MOTN Reviews: Eyes of Wakanda (2025)

Wash and Mike G travel across time to review the 4 episode #disneyplus event #eyesofwakanda! Does this series live up to the mantle of #blackpanther? Watch and find out!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
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(00:51):
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me tonight is wash. What's going on, sir?

Speaker 1 (01:10):
What up? Happy to be here? Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
It's another night reviewing, another Disney Marvel property. So these
are always good times to be had, Yeah, Disney and
Marvel that.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
For a second, I was thinking Star Wars my bad
on not true.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Star Wars may be mentioned in this episode. Outside of
this moment tonight, we're doing something a little different. We
don't often get to review whole seasons of things, but
just the way this thing fell, it just happens to
line up perfectly. We're looking at Eyes of Wakanda. I
don't know if this is a one off. I don't
know if this is getting seasons, but this was definitely

(01:50):
a streaming event. What what do you even classify? This
is not a TV show, It's more like a streaming
I'm calling a streaming event.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
I've been calling it a vignette, a little taste of
a vignyard, a Star Wars visions type of category for
Eyes of what kinda I don't want to say that
it's the only one they'd done. Maybe an animation it is,
but I put it in there with the Agent forty
sevens of the world, you know what I mean, those

(02:20):
small little cuts. So this is a tad bit more
of a of a bigger slice of a small cut.
If that makes sense, so we'll get to see like
a thorough vision.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Absolutely, that's a very vision. That's a very good word
to use when talking about the ambition and the scope
of this series. You've been fresherried than I am. How
long were these episodes?

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Like an hour?

Speaker 3 (02:43):
If I remember correc no twenty nine minutes clocking in
the longest one being the first one was at thirty
one minutes, and the first one, I would say, did
feel long. The other three cruised right by, didn't even notice,
but the first one I was trying to figure out
what the heck, what's going on? I mean watching so

(03:04):
uh yeah, so the first one just had a lot
going on in it.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, And I think that's gonna be really good for
our initial thoughts. And before we jump into the review,
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(03:29):
know what you thought of Eyes of Wakanda, because I
was totally like kind of blown back by the what
I expected of Eyes of Wakanda. And before we go
into initial thoughts, when you hear eyes of Wakanda and
I guess that is an initial thought, isn't it that
we can just get right into it. What were your

(03:52):
thoughts going into this? What were your expectations?

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Well, I remember texting you and going, what size of
what kinda? Because the trailer dropped, uh, you know, like
what was it four or five months ago, like right
around the other Marvel times. They were starting to hype
up things and I was like, what is this? What's
dropping you? Like, I don't know, And so I had
no idea what was coming. In fact, when I think

(04:18):
about Wakanda being in my vernacular recently, I mean it's
been the spawn of the recent idea I told you about,
and we're talking about it again and then like they
just came up again. It's like, man, maybe maybe Wakanda
is in the air. But my initial thought was I
had no idea what to expect.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
So it was.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Animation, you know how I feel about animation. Ryan Coogler
was executive producer. So I was sold, and you know,
Wakanda wa Kanda forever.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
So because.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Occasionally, very very rarely, once five six months for a
good three four hours of the day. I'll just wander
around muttering what kind of whatever?

Speaker 1 (05:10):
You know what I do.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
I sit around and I watch Black Panther, and I
watch Wakanda Forever, and I look for light skin dudes
like me, and I'm kind of hard pressed. So I
feel kind of maybe I am one of the map.
I'm one of the what are they called the wild dogs?
Is this is war dogs? The war Dogs? Yeah, maybe
i'd be Award Dogs. Yeah, super sick with with the

(05:33):
guy from super Bad.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah, I couldn't.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
I was just like, what what I know it?

Speaker 2 (05:38):
That movie wanted me to go into gun running. But
then I realized I don't have the stomach for gun
running at all. You know, I'll just instantly die. Initial
thoughts on this movie, like you, I didn't know what
to expect. The images didn't match my idea of what
it would be because you get these quick clips of Okay,
when does this take place? What is happening? These are
familiar faces, familiar locations. I was completely had the lowest

(06:04):
expectations possible going into this.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
I was just like, h it's a Saturday night, you
know what I'm saying? Nothing else is out. I'm gonna
order some pizza and repose a figure and I'm just
gonna put this on in the background. And then I
started realizing what it was, and I was like, ooh,
there is fertile ground to be had with a kind
of idea, you know what I mean? And with Marvel.

(06:30):
If you ever read the books, what was it called,
it's there's this great series directed by Jonathan Hicks, written
by Jonathan Hickman where it talks about He's goded man.
You're going to hear it a lot. I can't remember
the name of the series that escapes me, but it
talks about ancient Marvel and like throughout time, like through

(06:54):
Mesopotamia and how Leonardo da Vinci was the goat. He
was like his time's Iron Man. And yeah, I like
the the moon nights throughout history and the Black Panthers
throughout history. It's an excellent read. And this series reminds
me of that of like, you know, what has been

(07:15):
going on with Marvel since it's since the beginning of time,
knowing what the celestials did with the human DNA and
the Devians and all that crazy stuff, Like it's gotta
be a couple of weirdos throughout time, you know what
I mean, the.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
More than a few, I would imagine. Let me ask
you in regards to your initial thoughts, because I'm always
particular about when things drop and when things of this
nature drop, and it's dropped right before Fantastic four had released.
I'm curious, was what kind of mentioned in the Fantastic four?

(07:51):
Was there any mention of the panther?

Speaker 2 (07:54):
If you can't, if I don't, I didn't catch it right, Like,
there's a whole United Nations scene where there's tons of
little countries that are kind of sprinkled into the room,
but their focus was on Latinvaria. So there could have
been a Wakanda floating around in there that my eye
didn't catch because it was like, Oh that Veria, Oh

(08:15):
that Veria. You know, so it may have been mentioned.
I haven't really watched any screen rants fifteen things you
missed about the Fantastic four First Steps Well.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Shout out Screening R. We're not hating.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Good job, it doesn't work with us.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
But but yeah, that's exactly what I was wondering, because
I am curious about you know what initial thoughts. My
initial thought it being a Marvel property. They're putting black
Panther on their Eyesawa Kanda. My initial thought is what
is it? Where does it go? And how does it
fit in? It may be wrong, but that's the initial thought.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
No, that is you're not wrong to think that because
Marvel's all about stret planning and synergy, right, So it's
like this comes out right before it makes you think, like,
what are their plans for Wakanda? What are their plans
for the black Panther? And that's going to kind of
go into our next slide. But my initial thoughts was
what is this, you know what I mean, like and

(09:17):
what is it? And this is technically a phase five
you know event, so it has does it tie into anything?
And you'll kind of get my thoughts on that at
the end of our review. But my initial thoughts was
I just was might have the expectations to the ground
nothing you know what it was? It was nothing really
to latch onto. I didn't have a hero to latch onto.

(09:39):
I didn't have a time to latch onto. So it's
hard for me to kind of become invested, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
I mean the only thing there was was vibranium, That's
the only thing that like you could latch go into
was the vibranium threading all of it together for better
or worse, you know, Like it's a little weird.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
But you know, we did a whole lore on Animantium, bro.
But I'll go watch that. It so fair enough, you
know what I mean? Forget yeh, Yeah, that's a sick
ass episode. Oh ship.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
I want to talk about like the Wakandan legacy. I
want to talk about you know what I'm saying, Uh,
like the expectations of something like this, and how we've
seen the brand of Black Panther become kind of singed
a little bit with the passing of Chadwick Boseman and
kind of the rebound of Wakanda Forever, the film.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
I don't I never asked you. Did you watch Wakanda
Forever with Nay more In? Oh?

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah, I liked it.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
I didn't.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
I didn't necessarily understand all the hate, especially under the circumstances,
but being a Black Panther fan when when they announced
and it being Phase five, it being animation, it being
one of its own, the standard kind of comes with

(11:08):
all of that. Unfortunately, you know what I mean. So
I can understand you going in with a tad bit
of a lower expectation, just being like, you know what,
I don't know what this is, so let me not
hide myself too much. That said, there's a reason they
put Coogler's name on it. It's like this is going
to be Black Panther type quality, and to be frankly

(11:30):
honest with you, for a good portion of it. And
we'll get into it more. But you know, I'm not
upset with what I received out of it. As far
as the Black Panther legacy goes. I think it enhances
that legacy if nothing else. And it does leave more
than a few questions just for me in regards to

(11:54):
comics and with your knowledge, but we'll get there.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Absolutely very good point of that. You know, it doesn't
subtract from the legacy. It adds to it, especially for
someone who doesn't necessarily read the comics. But the comics
don't really have any weight on the MCU, you know
what I mean. They kind of do what they want.
The comics are kind of there as a like guidelines,

(12:17):
not really instructions, you know what I mean, And living
up to the mantle of the Black Panther is like,
let's do a black Panther show without Black Panther in it.
Type vive Wa Kanda is strong enough by itself to
keep your interests. Because they're so secretive, we don't really

(12:38):
know anything about the way they operate, you know what
I mean. So let's do an entire show without the
main character. And that's always a bad idea, right always.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
I want to say on this show, we've hitted a
number of times that doing a show about your main
character and the main character not being in the show
doesn't typically turn out too much.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, so that was also kind of in the back
of my brain. I'm thinking about like shows like Gotham
where it's like Batman doesn't show up to the last
frame of the last seventh season. But I'm like, how
is this still going? You know what I mean? Like,
and this is a series where from my from my
understanding going in, it's like, well, Chadwick can't be there
series technically, I don't. I don't think series in this

(13:24):
I don't even know when it takes place. So I
think this had a lot to live up to to
that legacy, and it's like everyone's so tied on the
future of this series. That this decided to go into
the past. It totally is doing the Star Wars thing
where it's like we don't have an answer for the future.
We sure as hell can tell you all about the

(13:44):
past though.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, and what happened.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
That's a good point.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
So it's almost like a pivot of you know, growth,
it's a pivot, it's it's it's a sign step of growth,
you know what I mean. It expands but not moves forward.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
And it definitely allows for some breatheability and a step
away from the live action format. You know me, Mike,
I'm always constantly yelling for this stuff in animation, especially
if you put good storytelling and good artists behind it,
which I don't know anything about art, but I know

(14:26):
what my eyes like, you know what I mean. And
thus it's like, yeah, they that's a valid point where
they're able to this comes out and for us it
has no bearing on oh what's going on that like
mcu wakando except to.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
The end, which to the very end, which we'll get to.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
So yeah, I think we hit some really good points
on just the legacy that this show has to follow
in the kind of pressure that it has. But like
I said, it kind of skirts that pressure by not
necessarily taking on the big questions head on, you know
what I mean. It tells, it paints a bigger picture
of the tapestry that is Wakanda versus Okay, this is

(15:09):
where little T'Challa is. This is where a series is
the questions we want answered, you know, it avoids all that,
So your expectations change once you kind of get a
flow for what this series is giving you.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
You see that photo and it's like Chadwick.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
With self freaking. It breaks your heart, doesn't it?

Speaker 2 (15:30):
The potential it's just like Derek Rose levels of pain,
you know what I mean, where it's like as all
the potential of God's green art, but God decided not
to go for it. Shout out to rest in peace, Chadwick. Man,
what was what could not be?

Speaker 1 (15:48):
You know what I mean? The one in future? King
oh Man shout outs dude.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
So I wanted to approach this review differently because nomberly
we have one focused idea and we kind of break
down the film. But this isn't This comes in four parts, right,
it's almost like through time. So I figured let's just
each Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
I'm glad, because I'm glad you're saying that, because let's
start with your use of the word film. Is that
what you're considering this as a film.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Not necessarily, I'm just saying our approach to our review blueprint,
our review blueprint is usually we think about the initial thoughts,
we break down the plot, we go into spoilers, and
we kind of give a general ideal of our of
our feelings towards the entire project. But because this is
broken into four parts, I want to give each part

(16:39):
its respect in time, you know what I mean. And
luckily it's four so it just it perfectly fits our framework,
you know what I mean. So I want to give
each episode our thoughts on the plot, our thoughts on
its on its effectiveness, and just overall feelings on how
we felt when when it hit the credits. You know
what I'm saying, Yes, I am down with that. That's excellent, perfect,

(17:05):
There's no better place to start in the beginning. Let's
start with into the Lions then, where we get a
bird's eye view of the Wakandan war Dogs, which are
a I would call like a clandestined almost like black
ops group that goes off into the world and reclaims

(17:25):
Wakandan technology from people who would use it for ill will.
And we start off, what was it like eighteen hundred
eight BC.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
I'm gonna be a tad bit sketchy on, but go ahead.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
And yeah, something like that. So we come with our
main heroine. I apologize her for her name escapes me
at the moment, but but she has to infiltrate Naoi.
Thank you, Nony, thank you, Sara. I'm gonna lean on
you for that, because just when it came out, I'm

(18:01):
going straight off memory. I didn't rewatch it, but the
imagery was so strong.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
She had what does that say, spoilers ahead, folks, a
little bit of a teaser, Mike.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
We watch it because it's very there. She had to
infiltrate the almost like Kingping esque regime of the Lion,
who was an ex war dog who decided screw Wakanda
the rest of the earth rules. I'm just gonna I'm
gonna rule things as a golden god. What were your

(18:35):
thoughts on this episode? Let's just let's just start, Macro,
what were your thoughts on all this?

Speaker 3 (18:41):
I love this episode, Like if you want to talk
about an attention grabber, this is villain. I when we
look at the whole thing, I kind of want more
of him. As one of my main highlights. This dude
had no regrets. He was that type of villain, like
I know exactly what I'm doing, I know exactly why

(19:02):
I'm doing it, and I feel completely justified and I'm
super badass.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
So do what you like.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
But know all of that, and you know, I love
that vibe, and so I was able to dig into
this episode. I like the story of Noni, the the outcast,
the outcast guard? What are they in the Emperor Guard?

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Like? What are what's? What do they call? The there?

Speaker 3 (19:40):
There you go. I love the fact that she was
an outcast and couldn't get in, and so they kind
of brought her back to do this specific job. Spoilers, yes,
spoil and so like, I thought that that was a

(20:00):
super cool way to start out this whole thing. And
I thus had a question before we even go further.
Are war Dog something within like the Wakandan like vernacular
or is this something that is new and kind of
made up from you know MCU's point of view.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Very good question. Now, mind you, I'm not the biggest
black panther head right. I had then read it as
a kid. I kind of came into it during like
Civil War and Secret Wars and stuff like that later
in life. But from my understanding is that the love
interests of Chadwick Boseman and Black Panther one was a war.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Dog, she was a spy. They called her a spy.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Oh, she's technically one of these people because she's out
in the world, you know, finding Wakandan artifacts, which is
how they got on kill Manger's radar, you know what
I mean. So they are the outcasts. They are the
you know, you can't come home until the job is
done and home is heaven pretty much type situation. So
there is a precedent of war dogs in Marvel comics,

(21:05):
but they're deep within the Black Panther lore.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
But you were able to make that connection for me,
which definitely helps solidify just even as we're sitting here,
why I was watching it, you know what I mean,
It's like it's on, but I still don't understand why this?
Why now? Why not? Nay more?

Speaker 1 (21:27):
You know what I mean? Like what aver that.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Helps connect that? You know, we have set that precedent
in the MCU of war dogs being out there We
may not have known they were war dogs at the time,
but you know, that's how good things are unfolded.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, that's why I included that image of the Wakandan legacy,
because it made sure that she was in the shot,
because she ties directly into the overarching history of this series,
because she's like the most recent generation war dog.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
What I'm saying, synergy.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
I love this villain, like you said, the lion right
in his almost like sinister six of you know, villains
from all across the world, the Chinese slash, the Japanese swordsman,
the Norse battler with the sword and shield. It was
like something out of Killer of Killers. And I think

(22:25):
the guy was like Mongolian if I'm wrong, like the
Mongolian big warrior, you know what I'm He had his
own little X men that he was rolling around with too,
and still his iron regime. You know.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
He reminded me very much of and I you know,
I felt them pulling from different things, but very much
of kill Bill and the ninety nine, like the ninety nine.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yeah, that's kind of crazy eighty eight.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Yeah, crazy eighty eight. That's kind of the vibe I
was thinking throughout it.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
To that point.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
This, this, this scene or this this episode, fantastic action
throughout the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Beautiful and beautifully choreographed.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Yeah, as an artist, can we stop for a quick
second and talk about this art? Because I don't know
anything about art, as I said, but I was like,
how do you get the background so that it looks
like a painting? Like it looks like you're looking at
like a painting of the freaking van Go or something,
but yet like the motion the art that you're watching

(23:31):
is completely like, you know, something else.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
It was so it was awesome.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
It was awesome.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
I mentioned earlier that, you know what I mean, I
didn't need to rewatch it because it kind of just
kind of locked in my brain. This I tried to
find every production still, like the actual oil paintings and
art from the show to include in this episode, to
give the pay homage to the artists, you know what
I mean, Because the show is, this series is gorgeous.

(23:58):
The art direction is out of its mind, out of
its gored. The fire on the water when she's like
swimming the safety after she had she jumps from boat
to boat to attack each each general of the Lion,
and then finally to confront him on his ship to
gather the Wakandan Wakandan artifacts. I know we're sitting on

(24:20):
this one for a long for a while, but this
is honestly one of my favorite entries of the of
this entire series, the first episode, because it tells a
perfect story of her motivations, his motivations, Wakanda's motivation, and
all how it all fits in the world.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
This completely opened the door to an entirely complete different
thing if they wanted to do it, you know what
I mean. If this it's like, oh, so here's what
we're gonna do. We're just gonna go here and we're
gonna stay in this world for whatever. And they can
pull it off. And I think that that is a
testament to you know, how you start something. And let's

(25:02):
face it, they had three more of them to go,
so they wanted us to watch, so you gotta give
us something and this each one, I'm glad. Each one
kind of has a flavor. And I don't watch Disney movies,
but of classic like a Latin type of me like

(25:23):
like feel like even some of the motion and some
of the interaction it has that very like movie feel
to it, and sometimes You're like, man, this could really
be a two hour movie on its own if you
wanted to, because they have the characters. The characters are
you know, they're live popping and like, ah, oh, craps.

(25:48):
I didn't know I was gonna get energy from this,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah, that's a beautiful poll. It's very almost feels hand
drawn when you know it's not.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
It's like said that a Laddin little Mermaid almost like
Lion king type vibrancy and kinetic energy that each scene.
The said the fight scene and choreography is great across
the board. It's just beautifully illustrated. And I think this
is a very very strong, if not strongest outing of

(26:20):
this entire series because it just paints the picture Solf beautifully.
Any last thoughts on into the Lion Stand before we
move on to the next uh next entry.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Fire Away, Fire fire Away.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
Speaking of fire legends and Lies, which takes place during
the Battle of Thermoprali, I want to say, if my
history is incorrect, where it's like pretty much the the
Odyssey is going on in the background where our Wakandan
word dog has to has to fight and gathered the

(26:57):
Wakandon artifact from you know, what's your name, Don of Troy,
Now that's Helen of Troy. Yeah, he's like part of
the militia of Romans storming Greece, Like so crazy.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
This was wild.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
This was way out of left field for me starting
off the exact same way. What are your thoughts on
this episode?

Speaker 3 (27:22):
I'm glad you said odyssey in the background, because halfway
through this all I could think about was Assassin's Creed
Odyssey and that was like the Red guys me and
the Spurna and the Blue guys being acids. And then
I started looking at it through that lens and I'm like, man,
this is There's a lot of pools like that going

(27:45):
on within the entire series, which is what's kind of
neat about it. But overall, I enjoyed this series. This
series made me get back to my earlier comment in
a previous episode. You can go out and check in
regards to Iron Hard and yo, bro.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
What's up?

Speaker 3 (28:02):
What's Wakanda's why? Well, why aren't they just helping an
old girl out, you know what I mean, flipping her
like fifteen hundred bones, going easy stuff. And you're like, yeah,
they don't roll like that and it's like, what wa
Kanda is not necessarily a nice place and that's what
this episode. I'm like, this episode did not leave me
feeling very well again a Disney episode, because you have

(28:26):
that friendship, that bond and.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Then damn yeah, it reminds you that what Kanda, like
Latin Veria have their motivations and people and the further
back you go in time, people.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Don't get nicer.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
They get they get nastier, they get more desperate, they
get more closed in and this and this episode reminds
you that Wakanda, like it makes sense why Chadwick was
acting the way he did in Black Panther One. Now
the rest of the earth can just with it where
we have to take care of our own and we're
not going to jeopardize that for anything. Once you're out,

(29:10):
you're out until your back end. This dude could not
come home. You had to obtain the bag or he
was gonna be out there forever. And that's pretty much
like the idea you got. And he was so home
homestuck he was he was so home like homesick the
entire time. Dude, you know, and have to keep it
to himself fighting along Achilles, the legendary warrior.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
You know, nine years, nine years, nine years he was
out there running this gambit for this freaking necklace. I
think it was a simple necklace, like like running this
gambit for a necklace, and it's like, man, and then
when you see how it unfolds, and I kind of
don't want to spoil this because it is a bit

(29:52):
surprise how it unfolds, and it's like, man, wa Kanda,
what's up y'all?

Speaker 1 (29:59):
What's calm down? Bro? Can't y'all just be chill?

Speaker 3 (30:03):
Folks?

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Like, hey, they watched Team Team No Chill even no.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
Chill Wakanda, and it really it really, uh this episode
really makes me feel differently about the Empire of Wakanda,
for better or worse. I can look at the movies
now and I'm like, yeah, all of that aggression, that
kind of that kind of makes sense, even the war Dogs,

(30:32):
you know what I mean, even even that first episode,
like the director to uh Nino, it's like, yeah, I'm
you're here to do something.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
You're going to do it.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
You're going you never enjoy it right like you are.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
I don't care the outside.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
You can't come back inside until you until you bring
home the bread, don't even think about coming home, and
thank you for mentioning like it makes you think different
about the Empire of Wakanda. Because one thing that Marvel
does that DC doesn't do that well is give layers
to their heroes, give layers to their institutions. Professor Xavier

(31:16):
is really not the nicest guy in X Men. He's
kind of creepy and weird, and if you read Onslaught,
you know what I'm talking about. Mister Fantastic is a
horrible person on paper. He's done atrocities. Doug iron Man
ran weapons for other countries that were not in the

(31:38):
interest of the United States. Doug, like every single hero
in villain and country and province, have their good sides
to it and have their negative sides to it. And
I think this episode really does a good job of
showing us like no Wakanda has their own agenda throughout
the series, and this is the episode that hits it home.

(31:58):
You feel this guy's pain even at the end of
all things. He's like, I can't even be here anymore.
I'm not even the same man who left, you know
what I mean. I deserve to be outside. I can't
go back inside this. This is what you guys, This
is what Wakanda did to him. He can't go back
home because he's too much of a man of the world.
How do you go back to heaven when you've lived
on Earth? You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Why did they draw Brad pitts uh? I'm damned, just
surprised that Brad didn't voice Achilles like Achilles.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
I'm like, I don't get me wrong, I know that's Achilles,
but that kind of looks like Brad Pitt's.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
A They probably talked a b pitch. Can we use
your likeness a little bit? Just money?

Speaker 2 (32:45):
You don't have to voice it or nothing. We just
we really love Troy and we gotta do it.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
By the way, I hate that movie. That's a great movie.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
I love that he had to hide the Wakanda in
tech throughout the entire series. Like he's sending these low
key like Wi fi uh transmissions in like in like
six hundred ad is a wild you had they have
Wi Fi before the Earth can make an electron. You know,

(33:18):
it's so busted. It's so unfair. What kind of they're aliens?
It's really like, essentially they're aliens. You know what I mean,
And they're like, yeah, tech fell into the wrong hands
and we.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Need to go get that, go clean that up, go
clean it up.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Yeah, we're gonna go do that, and you know it's cool.
But at the same time, you're like, yeah, they kind
of screwed humanity, and it's like yeah, they kind of
are like, yeah, humans, we're gonna keep our vibrant here.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Yeah, we're just gonna be over here. You guys do
over there, and we're just gonna keep charting the stars
and doing wild stuff and we'll go into other crazy
stuff they do. But did you feel that our main
character here had a relationship with the am I just
overthinking that. It felt like they had a relationship. They're
really close, which is nothing wrong. I'm just curious, what

(34:08):
did you pick up that vibe?

Speaker 3 (34:10):
I mean, I don't necessarily think I took it is
that b Kai b Kai is his name be Kai? Yeah,
Kai and Achilles. I don't think I took it as that.
I did take it as though they were close, though,
you know what I mean, they do.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
A lot of battles. Seeing some things that that.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Last scene is it's had been heartbreaking because you think, look,
I come from the World to Star Wars where they're like,
oh you like this person, They're gone, now gone, and
it's like, oh, I wasn't expecting.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
What what the end of this? This broad and So
a Greek tragedy pretty.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Much, you know, tragedy, Yeah, in a lot of ways.
And then I guess the one thing that does bother
me about this is Helena Troy just left. We don't know.
It's another one of those vignettes where I'm like, yeah,
but what history though?

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Now he got what he needed, and all she thought
was it was some kind of pretty trinket, you know
what I mean. They didn't understand the power inherent, you
know what I mean, But Wakandas did. Like you said,
they're pretty much just aliens. Like this person's wearing a
nuke around their neck, and we need to kind of
get that because if they happened to understand at least
a little bit, then it's gonna throw the course of
human history off extra extraditiously. So let's go ahead and

(35:34):
just get that by hooker, by crook, I don't care
how you do it.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
And speaking of that technology, another fantastic use of fight
scenes in this vignette, His power arms right there like
they were. They brought the heat this episode. Did this
episode have the gun?

Speaker 1 (35:51):
That?

Speaker 3 (35:51):
No? That did the No, that's the next one.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Never mind moving on, yep, moving on.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
So so yeah, I thought that this was a sound,
solid episode.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yeah, solid episode.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Still the first episode is still my favorite over this one,
if I have to be completely honest. But I like
seeing what Kanon's through history. I like seeing Marvel through history.
That's the big thing. I like seeing like Achilles is
canon in Marvel History. You know, that's big.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
It is big, and it opens up so many more questions,
which is how come I'm I'm really and I'm not
left wondering because I watched it, but it really.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
What? What? What is this?

Speaker 3 (36:36):
And when you say are we getting season two? Season three?
I don't necessarily need season two or season three? But
are we going to get like, you know, uh, freaking
eternals type of Wakandan movie? Is that what we're about
to get? So I like, I don't understand how Wakandas

(36:58):
have lasted this long, but I do like it.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Now they're just eight eight trillion years ahead of everybody.
And keep this in mind, the path, the wall, and
we're all over here wiping our ass with leaves and shit,
you know what I'm saying, and making houses out of mud.
These fuckers are floating, are flying around in turbo jets
and going to the moon. And mind you, the patheons

(37:22):
are real in the Marvel comics, like Thora is real,
like like okay, aries is real, Like tangible could grab
you deities right, So it makes you think, like, was
Achilles really blessed? Was he superhuman? Possibly? That's the myth,
right Achilles was more than man, didn't seem like it

(37:46):
in this series. Seems just like a really sick warrior.
But it makes you ask questions, where were the Greek
gods during all this? Why do they feel about Wakandan
interference and bast and was there a god war going
on at the same Marva.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Wants to give me that god for I'm here for it,
just like.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Questions where we are? You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Like crazy, Lost and Found Ah, this is an episode
that takes place. I don't know what year this takes place.
It's kind of like in the fifteenth century, I'm assuming
like sixteenth century where a Wakandan war dog finds himself

(38:32):
infiltrating a uh, pretty much kun Lun. If you want
to call a spade a spade, they don't call it
kun Lund, but it's kun lunds the hidden mystical city
of dragons and magic to retrieve wakandon artifacts, but he
brings upon a stowaway that gives him more than he

(38:53):
can handle. It gives Wakanda more than it can handle.
What were your initial thoughts on this one? How did
you feel about this episode?

Speaker 3 (39:02):
I had some thoughts about this episode. I'm gonna start
at the end, dude, his boy, they shouldn't be making him.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
A war dog.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Every every word that you just it was difficult about
being a war dog, right, Like, he entered the mythical
city of the Dragons at magic, and you know what,
he wound up finding his treasure and getting out somewhat clean.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
And then they're like his boy, who is.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
Like, you know, deputy too little over there, but we're
gonna make you a ward dog. And it's like, literally,
I'm like, that's not a good idea considering this job
used to man, that's my first thought about this episode,
and you know, that is what I thought at the

(39:54):
end of the episode. But this was a fun, fun episode.
Disney Vibe for sure one hundred and I definitely watch
this with your kids, folks.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
This is the lightest episode tone wise, because they all
had death, they all dealt with death and kind of
like acceptance, and but this one.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Was kind of like, hey, let's have a good time.
You know.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
Yeah, But Basha isn't isn't necessarily the nicest Wakanda.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
You know, he's subag. Dude's fine.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
He smiles big though, he's got a lot of character.
And this is the one where I was like, oh,
I got energy, you know what I mean. It was
kind of unexpected because the story is kind of simple.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
And light and he brings home you know, iron.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
Fifths for lack of a better words, and don't feel
like spoiling that was a big thing.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
I mean, the picture is right there, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
Like, so, I I thought that wa Kanda at this
time was a tad bit soft compared to the other
Wakandas that we had seen, Like how'd they just let
somebody come roll it up? And the dictators like, oh okay.
So it reminds me of a New Republic in that way.

(41:09):
So I was kind of like, think the entire it
felt like there was a complete cultural shift in Wakanda
during this time, like popping bottles. Bro, we got everything, Bro,
We're good and so.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
What I did like.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
What I really did like about the episode, though, is
the relationships, just the back and forth, the dialogue, the quick, witty, snappy.
Because I don't generally like said things. I don't sit
down to watch Disney movies. I don't necessarily find them
entertaining that much. This was entertaining. The characters are entertaining.
This iron fist is super.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Badass and entertaining.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
Want more of iron? Can we have this iron Fist
for the FCU?

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Hey, hey, couple of things. You watched Hell Razor Bloodline, right, yes?
Remember the scene where Angelique opened the box and was
introduced to the new order of Pinhea of cinebytes and
Pinhead was like and she looked at him kind of weird,
like what the hell? And he was like, sorry, Hell

(42:20):
is a bit more ordered than it was in your time, Princess.
That kind of reminded me of this Wakanda, Like back then,
what kinda was on the gully stuff?

Speaker 1 (42:28):
I don't care. You can't come home.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Ain't shit sweet? You're outside until you complete the mission.
We don't get a shit. You know this Wakanda is
kind of like, hey man, you look kind of parched.
Would you like in a pair of teef? There's some
drinks in the lobby. Heyway, we got this, we got
this technology, technological foot rubber were chilling man.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
We ain't worried about nothing. This is good times.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
And we get the iron fist, the legendary iron fist,
which goes back to historical Marvel. Right, there's certain characters
that have lineages that have tools that are passed down.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
Not many.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Right, you have your iron fist, you have your ghost Riders,
your Black Panthers, you know what I mean, characters who
have existed, your Moonnights, characters who have existed throughout time,
even Captain America for that matter. That is a mantle
that is pasted. Yes, yes, and this is our iron fist.

(43:23):
And mind you up until Danny Ran, iron fists were
just as blood thirsty and lethal as what condons were.
Iron fists They protected kun Lun and you were going
to die. It doesn't matter who you are, what you're
coming with. Why a iron fist takes out a takes
out a battalion. They were not to be played with.
So seeing this one literally infiltrate Wakanda, defeat Wakanda to

(43:48):
the point of, like, you just go home, dude. You
know what, we don't even feel like handling you. You're
too much. You know, It's it's really beautiful.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Uh. She gave Basha all he could handle, and she
would more detroyed him, which which gives me to the
point I hadn't thought about it till right now, because
you know, this is what I'm gonna call the weak,
the weak times of the wakandas Pasha not the top
like athlete out of this roster of vignettes, you know

(44:18):
what I mean?

Speaker 1 (44:19):
No, pardon me.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Can this iron fist beat Nino Nino?

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Yes, because she has the iron fist.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
Because she has the iron fist. Yeah, okay, Fallo. To
be honest, the ty the Lion gave her all she
can handle.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
The right iron fist can beat Captain America. The right
iron fist can beat iron Man. Iron fist is pretty
powerful in the right hands. There there's some iron fists
that are more skilled than others. Like there's some iron
fists that are damn near cosmic using the fires of
the dragon. So this particular iron didn't really show us

(45:01):
a lot, but it's hard to beat the iron Fist man.
The Iron Fist is like top one martial artists in
Marvel comics usually throughout time. So yeah, unless she's fighting
a straight up black panther, but that would give her
a run for a money. But a war dog that

(45:22):
is more about infiltration and not about direct combat and
direct you know X. You know, I think she would
take on any war dog and it won't even be
a contest.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
Well, I'll tell you what. Out of everything that we saw,
this is one of the ones where I was like, Yeah,
if you wanted to give me a six or seven
episode thing based upon this, you know what, I'd watch that. Damn,
I'm doubt So we'll see what happens. And again, I

(45:53):
haven't heard anything, but there's a reason why this is
in front of us, especially considering they are redoing.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Iron Fist thing. Yeah, you'd like so you know, they're
not giving us an.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
Iron Fish just to redo Iron Fist. They may type,
they may be deepening that lore of iron Fists so
that we as the viewer take more to the new
Iron Fish.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
But it's just for a reminder, A little a little
tap tap that Yeah, Marvel is a huge You get
air drop in any moment of time, and there are
heroes and there are villains. You know what I mean,
Marl's History, like that series I was telling you about
ancient Egypt heroes like Apocalypse and Moonnight fighting, you know

(46:39):
what I'm saying, Like ancient Mefisto and like it's so sick, dude,
Like you could go to any point in history and
then you get into like mister Sinister during like the
the Jack the Ripper days, remutants started popping up like
Bloodborne Marvel. It's so freaking sick. Stuff like this gets

(47:00):
me hyped because I love iron Fest, like Iron ever
since the Matt fraction. David ajab Run. This may be
on our new channel at some point because I will
never shut up about Iron Fist. This character is so
damn interesting to me just throughout time and space, and
anytime we get to see a new Iron Fist, it

(47:21):
just gets me hyped. So I'm happy that we got
to see another hero in history. I think this is
the right one to do, given who would be around,
you know, the Mantles. It was either this or Moonnight,
and I think this is a more interesting pick.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Than Moonnight.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
I and it's also you say, sixteenth seventeenth century, but
I have to be honest, this is one that also
gave me vibes that it could be closer to a
more present or modern time if they wanted it to be,
you know what I mean. So if they wanted to
do something in this vein, it wouldn't be out of

(48:03):
five bounce.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
In mind.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
Absolutely because of where it takes place, because I mean,
stuff still looks like that now into bat you know
what I'm saying, in the higher mountains of Asia. You know,
so it could have been like fifty years ago, twenty
years ago.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
We don't know.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
Boss's cold cold damn what kand dude, what are they
gonna do to fix Wakanda's image?

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Man?

Speaker 3 (48:27):
I'm all about it, you know what I mean. I
got this issue with some of my properties recently, and
it's like.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
What are you doing?

Speaker 3 (48:34):
My heroes?

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Never meet your heroes ever?

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Yeah, you got your check book, bro, No, leave see you.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
Out, Wakanda bring money.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
It was fucking around. You got that vibranium check. But
you gotta remember, like how Gully it was in Black
Panther won like like Clau was like, yeah, nobody enters Wakanda.
People don't even know what's real, and it's only like
knowing around like smugglers and the most seasoned vets, and
even those dudes are like, yeah, if you try to

(49:04):
answer what Kanye, You're just gonna die, you know what
I mean? Like, no pass go, They'll collect two hundred
dollars because wa Kanda doesn't care about our issues and
our plight and our struggles as the human race. They're
just in their little bubble and doing their own little thing.
Might they might as well be on the damn moon
with the inhumans. They don't care.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
You know, hey, man, the kind of galactic squad. I
have questions, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Because I don't have much to say about this episode
because it's not one of my favorites, but I do
like the main character. He does give off a Laddin
vibes where he doesn't. He's a lover not a fighter
type situation, and he's really small, smiling, but he also
did you know, sleep with her and and like use
her to get to his own ends And you know
what I'm saying, that's out.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
Question without even being like I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
And that by the end he just kind of game.
We're like, hey, baby, I'm sorry. I hope there's no
hard feelings. Go back home. I'm gonna stay here where
it's all sweet. But you go, you go ahead on
home walk. You know, we can't give you a ride.
We're just gonna leave you outside wa Kanda. I'm sure
you'll figure it out. You'll figure it out, you know
what I'm saying, see you later. Like what an asshole.
And his boy was so poop put like his boy
was just like, I'm the smartest guy alive and I'm.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
Dog Vineyette in history. It's like, here's your mission.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Dead dead. That dude would have not made it. He wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
He couldn't have faughlt the lion bro the lion would
have ate that dude alive, Doug and the last segment,
the last Panther. This episode is something to damn else.
So it takes place, I want to say, I can't
at the top the out, I can't even tell you
what year this takes place because it jumps around, so

(50:53):
we're met with a senior ward Dog and a future
Prince of Wakanda. I think this is maybe from my understanding,
this is around the nineteen fifties, nineteen forties from my understanding,
because they're active guns, I believe so in this timeframe.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
Revolution and Ethiopia, yes, French revolution, very good, and they
are met by a traveler who is requiring them to
do a very specific task that will pretty much determine
the future of mankind.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
What were your thoughts on this one, dude, This this thing.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
I am not sure what I watched when it was over.
I'm not sure because it did jump around a little bit.
So here's what I'm going to say about this cool story,
freaking cool story. The main characters being Tafar and Kudauda

(51:57):
is the Jedi, the Jedi, the Jedi and what I
just say his name was Tafari is the patent one
out on his first missions taking a look the Prince's son.
That's what the vibes I got out of it.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
And so.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
They had a good relationship. They tried to teach lessons
throughout the course. Those lessons were broke. If we're going
to spoil a bit, which I have questions, so I'm
okay doing the little ax thing that they were after,
which brings us to Black Panther future present past. Not

(52:38):
sure but it bothered me that he was able to
sneak in and like flip through two windows and get
it and then taking it back. It was like, you know,
seven blocks, they had no idea which way to go,
and I'm like, bro, why don't you just flip up
the same like all the people are gone, Man, what
are we doing right now? That little thing not with said.

(53:02):
The rest of it was freaking cool, like the story
of the Panther, how it comes back back to the future,
vees that type of thing.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
I will say upfront that this is my least favorite
of the four only because I think the story is
a bit sporadic in this episode kind of speaking to
like it just bouncing back and forth. Apparently the storyline
is based off a storyline in the comics from the nineties,
you know, full transparency. I'm not the hugest Black Panther head,

(53:31):
so I couldn't tell you, but I did like the
trainee to expert journey that the Little One had. The
Young Prince reminds me of the movie Dread where he
looks at Anderson is like you ready, Yeah, you don't
look ready, But by the end of the episode he's like,

(53:51):
you're ready.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
Yeah, you look ready, let's go.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
You know what I mean, like the kid had to
kind of had a coming of age kind of growth
on the mission, and you know what I mean, like
development on the battlefield and the introduction of this fu
this turbo future panther. That's like, yeah, you need to
because how the story opens, it's important we go over that.
It's that they infiltrate some location that's currently in the

(54:19):
throes of war and they have they've retrieved a Wakandan
acts that apparently is super important can't come home until
you got it type stuff, but they're they're blindsided from
a time traveling future panther in the Turbo future. That's like, yeah,
you really got to put that back like now, because
if you don't put it back, it's gonna cause a

(54:40):
train reaction and it's gonna just cause.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
These super turble beasts that the heroes of Earth.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Can't handle and we're all gonna die. You're you're gonna
damn Wakanda if you don't do it. She doesn't say
the heroes of Earth can't handle it, but that's the
vibe you get. It's the end of the world pretty much.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
And over easy.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
No, Yeah, she really, because I was gonna ask, as
a comic, are these things? Are you aware of what
these little ant creatures are in?

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Like like real? Okay, all right, so here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
When I first saw them, my brain automatically automatically went ooh,
they're doing the brood. This is the brood from X Men.
This is the brood wave.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Like they're gonna come and sting you and you turn
into a brood and they have these impenetrable armors. It
could have been so damn easy just to make it
the brood, dude, it would have been so cool. But
to make it these no name eye lasers spinning things
I've never heard of. It could have been a Chatari,
it could have been the Annihilation Wave with Annihilist. It

(55:46):
could have been any number. But it's like, yeah, I
was like I had to calm myself down, which is
why I didn't like this episode. I was like, Mike,
think about it. How expensive it is is to use
the word brood, how expensive it is to use the
word annihilation wave. Like they probably have hands for that shit.
They can't waste it on eyes of a kind of
episode four.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
But are they wasting it on eyes of what Kanda
Episode four, Mike, this is my question. It may not
be a waste per se, but go on, I'm just I'm.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
Trying to think in the mind of like Marvel, like
Think Tank, you know what I mean. Like, Yeah, we
could have easily made them the Brood, but we kind
of went used the Brood in thirty five years with
the xibitdter right, So we can't use it now because
they may look totally different when we want to use
it for the actual X Men. So I was like,
all right, nameless monsters, whatever, nameless black panther whatever, you

(56:39):
know what I mean, This is not a black panther.
You know, at least that I knew.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
I didn't know.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
I don't, okay, okay, And I don't think this is
like future Surrey or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
But but okay, So we get to the end. Sorry,
I've just got to get there. And Michael B. Jordan
is sitting there staring at the axe in the museum
and that's right before he steals whatever he steals in
the first Black Panther, Right.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Yeah, so is he the Prince? No, this is way
too far back in the future. That's way too in
the future because this is like the French Revolution. It
can't be the same kid.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
Okay, you're right, that can't be the same because Michael B.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
Jordan was in Chicago somewhere, so we don't know who
the kid was. He was some ancient Yeah, he was
some ancient Wakandan.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
That kind of irritates me because it's left so open
ended with just no no, like what is this So okay,
not irritated, but.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
It's it's just annoyances, you know.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
It's like, oh, so, apparently kill Monger is the catalyst
for opening up Wakanda's borders to the world, which better
prepares the world to fight the aliens, so they're not
much of a problem when they finally come whatever God
knows you year. That is so it fet They would
have kept the acts but kinda would have stayed closed.
Killed Margaret would have never happened, and the earth would

(58:05):
have been destroyed because they never had to help with
the Wakandans. That's my idea of like the like big brain,
like the timeline, Like apparently kill Manger was a lynchpin
in human evolution and that moment is what spurred all
the preparations for this Turbo aliens to come and wipe

(58:28):
out the Marvel Universe in one of one hundred different situations. Right,
so we get, like you said, we get the reinfiltration
of the battlefield, and things are a whole lot worse.
There's buildings collapsed, people are dying. So it's like you said,
and you were saying, like, why couldn't you just Spider
Man flip into the building again and just kind of
put it back, like, no, you can't because it's a

(58:48):
different landscape. Everything's falling apart, the geography is different. He
can't just eyeball that from the ground. From the ground,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
I mean realistically, Okay, at least.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Was my recollect that was my rationalizing of it, you
know what I'm saying. So you get like this kind
of like you know, pull of you know, like you
said the Qui gon Jen saying, no, this has to
be the way it has to be. We don't know
who that person is. We're we're condons. We don't listen
to anybody, you know, we go we could go to space.

(59:21):
Who is that that's well, apparently it's an actual wakandon.
We should listen to our children. We should listen to
our children. It was this whole episode. Got to listen
to the Little One because he's a little bit more brash,
a little bit more cocksure. We've got to listen to
our children, the future of Wakandons who are telling us, Yo,

(59:42):
if you're gonna be hardheaded now, you're gonna be hard
to headed forever. It's gonna call to destruction of human race.
Listen to your kids. They are wise, you.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
Know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (59:50):
So heating it reminds me spoilers for spoiling this episode,
this particular episode, does the main does the train die
or does he get saved? He gets saved, right, the
guy who gets because because they make it seem like
he's gonna die because a giant building falls on him,
and then the Little One kind of lifts it off

(01:00:12):
of them, and.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
They yeah, because he had the staff right there, and
I'm like, why don't you just grab the thing and
go ahead, help your boy out? And he's like, no, no,
put it back, and I'm like, well, how are you
gonna lift it up now? But somehow he grabs something
else and lifted it up at the end, and I'm like,
we couldn't did that twenty minutes ago. Save this dude's ribs.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
But again, you know what, it was some vibrainium ribs. Sorry,
just get him back to the house though, give me straight,
it'd be fine. I did like the fund the last
stand of the Dora Madre in the in the final
Black Panther versus the versus the Aliens and kind of
like fat like an Aliens type of siege where it's like, yeah,

(01:00:55):
we can't win this, but we just have to buy time.
We can't break the temporal link between the past and
the future because Daniel jack everything up for some weird
science fiction reason. I did like that fight. I love
last stands. What kind of forever all that, you know
what I'm saying. So, like I say, I'm not I

(01:01:18):
did a screw guy shit kick a wall or something.
So that's all I have to say about this episode.
Not my favorite. I like that it ties to it
kind of met very messyly ties to current day.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
You know, as I watched it, I didn't think it
was as messy it is as it was, But as
we're discussing it now, it was not nearly as tight
of a story as the others and I get it.
They were dealing with a lot, you know, time travel,
this that and the other world that that at the stake.
I get it, but this was not quite as tidy

(01:01:54):
as the other ones were. Now did you mention it?

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
That being said, we have to score this bad Boy
final verdict time, and this is we're not going to
do every single episode. We're scoring it as a collective
as the Eyes of a KNDA experience. So I have
to ask you wash from zero out of five vibranium
or what are you scoring Eyes of Akanda as a whole?

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
You know what?

Speaker 5 (01:02:23):
I feel much more confident my scoring recently is with
all of my recent book reviews that I've been doing,
so in that scale, I have to put this at
a solid.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
Three point five.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
It's a high three point five.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
It's a high. Oh my god, I hate hate you man.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
Can we not do?

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
Oh? Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
I was like, I was gonna say it's five.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
I would say it's a four, but.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
It's literally and I don't want to say it's missing
anything because I like what they did, but I I
don't necessarily need it through line to today. But I
would have liked the through line of the episodes besides
the vibranium, you know what I mean, maybe give me

(01:03:12):
a little bit more of that war dog backlore between
the director's handing down things, whatever that case may be.
But with that not being there, it kind of floats
back and forth and you're like, whoa, what am I doing?

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
So high?

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
Three point five?

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Very good? You stole my score, which is awesome. Three
point five. What the reason I gave it a three
point five is because it starts so strong, right, that
first episode is so powerful, So like mission statement, this
is what we're talking about. We're talking about the war dogs,
We're talking about the the retrieval of Akanda technology because

(01:03:54):
it can't fall into the wrong hands. We're talking about
the history of Waconda pretty much. It sticks to landing
so strong, and to me, that last episode really dropped
the ball. And like you said, closing everything out, I
would have loved a through line connection between all the
episodes where we wrap around the present day and maybe
see Surry and and and uh, like you know Black Panther,

(01:04:20):
you know, report have have the have what's I can't
remember her name and have her have her come back
like from Black Panther one play Marvel Snap I don't play,

(01:04:40):
but yeah, like I would have loved to see a
through line of all that history wrap around to the
present where it's like the key to reporting for duty, sir,
she shows up to report, you know, uh too much
Marvel snap Claw will cause activities and Black Panther one.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
They didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
They chose not to do that. They chose to wrap
it up with kill Monger being like the lynch pin
of the universe, and I just wish they would have
stuck there a little bit longer than a scene, than
a than a then a moment. I would have loved
to get some kind of insight into where the war
Dogs are now, even though we have that, but we

(01:05:19):
kind of don't have that. There's certain weaker episodes, Like
I said, the Battle of Troy episodes not necessarily my favorite.
I do love the Iron Fist episode in that last
episode kind of like I was like, it's a four,
it's a four, maybe you're in a four point five now.
Last episode just dropped it for me.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
I did. It's like, where are we doing?

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Like my expectations were high because I've been building up
throughout that I was mistases were low, then high, then dropped.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
And that's never a good feeling, you know what I mean,
in a series.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
So three point five is a strong B plus almost
So I still I love the art, I love the action, right,
I love the story. I just think they could have
came a little bit harder with it, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
Yeah, yeah, I would agree with all of that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
I think all of those are check marks, and it's
just missing, not necessarily missing, but there's no tip. There's
still no reason of why we're watching it. That makes
it like, oh, well, we were watching it to find
out the story of the war Dogs. If that's the case,
I'm not sure they succeeded in that mission. I know

(01:06:38):
more about them, but I wouldn't say I know about
the war Dogs. I'm left wanting more war Dogs. I
will say that I do plan to revisit Wakanda forever
very soon, just because it gave me what kind of
vibes bro soo. Now, wouldn't month spend some time, even
though they're kind of a holes.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
But now, if this was a series about the history
of black panthers, and except for war Dogs, it was
black panthers throughout time, I think that would have kicked
a whole lot of ass, you know what I mean, Like,
what who was the black panther during these times? Who
was the black panther during the Battle of Troy? Who
was a black panther during you know, the pirate days

(01:07:18):
of the you know, you know BC. But did it
make me like a war Dogs fan? Oh shit, I
need war Dogs merch. No, not really, dude, you know,
it just kind of paints a bigger picture of a
kinda like you said, it made you a less of
a kind of fan because you realize how how big
dicks they are to the earth in the grand scheme

(01:07:39):
of things, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:07:40):
So just in general, they're not that nice.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
It's like, get out.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
And don't come back till you've done it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
That's your lot in life.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
And there's even a scene where you see our main
character in a later episode from the first episode. You
see her back as like a seasoned word dog Intel
general and she's talking to the guy from the Battle
of Troy and she is like, yeah, man, is this
ain't for everybody?

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
Man? You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
He made it back. That's great, And I can see
you're a different person. But if you want it's it's
so dirty. It's like, if you want to leave, you
could leave. We'll find something for you to do.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
Certainly, don't blame you, don't blame me.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
You've been away from home for ten years, sleeping on
mud and shit and now you're on eighteen trillion count
blankets and eating the finest foods. It's gonna be awkward, man,
it's you know what I'm saying. It's like, you know,
you know what, you know what like people who come
back from war say, yeah, the pillows are too soft
to have to sleep on the floor because I just
can't get comfortable. It's like, you know, it's like the

(01:08:50):
It's like Frodo from from Lord of the Rings. It's
like you can't go back to the Shire after you've
been to Mountain Doom, you know what I mean. Art,
So it's like, what kind is not a perfect place?
And I think this this series has a good puts
a good lens on that the brighter the picture of
the darken and negative. You know what I'm saying. Absolutely perfect.

(01:09:15):
And with that we've come to the end of our review.
I think this was a solid review. This was WASH's idea.
I'm all praise to Wash on this one because I
did have thoughts and he said, hey, why don't we
just do with Eyes of a Kanda.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
Shit?

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
You know what I'm saying. It's nice quick. I was like,
you know what, that makes sense because there's there's a
lot to talk about, and I think we had a
really good discussion.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
What do you think? What do you think? Wash?

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
Yeah, man, watch this with your kids. I mean, watch
this if you don't have kids. It's a good two hours.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
You even have to watch it back to back to back.
You can skip a couple of days watch one. But
I definitely think that you're not going to be upset
that you watch them. They're a lot worse out there.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
Trust this is very good watching. It's a quick watch
like watch that. They're about thirty minutes each, bust us
out over a couple of hours. You will not be disappointed.
And then, for nostalgia's sake, watch some Black Panther, watch
some Wakanda. Forever it puts you, It puts you right
in that mood, you know what I'm saying. Perfect any

(01:10:20):
final thoughts, watch before we close this bad boy out.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
That is all for me.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
Eyes of Wakanda. It's surprise, Surprise, Surprise, Hi three and
a half, high and.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
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(01:10:57):
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