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Five point three right now the world radio premiere of
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So the shock chose one.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I just wanted to let that fade out. That's so cool.
That is it's pretty intense. That's short term solution. The
band is the Gray Curtain and we've got Dennis and Troy.
We're gonna speak with them in just a moment. Welcome everybody,
if you are listening live on Saturday. We have entered
our number two New Marrow dose of Matt Connorton Unleashed
and we are live from the studios of w m
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New Hampshire. Today is Saturday, October four, twenty twenty five.
Jenny is here, of course, at the news tablet for
and let's talk with these guys. Dennis, you've been on
the show before. Of course, you've been on a couple
of times now, right.
Speaker 13 (10:26):
I've been on the show with you guys twice, one
in person, one over the phone.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Oh that's right, that's right. Yes, And Troy, this is
your first time, you're right.
Speaker 14 (10:36):
Yeah, yeah, thanks for having me. It's it's great to
be here. This is actually the first time on the radio.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
It's oh no kidding, yeah yeah, really cool to you know,
be here.
Speaker 14 (10:43):
And oh well, welcome experience.
Speaker 13 (10:45):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
What do you do in the band?
Speaker 13 (10:47):
I play guitar?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Okay, okay, excellent, excellent. So the song we just heard,
short term Solution, is that new? Is that a new
single or no?
Speaker 15 (10:54):
No?
Speaker 13 (10:54):
Short term is part of the first album Shadow of
a Man. Okay, came out around fourteen fifteen sixteen.
Speaker 10 (11:04):
And.
Speaker 13 (11:06):
Yeah, it's one of the older tracks.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Yeah yeah, Now what is the meaning of that song
because obviously, I mean there must be a reason that
you chose that for today. That was one of the
one of the ones you sent us.
Speaker 13 (11:17):
Well, we talked a bit off air about this. But
during twenty twelve, I was going At twenty eleven twenty twelve,
I was going through a like a downward spiral where
I was kind of alienating everybody around me and going
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through a very dark period of my time, my life,
and basically drinking myself into an early grave. The entire
album Shadow of a Man is based on that time,
where I would get up in the morning, drunk, start drinking,
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go over to the bar, spend most of my money
at one bar until they told me to leave, Go
to the next bar in my hometown, drink until they
told me to leave, go home, pass out, wake up,
do it all over again.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
And I.
Speaker 13 (12:23):
I remember a quote at a show at a benefit
that we were playing that suicide is a a permanent
solution to a short term problem. And that's kind of
what kind of jolted that song into into existence, because
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drinking was always my short term solution to getting through
the day, because the moment I would sober up, I'd
have to face reality and I didn't want to do that.
But luckily, this album, this project, as UH has helped
me and in a lot of ways, get through a
lot of my demons. I still suffer a lot of days,
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and unfortunately people around me thankfully have a lot of
tolerance for that.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (13:20):
I I guess that's the word. I'm tolerated by by
a lot of people in my life. You, Dennis, thanks man.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
I was gonna say, you're obviously you know, valued and loved,
you know, I mean, you know, it's it's it's not
it's not tolerating you. It's you know, obviously these people
care for you a great deal.
Speaker 14 (13:37):
It's it's definitely like that album in particular, it's like
it gives a voice to, like, you know, all these
problems that a lot of people have in their lives,
and it's that that the throes of addiction and and
just getting through it like that.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely do Do people come up to
you at shows or contact you online who've who've listened
to this music and and kind of reach out and say, hey,
I I can relate to this ors helped me in
some way?
Speaker 13 (14:04):
Or yeah, yeah I when it first came out, it
not so much. I don't know what happened. Maybe the
maybe the environment has changed over the last few years,
where like talking about mental health has become okay.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yeah, I think I think it's much less stigmatized any.
Speaker 14 (14:29):
Yeah, definitely, I feel like has happened even more so
like post like pandemic. That's like everybody's coming out of
their houses and it's like you know what's going out
with you and just kind of spill your whole life
out to your your friends that you haven't seen in
a while.
Speaker 13 (14:43):
Oh yeah, I remember. I won't say names obviously, but
there was a young woman. We played out in uh
in Maine at a place called Charlie's Hill.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
That venue. The name of that venue comes up a
lot on the show. Apparently it's pretty cool.
Speaker 13 (15:00):
It's great. We played there once. We can't wait to
go back. They treat local bands like their nationals over there.
And I remember this one woman came up to me,
couldn't have been twenty one yet. And when I'm on stage,
I like to let people in the crowd, whether they
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whether they need it or not, I just want them
to know that if they feel isolated, if they feel alone,
you know, come to me, you know, because I know
what that feeling feels like. I know what it feels
like to isolate yourself, whether it's on purpose or because
you know, you just don't have anyone to talk to,
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and I've I had the chance to talk to her.
And she told me how she was having suicidal ideations
and she couldn't escape it no matter how hard she tried.
And we talked for a good three hours. And when
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I just I just remember her face when she approached me,
mascara coming down her face. And after she walked away,
I noticed there's were you still there, Troy? I might
have left me. There was a line of like probably
five six nine people wanting to like talk. Three o'clock
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in the morning, I'm still out in Maine talking to people.
My friend John who came with me, John Foley to John, Yeah,
he came with me, and I think it was like
eight o'clock in the morning. We finally got back to
the Wister area where we're from, and I, I don't
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know what, I don't know. I don't know how to
explain it. But I felt so much lighter, you know,
And I felt like I had actually done some good,
not just for myself, not just to spread message of
self awareness and making it okay to talk about these things.
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But I have always in my heart, I just I
always want to help people. I always want to let
people know that it's okay to not be okay. As
cliche as that's saying has become, it's it's true, and
it's the reason why it's become cliche is because you
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know it's important to have that in your head. And
that's really where where our music stems from. I talked
to you about this the last time I was here.
All of our music is based around a town called
the Town of Apathy, and I created that after reading
or it's not even reading, listening to a quote from
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Miller said the best way to get over a woman
is to turn her into literature. So I created this
town with all of my hurts, habits, hang ups, all
of my bullies, every bad memory I've ever had, and
created characters and put them in a town that they
can't escape. The first album, it's a fictional character by
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the name of Nathan Knopf loses the love of his
life and the album takes place the last day and
half of his life. Second album is about a different
character going through a different thing. Third album is going
to be about different characters going through a different thing,
but they're all going to be based around how people
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can relate to some form of mental illness. And more
than anything, I want these songs, these albums, the script
that we're writing to go along with it, the novel
that I've been working on. I want everything that we
do to help people and let them know that they're
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not alone. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Yeah, that's that's excellent. Yeah, we're starting to say some.
Speaker 14 (19:13):
Of the try Uh well, I guess to to piggyback
off of that, like with the the songwriting process in
particular with with like the script that he's writing. It's
it's cool to like have a feeling to attach to
like the music that we're writing, rather than like, here's.
Speaker 13 (19:33):
This cool song that I wrote.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah, yeah, this whole story.
Speaker 14 (19:36):
That we're trying to tell with with you know, the
script and the trying to fit the music into the
it's it's very interesting. And uh, especially also with the
shows that like I feel that like it's like after
we play the show, it's like that that weight has
come off, Like especially with these songs, it's it's almost
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like therapy. Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's you just kind
of let it all out.
Speaker 13 (20:05):
Yeah. Yeah, that's why we call our shows. That's why
we call our shows sermons rather than performances. That's why
we call our fan base the congregation rather than an
army or you know something like that. It's like, you know,
you come to our shows to feel something, you know,
and that's not a knock on any other band that
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we play with. We love this scene. I can go
back and forth with you all day. It's like, you know,
with some of the bands that we have played with
that deserve a lot more recognition than what they're getting.
But you know, time after time we play a show
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and we're usually middle or the beginning of the lineup,
and someone will always approach us and say, you guys
are a breath of fresh air. No one's doing what
you're doing. And I think that's kind of sad because
there are bands that are doing what we're doing. You know,
they're just not getting the opportunities that we're getting, right
And uh, don't get me wrong, I appreciate every opportunity,
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of course, you know, but yeah, like just off the cuff,
the Big Son, we were talking about those guys on
the way here. You know, a great group of kids.
You know, they sound like tool before they got rich,
they you know, before they lost the hunger, you know,
Scarecrow Hill. Oh yeah, I love them. We had them
on yeah, and I listened to that interview. Was the
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first time that I had ever been name dropped. I
was like, oh, that's cool, you know, but you know,
Tyler lead singer Scarecrow is now our drummer, you.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Know he is.
Speaker 14 (21:42):
He loved us a batch, like we we kind of
built this friendship.
Speaker 13 (21:46):
With him, and he's like, I love you guys.
Speaker 16 (21:49):
That's awesome.
Speaker 13 (21:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (21:51):
I was kind of surprised to find out when he
you know, played drums and like he like we were
having issues finding drummers and yeah, like I mean, I'm
down to fill in with you guys. And then we
just kind of like begged him to be like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 13 (22:03):
Yeah, practically on our knees, like please Tyler, Oh wow, yeah,
oh that's cool. Yeah. Uh but yeah, we've had such
a connection with those guys since uh uh summer last
year when we played uh Electric CA's, and I think
we played like twelve or thirteen shows with them since uh.
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I've been on stage with them my handful of times,
just doing a couple of tracks here and there.
Speaker 16 (22:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (22:32):
Yeah, I can't say enough about how much I love
Scarecrow Hill. Yeah, fear of the masses. Love those guys, Anaria.
You know what a voice Jessica has, you know, it's
just uh yeah, My point being is this scene is
so it's filled with so much talent.
Speaker 16 (22:55):
Oh absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 13 (22:57):
Yeah. So when uh, when we get the opportunities that
we get, we like to share as much as we
possibly caneah, but like we're hungry, we want to we
want to venture out and you know, play around this country,
around this world, you know, just spread a message that
it's okay to not be okay, right. But I can't
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you know, I can't thank Troy enough to you know,
with being in this band. Everybody that has been part
of the Great Curtain over the last stuff God since
twenty fourteen, oh wow, yeah, over ten years. You know,
great group of musicians. You know obviously parted ways for
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one reason or another. Sure, but I can't say enough
good things about everyone who has taken part of this
journey with me over the last eleven years.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Yeah, you know, just now, did you how did you
guys come to work together?
Speaker 13 (24:00):
Take this?
Speaker 17 (24:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 14 (24:01):
So I, oh my god, how far back do I
go with this?
Speaker 13 (24:06):
Okay?
Speaker 14 (24:07):
So a band that was in a long time ago
Fatal Defiance. We'd actually played at the Bungalow before it
closed out and happy that that's actually coming back. But
I'd played a couple of shows with our bass player,
Sean his band in Many, so we kind of got
to know each other through that. And then a few
years later, like we started, you know, like, hey, do
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you want to try to get something together here and
work on some stuff. And then a few months after that,
he makes a post on Facebook like, Hey, any of
my friends that played guitar are interested enjoining a band?
So I was like hi, me hi, and he's like, yeah,
check out Great Curtain. We were looking for guitar players.
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I guess he was gonna play guitar before but wanted
to play bass. Yeah, so yeah I checked it out
and it's I like fell in love with the music instantly. Yeah,
It's like that there was something very special about this
band that I I just really wanted to be part
of and really happy to be part of it. Yeah,
thank you Dennis for that.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Were you there from the beginning? That's are you an
original member or no?
Speaker 8 (25:10):
No no.
Speaker 10 (25:10):
I joined.
Speaker 14 (25:12):
God probably two years ago.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Oh okay, so you're so you're relatively new then.
Speaker 13 (25:18):
Yeah, yeah, I'm the only original member left.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Okay, okay, yeah, is it is it challenge? Has it
been challenging it all over the years with you know,
like you said, you know, people come and they go.
I mean, has that been Has that been a challenge
for you? Or is it has been relatively easy to
find people who fit the project.
Speaker 13 (25:35):
Or honestly, in this area, it's very tough.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Uh.
Speaker 13 (25:39):
And again I'm an eclectic music lover. Yeah, so this
is like, but this scene, it is mostly metal and
at least what I've seen, and our friends in the
metal community like to make it very known to us
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we are not a metal band.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
It's like that.
Speaker 13 (26:04):
I know, I know we're not, but so it's it's
difficult when it's like, Okay, I need my eclectic musician
friends to come and do this project with me that
already has two albums worth of music, and some some musicians,
you know, they don't want to do the whole theme album, right,
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the whole concept album thing, so they bow out as well.
Some musicians like Tyler are in multiple bands, you know,
so it's a it's tough and especially after someone leaves,
like so I started this band with Jim Miller and uh,
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when like when I got the opportunity to play at
Foxwood's it was our first show. He was the first
person I called. I became very close with him over
the past like the next almost decade, and it it really,
it really broke my heart when he, his brother, and
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our drummer at the time, Sean Different Sean all left because.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Wait, they all left it once. They all left it once.
Oh my god.
Speaker 13 (27:22):
Yeah, So it took me a while, not just to
find people, but you know, I I basically sat around writing,
doing the comic, doing the stories, and really contemplating if
I was even going to continue with this. Yeah, and
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I'm not gonna lie, you know, certain mental illnesses started
creeping in and I I was having a pretty difficult
time at the time because, uh, it wasn't exactly one
of those kind of separations where it was mutual. Oh okay,
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I would have gladly gone another ten twenty years with
those guys. Yeah, but yeah, I just decided that if
I couldn't do the Gray Curtain, I wasn't going to
do anything at all, because for me, it's a lot
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more than just playing music. It's the message. It's trying
like like I mentioned before, it's trying to help people,
and I luckily found well then fine, I was handed
in so many words, Joe Saferano for a drummer. Joe
plays for the Nagans, Raged the Stitches. He's I think
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he's in twenty two bands. I'm over exaggerating, but not
by much, not much. No great guy. And through Joe,
I was able to get a hold of Sean, who
much like Troy, I knew from when he was in Inman,
when he was fronting Inman, and I was able to
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get him on board. Through Sean, I was able to
get Troy. Joe left because as I mentioned, he's in
one hundred and twenty seven band. And so we we
struggled for a little while getting a permanent drummer, but
Tyler kept filling in, and finally Tyler, you know, gave
into our begging and now we have Tyler.
Speaker 17 (29:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (29:37):
We are currently searching for a synth keyboard player, okay,
and I don't know. I'm I'm open to all instruments
to play in this band. Yeah. But to to wrote
back into your original question, it gets difficult, it gets
it gets trying, it gets more to find it sometimes
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where you're You're just messaging people that you know over
and over again. It's like, hey, you know, what do
you think? What do you think? And they're like, I
don't know, man, you know, music is not really my thing.
I don't know, man. You know, I got this other
band that I'm working for. I don't know. Man, you know,
I'm you know, I kind of just look at it
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like like a hobby. That's the worst.
Speaker 14 (30:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, I hate that response. That's the funny.
There was the one guy that was like, you know,
he was all on board, all about it, and then
like what was it, like a day or two before
we bring him in. It's like he actually listened to
the songs and he's like, oh I had actually not
that into the music.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Wow.
Speaker 13 (30:43):
He said he was a big fan and everything I
was come on down. And then like two days before
his tryout, he's like, oh, actually, uh after listening to
the music, it's a little too sad for me.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Wow.
Speaker 13 (30:55):
I'm like, yeah, that's the point.
Speaker 16 (31:01):
Oh wow.
Speaker 13 (31:02):
Yeah. So it gets difficult because.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
We are.
Speaker 13 (31:07):
We are kind of like right in the middle there
where where this group's cup of tea by like a mile,
and then we're not this groups cup of tea by
by a mile, right, So it gets it gets difficult,
very very difficult sometimes.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Especially with drummers, right, because that's that's been a running
theme on the show over the years, like every drummers
in multiple bands because there's so few drummers.
Speaker 13 (31:30):
So few, so few.
Speaker 16 (31:32):
Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 13 (31:35):
Have nothing but love for the bands that have a
drummer that only drums for them. I wish I had
their magic. Just make a drummer up here like that,
like like Scarecrow's drummer, Brendan. I don't. I cannot stress
enough how amazing Brendan is. It's like before Tyler said
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that he would play with us, I was just like
what I And it's the same thing with the drummer
for the Big Son, Nick is just unreal, unreal talent.
So like there have been a couple of times where
I've been like, hey, let me let me talk to you.
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How you know serious? Are you with this band?
Speaker 10 (32:23):
No?
Speaker 13 (32:24):
But I wouldn't actually done that, right right, but uh,
you know I have like approached a couple of drummers
just to be like, hey, do you have the time
to maybe put another project in? But the answers usually no,
these like the drummers that I mentioned, Brendan and Nick,
like they are so passionate about this one project that
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they're in and rightfully so. Scarecrow's amazing, big sons amazing. Yeah,
but uh yeah, they would never be like, yeah, I
gotta split my time between you guys who are doing
like all of this stuff has an them to do
with music, right, you know, it's like we were a
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multi media type of project where you know, a lot
of bands are just strictly about the music, strictly about
enforcing what their message is. Yeah, and I like, I
completely understand their their point of view where it's like
you don't want to overload yourself, right, But like you said,
the scene is just deprived of it's a it's a
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desert trying to find a drummer that isn't in twelve band.
Shout out to Joe.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
If you're just joining us, we're talking with We have
Dennis and Troy here from the band The Gray Curtain
And uh so have you guys not been so with
the current situation? So you're looking for for a synth player.
So are you guys not playing shows currently or are
you Oh no, so what are you just doing it
without the keyboard. Yeah.
Speaker 13 (33:57):
Yeah. We we have a show at Ralph's Rock Diner
and Worcester on the tenth we have nice We have
a show at Terminus on the eleventh, Oh excellent with
all of our friends. That show a Terminus on the
eleventh is just family, It's Scarecrow Hill, it's Double Inside Us,
It's Fear of the Masses and it's us.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (34:19):
That show is just going to be fun.
Speaker 16 (34:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (34:21):
And then the twenty fifth we're playing that coll with
the Spectacular with Scarecrow Bands and Double Inside the Meagan's
Joe Soper. Oh, Thenigans and Rag the Stitches. Joe's playing
double duty on that show.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Oh excellent, excellent.
Speaker 13 (34:39):
Yeah. Uh but yeah, we're uh, we're still playing because
you know, you got to get the message out there.
You gotta keep uh keep you fresh in people's minds, yeah,
or else you get forgotten. I mean bottom line, Well, I.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Would imagine too, I mean it must be. It must
be kind of interesting, right if you're if you're playing,
you know, because you've had to p play with these
different configurations over the years. So if you have if
you have something that you know, maybe you want a
synth player, but you don't have a synth player, so
you got to do without. But that must be kind
of that must be kind of fun though in a way, right,
because isn't it doesn't it make it kind of more
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of a challenge, It's like, and it kind of it
makes it gives us songs a little bit of a
different different flavor, a different texture.
Speaker 13 (35:22):
Right, definitely.
Speaker 14 (35:22):
Yeah, it's like the the you know, having the limitations
kind of opens up the creativity kind of and like
you can find like a cool effect on your pedal, yeah,
to kind of fill in that space.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
And yeah, yeah, yeah. I was in a band years ago,
long time ago. I was in a band called First
Shove and First Shove you know, hardcore metal. We'd always
been a five piece and because we had two guitar
players and we had a guitar player leave and just
Rich Burke, who was kind of he was the only
original member of the band at that point, so he
was kind of the de facto leader. So we all
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kind of looked at him and he said, you know what,
I don't think we need to replace Dave. Let's just
be a four piece. So we just tried it, and
First Shove it had never been a four piece and
it was kind of fun. Actually, yeah, you know, I
mean it kind of changed the songs a little bit
because he didn't have the two guitars, right, Yeah, but
this sounded a little stripped down. I don't know, we
all kind of liked it. We played it show and
it was like, this is okay, we can do it
this way for a while.
Speaker 14 (36:13):
Yeah, there's particularly a few songs, especially like we kind
of take the keyboard out of it. It definitely, like
you said, strips it down and kind of gives it
more of like a raw kind of feeling, and it
brings it to a whole other place.
Speaker 16 (36:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (36:25):
Yeah, there are a few songs actually that Troy and
Sean have kind of modified so that part of what
the synth player would be playing is part of what
they're doing.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
There you go.
Speaker 13 (36:38):
But it's, uh, it's definitely a lot of fun now
that it's like, you know, they're learning the old material,
but we're also moving towards writing new material. Yeah, you know,
recording new material. It's it's honestly, I can't I know,
I'm gonna sound redundant here. I cannot thank the people
(37:00):
that are involved in keeping this thing going enough, like
even right down to like Eleanor from Terminus, you know
who hooked us up with you guys a year ago.
You know, like people that just it's like, you know,
these guys need or you know, dare I say, deserve
an opportunity. It's like, you know, check these guys out.
(37:22):
I cannot stress enough, Like how thankful I am for him,
for Sean, for everybody, yeah, everybody down the tone pole,
John Foley for giving us a place to play. Yeah,
my my script writing partner, April, you know, right down
to my kid, Yeah, you know, my kid killing you know,
all these people just keeping me going, keeping me afloat,
(37:45):
keeping me above ground as it were there you go.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Yeah, so yeah, so your script writing. So tell us
more about that. Is that the graphic novel you were
talking about or.
Speaker 13 (37:55):
No, they're two separate things. The graphic novel is going
to be a comic book based on the uh, the
Town of Apathy, which is the storyline that the albums
are based on. But the script is basically almost like
an episodic thing where I mean pipe dreams. You know,
(38:16):
it becomes a show all about the Town of Apathy,
and uh, you know, we'll include not just our music,
but we want to include like other musicians from this area,
like some of the bands that we mentioned. Uh but yeah.
The script is basically, if if my wildest dreams come true,
(38:38):
it'll be a TV show.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Okay, okay, excellent, outstanding. Why don't we let's play a
let's play a track. I wanted to sneak this in.
This is my okay, So selfishly, this is my personal
favorite of all the great and I've listened to everything.
I've listened everything that's available online. This is my personal favorite.
Burn that Bridge? What can you what can you t
(39:00):
us about this? Well? Actually this song.
Speaker 13 (39:04):
Was written by the Miller Brothers and Sean Donnellan long
before they met me. I wrote the lyrics. I wrote
the lyrics, yeah, but the they basically had like the
whole foundation. And when they told me what the title was,
I was like, well, this is going to be perfect
(39:26):
for The Florist. Yeah album. Yeah, and uh, you know
we just took it from there.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
All right, all right, let's give this a spin. This
is this is such a great song. So it's called
burn that Bridge. It's from the album The Florist, And
this is the Gray Curtain.
Speaker 11 (40:01):
Usty rope thinking about it, I'm pregnant face.
Speaker 10 (40:06):
I could never play sech a.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Ways to twenty two. In the end, I'll re all
my rest.
Speaker 13 (40:18):
I want to read.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
The raby front.
Speaker 7 (40:23):
I'm reason to get you. I'm like me chucking me
about dat Ramy prope let me ta.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
The woman rides shraps me a feeling a lot.
Speaker 7 (40:53):
I'm say, God sat a bottle the arter for one?
Why not read me from I'm nothing but I got it?
Sam doing what I'm doing at ramfo about I'm going
(41:15):
I don't anywhere because I'm not the first time.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
We mean time time.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
I love it that has burned that bridge. The band
is the Gray Curtain and we have Dennis and Troy
here with us live in studio, and uh yeah, that's
that's my favorite Gray Curtain track. So what's but we
should talk about? So I don't know how much you
want to say about the future, what the next project
is as far as music, but you want to you
want to talk about that.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Well as it goes.
Speaker 14 (43:41):
Right now, we got two songs that we're gonna be
tracking out for as singles, and we do we wanna
I think we've talked about it before. If we just
kind of want to do it kind of a double
album kind of thing. We got seven songs for each
one so far, and we kind of want to push
a few more on each one, but it's we got
(44:01):
some ambitious things coming.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (44:05):
And again, what I absolutely love is anyone that's in
this band always seems to have like this jolt of
energy to you know, do these stories with me. This
next story is going to be about two assassins, essentially,
and each story kind of interweaves as they're given. The
(44:28):
main antagonist of the town of Apathy is this demi god,
vengeful spirit from purgatory named schol and he's very bored
in this town because he's all powerful and everybody else
is weak underneath him. So he starts playing these little
games with his pets, and he hands one ten a
(44:50):
name of excuse me, a list of ten names, and
he gives another a list of ten names and says,
the first to kill every person on your list of
ten gets to leave this town. No strings attached. The albums.
I was hoping to do one for one killer and
(45:13):
one for the other killer, And there was like a
good couple of months there where I was afraid to
say anything realout it, because I was like, I don't know,
these guys are new. I'm going to come at them
with this double album idea and they're gonna be like, yeah,
I'm all about it.
Speaker 16 (45:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (45:31):
As soon as I told him, he.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Was like, sweet, good good, yeah, outstanding. Any kind of
an ETA off air? You said, twenty thirty Yeah, twenty
thirty three around there, twenty forty Yeah.
Speaker 13 (45:44):
I should right around the time I get an AARP card.
But you know, I'm I don't know, I'm I'm always
pushing for the next thing, which is another reason why
I use the word tolerate. You know, people tolerate me
for ex ended amount of time, you know, because I'm
always like, hey, you know, we got to keep going,
(46:05):
we got to keep pushing forward. We got to you know,
where are you at with this? You know where are
you at with that? I you know, I need to
work on this. So I'm gonna, you know, work on
this until you know, Saturday when we all get together
and I'm going to have like all this ready for
you guys, so be ready. Yeah, I'm a handful.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 16 (46:20):
Yeah, So that's what it takes, so right, it is,
but it gets it gets tiring for.
Speaker 13 (46:26):
People that are not on that level. We just want
to have fun with it. Yeah, yeah, you know, and
I get that. So, uh, what I'm hoping for is
a twenty early twenty twenty seven release, but you know,
if if I can twenty twenty six, but I think
(46:47):
that's pushing it.
Speaker 14 (46:48):
Yeah, I definitely want to like have all the songs,
you know, written it together by the end of twenty
twenty six. But yeah, yeah, I think I think that's
pretty achievable.
Speaker 13 (46:56):
Yeah, yeah, I think you're right, you know, have all
the songs ready by the end of twenty twenty six
and then record and get everything out, hopefully have the
graphic novel to go along with it. I've I've said
that for the last two albums, and none of them
have come out yet because it's just me. Yeah, yeah,
you know, I would love to have a team of
artists helping me out with this. Even with the script,
(47:19):
I didn't have, like I had like a couple of
pages here, a couple of pages there. But my brain
is my worst enemy, as we've talked about, so a
lot of times I would get like a couple of
pages in and just shut down. All it took was
one person to be like, all right, tell me the
story campfire style go and we're nearing a thousand.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
Pages, no kidding, Wow, okay, excellent.
Speaker 13 (47:45):
I'm hoping to do that with the graphic novel and
you know, the next album, the next I mean, there's
twenty chapters to this Town of Apathy storyline, so I'm hoping, yeah,
before the cancer takes over and I can't do this anymore,
I'm hoping to get it all out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so,
and I guess that's another reason why I push so hard,
(48:06):
you know, for like the timeline.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
Yeah, yeah, no, that makes sense, that makes sense. Well,
speaking of time, the time does go quickly. So before
we are going to play, we're gonna play one more song,
going to finish out the segment. But I want to
make sure remind us when the next show is or
the next couple of shows. And also where is the
best place for people to go online to keep up
with everything that the Great Curtain is doing?
Speaker 13 (48:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 14 (48:28):
Yeah, we got Ralph's Rock Diner and Worcester on the tenth,
and then Terminus on the eleventh excellent, excellent, Codo Lowell
on the twenty fifth.
Speaker 13 (48:38):
Okay, yeah, and then yeah, selfish plug. I have an
art show at Terminus on the seventeen.
Speaker 16 (48:45):
Oh you do yeah?
Speaker 13 (48:47):
Oh wow, yep, Eleanor is allowing me to, for the
first time ever, put my art up for display.
Speaker 3 (48:54):
Oh congratulations.
Speaker 13 (48:56):
And it's gonna be another reason why I love this
show at Terminus. You know, we're along with playing with
Scarecrow and even that show at Rolse. We're playing with
mary An Toilette and the Runs. Yeah I love them,
Zombie you know. But but yeah, we're going to be
playing with Scarecrow Hill and Fear of the Masses and
and Excuse Me and Devil inside Us. And my art
(49:19):
is going to be down the hall hanging on the wall.
Speaker 3 (49:22):
Fantastic.
Speaker 13 (49:22):
Yeah. So yeah, the seventeenth will be a uh just
a strict art show.
Speaker 14 (49:27):
And but you have the art hanging up all month long.
Speaker 13 (49:30):
Yeah, the art will be hanging up all month long.
Speaker 3 (49:32):
Outstanding.
Speaker 13 (49:33):
Yeah, thirty one pieces. But the best way to listen
to us we have a Spotify page, Apple Music, band Camp.
We're we're on all streaming platforms except Amazon. I noticed
that we're not on it, but yeah, every other streaming
platform we're on it.
Speaker 3 (49:51):
Yeah, we should tell people how to spelled gray because.
Speaker 13 (49:54):
Yes, we talked about this at the Goat before we
came in here. Yeah, it's g r E. Why it's
the old English spelling. A lot of people will spell
it with an A, and you know, the search comes
up with just a bunch of physical gray curtains. Yeah, yeah,
fard you guys anywhere.
Speaker 3 (50:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's one of the few words in
the English language you can spell it either way and
it's considered correct in American English.
Speaker 13 (50:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (50:16):
Well, very good, guys, Thank you so much. And we're
going to close out the segment with So we're gonna
call this P drunk outside of bars leaving voicemails. That's
not the act, not quite the actual title.
Speaker 13 (50:26):
I can't apologize enough for that.
Speaker 3 (50:27):
No, no, no, no, no, nothing to apologize for. But
people can figure out what the P word actually is.
But it's anything we should know about this before we
hear it.
Speaker 13 (50:35):
Or basically, you know, in real life, I lost the
love of my life because I was a very difficult
person suffering from addiction. And in the story and in
real life, this is about a particular incident where I
was outside of one of my favorite bars, leaving voicemails
(50:56):
in a particularly inebriated state.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
Okay, okay, So we're going to close out with this
and if you are listening live on Saturday, coming up
in the next hour, we've got Ryan Redwood, he's going
to be joining us via WhatsApp from the UK talking
about his new single. And then in the final segment
of the show, we have the Fods I think they're
I think they're from New York, but they're going to
be joining us online as well. So we do have
(51:20):
a lot left to go, but we're going to close
out this hour with this p drunk outside of bars
leaving voicemails from the Gray Curtain and Dennison Troy thank
you again so much.
Speaker 16 (51:31):
Absolutely moments of virtue.
Speaker 15 (52:02):
It's all gone now you say goodbye. The Foreman hurt
you the moment man, I love my mother.
Speaker 1 (52:22):
You'll like sider Man. I'm a summer man.
Speaker 11 (52:29):
We clash when you were together, and this support understand
he fails for every temper.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
World need call me down the bottle on me try.
Speaker 2 (53:02):
The thought of you.
Speaker 7 (53:04):
World of.
Speaker 12 (53:29):
The last Chance redemption shot which she's a bull and
one time.
Speaker 1 (53:36):
Not a brow will make a break. All these bull
mistakes beyond sound.
Speaker 9 (53:59):
We should want to get.
Speaker 1 (54:05):
This pan on. What's unders say the need? Call me do.
Speaker 12 (54:24):
F me travele, call me does the pool p petracked?
Speaker 1 (54:44):
The pot of you out of my.
Speaker 9 (55:41):
My lash.
Speaker 7 (55:44):
To gotten.
Speaker 1 (56:01):
Call me down.
Speaker 12 (56:05):
The bottle in Lommetria, Call me dono.
Speaker 1 (56:17):
The bottle and nome t call me the Boo.
Speaker 9 (56:32):
Me trix.
Speaker 1 (56:43):
The part of you own b B.
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