MOTN Reviews: Superman (2025)

Tootie Odin and Mike G use our super vision to review the blockbuster movie of the year! Is the new Superman super great or #supersucks Watch and find out!

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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(00:53):
Mtim Reviews where we take a glance at one of
the most anticipated films of twenty twenty five. I'm, of
course master of the nerdi Verse. Mike g and with
me is the also master of her central quadrant of
the Nerdiverse. Two te Lady Odin, what's going on? Toots
going on?

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Really excited for this? Fora really excited.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yes, I'm so excited. It feels like deja vu. It
feels like I've been here before, you know, like and
it's funny we mentioned that because we actually saw this
movie twice, which gives your indication of may be how
we feel about this film. But you're gonna have to
listen and find out. Toots all right off the bat
before we even jump into our presentation here in just

(01:38):
our overall review, what was your uh, how do you
feel about Superman? I'm just curious, like, what are your
thoughts on Superman as a character?

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Uh, Superman is the very first superhero that I was
introduced to. I think he's probably the first for many
and I can't remember if it was like a sort
of like a Merry Maladies cartoon, but you know, the
Superman of the fifties was the very first Superman I
ever saw. Yeah, it's it's a good tie between him
and Batman. Batman was the first one I was actually into.

(02:10):
But Superman, I think was a very first superhero I
ever I was ever Superman like is like band aid,
you know what I mean. Like when you say when
you say superhero, you automatically think Superman. When you say bandage,
you automatically think band aid. You know what I mean,
he's uh, he's very iconic and uh yeah, not, I

(02:33):
mean not, That's not necessarily the reason why I'm so
hype for this movie. I'm not the biggest super Superman fan,
but uh but yeah, he's I've known in my whole
life basically.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah. I think so many generations I've grown up with
Superman in one way or another, right, and now you
have a brand new generation who's this is going to
be their Superman. And I think that's super exciting. And
like Superman, like you said, he is kool Aid, right,
you know what I mean, Like he make me some
kool Aid. You have to be kool Aid brand. But
you know what I'm talking about. You know what I'm saying,

(03:05):
You're gonna need sugar and water and you're gonna need more.
I'm I was really excited about this film going in
because of the track record that James Gunn had and
just his attention to detail, and I think that was
gonna lend well to the shaping of this brand new thing,

(03:29):
which honestly has to be such a gargangeuan undertaking to
leave on the shoulders of of course it's not one man,
but you're the face of it, you know what I mean, Like,
like you're responsible. It's like a Kevin Figay type of
responsibility where it's like we this. If it fails, it's
on your head and that's kinda be But if it succeeds,

(03:51):
it's your victory. So I mean, could you see yourself
be putting in a position like that where you're like,
like you're you are the architect of a universe, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
I think, specifically when it comes to Superman itself, he
didn't have a choice but to make a good movie.
If this movie were to tank, his career would be over.
Like and I'm not even trying to be dramatic, I
truly believe he was already He's already hanging on by
a thread. A lot of these comic book movie directors

(04:22):
are hanging on by threads there, and they get thrown
into the trash can so easily they can get replaced,
and even their replacements get thrown and their careers are over,
you know what I mean. So it's just he had
no choice. He had to make a good heat. The
pressure was certainly on him, and he had to make
an impossible film possible pretty much.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
That's a very good way to put it, and that's
a very good but say, segue into our first talking point,
which is just overall initial thoughts thoughts going in. What
were your thoughts going into this film? Did you did
you have a high expectation based upon that kind of
notion that he could this movie could not fail. So

(05:07):
did you base your expectations on that statement or were
you still kind of low?

Speaker 2 (05:12):
No, I had no expectations, not low. I had no expectations.
I didn't want to go into it expecting something and
being disappointed, which I didn't have to approach it that way,
to be honest, But I'm just so tired of being
let down by the same goofy, cringey, woky political trash
that they insist on putting in all of these movies.

(05:35):
So I like Sonic and Super Mario Brothers, and you know,
I much rather go go that route when it comes
to watching a fun film about something that we like,
because they didn't need to add any of that in
any of those films, you know what I mean. For
some reason, when it comes to human actors acting, we
got to put our two cents in and our personal
struggles in and it's just like it's such a turn off.

(05:57):
So yeah, no expectations. But I also definitely was looking
forward to seeing the movie. The trailer, the very first
trailer alone was enough to be like, okay, like this
this is happening, you know. So it wasn't. I didn't
go in white knuckling it like it better not suck.
I didn't go in like upset already of how disappointed

(06:19):
I was going to be. I just went in and
I went in to watch a movie, and I walked
out very satisfied.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
So, yeah, I'm peeping your swag in the back. You
got some Star Wars stuff back there, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, so it's a Star Wars book.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Actually sweet peeping And I see I see you, Toots,
I see you. Speaking of swag, I I gotta tell you,
I was a little excited for this film, And I
just got to show you that I was just a
little excited.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
For this film.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
That US has a little cape has a little cape.
This is my little super sip. I'm calling them my
super sick. But I gotta tell you I was really
excited for this for I might be a little too
excited for this movie. Okay, this is a popcorn oop.

(07:13):
I just hit the mic. This is a popcorn bucket
and it flips open. You feel stuff with it.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Who is walking into the movie theater with that? Who
is walking in.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Me and my big doofy old ass? Doug?

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Did you really get it filled with popcorn?

Speaker 1 (07:29):
No?

Speaker 2 (07:30):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
I can't eat popcorn in the theater because it makes
my mouth all dry. But but I did get one.
I don't know what I'm gonna fill this with. I'm
probably put jack beans in it.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
So cool fantic.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah, I don't know what I'm gonna do with this thing.
It's like a it's supposed to be like an old timing,
like like a newspaper. Yeah, it's so neat.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
That is awesome.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, man, so I was in for a penny, in
for a pound when it comes to this movie, it's
a long time coming for me. Like I've always wanted
DC Comics to be competitive with Marvel like it was
when I was a kid. Right for every Batman the
animated series, you had the X Men the animated series.

(08:13):
They're both equally good and making each other better. Yeah,
Superman the animated series, Spider Man the animated series, you
know what I'm saying, Like Justice League X Men Evolution,
you know what I mean. It wasn't until like the
movies where things went so left and Marvel just got
this stride that DC could never catch. And this movie

(08:34):
brings back it literally literally brought back the hope that
we can get true competition in this arena and reinvigorate
the superhero genre, you know what I mean. So my
initial thoughts were very high. I had very high expectations because,
like I mentioned earlier, and I've come to know, James

(08:55):
gun to make a good product. Regardless how you feel
about the Man. When he needs to step up, he
steps up. Guardians is an indicator of that. So him
having this gargantuan task, like you said, it's fail proof.
I don't know how many Wizards and black magic scientists
had to work on this to get it as good

(09:16):
as it was. But we'll talk about if it worked
or not. Any last thoughts Toots on initial thoughts before
we move on, uh no on cool beans, cool beings.
So it sounds like we both had tempered expects Well
I didn't have tempered expectations. I was losing my mind,
but it seems like both of our expectations were It
kind of feels like they were they were met in

(09:38):
this film. So yeah, you know what I mean. So
I wanted to say I would certainly say so, yeah,
absolutely before I say anything, man of still the legacy?
What emotions does this image invoke into the Lady Odin? Uh?

Speaker 2 (09:59):
The image of the three Superman?

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah? What does that make you feel? Like? Does it?
Does it give you a nostalgia? Are you like, Man,
I'm so happy these guys are gone? Long lived? Corn sweat?
How do you how does this make you feel when
you see this?

Speaker 2 (10:11):
No? No, Christopher Reeve, Superman's iconic, Like that's that to me?
That's probably the most memorable out of the three. Out
of these three anyway. Yeah, I don't really have any
any any opinion on the other two, serb man, except for, uh,
what's is this Brandon Ralph on this side on the

(10:32):
left side, on the left side. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the
costumes shitty. I didn't realize so shitty the costume.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
It's a really bad.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
I didn't realize it till now.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
I never liked his body, like I didn't like how
the suit fit him, you know, like I never liked it,
you know what I'm saying, Like the cape was kind
of awkward and the s was too small, but.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
That's long, like he just looks like someone stretched it
or I don't know.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah, it's funny, like you look look at these three costumes, right,
and it's like, why is Christopher Reeves the best one?
But it does the less work, you know what I'm saying.
It's like, yeah, it's so simple, but it's so perfect,
you know what I mean, Like how is that possible?
Like how you get worse through time and technology?

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Maybe it's overthinking, overthinking, overcreating too many cooks in the kitchen.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Too many cooks.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Too many cooks. Yeah, yeah, that's what it seems like.
For sure.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
I think this movie had some big shoes to feel because,
like you said, Superman is the Mount Rushmore George Washington
Superhero of all time, right, and it's gonna be a
media event anytime something Superman happens for any genre, may
that be video games, our movies are even audio, Like

(11:52):
Superman's a big deal, and it seems like every time
they do it, it's such a radical difference between what
it's been. Because I look at Brandon Routh which is
kind of like a clone of Christopher Reeve. But then
you have Henry Cavil over here with the Snyder verse,
who's kind of alien, no pun intended to both of

(12:14):
these guys, kind of like modus operendi. But it's still Superman,
you know what I mean in a way. So I
think of like corn Sweat. Actually I'm never gonna say
his name, right, It's gonna call him Corn Sweat, kind
of taking a little bit from each of these Superman
even even the Smallville Superman Tom Whaling. Like, there's a

(12:37):
lot of that in this film. And I think that
there's just like the legacy of Superman hangs over this movie,
but it doesn't overshadow it. This movie kind of shines
through that legacy and adds its own style in flair.
What do you think?

Speaker 2 (12:52):
No, I agree, Yeah, I think that's that's pretty accurate.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
I did see did I remember Brian mentioned.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
I don't know if it was a theory, but he
mentioned that people are considering this movie to be like
the last season of Smallville, and I see a little
bit of that. I do. I do see a little
bit of small Villa in it. Amazing show, small small
Ville small Ville was is goaded for sure. Yeah, what
was your original question.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Kind of what are your thoughts on just the shoes
that this movie had to feel in the in this
such there's not many Hollywood legacies as big as Superman,
you know what I mean. Do you do you think
do you think this movie had that pressure or do
you think gun was just kind of going with the flow?

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yeah? No, I definitely had that pressure. Yeah, there's no
doubt about that. Uh. And the pressure was actually on
the actors as well, like the the heat is on.
The heat was on for that for all of them,
you know. And I think it was a little bit
risky choosing what we would consider no name actors, even
though none of them are None of them are no
name actors are just not prominent in the comic world.

(14:02):
I think he did a whore he started in Horror.
I don't know. I was just kind of looking in
his career and whatnot. So he's had a career, you
know what I mean, So he's not unknown, but still risky.
I mean, they didn't they didn't go with name brands,
you know what I mean, Like and they could have,
but if they would have done that, it wouldn't have worked.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
I think the casting for this movie is absolutely perfect.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
For what it is, but yeah, the pressure was definitely on,
and I do think that he did his homework and
did his due diligence when it comes to, yeah, rolling
all of these different versions of Superman together.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Sure, absolutely very good call out on the casting. I'm
always been a fan of them picking no names for
these iconic heroes because if you recognize the face, it
just takes you out the believability. You know, Hugh Jackman
is a household name now, but when he was Wolverine
back in the day, nobody knew who he was, you
know what I mean, he was just Wolverine. Yeah. The

(14:55):
only time that actually worked where it was a known
face to the character was Michael Keaton with Batman, and
that was backlash because people were like, why is Michael
Keaton playing Batman? That's the worst end up being the best,
you know what I mean. I don't even think Christopher
Reeve had that big of an of a. Was Christopher
We've a superstar before Superman? I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, I have no idea interesting before my.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Time, before our time, speaking of good times, which is
our time now, it's our time to shine. Let's talk
about just to welcome to this new dc DCU. One
thing I love to focus on on movies like this
is the world building in the kind of like color

(15:41):
palette and the lore a multi and lore coming back
soon that is kind of generated in this small amount
of time for this movie. How do you feel they did,
like as a good or bad job in building a
universe that this Superman can live in.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
I think they did a pretty good job at reintroducing, uh,
this part of the DCU. You know that I I
I know that there are there's there's some podcasters, reviewers
out there, the the black pilled nerds as I call them,
who were disappointed in it because they refuse to be

(16:23):
pleased by anything that's out there right now. But with
this being I guess, quote unquote the new DCU, like
I I'll take it. I think it was. I think
it was done well. The fact that they are they
moved three years into him being Superman, three years into

(16:43):
Lex Luthor, uh building the conglomerates that he has built,
you know what I mean? Like it gives us the
indication that this is still all very brand new to
everybody involved. This entire universe is still brand new too
to a superhero. At the same time, this is their universe,
you know what I mean, Like this is normal, this
is a norm for them. So like there is there

(17:06):
is people who are who are complaining about how how
Superman wasn't getting enough respect and how like they treated
this character wrong and blah blah blah. And it's like,
do you not realize, like what world that is? It's
not this one. It's not the one you're sitting in,
you know what I mean? They wake up to floating humans,
we don't, you know, So there's levels to it there.
There is probably a ton of superheroes that they respect

(17:29):
more than Superman. Who how are we to say yes
or no about that, you know what I mean? Like
we we we don't know for sure. But what we
do know is that this is three years in Superman,
still very brand new, still very inexperienced, still very powerful, right,
but still very inexperienced, And and what he's trying to do,

(17:49):
which which brings about controversy, which which brings about controversy.
And I think that is the struggle for most superheroes
is they always get fused in with a villain half
the time, because both are very destructive. Let's let's be honest.
Let's call it what it is. Being a superhero means
potential for destruction. So you know, so there's that. But no,

(18:15):
I think they they folded all of these pieces in
together quite well, you know what I mean, introducing reintroducing
a soft version, a soft open of the new DCU,
and doing it in a decent way. I think that's
what they did.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
I love your call outs. I love the call out
of Superman not being the biggest hero in town just
yet because he's still having to prove himself being so
green at being a superhero. When you mentioned that, it
made me think of the scene where we are first
introduced to the Justice Gang. Shoutouts, Justice Gang. They got
a bigger pop than Superman did when they first showed

(18:54):
up at the scene.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yes, you're right, yeah, hey, it's just this gang.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
You know.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Spoilers are I mean, I'm I mean, is that would
that be considered a spoiler?

Speaker 1 (19:01):
I don't know, but it isn't the trailer. I think
it's okay, all right? Well either way, yeah, Shari for spoilers, spoilers,
don't watch trailers. I love that they air drop us
in the middle of the action, you know what I mean.
We don't have to be bogged down with an origin story,
and this is the Superman's learning how to fly for

(19:24):
the first time. Like it reminds me of like Star Wars,
you know, like remember you know, like in Star Wars,
like The New Hope, you're just air dropped into a situation.
Like there's no prequels, there's no Anakin, there's none of that.
You're just Okay, we're on a spaceship. There's a guy
in a black suit. Enjoy the ride, you know what
I mean. There's no time and everybody knows this origin.

(19:46):
Like there's three superheroes. You could never repeat the origins again,
spider Man, Batman, and Superman. We don't need to hear
it again. So let's so let's just go get into
the action, start building this world. I love that they
mentioned that meta humans have been around for three thousand years,
So yeah, they've been around for as long as we've
been around pretty much, you know what I'm saying. So

(20:09):
it's like, like you said, there's Superman's not hot shit,
Like they see people flying around all day and doing
fantastic stuff. From the beginning of time and Superman is
just a new guy on the block, which which makes
you think, who else are new guys on the block?
Like I'm thinking that Batman is still a myth. I

(20:29):
think he's still the bad of Gotham, you know what
I'm saying. And people are like, Oh, that Batman, that's
not real, you know what I mean, Because there's a
moment of Batman's history where he's a myth, he's legend like,
he's not like solidified as the guardian of Gotham. And
I think that's where Batman is right now. He's I
think Batman's just as green as Superman is right now.
My my nerd tinfoil hat like what's going on in

(20:52):
the DCU. But I like that this movie gets you
excited for what that could be, you know what I mean.
I think it's super interesting. Yep, I agree, absolutely exciting
things coming. I think super Girl comes out next year.
Did you see that that Supergirl's coming out next year?

Speaker 2 (21:12):
I a still saw that He's trying to strike while
the iron's hot with Wonder Woman, which I truly hope
he doesn't do.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
You want to hold that off, You want to hold
that off.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Why, Like, what is he? What is he?

Speaker 3 (21:23):
What is he trying to do here?

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Nobody wants a rushed wonder Woman movie. Please, for the
love of God.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Yeah, take your time, take your time. But one thing
he has said is that if the script isn't right,
we're not moving forward. That's his big thing. We're not
even gonna green light it if the script isn't right.
So I don't think he's just gonna take any old script,
you know.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Director, That's that's what every director ship is the script's
not right. Yeah, don't fucking do the movie.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
A lot of directors don't do that. This is what
this is how we got Batman versus Superman.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
That's the problem. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
You know. So spoilers ahead for Superman. Before we jump
into spoilers, what are your non spoiler feelings about this movie?
How did you before? Just so we can give someone
a taste of what we're thinking without spoilers, what are
your non spoiler thoughts on this movie?

Speaker 3 (22:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
That's a very weird question. Actually, it's a good movie. Like,
I'm not really sure what you're asking.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Sorry, I'll go What I mean is, without spoiling anything,
I think this is a great film. I think that
James Gunn did an amazing job reinvigorating the spark of
superhero movies and bringing back Superman, who was a tell
as old as time. He's about to be one hundred
years old, I think next year or something like that.
So to make that feel fresh and to make it

(22:48):
feel relatable, I keep saying, Garcanguline, it's a giant task,
and I think that he did a good job. Is
this movie perfect? No, But I think it's better than
in some of its parts, and it does what it
needs to do, which is create a universe for all
these other directors and all these other creators and actors
to build in that sandbox. So I think this is

(23:10):
a really good film. Saw I twice, kind of want
to see it a third time. I recommend absolutely.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Everything you said, book them, Dano. Let's get into spoilers.
Let's get into spoilers, Toots, would you give us the
honors in giving us an overall genre overall idea of
the plot for this Superman film?

Speaker 2 (23:40):
All right, So the overall plot for the film. There
there is outlined things in the movie, like there's there's
U this war happening between two different countries Jupeah and Brabia.
Forgot what it's called to be honest, I don't even
know if they're real countries because I'm ignorant. I'm a
soft brain, no American. So you know, they could be
really could not be. We'll look it up later. But yeah,

(24:02):
so these two countries are going are at war. Superman
ends up putting a stop to the war initially, and
it turns out that's really controversial, like why are you
doing that? That's not our business, blah blah blah. So
it turns out that Lex Luthor, because of course Lex
Luthor's in the movie because you know, uh, Lex Luthor

(24:22):
is the one behind the war going on. He's funding
both sides. Basically in the movie, Oh no, good job,
James Don And but uh what what ends up happening?
What ends up like being the the soul the soul
crushing uh. Part of this movie basically is that Superman
finds out that a message that he would uh listen

(24:45):
to on a repeat from his real parents, his Kryptonian parents,
was a message of love and hope and peace and
and it turns out his parents and at the end
of the message, which was lost in translation and whatnot,
and lex Luthor happened to be able to translate it finally,
and so it's put out in the media that the

(25:06):
message is actually actually encourages Superman to build a harem,
and he calls or they call earthlings simple and kind
of dumb, and you know, so it's just the exact opposite,
you know. They they they basically are telling him that
he's he's on Earth to enslave the human race. So,
you know, the immediately everybody believes it, they all pretty

(25:29):
much turn on Superman. So he ends up turning himself
into the US government. Upon doing so, he finds he
figures out because they sent him to a pocket universe
that Lex Luthor created. Not not my favorite part of
the of the movie. Not not not my favorite part
of the movie. But where else where else were they
gonna put him, you know what I mean? Or else

(25:52):
were they gonna put him? So so, yeah, so that happens, Yes,
he does escape. To me, one of the better scenes
in the movie, and again we're doing spoilers now, there
is an amazing, most fascinating character to me in the
entire film is Metamorpho, the elemental Man between him and

(26:14):
mister Terrific, I don't know who I enjoyed seeing more.
But there is a scene where Lex Luthor is trying
to get information from Superman, but really he's just torturing him,
and he brings in a stranger, just a stranger that
Superman passes by. They have this sort of high by relationship,
and this guy ends up rescuing Superman in a sense

(26:34):
where he tries to get him out of rubble after
being thrown into cement like blah blah blah. So you
know he a Lex Luthor brings this guy in. He
ends up shooting him in the head right in front
of Superman's eyes, and Metamorphos there to basically kill Superman
slowly as his hand turns into kryptonite. So while that happens,
Metamorpho watches the whole thing and he just starts breaking

(26:56):
down in tears. And to me, that's one of the
best scenes of the movie because it gives you an
idea that you're not always looking at what you're seeing,
Like we see this villain right in him, and it
turns out he's the softest, hardest, most empathetic being in
the movie, and it's just It's just a really touching scene.

(27:17):
While there's heartbreak happening, it's like, oh shit, this guy.
Get a load of this guy. He's crying, what's coming
on over here? And you know, and so you know,
in the end, you know, he does end up helping
Superman get out of the Pocket Universe, which he in
soo facto does get out of the Pocket Universe and everything,
you know, things happen, you know, things start happening. The
Just Justice Gang go down and and make peace at

(27:39):
the border of these two countries, and all is right
with the world when it comes to that, and again
there's a lot of action happening. I'm just trying to
I'm just trying to like narrow it down and pin
it down there. Lex Luthor and Lex Luthor and Superman
scenes are absolutely insane. The chemistry between the two characters
is really cool. Obviously, the character the chemistry between Lois
Lane and Art Kent's absolutely just just captivating. You know,

(28:03):
it's your mesmerized, You're you're hypnotized by You're watching every
move and listening to every word. The relationship between him
and his parents seems so genuine. Even when he's talking
to them miles away from the phone. You can hear
how bothered he is that that they called, but he
answered anyway, And it's just it's just such a beautiful,
very endearing movie. And mister Terrific kicks ass to me.

(28:28):
Mister Terrific took the entire movie.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Yeah, a thousand percent. Mister Terrific stole every scene he
was in. One thing I love about this movie and
its plot is I love the growth of Clark Kent.
I love that he starts off the film very cat,
very headshore, and almost very naive in that I'm doing

(28:51):
the right thing, so it has to be right, whereas
Lois Lane and the other have is saying, no, what
you did to have political ramifications that are called that
you've you're excited war? Well, no, I just did the
right thing. But you're not. You're not hearing her, you
know what I mean? Like she's trying to She's telling
him what what he needs to hear. And that's that's
actually one of my favorite scenes of the film is

(29:11):
where Lois Lane is inter is interviewing Clark kent't ask Superman,
and she's It's so cool because you get to know
who Lois Lane is and how fervorished she is about
the truth and about perspective, and it's so Lois Lane.
That's like, I don't care who you are. If i'm
if I'm on, You're gonna get it and I'm gonna

(29:32):
get the answers I need. And she's asking in questions
like so where did your ship land? You know, I'm
never gonna tell you that, dude.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Like then he starts getting annoyed, you know what I mean,
with her foracious appetite for information, And she's like, well, no,
you did you talk to the president of the United States?
Did you talk to the president of Bravia? Did you
talk to No? No, no, no, no, I just did it.
Do you see how bad that is? Because you know,
everyone sees you as a representative of the U. He's like,

(30:00):
I'm not representing anyone but me, you know.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
And that's the thing. She's not bitching at him. She's
telling him what's up. She's telling him you can't act
that way here, bro, you know what I mean? Yeah,
and think about it, like, let's okay, think about it realistically.
If that was the real world, I'd be terrified if
we had superheroes who were who were actively involving themselves

(30:23):
and wars and whatnot. Terrified because I mean, at the
at the end of the movie, I don't know who
this dude is. I don't know if he's like the
Secretary of war or whatever, but he's a government official
and there and they said he's sarcasting. He tells them
something like, way to go, we just gave all the
control of the meta meta humans something something to that
effected like and as soon as he's sound like, oh

(30:44):
oh shit, yeah no that's not good, like that's not good.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
That's that's terrible again, you know.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Then then there's the other side, Well, government screws us
over and this and that. But it's like the I
don't know, it's hard to say, I I I either
I let I let h I either we're cool with
the president and CIA and all the tinfoil hat stuff
or Fanos does this exactly? I mean, which which one

(31:10):
do you prefer?

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Right?

Speaker 2 (31:12):
You know? So, yeah, it's that's it's just wild. It's
just a wild thing to think about. But Lois Lane
was absolutely right.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
There's a scene where right after that scene, I think
it's the scene where next Luthor is pitching his team
Luther what is it called, Like like like world world Trade.
That's horrible. No. Like he's pitching his uh supervillain group
to apprehend Superman and one of the guys is like, so,
what's your plan. You're just gonna go round up all

(31:41):
the matter humans. That's not gonna work. He's like, no,
just the ones that are actively injecting themselves into political theater.
All the other meta humans are smart enough not to
do that. You know, they understand political boundary in working
within the system where Superman is so I hate to
say naive, but he's honestly naive. He's a young super Man.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
He's a young Superman exactly, and.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
He doesn't know how to move in this arena yet.
And you see him learn from his mistakes based upon
his the government, the government outcry and the kind of
like the world view of him, like you said, it
shifts all the time in this movie. People are kind
of wishy washy about him, but he's the people's champ.

(32:24):
And then that video comes out with his parents telling
him the hashtag superhero you know what I mean, and
people are like, no, booz, Superman, I hope he burns,
and hell, I think one kid said and then and
then he kind of has to deal with that, like
everything I know is wrong kind of feeling.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Well, okay, let let's let's parentheses this real quick.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Yeah, people were not saying these things on their internet,
Lex Luthor crewit. Remember the whole monkeys typewriters literally, James
Gunn what the heck? He literally had a scene of
rows and rows of monkeys on typewriters being trolls on
the Internet. So, yes, humans were not writing these things
about about Superman, but they were being influenced by the
things being written on the Internet about Superman. That is

(33:05):
certainly true.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Hashtag super shit, hastag, super shit, hastag, supers he hates
the way.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yeah, the people didn't necessarily turn on him. They were
kind of convinced to turn on him. It's it's just,
you know, Lex Luly, just use the power of the internet,
power of social media. That was that was for sure.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Displayed absolutely and I love that. At the end of
the day was Superman versus s lextuthorp, which is supposed
to be right, and a lot of these movies it's
always the hero fighting a dark mirror of themselves. What
Superman does do in this movie, but it's not the
main villain. You know, black Panther has to fight kill Marker,
which is just another Black Panther, you know what I mean.

(33:47):
Like I hate that in movies where it's like the
Flash has to fight another speed Stir, you know. No,
it was brains versus braun. It was Thor you know,
like out maneuvering Superman and on multiple levels with his
mind and his money to keep Superman like off the
on the back foot, you know what I mean, and

(34:08):
constantly not knowing what to do and how to feel.
And it took him listening to his parents, his real parents,
to kind of get his head straight and say, Okay,
this is why I do what I do, which gave
him then the kind of the fervor to win the day,
you know what I mean, and kind of take over things.
The political side of things in this movie I think

(34:30):
was a little heavy handed, if not heavy handed, because
it's a very real world conflict that's happening now that
they're kind of alluding to in this movie. And like
you said, the interjection of superheroes is highly terrifying, you
know what I mean, in real world application, because no

(34:51):
man should have that much power, you know to quote yay,
And if you have just a problem solver out there
is doing what they want to do. That's an uncontrolled substance.
That is a that's a that's a weapon of mass
destruction just floating around the.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Weapon of mass destruction. Yep, yikes.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
And there's nothing that can change that.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
And the only thing that can change has a power
of influence. That's the terrifying part. That's the terrifying part.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
And that was less answer with the power of influence exactly.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Hey, but let's let we'll say this, uh, superman, It truly, truly,
genuinely thought he was doing the right thing. He never
made a decision. I mean no, I can't say never.
He did make decisions egotistically because he wants to look good,
he especially after the thing with his parents came out,
But he didn't he made worse decisions before all, before

(35:44):
all that controversy with what with his parents calling out
the harem and and and enslave the human race and
blah blah blah. He made much careful, calculated decisions after that.
So while his ego was hurt, he didn't let that
consume him in any way, shape or form. He just
said I gotta tell you one step at a time,
and then you know, and then the Justice Gang came

(36:05):
in and you know, helped him in their ways and
then yeah, just yeah, just remarkable stuff.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
That's part of the growth I'm talking about, Like, yeah,
he had to take a step back. I need to
turn myself in to de escalate the situation. Yeah, right,
mature thing to do. We didn't know lex was gonna
go left to do the most petty things humanly possible,
but at Superman, that's outside of Superman's control, you know
what I mean, which led to him getting sent to
the Pocket universe with the Goat himself metamorpho, you know

(36:35):
what I mean? In Lexis X because she wrote a
bad blog about him, she got sent to the Shadow dimension.
Lex is so petty, dude.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Like, yeah, he's such a brat.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
I want to talk about.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah, they are the same age, by the way, it's
very implied that they're they're just as young as each other.
So the pettiness, the brattiness, it's all expected for somebody
who I would guess maybe in their.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Mid twenties, maybe late twenties.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Late twenties, maybe mid to late twenties. Yeah, and it's
so Smallville, you know what I mean, Because those two
have always been at odds with each other, you know
what I mean, always been butting heads, which is why
he doesn't really like Clark Kent. He's like, maybe I'll
get that other reporter, that's that reporter that you always
interview with. Maybe I'll go kill Kark Clint next, because

(37:24):
thank goodness, he doesn't know Superman's identity. I don't want
this Alex knowing Superman's identity ever, because that's a terrifying notion.
But giving him that bit of information, Let's talk about
the heroes and villains of this movie, starting with let's
say the titular villain, Lex Luthor. Before seeing this movie,
my little cousin asks me what makes Lex Luthor formidable

(37:46):
to Superman? And I have to think about it for
a second. I'm like, on paper, it's not a hard
it's a hard cell. Superman being the power of a god,
can fly through cities, laser beam oceans dry versus this
human right, But then this movie does a great Chold
has a great example of what makes Lex Duthor so

(38:07):
powerful in his way. He's he's methodical, he's conniving, he's petty.
He's hyper intelligent, he's resourceful, and he's persistent, you know
what I mean. There's there's a there's a reoccurring thing
in this movie where Superman's getting zass whooped for a
good majority of the movie by Ultraman here, and You're like,

(38:30):
that doesn't feel good. Why Superman losing is because Lex
luthor has hired a team of geniuses and studied all
of Superman's fighting moves to where there's calling cheater plays
into Ultraman to know exactly what Superman's gonna do before
he does it, and constantly have him on the back
foot and just beat him every single time. And I'm like,

(38:51):
that's such a Lex duthor thing to do, you know.
And It's like, under normal circumstances, Superman will probably have
the upper hand. But when someone's putting in tea codes,
like actual tea codes to win it, and you're fighting
someone who's is equally as strong issue in Ultrauman, it

(39:12):
makes things a bit tough for Big Blue here. What
are your thoughts on Lex Duthorne how he was portrayed
in this film.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
I thought he would perfect. I thought he did a
really really good job. Like I said, I know there's
some people who who didn't like it, and I know
some people are like, oh, it's borderline cringe. I don't
think so. I think it was done well. He he
kind of reminds me another one of my favorite actors.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
He kind of reminds me if Tom Cruise were to.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Play Lex Luthor at that age, that's exactly how Tom
Cruise would play it. That's a good that's how That's
how I think this actor did as Lex Luthor. I
agree with you. The only and he Lex calls it
out himself, the only way that he was ever going
to be Superman is brain over brawn, Like he knows
that that's the only formula he he has to work

(39:59):
with when it comes to him and his And the
pettiness comes from this, just the pettiness of hating him,
and he's just jealous, that's it. It's nothing more than
that he didn't kill his brother. He didn't. There's nothing,
there's nothing like, there's nothing real or concrete to solidify
and affirm this hatred. It's just sheer, immature jealousy that

(40:24):
apparently never ever goes away, ever goes away that that
I mean, So to think about it a sixty seven
seventy year old Lex Luthor right, still justice petty. I
would expect him to act this way at this age.
He is a full blown brat, but very professional, but
a brat. He threw away a girlfriend into a Pocket

(40:45):
universe because she wrote something bad about him. His second girlfriend,
he threw into it because she was taking selfi's and
sending him to another dude. That one, I get, yeah,
that one.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
But she had a coming. She had a comment No.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Oh that's funny, but yeah, so uh he was. He
was portrayed very well. This is a very well rounded,
in my opinion, well rounded Lex Luthor somewhat origin story.
He's already established, but not established enough. He's already figured
out how and when and who and what he needs

(41:19):
to do to beat Superman, but has obviously hasn't figured
it out enough. It's just perfectly done, and it's very
timely for for that character for that age.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Absolutely, and he's almost defeated by his own hubrious, isn't
he you know what I mean? Like he knew Crypto existed, right,
he knew Crypto was a was a player on the field,
but he was just so into a one A one
A one like he was so into he was like
he got tunnel vision. It didn't realize that Superman was

(41:51):
playing forty chests too, you know what I mean, And
was like, Okay, this is how I turned the tables
on Lex Luthor. And I think about all of the
just portrayals of Lexduthor throughout the years, Michael Rosenbaum, which
I think app is up there with this Lexduthor as
like top two Nextuth thor Is of all time. You know,

(42:12):
like I'll probably go Michael, this guy, and then like
maybe Gene Hackman in regards to like live action portrayals
of Lexduthor and Michael and this guy are like like
depends on how I feel, because I think this portrayal
of the character was so strong and like you said,
and at first I thought it was a little cringey.
I thought he was a little overly animated, but not

(42:34):
for that age. We got to remember that these are
young versions of these characters and that he's gonna be
over excited and he's gonna be at his most hateris
one of the funniest memes I'm seeing going around is
that I love the movie Superman because it showed me
that I'm not as big as a hater as I
could be. And it's just a picture of Lex Duthor
raging into the screen when Superman breaks out of the

(42:56):
the Cosmic Jail, and it's like, yeah, Lex would be
fuming if that happen. How did my perfect plan go awry?
How is he doing it? I hate Superman so much.
There's even like a moment where he's in the Fortress
of Solitude and he's like, you know what, I can't
stand meta humans, but I really hate Superman. Super Man,

(43:17):
like I just hate everything about him, Like I hate
how his strengths. But did you say I hate how
your strength amplifies our weakness? You know what I mean?
Like you just hate everything he stands for. Superman's like
what did I do? That's all? You know what I mean?
Like Superman's always like what did I do? What am
I doing wrong? You know what I mean? And it's
just like shut up, die, shut up and die. You know.

(43:41):
Superman's kind of like I don't know what to do bad.
I'm just gonna keep doing what I'm supposed to be doing.
And that's the relationship.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
That's the right.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Heye, lets Lex live, you don't have to, but he's
just like, hey, you know no, He's like, he's like,
you no harm, buddy, Like you know what I mean,
He's just like he just letting bygones be bygones, you know, And.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
That probably frustrates Lex even more, you know what I mean,
because nothing's worse than when you're mad at someone and
they don't give it to your back, you know what
I mean. Lex is sober.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Superman's he's Superman's just teaching him a lesson, like a
very long lesson.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
The longest lesson of all time. Just chill out, bro,
we could be you know how crazy the world would
be if we were just friends, you know.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
And it's so funny because you see evidence of that
in this movie. He's talking to Elektra is that her name? No,
what's her? That's not Electra? The engineer, the engineer, the engineer,
and he's like, you don't have to do this. He's
like they're actively fighting each other.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
He's like, you know, you don't have to be this
way anymore.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Blah blah blah. He's like literally trying to talk morally
support her while they're fighting each other. He's trying to
give her therapy, and he does it with Ultra Man too,
you know what I mean, Like he's actively trying to
convince these people you can be better than this while
they're beating him up. So this is a thing that
Superman is. He's just a walking talking Bible. He's a

(44:57):
walking talking book of good news, you know. So it's
just that's so annoying. If I was lex, I would
hate him too. It's very annoying.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
It's the Spider Man effect, right, It's like, don't whoop
my ass and then give me words of affirmation. That's funny,
you know what I mean. Like Spider Man's talking shit
the whole fight, so it frustrates you. I hate this guy.
How is he winning? I hate Spider Man. Where it's
like Superman. It's like, you know, if you bush your
teeth twice a day, you have a you have a
shining grin like me, you'll relaxed. Doug, I'm trying to
kill you. You know, there's other ways to do this, you know, self.

(45:30):
You know, self help starts within. Shut up, Superman, You're
gonna die.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
You know exactly what he did too. It's it's pretty adorable.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Actually, Yeah, Like there's a cow that.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
We're talking about. It it's like, oh shit, that's pretty cute.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
And that's why he hates him so much, Like I
hate you, Doug, You're the worst. While there's a giant
kaiju you destroyed the city, he saves a single squirrel.
That's Superman. That is like you said. Black peeled nerds
are so mad at that scene where they don't truly
understand the character, like, no, that's Superman. He saved kittens
from trees, dude, and.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
They were upset that he was. It was just they
were to me.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
There.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Now they're the ones somewhat out of touch or they're
just refusing to to like they want Superman to solidify,
to solidify and get sorry for the term, but I
don't have another one. But they want him to get
rock hard and they don't want him to do anything
else but be this.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
And.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
It's like you're never it'll never happen, like stay black
pilled and then you know mayor you know, good luck
with your podcast when nobody is when people get tired
of your opinion because it's not divided in my opinion
about this movie. I think more people like this movie
than don't. So the black pill nerds are even having
to say.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
If you like it, then you like it, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
So they're even having to admit that there is some
good things going on, and for for them to have
to admit that, then it just tells me, well, no,
it was a good movie. Yeah, Like you guys are
literally actively looking for things wrong in it, wrong with
it for whatever reason. The squirrel scene, what's the big deal, dude?
I think it was silly, But like you said, it
goes back to the character of Superman. It's not silly

(47:10):
for Superman to save a squirrel because he can do literally.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Anything in real time.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
You know what in real time?

Speaker 1 (47:17):
You know what's sad tutes is that even the even
the toxic nerds don't agree with each other because they
all see Superman in a different way in their own mind.
So if it's not exactly what they want, they rage
out and they don't even agree with each other because
they all see him differently, because he's one hundred year
old character who's been portrayed a thousand different ways. So
it's like, embrace new, embrace different, embrace fresh, like you

(47:42):
know what I mean. Because there's a whole generation of
Superman of Superman fans who grew up with the Snyder verse,
and that's their Superman, and you know, God willing for them.
But that's not the only Superman. There were Superman before
and they are Superman after, and this is after, you
know what I mean? And if you truly love the character,
you grow the character, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (48:02):
I agree one thousand percent. I agree. I agree with that,
and especially because I mean, I'm not sure what exactly
I don't know if they want more flips. I don't
know what exactly you want in a plot like this.
It's a comic book movie. They're all gonna be pretty weak.
Bad guy comes, good guy, comes got bad guy, beat
defeats good guy.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
Good guy then overcomes bad guy movie and it's all
the same.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
What more do you want?

Speaker 1 (48:27):
What do you like? How?

Speaker 2 (48:29):
How how much more depth in a plot that we
know is gonna happen to? Like?

Speaker 3 (48:34):
How what do you want out of it?

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Like? How how far deep do we have to? Like?
That's what I'm saying, Like, where.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Do you know?

Speaker 2 (48:39):
What do you want?

Speaker 1 (48:40):
They don't know.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Because when they finally have something good, they still want
to bitch and complain about it when they have something bad.
I mean, how would that not confuse you as a
writer director, you know what I mean. Well, they didn't
like it, so now, well let's just go back to
the old formula and do these bullshit movies again. That
was easier. You know what it is like, it will
never win, it'll never happen where everybody he wants the
same thing.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Not anymore.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
And the sad thing is is that, like you said,
these directors, if you can'tant directors and actors, directors and
filmmakers went through a stage where they actually listened to
what we were saying and made adjustments based upon the
common you know, seitgeist. Right, But now they're learning that
we don't know what we want, so they're not listening
to us at all anymore, right at all. And they're like,

(49:23):
we can't listen to you because you guys don't know
what you want, and we're never gonna make you happy.
So we're just gonna make ourselves happy, you know what
I mean. We're gonna we're gonna make what we feel
in our hearts is the best thing.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
We're gonna liign our pockets with money, and we're gonna
call it a day with these films. That's what that's
why they've been putting out trash because it's just money making.
You're gonna go watch it anyway. I'm gonna make what
the hell I want. And and they and they, and
they phone it in. And if they don't phone it in,
they they get these bottom dollar people who have no
idea what they're talking about, one clue as to what

(49:55):
what even what's a comic book, you know what I mean?
And so that's why they that's why this stuff develops
the way it does. And it's just it's it's sad
because I this movie, like it's I don't I don't
know about like awards and all that. Maybe not, but
it's not. Also it's not what it's not what we've
been getting. So like what That's what I'm saying, Like,

(50:16):
I'm just so confused as to what more people people
could want, you know, I can't think of one thing
more that this movie could have provided that would have
made it a better, a better film. The only reason
why I give it the score that I do when
we get there is because of the just because of James,
the James gun things, the James gun thingies that that

(50:36):
are in it. And it's not even that big of
a deal.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
It's just who cares. Let James Gunn do do James
gun ship.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
It's okay, James gunn. Have you seen that hashtag hashtag
the gun is loaded, hashtag reloading the gun. Have you
seen that floating around where people are like, yo, he's
reloading the gun. Gu n n the gun. The gun
was not full of blanks. The gun is ready to go,
and people are like excited about this movie, you know
what I mean? And it's only like the stupid fat

(51:05):
nerds who don't want to let go of their ideas
that find holes in something that is not perfect. Nothing
is perfect, nothing on earth is perfect. The last perfect
thing died for our sins. Yo, bars but geeksh but

(51:26):
but this movie, Like you said, I can't think of
anything I would add to this film that would make
it better. The only thing I would do is subtract
things that I think would.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
Make you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
With that, let's get into our final verdict. You want
would you like to go first, Toots on your final verdict?
Or would you like me to go first?

Speaker 3 (51:47):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (51:48):
But before that, I want to say we didn't touch
on on any of the other heroes. Again, we briefly
mentioned mister Terrific. You guys have got to watch the movie.
Misterrific has the best scene in the movie, right in
the middle of it, with the best song ever. So
like I went home singing the song like for like
this whole weekend. It's so good. So highly recommend you

(52:10):
watch the movie for that scene alone, mister Terrific. I
don't remember the actor's name. I think it's Ellie oh
Eddie Godai. I don't remember, but you know, no disrespect,
but he killed it. He absolutely rocked it. I want
to see more and more and more, mister Terrific for sure. Okay,
so yeah, I'll go first, so I'm not going to
prolong it. Like I said, the movie was excellent. The

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movie far exceeded any expectation I probably would have given
it anyway.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
I love that I saw it twice.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
I would not mind actually seeing it again because it
was it was like good, it's so funny. Watching the
second time was a thousand times better than watching it
the first time. Honestly, it really was. I got to
enjoy the colors, you know, the first time. I'm watching
it to study it, so I'm not really paying attention
to everything. I'm paying attention to the things that, you know,
that I feel like I needed to at the time.
Second time I got to watch it more relaxed again,

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this movie is absolutely vibrant. The uh Fortress of Solitude
was beautiful. The sounds, oh my goodness, it was. It
was all detailed, it was. It was so gorgeous. Crypto,
it wasn't that bad. He wasn't that bad. And as
as a character himself, I did not I did not

(53:22):
like him. I did not hate him. He was adorable though,
to say the least. And the CJ, like I said,
not bad. Some I was highly convinced in some scenes
he was kind of a real dog, you know. So yeah,
good stuff, very good stuff. So my founal verdict for
this film are we what are we doing? Four out
of five?

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Eight, let's say fours.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
Let's go all right, that's a okay, you gotta go watch.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
The movie watch, so yeah, yeah, for sure, four out
of five. That's what I'm giving it a four out
of five. Actually, like I said, hell yeah, like I said,
like you said, actually, I don't want anything. The only
thing that could have made it better is the very
few tiny James Gunn scenes. The actual this was written

(54:09):
by James Gunn, the actual those scenes, those probably could
have been tapered down a little bit. Other than that, Man,
it's a great movie.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
I'm so happy that you like this movie. You know
what I'm saying, Like, I'm so happy that you enjoyed
it because this is this is MLTN, this is Mike
g coded this film. You know, this is I wish
I was I was ten years old watching this movie.
It's one of those it's like it's like Sam Raimi
Spider Man seeing it for the first time. You know
what I mean. It's it's to you R T L

(54:38):
E Power, you know, it's it's watching the TV. It's
Turtles again. Hashtag random select that was excellent. I'm not
gonna like you said, I want to drag this out.
I'm giving this a four point five out of five,
almost the perfect.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Score, almost a perfect score. That's wow.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
I love this movie. I've been thinking about it as
i've seen it. I've been dreaming of the future of
this whole franchise. I'm excited for the competition it's gonna
provide for Marvel. I'm beauty. I'm interested to see what
characters like, I want to see the flash of this world.
How colorful and beautiful is that gonna be? Like you said,
wonder Woman is coming down the pipe, Batman like, I

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love DC, like honestly.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Supergirl, Supergirl. Kind of hype for Supergirl too.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Yeah, she was in this movie. The color is the world,
the lived inness of it, Oh, the one you know.
And you asked me, Mike, why the point five? What?
What was it? Honestly I felt that there were certain
scenes that dragged a little bit. The time in the
Pocket universe is a little long in the tooth for me,

(55:46):
kind of Superman being out of the way. There's certain
gunzoms that kind of annoyed me a little bit. Yeah,
but like you said, you gotta let the cook cook, right,
He's gonna do his thing. So and like you said,
these are small gripes. These aren't like score breaking issues

(56:07):
that I'm having with. It's like little things I would
have shortened. Like I said, there's nothing I would add
to this movie. This movie doesn't need Batman, it doesn't
need wonder Woman, it doesn't need a giant event to happen.
It just needed Superman to be hopeful and and smile
and just be a beacon of strength and love and
that's what he was. And I'm just so excited for

(56:28):
the future, Like that's all I can think about. I
just want I want more, and it's like I feel
like I feel like Tyrone Bighams, you got any more
of them Superman movies?

Speaker 3 (56:35):
I want more.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
I want more of this for sure, without a doubt.
I want more of this, Like.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
Yeah, the future is so bright. I gotta wear shades,
mlt in shades, ladies and gentlemen. We're getting a sweepstakes
coming up soon, giveaway.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Gotta work the kinks out on that one, but yes, yes,
hopefully soon.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
Yeah you want to go into plugs, plug plug plus
I do.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
Let's do it. So catch us this Friday night and
every Friday night on YouTube at six pm, very very live,
very very live. Me, mister Mike g and mister b
Wash will be there. We'd love chatting with you guys.
So the more the merrier. The party gets longer and
longer every time we do a stream, and we love that.
We love to just have you guys with us. It

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really really kicks off our weekends every single time, and
it's a highlight of our weeks. To be honest, Molten
figured it out. Saturday Night's eight PM. That is Mike
G's one six scale collectible shows. I know you guys
can see them behind him. They are absolutely breathtaking. Show
is well worth the watch, highly recommend and it's also live,
so a lot of us are in the chat while

(57:42):
Mikey does his thing. I like asking him questions. I
like yell and get him when his audio is bad.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
It's all audio. Pray for this episode. If you hear this,
I went well. If you didn't hear this. If you
did hear this, hashtag bad audio.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
Oh brother. Lastly, mo otn Lore, Masters of the Nerdiverse
Lore is coming back. We have done the due diligence
of AI selecting well. AI has done the due diligence
of selecting our next few that you guys are actually
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it that way. I'm not positive, but either way, they
will be selected at random. There's a handful of them

(58:22):
that I personally can't wait to do. Willie Wanka's golden
ticket is probably high up there. I can't wait to
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So keep an eye out for that motn lore. The
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What is the Instagram handle is at Masters of the
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(58:46):
up with us. And those are our plans.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
We would shorten that, but it would destroy our search
engine optimization, so you have to deal with it. I'm
sorry it was created at a different time. I apologize.
And the humble two dy oding for got to plug
herself to these toy boxes. Going live tonight, I'm I'm
supposed to go.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
I'm supposed to do it tonight, but since we're gonna
air this tomorrow, I'm going on tonight for sure. Yes,
tonight being tomorrow, because my eyes are killing me right now.
I don't know if I'm gonna be able to do
it tonight.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
But yes, please follow her channel. She's doing the job.
She do it, she do it, I'd be I do
be doing it. She didn't do it though, follow her.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Follow me find me on Twitch at two d dot
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Speaker 1 (59:36):
Feed money into her cash apps, so you can you
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model kit. Addiction, baby thieves, do it? Do it?

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Do it?

Speaker 1 (59:51):
Do it? Do it? Uh. This has been a very
fun episode. I just jacked up my throats, so gona
ended here at the hour mark. Thank you everyone for
watching m O T and Reviews. What the what the
next m O T and Review movie will be? We
don't know. It may be an old classic like My
Demon Lover, or it may be a movie like Fantastic For.
It all depends on what I can get these people

(01:00:12):
to watch with me.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
See Fantastic For.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Slip that in there, you see, I'll slip that in there.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
It'll definitely be Fantastic For.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
I've of course been your host, Mike g I'm gonna
get my Demon Lover one of these days. It's gonna happen.
Spooky Doors, It's gonna happen. Thank you so much for watching.
You're an angel. Thank you for accompanying me on this journey.
M O T. It's been fun. It's been very fun.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
M O T N To the Masters of the bost