January 3, 2026 • 59 mins
w/Jesse Rutstein and Caleb Dyer
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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(01:13):
It is Saturday, our first show of the new year
at twenty twenty six. It is a January third. Welcome everybody,
and of course I am not alone.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Jenny John.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Best morning, sun ste Good morning. Yes, Jenny is here
of course at the news table account and joining us. Yes, yes,
Happy new Year everybody and joining us in studio. Let's see,
we've got Jesse Rutstein and Caleb dy Aer here from
of course uh Hatchet Axe and Saw Records.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Hey guys, Hello, Hello, Hello. I learned how to.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Say the name of your label without tripping over it.
See I did my homework this time.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Just too many syllables.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah, yeah, welcome back. It's good to see you. Although
you know, unfortunately under some uh troubling circumstances, because of
the what happened recently in Nashua, we should probably uh
should probably talk about should we talk about that first?
And I know there's another part to it we might
circle back to at the end, but but you know,
(02:18):
I'm sure people are tuning in wanting to know uh
more about what happened and then the aftermath and how
you're moving forward through that.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
And uh, yeah, it's been it's it's been a crazy
end to twenty twenty five for us.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, sorrowing.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Yeah, last time we were here, we were talking about
getting getting rolling with H and S and uh and
we're still rolling.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, oh yeah, some minor setback.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Train slowed down a little bit a little bit. Yeah, Yeah,
it's uh, you know, we're we're making the best of it.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
We're doing what we can.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
So for the for those who don't know what happened exactly,
I mean, obviously there was a there was a fire, so.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
There it's two streets Ash Street.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
There was a apartment complex that caught fire, and there's
rumors I don't want to get into like rumors of
how it all happened, But what ended up happening was
that fire, which absolutely destroyed this apartment building spread over
to the warehouse where Tree Streets Inc. Was located. Tree
Streets Inc. Is the studio that Hatchet accident saw works
(03:27):
out of Okay, and it's where we, you know, keep
all of our equipment.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
It's where we do all the recording.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
My record was supposed to last time we were here,
we were talking about my record dropping on December seventeenth,
and obviously that didn't happen. So the fire spread over
to the warehouse and it like was you know, engulfed
in flames. It was a big story and it was
just pretty it's it's just pretty crazy. I was literally
(03:57):
down in the studio until about two i am the.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Day of, or the night before the fire.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
Yeah, working on the title track of the record, and.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I literally wrapped on it.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
I couldn't wait to call Caleb and say, hey, it's done,
ready for you, ready for you to step in, ready
to master.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
And I went home around two in the morning.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
I had been working all day and I got the
call a couple hours later from somebody else that used
to work in the studio. And it was six thirty
in the morning, and this is a true story, six
thirty in the morning. And I answered the phone and
I'm like, I said to this kid something, something better
be on fire if you're calling this early. And he goes,
(04:45):
I really wish you didn't say that. And then we
get to the scene. I got I got to the scene.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
You called me.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
I called Caleb, and when I got there, I just
I just watched everything.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Everything was on fire. Like it.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
It's a weird expression that we use all the time.
Everything's on fire, right right, you know, but everything's everything
was on fire. I had worked so hard, we had
all worked so hard at this record Superhero Toys that
was supposed to drop on December seventeenth. Yeah, and everything
was on fire. And I call Kale. I'm like, I
(05:25):
don't get down here. I don't know what to do.
First thing we did was round up the people that
we knew might have been in the building. Nobody got
severely hurt, which is which is the main focus on
everything that we've done since this, these few minutes that
I'm talking about. Yeah, Connor Coburn from No More Blue
(05:48):
Tomorrow's Tom Philbrook Ivan did too many to name, but
we just made sure everybody was okay first, all right,
everybody's okay.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Now we can now we can start being sad, right yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
I think the worst was like smoke inhalation with someone
on one O eight or one ten ash.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I think that was really Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
We're just just very fortunate that just everybody got Yeah,
everyone was just.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
That is that is lucky considering the magnitude of the fire,
that that no one was.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
Unbelieved property can be replaced life camp right exactly right?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Wow, So now so does that mean, like, is everything
you worked on for the album?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Is that all gone?
Speaker 5 (06:32):
So this story is this story is like crazy because
the last time we were here we were talking about
how the album came to be. I had a turbulent uh,
I had a turbulent year, and then Caleb and I
decided that we were going to make the record. I
turned everything around. I kept things positive and I'm still
(06:52):
keeping things positive. But the we were on the bottom floor,
so everything that the only damage that we received was
water damage because they stopped the fire at the top.
So some of the other studios that were in the building,
they lost everything. The people who were in the apartment building.
(07:14):
They lost everything. Yeah, I lost or thought I lost
my music. Oh so I am. I completely was like,
don't worry about me.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Ye, you know.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
We've done three benefit shows for the folks who have
been displaced. We've raised over seven thousand dollars so far,
between a solo show with me, a show at Peddler's
with Connor, and then down at Bad Burger. They hooked
us up and we did a great show and we've
raised so much money for the So I'm not accepting
any donations or doing any gofundmes. I was really sad
(07:46):
about my music because when we finally were able to
get down there, the computer that everything was on was
under three feet of water and some of it's backed up,
some of it's not. But even the stuff that's backed up, like,
there's no way we're going to be able to release
the record, right, you know?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah? So, and we didn't even know what was on
the hard drive.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
It's literally been a week since our executive producer, Dave
Patterson texted me and told me that the hard drives
all set, everything is still there. We can still release
the record and like like that, that's when I told
people like, you want to see me cry, that's that's
when you're gonna see me cry. I got my stuff back, Yeah,
(08:25):
I got my stuff back. We're not releasing the record.
What we're gonna do is re release the EP that
we released in July. But we're gonna do it with
the same kind of same approach that we were going
to take at the record. We're gonna do CDs, shirts, stickers,
maybe posters, and and just get out and start playing.
(08:46):
But instead of being ten songs, it's gonna be five.
And uh, then we'll once we figure out a location
to set up shop to start mixing the record, that's
when we're gonna go forward and start working on that.
You know, Eleanor and Andre down at Terminus, they're volunteering some space.
(09:07):
They've been instrumental, especially Eleanor, like what a person like,
just instrumental in organizing the community to come together. And
that is the biggest piece of all of this, is
that our music community came together for this, like immediately,
and I couldn't be I couldn't be more proud to
(09:28):
be a part of it, you know what I mean. Like,
there's so many different genres of music in this area,
and that's what Hatchet Accent saw I really wanted to
to focus on, and that's what we wanted to do.
We wanted to put everybody out there, and they came
to our aid like immediately. So I'm very proud to
say that that I'm a part of this southern New
(09:49):
Hayampshire music community because because.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
We're we're awesome. Yeah, that's how people showed out, man. Yeah,
question absolutely.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Now what about music? Were you in the midst of
working on anything else for any of the other artists
associated with the label or we.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
We had been working on one it it kind of
it was fallen through for for some reasons, but there
was also more that was going to be coming with
Santino that it just kind of started that that hadn't
fallen through. We just oh, Crank and Wagon. Crank and
Wagon had had literally weeks before the fire. We had
(10:30):
just started and we had gotten tracks, drum tracks on
our self titled tune. We had started one of the
other ones too, and yeah, man, there were some projects
that that were nascent, but but still still it started.
In fact, you can go and you can check out
the Facebook reels that I think Paul published of him
(10:52):
doing the the ambulance sound with the guitar. Yeah, it's
just just some fun stuff we were doing with that tune. Yeah,
but you know, we had stuff that was in the
works that I think really would have knocked your socks.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
It still will.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
I mean, yea, this week, we gotta you know, we
gotta make the time and right now get in the
real estates the big block. Dave and I Dave and
I are we're looking, we're scouting options, but it's kind
of hard to replace what we had there because the
one the one thing, man, we are two things. We
(11:28):
had the electricity included in the cost of the rent, yeah,
which I mean for a musician, holy crap.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
Yeah, space was like, yeah, it's just and then on
top of that, as if that wasn't good enough, we
also had it twenty four loud down there, which is
just I mean, what more.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Can you ask for? Yeah, you know, if you if
you can.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
Work all hours of the day and night and and
have power included in your rent, oh yeah I would.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
I'd get out of work at nine shoot down there
and just be there all night working on the music.
Whether I'm working on one of the projects or my
own stuff. It was just it was too good to
be true that space. But you know what, we learned
a lot down there in the last In the last
five years that I've been working with Caleb and Dave,
(12:21):
I've learned so much about myself as a musician. I've
learned how it all goes together. And it's not easy,
like you know, I mean, and I still need Dave
and Caleb to come down and do the mixes and
stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
Yeah, how do you put a song together? How do
you put show together?
Speaker 5 (12:41):
I grew so much as a musician because of One
fifteen Vine. I've been a musician since I was seven.
I'm forty five years old, and in the last five
years I can now be like really proud of who
I am as a musician, and a lot of it
has to do with Caleb, Dave and one fifteen Vine.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Yeah, no doubt a brief detour, because I truly don't
think we're just Jesse myself, Dave even just dead like
other bands in the basement dead Time, you know, good
good friends and folks and incredible musicians. We're just one
small piece, small recent piece of the history of that
(13:22):
building in the music community.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I don't really.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
I don't think people truly understand. It goes back decades. Really, Yeah,
that that that building in the like early two thousands,
it was the home for a bunch of bands. I mean,
one of one band. I remember when I was in
middle school and going into high school. There's a band Voyagers,
(13:46):
my buddy Eddie and uh Rusty the guitar players, and
then trying to remember but they I mean Eddie, I'm
pretty sure he used.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
To live in that building. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
And you know, now now he's married, he's got a
got a kid, and he's doing great. He's kind of
gotten out of music. But I mean that that whole
building for decades was a generator of original music of
you know, people doing it honestly, you know, for for
(14:21):
for real, and and and it's it's truly it's hard
to explain to people that we were just the latest
custodian exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
We we were, we were just the most recent and
and I mean I I remember, uh some years ago,
some guys I think they're from the New York area,
but they had a studio all the way up here
in Nashville in that building. Perspective, A lovely hand to hold.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Oh yeah, they were.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
They were a fantastic band, and they had an incredible
studio that was on the second floor, and they they
had moved out some years ago, but just to to
explain to people that there were so many, even people
who weren't affected by the fire, but just so much
music came out of that building over.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
The last five Over the last five years. When I say, oh, yeah,
I'm at one fifteen vine, I could be talking to
some band that I was playing with and conquered oh yeah, right, yeah,
the warehouse, Oh yeah, everybody.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
It gained.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
It gained a notoriety of just yeah special place. Yeah,
musicians come out of there. And you know, if you
if you had the gumption, if you're really were putting
in time and really doing it, you could do it.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
It wasn't pretty on the outside, but when when you
walk through those doors, it was just.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Any given day.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
I'd be going down to work on one of my
love songs and I'd hear a hardcore band were cursing upstairs. Yeah,
and and it there's just something about that.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
And then you'd run out to the guys that everybody's
going to their car and stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Oh, you guys sound good.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
And then this hardcore band. I'd be like, oh, I
heard you mixing downstairs. This sounds good, you know, and
and just like the amount of respect we all had
for each other.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
It was it was really like the community within a community.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, just you know, and and that
hopefully that community will I mean, it's clearly remaining strong.
I mean the Bad Yeah, the Bad Burger benefit was
just it was incredibly well attended, you know, and just uh,
it's it's very heartwarming to see it.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
That was a that was a fun show too, because
I I had just I didn't even know Ash she
does the booking down there, and I saw that she
was putting on a show this is in with within
like two days of the fire, and so I shot
her a message, you know, shoot your shot.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I'm like, hey, my name is Jesse Rudstein.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
I'm a member of the community that that was affected.
I'd like to get on the bill, just knowing that
it was a benefit show, and she's like, yeah, sure.
She threw my logo on the poster and fun anything like,
apparently my logo looks like everybody else's logo that was
on the poster. But they were all hardcore metal bands
and yeah there's me singing my love songs.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
Some serious It was awesome.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
But that's cool though. We had a really cool show.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
But but I with everything that was going on, I
didn't really have a chance to check out all the
other bands that were on the bill. Yeah, and then
when I did, I'm like, oh no, I mean myself
on a hardcore show.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yeah, I mean it's all right, yeah yeah, yeah, no one.
The other bands were great.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
The whole show was very, like Caleb said, was very
well attended.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, very well attend and people really did show out.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Good, good, excellent. If you're just joining us, we've got
Jesse Rotstein and Caleb Diler Tire sorry from Hatchet Asensaw Records.
See now I can say the name Hatchet Accessaw Records,
but I can't say your last name apparently, but uh yeah,
we were talking about the fire at one fifteen Vine
that was the address, Yeah, team.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
And also want to wait in one ten ash I
think that. Yeah, at least in the music community, we
we focused on one fifteen fine, but there were there
were like thirty people this placed from there.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Oh my god. Wow. Yeah, that's the scale of it.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Was just yeah, that's awful. Remark remarkable though that in
all that no one was seriously hurt or killed. I
mean that's incredible. Yeah, with that many people, you know, early, well,
what time was this? Like six thirty was when I
got the phone call? Yeah, I got there at about eight. Yeah,
I called Caleb around seven.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
When I got down there, it was like, where's Ivan,
Where's Connor, where's Tom?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
You know, people? Where is everybody? Is? Everybody? Okay? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (18:44):
And then so then I called Caleb and and of
course it was the first really big snowstorm of the season.
So yeah, then it ding snow. I'm sitting there, like
watching the fire department. This is a five alarm fire.
So hats off to I'm gonna I'm gonna remember them
all this time, uh, Lowell, Nashua, Hollis, Tingsboro, and Hudson. Yeah,
(19:12):
so those are all the fire departments. I think that's right.
If if I missed a fire department, sorry, guys.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
I think Merrimac also show. I think there's six something
like that.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
I don't know the first Hats off to the first
responders for sure, but I'm watching it and I'm like,
and you know, my mind is always going.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I'm an overthinker, and I'm like, oh, maybe this snow
will help.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Yeah, yeah, frozen water falling from the sky. And then
all of a sudden, there's all these flames everywhere, and
these guys like like, there's some great photos and not
they're not great photos, but some really uh captivating photos
of of like this guy on one ladder and this
guy on another ladder, like those guys one of the
Actually there were three injuries, minor injuries, two people from
(19:59):
the apartment a building, and the only other injury was
to a member of one of the fire departments. Okay,
and everybody but like everybody's okay, No nobody got seriously injured.
But those were the only reported injuries throughout the whole thing,
so I would be uh, I got to say thanks
to the fire departments.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, strictly the fire departments. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
But as soon as I remember it distinctly, as soon
as the scene was kind of cleared, I went home.
I as soon as I got to the scene and
that fire burning, I was just kind of like, I
don't need to be here, I don't need to watch
my life burn away.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
I just went home and I was like, all right, well,
time to make some plans, like what are we going
to do about it?
Speaker 5 (20:50):
I couldn't take my eyes off it.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
And then so, well you gave me a call at
what time.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
I don't know when it exactly it was, but it
was sometime the afternoon, and you're like, hey, they're gonna
be letting people into the building, and you were. You
ended up being one of the first people in the building.
To tell a little bit about that, And then I'll
explain when I got there and what I did to.
Speaker 8 (21:13):
You.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
So you want to do you want me to tell
a story, Well, I mean tell like when's got down
in there, like you saw, you saw it in the
original state, you saw it before even I.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, I was. I was the first one in the building.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
So so we're sitting there, everything's burning, and the news
crews show up and our good friend Connor Coburn, really
close friend of mine, he lead singer for No More
Blue tomorrows Uh. He's the one who put on the
benefit that's raised the most money for the victims so far.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
But he sees the news cruise.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
Show up and he looks over and he goes, Jesse,
there's some cameras over there, like, all right, I'll see
you guys later, and I went and I did some
interviews and on local and national national news about the fire,
which was on the street right next to the building.
And so that happened. Caleb's like, I'm out of here.
(22:09):
You know, everybody's kind of dispersed. One of the great
coincidences about the location of this place is that my
ex wife lives right down the road. So even throughout
all these years, I'll be at the studio, then I,
you know, see my kids.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
My kids would just come down and jam.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
You know, my sons are they play and you know
they would they would, you know, I would be able
to just run over there, have dinner and go back
and work on stuff. Yeah, nice little coincidence. So I
set up shop at my ex wife's house.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I called her.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Obviously she knew what was going on, she could see
it from her window. And I was kind of like
gonna be the point person to be able to walk
down there and see what was.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Going on throughout the day.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
So at around eleven am, after everybody had left, we
had some food.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I didn't even know if it was.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
It was one of those days where it wasn't lunch,
it wasn't breakfast, it was just, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
We have food.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
And I walked down there again with my son and
we went to go check it out and I saw
the police, I'm sorry, the fire chief, and he brought
me in the building with him. This is after the
fire was out, and I was like, I just I
just want to know what's going on downstairs. And he
walked down half the stairs and he goes, there's like
(23:26):
three four feet of.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Water down there.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
That's how much That's how much water it took to
put out this fire. But we're in the basement of warehouse,
so there was nowhere for the water to go. So
that I call Caleb, I let him know that, and
I go back to go back to the point. And
about a couple hours later, I walked down the street again.
This time there was police tape up, like they had
(23:49):
put like tape up, and this is the same street
I had been walking down all day. There's actually a
video of me and my son coming back from that
visit where the Mayor of Nashville was taking a video
saying how how tragic it is on this street. But
now there's tape there. I didn't really think anything of it.
And I walked around and Officer Jonathan Earnhardt decided to
(24:13):
start yelling at me. Rightfully, so I crossed the tape. Sure, sure,
I did a bad thing, he said, But but he
was Immanti, I'm gonna rest you.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
I mean, you probably weren't even thinking about it, right,
It's not like it's not like you consciously did that.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Yeah, und I just walked the route that I've been
walking for five years. Yeah, And I like, he's he's
threatening to arrest me, and I'm like, I'm like, dude, seriously,
Like I am just like one of the victims here.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I'm just checking in.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
I was literally in the building with the fire chief
a little while ago, and he's yelling at me and
doing his little cop thing, and I'm I'm not nice.
I'm not nice when people I have I've always.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Had a problem with authorities.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Sure, sure, but at this, at this point in the game,
like I wasn't doing anything. I literally did a news
I was on TV on the place I was standing,
so I didn't think it was.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
A big deal.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
And you were dealing with a lot emotionally in that moment, right,
I mean, this is a traumatic thing.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
I am losing my mind, not knowing what is going on.
So I walked back to my ex wife's house and
I told her what happened. And Tom hanging with my son.
We're playing Minecraft, you know what I mean, just just
trying to forget about what's going on. Finally four o'clock
rolls around and I'm like, you know what, I like
what Caleb did early in the morning, Like I'm calling
(25:22):
it today. We'll figure all this out. Nobody needs me here,
so and and I I didn't you know, dried. I
had to get an uber to get home. So I
ordered my uber, but because of the police vehicles on
the street, the uber couldn't get in.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
So I walk down Ash. I walked three blocks.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
I walked down Ash around back to Vine to you know,
to not cross the line, because I complied when he
told me not to cross the line. And I get
to the building and he's on the other side of
the building because he was literally parked on the other
side of the building. There's a couple of cop cars there,
and another officer was like, where are you going.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I'm like, I'm just trying to catch my uber. He's
over there. Can I go?
Speaker 5 (26:05):
And he's like, yeah, sure, And then I noticed people
going in and out of the building. The cops had
started letting some of the musicians, and I started seeing
my friends going on and out of the building.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
So I turned to the officer respectfully and I'm like,
you're letting people in there.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
This is my building. Now.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Keep in mind, I've been calling this my building for
five years. It doesn't belong to me, but you know,
it's like say in my house.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Right right, Yeah, of course belongs to Hinch crowdly right right.
So the officers like, yeah, you're one of the musicians. Yeah,
I can go ahead.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
So I cancel my UBER and I go in and
we start ripping guitars out of there. Like I'm on
the stairs. These other guys are all wading through the water.
They're giving me the computer. They're giving Devin was like,
what do you need. I'm like, the computer, yeah, you know,
and get me the strat, get me the this case,
this case, brown case, you know. And we're just pulling
instruments up for about a half an hour and the
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pit's black. I'm soaked, everybody's you know, And I cancel
the uber and my dad called me and he's like Hey,
do you want some help. I'm like yeah, because because
he was out and whatever. So he drove down, parked
behind the officers, and I was just gonna start loading
up some guitars into his car. And the first guitar
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that I grabbed was the Stratocaster and it belongs to Caleb. Well,
it belongs to the studio, doesn't belong to me. I
was the one who bought it. I didn't grab my
guitar first. This Strata is on every track. It's a
very important sentimental piece, but it's also one of the
best guitars in the studio. So I grabbed that one first,
mainly because like carrying two was like carrying one hundred pounds.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
And then I'm carrying it toward my I see my dad,
see the cop cars.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
And then all of a sudden, I hear where's your uber?
Speaker 5 (27:51):
And it's the officer from earlier in the day, Jonathan
earn Hart. He starts yelling at me and he's like,
where's your uber. I'm like, dude, I canceled my uber.
You're letting people in the building. I'm at this point,
I'm like I don't want to deal with this. I
can feel my blood getting hotter. And he goes, you
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lied to him and you said you own this building,
and you lied and you said you were getting I'm like, dude, please, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
It was crazy.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
And he looked, he literally looked at me, and he's like, listen,
I've had a really long day.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Oh my god, my god.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
So this is yeah my blood.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
This is where my blood went from boiling to just
like overflowing the pot. And and I was like, you've
had a long day. And I said, and I started
running my mouth and I shouldn't have run my mouth.
And when I run my mouth, it runs. And then
so he's like, you're on body cam right now, I'll
arrest you right now. He had no reason to arrest me.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
I was. I was threatening.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
So what I did was I leaned the stratocaster case
on my leg and I put my hands up and
I was like, go ahead and arrest me. If if
you're gonna arrest me, go ahead and just do it.
Like he had no reason to, right, so he couldn't.
And he grabbed the guitar and he threw it toward
my father's car. Oh go far in defense of this officer,
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mister Officer Earn Hardt. I will say, in his defense,
he didn't know what he was throwing. No, he like,
he shows up to a you know, cops have a
hard job. They show up to like like scenes all
the time, Like this guy's getting thrown out of his house,
grab his suitcase and get out of here, you know.
So so in his defense, he didn't know what he
was throwing, but he threw. Doesn't make it okay, though,
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and that's the point of this story. So he throws
the guitar and that's when I lost my mind. I'm
still in the air and I'm now I'm like all
the things that you could say to a cop that
you're not supposed to say, I'm saying, but I'm I'm
non threatening, like I wasn't doing anything wrong. And so finally,
thank god it was my dad who was there, because
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because I would have ended up in cuffs.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
You out there.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
He was like, he grabbed the guitar, he put it
in the car, He got me in the car and
he's like, let's just go. I'm like, I have other
stuff to get, and the cops like, you're not going
back in that building.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
It's crime scene. I'm like, you're other people.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
They're literally literally Connor, Connor, I, I, I, everybody, whoever else.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
He hasn't shown up yet.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
No, I showed up maybe about an hour after this
all I called him.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
I went home like I'm like screaming. Caleb's like, Jesus
es I know.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
I'm just like now I have to now go and
get all of the rest of the time as much
as I could carry it out.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
And I'm not saying like I believe that officer Earnhardt
caused the scene, but but I didn't. But I was
very much part of the scene. So I get home,
I opened the case. I noticed at the back of
the back of the neck the guitar is damaged and
it's still being looked at.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
It could have been water damage, but.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
It's it's very likely a combination of both. So I
took it and this this is a shameless plug. This
is a shameless plug. And then then I'll talk about
the salvage operation.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
Yeah, let me, but before you do that, sure, I
noticed the guitar was damaged, So I did the right thing,
and I filed police report against this officer for damaging
our property. And I get a phone call two days
later from what I just think is a supervisor.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
I was talking to the captain of the National Police
Department and he told us to come. He asked me
to come down, and so I immediately called Caleb, grab
the evidence. Let's go, because because Caleb's first like this
was an impact that it could Yeah, he'll he'll tell
you all about how the wood is on the guitar
and all that. But we get to the police department
and I said, I hope you don't mind I brought.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I brought my partner with.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Me, and he goes, well, I would have liked to
heads up, and then we sit down in the chair.
What this guy thought was gonna be like he thought
he was going to reprimand me for yelling and being
a bad boy. But and he was like, you know,
he was going to throw a couple bucks because they
do have funds in police departments, like if they have
to kick in a door during a fire or during
during a scene that the state, the city or the
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state will take care.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Of like the door hinges for the landlord and stuff.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
So he thought it was just gonna be like a
little okay, you shouldn't have been mean, and we're gonna
like pay for something. That's not what happened, though. I
was like, no, no, no, your officer threw my guitar. He goes, well,
I saw you on the bodycam footage and you weren't
being nice. And I was like, I know I wasn't
being nice, but my hands were in the air. I
was not threatening. But did you happen to catch on
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the bodycam footage your officer throwing the guitar? He said no,
I didn't see that. I haven't talked to the officer yet.
He just kept stumbling over himself because he thought he
was just gonna slap some stupid long hair musician on
the wrist, of course, but instead he got me, so
I started unloading on him, not again, not knowing he was.
I just thought he was like, yeah, Supervisor, that was
not smart. I think you've assumed too much of officer. Well, yeah,
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in any event, Officer Captain Welsh continuously told me to
not say that his officer was lying. But if his
officer said that he didn't throw the guitar, he's lying,
you know. Like lying is very simple. If if you
know something is the truth and you say the opposite,
then that's a lie. So I kind of got into
it with Welsh and they're there now can his head dropped.
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He's like, this is not how I thought the conversation
was going to go. Now I have to do an investigation.
And he's, you know, given the whole you know, Officer
earn Hard, he's a good guy.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Of course.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
I'm like, I'm like, look man, he's a good guy,
and he made a mistake. This whole time, I've recognized
that it was an accident. Sure, but if I hit
your car tomorrow with my car and it's my fault,
I have to pay for that accident. That was a
reason they call it for calling an accident. We just
want the guitar replays.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (33:50):
I hope they do the right thing repair replace that. Yeah,
I I don't.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
I don't really care which it is.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
But but then I brought Caleb with me and he'll
talk to the This is where Caleb can.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
So we had the meeting with Officer Welch. I I'm
of the opinion it probably could have gone better.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
But it's all good man, and and you know, I
just I explained to him.
Speaker 6 (34:14):
I was like, I checked out the guitar and I
was like some of this, Yeah, the glue was loosened
up by the water, but some of it to me
kind of looks like impact that case. Yeah, And I
mean the case showed a little bit of scuffing on
the top where the headstock would have been in the case,
and that's probably the crappiest part the thing to land on.
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But yeah, it's a Strat's a bolt neck guitar, and
it's got a skunk stripe. So it's got the piece
of wood on the back of the neck that contains
the trust rod in there, and that piece had delaminated
and kind of.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Twisted a little bit.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
And usually if and I've seen some other flood damage
strats and Telly's that have the skunk strip right, And
usually what happens is the glue gets loosened up a
little bit and it usually uniformly delaminates on one side
or the other of the skung stripe. Just yeah, because
the pressure of the wood pushing against itself, it just
wants to uniformly delaminate.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
It had kind of twisted in there, and.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
I'm looking at it and I'm like, man that you know, yeah,
water loosened it up, But I don't think I don't
think that that neck movement happened, but just by water
water doing it, because I mean, I knew the guitar.
The neck was pretty stable on the thing, and strangely,
even with the impact, the next staid barely stable, like
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the guitar.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Wasn't in tune.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
But it definitely it definitely bared. Like I mean, the
body of the guitar is totally fine. It's just the neck. Yeah,
just the neck that got.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
A little bit screeny.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
But yeah, yeah, the guitar repairs. Yeah, I just just repaired.
And I took it up and this is a shameless
plug to the music text here in Manchester. They're a great,
great guy, do awesome work. I took it up to
Doug McCormick and Seth oh.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Yeah, and yeah, I've known Doug a long time.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Yeah, yeah, Doug. Doug's fantastic. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (36:09):
And and Doug wasn't the one who looked at the
strat really he he's going to handle another restoration project.
It's actually the second time he's taking on this this guitar,
because it's the second time it's been in total disrepair unfortunately.
But the fender he U or Seth looked at the
fender and he was like, yeah, we can at the
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very word, you know, at the very worst, we'll just
pop a new neck on it.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yeah, and then that'll be fine.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
And I'm sure he'll find a neck that's like, you know,
within ninety percent similar to it. The one thing that well,
we'll kind of suck about that is we won't have
the uh, the serial number on it. It was a
it was a two thousand, two thousand neck. And you know,
even if we replace the neck, it permanently devalues the instrument.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
It's no longer you know, I mean that was it.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
Literally in twenty twenty five, that guitar became a did
the guitar?
Speaker 2 (37:01):
You know? Crazy? Yeah, it's really really weird.
Speaker 6 (37:04):
I bought it a couple of years ago, you know,
just as a used strat, just because the studio needed
a strat. We needed something that was serviceable and was
gonna last a long time.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
Yeah, every track, it's every one of my tracks, a
ton of tunes. I can't think of one song that
I didn't. I mean, the strat is the most first
satile guitar in the history of guitars.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Arguably I disagree with.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
Of course, you know, but I mean it's most most
certainly is one of one of the most iconic, I mean,
every you know, if you've ever heard Sweet Home Alabama,
you've heard of Stratocaster.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Yeah, there's a picture Jimmy Hendricks right there there.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
You Oh yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 6 (37:47):
Some of the most iconic songs you've ever heard. I
recorded on one of them. And you know, I'm not
even really a strat guy.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I just need neither of us, are.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
We just we just need one in the studio, you know,
if you're just joining us, we have Jesse Rutstein and
Caleb Dire. I almost sit it again, whatever, I just
say Jesse and Caleb from records word.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
So I didn't mean to wed. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
I didn't mean to get so off on that part
of the story because that is such a minuscule piece
of this puzzle. We just hope Nashville PD does the
right thing because I'm doing a lot of shows right now,
and like the Bad Burger show that came out like
they just came out swinging. They don't, they're not even
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they weren't even really associated with us and came out
swinging and then Peddlers came out and then San Francisco
Kitchen and Nashua. So between those three shows alone, we've
done over seven thousand dollars. Yeah, and uh, you can
donate through the Salvation Army just so everybody knows. Eleanor
from Terminus New Hampshire Underground set up a link where
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people can donate and between our contributions and people that
have been coming to the shows, and like we've raised
all this money and we have a really big one
coming up on February, February seventh, and and that's going
to be at the Backstreet Bar and Grill. That's going
to be like an all day festival style with some
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really great bands to be announced. We haven't gotten confirmation
on every band, but we do know that obviously I'm
going to be there.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
The Faith and Band is going to be there.
Speaker 5 (39:32):
No More Blue Tomorrow's is going to be there, and
and and if I'm I'm missing, I know I'm missing
people and I'm sorry, Dead Harrison, I'm wearing it.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Yeah shirt nice. They're going to be down there too.
I would love to get Dead Time on that bill.
Speaker 5 (39:44):
Yeah, where we're we're working with them. And then on
the is it the sixteenth of this month or seventeenth. See,
I had it already the sixteenth. Lacy who I am
is putting on a show at Photies and she's had
when we come down and we're going to do a
show at Photis that weekend also to benefit so excellent.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
The thing is, like, I just I really.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
Want to focus on because I'm not accepting any donations.
Jesse rudstein Brand is not accepting any donations, no gofundmes.
I didn't lose what other people lost, right, you know?
Speaker 6 (40:22):
We we are indirectly we are taking donations. If you
would like to donate three streets, yes, if you If
you would like to donate to the effort that we're
putting on, it's through a zephy link, OK, not not
a go the go fundmes that are out there, and
please do donate to those as well if you are able.
Those are all to benefit individual musicians that were in
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the building or bands or what have you. But the
the only one, the only formal operation was us. We
were the only one that had like some formal governance
structure in any way, shape or form, and so we're
trying to use that nonp off its status to receive donations,
try to help people who donate to us give you
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a tax receipt, you know, help you out come tax time.
But you know, uh so if you if you want
to donate, we've got a Zephi link we can point
you to that.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
You can find it not only.
Speaker 6 (41:16):
Through Tree Streets stuff, but you can also find it
through New Hampshire Underground and Ellen Orchishu is the one
who set it up.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
But that any money given to that.
Speaker 6 (41:23):
Benefits Tree Streets Incorporated, which is David Patterson myself, and
we're you know, if if you want to see where
all the money's going, yeah, well you know we're publishing that.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
So okay, excellent, good But yeah, it's we're doing We're
doing some good, you know, and it stinks that we
have to. That's like, that's a story, right, I'm getting
like I wanted to release my record and start gigging
in twenty twenty six to support it.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yeah, I couldn't wait. I couldn't wait. Yeah, and a
little bit of a delay. Well, but the.
Speaker 5 (41:57):
Amount of exposure that I'm getting from this five here
is probably more than I would have got from the record,
So I'm not trying I'm not trying to capitalize on
a horrible thing. I just it feels good to do
right by the folks, you know, And I just wish
I didn't have to do that, because they.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
They It's strange how the world works. It really is, man.
I mean, we just you know, but you keep on
keeping on.
Speaker 5 (42:25):
Just keep it, keeping it all positive and looking looking
to the future.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Hatchet Action Saw is not dead. We just burned. We
just got burned. On a positive note.
Speaker 6 (42:35):
On a positive note, I have happy news to report
about the equipment. So, as Jesse articulated earlier, we really
didn't suffer any fire damage in the basement.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
It's pretty much all.
Speaker 6 (42:47):
Water, so there was a lot of stuff that was submerged. However,
one thing that is pretty good about some of these
old electronics is that they're actually fairly resilient water damage,
especially if you just let it out for a whole
long time. So, yeah, the computer was toast, which sucks. However,
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the SSDs, we were able to rip them out of
the computer and you know, process that information onto a
new machine.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Excellent. So there's an immediate win.
Speaker 6 (43:18):
That's why we're going to be able to re release
or release anything that we will be able to do
come this March. In addition to that, I've been going
through test and amplifiers. I just last night played a
gig with a V four B that we had down there,
very very nice base amp costs quite a bit of money,
and two by fifteen, a vintage acoustic two by fifteen
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cab base cab, and that base rig absolutely slams and
that head was totally completely submerged, totally submerged, water, totally underwater.
When I grabbed it out of the basement there were
at least three inches of water on top of where
the handle was. Oh my god, you know, yeah, so
it totally submerged in that amp. When I turned it
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on yesterday before I went to or I should say
two days ago testing it for yesterday.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
When I played the gig, it just fired up. That's amazing,
fired right up, and and man it you know, thumped
all the same. That's incredible.
Speaker 6 (44:20):
And I'm expecting that most of the amplifiers, given that
I've given him about four weeks to dry out, most
of the amplifiers I think are going to turn on.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
I haven't tested them all. I've tested the the.
Speaker 6 (44:33):
An amplifier that we literally bought in three days before
the fire.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Oh really, yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (44:40):
It was a nineteen sixty eight Lafayette is a nice
old vintag jamp. I bought it out in Swansea off
of a guy who was an amp technician, and he
knew what he had, but he was just like, yeah,
I'm willing to I'm willing to let this.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Go and and go to go to a good home. Yeah.
And I had put it down there.
Speaker 6 (44:55):
I had, I had play tested it, and you know,
and then the fire happens and I'm thinking, I hope
that thing survives. The way that the amp is designed,
it's like taller than it is wide. So the amp
never actually saw water, actually didn't.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
The speakers did.
Speaker 6 (45:16):
The lower speakers saw water, but the actual amp was
totally untouched. And I that was one of the first
amps that I tested, and it just fired right up.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Nice. There's a lot of.
Speaker 6 (45:28):
Stuff like That's some stuff that's a little more questionable. Unfortunately,
both of my keyboards were totally submerged, even in their
road cases. The b X three, which is a vintage
eighties like Corg b X three very it's yeah, right,
literally can't be replaced.
Speaker 5 (45:47):
They stopped making them and it can find when it
costs more than yeah, yeah we should be spending on yeah.
Speaker 6 (45:54):
More than what we should be spending on that. And
that thing got soaked and it's still buried in rice
right now, so I'm gonna have to go and vacuum
that all.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
Oh so in theory there might be hope still.
Speaker 5 (46:06):
So so no matter that seems to be the theme. Yes, yes,
it's it's miraculous that all these things are surviving.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
I followed all of.
Speaker 6 (46:15):
The procedures and protocols for for salvage and electronics. Man,
so there's there's a high likelihood that it will turn
on okay, even if it doesn't work one hundred percent
because this thing was built in like nineteen eighty three
in Japan. There was actually some Japanese person that point
to point wired this whole thing, so you know, it's
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not built like a modern PCB board equipment.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
So it's it's it's.
Speaker 6 (46:43):
Definitely salvageable no matter what. It's a matter of how
much money do you want to sink actually repairing it,
But those sorts of things are worth putting it into.
The The other major thing, which I got a shout
out to my father, Mitch Dyer. He he came down
in a couple of days and he helped lug out
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the ham and B three that we had down there,
and that that if if I mean if listeners out there,
no HAMM and B three under normal circumstances, generally takes
about four people to move it safely. Yeah, and to
have one that's water logged and all kinds of screwed up.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Yeah, it was rough. However, because my.
Speaker 6 (47:24):
Father is a mechanical genius, we basically were able to
do it with two people.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (47:31):
The way we rigged it up, you know, we locked
on the tone wheel and did all we had to
do to get it ready to move. But we we
rigged up a chain fall and we just we we
took in the building. There's some four inch cast iron
pipe that's just like hanging for for drain lines and stuff. Yeah,
just old old cast iron pipe. It's stuff that guys
wouldn't use today. But it was perfect for us because
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we could rig up all kinds of like toast strapping
and chain fall up there and we could support the
weight of this organ just oh my god, for cast
iron pipe with the hang Oh yeah wow. So so
it only took two of us to to actually move
it up and out.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
Do you have video of that? Did you take video?
Speaker 6 (48:08):
Yeah, so we didn't take video, but we we we
got pictures of the rag and uh it kind of
surprised people because we did put out a call to help.
That morning, I put out a Facebook post like, hey,
if anyone has extra time this to make this safe,
you know, really even just a pair of eyes or
what have you. But but no, we we got it done.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Just just the two of us.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
Amazing and uh yeah, we we we.
Speaker 6 (48:34):
Absolutely did make it out of there with that B
three within a couple of days that that that thing
is uh, it's gonna get rebuilt, it's gonna go down.
And here's another shameless plug to someone who doesn't get
nearly enough recognition in the Keys community. Tyler dre Bick
down in Summerville at Boss, Oregon. He's actually originally from
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up here in New Hampshire and he does incredible work.
He's he's probably and I mean I think he knows this.
He's one of the foremost Hammond organ techs in the world.
He you know, he does ham and teching for you know,
touring act guy guys in touring acts you you know,
and he's gonna be the one who's gonna be taken
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on the job. I get to deliver the organ to
him at the end of the month, end of January
or maybe beginning. It kind of depends on when his
space exactly frees up.
Speaker 5 (49:27):
But one of the one of the most amazing things
about this situation that just landed in my lap five
years ago being a part of Tree Streets Incorporated, Uh,
not only just the support from Dave and Caleb, but
the fact that we had things like a ham and
B three with a Leslie rotating cab at our fingertips. Nowadays,
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when you hear organ in the song, if you hear
organ in the song, it's it's usually just like a
setting and it's fine, like that's what we do when
we play live. But on Lost in It All featuring
Faith in the single that's the single that's uh that we're.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Trying to get rolling, Yeah, that's a real organ.
Speaker 5 (50:09):
On Dear Baby Gene, which which is a a what
didn't start as as a song that was going to
be prominently organ driven. Yeah, it's a real hamm and
it's like it's like what ray Man Xeric used on
those Doors records.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
Well, no, he used a Vox but yeah, stop correcting, Not.
Speaker 5 (50:29):
That wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
That wasn't a B three.
Speaker 6 (50:31):
No, no, he used a Vox Continental but no, kidding,
show my ignorance and a Fender Roads based baby.
Speaker 5 (50:38):
I knew about the Fender room. But in any event,
it's the fact that we had all these wonderful instruments
and and what Caleb and Dave put together.
Speaker 6 (50:50):
It's if you build it, they will come, and I did.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (50:55):
But so so we dug into the computer computers for
hard drive.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
Is okay?
Speaker 5 (51:02):
That the most important thing means we have all the
stems for all the songs.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
Good.
Speaker 5 (51:06):
And so the title track of the of the album
that was meant to be Superhero Toys, and it's a
song about my son, my son's actually, and they were
on the track, so I like, I don't want to
give it too much a way about the song, but
at the end of the song we repeat the chorus
(51:27):
and all the kids are on it, and we do
some like Pink Floyd's style like recordings in the background
of kids like like stuff throughout the years. So, but
one thing that was really special to me was Junior's
my son. He's twenty. He's a marine, so he's not around,
and he wanted to take I have my son Jackson
(51:49):
on the track. There's the last verse is about when
he's born and how me and Junior now like it's
our job to make him a man. And he sang
on this track two years ago when we started it,
and we just kind of never finished it, but we
decided to add it to the record and it ended
up becoming the title track, and so Jackson sang on
(52:10):
it again when he was fourteen. So that's the kind
of stuff I was scared to lose, having him at
eleven singing on the track, and then having him at fourteen,
so both of those voices were there, Like I can't
get him at eleven again, I can have him redo
the track tomorrow we set up. So those are the
things that I was thinking about, and honestly, I felt
(52:34):
selfish every time I thought about it, because these people
lost their homes.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
I lost some songs, but.
Speaker 5 (52:39):
I got a roof in a bed, which is one
of the main reasons why I was like laser focused
on making sure people knew that I wasn't taking money
from this. I want to make sure people know that
we are doing everything we can to help the folks
that no longer have a roof in a bed, like
they were getting put up at the old middle school.
(53:00):
Read that's where that's where they were staying. Like I
was staying in my room, you know what I mean?
Like I was, I was cooking breakfast the next day
in my kitchen.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
You know, so so I.
Speaker 5 (53:12):
But but now that we are making sure that in
the Salvation Army has been great. I forget the gentleman's
name that was the contact. I believe it's Dave something,
but he's working closely with the families to make sure
that that all our donations are going through.
Speaker 2 (53:27):
And good. Now now that and I.
Speaker 5 (53:31):
Jokingly said, like the first week after all this, because
any anybody who sees me so the news, you know
what's going on with the fire all, I like, I'm like,
I'll be sad next month about my music because I
thought it was gone, and now it's my month to
be sad about. You know, I could be a little
bit selfish. And I get a text from Dave the
(53:51):
other night. I was literally out having a couple a
couple drinks at the Blues blues Bar and I look
I looked down at the phone and they sent me
a message with all my folders. Yeah, man, I cried.
I cried at the bar. I don't even wow, just
like tears filled my eyes and it's all there.
Speaker 2 (54:14):
It's all there. You don't know when we're going to
mix it.
Speaker 5 (54:17):
I'm gonna put a I'm gonna put a date on
it at some point, but right now, what we're going
to do is we're going to re release my EP
with merchandise and start getting out there and uh playing
it live. So the re release is for me personally,
this is this is this is just my plug, not
not a benefit. My re release is on February ninth,
(54:38):
we're re releasing the EP, and then on March seventh
at Bad Burger, we're doing a a record release party
or an EP release party, and my my full band
will be there, and we have two wonderful bands that
are going to be on the bill as well, The
Tumble Toads and the Faith and Band are going to
(54:59):
also be the on the seventh of March at Bad Burger,
and we are gonna that's gonna be a party.
Speaker 2 (55:04):
It's gonna be a ticketed event.
Speaker 5 (55:05):
There'll be money at the door and merchandise, so if
you want a shirt with my ugly mug on it,
you can come down and check it out.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
But we're really really excited to I'm excited to be
releasing it.
Speaker 5 (55:19):
I wanted Superhero Toys to be on it. Like the
seventeenth of December was when it was supposed to come out.
Speaker 2 (55:26):
My son's birthday.
Speaker 5 (55:27):
Oh yeah, every one of my releases has has a meeting,
even February ninth. I'm like, I want to release in February.
What's a good February date. Well, it happened. February ninth
happens to be the sixty thirty anniversary of when the
greatest band of all time appeared on the Ed Sullivan
Show and change rock and roll, you know, and and
and pretty much made me want to do what I
(55:49):
want to do, you know, through.
Speaker 2 (55:51):
My father and stuff.
Speaker 5 (55:52):
Yeah, excuse me, so everything, everything has a special date.
But I really wanted to come out on the seventeenth.
It's not gonna but buckle up, everybody. Twenty twenty six,
we're we're ripping it and you.
Speaker 6 (56:04):
Might even get a single release of one of my
originals that made it through Nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's
some some music of mine that is as of yet
unheard by the world.
Speaker 2 (56:16):
Okay, okay, this absolutely.
Speaker 6 (56:18):
Wonder this, this fire has kind of made me realize
that I should probably just publish it.
Speaker 3 (56:23):
Yeah, good, good, Well we look forward to that. Guys,
we're almost out of time. I'm thinking I was going
to close out the segment. We'll play Lost in It
all that single with faith and got that cute up
and ready. Anything you want to just remind people before
we wrap up the hour, what what they should know
about what's coming up?
Speaker 6 (56:40):
Well, if if you'd like to catch me tonight, I'm
actually going to be playing a bad Burger a ten
pm tonight.
Speaker 2 (56:46):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (56:46):
I'll be with the brad New Bay Band's kind of
a weird bill. There's like two metal bands and then
a blues band in the middle of it. Okay, you know,
but if you want to catch a forty five minute
set of some some ripping blues tonight, I'll be here
at ten pm.
Speaker 2 (56:59):
Nice also, uh, actually, no, that's it.
Speaker 5 (57:05):
I would love to end the segment by saying thank
you to everybody who supported me. From family, friends, other
musicians are our community, our music community. In southern New
Hampshire is uh is really special?
Speaker 2 (57:19):
Agreed?
Speaker 5 (57:19):
And and you know you got Gary coming in next.
And that guy's in every single band in the music community.
Speaker 3 (57:28):
I always say he's the busiest musician I know.
Speaker 2 (57:30):
I playing with Gary soon. Yeah, excellent week.
Speaker 5 (57:33):
So I say thank you to the bands, to Eleanor
and Terminus Underground. I want to say thank you to
to family and friends who have supported us, anybody who's donated,
and and everybody that's keeping this, keeping this rolling.
Speaker 3 (57:48):
Thank you, absolutely, thank you, well said guys, thank you,
thank you for coming in and this has been this
has been wonderful. And uh yeah, if you are listening
live on Saturday, Gary Smith is joining us next and
right now, let's hit this track. This is Lost in
it All Jesse Rudstein featuring Faith Inn. We made plans
(58:23):
to see the bed because my friend plays ron.
Speaker 5 (58:29):
It's been a long week.
Speaker 4 (58:31):
Cannot can I can't wait again in all time it
sounds I gotta let the episode of a.
Speaker 5 (58:39):
Wag loose my some to sit.
Speaker 8 (58:42):
Here, good, to.
Speaker 4 (58:44):
Have a little fun, baby get served. It's just something
about using wait the know please makes me again up
about my team getting.
Speaker 8 (59:05):
Bosting it all because we all work. God, we getting
lost at it all.
Speaker 3 (59:16):
Somebody then be there.
Speaker 4 (59:18):
We're gonna sit right in and we get lost.
Speaker 8 (59:21):
In at it all. They've been out in a long time.
Speaker 3 (59:28):
Then I just line in joy if I know
Speaker 1 (59:53):
I ain't seen this, tir little lost
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It is Saturday, our first show of the new year
at twenty twenty six. It is a January third. Welcome everybody,
and of course I am not alone.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Jenny John.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Best morning, sun ste Good morning. Yes, Jenny is here
of course at the news table account and joining us. Yes, yes,
Happy new Year everybody and joining us in studio. Let's see,
we've got Jesse Rutstein and Caleb dy Aer here from
of course uh Hatchet Axe and Saw Records.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Hey guys, Hello, Hello, Hello. I learned how to.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Say the name of your label without tripping over it.
See I did my homework this time.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Just too many syllables.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah, yeah, welcome back. It's good to see you. Although
you know, unfortunately under some uh troubling circumstances, because of
the what happened recently in Nashua, we should probably uh
should probably talk about should we talk about that first?
And I know there's another part to it we might
circle back to at the end, but but you know,
(02:18):
I'm sure people are tuning in wanting to know uh
more about what happened and then the aftermath and how
you're moving forward through that.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
And uh, yeah, it's been it's it's been a crazy
end to twenty twenty five for us.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, sorrowing.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Yeah, last time we were here, we were talking about
getting getting rolling with H and S and uh and
we're still rolling.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, oh yeah, some minor setback.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Train slowed down a little bit a little bit. Yeah, Yeah,
it's uh, you know, we're we're making the best of it.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
We're doing what we can.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
So for the for those who don't know what happened exactly,
I mean, obviously there was a there was a fire, so.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
There it's two streets Ash Street.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
There was a apartment complex that caught fire, and there's
rumors I don't want to get into like rumors of
how it all happened, But what ended up happening was
that fire, which absolutely destroyed this apartment building spread over
to the warehouse where Tree Streets Inc. Was located. Tree
Streets Inc. Is the studio that Hatchet accident saw works
(03:27):
out of Okay, and it's where we, you know, keep
all of our equipment.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
It's where we do all the recording.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
My record was supposed to last time we were here,
we were talking about my record dropping on December seventeenth,
and obviously that didn't happen. So the fire spread over
to the warehouse and it like was you know, engulfed
in flames. It was a big story and it was
just pretty it's it's just pretty crazy. I was literally
(03:57):
down in the studio until about two i am the.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Day of, or the night before the fire.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
Yeah, working on the title track of the record, and.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I literally wrapped on it.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
I couldn't wait to call Caleb and say, hey, it's done,
ready for you, ready for you to step in, ready
to master.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
And I went home around two in the morning.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
I had been working all day and I got the
call a couple hours later from somebody else that used
to work in the studio. And it was six thirty
in the morning, and this is a true story, six
thirty in the morning. And I answered the phone and
I'm like, I said to this kid something, something better
be on fire if you're calling this early. And he goes,
(04:45):
I really wish you didn't say that. And then we
get to the scene. I got I got to the scene.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
You called me.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
I called Caleb, and when I got there, I just
I just watched everything.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Everything was on fire. Like it.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
It's a weird expression that we use all the time.
Everything's on fire, right right, you know, but everything's everything
was on fire. I had worked so hard, we had
all worked so hard at this record Superhero Toys that
was supposed to drop on December seventeenth. Yeah, and everything
was on fire. And I call Kale. I'm like, I
(05:25):
don't get down here. I don't know what to do.
First thing we did was round up the people that
we knew might have been in the building. Nobody got
severely hurt, which is which is the main focus on
everything that we've done since this, these few minutes that
I'm talking about. Yeah, Connor Coburn from No More Blue
(05:48):
Tomorrow's Tom Philbrook Ivan did too many to name, but
we just made sure everybody was okay first, all right,
everybody's okay.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Now we can now we can start being sad, right yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
I think the worst was like smoke inhalation with someone
on one O eight or one ten ash.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I think that was really Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
We're just just very fortunate that just everybody got Yeah,
everyone was just.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
That is that is lucky considering the magnitude of the fire,
that that no one was.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
Unbelieved property can be replaced life camp right exactly right?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Wow, So now so does that mean, like, is everything
you worked on for the album?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Is that all gone?
Speaker 5 (06:32):
So this story is this story is like crazy because
the last time we were here we were talking about
how the album came to be. I had a turbulent uh,
I had a turbulent year, and then Caleb and I
decided that we were going to make the record. I
turned everything around. I kept things positive and I'm still
(06:52):
keeping things positive. But the we were on the bottom floor,
so everything that the only damage that we received was
water damage because they stopped the fire at the top.
So some of the other studios that were in the building,
they lost everything. The people who were in the apartment building.
(07:14):
They lost everything. Yeah, I lost or thought I lost
my music. Oh so I am. I completely was like,
don't worry about me.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Ye, you know.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
We've done three benefit shows for the folks who have
been displaced. We've raised over seven thousand dollars so far,
between a solo show with me, a show at Peddler's
with Connor, and then down at Bad Burger. They hooked
us up and we did a great show and we've
raised so much money for the So I'm not accepting
any donations or doing any gofundmes. I was really sad
(07:46):
about my music because when we finally were able to
get down there, the computer that everything was on was
under three feet of water and some of it's backed up,
some of it's not. But even the stuff that's backed up, like,
there's no way we're going to be able to release
the record, right, you know?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah? So, and we didn't even know what was on
the hard drive.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
It's literally been a week since our executive producer, Dave
Patterson texted me and told me that the hard drives
all set, everything is still there. We can still release
the record and like like that, that's when I told
people like, you want to see me cry, that's that's
when you're gonna see me cry. I got my stuff back, Yeah,
(08:25):
I got my stuff back. We're not releasing the record.
What we're gonna do is re release the EP that
we released in July. But we're gonna do it with
the same kind of same approach that we were going
to take at the record. We're gonna do CDs, shirts, stickers,
maybe posters, and and just get out and start playing.
(08:46):
But instead of being ten songs, it's gonna be five.
And uh, then we'll once we figure out a location
to set up shop to start mixing the record, that's
when we're gonna go forward and start working on that.
You know, Eleanor and Andre down at Terminus, they're volunteering some space.
(09:07):
They've been instrumental, especially Eleanor, like what a person like,
just instrumental in organizing the community to come together. And
that is the biggest piece of all of this, is
that our music community came together for this, like immediately,
and I couldn't be I couldn't be more proud to
(09:28):
be a part of it, you know what I mean. Like,
there's so many different genres of music in this area,
and that's what Hatchet Accent saw I really wanted to
to focus on, and that's what we wanted to do.
We wanted to put everybody out there, and they came
to our aid like immediately. So I'm very proud to
say that that I'm a part of this southern New
(09:49):
Hayampshire music community because because.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
We're we're awesome. Yeah, that's how people showed out, man. Yeah,
question absolutely.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Now what about music? Were you in the midst of
working on anything else for any of the other artists
associated with the label or we.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
We had been working on one it it kind of
it was fallen through for for some reasons, but there
was also more that was going to be coming with
Santino that it just kind of started that that hadn't
fallen through. We just oh, Crank and Wagon. Crank and
Wagon had had literally weeks before the fire. We had
(10:30):
just started and we had gotten tracks, drum tracks on
our self titled tune. We had started one of the
other ones too, and yeah, man, there were some projects
that that were nascent, but but still still it started.
In fact, you can go and you can check out
the Facebook reels that I think Paul published of him
(10:52):
doing the the ambulance sound with the guitar. Yeah, it's
just just some fun stuff we were doing with that tune. Yeah,
but you know, we had stuff that was in the
works that I think really would have knocked your socks.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
It still will.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
I mean, yea, this week, we gotta you know, we
gotta make the time and right now get in the
real estates the big block. Dave and I Dave and
I are we're looking, we're scouting options, but it's kind
of hard to replace what we had there because the
one the one thing, man, we are two things. We
(11:28):
had the electricity included in the cost of the rent, yeah,
which I mean for a musician, holy crap.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
Yeah, space was like, yeah, it's just and then on
top of that, as if that wasn't good enough, we
also had it twenty four loud down there, which is
just I mean, what more.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Can you ask for? Yeah, you know, if you if
you can.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
Work all hours of the day and night and and
have power included in your rent, oh yeah I would.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
I'd get out of work at nine shoot down there
and just be there all night working on the music.
Whether I'm working on one of the projects or my
own stuff. It was just it was too good to
be true that space. But you know what, we learned
a lot down there in the last In the last
five years that I've been working with Caleb and Dave,
(12:21):
I've learned so much about myself as a musician. I've
learned how it all goes together. And it's not easy,
like you know, I mean, and I still need Dave
and Caleb to come down and do the mixes and
stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
Yeah, how do you put a song together? How do
you put show together?
Speaker 5 (12:41):
I grew so much as a musician because of One
fifteen Vine. I've been a musician since I was seven.
I'm forty five years old, and in the last five
years I can now be like really proud of who
I am as a musician, and a lot of it
has to do with Caleb, Dave and one fifteen Vine.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Yeah, no doubt a brief detour, because I truly don't
think we're just Jesse myself, Dave even just dead like
other bands in the basement dead Time, you know, good
good friends and folks and incredible musicians. We're just one
small piece, small recent piece of the history of that
(13:22):
building in the music community.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I don't really.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
I don't think people truly understand. It goes back decades. Really, Yeah,
that that that building in the like early two thousands,
it was the home for a bunch of bands. I mean,
one of one band. I remember when I was in
middle school and going into high school. There's a band Voyagers,
(13:46):
my buddy Eddie and uh Rusty the guitar players, and
then trying to remember but they I mean Eddie, I'm
pretty sure he used.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
To live in that building. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
And you know, now now he's married, he's got a
got a kid, and he's doing great. He's kind of
gotten out of music. But I mean that that whole
building for decades was a generator of original music of
you know, people doing it honestly, you know, for for
(14:21):
for real, and and and it's it's truly it's hard
to explain to people that we were just the latest
custodian exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
We we were, we were just the most recent and
and I mean I I remember, uh some years ago,
some guys I think they're from the New York area,
but they had a studio all the way up here
in Nashville in that building. Perspective, A lovely hand to hold.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Oh yeah, they were.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
They were a fantastic band, and they had an incredible
studio that was on the second floor, and they they
had moved out some years ago, but just to to
explain to people that there were so many, even people
who weren't affected by the fire, but just so much
music came out of that building over.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
The last five Over the last five years. When I say, oh, yeah,
I'm at one fifteen vine, I could be talking to
some band that I was playing with and conquered oh yeah, right, yeah,
the warehouse, Oh yeah, everybody.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
It gained.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
It gained a notoriety of just yeah special place. Yeah,
musicians come out of there. And you know, if you
if you had the gumption, if you're really were putting
in time and really doing it, you could do it.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
It wasn't pretty on the outside, but when when you
walk through those doors, it was just.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Any given day.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
I'd be going down to work on one of my
love songs and I'd hear a hardcore band were cursing upstairs. Yeah,
and and it there's just something about that.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
And then you'd run out to the guys that everybody's
going to their car and stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Oh, you guys sound good.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
And then this hardcore band. I'd be like, oh, I
heard you mixing downstairs. This sounds good, you know, and
and just like the amount of respect we all had
for each other.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
It was it was really like the community within a community.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, just you know, and and that
hopefully that community will I mean, it's clearly remaining strong.
I mean the Bad Yeah, the Bad Burger benefit was
just it was incredibly well attended, you know, and just uh,
it's it's very heartwarming to see it.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
That was a that was a fun show too, because
I I had just I didn't even know Ash she
does the booking down there, and I saw that she
was putting on a show this is in with within
like two days of the fire, and so I shot
her a message, you know, shoot your shot.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I'm like, hey, my name is Jesse Rudstein.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
I'm a member of the community that that was affected.
I'd like to get on the bill, just knowing that
it was a benefit show, and she's like, yeah, sure.
She threw my logo on the poster and fun anything like,
apparently my logo looks like everybody else's logo that was
on the poster. But they were all hardcore metal bands
and yeah there's me singing my love songs.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
Some serious It was awesome.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
But that's cool though. We had a really cool show.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
But but I with everything that was going on, I
didn't really have a chance to check out all the
other bands that were on the bill. Yeah, and then
when I did, I'm like, oh no, I mean myself
on a hardcore show.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yeah, I mean it's all right, yeah yeah, yeah, no one.
The other bands were great.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
The whole show was very, like Caleb said, was very
well attended.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, very well attend and people really did show out.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Good, good, excellent. If you're just joining us, we've got
Jesse Rotstein and Caleb Diler Tire sorry from Hatchet Asensaw Records.
See now I can say the name Hatchet Accessaw Records,
but I can't say your last name apparently, but uh yeah,
we were talking about the fire at one fifteen Vine
that was the address, Yeah, team.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
And also want to wait in one ten ash I
think that. Yeah, at least in the music community, we
we focused on one fifteen fine, but there were there
were like thirty people this placed from there.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Oh my god. Wow. Yeah, that's the scale of it.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Was just yeah, that's awful. Remark remarkable though that in
all that no one was seriously hurt or killed. I
mean that's incredible. Yeah, with that many people, you know, early, well,
what time was this? Like six thirty was when I
got the phone call? Yeah, I got there at about eight. Yeah,
I called Caleb around seven.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
When I got down there, it was like, where's Ivan,
Where's Connor, where's Tom?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
You know, people? Where is everybody? Is? Everybody? Okay? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (18:44):
And then so then I called Caleb and and of
course it was the first really big snowstorm of the season.
So yeah, then it ding snow. I'm sitting there, like
watching the fire department. This is a five alarm fire.
So hats off to I'm gonna I'm gonna remember them
all this time, uh, Lowell, Nashua, Hollis, Tingsboro, and Hudson. Yeah,
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so those are all the fire departments. I think that's right.
If if I missed a fire department, sorry, guys.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
I think Merrimac also show. I think there's six something
like that.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
I don't know the first Hats off to the first
responders for sure, but I'm watching it and I'm like,
and you know, my mind is always going.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I'm an overthinker, and I'm like, oh, maybe this snow
will help.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Yeah, yeah, frozen water falling from the sky. And then
all of a sudden, there's all these flames everywhere, and
these guys like like, there's some great photos and not
they're not great photos, but some really uh captivating photos
of of like this guy on one ladder and this
guy on another ladder, like those guys one of the
Actually there were three injuries, minor injuries, two people from
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the apartment a building, and the only other injury was
to a member of one of the fire departments. Okay,
and everybody but like everybody's okay, No nobody got seriously injured.
But those were the only reported injuries throughout the whole thing,
so I would be uh, I got to say thanks
to the fire departments.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, strictly the fire departments. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
But as soon as I remember it distinctly, as soon
as the scene was kind of cleared, I went home.
I as soon as I got to the scene and
that fire burning, I was just kind of like, I
don't need to be here, I don't need to watch
my life burn away.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
I just went home and I was like, all right, well,
time to make some plans, like what are we going
to do about it?
Speaker 5 (20:50):
I couldn't take my eyes off it.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
And then so, well you gave me a call at
what time.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
I don't know when it exactly it was, but it
was sometime the afternoon, and you're like, hey, they're gonna
be letting people into the building, and you were. You
ended up being one of the first people in the building.
To tell a little bit about that, And then I'll
explain when I got there and what I did to.
Speaker 8 (21:13):
You.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
So you want to do you want me to tell
a story, Well, I mean tell like when's got down
in there, like you saw, you saw it in the
original state, you saw it before even I.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, I was. I was the first one in the building.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
So so we're sitting there, everything's burning, and the news
crews show up and our good friend Connor Coburn, really
close friend of mine, he lead singer for No More
Blue tomorrows Uh. He's the one who put on the
benefit that's raised the most money for the victims so far.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
But he sees the news cruise.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
Show up and he looks over and he goes, Jesse,
there's some cameras over there, like, all right, I'll see
you guys later, and I went and I did some
interviews and on local and national national news about the fire,
which was on the street right next to the building.
And so that happened. Caleb's like, I'm out of here.
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You know, everybody's kind of dispersed. One of the great
coincidences about the location of this place is that my
ex wife lives right down the road. So even throughout
all these years, I'll be at the studio, then I,
you know, see my kids.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
My kids would just come down and jam.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
You know, my sons are they play and you know
they would they would, you know, I would be able
to just run over there, have dinner and go back
and work on stuff. Yeah, nice little coincidence. So I
set up shop at my ex wife's house.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I called her.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Obviously she knew what was going on, she could see
it from her window. And I was kind of like
gonna be the point person to be able to walk
down there and see what was.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Going on throughout the day.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
So at around eleven am, after everybody had left, we
had some food.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I didn't even know if it was.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
It was one of those days where it wasn't lunch,
it wasn't breakfast, it was just, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
We have food.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
And I walked down there again with my son and
we went to go check it out and I saw
the police, I'm sorry, the fire chief, and he brought
me in the building with him. This is after the
fire was out, and I was like, I just I
just want to know what's going on downstairs. And he
walked down half the stairs and he goes, there's like
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three four feet of.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Water down there.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
That's how much That's how much water it took to
put out this fire. But we're in the basement of warehouse,
so there was nowhere for the water to go. So
that I call Caleb, I let him know that, and
I go back to go back to the point. And
about a couple hours later, I walked down the street again.
This time there was police tape up, like they had
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put like tape up, and this is the same street
I had been walking down all day. There's actually a
video of me and my son coming back from that
visit where the Mayor of Nashville was taking a video
saying how how tragic it is on this street. But
now there's tape there. I didn't really think anything of it.
And I walked around and Officer Jonathan Earnhardt decided to
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start yelling at me. Rightfully, so I crossed the tape. Sure, sure,
I did a bad thing, he said, But but he
was Immanti, I'm gonna rest you.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
I mean, you probably weren't even thinking about it, right,
It's not like it's not like you consciously did that.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Yeah, und I just walked the route that I've been
walking for five years. Yeah, And I like, he's he's
threatening to arrest me, and I'm like, I'm like, dude, seriously,
Like I am just like one of the victims here.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I'm just checking in.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
I was literally in the building with the fire chief
a little while ago, and he's yelling at me and
doing his little cop thing, and I'm I'm not nice.
I'm not nice when people I have I've always.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Had a problem with authorities.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Sure, sure, but at this, at this point in the game,
like I wasn't doing anything. I literally did a news
I was on TV on the place I was standing,
so I didn't think it was.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
A big deal.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
And you were dealing with a lot emotionally in that moment, right,
I mean, this is a traumatic thing.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
I am losing my mind, not knowing what is going on.
So I walked back to my ex wife's house and
I told her what happened. And Tom hanging with my son.
We're playing Minecraft, you know what I mean, just just
trying to forget about what's going on. Finally four o'clock
rolls around and I'm like, you know what, I like
what Caleb did early in the morning, Like I'm calling
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it today. We'll figure all this out. Nobody needs me here,
so and and I I didn't you know, dried. I
had to get an uber to get home. So I
ordered my uber, but because of the police vehicles on
the street, the uber couldn't get in.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
So I walk down Ash. I walked three blocks.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
I walked down Ash around back to Vine to you know,
to not cross the line, because I complied when he
told me not to cross the line. And I get
to the building and he's on the other side of
the building because he was literally parked on the other
side of the building. There's a couple of cop cars there,
and another officer was like, where are you going.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I'm like, I'm just trying to catch my uber. He's
over there. Can I go?
Speaker 5 (26:05):
And he's like, yeah, sure, And then I noticed people
going in and out of the building. The cops had
started letting some of the musicians, and I started seeing
my friends going on and out of the building.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
So I turned to the officer respectfully and I'm like,
you're letting people in there.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
This is my building. Now.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Keep in mind, I've been calling this my building for
five years. It doesn't belong to me, but you know,
it's like say in my house.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Right right, Yeah, of course belongs to Hinch crowdly right right.
So the officers like, yeah, you're one of the musicians. Yeah,
I can go ahead.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
So I cancel my UBER and I go in and
we start ripping guitars out of there. Like I'm on
the stairs. These other guys are all wading through the water.
They're giving me the computer. They're giving Devin was like,
what do you need. I'm like, the computer, yeah, you know,
and get me the strat, get me the this case,
this case, brown case, you know. And we're just pulling
instruments up for about a half an hour and the
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pit's black. I'm soaked, everybody's you know, And I cancel
the uber and my dad called me and he's like Hey,
do you want some help. I'm like yeah, because because
he was out and whatever. So he drove down, parked
behind the officers, and I was just gonna start loading
up some guitars into his car. And the first guitar
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that I grabbed was the Stratocaster and it belongs to Caleb. Well,
it belongs to the studio, doesn't belong to me. I
was the one who bought it. I didn't grab my
guitar first. This Strata is on every track. It's a
very important sentimental piece, but it's also one of the
best guitars in the studio. So I grabbed that one first,
mainly because like carrying two was like carrying one hundred pounds.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
And then I'm carrying it toward my I see my dad,
see the cop cars.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
And then all of a sudden, I hear where's your uber?
Speaker 5 (27:51):
And it's the officer from earlier in the day, Jonathan
earn Hart. He starts yelling at me and he's like,
where's your uber. I'm like, dude, I canceled my uber.
You're letting people in the building. I'm at this point,
I'm like I don't want to deal with this. I
can feel my blood getting hotter. And he goes, you
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lied to him and you said you own this building,
and you lied and you said you were getting I'm like, dude, please, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
It was crazy.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
And he looked, he literally looked at me, and he's like, listen,
I've had a really long day.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Oh my god, my god.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
So this is yeah my blood.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
This is where my blood went from boiling to just
like overflowing the pot. And and I was like, you've
had a long day. And I said, and I started
running my mouth and I shouldn't have run my mouth.
And when I run my mouth, it runs. And then
so he's like, you're on body cam right now, I'll
arrest you right now. He had no reason to arrest me.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
I was. I was threatening.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
So what I did was I leaned the stratocaster case
on my leg and I put my hands up and
I was like, go ahead and arrest me. If if
you're gonna arrest me, go ahead and just do it.
Like he had no reason to, right, so he couldn't.
And he grabbed the guitar and he threw it toward
my father's car. Oh go far in defense of this officer,
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mister Officer Earn Hardt. I will say, in his defense,
he didn't know what he was throwing. No, he like,
he shows up to a you know, cops have a
hard job. They show up to like like scenes all
the time, Like this guy's getting thrown out of his house,
grab his suitcase and get out of here, you know.
So so in his defense, he didn't know what he
was throwing, but he threw. Doesn't make it okay, though,
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and that's the point of this story. So he throws
the guitar and that's when I lost my mind. I'm
still in the air and I'm now I'm like all
the things that you could say to a cop that
you're not supposed to say, I'm saying, but I'm I'm
non threatening, like I wasn't doing anything wrong. And so finally,
thank god it was my dad who was there, because
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because I would have ended up in cuffs.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
You out there.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
He was like, he grabbed the guitar, he put it
in the car, He got me in the car and
he's like, let's just go. I'm like, I have other
stuff to get, and the cops like, you're not going
back in that building.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
It's crime scene. I'm like, you're other people.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
They're literally literally Connor, Connor, I, I, I, everybody, whoever else.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
He hasn't shown up yet.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
No, I showed up maybe about an hour after this
all I called him.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
I went home like I'm like screaming. Caleb's like, Jesus
es I know.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
I'm just like now I have to now go and
get all of the rest of the time as much
as I could carry it out.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
And I'm not saying like I believe that officer Earnhardt
caused the scene, but but I didn't. But I was
very much part of the scene. So I get home,
I opened the case. I noticed at the back of
the back of the neck the guitar is damaged and
it's still being looked at.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
It could have been water damage, but.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
It's it's very likely a combination of both. So I
took it and this this is a shameless plug. This
is a shameless plug. And then then I'll talk about
the salvage operation.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
Yeah, let me, but before you do that, sure, I
noticed the guitar was damaged, So I did the right thing,
and I filed police report against this officer for damaging
our property. And I get a phone call two days
later from what I just think is a supervisor.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
I was talking to the captain of the National Police
Department and he told us to come. He asked me
to come down, and so I immediately called Caleb, grab
the evidence. Let's go, because because Caleb's first like this
was an impact that it could Yeah, he'll he'll tell
you all about how the wood is on the guitar
and all that. But we get to the police department
and I said, I hope you don't mind I brought.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I brought my partner with.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Me, and he goes, well, I would have liked to
heads up, and then we sit down in the chair.
What this guy thought was gonna be like he thought
he was going to reprimand me for yelling and being
a bad boy. But and he was like, you know,
he was going to throw a couple bucks because they
do have funds in police departments, like if they have
to kick in a door during a fire or during
during a scene that the state, the city or the
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state will take care.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Of like the door hinges for the landlord and stuff.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
So he thought it was just gonna be like a
little okay, you shouldn't have been mean, and we're gonna
like pay for something. That's not what happened, though. I
was like, no, no, no, your officer threw my guitar. He goes, well,
I saw you on the bodycam footage and you weren't
being nice. And I was like, I know I wasn't
being nice, but my hands were in the air. I
was not threatening. But did you happen to catch on
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the bodycam footage your officer throwing the guitar? He said no,
I didn't see that. I haven't talked to the officer yet.
He just kept stumbling over himself because he thought he
was just gonna slap some stupid long hair musician on
the wrist, of course, but instead he got me, so
I started unloading on him, not again, not knowing he was.
I just thought he was like, yeah, Supervisor, that was
not smart. I think you've assumed too much of officer. Well, yeah,
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in any event, Officer Captain Welsh continuously told me to
not say that his officer was lying. But if his
officer said that he didn't throw the guitar, he's lying,
you know. Like lying is very simple. If if you
know something is the truth and you say the opposite,
then that's a lie. So I kind of got into
it with Welsh and they're there now can his head dropped.
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He's like, this is not how I thought the conversation
was going to go. Now I have to do an investigation.
And he's, you know, given the whole you know, Officer
earn Hard, he's a good guy.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Of course.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
I'm like, I'm like, look man, he's a good guy,
and he made a mistake. This whole time, I've recognized
that it was an accident. Sure, but if I hit
your car tomorrow with my car and it's my fault,
I have to pay for that accident. That was a
reason they call it for calling an accident. We just
want the guitar replays.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (33:50):
I hope they do the right thing repair replace that. Yeah,
I I don't.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
I don't really care which it is.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
But but then I brought Caleb with me and he'll
talk to the This is where Caleb can.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
So we had the meeting with Officer Welch. I I'm
of the opinion it probably could have gone better.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
But it's all good man, and and you know, I
just I explained to him.
Speaker 6 (34:14):
I was like, I checked out the guitar and I
was like some of this, Yeah, the glue was loosened
up by the water, but some of it to me
kind of looks like impact that case. Yeah, And I
mean the case showed a little bit of scuffing on
the top where the headstock would have been in the case,
and that's probably the crappiest part the thing to land on.
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But yeah, it's a Strat's a bolt neck guitar, and
it's got a skunk stripe. So it's got the piece
of wood on the back of the neck that contains
the trust rod in there, and that piece had delaminated
and kind of.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Twisted a little bit.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
And usually if and I've seen some other flood damage
strats and Telly's that have the skunk strip right, And
usually what happens is the glue gets loosened up a
little bit and it usually uniformly delaminates on one side
or the other of the skung stripe. Just yeah, because
the pressure of the wood pushing against itself, it just
wants to uniformly delaminate.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
It had kind of twisted in there, and.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
I'm looking at it and I'm like, man that you know, yeah,
water loosened it up, But I don't think I don't
think that that neck movement happened, but just by water
water doing it, because I mean, I knew the guitar.
The neck was pretty stable on the thing, and strangely,
even with the impact, the next staid barely stable, like
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the guitar.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Wasn't in tune.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
But it definitely it definitely bared. Like I mean, the
body of the guitar is totally fine. It's just the neck. Yeah,
just the neck that got.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
A little bit screeny.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
But yeah, yeah, the guitar repairs. Yeah, I just just repaired.
And I took it up and this is a shameless
plug to the music text here in Manchester. They're a great,
great guy, do awesome work. I took it up to
Doug McCormick and Seth oh.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Yeah, and yeah, I've known Doug a long time.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Yeah, yeah, Doug. Doug's fantastic. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (36:09):
And and Doug wasn't the one who looked at the
strat really he he's going to handle another restoration project.
It's actually the second time he's taking on this this guitar,
because it's the second time it's been in total disrepair unfortunately.
But the fender he U or Seth looked at the
fender and he was like, yeah, we can at the
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very word, you know, at the very worst, we'll just
pop a new neck on it.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yeah, and then that'll be fine.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
And I'm sure he'll find a neck that's like, you know,
within ninety percent similar to it. The one thing that well,
we'll kind of suck about that is we won't have
the uh, the serial number on it. It was a
it was a two thousand, two thousand neck. And you know,
even if we replace the neck, it permanently devalues the instrument.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
It's no longer you know, I mean that was it.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
Literally in twenty twenty five, that guitar became a did
the guitar?
Speaker 2 (37:01):
You know? Crazy? Yeah, it's really really weird.
Speaker 6 (37:04):
I bought it a couple of years ago, you know,
just as a used strat, just because the studio needed
a strat. We needed something that was serviceable and was
gonna last a long time.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
Yeah, every track, it's every one of my tracks, a
ton of tunes. I can't think of one song that
I didn't. I mean, the strat is the most first
satile guitar in the history of guitars.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Arguably I disagree with.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
Of course, you know, but I mean it's most most
certainly is one of one of the most iconic, I mean,
every you know, if you've ever heard Sweet Home Alabama,
you've heard of Stratocaster.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Yeah, there's a picture Jimmy Hendricks right there there.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
You Oh yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 6 (37:47):
Some of the most iconic songs you've ever heard. I
recorded on one of them. And you know, I'm not
even really a strat guy.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I just need neither of us, are.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
We just we just need one in the studio, you know,
if you're just joining us, we have Jesse Rutstein and
Caleb Dire. I almost sit it again, whatever, I just
say Jesse and Caleb from records word.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
So I didn't mean to wed. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
I didn't mean to get so off on that part
of the story because that is such a minuscule piece
of this puzzle. We just hope Nashville PD does the
right thing because I'm doing a lot of shows right now,
and like the Bad Burger show that came out like
they just came out swinging. They don't, they're not even
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they weren't even really associated with us and came out
swinging and then Peddlers came out and then San Francisco
Kitchen and Nashua. So between those three shows alone, we've
done over seven thousand dollars. Yeah, and uh, you can
donate through the Salvation Army just so everybody knows. Eleanor
from Terminus New Hampshire Underground set up a link where
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people can donate and between our contributions and people that
have been coming to the shows, and like we've raised
all this money and we have a really big one
coming up on February, February seventh, and and that's going
to be at the Backstreet Bar and Grill. That's going
to be like an all day festival style with some
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really great bands to be announced. We haven't gotten confirmation
on every band, but we do know that obviously I'm
going to be there.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
The Faith and Band is going to be there.
Speaker 5 (39:32):
No More Blue Tomorrow's is going to be there, and
and and if I'm I'm missing, I know I'm missing
people and I'm sorry, Dead Harrison, I'm wearing it.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Yeah shirt nice. They're going to be down there too.
I would love to get Dead Time on that bill.
Speaker 5 (39:44):
Yeah, where we're we're working with them. And then on
the is it the sixteenth of this month or seventeenth. See,
I had it already the sixteenth. Lacy who I am
is putting on a show at Photies and she's had
when we come down and we're going to do a
show at Photis that weekend also to benefit so excellent.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
The thing is, like, I just I really.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
Want to focus on because I'm not accepting any donations.
Jesse rudstein Brand is not accepting any donations, no gofundmes.
I didn't lose what other people lost, right, you know?
Speaker 6 (40:22):
We we are indirectly we are taking donations. If you
would like to donate three streets, yes, if you If
you would like to donate to the effort that we're
putting on, it's through a zephy link, OK, not not
a go the go fundmes that are out there, and
please do donate to those as well if you are able.
Those are all to benefit individual musicians that were in
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the building or bands or what have you. But the
the only one, the only formal operation was us. We
were the only one that had like some formal governance
structure in any way, shape or form, and so we're
trying to use that nonp off its status to receive donations,
try to help people who donate to us give you
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a tax receipt, you know, help you out come tax time.
But you know, uh so if you if you want
to donate, we've got a Zephi link we can point
you to that.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
You can find it not only.
Speaker 6 (41:16):
Through Tree Streets stuff, but you can also find it
through New Hampshire Underground and Ellen Orchishu is the one
who set it up.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
But that any money given to that.
Speaker 6 (41:23):
Benefits Tree Streets Incorporated, which is David Patterson myself, and
we're you know, if if you want to see where
all the money's going, yeah, well you know we're publishing that.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
So okay, excellent, good But yeah, it's we're doing We're
doing some good, you know, and it stinks that we
have to. That's like, that's a story, right, I'm getting
like I wanted to release my record and start gigging
in twenty twenty six to support it.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yeah, I couldn't wait. I couldn't wait. Yeah, and a
little bit of a delay. Well, but the.
Speaker 5 (41:57):
Amount of exposure that I'm getting from this five here
is probably more than I would have got from the record,
So I'm not trying I'm not trying to capitalize on
a horrible thing. I just it feels good to do
right by the folks, you know, And I just wish
I didn't have to do that, because they.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
They It's strange how the world works. It really is, man.
I mean, we just you know, but you keep on
keeping on.
Speaker 5 (42:25):
Just keep it, keeping it all positive and looking looking
to the future.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Hatchet Action Saw is not dead. We just burned. We
just got burned. On a positive note.
Speaker 6 (42:35):
On a positive note, I have happy news to report
about the equipment. So, as Jesse articulated earlier, we really
didn't suffer any fire damage in the basement.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
It's pretty much all.
Speaker 6 (42:47):
Water, so there was a lot of stuff that was submerged. However,
one thing that is pretty good about some of these
old electronics is that they're actually fairly resilient water damage,
especially if you just let it out for a whole
long time. So, yeah, the computer was toast, which sucks. However,
(43:09):
the SSDs, we were able to rip them out of
the computer and you know, process that information onto a
new machine.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Excellent. So there's an immediate win.
Speaker 6 (43:18):
That's why we're going to be able to re release
or release anything that we will be able to do
come this March. In addition to that, I've been going
through test and amplifiers. I just last night played a
gig with a V four B that we had down there,
very very nice base amp costs quite a bit of money,
and two by fifteen, a vintage acoustic two by fifteen
(43:42):
cab base cab, and that base rig absolutely slams and
that head was totally completely submerged, totally submerged, water, totally underwater.
When I grabbed it out of the basement there were
at least three inches of water on top of where
the handle was. Oh my god, you know, yeah, so
it totally submerged in that amp. When I turned it
(44:04):
on yesterday before I went to or I should say
two days ago testing it for yesterday.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
When I played the gig, it just fired up. That's amazing,
fired right up, and and man it you know, thumped
all the same. That's incredible.
Speaker 6 (44:20):
And I'm expecting that most of the amplifiers, given that
I've given him about four weeks to dry out, most
of the amplifiers I think are going to turn on.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
I haven't tested them all. I've tested the the.
Speaker 6 (44:33):
An amplifier that we literally bought in three days before
the fire.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Oh really, yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (44:40):
It was a nineteen sixty eight Lafayette is a nice
old vintag jamp. I bought it out in Swansea off
of a guy who was an amp technician, and he
knew what he had, but he was just like, yeah,
I'm willing to I'm willing to let this.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Go and and go to go to a good home. Yeah.
And I had put it down there.
Speaker 6 (44:55):
I had, I had play tested it, and you know,
and then the fire happens and I'm thinking, I hope
that thing survives. The way that the amp is designed,
it's like taller than it is wide. So the amp
never actually saw water, actually didn't.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
The speakers did.
Speaker 6 (45:16):
The lower speakers saw water, but the actual amp was
totally untouched. And I that was one of the first
amps that I tested, and it just fired right up.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Nice. There's a lot of.
Speaker 6 (45:28):
Stuff like That's some stuff that's a little more questionable. Unfortunately,
both of my keyboards were totally submerged, even in their
road cases. The b X three, which is a vintage
eighties like Corg b X three very it's yeah, right,
literally can't be replaced.
Speaker 5 (45:47):
They stopped making them and it can find when it
costs more than yeah, yeah we should be spending on yeah.
Speaker 6 (45:54):
More than what we should be spending on that. And
that thing got soaked and it's still buried in rice
right now, so I'm gonna have to go and vacuum
that all.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
Oh so in theory there might be hope still.
Speaker 5 (46:06):
So so no matter that seems to be the theme. Yes, yes,
it's it's miraculous that all these things are surviving.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
I followed all of.
Speaker 6 (46:15):
The procedures and protocols for for salvage and electronics. Man,
so there's there's a high likelihood that it will turn
on okay, even if it doesn't work one hundred percent
because this thing was built in like nineteen eighty three
in Japan. There was actually some Japanese person that point
to point wired this whole thing, so you know, it's
(46:35):
not built like a modern PCB board equipment.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
So it's it's it's.
Speaker 6 (46:43):
Definitely salvageable no matter what. It's a matter of how
much money do you want to sink actually repairing it,
But those sorts of things are worth putting it into.
The The other major thing, which I got a shout
out to my father, Mitch Dyer. He he came down
in a couple of days and he helped lug out
(47:05):
the ham and B three that we had down there,
and that that if if I mean if listeners out there,
no HAMM and B three under normal circumstances, generally takes
about four people to move it safely. Yeah, and to
have one that's water logged and all kinds of screwed up.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Yeah, it was rough. However, because my.
Speaker 6 (47:24):
Father is a mechanical genius, we basically were able to
do it with two people.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (47:31):
The way we rigged it up, you know, we locked
on the tone wheel and did all we had to
do to get it ready to move. But we we
rigged up a chain fall and we just we we
took in the building. There's some four inch cast iron
pipe that's just like hanging for for drain lines and stuff. Yeah,
just old old cast iron pipe. It's stuff that guys
wouldn't use today. But it was perfect for us because
(47:53):
we could rig up all kinds of like toast strapping
and chain fall up there and we could support the
weight of this organ just oh my god, for cast
iron pipe with the hang Oh yeah wow. So so
it only took two of us to to actually move
it up and out.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
Do you have video of that? Did you take video?
Speaker 6 (48:08):
Yeah, so we didn't take video, but we we we
got pictures of the rag and uh it kind of
surprised people because we did put out a call to help.
That morning, I put out a Facebook post like, hey,
if anyone has extra time this to make this safe,
you know, really even just a pair of eyes or
what have you. But but no, we we got it done.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Just just the two of us.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
Amazing and uh yeah, we we we.
Speaker 6 (48:34):
Absolutely did make it out of there with that B
three within a couple of days that that that thing
is uh, it's gonna get rebuilt, it's gonna go down.
And here's another shameless plug to someone who doesn't get
nearly enough recognition in the Keys community. Tyler dre Bick
down in Summerville at Boss, Oregon. He's actually originally from
(48:55):
up here in New Hampshire and he does incredible work.
He's he's probably and I mean I think he knows this.
He's one of the foremost Hammond organ techs in the world.
He you know, he does ham and teching for you know,
touring act guy guys in touring acts you you know,
and he's gonna be the one who's gonna be taken
(49:17):
on the job. I get to deliver the organ to
him at the end of the month, end of January
or maybe beginning. It kind of depends on when his
space exactly frees up.
Speaker 5 (49:27):
But one of the one of the most amazing things
about this situation that just landed in my lap five
years ago being a part of Tree Streets Incorporated, Uh,
not only just the support from Dave and Caleb, but
the fact that we had things like a ham and
B three with a Leslie rotating cab at our fingertips. Nowadays,
(49:49):
when you hear organ in the song, if you hear
organ in the song, it's it's usually just like a
setting and it's fine, like that's what we do when
we play live. But on Lost in It All featuring
Faith in the single that's the single that's uh that we're.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Trying to get rolling, Yeah, that's a real organ.
Speaker 5 (50:09):
On Dear Baby Gene, which which is a a what
didn't start as as a song that was going to
be prominently organ driven. Yeah, it's a real hamm and
it's like it's like what ray Man Xeric used on
those Doors records.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
Well, no, he used a Vox but yeah, stop correcting, Not.
Speaker 5 (50:29):
That wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
That wasn't a B three.
Speaker 6 (50:31):
No, no, he used a Vox Continental but no, kidding,
show my ignorance and a Fender Roads based baby.
Speaker 5 (50:38):
I knew about the Fender room. But in any event,
it's the fact that we had all these wonderful instruments
and and what Caleb and Dave put together.
Speaker 6 (50:50):
It's if you build it, they will come, and I did.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (50:55):
But so so we dug into the computer computers for
hard drive.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
Is okay?
Speaker 5 (51:02):
That the most important thing means we have all the
stems for all the songs.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
Good.
Speaker 5 (51:06):
And so the title track of the of the album
that was meant to be Superhero Toys, and it's a
song about my son, my son's actually, and they were
on the track, so I like, I don't want to
give it too much a way about the song, but
at the end of the song we repeat the chorus
(51:27):
and all the kids are on it, and we do
some like Pink Floyd's style like recordings in the background
of kids like like stuff throughout the years. So, but
one thing that was really special to me was Junior's
my son. He's twenty. He's a marine, so he's not around,
and he wanted to take I have my son Jackson
(51:49):
on the track. There's the last verse is about when
he's born and how me and Junior now like it's
our job to make him a man. And he sang
on this track two years ago when we started it,
and we just kind of never finished it, but we
decided to add it to the record and it ended
up becoming the title track, and so Jackson sang on
(52:10):
it again when he was fourteen. So that's the kind
of stuff I was scared to lose, having him at
eleven singing on the track, and then having him at fourteen,
so both of those voices were there, Like I can't
get him at eleven again, I can have him redo
the track tomorrow we set up. So those are the
things that I was thinking about, and honestly, I felt
(52:34):
selfish every time I thought about it, because these people
lost their homes.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
I lost some songs, but.
Speaker 5 (52:39):
I got a roof in a bed, which is one
of the main reasons why I was like laser focused
on making sure people knew that I wasn't taking money
from this. I want to make sure people know that
we are doing everything we can to help the folks
that no longer have a roof in a bed, like
they were getting put up at the old middle school.
(53:00):
Read that's where that's where they were staying. Like I
was staying in my room, you know what I mean?
Like I was, I was cooking breakfast the next day
in my kitchen.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
You know, so so I.
Speaker 5 (53:12):
But but now that we are making sure that in
the Salvation Army has been great. I forget the gentleman's
name that was the contact. I believe it's Dave something,
but he's working closely with the families to make sure
that that all our donations are going through.
Speaker 2 (53:27):
And good. Now now that and I.
Speaker 5 (53:31):
Jokingly said, like the first week after all this, because
any anybody who sees me so the news, you know
what's going on with the fire all, I like, I'm like,
I'll be sad next month about my music because I
thought it was gone, and now it's my month to
be sad about. You know, I could be a little
bit selfish. And I get a text from Dave the
(53:51):
other night. I was literally out having a couple a
couple drinks at the Blues blues Bar and I look
I looked down at the phone and they sent me
a message with all my folders. Yeah, man, I cried.
I cried at the bar. I don't even wow, just
like tears filled my eyes and it's all there.
Speaker 2 (54:14):
It's all there. You don't know when we're going to
mix it.
Speaker 5 (54:17):
I'm gonna put a I'm gonna put a date on
it at some point, but right now, what we're going
to do is we're going to re release my EP
with merchandise and start getting out there and uh playing
it live. So the re release is for me personally,
this is this is this is just my plug, not
not a benefit. My re release is on February ninth,
(54:38):
we're re releasing the EP, and then on March seventh
at Bad Burger, we're doing a a record release party
or an EP release party, and my my full band
will be there, and we have two wonderful bands that
are going to be on the bill as well, The
Tumble Toads and the Faith and Band are going to
(54:59):
also be the on the seventh of March at Bad Burger,
and we are gonna that's gonna be a party.
Speaker 2 (55:04):
It's gonna be a ticketed event.
Speaker 5 (55:05):
There'll be money at the door and merchandise, so if
you want a shirt with my ugly mug on it,
you can come down and check it out.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
But we're really really excited to I'm excited to be
releasing it.
Speaker 5 (55:19):
I wanted Superhero Toys to be on it. Like the
seventeenth of December was when it was supposed to come out.
Speaker 2 (55:26):
My son's birthday.
Speaker 5 (55:27):
Oh yeah, every one of my releases has has a meeting,
even February ninth. I'm like, I want to release in February.
What's a good February date. Well, it happened. February ninth
happens to be the sixty thirty anniversary of when the
greatest band of all time appeared on the Ed Sullivan
Show and change rock and roll, you know, and and
and pretty much made me want to do what I
(55:49):
want to do, you know, through.
Speaker 2 (55:51):
My father and stuff.
Speaker 5 (55:52):
Yeah, excuse me, so everything, everything has a special date.
But I really wanted to come out on the seventeenth.
It's not gonna but buckle up, everybody. Twenty twenty six,
we're we're ripping it and you.
Speaker 6 (56:04):
Might even get a single release of one of my
originals that made it through Nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's
some some music of mine that is as of yet
unheard by the world.
Speaker 2 (56:16):
Okay, okay, this absolutely.
Speaker 6 (56:18):
Wonder this, this fire has kind of made me realize
that I should probably just publish it.
Speaker 3 (56:23):
Yeah, good, good, Well we look forward to that. Guys,
we're almost out of time. I'm thinking I was going
to close out the segment. We'll play Lost in It
all that single with faith and got that cute up
and ready. Anything you want to just remind people before
we wrap up the hour, what what they should know
about what's coming up?
Speaker 6 (56:40):
Well, if if you'd like to catch me tonight, I'm
actually going to be playing a bad Burger a ten
pm tonight.
Speaker 2 (56:46):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (56:46):
I'll be with the brad New Bay Band's kind of
a weird bill. There's like two metal bands and then
a blues band in the middle of it. Okay, you know,
but if you want to catch a forty five minute
set of some some ripping blues tonight, I'll be here
at ten pm.
Speaker 2 (56:59):
Nice also, uh, actually, no, that's it.
Speaker 5 (57:05):
I would love to end the segment by saying thank
you to everybody who supported me. From family, friends, other
musicians are our community, our music community. In southern New
Hampshire is uh is really special?
Speaker 2 (57:19):
Agreed?
Speaker 5 (57:19):
And and you know you got Gary coming in next.
And that guy's in every single band in the music community.
Speaker 3 (57:28):
I always say he's the busiest musician I know.
Speaker 2 (57:30):
I playing with Gary soon. Yeah, excellent week.
Speaker 5 (57:33):
So I say thank you to the bands, to Eleanor
and Terminus Underground. I want to say thank you to
to family and friends who have supported us, anybody who's donated,
and and everybody that's keeping this, keeping this rolling.
Speaker 3 (57:48):
Thank you, absolutely, thank you, well said guys, thank you,
thank you for coming in and this has been this
has been wonderful. And uh yeah, if you are listening
live on Saturday, Gary Smith is joining us next and
right now, let's hit this track. This is Lost in
it All Jesse Rudstein featuring Faith Inn. We made plans
(58:23):
to see the bed because my friend plays ron.
Speaker 5 (58:29):
It's been a long week.
Speaker 4 (58:31):
Cannot can I can't wait again in all time it
sounds I gotta let the episode of a.
Speaker 5 (58:39):
Wag loose my some to sit.
Speaker 8 (58:42):
Here, good, to.
Speaker 4 (58:44):
Have a little fun, baby get served. It's just something
about using wait the know please makes me again up
about my team getting.
Speaker 8 (59:05):
Bosting it all because we all work. God, we getting
lost at it all.
Speaker 3 (59:16):
Somebody then be there.
Speaker 4 (59:18):
We're gonna sit right in and we get lost.
Speaker 8 (59:21):
In at it all. They've been out in a long time.
Speaker 3 (59:28):
Then I just line in joy if I know
Speaker 1 (59:53):
I ain't seen this, tir little lost
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