MOTN Reviews: Godzilla Minus One (2023)

Wash and Mike G stare down the king of monsters as they review one of the best films of 2023! Is Godzilla Minus One standing tall? Watch and find out!

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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(01:10):
I said, the man who walks with the Force wash.
What's going on? Sir? What up?

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Man? Glad to be here talking another goat this evening
in our motn Goat series. Apparently we have a goat,
a one of one, I mean the one of one
if you want to have a debate about it. So

(01:36):
I am excited to be talking a giant in the industry.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Literal giant, the biggest, the biggest Kaiju, the richest Kaiju.
We're talking, of course, go Jira, but as known by
US plebian Americans, we're calling him god Zilla minus one
twenty twenty three. Didn't this movie win an Oscar bro
or something crazy?

Speaker 2 (02:04):
It was up for many awards. I think it won
of VFX for sure, but I could not. I want
to say, maybe it wasn't. No, it didn't get the
last Picture. It couldn't have been up for Best Picture,
was it? That might have been for debate? Okay, all right, well,

(02:24):
all right.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
This damn movie. Man. We're talking about Godzilla tonight and
MLT and reviews. So what we're gonna do is break
down the film. We're gonna let you know about spoiler
warnings before we go into anything crazy, and then we're
gonna just let loose our entire atomic breath on this
film and let you know whereas it ranked from a
zero to a five and I can Hey, you want
a spoiler. This movie is absolutely insane. It is so good.

(02:52):
It is so good. Before we get into the review itself,
wash is anything you want to say precursor about Goddila
minus one? Just were you? Were you expecting to? I
guess we could get right into initial thoughts is what
I want to talk about, just because my brain is

(03:14):
all over the place. I'm too excited, guys, My apologies.
Initial thoughts. This is a movie that I just dragged
my feet on watching. I don't know why. It's just
one of those I just literally watched it for the
first time like the other day, and I was blown away.
I've never seen it before, but it's just one of
those on the list, you know what I mean? Was
this something that you've seen before? Is this first watching

(03:36):
for you?

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Nope, this was the first watch. I was around for
the hype of it all In twenty twenty three, when
Godzilla took over the interwebs for a week or two
at the very least, and everybody was talking about this movie.
But for as you call us Club Americans, I was like, well, no,

(03:59):
that God's movie.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
You know what it was. It came out around the
exact same time as like Godzilla versus like King Kong
and Godzilla was like Pink Hot Pink and they were
fighting like apes with chainmail and stuff, and it was
just like, Okay, another Godzilla movie, you know what I mean.
It's just like what can they possibly do? So I

(04:23):
totally did not give this the benefit of the doubt.
First my initial thoughts at all, Uh.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
What is your your history with the with the Godzillas
of the universes of the last I don't know. At
this stage, it's almost one hundred years, Mike, We're like
seventy years of Godzilla. No word like a hundred. No,
We're close. We're like, ady, most beautiful man.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
That was a beautiful mind. Levels No, that was that
was absolutely God Like God's Zilla is up there with
Michael Jackson and Frosted Flakes and ThunderCats as like the
things in the house that you absorbed at a very
very very early age. Like you mentioned, this guy's been

(05:13):
around for seventy five plus years. So there's a Godzilla
for everyone, you know what I mean. When I was
a kid, I had the Godzilla toy, but the poppable
thigh leg that you can just break off and you
won't have to pop it back in. My favorite Godzilla
movie was Son of Godzilla, you know what I mean
with Spiega in god Zuki Doug.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
You know, I will say when I think of Godzilla toys,
that is the toy that comes to mind. Obviously, that
is the first one that pops in the mind. Is
the action figure pop on pop off with so uh classic,
probably worth it.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
I could find that thing, which we still had it
probably you know what I mean? Those things might be
cause a cool little mint right about about now. I
love Godzilla with all heart, spirit and soul. I love
all versions of him. I love I love Final Wars,
I love destroy All Monsters. I love the entire pantheon
of Godzilla Toho. You know, Mathra has probably been one

(06:13):
of my favorite creatures on Earth outside of like you
know what I'm saying, Blue Eyes, White Dragon, which is
a callback to Godzilla. Bro, you know what I mean.
Like Godzilla is the first, he is the best, He's
never He's like Ninja Turtles. You know what I'm saying,
Every generation has a Godzilla.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, without a doubt, without a doubt.
And you know, it's it's really funny that every generation
does have a Godzilla because Godzilla, you know, I'm sure
we'll get there at some point, but nuclear war bombs,
blah blah blah. And thus it's like Godzilla is like
the the monster in the closet if you are talking

(06:52):
about allegories or analogies in that aspect. So, yes, there
is a Godzilla for every single generation. And I want
to say that. You know, I've had like five or
six of them, like Original Godzilla versus Mega Godzilla, Godzilla

(07:13):
keeping saying freaking Donkey Kong for a week, I've been
like Godzilla versus Donkey Kog.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
I still got Mario on the brain.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah, and then I saw meglad, not megladon meglon like
the ex that like the Micromorphan Power Rangers one, And
then you want to talk about you know, Godzilla fourteen
is the most recent one that I've seen, which was
not what I was expecting. But I did go to
the theater to see that, So Godzilla did still have

(07:46):
some pulls. So yeah, birth of Casume.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah, the birth of the Kaiju Man. Like Godzilla, it's
just has staying power. I don't know you said from
the original nineteen fifty four where it was where he
was not your friend. This wasn't a spokesperson, He didn't
have his own cartoon. He was a menace and something
to be feared and misunderstood. He was He was the
allegory for the Atomic war. He was an allegory for fat

(08:13):
the fat Man in you know what I'm saying, like
World War two and all of that, and the bombing
of Hiroshima. He was that fort, the unrelenting force that
no one can you can only survive, you can't beat,
you know what I mean. And that type of symbolism
went so beyond Americans that we just saw, hey, cool monster,

(08:34):
that's awesome, and it's became a thing. And then Japanese
are like, no, you know, you don't understand. We're trying
to make a point here, dude.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Our and I, even after watching this film, I still
contend that our version of Godzilla is very much more
a a superhero version of Godzilla, like a lizard Man
or something. It's so interesting and unique to think about
the perspective of the same characters with you know, as

(09:07):
you always say, the backstory's there, you don't have to
go do digging for what this is. And yet we
always managed to get this, this almost characterture of actual
Godzilla over Godzilla.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
It's the craziest juxtaposition of how we see Godzilla and
how Japan sees Godzilla. And it's I don't know where
it comes from because even like in the Total Epic movies,
even when it starts to get goofy, uh you know,
toward the dancing Godzilla, you know what I'm saying, and

(09:46):
and uh Jaggars, you know what I'm saying. You know
who Godzilla reminds me of the most. It's like Freddy Krueger,
you know what I mean, Like that all encompassing icon
that was warned from something extremely creative and dark and
was just not your friend to cartoon character Breakfast Cereal,

(10:08):
you know what I mean, toys on every aisle. You know,
it's like you guys just don't understand the character. But
it's but at this point he is both you can't
deny the goofy Godzilla versus King Kong Oh he's afraid
we have in Godzilla versus this universal force that is
meant to incite terror and thought in consequences of war.

(10:30):
You know. So he's such a like, he's such an
unnecessarily complex character for someone who doesn't talk and has
no you know.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Since this is the review of Godzilla minus one, so
we'll speak more on that film. But I would like
to ask a Godzilla kind of sewer, what do you
think and not the allegory? What is the motivation of
the Godzilla? So yes, all right, all right, take it away.

(11:03):
I wasn't expected to slip. I wasn't expected to fly.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
We've done this. You know. The segus are segueing, Baby,
you're feeling it, dude. A world at war. That is
what godzialss motivation is, dude. He is the consequences of
Japan's decisions on their involvement in World War Two, you
know what I mean? He is the kind of like

(11:29):
the repercussion of their carelessness with their people. They mentioned
it in this movie like this, this movie is very
set in a time in place, you know what I mean,
Like right before Pearl Harbor kind of you know, the
decimation of Japan. You know, the sacrifice of their people
and godzillits just there to the minus one is like

(11:50):
you could get worse than zero, you know what I mean?
After the war, Japan was devastated for decades, right and
then and then God deal, It's just like, no, it
could get worse, you know what I mean. He's the consequence,
the angel of death, you know.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
So he shows up when when when poor decisions have
been made, when war happens. Is is this kind of
He's a consequence, so there's a reaction, and he is
the reaction for a said action, whatever that may be.
I took away one, yes, well I'm asking in the

(12:30):
in the pertheon of Godzilla's that kind of what what
you take from it?

Speaker 1 (12:36):
It's it's the duality of Godzilla, right. It's either he
is a consequence to the to an extreme action and
maybe some carelessness of cultural carelessness, or he is a
universal force here to save us from all of the
worst things in the world. It's like, is the nuclear
bomb our friend and protects us when when things get crazy?

(12:57):
Or is the nuclear bomb of horror that we've created
that we now must face.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
And I want to say, all the friendly versions of
King or King freaking Godzilla All week, Mike, all week,
It's been like this in my head, it just keeps
falling out. I think where we manufacture all of the
good versions of Godzilla, you know what I mean, it's
like Godzilla as the protagonists, and it's like, I don't

(13:23):
think that is his function.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
As can say. I can't say that for certain because
you think about the Toho movies where like you said,
Godzilla starts to get Goofy. Godzilla versus Mathra, Godzilla versus Destroya,
you know what I mean, he is the worse. Godzilla
is always like the better of two evils, right like, Yeah,

(13:51):
Godzilla's here and he's gonna jack stuff up and blow
buildings up. But King Gidra is right over there, and
that is a planet crusher, you know what I mean.
He's not here to protect Ken Grider is here to
destroy all monsters. So it's like we deal with Godzilla
because he is a deterrent to these more bigger horrors.
He is a nuclear deterrent to the monsters that would

(14:14):
just destroy aimlessly. We have to side with Godzilla because
he's the only way we can combat against this apparently
undestructible force. He's not the good guy. He is the
lesser of two evils, because like Godzilla's not coming through
and like a cat walking around buildings, you know what

(14:35):
I mean. And you know, no, for a lack of
a better term, pussy footing around the city. He's just
coming through, you know what I'm saying. So it's like, oh, yeah,
we have to we have to take this to get
you know, Mecha Godzilla out of here? Are space Godzilla
out of here? You know what I mean. So that's
how I've always seen him.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Okay, very good.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
I like it adds personality.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
It adds personality to an otherwise unpersonable creature, you know
what I mean. And I want to ask you watch
when watching this movie? Did you I really I love
the cultural touch to how Japan and parts of Japan
kind of dealt with the world after the war, you
know what I mean, and that just the overall just

(15:25):
suffering minus one, you know what I mean? What did
you take to the human element of this movie? Without
spoiling too much, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
I'm just I'm throwing this in on our MLTN Trauma
series that we've been on fover six. Sorry who knew?
I didn't know either. You see Gouts minus one? Yeah,
I'm like.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
What single tears? Like?

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Damn?

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Could I not be attacked on one of these movies?
Did they sweet ever done?

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah? Man, So I do what I did. Appreciate it.
It does put us into a fairly tight contained city,
which I found different from other Godzilla movies. Because Godzilla
destroys bigger cities. This is a Tokyos on the frame,
but where we're at is a much smaller localized area,

(16:24):
which keeps the story more contained to what you're referring
to the war and the effects like it provides motivation
for not only the main characters, but all the other
characters within the film and what they're doing and what
their reactions are. And it does do some time jumps,
which they do very very well, and it brings everybody up,

(16:49):
you know what I mean, But the motivations don't change.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
So yeah, I love that. Godzilla almost as like a
zombie film to the Japanese, you know what I mean.
It's not Godzilla's more like the external force, but it's
really what how the people deal with it. And one
thing I like is that in most movies, like this
and like shin Godzilla, it's the more serious Godzilla movies.
It's almost like a political like the the ineffectiveness of

(17:13):
political power. It's like, how do we deal with Godzilla economically?
What can we do against this force? And they're like,
well it is It's just it's the middle of World
War two, you know, you know, we don't have a
lot of our forces are dealing with this over here.
We really don't have the resources to fight this seventeen
thousand story kaiju. I guess we got to figure it out.

(17:36):
It's is like very like it makes It's like it's
very sad in a weird way, you know what I mean.
Like Damn, I.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Found it to be like ignorant, you know what I mean,
because Douglas MacArthur gave a warning to tell the Japanese
that they have an underwater sea creature, and so you
hear the transmissions going back and forth. They don't want
to get involved because of Moscow. There's a couple of
things I really like about this movie and specific and

(18:07):
one is the scale of the ocean. Compared to Godzilla,
the ocean everyone is massive valume wise, it's like one
point eight billion valume cubic meters, meaning it is all
around us. It can Godzilla is just a small little

(18:28):
ant in this water, and the best thing we could
do is go, yeah, y'all are on your own. Well,
are there more? Where did it come from? Will it
come to?

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Questions?

Speaker 2 (18:43):
These seems like good follow up questions that we did
not ask because of the war. And it's like, yeah,
we don't want the Soviets. But again, you know, in
the context of this film, I don't know if they
had like footage, film footage. Yeah, they had film footage
other creature, Like, dude, Like, it's like.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
The creature was the creature was known on the world stage, right,
Like you said, there's a whole part where it's just
in English and they're like, well, apparently there's a god
Bobster over there in Japan. But anyway, we're dealing with
this World War two stuff problem.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
It'd be like Godzilla coming up on La like in
your neighborhood which I won't say right now, and going yeah,
and it's like, oh, Godzilla is here, but y'all, y'all
can't help in Wisconsin, No, we no, man, it's it's cold.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
I hate to bring it up, but I can't not
do what Godzilla review without talking about the nineteen ninety
Matthew Broderick Godzilla. You know which I did? US version.
I didn't hate. I was a kid. I loved it.
It was great. But same situation. They're fighting Godzilla with
missiles and it's a US problem. So the US are

(20:00):
dealing with it, and no one else is coming to help,
you know what I mean, not even mentioned except for
the French. But the French were there because they wanted
to get in on that sweet Godzilla da Day, you know,
Jurassic Park stuff. That's sweet sweet Godzilla milk. You know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Corporations, We're gonna make buddy off that Godzilla milk.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
You know the need hashtag Godzilla milk.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
But I detract but from the actual setting of this film,
and it's just so dire and so damn like defeated,
and you know, are in to get into it. I
want to. I know we're kind of cruising here, but
I want to get into spoilers because it's hard to
talk about this movie with I'm talking about the plot
of it. So this is a point where if you've

(20:47):
never seen Godzilla minus one, pause this, go watch it
spoiler alert. This is probably one of the best Godzilla
movies I've ever seen with my two eyes, because it's
trying to tell you something in me and Wash about
to get into it. So do you have any thoughts
before we jump into the plot?

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Here? Wash, No, we can go. We can get in there.
Let's see what happens.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Let's see what damn happens. Man, this movie, it kind
of felt like a bee line to the plot because
I just want to talk about this damp plot. It's
so damn crazy. So it's such a metaphor on a metaphor,
on a metaphor on a metaphor. So this movie is
about a young Japanese fighter pilot who is in the

(21:25):
Kamakazi unit of you know, of the Japanese fighter pilots,
which the idea of Kamakazi unit is so insane just
because that was real, you know what I mean, sacrifice
your life for the cause, you know, the waste, the waste,
not want, not of the you know, of their culture
and why I think God's a looking to kind of
bite them in the butt the honor of death right.

(21:47):
And it's like you said, this takes place like in
nineteen forty two, nineteen.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Forty forty eight. Yeah, somewhere up in there forty five
forty five.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
You know. So they these kids are like on a
beach somewhere there. You know, there's a bunch of there's
like the whole little unit of fighter pilots and Godzilla
just kind of shows up and it's a baby Godzilla.
He's not as big, you know what I mean. And
the guy fails to complete his mission to shoot Godzilla,
which honestly he would have done damn thing. But that's

(22:18):
where this kind of theme that we're going to get
into starts, where he's the only one practically to survive
him and his boy two people, and this baby Godzilla
just wreck shop.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
And he did not do his job first off, which
left him with trauma. So he did not complete his
mission as a Kamakazi pilot and he lied. Then Godzilla
walks up on the property and they're like shoot it.
He's like no, And I'm sitting here, I'm sitting here

(22:55):
watching it, going Yeah, I can't say I blame you. Man.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
That is the most leave ever done. Just leave, Doug,
what do you plan? What do you plan to do?
This thing is already out of control and it's like
and they blamed the hell out of him, right, So
he felt as a Kaba Kazi potot. He felt as
defending his his post and his boys got murked and
he just and that just carried with him through this

(23:24):
entire film. He makes it back home, he gets the
eighteenth degree by the people of his village because it's like, yeah,
we're all gone the air you know, the war air
raids just came through, and yeah, you're your people are gone,
My people are gone, all my kids are going to
show all your fault. How are you here? Aren't you
a Kappa Kazi pilot? So you've defended the country. He's like, oh,

(23:46):
is my mom here?

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Dude?

Speaker 1 (23:47):
I don't know what to tell you. I just would
have got to go home. No, nobody's here, dude. It's
your fault. You did it. And he's like okay, and
he stays there.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
You know what I mean when we talk about localized
places destroyed and he's like, nah, I'm just I'm just gonna.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Say, sit in the rubbid, the in in the in
the you know, in the destruction, right, And he finds
a precocious young woman which just happens to have a
baby with her who just kind of pulls on his coattails.
Can I hey, can I hang up with you in
the rubble? He's like, no, get out of here. Man.

(24:21):
Is that your baby? He's like, Nah, this is not
my baby. What do you just have a raredom baby for?
Everything got destroyed? Stupid? The baby was just sitting there
and the and the mother's dying wish was that I
take it, you know what I mean. So it's like, yeah,
I'm gonna hang up with you now. They just happened
to just chill with him, and he grew into this
weird family over time. Very interesting, but yeah, what do.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Well? You know that again, this whole thing is like
trauma for me. This poor dude. I'm just like, you know,
then you're not like really dealing with them. You're not
telling anyone about a and the whole Kama Kazi pilot thing.
I understand, but Godzilla, I would have been like, yeah,
there was a giant seventeen flip monster that all that

(25:09):
tried to eat us all, and yeah, I may be crazy,
But at the exact same time, this dude's just sitting
on it.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
It's funny. It's like he's telling people casually and no
one cares or don't believe him. He's like, yeah, I
was on Oda Island and there was this myth about
this creature called Godzilla, and he brings up the deep
fish or whatever, and they were like, whatever, man, that's dumb.
You felt your post. It's like that, That's not what
I'm talking about. I'm talking about the giant monster that
wiped out my platoon. You know what I'm saying, Like,

(25:37):
why do we have to keep going there? And I guilt? Right,
I know, man, I know, bro, I'm here. I get it.
So he ends up getting a weird job as like
a as a mind sweeper, yeah, and the Japanese Ocean,
because that's the only job he can get that's paying
any kind of decent money to build his family. So

(26:00):
he befriends this ragtag little group of also war survivors
that are just kind of like, well, this is a
super dangerous job and we might die, but hey, you
know we would. We should have died anyway, So let's
just get this money. And they just start sweeping the
ocean gods and they awaken Godzilla for some reason, and

(26:21):
he's like seven, He's like ten times the size he
was before, and they piss him off and they just
keep And what's crazy is they keep bothering Godzilla right
until Godzilla is just fed up. Right. That's one thing
I want to get to. What are your thoughts on this?

Speaker 2 (26:35):
This This becomes my question in regards to the motivation,
because it's like, are they following Godzilla's Godzilla following radiation?
Are they just happening to run into each other and
they're like fire and Godzilla is like, bro, I'm just
mothered by business. I don't know the questions to these answers,
but I know that when Godzilla hits land, Godzilla seems

(26:58):
to have a fairly direct path till he gets off.
And once he gets off, he's like, all right, I'm done,
Like my work's done here and he leaves.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
So it's like, yeah, bro, Godzilla is like they keep
bombing him, right, They keep like bombing the oceans, and
he keeps getting bigger and bigger, and it's like this
is the answer. And as the years pass, it is
not even just like the mind sweep. It's like nuclear
explosions are going off in the ocean. They must be
testing or something. I forget. Maybe that part of the

(27:30):
plot escaped me. But the young man is doing his job.
He actually builds, He builds rebuilds their home, and you
know him and he's he's he has his little family
and he's just so disconnected from them. He's so he's
like the kid calls him dad, the little baby that
they just happen to have caused him. He's like, how
many STIPs have to tell you're not your dad? And

(27:51):
they're like, bro, you good man, that's your little one. Man.
He's like, I don't.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Want He's not really that well. He's he's having severe
trauma and guilt and a lot of these other things.
But Steve Downey seems to be a damn decent, fine
fellow and human being at the end of the day,
cause you know he does, you know, go out and
get a job, and you know, he tries to live

(28:16):
his life with his family quote unquote, and he doesn't
really start no static about any of it, which is cool.
But at the same time, he also knows about Godzilla
and tries to tell people and they're.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Like, yeah, that's dumb. You know, that doesn't make sense. No,
the American's bombed Oa Island. Why are you lying your
coward in your line, He's just like you got it.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
And I guess that's another big piece is that the
government of Japan wanted to keep the entire thing covered up,
so it's like it's only spoken about through military channels. Meanwhile,
this giant monsters just wrecking shop in different parts. Then
it's like, damn, bro, like speak up. At least you

(29:06):
let someone know. But I guess you can see why
because once he hits land, it doesn't work out so
well where you're going.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
It's funny. There's a scene where they're pulling up on
a ship that's been ravaged by God's delay and they're like, hey, man,
what could it did that? And they're like, man, maybe
a giant shark. I don't know, Like that's not a shark.
There's a shark on Earth that could do that, Bro,
I don't know, some kind of giant monster. And they're
like what it's like, yeah, god Zilla, I saw him once.
They're like, well, sure, this is absolutely brand new stuff.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
You know.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
And scene where God's mhm, I.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Think in regards to his powers, is regeneration new or
is that something that's just always always been around? Because
that scene, that's that scene bro and then the ship,
the naval ship fire and the missiles right after it.
It's like that little clip that goes in the top ten,

(30:06):
Like that's.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
A great all. No, you see Godzilla surfing the water
after the little boat, you know what I'm saying, And
they get a shot off and it blows up like
half his face. They just gotta and he just back
and I'm like, oh, oh, I don't remember Godzilla being
able to do that. And it's like, I think I
think it was like the original nineteen fifty four Godzilla

(30:27):
can reach out, right, I think I could be wrong,
but that's not a power he normally has. He's usually
just indestructible, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
I was that was sitting there. As soon as that happened.
I was like, ah, this is gonna this is rough.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Just I can't okay, just add something to Godzilla. And
I even said, I was like, they just make Godzilla
Wolverine powers. How do you fight this thing? Dude? How
do you defeat this problem?

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Yeah? Note to their plan, which I'm not sure worked
that you know ultimately how their plan had worked, But
good job. I'm coming up with the plan because I
wasn't coming up with the plan. I was like, I
have no idea what We just hope he goes away.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
They were like, no, he probably has claimed Japad as
his territory, so he's probably just gonna show up every
like ten days or something, just to keep things honest,
you know what I mean. And they kind of try
to track Godzilla, but you know, it's like he's giving
off such crazy radiation that they can't really get too
close to him. And then probably my favorite seed of

(31:28):
the movie is when he makes landfall and he just starts,
like you said, like he he has a weird motivation
to destroy civilization, you know what I'm saying, Like, like
you said, once he makes once he comfortably glasses the city,
he just like, all right, I'm just gonna head back
out and see how things go. I'll be back later.
Don't build anything. Don't you dare build anything. I'm gonna

(31:52):
just head back out. And it's so beautiful and so
just sad because there's the scene where she pushes about
the way she's caught in the in the sonic boom,
the fallout of his and it's like always the major
part is it's I think Godzilla twenty fourteen was the

(32:13):
first to do it where it made the atomic breath
a moment, you know what I mean. Before Godzilla would
just do it cool. But now the amp up to
the atomic breath is the probably the coolest part of
any Godzilla movie. Where you see the tail kind of
ear ear ear ear ear, or he just he lets
it go and it's just like, yeah, you can't win.

(32:35):
There's no winning against that that stuff, you know, no, no, no, And.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
When she pushed him out the way, like my mouth
was floor and I was like, I didn't see that coming.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Well minus one, huh Okay, Well.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
I was like, bro, you're you're in, You're in the wall.
You didn't you Also, while they're running, it's like no
one went to the sides, like if you're watching the film,
because they did do some classic like classic Hollywood like

(33:12):
nineteen fifties like type of looks in those older scenes
for the fifties, and it's like everyone was running and
it looked like they were running on a set, you
know what I mean, But no one went that way.
And I was like, just the way it was filmed,
I figure, because it's so obvious. Japan obviously did that

(33:32):
like not Japan, pardon me, the director of Japan. They obviously, yeah,
they obviously did that as a throwback to to like
that that era.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah, thank you. You know it's like harror movie babysitter
logic where you both up, you bolt up the stairs
rather than headed for the front door. You know what
I mean. It's it's scream one. You know what I'm saying.
It's like, now we're just gonna run into the straight
line because Godzilla's walking into straight line, so everybody as
will walk running the same line. He can't catch us, right, No,

(34:09):
he's going to get you.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Man.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
It's like this guy's torment never stopped this entire movie
and it was actively ruining any any chance for happiness
for him. Where she's like, what is your problem? Like
why can't we just be He's like, I'm still fighting
the war. I never got to fight in the war,
So the war continues with me all some batman stuff,
like in his head, he's still reliving all of that

(34:36):
over and over and he can't find joy in any
of it. Because my man is working at nine to five, bro,
he's going, he's clocking in and out. He comes home
to a to a loveless like, I don't know what
they were relationship was. They never really showed any compassion
to each other.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Roommates, bro they were, they were routmates. It's like if
if some chick comes drops off, you know, tomorrow little
Mike's door, Hey my I'm gonna stay here for a while,
and you're like, oh, all right, that's not my kid,
and it's my sister's kid. I'm just watching them. Oh
all right. Eight months later you're like, you need eggs. Yeah,

(35:19):
he gets a milk too, and he's going he leaves
the door and he's just like he just looks confused
every time he walks out. He's like, what is happening?
But the guy, I kind of feel bad for him,
And that's just part of the trauma that he's going through,

(35:41):
is that you can He's like, this is what I
should be doing, but I can't actually do this because
I'm not Mike did it again? Click, This is what
I should be doing, but but I I'm not doing it.
Even though like I'm kind of doing it, I won't

(36:02):
acknowledge it. Dude was in a very weird place for
this in his life, and honestly, it made the movie
weirdly emotional, Like I should not have found myself getting
weirdly emotional watching Godzilla, but nah, I was getting weirdly
emotion when I was watching Godzilla, and I'm like, damn,

(36:24):
all right.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
I'm not gonna hold you. I've been emotionally compromised this year,
you know what I'm saying. Maybe I'm a little touchy,
but by the end of this film, I was like,
this one is this salty discharge coming from my eyes? Doug?
Why am I crying in a Godzilla movie? Because they
make you care about the people so much, and in
these movies, the hardest thing to do is make you

(36:46):
care about the humans, because all we want to do
is watch Godzilla do Godzilla stuff, and the humans are
always in the way, you know what I'm saying. And
every sign go Godzilla movie. You don't want to see
the Mathra Twins singing Mathu Daya. You don't want you
just want to see the monsters do monster stuff. But
this movie paints this guy as someone who has this

(37:07):
eternal stitch that he cannot scratch because he failed to act,
you know what I mean, for his country, and he
feels like he just he's incomplete. No matter what he does,
he's incomplete. And this God's olla threat is the is
the one way he can find solace. And they you
know what I'm saying, and kind of close the loop

(37:27):
on his life, you know what I mean, And especially
when they're, like you said, erecting the plan. His idea
was this, I'm gonna finally, Kamakazi, I'm gonna do it.
We're gonna get We're gonna get it done now. Like
you're insane, bro, you have something to live for, you
know what I mean. That baby needs a father. I
don't care. This is what I need to do.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
He was like selfishly, and he was very much like
that the entire film, Like you know what I mean.
He didn't probably change off of that until the very
end of the film, which in itself was was fantastic.
I fully didn't expect it. I was shocked. I was overjoyed.
I was like, this is amazing. And as you said,
I cared about these characters more than I probably thought

(38:07):
I actually did. While I was watching the movie, when
that scene hit, I was like, oh damn, that that's cool. Freeing,
that's cool. Yeah, Like you know, our movies don't necessarily
in that way all the time. So we're so satisfying,
I guess is what I would say, like satisfying. It

(38:31):
was a satisfying ending to the movie. Satisfying movie all around.
But his guilt is what makes the ending so satisfying.
And what I imagine is what brought the buzz around
this movie, you know what I mean. I can't imagine
this movie was everywhere just because it was Godzilla. People

(38:52):
walked out of this thing going do you feel something?

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Yeah, talk, I get to confess to you how I
feel now before I don't have a chance. Doug Welly,
Scott Tila making me feel this way, you know, in
his growth in the movie is something to behold because
it's not growth from him self actualizing. Its growth from
his friends and his family telling him like, man, you

(39:20):
got to move on. You have to live, bro, you
know what I mean, Like like do you want you
have a death wish? And he just kind of like, man,
you drunk, bro, Like he didn't even answer the question.
It's like his boy was like, you say, have a
death wesh. He's kind of like, we'll see Doug, and
it's like I want to talk about the goat his
name was like Thomas. His name was like Toma. I
don't want to say Toma Gatchi. What's the name of

(39:41):
the dude he had to find and he said like
mad letters to because he was the only guy.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Who can I'm not gonna have Yeah, I'm not gonna
have it. Know.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
There was like Tabayaki or something, And then finally find Tabayaki.
Tabiyaki's like, You're like, man, you're garbage, dude, what are
you doing stut up like like like, I don't I
would have worked with any of this. And you have
to convince Tabayaki because he's the only one that could
do it. He's the one that actually gives them a
new lease all of life. Bro. You're like, you know, Ben,
you got to be there for your people, man, And

(40:11):
he gave up the option to do it, you know
what I mean. And at the end of the day,
he chose life versus death, you know what I mean.
And it's like this whole movie is about the conservation
of life that they keep bringing it up at You know,
during this war, we we did our we did our
countrymen horribly. During this war. We acted out of our

(40:31):
own interest. You know, we were war rationing and people
died of starvation and hunger. You know what I mean.
We created the Kamakazi system where we were just sacrificing,
throwing bodies at the war to win. And what did
we get from it? Nothing? You know what I mean?
We lost. We didn't gain anything from this war. We

(40:51):
all we only lost. We're at zero, you know what
I mean? And Godzilla is that minus one. It's the negative.
Godzilla makes them in the negative like even think things
could get worse, Godzilla makes it like what else can happen?
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Do you know is that where the minus one comes from?

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Yep? Because bottom Godzilla is minus one?

Speaker 2 (41:17):
And so we do. They announced the new one. What's
that one? They we talked about it on Shout Out
m OT and Friday Night. We talked about it last Friday.
But what's this one?

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Was like minus zero or something.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Like that, you know what I mean. Also, when we
talk about this Godzilla is something that we didn't talk about.
What did you think about the look of this Godzilla
as compared to some of the other the Rocky Stone
god like it was almost like a natural a natural

(41:54):
organic thing which from the ocean, which I guess makes sense.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
He reminds he remind like the og Godzilla, the man
in the suit. He wasn't so like unnatural, you know
what I mean? Where he has the twenty sixteen Godzilla
is unreal. It has a little little bitty head, giant body,
kind of thick legs. You know, it looks like Godzilla,
but it's like an exaggerated version of it. This Godzilla

(42:20):
looked like he was straight from nineteen fifty four.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Man.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
It was like a dude in a suit, but it
was actual eyes. Godzilla had these big human eyes and everything,
very very emotive eyes. You know what I'm saying. He
looked like the thing from Fantastic four, but evil. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
The eyes moved more than the rest of the entire
body moved, do you know what I mean? When they
got that first eye close up, you really had that
Jurassic Park feel where you're like, it's looking at me
and that's not good.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
You know what he looked like To me? He gave
me like Rotwiler vibes, you know what I mean. He
looked like a Rottwiler. I give you where that eyes
could be beautiful, but if a rock roller is looking
at you a certain way. It's terrifying, where in certain
moments his eyes softened in certain scenes, you know what
I mean, Like he's like when he's done nuke in

(43:13):
the city, he softens a little bit and just gets
this interested and walks away. It's like that's very animal like,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Also, they were wrecking shop on him in the ocean
and he was trying to mind his business and then
they hit him and and he like he like looked
and he's like, bro, bro, Like, you know, dude, do

(43:40):
we do it? So he is intelligent, you know what
I mean. So that's that's pretty cool. So all right,
well cool, But we didn't get a chance to talk
about that. I found myself wondering with Godzilla. And I
don't know if this is on the slide or not,
but as we were watching this iteration of Godzilla, can

(44:01):
only nuclear things defeat Godzilla? Who's the nuclear creature from
James Gunn's comic series that's on HBO, The Nuclear Guy.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
A nuclear atomic skull?

Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yes, can atomic skull beat Godzilla?

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Depends on the Godzilla some Godzilla's feed off nuclear power,
So nuking him only causes more problems. Some Godzilla's react
to it. There's the the classic Godzilla weapon, which is
like the man it's like called the Hydrogen Destroyer or
something like that is what they used in Godzilla of
nineteen fifty four to defeat him. It's called and they

(44:43):
use it again. And the remake of Godzilla, King of
King of Monsters, the Garth Edwards Vehicle where they brought
him back in that twenty twenty one or something like that,
they used the hydrogen Destroyer or something on Godzilla. Soa
Godzilla dies because he doesn't always die Godzilla. Normally, Godzilla's

(45:06):
living by Godzilla, he just walks back into the ocean, right,
and that's god goes to go lay down because he's
had a long day. Big boy has a big day.
But when it can actually kill him, it's usually by
like some reverse nuclear cleansing or some kind of natural
hydrogen kind of solution like in this. Even in this movie,

(45:26):
I thought the means they destroyed him was kind of
cheap because it's like, oh, let's just do Jaws. Let's
put a bomb in his mouth and blow it up,
and he's got to be soft from the inside, right,
So okay, that'll work, and it's like, I don't know, well,
yes and no, because I did.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Like the science that they did when they plunged them
down to use the pressure, Like that actually made a
ton of sense just from a science point of view,
because you know, you you need to adjust for pressure
when you're coming up or your lungs explode and you die.
So when he came up another classic shot. There's so

(46:03):
many classic shots of this godzilla when like his skin
is just half rippled just because the pressure has been
literally ripped him trying to rip him apart. Yeah, he
was kind of vulnerable at that stage. And for me,
I think that's what really made the actual ending of
that work is I was like, I like the science

(46:26):
behind it. I don't know if you could have pulled
it off against like a twenty seven story creature, but
assuming you could.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Yeah, But technically they didn't pull it off because he
was still alive and very pissed off. Yeah, it was
about to if it wasn't for the plucky hero. He
was about to do an atomic breath on the whole
fleet and all of our heroes would have just ate crappy.
He was just when it kept doing it so technically
it didn't even work. Yeah, I mean it put him.

(46:57):
But this god did is also Wolverine. So how do
you defeat a monster that can just auto heel you
know what I mean? You blow his head up apparently,
But even at the end of this film they do
show you he starts to regenerate. You start, you start
seeing that regeneration, and it's like Deadpool, he just needs
a little bit in a little while to get better.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Amy got me wondering this fascinating question about what if
once every generation like you knew when Godzilla was popping up,
you know what I mean, Like Godzilla's gone now, but
Godzilla is regenerating and Godzilla will be back. How does
that change? Like DAYD Daylight?

Speaker 1 (47:39):
Hey watch, what if I told you that every eight
years we elect a new president and we don't know
what he's gonna do. Yeah, well, we don't know how
he's gonna I'm just saying every eight years, we don't
know what. We could get Happy Protector Godzilla, or we
could get I Am Alpha, the Omega, I am Story

(48:00):
of Worlds, you know what I'm saying. So it's like Homelander,
I Am Hope I'm gonna get Superman. Are we gonna
get Homelander? Know when he wakes up depends on what
kind of movie he's in, you know what I mean.
So I love the idea of like in Japan and
in the Earth, it's like, okay, Kaiju's are just the thing.
That's one thing I do like about the Garth Edwards,

(48:20):
twenty seventeen. It is that we go into the super
future where they're kind of like Kaiju proof the world. Oh,
Godzilla siding, Let's drop the city seven miles below ground
so nobody gets killed by Godzilla? Does this thing? You know,
it's all very technical, but this is nineteen forty nine
or something like. No, there's no true way to defeat

(48:42):
this an unnatural means, and even in the use of science,
they still failed because this thing is otherworldly. This thing
is beyond our scope of defense, you know what I mean.
So it's like and even in victory at the very
end of the movie, she says, is your war finally over?
The ude she has the six to god I know,
you know what I'm saying. He needs to say, Yeah,

(49:04):
I'm cool. You know what I'm saying. I did it
not knowing that Godzilla is brewing so that in nineteen
sixty nine he's back and ready to you know, the disco.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
I love the ending like regeneration. I did again. I
didn't see it fine, and the guy was like, uh,
that's that's that's not what you're hoping for. As a
final result is oh, we'll get another one.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Too. But if every part regenerates a new Godzilla, you know,
I Lobo rules, you know, I'd.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
Like to see this world with the other monsters in it.
As we talk about Low zero, I would like about that. Yeah,
I'd like to.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
I want to talk about that when we get into
our final verdict. There's one thing I want to talk about.
I'm firm believer that Batman is way more interesting by
himself than he is with Robin. I don't like the Robins.
I don't like all I don't like the Robbins. I
think they kind of take away from the spirit of Batman.
It's a hot take these people who love Robin and

(50:15):
night Wing and Damian Wayne and all that stuff. I
hate the Robins. I think Batman's way more interesting as
the brooding solo act, you know, the bad of Gotham,
whereas with Godzilla. I kind of feel the same way. Whereas,
like Godzilla is so interesting by himself as a global threat,
when you add god Zuki and you add Mathra and

(50:35):
Rodin and you know what I'm saying, it's like it
starts to kind of crowd the pool a little bit.
For me, do you feel differently than that? Are? It
sounds like you do.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
I do because of the scale that they were able
to achieve with this film, the small localized threat with
the giant monster in an ocean that looks even bigger,
you know what I mean, It really lends itself to

(51:06):
there could be more or what else is out there? Now?
How does that play in you know, the world of
land across like the world I don't know ultimately you
know is does Godzilla? Because Godzilla on his own, I

(51:27):
mean as a character study in something like this, yes,
as like a almost as you said, like a zombie
flick kind of how you know, it becomes a struggle
of how the people survive the zombie apocalypse. So it's
the people versus Godzilla where you won't need it.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
But he's a bit linear.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
In his motivations. For me, Thus, if there were and
I don't know, if he's hero or not. I just
think maybe a world of monsters because he is the
number one, you know what I mean. You don't become
number one just by being like.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
The only one, yeah right?

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Or untested, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Like it's funny. There's a throwaway line in this movie
that makes you think and they say, well, how are
you gonna lure him in? Oh? Yeah, We've recorded Godzilla's
voice and we're just gonna just shoot that in the
direction we want him to go because he may feel
that it is a rival combatant and I'm like, what

(52:38):
are we talking about here? It's like it makes you think,
like Godzilla invites challenge because he is the King of
all monsters, right, So this movie kind of hints that
maybe Godzilla would react to another threat that could challenge
his reign. And that's where a lot of the most
recent Garth Edwards like King of Monsters theme was Godzna

(53:00):
only wakes up when someone's gonna disturb the apple cart.
Otherwise he's sleep and when when a Rodin shows up,
when a Mathra shows up, when a King Kong shows
up to threaten his kingdom, that's when Godzilla wakes up
and he becomes the protector. But my question to you
is what you said. You mentioned that he has a
pretty thin motivation. What is Godzilla's motivation in this film

(53:26):
at the end of all things, I.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
Don't I am not completely sure because you you you
say that the nuclear testing woke him up, right, and
maybe possibly, I don't know, he could have just been
cruising the ocean's a big spot and then all of
a sudden was like, oh, what's this show? Just like

(53:54):
you know what I mean, And now I'm gonna go
this way. Because he's a big creature, so he doesn't
turned very quickly. You need the a parent. He swims well.
But so I'm not quite sure what his motivation was.
I would say, as we like to talk about a
world threat, if you told me that Godzilla is the.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
What's the thing?

Speaker 2 (54:21):
The the the I can never think of words when
I'm on stream. The familiar of Earth, right, Yeah, Godzilla
the guardian of Earth and something comes from Mars or
each galaxy or each planet has their own and they

(54:41):
come to take on Godzilla. But once a generation it
wrecks all of shop. In some type of Mortal Kombat series,
I could get behind that man.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
Yeah, but then, but then then you start veering from
the Japanese Godzilla into the American Godzilla because I want
to keep you.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
I want to keep out this Godzilla though, the Japanese Godzilla,
not the the crazy because this Godzilla is enough.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
It starts to lose that when he starts protecting and
not like like punishing, because this is not a protector.
This is.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Not protecting you know, space, He could care less about Earth.
It's that this other thing has shown up as an
entity to challenge him. So that's where I find it interesting.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
So I don't know, it's a very it's a very
no matter who wins, we lose type scenario, you know
what I mean. Where this Godzilla, like you said, I
think it's interesting that he has no scruples on the
human race or protecting Mother Nature or whatever. He's just like, hey,
you're big, and you're you're sitting in my spot. I
need you to move. I'm not gonna move, okay, We're

(56:00):
gonna move Heaven and Earth to make you move. And
I kind of like that because it still gives him
that unpredictability versus my you know, my neighbor Toulturo. It's
just Godzilla you know, No, you know, he needs to
be that wildcard force of nature. And as we're talking
about it, I'm kind of shifting my seat when it
comes to his motivation. I'm like, he's more of a

(56:21):
force of nature than anything else, you know what I mean,
Like like a consequence. I'm gonna stay with a consequence
to action. But he comes like a storm, you know
what I mean, Like he hits land, he rec shopped
like a hurricane, and he leaves, and now you have
to wait for the next storm, you know what I mean.
It's like there's nothing you could do about it because

(56:42):
you can't stop the rain. You can't stop the rain.
You know, you can't do it. He's just gonna come through.
He's gonna, like you said, Rex shop, you know, and
then he's out. And then what sucks is is like
but there's one part we like they're trying to pick
up Godzilla pieces to kind of analyze it, but it's
just way radioactive. We can we can learn from this thing.

(57:04):
It sucks. We could even learn from this thing. It
just shows up nothing.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
But where did it come from?

Speaker 1 (57:12):
I don't know. I don't know where's he going? I
don't know. You can't follow him. We're all gonna die
if you follow him. And it's like what caused him
to go on land? Was it us bothering him? And
he's just going back to where we came from, because
because why did he attack the the island? Why did
you attack Oda Island? You know what I mean? Because

(57:33):
I think it was like a feeding ground, right.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
I think much like any animal, once you irritated, it
is going remember its will on you until you are gone.
And it look, it would have destroyed the entire place
had they not done what they did, you know what
I mean? And what as they said, it's probably going

(57:56):
to come back. It's only a matter of time until
it runs into token you. It's almost just like, well,
if we had pointed it that way, it'd be somebody
else's problem, but it's not so had they not done anything, Yes,
I truly believe Godzilla would have just wrecked everything till
it was gone and then like, oh you're gone, all right,

(58:18):
I'll go much like a zombie. I can't believe I'm
going to get into this zombie Godzilla theory, Like that's
that's wild. I've never considered it. But they are very
similar in their usage.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
He's very much like a Romero idea where it's like
he's not the threat, it's us, right, We're the aggravators.
How do we deal with this? How do we not
deal with this? You know what I mean? Like what
is the aftermath of it? He just kind of you
can airdrop zombies in this exact same you can make
this train to Busan, but a movie we have to
do at some point and it's the same situation. How

(58:54):
do you survive? Because the female protagonist, she was just
like my parents told me to So I'm going to survive.
That's all I know how to do, you know what
I mean, That's all I have to do. And it's
just about them surviving the situation because there's no avoiding it, right,
there's no running from it.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
No, I guess I kept telling him, like why are
you still here? I would have left, take a holiday,
like go somewhere, But no, man, I don't think a
lot of folks are traveling in planes. And the World
War Two, I don't think there wasn't a spirit.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
There wasn't a spirit. These two bombers flying right past
you headed to the battlefield air raids, probably getting blown
out of the Sky. I would take the bus. Bro.
You know what I'm saying, Maybe the safest way to
travel by ass going to d C from where Tokyo

(59:48):
where oh were headed to Berlin. I don't think you should. Man,
where you headed to Osaka? You know that there's a
Godzilla now that way? Man, you know work, gotta go
for work. Let's score this bad boy from a zero
out of five god Zookies. What are you gonna score

(01:00:13):
Godzilla minus one? That's tough.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
I hadn't considered it till right now this second. As
far as the score goes, I'm going to give Godzilla
minus one a four point three four point three, four
point three and the other The only reasons it's getting

(01:00:41):
a four point three A it is. It is a excellent,
excellent film. The usage of Godzilla is excellent. The the
land aspect of Godzilla, they lose it just a wee
bit because he just went on that one list your pass.
Just the way everything was shot, the clips, it's not

(01:01:04):
their fault. It's really not their fault. It's just what
they chose to do. But it did take away from
the spectacle for me that was Godzilla. If you had
Godzilla like turning throwing his tail everywhere, which they did
one and just had massacred. It's probably a five for me,

(01:01:29):
so it's a four point three. It's literally and then
won for VFX. So again I'm not I'm literally picking hairs.
But it's a solid, solid, solid movie, solid.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
Movie, very good. I'm kind of right there with you.
One thing I want to mention that we didn't mention
before I go into my verdict. It's the effing score.
The music in the sound of this movie is absolutely
chef's kiss. There's something about that Godzilla that og Japanese bound,

(01:02:03):
brown barwn Brown, Brown Bound. It's so good, you know
what I mean. It's just I literally just sat and
listened to the soundtrack when the movie ended, I was like,
this is so god it this this is the most goaded.
I want to put a beat behind it and wrap
off of it, you know, saying Godzilla. You know, it's
just so good. The sound effects his roar is always

(01:02:25):
just the best, one of the most iconic noises and
film history. We all have done it, you know what
I mean, We've all done it. Don't act like you
don't act like you have a pocket Godzilla in there somewhere.
That you do to kind of go with your verdict.
I'm just gonna say, I'm gonna give it a solid four.

(01:02:47):
I'm gonna have a solid four out of five. You
may ask, Mike, you've been blowing about this movie, why
why not a perfect score, because there's little things about
it that just kind kind of keeps it from perfection.
From mt and perfection. One is the you say that

(01:03:08):
there's an excellent use of Godzilla in this film. I
feel like we could have had just a tad bit more,
you know what I mean. I think we we had
two major technically three major Godzilla set pieces the very
beginning of the movie where you saw him he was
barely lit, the the boat, the boat scene and really

(01:03:29):
just like the the landfall, you know what I mean,
in the in the end of the film. Let's say four,
you know what I mean for a Godzilla movie, these
are the four times we saw him. And mind you,
it's not their fault because it's hard because you have
to balance. We wouldn't have cared about the humans as
much if Godzilla was there all the time, you know
what I mean, because we just would have like to
move out the way. We want more Godzilla so it's

(01:03:50):
it's a it's a dangerous dance to try to balance
plot versus fun sort of speak. I think that Godzilla
was not necessarily an antagonist, but he there was no
antagonists in this film. It's just like sadness in Survivor's

(01:04:12):
Guilt was the antagonists of this film, because God's willa
in trauma, built in trauma and just despair, you know
what I mean. It's just like the true antagonists of
this film, where Godzilla was more like a thing that
was there that we had to avoid our confront, you

(01:04:33):
know what I mean. So he kind of felt, like
you said, his motivations were kind of thin, you know
what I mean, Like he had no like, I mean,
what urgency he is going to have you right? Other
than being that, in my eyes, kind of punishing force,
you know what I'm saying, the angel of death, you know?

(01:04:53):
Other than that, what is he there for? And it's
kind of teaching a less and that we would as
we just don't hear because we weren't there, you know
what I mean. Our you know, Japan is still reeling
from culturally from that event, you know what I mean.
So he's the metaphor of that and in Japanese hands,
you can't really get much better than that. So I

(01:05:16):
think if we had a little bit more Godzilla, I
think if he was a bit more involved in the story.
There's the plot of it, you know what I mean,
because the plot is all human and it's not really Godzilla.
It's like, like you said, there's no real dive into him.
But I guess there's a mystery to that. I don't
know very I'm feeling very conflicted because it's like I

(01:05:36):
want I want all my groceries and went bag, but
I don't want it to be heavy. It's kind of
how I'm feeling about this movie, you know what I mean,
Like I want them to talk about Godzilla, but he's
a mysterious creature. They're not supposed to know about him.
It's weird.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
That leads to a four.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
That's a four, right, right, four, It's a four. It's
like I'm left wanting. I guess it's the idea. I'm
left wanting just a little bit more. And that's a point.
And that's one single point.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
With that, we have covered Godzilla minus one and clapped
to this film. This is a breath of fresh air.
Wouldn't you say it's one of those films that's a
breath of fresh air.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
I wasn't expecting what I got, that is for certain.
So I will be there for Godzilla minus zero whatever
that may be, nothing good. I imagine this is like.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
A tonal reset of the entire character. You know, no
more goofy stuff, no more Godzilla is like in you know,
Baja Blast green or Cotton Candy pink or whatever they
were doing with them. Nah, this is your dad, this
is your granddad's Godzilla, and he's coming to rec shop
and this is the precedent we're sensing setting now. So

(01:06:54):
with that, any final thoughts watched before we close.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
This bad Boy out, No watch it if you haven't
seen it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
We left a lot out, you know, even when we
were talking about this, we kind of hit the major points,
but there's still a lot to watch here, and it's
just a spectacle to see. I just wish I would
have saw this in theaters, you know what I mean.
But oh, you know, also we didn't talk about it.
The black and white version of this I heard is amazing.
Man black and white version that I don't want to watch.

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