36:09):
Please tell me this is next. I'm just going by
what I remember from the docket.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
I kind of.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yes, I'm sorry, I could help.

Speaker 5 (36:20):
We're here, which is the best scene of the film, and.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
I so want to talk about and yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
So there's two characters that I feel we would do
a disservice to this episode if we didn't give their time.
One is Rocco. One is William Dafoe's character. His name
escapes me for right now, but let's start with William Dafoe.
He is such a complex character in this film, and
like Watsh was saying, he is our Paul Paul Schmecker,

(36:55):
Detective Smecker, just just a mystery of a human subtly flamboyant,
sharp as attack has his own moral code, which is honestly,
you're seeing shaken as he starts to follow the Saints
through their Some would see it as avenging angel. Some

(37:15):
would see it as massacre because, mind you, these guys
aren't going after the Saints. The Saints are hunting them.
The Saints are going to their businesses, The Saints are
going into their meetings and murdering them in cold blood.
So going to wash his point that outside of the
lens of the sympathetic Schmecker, this could be a horror movie.

(37:37):
This could be like a thriller based upon how these
guys are operating, and it's all about your point of view,
like and I think once again it's kind of like
the Cringey But honestly, it tells you how to feel.
At the absolute end of the film, where they're doing
the interviews, I hate you know, one person says, I
hate the Saints. They make it so I can't go outside.

(37:59):
They're the guys that I want to be a saint.
I'm down. A lot of people know comment. So it's
like William Defoe's character is us trying to digest what's
going on.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
And I don't credit scene was brilliant.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
Yeah, I don't know about Los Angeles, but in Chicago
we had the Guardian Angels growing up, same type of deal,
and it's not a vigilante organization. It's a community organization,
but they're there to keep the streets safe per se.
But it can also sometimes be done in numbers. Thus
it's kind of looked at as man it's kind of

(38:34):
a forceful piece, isn't it question mark? And so you
have that there, that that tension there, So.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
Yeah, you make a good point. It's like it's almost
like a very thin line between ventilancia, between being a
vigilante and being a murderer. Because these guys aren't clocking
gums like the head with a battery and sending them
to jail. Everyone's dead, do they're killing people? So that's
where the line blurs, and it's like is this justifiable

(39:04):
or not? And William de Foe wrestles with that the
entire film until the very end. Where he decides, now
these guys are doing the right thing.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
And I think about it from the what if it
had ended in a much different way. Just the entire
movie stays the same, except for at the end the
Saints die in a bloody shootout against the cops and
the cops are shown as heroes of Boston. Or doesn't

(39:33):
that change the feeling of everything you just watched without
that that brilliant defoe.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
It's interesting because the other swing of that is that
they're killed in cold blood by the cops that made martyrs.
Now we have a hole like you back to your
Hell's Angels, right back to your Guardian Angels. Now you
have entire squadrons of boondock Saints in every city.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
Right, it's like a little violent crazy.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
That's just the purge.

Speaker 5 (40:10):
Know what that is is people being fed up with
getting mugged and getting the cars broken into. And it's
so interesting that that end credit scene, like I said,
was super brilliant because it almost felt very raw and
and and some and some of those interviews that are
good actors, because it felt really really real, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 4 (40:27):
So what what makes it so interesting?

Speaker 5 (40:30):
And why I think the film would float well today
is because those are the arguments we're having now.

Speaker 4 (40:36):
Do you listen to yourself, listen to yourself? You sound crazy?

Speaker 5 (40:39):
Those are the same fucking arguments we're having today over pettiness,
over petty things. This is even about a life or
dead situation. This is what we sound like today. This
movie was an interesting premonition as to what's actually going
on in today's society. And this movie was made before
nine to eleven, mind you, it was made before or

(41:00):
the turn, before our very first realistic tragic event that
happened on our homeland, like where we felt, where we
actually felt for the.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
First time in a very long time in generations. I'm
not safe. I'm not safe at home. Yeah, so it's
this isn't even This movie almost like predicted.

Speaker 5 (41:17):
The human nature of what the the way we were
going to argue with each other, and how like the
one that got me, honestly was listen to yourself. The
guys on the basketball court hearing that, listen to yourself.
Do you hear yourself? You sound like you sound like
a sissy.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
Or whatever he says.

Speaker 5 (41:32):
But goodness, goodness, those those arguments were so realistic and
so relatable and uh what I wanted to add to that,
but I wanted to go back to Oma Foe because
it kind of fascinates me just a little bit, actually
a lot of bit. First of all, a lot of
green Gobby vibes. I don't know, very very early green Gobby.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
But is it is it green Gabby or is it
just you see green Gabbley and William Dafoe and everything
he does.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
I think it's a little bit of both. I think
it's a little bit of both.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Here's the think about William the Foe. This man is
born to play green villains because I'm getting joker vibes
out of this where he's like, I need I want
to cream bagel extra, you know, extra cream cheese. You
know hees he's giving up.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
But here's the thing. He was also barely gay.

Speaker 5 (42:29):
There was, like, I mean, there was an implication that
he was that way.

Speaker 4 (42:33):
Nobody said a word. It's not like the guys were like,
look at this guy, or you know what I mean.
There was nothing of that was there was.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
And they did.

Speaker 5 (42:43):
But see, but that's Boston. Boston thinks everyone's gay until
they're not.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
So that's what I don't know. I didn't. I didn't
take it that way. Boston thinks, every look at this faga,
you know what I mean. I'm probably gonna have to
bleep that out. But but but that's.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
How they they are that good enough.

Speaker 5 (43:01):
That's look look all right, No obviously I'm I'm I'm
speaking like, but that's how they are, like very like.
There there's there's a there's there's an uh uh uh apprehensiveness.
There's a brick wall that's held up between people who
I don't know who you are. I don't want you
around me. You're probably a little girl, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 4 (43:18):
And that was I thought.

Speaker 5 (43:20):
I found that to be extremely perfect and very fitting
for that movie because he never made an indication that
that's how he was.

Speaker 4 (43:27):
He only started acting that way because he knew it
was gonna bother him. It's fasting what makes it so brilliant.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Yeah, it's interesting because I always found him a self hating,
like a self hating like homosexual, because you know, there's
there's multiple scenes where he's literally in bed post coitus
with the man and they're snugged up and he pops
up inside his head, what are you doing? Why are
you trying to snuggle with me, Get off me. There's
the scene where he drops the F bomb in the
gay bar where he's chilling, where he's about to get

(43:54):
the information, you know what I mean? Which F bomb?
All right, all right February ah, and you know it
is it's it just builds to his character, you know
what I mean. And it builds to his almost mystique
because he's very much in this movie the what's the

(44:16):
name of the the dude who was always chasing Sherlock Holmes?
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Uh, dang it.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
You know I'm talking about he's always one step behind Holmes.
And it's the constable that is always like looking at
the crime scenes a second later than Holmes and Homes
already has it all figured out. He gives me that
kind of That's another thing.

Speaker 4 (44:38):
He's confidently wrong. Yeah, he's confidently wrong. Like the first
half the movie, he gets it and it was like,
oh wow, how did he understand that? How did he
get that? How did he know?

Speaker 1 (44:47):
How did he's so sharp?

Speaker 5 (44:48):
And then he's so damn good he gets it wrong
and thinks he's still right until it's too late.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Oh yeah, okay, yeah, miss this's he's seeing things logically
or in logical things are happening. It's gotta be like
because he originally thought it was like a group of
people that did this right, you could have to be
like three or four guys, not just two guns. Two guns.
And then he did the what if it's just one guy?

Speaker 4 (45:13):
What if it's just one guy and six guns?

Speaker 1 (45:16):
Yeah, and he's like that's impossible, you know, And he
has his tangent.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
Moule the thinking to me very cocky.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Yeah, yeah, he's very cocky. He said, if I if
I have to ask the Boston Police Department to do
my thinking for me, you might as well put me
in the body bag. He cusses about exactly yep, because
he's so he's so cocky, and you see him break
to the point where he's drunk at You see him
break throughout the movie, especially the scene where he's like

(45:46):
just someone he takes the blood, smells it, puts it.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
To the figure. He's flipping out.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
He's like, what the can't use he can't use it,
this all this bloody he's that's when he saw the break. Happy,
he's done. He's no longer a cop. He that was
he bodied evidence that was it, you know what I mean.
And just to before we move on to the next slide,

(46:19):
I want to talk about Rocco. I want to talk
about our man Roco. And it's funny. I was talking
to Mike Prime about this film shortly before this went loud,
because he always calls and Axe, what we're gonna be doing?
So you want as I told him like a week before,
ay Pops, And he called me like Wednesday or something,

(46:40):
and he said he wasn't very happy with the film,
you know what I mean. He was not He didn't
like it kind of going to toss Boston, you know,
like sentimentality. He had that kind of sentimentality where it's
like he just couldn't handle Way in the false character,
and he really didn't like Rocco. And it was an
interesting reason why. It's because Rocco was like really the

(47:03):
instrument of a lot of their trouble, you know what
I mean. Rocco was the catalyst of a lot of
their when their problems really started to happen. It's because
it was Rocco's intervention him Rocco losing control and killing
that entire den of mob bosses when he found out,
he got set up, you know, Rocco putting them on

(47:24):
the radar of that of that mob boss, you know
what I mean, which causes all their problems. Though, Rocco
as once again just like the Saints, charismatic, hilarious, you
know what I mean, just salt of the earth character,
extremely problematic and almost got those guys killed multiple times.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
Yeah, is not the words of using give me a beer.
I'm like, I'm not a big fan of Rocco's character. Rocco,
I find them like I like, if if I was
out there doing stuff he's type it was, I'm like, yeah,
I don't.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
I can't have you around, bro.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
He would like that in real life he would not
be around me either. Yep, I agree with that him.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
I didn't find him I'm the funny man. But he's
really funny. Even though the one joke was a tad
bit funny, even though I don't remember, but I remember after.
I can't say that joke, man, Yeah, you can't say it.
You can't say it, but yeah, oh that's the joke. Yes,
I did laugh. Sorry at any rate. So yeah, that's

(48:32):
that's what.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Yeah, Rocco is great man. Rocco is the fly in
the ointment. It reminds me of that always Sunny episode
where Charlie was the wild the wild card, and you
could never the wildcard, and he's just you know, it's
the wild card just causes chaos and Charlie and Charlie
and Rocco was definitely an agent of chaos, you know

(48:54):
what I mean, especially when he accidentally killed that cat,
which was the most one of the most insane moments
of the movie.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
I love that scene.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
It's I can't believe that just fucking happened.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
It seems so real. What color was it, bitch?

Speaker 4 (49:11):
My?

Speaker 5 (49:11):
The only problem I have with Rocco is that there
there was a major that guy brought most of the
cringe to the movie.

Speaker 4 (49:17):
Catch You on the flip side.

Speaker 5 (49:20):
Rocco did cause a lot of cringey moments in the movie.

Speaker 4 (49:24):
For sure, he was he was the reason for that.

Speaker 5 (49:27):
But yeah, in real life, that man would never be
anywhere near anything any type of operation that I.

Speaker 4 (49:33):
Was trying to work with. And it's really it's really
sad because that guy was only looking for acceptance like
a board. Yeah, he was just looking to be accepted. Yeah,
it's kind of a sad, sad.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
Ending he couldn't fit in with the mob. He could,
he really couldn't fit in with the Saints.

Speaker 4 (49:52):
He was just trying to Then all of a sudden,
all of a sudden, he was trying to do something good.
He was not. He's not a good guy.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
So I mean that.

Speaker 4 (50:00):
That's another that's another thing. Rocco was not the Saint
the Saints. Rocco's not a good guy. He worked for
the mob.

Speaker 5 (50:05):
He was gonna hustle and swindle and fucking cut the
wrung rug from people as many times as he could,
so long as it brings him up. When he realized
he couldn't do that anymore, all of a sudden, he's
the good guy. I know all these guys. We can
we can kill everybody. That's literally one of the things
he says, we can kill everybody.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
We can kill everyone.

Speaker 4 (50:25):
And he wasn't in for it to make amends until
he started to see what the Saints were doing.

Speaker 5 (50:31):
Like there's a scene in the strip club where he
touches the girl's boob right as she's as she's passed out,
and he he immediately feels conviction and he feels guilty
for that, and he's like, hey, I need to make
up for that. So, as clueless as he is as
how it is to make amends, yeah, I'll tipper as
close as he is about it.

Speaker 4 (50:53):
He's trying.

Speaker 5 (50:55):
So is it a matter of him just wanting to
be accepted by anybody or was he actually trying to
redeem himself?

Speaker 1 (51:01):
I think I think the turn for Rocco was where
they had him be. It was for my favorite scene,
the hotel scene. He was supposed to be the assassin.
They gave my man a six shooter with twelve bodies
in there for nine people. Yeah, he was like, and
that's where Rocco put it together. And in the in

(51:21):
the Saints, we're trying to tell him they were gonna
get you killed. Bro, you were gonna you may have
tooken out the main guy and maybe a couple of them,
but you weren't walking out that room. Somebody was gonna
clip you. And he was like, no, No, that's just
not how this is done. You got to talk about
your ass You don't know how this mob stuff works, bro,
I know a math works. They set you up, and
that's where Rocco flipped and was like, like you said

(51:42):
over the selfish. He was like I just kill them all.
They they double crossed me. They were gonna get me killed.
And even even in the in the Delhi where he
was talking to those two Gutons who were just talking
about Yeah, man, we're gonna be promo, We're gonna be made.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
Man.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Now they gotta know where good feelings now once again
cartoonishly evil, right, And he looked at Rocco and say,
you know, hey, you know all is all's fair and
fun and you know all's fair. Man, you're the funny guy. Dude.

Speaker 4 (52:09):
At least we got our funny guy back.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Yet then he shot that one poor guy in the face.
He shot the dam Everyone got clipped, but he unloaded
a clip into the freaking like owner who was probably
had connections, but he wasn't like the mob boss. He
didn't deserve to get shot.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
Because the bartender was the first one who knew yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
You before you did. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Funny fuddy fuddy bartender who kills the yeah was out
of control, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (52:46):
Out of control.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
It's a sad ending to a sad man. And in
this context of this movie is hilarious and great. But
like you guys said, in real life, you don't want
to be friends with Rocco. Rocco's gonna get you him
up and mixed up quick, you know what I mean.
So oh to Rocco. Man, here we are. Let's give

(53:11):
your final thoughts and score this bad boy zero out
of five rosaries. What are you going to give it?
Let's start with wash tell us your thoughts, my mom
final thoughts.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
On the Boondock Saints. Violent movie. Violent movie. And I
think that's just my age at the stage showing a
little bit because it's not like it's anything too terribly crazy,
especially for you know what we see on television today.
But in the context of an hour and forty minutes. Yeah,

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there seemed to be quite a bit of head splatter
all over. So that is one thing. As far as
the story goes, story's good. I remember part two. I
ironically we don't talk about part ten. Well, ironically they're
making a part of three. It's in development, like I read,

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and according to the screen rant as early as like February,
Sean Patrick said, yeah, this thing's being written. Part three
is being written, so there could be a part three
for me. I like it is it a cult classic
for me at this stage? No, but it is a

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movie I wouldn't turn off if it was on. So
I will give it at three out of five rosaries.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
That's fair. That's honestly a very fair assessment.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
It's it's your cup of tea, but it's not your
cup of tea. You know what I'm saying. You know
what I'm saying. So I get that, Toots. What are
your thoughts?

Speaker 4 (54:56):
So I still very much love this movie.

Speaker 5 (54:59):
I'm very happy that I took the time to actually
go back and review it again and watch it again
because there again, there's no like nostalgia involved in it,
to be honest, no like memories.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
It's just just a kind of a solid movie.

Speaker 5 (55:14):
I love the being able to look back in hindsight
and understanding the real realistic vigilante justice part of it,
and understanding like, hey man, if this were to happen
in real life, it might happen very similar to what
it's happening here, which I think is really cool. Yeah,
I wanted the only thing, Yeah, like I said, aside

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from the cringe in the entire movie, given the timeline
or given the time when it came out, Uh, you know,
it could do without it, but you know, it is
what it is. Also, I want to mention the over
use of blood in the hostage scene. There's a why
were their faces completely red with blood? Like, come on,
you guys anyway, So there's that. But as far as

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my verdict, I want to give it a four to
five rosaries only because like I said, like I think,
I think if this movie changed certain scenes and made
them and alternated them to what's going on today, there
isn't that many that they'd have to do that with.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
So yeah, four to five roses.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
For me, very good, very good. Once again, solid number,
because this movie is not bad by any stretch of
the imagination. And mind you, I haven't watched this movie
in years since we've watched it right now. Like tut said,
it's not really a barn Burner, it's not Batman, it's
not you know, Pirates of the Caribbean. It's not something

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that I got to return to every once in a while.
It's just one of those movies that was excellent when
I watched it. And I mentioned earlier in the beginning
of this review that it reminds me of a lot
of directors first films, and one movie really reminds me
of it. It goes speaks to wash his discernment that
he came into a thinking it was a mob movie,
but it became something different. It reminds me a lot

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of From Dusto Dawn by Robert Rodriguez, which starts one
way and goes to completely opposite direct.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
Extra And we've never done a review of that, any
of these chattels.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
Yet, No, not yet, not yet, not say it like that,
not yet. Like it rerids me of like Robert Rodriguez,
you know, kicking ass and taking names. And it's just
an enjoyable watch anytime you'll watch it. It's like it
can And this is kind of movie where you're like, hey,
you haven't seen Boon Dot Saints. Yeah we're watching this tonight.

(57:29):
Yeah you haven't seen from Dustal Dawn. We're watching this tonight.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
It's that kind of like it's a it's it's a
roller coaster ride. It gets you thinking, I love you know,
outside of the cringey moments, some moments that are just
way too cartoony for me, Like I think the Boss
was a little overdone, you know what I mean, the
main boss, Like we talked about this oleor like that

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guy's a little bit too much, you know what I mean.
But all that aside his damn super Mario over here, w.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
Don't choot me my body.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
You know, guy's killing me. Man, He's the only thing
that completely takes me out the movie every single time.
You know, you take all of the fun out of
the drop. You know what I'm saying. Why he's he
this dry ass sandwich dug, you know what I'm saying.
So all that aside, I didn't even get to talk
about the dude, the Dutch, the El Duce, who was

(58:31):
just this comic book character, you know, and his son's
coming together being this force for good quote unquote. And
of course the interview at the ants ties like a
nice little sweet bow, you know what I mean. I'm
ready to get BIZZI that black guy at the end,
I'm ready to get.

Speaker 4 (58:46):
I'm ready to get Bezie.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
I'm ready to get biz. I don't know why he
sticks out of my brain. But if I had to
score this bad boy, I would give it. Honestly, I
love this fucking movie. Man. I'm I'm nitpicking with Captain
Kulo over here. I gotta give it a four point five.
I gotta go it down the middle. It's not a
perfect film. It's not a perfect film, but if it's on,

(59:09):
I will not turn it off. It's one of those
where I just love watching. I used to to tell you,
we used to watch this over and over and over.
It was just one of those that were just on
in the background, and I enjoy it as much every
time that I watched it. And I even told myself, like,
I watched this a week ago, just on a random night,
all we're doing Boon non Saints. I watched it again
before this episode, just because I felt like watching it.

(59:31):
It's a fun thing to have on, you know, working
on my fig pins. You know, I cherished this movie.
The sequel not so much. We don't talk about the sequel,
but this first outing by this director, I think it's
as strong as any other first outing by any A
list director in Hollywood. I put this up against anybody's

(59:53):
first outing because this is a solid attempt to, in
my opinion, make us superhero movie. I think this is
low key a superhero movie, and I made that just
maybe the master of the nerdiverse here talking up my neck.
But those are my sentiments about maybe what was going
on in the back of the head of Troy Duffy.

(01:00:14):
This was a good This was a This episode turned
out so much more in depth than I thought it
was gonna be, you know what I mean. How are
you guys feeling about how this episode turned out?

Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
I think it's kind of a deep movie. Yeah, it's
a good episode. I agree for sure.

Speaker 5 (01:00:31):
By the way, the average out of US three is
a three point two, So a three point two rosaries
out of five fairs.

Speaker 4 (01:00:37):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
That's better than no rosaries.

Speaker 4 (01:00:42):
Hey, and Shepherds, we shall be.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
You know what I'm saying. But the question is do
you have the rest? Do you have the resolution to
continue with with with the dirty You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:00:56):
That's the question right right, see that that's a good quote,
and that's very dismissed when when his dad actually comes
at them with that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
You have the constitution, but can.

Speaker 5 (01:01:06):
You actually you have the fortitude. You have the fortitude
to keep keep doing it, keeping it. You're doing this,
You're going to continue to kill people. You have to
keep killing people in order to make right by the Lord.

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
It's crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:01:20):
That's a crazy thing. Like that's insane.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
In a different lens. This is a horror movie, you know,
in a different fire. Yeah, these guys are just Jason Voorhies.
You know teenagers, you forticate smoke weed. These are the same.
It's the same kind of modus operandi, but you know,
written in a different lens. Oh Man, this has been

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Wash will have ascended to space and Toots will be
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of a small country. You know what I mean, A
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You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
So may have moved on, but you know, MLTN A
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Out thanks for having me. Been a blast, always a
good time.

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Out