MOTN Reviews: Romero Double Feature - Dawn of the Dead (1978) & Day of the Dead (1985)

Wash and Mike G start the spooky season off right with this George A. Romero Double Feature! Which horror classic did we love more? Watch and find out!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to the Nerdiverse.

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(00:28):
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Speaker 1 (00:37):
The very first.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
But welcome to the Masters of the Nerdiverse.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Welcome back Nerdiverse, or another episode of MTM Reviews where
we always have such sights to show you. This infection
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(01:10):
where podcasts are shown. I'm, of course master of the
nerdi Verse, Mike g and back with me is my
also undead Master of the Nerdiverse. The Jedi counselor himself. Wash,
what's going on, sir?

Speaker 3 (01:24):
What is up? Happy to be here? We are talking goats.
We're talking goats today, you know what I mean. It's
a goat type of day. It's one of those days
you wake up and you're like, goat.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Goat, it's the goat like that one mean the goat.
This is our oat. This is our Halloween special. So
what did we celebrate around here? Is Halloween? Dude? We
go We go big every single year for Halloween. So
for the month of October, all MLTN content will be
halloween ish on one way or another, actually building up

(02:06):
to our our Halloween spectacular Friday night, October thirty, first
Halloween Night. I might dress up, I know, washes down
to dress up. You know what I'm saying, We're gonna
We're gonna have a spectacular time.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
I have no promises on any of that, as I
am a day by day type of individual, but I
definitely think you need to get with it. What is
it some some count chocula is that what they do
is that the Halloween version, you know what I mean? Like,
that's that's a good way to go. I think you
should have a bowl of that just sitting next to you.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Dude, I got some uh, I got some Witches brew
Kit cats. Bro, They're like you ever had a Witches
brew Kit cat?

Speaker 3 (02:47):
I saw them. I have not had it. I have
not had it.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, all right, listen to your boy, Mike, g get
you some. Get you a bag of Witch's brew kitkats
are like marshmallow flavor. It's year. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
No, I would have to check that out on your
recommendation seasonal. Is it a coat?

Speaker 1 (03:08):
It is a goat, just like these films here. So
this was WASH's idea, actually that we do a double feature,
which is rare in the moltn verse outside of our
annual random select. So this isn't necessarily hitting these two
goats together because there's no need to pit these two,
you know, these two bad bitches against each other, you

(03:30):
know what I mean, These are two staples of the industry.
We are, of course, talking about George Romero's own Dawn
of the Dead in Day of the Dead. Are you
excited to talk about these two films?

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Wash? Yeah, man, you know, I am stoked. They are
historic in nature, so it should be a riveting type
of conversation. And you know, zombies. For some reason, zombies
just scratched that itch for me. So I don't know
if it's the mass hysteria, the hopelessness, the zombies. I

(04:05):
have no idea what it is. But yeah, I'm excited
to be here.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
And yeah, go same here. Let's talk about some zombies
with an X bro. We're talking about zombies, bro, you
know what I mean, like the ones in Great Britain
and the I wanted to talk about UK zombies. You
know what I'm saying, like twenty eight days later, joints
that run quick, not these slow bastards. Dig. Before we

(04:29):
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just want to give those quick plugs without further ado,
let's talk some zombies. But before we talk zombies, I

(04:52):
want to take a second to just give homage and
just give props to the history of George Ramiro. This
man was a pioneer on a shoestring budget. Do you
know anything about this man or his history.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
I know about his filmography the man himself, not as much.
I know about his talents behind the camera and for
story storymaking. But no, I do not know a biography
of mister Romero.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Goat, Yeah, they'll hit it one more time before I
get started. Goat there you go. We need that sound. Cleat, baby, gout.
This guy is such like Salts of the Earth directors.
He's he's like reminds me of like, you know, John
Carpenter and like even like a just really salted, like

(05:44):
really just I have a camera, I got buddies, we
got beers. Let's just make a movie, dude, you know
what I mean. One story I'll love about him when
he was filming Night of the Living Dead and we'll
talk about we can't not talk about nights. So that's
coming up? Is he They filmed it on a shoestring budget,
literally threw it in the trunk of a car, through
the live only version of it in the trunk of

(06:06):
a car, and drove it to New York to play
at some little hole in the wall theater the night
and it was crazy. Is that the same night they
got there with the Knight that Martin Luther King had died.
It was like this weird mission of like what he
was trying to say in what the world was saying.
So he's always had his finger on the pulse of
the of like where the where the culture was, where

(06:28):
the country was. Uh, just a director beyond his time,
you know what I mean, just overall, just and when
you hear the guy talk, he's just so sweet and
tries to be and he's funny, and he's just really charismatic.
He's always been sweet to the fans that go want
to shake his hand because he's so like you said,
he's just a goat man. He's just I've never seen

(06:49):
a disparaging word against mister Romero.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
No, never, not once. I can't even believe you said
such a thing. Like it would never even strike my
mind someone would say something negative.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Crazy, right, all right? Yeah, he's like the will He's
like the Willy Walker Hard.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
He did make some weird ship that said.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yeah, moving on him. Wes Craven to be the sweetest
guys with the darkest minds, you know what I mean, Like,
oh yeah, holy holy crap, dude.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Shout out to coffee with him, you know what I mean,
pick his brain for a bit, that'd be great.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
I don't know if to have a beer with the guy,
picked his brain, talk shop, you know, talk about his influences.
I don't know if to have five minutes with the bro.
You know, you know what I mean? Rest in peace, right,
you know? Rest in peace? George Romero, he is missed
but never forgotten. Speaking of never be forgotten. Before we
jump into our double feature, I couldn't help myself. We
got to talk about Night. We got to talk about

(07:52):
the or the first film and this in this Dead Trilogyash,
what is your experience with the Living Dad? Do you
remember the first time he saw it? Were you affected
by it?

Speaker 3 (08:06):
I don't think. I want to say I was affected
by it. I got to Night a tad bit later
in life, probably ninth grade, ninth ninth ninth, tenth grade
was my first type of experiment with Night a living Dead.
And you know I had found Knight through probably tales

(08:27):
from the Crypt speaking of Romero and just some of
his work, you know what I mean. That's probably how
that happened. As I saw that, and I kind of
went back and went to see what the deal was,
and I love this film. This is a beautifully shot film,
from open to closing bell. It is a classic horror

(08:53):
film in my terms of horror. I'm not sure that
I go to it for that, but for a visual
a visual representation of like what a zombie apocalypse would
feel like. This does a very good job of like

(09:13):
if you like went to a museum and you were
watching it, like this could be in a museum. It
is such a beautifully shocked film, you know what I mean,
just running Oh yeah, this is our zombie section where
we look at how American life was trash through the
zombie apocalypse. And it's like, oh.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah, very documentary. And I'm gonna talk to about more
of this. When we talk about Dawn Is he has
a very documentarian eye. Right, it doesn't feel like a movie.
It doesn't the beats don't hit like a movie. Like
it feels like you said, this could have really happened,
and this was a document a document you know, documentation
of an event that actually happened in the earth at

(09:56):
some point. Right, And when it comes tonight, this is
really on my black and white Mount rushmore. Right, it's
like like Gilligan's Island, The Monsters, Night of the Living Dead.
I love Lucy right, like the top black and white
things in my brain, you know that just Live and Night.
What's one of those movies. When I was a kid,

(10:16):
I was more of a fan of Return of the
Living Dead, you know, the goofy one brains and all
that stuff. And it's just always on in the background
in my house, you know what I'm saying, Like my
dad would be watching it or it'll just be on.
And was never really scared of it, right, like like affected, Right,
It didn't affect me until I was older, like in
my twenties and thirties, where I watched it from an

(10:38):
adult point of view and had to like empathize with
the people like, yeah, I'm dead, dog, I'm just done.
I'm not making it out of a.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Situation when becomes real in your brain and you're like, ah.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Now see how the tables have turned, right, you know
what I mean? And just to give shout out to
Night of the Living Dead, beautiful shot movie, the birth
of a genre.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
You know, I would have included it, but I mean
it's three We've seen it a dozen times. I'm not
shading of the Living Dead at all. But I will
bring up that there is a trilogy to this whole
sequel that I was not quite aware existed. I had
heard about, but I wasn't really sure existed, and now

(11:25):
I know it does exist, and now I'm like, man,
we probably should have watched that first one and just
did all six.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
And that's why I felt like, I really I couldn't
leave it out, bro Like, I couldn't. There's no way, right,
And the meat of this is Done of the Dead.
The meat of this is Day of the Dead. But
how do you leave out? How you can't?

Speaker 3 (11:45):
I did not think you would. And we don't talk
about these things as they're they're made, you know what
I mean. So I was fully prepared for you to
be like, yeah, Night, of course.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
And what's funny and kind of the crux of this episode,
ladies and gentlemen, is that I had never I have
never seen in its totality Dawn all Day of the
Dead at all, never seen them. I've only seen Night
all the way through. So I figured this was the
perfect time.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Wait wait, never never seen them way through. So this
is a brand new review for MLTN.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Oh, this this is I watched it. You want to
know how freshness is. I was watching this while i'd
work today. I was literally watching I double backed Day
of the I double back Dawn at eight in the morning,
ran that through lunchtime. Day of the Dead, ran that
through it is about time to go to work, you know,

(12:44):
go home, right, So I literally watched these hours ago.
Of course, you know about the movies. You've seen in
the clips, you know all the but it's different watching
it and understanding the context of these images. And we start,
of course in chronological order, talking about let's go shopping,
Let's talk about Dona the dead Man. This movie is

(13:06):
a trip, dude.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Yes, And I just want to say that I may
mix up the title, so I call them seventy eight
and eighty four because it's just easier for me. It's
like I was making my notes, I'm like, which one
am I talking about? I don't know, So seventy eight
Donna the Dead right.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
It goes night dawn day, night.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Dawn day, Okay, any night, dawn day, Okay, I got it. Okay,
I got it all right, So moving on. Yes, this
is a great movie. Like as soon as the opening
bell hits my brain and just a bit of background
I've seen both these movies probably about three four times.
They've been on in the background at various you know,

(13:53):
Halloween parties or you're sitting in a bar during Halloween
and it's on. So I've seen them, but I've never
watched them like this close together, that's for certain. And
that was like twenty four to thirty six hours apart.
But that opening bell scene, I could not help but
think about that damn game PlayStation. What's the game? What's the.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
US?

Speaker 3 (14:18):
No with the ball?

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Oh? Okay, thank you, thank you, thank you. That was
my biggest takeaway is that Dead Rising by Capcom is
Dawn of the Dead. It's just it just is full
cell rip off. Like I was watching this movie and
was like, this is just Dead Rising.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Brain. Yeah, my brain didn't connect it until it started,
and I was like, this.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Is just it is like it's beat for beat Dead Rising.
You know what I mean? Did you see the end.
I've never seen such a lean influence outside of like
Metroid and damn Aliens, you know what I'm saying, Like
it's such a modern take on this where it's literally
it doesn't take itself too seriously. It's mounds of zombies.

(15:12):
There's vehicles, there's a mall. You know, it's just Dead Rising.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Bro, It's a reporter, you know what I mean, it's
a it's a reporter like it's it's so one that
knows that. When I was watching it, and you know,
I'm not going to turn this into a Dead Rising podcast,
but it's like, like I've played Dead Rising a couple
of times. Did you know that they were associated like this?

(15:38):
This is a thing.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
I never seen this movie like that, right, Like I've
known of Gone of the Day. I knew it was
in the mall. I never made the correlation until I
was I saw the tone of this film. This film
doesn't take itself seriously, has goofy music. There's really weird,
whimsical moments of it, and it's just they're trying on clothes.

(16:02):
What does Frank West do? He changes costumes, he tries
on goofy things. They use all types of weird attacks
on the zombies, you know what I mean, And they're
just fodder. There's millions of them, so they're just fodder.
And I was like, this is the cleanest wholesale ripoff.
And I love capcom right, but you got to call

(16:22):
a spade a spade, dude. Like their influences are so strong,
and I get it. This movie is iconic, bro, you
know what I mean everything from the You know what
this movie did to me when I first started watching
it is that first ten to fifteen minutes, which is
pure panic, and that got me. That's probably my favorite

(16:43):
part of the film is that first ten fifteen minutes
where everyone's freaking the hell out and the people on
the newscaster are arguing with each other like you gotta
drop the bs, dude, this is not the time, Like
we're all gonna die. Like you know what I'm saying
this is this is people are just scrambling and stuff,
and no, the scene where they go into the apartment
buildings and it just start breaking down people's doors and

(17:05):
ripping apart from that seems so real. That felt visceral,
you know what I'm saying, Like like the.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
Apartment, the apartment is terrified. The apartment is the one
is throughout the world. Both these films, because we are
kind of talking about these and have been kind of
a basket uh yeah, Like like that apartment sequence, you
are so like if you've lived in an apartment like that,
if you're from the eighties to seventies. It's tight, man,

(17:35):
you know it's tight, and you're just like, e, this
is not a good situation. And you know they Romero
does a great fantastic job of building this tension in
this playful, weird zombie film, you know what I mean,
because we're not getting zombies right now at first, and

(17:56):
when the zombies actually happen, it's kind of like, oh shit,
there's it's like, oh shit.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
The zombies are a weird afterthought, right, It's like the
human element that makes this movie so great to me,
and that in that apartment scene is very left or
dead right, it's very wreck where you're in this tight
you're in this tight corridor. These police are like, you know,
ice levels of like ruining people's lives and oh crap,

(18:24):
there's an affected so it accidentally gets a bit all
the deck, bro and like it's just it's just mayhem
for the beginning of the movie. And I didn't know
that even existed. I thought it started in the mall.
And it's a whole beginning of the movie where they
get to the mall, you know what I mean, They
gotta find the other people they're hiding out in some
house somewhere, you get to see Middle America, you know

(18:47):
what I'm saying, you know, with their guns and their
and their soul, and they're having a good ass time
killing people indescribinively and the way he shoots it, it's
so deaf, but it's so loud, you know what I mean.
Like we have just like we've had this in us
the entire time, you know what I mean. We just
looked and these people just needed an excuse to, you know,

(19:08):
to put out their guns and and they made a
party of it. Dude, they were having a party of it.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Yeah. And I'm you know, I'm from the Midwest, so
I'm not disparaging my Midwestern people, but in a real situation.
And unfortunately I didn't do my zombie history because I'm like,
what do we know about zombies up to this point?
Just in history, like write film history, and it's like, dude,
don't we know, don't don't don't we know not to

(19:36):
go to like trapped in places. But anyway, the Midwestern
scene would strike me as something that would be fairly
reasonable that would happen. Like I can definitely see more
people than I know grabbing a gun and being like, oh,
I getting.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Hell yeah, brother and a brother, Let's go and get.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Some South Park dude. It's coming right for me now.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
You know what I mean. Yeah, it's so crazy.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
So yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Another thing I wanted to talk about when it comes
to Dawn of the Dead is satire over substance, right,
because this movie does a really good job at balancing,
like you said, the goofy with I'm trying to tell
you a metaphor, you know what I mean, when you
hear satire versus substance, Do you think this movie does
a good balance of these slapstick versus the You need

(20:31):
to hear this message because it's really ruining us as
a society at the time.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
I would say no, Like at seventy eight, if I
went to the theater, I would know I don't get it.
Looking back on it in twenty twenty five and just
you know, you can drive by a mall now and
this thing is empty, and it's like, man, there's a
lot of things that go along with it, both good
and bad. But at the exact same time, I'm not

(20:59):
sure that when you're watching this movie that that message
the substance is screaming to me. You know, what I mean,
It's like I get it, I get it again. It's
kind of in the nose or in the malls of
you're shopping. But at the same time, you know, it's
not taking itself so seriously, not like our other movie

(21:20):
Day of the Dead, which takes itself a tad bit
more seriously that in that manner. So this not not
as much.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
No, yeah, and I'm gonna talk about it more. But
it's almost like, if you watch these movies in a row,
you can see Marmaro's frustration with America the more you
get to it, like, Oh, you didn't hear me the
first time. I'm gonna double down. Oh you're still not
listening to me. Day of the Dead it's like, just
get knocking us over the head with the metaphor, right,

(21:49):
But I think this movie is the my Porridge is
just right of the three. Where is that perfect balance
of I'm not gonna beat your head over the fear
of consumerism and blind and blind obedience and all that
crazy you know what he's talking about, versus let's just
shoot some zombies in the head with some sweet you know,

(22:09):
Tom SAFVIENI gore effects. You know what I'm saying, So
I think this this this movie does a really good
way to balance its story, and that's a plus. We
don't want it to beat us over the head, right,
you want it to be subtle. It reminds me of
and you mentioned, you know, like if I saw this
back when it came out, I wouldn't have got the

(22:29):
metaphor right over my head, right. But it's like, think
about Godzilla. Nobody would have thought Godzilla was a metaphor
for the full World War Two. And you know, the
dropping of Hiroshima, they just said, oh cool, giant giant Kaiju.
You know what I'm saying, That rules it looks cool.
It took thirty years for us to figure out all
the metaphors and things like that. So I think those

(22:51):
kind of things take time, you know what I'm saying,
unless you're just a galaxy brain. But it's not.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
It's hitting you over the head with it, like you
know the couple of your recent movies that you've discussed
in podcast check out our Friday shows. But yeah, you know,
I don't think that's this. I think that they take
a moment or two to address it, but they quickly
move on, such as the shopping scene, for instance, and

(23:18):
just how utterly like ridiculous it is that you're like,
how about a mink coat in the middle of a
freaking zombie apocalypse? You know what I mean? There are
just other matters to deal with.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
And that's what I mean by satire versus substance. Like
there's a scene where the where fly Girl is at
a skating rink inside the mall and she's skating by
herself in a circle, and it's telling two stories. It's satire. Oh,
she's she's just taking advantage of the situation she gets
to skate all day. Substance, she's isolating herself from the

(23:55):
real world. You know what I mean is the hell
it's going on outside? But I'm gonna ice because I
could icekate Like you said, the shopping sequence when the
raiders show up and they're just having and they're taking
the fruits of the mall for granted and having a
good old time, you know, bashing zombies over the head
and making a game of it. It's both like what

(24:15):
are we doing to ourselves versus guns and zombie explosions,
So it makes you think without it's very subliminal the
way he kind of he beats you over the head,
but he also gives you novacane first, so you can't
feel it. You know what I'm saying. That's kind of
how it feels. He's balking you, but he already hits
you with the novacane. Yeah, fine, I feel nothing. I

(24:38):
feel nothing, so you know, keeping things moving along. It's
the end of the world as we know it, and
I feel fine.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Let's talk about the good old bub. Dude. I don't
know how a real bub was until I finally seen
this movie, Doug. Let's let's talk about Day of the Dead.
All these movies feel different. They feel like they're made
from different directors to me because their tones are so radical.
Like you said, like None of the Dead, Weeds is

(25:10):
like a documentary, Like a documentary right Day of the Dead,
I mean, Dawn of the Dead, Weeds is like a
satire ish commentary. This reads as like a dystopian we're
all gonna die, there's no hope, screw this mess, what
do we do now? Type situation.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
I had issues with this from the word go because
it was set too loud when you talk about Romeo,
and I hadn't considered it till now because I wasn't
really looking through when I was watching the films. I
wasn't looking for that, you know what I mean. I
wasn't looking for the message. I was looking at at
a zombie film. And when you talk about Romero bashing

(25:53):
us over the head with it, the value of Day
of the Dead is so loud from the word go,
everyone's just yelling, not stop. And I have sensitive heres.
I am sensitive to that type of behavior just from
my experiences living by the four or five. Like, I'm

(26:13):
just sensitive to no really, you know what I mean.
And so it's on and it was beating me like
twenty minutes in and people are just still yelling, and
I'm just like we're starting, like this is this is
the start of this thing, you know what I mean.
So I hadn't considered it, but yeah, I mean, people
weren't getting the point, and they He had a message

(26:38):
for this, for sure, a definite message.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
That's a very good call out wash and that it's
not just thematically loud. The people are loud. This is
my monkey farm now freaking starve like that was screaming
the entire time. Everybody will and.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
Number one, his number one one was screaming he was
the first one who started because it starts with them
in the deal pretty much starting to deal with the zombies,
and so going out to get one and he just
starts like yelling and banging gulls stuff, and then the
machine gun start going and it's cranked up the ten
and I'm literally like.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
I'm getting a headache watching this stud.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
And I'm watching the I'm not watching the Blu Ray
version of these movies, which, by the by the way, folks,
by physical because I guarantee you it has to be
a beautifully, more beautifully shot film than the four to
twenty version that I watched. So yeah, the sound was
so loud form the word.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Go yeah, just shout out. There's no way to watch
Down of the Dead streaming right now. I have to
watch it on YouTube. Like that's how I watched it.
I couldn't I could even buy it. It's crazy. So
get like by physical because digital is finite.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
But uh, and not not that conversation. Sorry you you
tricked me. I was like, oh about.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Sorry, I didn't mean to trigger you. Yeah, yeah, we
talk about that. I want to talk about the beginning
of this movie and how it's like I just got
mind you. When I watched this, I was just off
the heels of dawn. They were like, hey, we have
this chopper, how much gas is in it? And I
don't know, we'll figure it out. End of the movie.

(28:24):
You don't know the fate of fly Girl and what's
his face? Right? And then you cut to this movie's like, well, yeah,
they're dead. Nobody made it, Doug, Like you know what
I'm saying, Like the streets are completely empty, zombies are
just kind of hello. The movie opens with screaming are
you there? Hello? And freaking alligators walking down the street

(28:48):
and ship dude, total shot.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
I was like, oh, that's wicked.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Man, that's beautiful shot. Dude. Like the first thing you
see is this crazy gore effect where some dudes just
you know, deteriorates out of his mouth. Day of the Dead,
you know, It's like, yeah, nobody made it, bro, We're
all out of effect, you know what I mean? This
may be the last pot of humans on Earth type dystopia.

(29:14):
And then, like you said, we get to the scene
where they're in that weird almost like underground tunnel and
they're having to whore the zombies in and his second
and command I think his name was Steel or something
like that. It's just screaming at the top. He's literally
doing guttural barbarian screams into the echoed tunnel, like come
get this dick. He's like saying all types of crazy stuff.

(29:36):
And I'm like, what is this, dug?

Speaker 3 (29:38):
It's crazy, I remember thinking because he was standing around
the the second flag girl. Sorry, I don't have their
names in front of me. I did, but it's not
at any rate. And he's literally just yelling as he
walks around their head and he's just yelling. And I'm like,
how many times did they have to shoot that man?

(29:58):
Because I I cut? I just cut. That was too
what's yelling? It's like, why are there's eight of us
in a bunker close yelling at.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
The top of our blanket because because you're not listening
listening Romero was so tired of us by by day brouh,
you know what I'm saying. And it's like this movie
is talking this movie. One thing I like about this
movie that it does that other movies doesn't do. They're
actually talking about the zombies. It's not just this external force.

(30:32):
They're like, okay, how do these things work? Man? Okay?
So this is part of the brain. I think this
is the part of the brain that actually triggers it.
They're not fueled by hunger, they're not fueled by anything,
but this reptilian part of our brain that just wants
to survive, you know what I mean. And the lady
is like the main scientist. She's like, yeah, a lot
of your theories aren't sound, bro, You're not like you're

(30:53):
like you're you're you're playing like you're playing in the sand, Frankenstein.
They're not doing anything. And it's like, it's so crazy
because he's really not you know what I'm saying. Frekiside
is supposed to be this great scientist, but he's not
solving anything. He's just playing with his food in a way.
And I understand the frustration of the soldiers, but there's
such dickheads you can't really side with them, you know

(31:15):
what I'm saying, because it's like, I get it, bro, Like,
what are you doing to get us out the situation?
Absolutely nothing?

Speaker 3 (31:23):
And I I want to say that Romero pulled me
in both sides because I was very tired of the
military dudes in this one, like they were.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
Yeah, there's such a pace but at the same time,
it's like I get I get what they're saying, like
what what exactly is it that you're doing that we're doing,
and why are we just sitting here and not taking
care of this problem?

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Which is it brings me back to though, what do
we know about zombie culture?

Speaker 1 (31:53):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (31:53):
Today you would me me zych. It's like, all right,
we in the zombie apocalypse. If you go run into
a bunk like you gotta have a plan to get out.
You can't just sit in the bunker, you know what
I mean. It's kind of a bad plan. Both these
plans part part two and Part three seventy four.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
No, no good plans.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
I'm not down on that one. But it's like, even
though I do like what you said with the examination
of the zombies themselves, because I want to say I don't.
I don't think we we've seen too many movies where
zombies are trying to be trained.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Ever, you get it a little bit. And the other
the remember uh Vermero made that John Lake Wizamo zombie
movie in like the two thousands.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
That's the one I haven't seen it. That's the three
of them.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Yes, yeah, it's called Land of the Land of the Dead. Yeah,
where they're kind of going into like these things are learning, right,
these zombies are starting to grow cognizance again. So I
think this was like the birth of that, where it's
like the goat bub here is learning how to turn
on a plate, turn on a record player, he's learning

(33:06):
how to fire a gun, he's learning how to salute,
he's learning how to talk. So that's this is kind
of the birth of that, and the Land of the
Dead was kind of like the natural transition into it.
We're now Raman I was talking about like the Lower
Class and nine to eleven and you know what I mean,
it is his whole thing. The Land of the Dead
is a completely different podcast. That's a whole can of worms,

(33:27):
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
So, Okay, I didn't know it existed.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Yes, but that's what But that answers your question. Yes,
we do kind of go into that in the future films,
but for this one, it's kind of like, oh, they
can be taught, kind of, they can't be domesticated kind of,
but I don't dosticate what are we gonna do it?
So if we shout those mothers in their heads. You

(33:54):
know my money was on Jesus. You know he was.
That guy was on tilt the entire time. My man
had team no Chill to the empty team No chill, Bro.
My man didn't want to hear nothing about nothing. Bro.
There's that scene where I need you to sit back
in your chair. I'm not doing shit right this dude.

(34:14):
Some points are gun at his homie, like we need
to shoot her. I'm gonna shoot you. You think I'm
playing around, bro? He had to assert dominance, stuck like
he was such a like. I said, I get the
soldier side of things, but they're such pricks that it
makes it hard to root for them. So I think
this is a good segue into our other slide for

(34:37):
for a Day of the Dead, No Guts, no glory
and I and I did that perfectly because I wanted
to censor that so we don't get stung on YouTube,
so all the good parts are blocked by the yellow spot.
But I just wanted to talk about one thing we
haven't talked about is the gore of these films, the meaty,
chunky nastiness of these the victual like approach to these

(35:01):
zombie movies that are very rarely duplicated, you know what
I mean. Like, there's nothing grosser than a Tom Savigni
zombie movie. You know what I mean. It's iconic and
it's gross and it's grotesquery. Did these scenes bother you
at all?

Speaker 3 (35:17):
Wash? Uh No, because I was watching them in low deaf.
I'm sure if I had a better version, I probably
would have been a tad bit more squeamish. But uh
with the with what I was watching, I knew what
was coming, so you know, it all worked out. But
that being said, it is a level of gore. Again

(35:38):
another idea in zombies in zombie film history. It's a
level of gore that we don't see naturally in zombie movies,
even though we probably should. Like these these zombies, their
hands have to have like the pressure of like steel

(35:59):
freaking plate jacks, Like they touch you in like you
just just melt. It was like Indiana Jones when he
opened up the freaking Yes, his face melted off. That's
what they touch him.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
And like they're they're they're covered in shroud. They're covered
in the shroud of the Covenant, like they just covered
they have shrouded the Covenant fingers where it just melts
into your face like like a Sadren Dova. Bro. Yeah,
these obvious like aren't playing Doug because they have they
have no concept of pain, so they could just dig
to you with no issue, you know what I'm saying.

(36:37):
And there's certain scenes that do kind of make it go.
Like there's a bite in the beginning of Dawn of
the Dead where the black guy bites the black woman
on the ankle and you could just see the meat
kind of pull from the chunk of the How did
they do that? You know? Times if he needs to
go right, and of course this scene choke on them right,

(36:58):
chow god right, they're literally ripping my man's apart. Funny
story about that scene is that to get the effects right,
Tom Zavigny had to use actual pigan testines and pigmy
and mixed it with blood, right, because you just couldn't.
You can't fake that, right, It's real organs. The problem
is that this is a movie set, so these pig

(37:20):
organs weren't recycled out. These are just the ones they had,
and it was a hot summer when they were making
this movie, so those started to they started to open
up and after take after take after take. You know,
it started to be so repulsive in that scene that
all the zombies had to have their noses stopped up

(37:40):
with gossil they cannot wretch at the smell of these
rotted pagan testines to get the scene right.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
I do remember saying to myself, this is also a movie.
I didn't want to be a zombie in that. You know,
there are some films where you're like, ah, i'd i'll
be a zombie, I'll be a vampire. This that's where
you're like, like, no, this, this is a full day's
worth of work right here. This isn't good work. This
is gonna be bad, nasty like zombie work.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
It's gonna be it's gonna be thirsty work. The Zobie's
got the busy Doug. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
I will say that this specific death was very satisfying
for me out of all of the deaths. Uh, this
was satisfying when it happened because he's such an ale hole.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
It's the best death of the series, honestly, right, like
him getting literally ripped apart, and like you said, him
them building him up to be such a cantankerous human, Like, yeah,
you have to go, bro, you have to go the hardest.
You have to die hard, you know what I mean?
Because you literally shot the hoby in the head for
no reason, just to prove a point, you know what

(38:55):
I'm saying. Okay, random question, Why were the soldiers so racist?
They're all weirdly racist.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
Because seventies and eighties, man, they they gotta they tell
you know that, you gotta. Everybody's got some underline racist
joke going on.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
And it's like, I get why you guys are bad,
but why do you have to be such assholes about it? Dude?
Like like what do you what are you wasting? What
are you doing with my time? You know? It's like,
you know, and to be honest to scientists were putzing around.
They didn't have any answers. We're all gonna die, bro,
They just we're just gonna try to you know. It's
like no one had answers. And that's what I love

(39:32):
about these movies is that there is no And that's
what the the pilot was saying, there's no solution to this. Man.
We pissed like we did something to upset God, and
now this is where we're at. He said, you go
over here trying to solve it. You don't solve the rain,
you know what I'm saying, You don't solve the stars.
It just this is what it is now. So why

(39:56):
don't we just go on the beach, live out the
rest of our days and chill, and that'll be the
end of us. Like you over here trying to figure
stuff out. Your egott is all killed, you know what
I'm saying. That's like the most out.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Of all the ideas I heard throughout both movies, that
was the most reasonable of them. That went, yeah, that
one actually makes some sense. I don't know what the
rest of y'all bow drop knowledge.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
The first fifteen minutes of the movie, they were like,
well you well, we'll love to hear your idea. Jamaican
fly Man just goes smoke some trees on an islands,
smoke cheese on an eyelands.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
For everything, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Yeah, yeah, it's the end of the world.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
Man.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
She's like, you know, we have an obligation to figure that, like,
you're crazy.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
You're crazy working with Frankenstein. And then you see who
she's been working with all this time, and it's like.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Yah, yeah at least and then the other guy was
like yeah, and they were like, who are you contacting?
Why aren't you doing your job? Why aren't you getting
hold of anybody? Yo? This this, this broadcast system is
from World War two. Nobody's listening, bro, Like nobody, and

(41:11):
these signals only go so far, maybe like one hundred
mile radius, like a thousand even a thousand mile radius.
It's like, no, we are we are isolated. There is
nobody coming, bro, And it's like we're ft, We're just ft,
and you guys haven't realized it yet. No, but no,

(41:33):
wash but wash, No one's listening. You aren't listening. You
aren't hearing what Rameiro is trying to tell you. So
he's gonna make everybody yell because because the earth is
not hearing with his point, you know. And it's just
like I fight the tide at this point, you know

(41:57):
what I mean? And even the even the doctor said
Frankens is like, Okay, buddy, you're all big and bad.
Where would you go if you want to leave? You
can leave, But where would you go? You got enough
guns to fight thousands of these things? Are you gonna
kick all their asses? No? So shut up and let
me figure this out. You're not figuring anything out, though

(42:18):
you're playing. Like I said, he literally has a brain
and a stem and he's just poking at it, you
know what I mean. And the female scientist, it's like,
you're not doing anything. You're not trying to solve You're
solving the wrong You're trying to solve the wrong thing.
So we're already backwards. It makes it more nihilistic.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
There was a bad situation because it's like, all right,
what are we gonna do? That didn't mean to see
any food man, and this trapping system that they have
for the zombies very flaw.

Speaker 5 (42:46):
Whose freaking idea was this? That is the most dangerous
idea they lost lost Like we could just.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
Do like a store where one could come in and
the others can come out and boards, bro, like, what
are we doing the seventies?

Speaker 1 (43:06):
You can't just get a subway rotator. It's just let
these boos go through. What are the time? And close it?
What are the time? Here's the most dangerous shit. The
beginning of the movie, they're like, yeah, we lost like
five soldiers dealing with y'all and we have no idea
what you're doing. We're kind of mad. We're kind of
mad about it because we want to leave and you're
not giving us a solution on how to leave. And

(43:27):
you've been you've been kind of yanking our chain this
entire time. Please tell us what you're doing. It's not
ready yet, not ready yet, we're just getting these at the.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
Lose five soldiers working in that type of condition. I
would be upset as well. It's like, we this is
the best we're doing here. And you know, being the
Romero shot shot film, like there was a total of
like three rooms, you know what i mean. So it's
like living in these like three rooms, and it's like,
this isn't a big spot, This isn't a big like

(44:01):
so like there was some holes and in some aspects
of that nature where it's just like what are we
doing in a zombie apocalypse?

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Like what was your plan? You can almost feel the
budget in this one because Donald of the Dead was
such wide. It was a big old shopping mall to play.
You got these aerial shots of the country and there
was the one scene where they were in they were
doing the truck run and Homeboy got touched because he
was an idiot, you know what I'm saying. And it's
so wide, and this film is so claustrophobic because you're underground.

(44:33):
You don't see light, you don't see day, you barely
see if I'm the only time you see light is
the beginning of the movie. In the end of the movie,
that's it. Everything is in this one enclosed spot, which
builds tension because everybody's getting on their nerves. Yet I
want to talk about that one character who was just
having the biggest stress. He was having the biggest stress
meltdown the entire time. Yeah, my man was having a

(44:56):
full breakdown. He slapped he slapped the homie twice and
then hugged her bro and he was just like He's like,
like this guy is you gotta keep an eye on
this dude. They're like, now he's the homie dog. He's good. No,
he's literally gonna break down. It's good. He's a danger
to us all Now he's good. We need him. And
my man is over here shaking. He's like Gill from
the Simpsons, Doug. He's just like not ready for anything

(45:17):
that's gonna happen. He has up being like a liability bro.
It's like, this whole movie is so nihilistic. It's more
like to me, it's more nihilistic than the other two.
There's no hope with this film.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
But there's no hope. But there's no hope because there's
no there's no communication. It's it's like it's like, like
we talked about this just the ironically last podcast about
the zombie apocalypse and that coming for you, like you
gotta you gotta choose your zombie environment very carefully, man.

(45:48):
And it's like if you're in a room with none
other people that well, six of them are just gonna yell.
Two of them are idiots, and then two of them
are scientists. It's like, yeah, we this, We're not gonna
make it. We're not gonna make it. You're not gonna
make it. Honestly, Bro probably did them all of favor
breaking all the zombies in because frankly, once they got out,

(46:10):
it wasn't gonna get better.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
For it wasn't getting And this movie has a lot
more in common than Night because one thing about Day
about Dawn is that they had communication. They were working together,
probably quite well for a long for a long until
the raiders came and jacked everything up, you know what
I mean. They were they were getting along.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
And the boy went off off off help. The helicopter
pilot went off, Hilton and it's like, no, I gotta
take these dudes out. It's like we were all getting
out of here.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Bro. Yeah, we were all good to go. We had
to figure it out. And it's like, I'll never forget
Cooper and Night of the Living Dead was the big asshole. Yeah,
of course he was the contrarian. Me and my daughter,
you know, fighting fighting Dwayne Jones the whole damn time,
you know. So they had to be a miscommunication there,
and this movie was miscommunication the movie because you have

(46:59):
these meat heads who aren't listening to anything, who have
guns and are violent, and these scientists. It's almost like
Revenge of the Nerds, you know.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
What I mean.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
It's like these two, these two ecosystems can't exist this
close together because it just breeds mayhem.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
Not in the situation, not in the specific situation, bad
situation for that bad situation.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
So we're kind of talking about it, and before we
close out for the evening, we just got to talk
about the trilogy as a whole. Neither Living Dead, Dawn
of the Dead, Day of the Dead. I just think
this is one of the most iconic horror trilogies, If
not the most iconic horror trilogy of all time, I can't.

(47:41):
I'm pressed to think about it better. Trilogy of horror
movies that are just solid in their own respective way.
Not Freddie Krew, not Nightmare and elm Street, not you know,
Friday the Thirteenth, not Aliens, not any of that. This
is one of the most solid, thought like thought pieces
of all What are your thoughts about the trilogy as

(48:01):
a whole.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
I think that Romero goat his mark is on these films,
unlike other horror films have been marked. You know what
I mean. You can't look at three individual Freddy movies
or three individual Jason movies or Halloween movies that go, yeah,

(48:25):
these three have the marking of this directory. They smell, feel,
taste like this director. And that's what Romero gives us
in these three, which is why I'm very interested for
the sub sub sub subsequential, the ones afterwards, Land of

(48:45):
the Dead, and those three, because I'm curious if they
have the exact same flavor as these do as far
as storytelling and their overall message that they're going for.
From opening shot of Land or Night to the closing
shot of day, dawn day, damn it. It's it's like

(49:11):
a beautifully written story and it's a beautifully shot, like
horrific of stressful event. If, yes, if you had to
shoot a horrific event happening, this is how you would.
It would be shot from all three. And do they

(49:31):
line up, you know, as we'd like to see him
in twenty twenty five. Everything's in its own world. No,
they don't necessarily line up back to back to back
like that, but I don't think they have to. They
can be three individual cap shots within this one world,
and I think it works just fun.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
That is an excellent point. It's an excellent point. You
actually derailed me from my original talk. Part is that
this is such a contrast of what we consider sequential
content in twenty twenty five. Right, this isn't the Romero
cinematic universe where they have to find the gun of Barbara.

(50:12):
You know what I'm saying. It has to the skeletive
of oh Man, I found a skeleton of bub in
this sequel. You know what I'm saying. You know it's
it's not it doesn't have to be that over your head.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
The code on the phone.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
Has the code on it that'll get us through Diary
of the Dead, you know what I'm saying, Like, it's
not such a it doesn't have to be so interwoven.
It's almost the perfect universe, right. This is the first
cinematic universe where they're all it's all going on at
different points of the same world, but it's told from

(50:50):
different point of views, different perspectives, different time frames, different situations,
but it's all under the same umbrella of this is Earth,
this is America, and this is what's happening.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
I would say that the only other thing, and I
haven't seen the final yet, is is thirty Days Past,
thirty days before, thirty days whatever that series is that
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Remembering the name of twenty eight days Later, all that
good stuff.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
Twenty eight days Later. That's the only other series I
think where we have kind of working in that same
type of world in just completely different you know, zones
and areas of things that are happening. And that's kind
of cool. Man. Everything doesn't need to be peanut butter

(51:34):
and jelly on top of each other, perfectly masched together,
you know what I mean. You can throw a marshmallow
and a Hershey's chocolate bar In there and it's like, oh,
well this is good, this is good. Weird but good.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Yeah, I totally agree. And I love the way he
does it. He's like he's do you think And the
contrary would say, oh, it's just the same story told
three times, and it's like, no, there's different pressures, there's
different stresses, there's different even the events themselves are different.
There's different circumstances, you know what I'm saying. And I

(52:08):
want to mention the remake of Dawn of the Dead,
the one that was done by Zack Snyder, you know
with Ving Rains and stuff like that. Remember the remake
of Dawn of the Dead. No, it was Ving Rains
and a couple of people that were in that movie.
The Dawn of the Dead remake that that Zack Snyder
did a little while back.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
I don't I'm watching it. I don't have it in
my brain.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Mind you I'm horror brain. I wish I could talk
horror more on this channel. You know what I'm saying.
But I bring up that remake because it talks to,
like you said, the other trilogy, because there's the Romel
did another trilogy. Like you said, there is the Land
of the Dead, Diary of the Dead, and I think
there's Final of the Day. I forget what the last
one's called, the one that he did before he passed away,

(52:59):
But there's a separate Survival of the Dead where he
did a separate trilogy, like more modern that You're like,
where is the zombie apocalypse now after thirty years, you
know what I'm saying. And I haven't seen the final one.
I've only seen Diary, and I've only seen Land and
Diary is told completely from a cell phone, which is weird,

(53:22):
and it's told from the view of a cell phone
camera like very like but Romero, it's a very interesting film,
you know what I mean. What did guys say, If
it's not on film, it didn't happen, you know what
I mean. And it's like this, it's like it's this
like a hot take on where Americans like priorities are,

(53:45):
you know what I mean. It's such an interesting film.
But just to talk about this Dead trilogy, I think
this is one of the most perfect trilogies in film.
And like you said, I think there's a lot to remember.
My original idea, my original take was maybe it's because
Romeo had such cart bunch to do whatever he wanted
to do and no interference to tell these stories right.

(54:09):
Like the big story on Day of the Dead was like, Okay, Romero,
we'll give you fifty million dollars to make this movie,
but it has to be an R but we'll give
you thirteen million dollars if you could do whatever you want.
And Romeo said, I take the thirteen. I'll make it
work for you. I'm gonna I'm want to tell my story.
So he took the cut from the from the company

(54:31):
and made whatever he wanted and each film it's his
own gorilla filmmaking from a single source. There's no there's
not a lot of chefs in this kitchen. So it's
easier to tell a cohesive story in an incohesive way
and still get your point across.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
And it's a very unique, unique style of the storytelling too,
you know what I mean. Like again, these these these scenes,
the violence, the horror, it doesn't necessarily ring as horror
and violence like the violence does, but not so much.
The horror isn't like scary, but it's it's very Romero in.

(55:12):
It's in its texture and its viscerality, and it's and
it's feeling and an overall tone which would lead me
to ask, you know you double back these, like how
do you feel after watching both of these? Like how
do you are you in a happy are you like damn?

(55:34):
Are you like zombie?

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Like?

Speaker 3 (55:36):
How do you feel?

Speaker 2 (55:38):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (55:38):
That's a very good question because I thought about that.
I thought about you know what. My thought was after
the end of my day, work day, and I watched
all of Dawn and all of Day back to back
for the very first time. This is a hell of
a double feature. Man, This is a great double feature, right,
like they flow together, but they're not the same. You

(55:59):
got your gory, got your yucks, you got your commentary.
I didn't feel necessarily bummed out. I didn't feel well
is me. I didn't feel like it's the end of
the world. I felt like, this is a damn good
story this man is telling, and we as humans need
to get it to damn together. That's my biggest takeaway
is that we need to get it together because all
it takes is something like this, and we're just ft,

(56:20):
you know, because we don't have we don't have it together, bro.
And I think that's his biggest takeaway. It's like look
at what we're doing to ourselves. No, I'm keeping the
camera on the gore, the ugly parts. This is what
we're doing to ourselves. I'm gonna keep my camera on
the infighting. Yes, they're screaming this into what I'm telling you.
This is what we're doing to ourselves. And I think
Romeo's message is so strong in these three films because

(56:44):
he was just so frustrated with the culture. Mind you,
the civil rights movement was hit because Martin Luther King
died the night he finished this movie. He was feeling
that that was in the air, you know, well, it
permeated the message. And then Dawn comes out. He's like, man,
we're brain rot We're brain rotting. Man. All people want

(57:07):
to do is go to the mall and spend money
and consume. That's not right. I'm gonna make a movie
about it. You know what I'm saying. It's crazy his
the way his brain worked in these in these three
different commentaries on American culture. And before we go into
the last slide, I want to say that he had
a script for Land of the Dead already made, and

(57:31):
then nine to eleven happened, and he said wait, he
said wait, I need to see what the new normal is.
I'm going to trash the script what's going on. I'm
gonna wait like three four years and see where we
are as a culture. Then he wrote he wrote a

(57:51):
brand new script for Land of the Dead because he
was like, oh, this is gonna change things. And it did.
It changed everything. So I can't the goat, right, I
can't say enough about them. So one thing I'd like
to do at the very end of all things, this
has been a great double feature. I didn't want to

(58:13):
versus this like a standard random select right, but I
would like to ask you, watches after watching both of
these films, is there a film that you enjoyed more
than the other at the end of the day, I
will say, and I was in agreement with you.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
It is a really good double feature that you know,
if you want to sit down with the date and
go ahead and make some popcorn, get something to eat,
and treat some snacks during Halloween, you can most certainly
do that. And these are two good films to just
kind of kick back and relax to. I will say
that I enjoyed Dawn of the Dead more as a film,

(58:56):
but I enjoyed a day of the Dead more as
a horror film.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Day of the Dead.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
Unfortunately, the yelling kind of got to me so that
that that was just rough. It was just rough. Like
it was just rough. You know, I can't get screamed
at for two hours, but it did. And it's fine.
But Donna the Dead told a more cohesive story. But
you know, Day of the Dead, like when they're dealing

(59:26):
with the zombies coming up and it's not necessarily terrifying
that the apartment scenes terrifying, and don but trying to
handle a zombie with like a neck thing and having
this burnt out dude next to me, dude screaming at me, like, nah,
that's all a bit stressful. And then you walk around

(59:47):
in the doctor Frankenstein's office and you got this nut
job hanging out. Nah, this is more of a horror
movie to me.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Very good choice, very good choice, and it's funny. I've
I read. I watch a lot of horror anthologies, I
watch a lot of horror like documentaries, and what they
say is that the film buffs love the intellectual and
the approach of Dawn of the Dead, but the Grimlins
love Day of the Dead. You know, the fucking Griblins, dude,

(01:00:17):
like the you know, the blood soaked hard duds, you know,
because Day is the is the Savini effects perfected. Day
is Savigni. I say it again, Day is is Tom
Savigni effects perfected. He figured it out and that's when
he was you know what, say lovey right? But for me,

(01:00:39):
it's and it's I can understand why the community is
so split between these two because if you ask anybody
what's better don or Day, You're gonna get a different
answer from the same guy on different different days.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
I just gave you two different answers, and I'm like,
you know what I mean. I didn't necessarily pick one.
I've got two different features from each that made one
for me.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Yeah, you know, And I'm right there with you. It's like,
to me, I'm opposite, Like Donna the Dead is a
scarier film than Day of the Dead. To me, Donna
the Dead felt too real to me, like the news,
the news reporters. The scrambling of that opening scene with
the damn with the damn like apartment building felt real,

(01:01:26):
and it kind of started to get to me. In
an open space while I'm working half, you know, like
I'm still feeling it like, oh that's I don't like it.
I don't like it. I don't like it, you know.
Whereas Day of the Dead it was more comedic almost
because they were yelling. They were defusing the tension with
all the screaming, the over acting and the you know

(01:01:47):
what I'm saying, just verbosity of that film. Everybody is ramped.
Everybody's acting their ass off in that movie. You know
what I'm saying, Like there's no subtlety. There's no subtlety
to it, but that's part of its charm, you know
what I mean. It's really like a alien versus aliens
type thing where it's like, don't make me pick my babies.

(01:02:07):
You know what I'm saying, Like, don't make me pick
I will.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
Pick Night over both.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
That's not fair. This is a double feature. You can't
pick Night, Bros. Of course you picked Night Bro. Shut up, Bro,
you're not doing that all right. You know what I'm saying.
Spaghetti spaghetti, our pizza. I want a burger. So if
I had to pick one, it's so tough. I can't

(01:02:37):
pick Bro. I will pick Dawn if you hold Hell
the gun to my head, because Donn is the one
I want to watch again, don is the one. I'm
quick like I must have missed something. I want to
see that opening scene again. I want to. I want
to see the more of the Dead Rising in it.
I want to.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
I want to play Dead Rising. That's what I want
to do, right the like, I feel like firing up
Dead Rising and just go through that because.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
It's Frank West. Was there? No, It's tough. Frank West
was there, Bro, He was in this movie somewhere floating
around with his camera. Gotcha, you know what I'm saying.
He was just there.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
I bet you He's There's there, He's there in spirit.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
There's a character, there's somebody in one of the capcom
The creator of Dead Rising was like flink wist, dude.
He just created the character automatically. This was one hell
of a double feature, man. And that brings us to
the end of this episode. The MLT and Halloween Special

(01:03:40):
review of Dawn of the Dead and Day of the
Dead Man. This was such an interesting watch for me
because it's my absolute, very first time horror version of
these two films. Of Course, you hear about them, you
hear about the zeit geist. You can't escape them. But
sitting down and watching them in their totality. It's a

(01:04:01):
completely different animal. And this is an experience that I'm
happy I was able to share with you and share
with the Neuder verse. Man, this was a very very
good first Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
No, absolutely, I love the good double feature, good couple
of films, good good way to kick off Halloween and
get get get the festivities kind of started and starting
to feel in the spirit, and I do kind of
think of UFOs and A do you have the aliens
and zombies above those two things? We get one, you know,

(01:04:32):
I don't know which one we're gonna get, but let's
hope it's not zombies zombie aliens.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
Oh shit, we're all going to die. That's just isn't
that just the thing? Yeah? I think it's just a
zombie alien. Either way, it's screwed.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
As I like to close these out, any last thoughts
on the Romero verse, this double feature before we close
this bad Boy out.

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
Goat glad we could do it. I will probably watch
the next three. I will probably have to do that
because yeah, I'm gonna have to know how he ends
all of this.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
Absolutely, and you'll be able to catch out on moltn
match with the Universe podcast, which we record on Fridays
at six pm Pacific Standard time, where a watch will
double back if he does complete the Romero storyline, I'm
sure he'll tell us all about it. This is the
spooky season, so we're gonna be talking about horror stuff
and scary stuff and cotton candy and costumes. It's gonna

(01:05:32):
be a great month for MLTN. So I want to
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(01:05:53):
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