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October 4, 2025 • 58 mins
w/Ryan Redwood, The Fods

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Speaker 2 (02:31):
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Speaker 6 (03:56):
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Hover again.

Speaker 8 (04:14):
Such a great track. That is the back Room by
Ryan Redwood. And we're gonna be talking with Ryan in
just a moment. Welcome everybody, if you are listening live.
On Saturday, October four, twenty twenty five, we have entered
our number three new Marrow trace of Matt Connorton Unleashed
and we are live from the studios of wm n
H ninety five point three FM and Glorious Manchester, New
Hampshire and Ryan returns. We had Ryan on the show

(04:37):
recently to talk about his first single Tomorrow that we
premiered on the show, and then we played the back
Room recently for the first time on American radio. Another
great track, and I think Ryan is on the line
with us to be a WhatsApp?

Speaker 9 (04:49):
Hi Ryan, Hello, Matt, how you doing mate? You okay?

Speaker 8 (04:52):
Yeah, yeah, welcome back to the show. Thank you for
being patient. I know we're running a little bit behind,
but great to talk to you again. I love that song, so.

Speaker 9 (05:01):
Thank you very much, mate, and thank you again for
having me back.

Speaker 8 (05:03):
On absolutely absolutely now that song. What can you tell
us about that song? Because I, you know, it sounds
like it sounds like, you know, a dude watching a
girl you know that he's interested in and so forth.
But I feel like there's some other there's some other
things in there that you're kind of dealing with in
the lyrics. So what what can you tell us about
that track? Yeah?

Speaker 10 (05:24):
Man, So it basically it started off it was going
to be like a funny tune because me and my
producer and best mate Asa, who I do everything with,
write and record everything in the back room. So we
like originally were like, let's write a funny sort of
song about how we do everything in the back room
and we never leave it and stuff, and then we
we sort of had the tune down, and then when
I got to writing the lyrics, nothing funny came out.

(05:46):
A lot of like things that I was probably dealing
with internally sort of came out and just spilled onto
the page, which I guess is what songwriting is all about.

Speaker 8 (05:55):
Right, Yeah? Interesting? And what are some of those things
that were you know, they come out in the song
and the.

Speaker 10 (06:01):
Word it's all about like my ADHD and like how
I feel like the anxiety of that sort of watches
me as I'm sort of trying to make it with
like music or whatever I'm doing at the time, and
like how I can't really run away from it.

Speaker 9 (06:15):
If that makes sense?

Speaker 8 (06:16):
It does it does? I think we talked about that
the last time you were on the show with us too,
about you know, how a lot of creative people have
that ADHD and and and how it kind of informs
what you do creatively. And how there are ways that
you know, it can actually be beneficial, it can it
can help you to create. I think we we don't

(06:39):
have to rehash all that, because I think we talked
about a lot of that last time. But it's interesting
that that you kind of expressed that in the lyrics
of the song, and again it's it's kind of like,
you know, I listened to it and it's like, okay,
you know, and I went back and listen to it
again and I was like, there's something else going on here.
It's interesting.

Speaker 11 (06:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (06:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (06:56):
I like to sort of give them sort of like
it's like a double meaning, I guess, because it's cool
to have other people say, oh, this feels like this
to me, or I think it means this sort of thing,
and then to have that like conversation with like someone
like yourself as well and be able to be like, well,
I when I wrote it, I meant this, But obviously
you can interpret however, interpret it, sorry, however you want to.
Really like, I think that's the best bit about music

(07:19):
really is that lyrics can mean anything to anyone, right.

Speaker 8 (07:21):
Right, right, absolutely, Well, it's also kind of fun, right,
It's it's a it's an adventure when you when you
have an idea for a song and you and you
embark on creating that and then it ends up being
something different than what you had originally in mind. I mean,
that's that there's something kind of satisfying about that, right
when you because when you are able to surprise yourself

(07:44):
as a songwriter and you go, oh, I didn't I
didn't know this was going to happen, But this is cool.

Speaker 13 (07:49):
I like this.

Speaker 10 (07:49):
You know, well that's literally what happened, like when it happened,
and I had all these lyrics sort of written down,
so I sat Sometimes I start from like a line,
or I'd write like a paragraph how I'm feeling or whatever.
But and then I sat there and sort of reflected
once the song was finished, and was like, what are
these lyrics actually about?

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (08:06):
And I was like, oh, it's actually about my mental health.

Speaker 10 (08:09):
Actually, I didn't really know what it was about when
we recorded it and when I wrote the lyrics as such.
It wasn't until like a week later, when when I've
got the master's back and I was like, oh, yeah,
it's about that.

Speaker 11 (08:19):
Well.

Speaker 8 (08:20):
It's interesting that when you when you're in a situation
where you know maybe you see someone who you find
attractive and you're and you're contemplating. It's funny our our
guests that we had on in the first hour of
the show today, he had a he had a song
that was kind of about that, and you're and you're
you're contemplating on how you might be able to approach them.

(08:40):
But at it's at that moment that so often all
those things that go on in your head that might
be hindering you in some way. That's that's really one
of those moments where all that comes out right where
you start, uh, you know, maybe doubting yourself or you know,
should I do this, Should I approach this person or
should I just watch them? I suppose in this context

(09:01):
from the back room, right, Yeah, it's those moments where
you you start really questioning yourself, in doubt in yourself
and and and all those those things about yourself that
maybe are a little different.

Speaker 10 (09:13):
Well one percent, I'm quite I'm quite a confident person,
like in general, and it isn't to like say, until
them sort of situations arise, whether it be talking to
someone new or like a new job or something, or
going for like an interview or whatever, then you're sort
of like, oh, yeah, I do have some other things
going on.

Speaker 9 (09:28):
There is there is something going on in my head
that's not just look at me all the time, you know.

Speaker 8 (09:33):
Right now, what's the situation with as far as playing
this live? Have you been able to play this out
or you're doing I don't I don't remember what your
touring situation was the last time that we talked. But
are you playing a lot of shows?

Speaker 9 (09:46):
So I haven't actually played this one live yet.

Speaker 10 (09:48):
I've got a run of shows coming up in November
around the UK, so I'll be doing one in Liverpool, London,
Knowledge and hopefully Manchester. So should have quite a busy November,
and that'll be the first time this one's been taken
out on the road and give a given a live spin.

Speaker 8 (10:02):
Oh excellent. You must be excited about that because it's
got a vibe, it's got an energy about it, you know.
I imagine it'll go over really well with the live crowd.

Speaker 9 (10:10):
Yeah, I hope.

Speaker 10 (10:10):
So, Like it's kind of one of those when it
gets to the chorus where it just sort of opens
up and becomes this other beast like in the verse,
is quite intimate and quite like personal.

Speaker 9 (10:19):
I guess.

Speaker 10 (10:20):
And then when that chorus hits in and then drums
start going a bit mad and frashing on the crash symbol,
it starts to yeah, like say, open up, and I
hope people are getting on shoulders throwing their arms about
all that sort of stuff.

Speaker 8 (10:31):
I like how you put that too, how it opens
up in the chorus, because so much of so much
of writing a great song is you know, you build
tension in the verses and then the chorus is kind
of almost like a relief or you know, it opens up,
and and this song that really is very much present.
I think that concept in this song because like you
hear the bassline in the beginning, you know, that first verse,

(10:51):
and it's very you know, it kind of makes you
a little anxious, or at least it did me the
first time. It was like, you know, it just there's
there's an anxiety there almost in that base. It's really
in the baseline. I feel like that's kind of the
secret to it, you know, and then you get to
the chorus and it's like, okay, it's almost like a
relief a little bit. But I like that, you know,
you build the tension and then you get to the
chorus and it's like, Okay, here we are.

Speaker 10 (11:13):
Yeah, man, I love doing that as well. I'm so
glad you've picked up on that. And I think most
people who have listened to it have said the same thing.
They're sort of like, you're getting a bit moody in
these verses note, but then when we get to the chorus,
it's like, oh, Rhyme's all right. I mean he's okay,
like an uplifting sound in the tune, right. But I'm
glad we just doill sort of try to do that
on purpose really because I like, like you said, I
like the tension and then the release you get when

(11:36):
when the chorus kicks in for sure.

Speaker 8 (11:38):
Yeah. Now are you getting the airplay with the song
over there yet or what's that situation?

Speaker 9 (11:42):
It's been going down really well, mate, good.

Speaker 10 (11:45):
I think it's probably gone down the best of any
of my tunes ever have done, which is amazing.

Speaker 8 (11:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (11:50):
A ton of radio stations have been picking up over here,
like you guys as well, absolutely backing it, and I
love all that.

Speaker 9 (11:56):
Yeah, it's been going down really well.

Speaker 8 (11:58):
Oh that's outstanding. That's outstanding. And then now are these
are these songs gonna be part of a full album
or do you have a full album or what's what's
the situation there?

Speaker 9 (12:10):
So what we're doing.

Speaker 10 (12:11):
The plan is, we actually came up with this on Wednesday,
So we had a meeting on Wednesday, just me and
as Are, the guy who produces my tunes, and I
was like, what should we do because I'm bored of
just doing singles, like you say, I'd like to build
up to like an album or something like that. Yeah,
so that the next song will be another single, and
then after that I'm actually gonna be doing a five
track EP. Okay, yeah, so that'd be exciting bit more

(12:33):
I don't know. The next single is a little bit
more less moody, little little bit more less moody, okay, okay,
a little bit more uplifting. The lyrical content is still
quite not dark, but still quite angry, a little bit
of angst in there, okay, But the song itself is
a little bit more happy, I guess. And then the

(12:53):
EP is going to be a mixture of the two,
hopefully gonna sort of bring some more riffy stuff in
as well, which is going to be exciting because I've
not done that in a long time.

Speaker 9 (13:02):
But yeah, I can't wait to get going.

Speaker 8 (13:04):
So does that mean, so will the EP be five
new songs or will the EP include the songs that
you've released already.

Speaker 10 (13:10):
It'll be five completely brand new tunes next year, hopefully.
I reckon about March time if I was to put
a time on it. But yeah, five completely new tunes
which I've already written. I was actually finishing off the
lyrics to a couple before I got on and chatted
with you. Oh yeah, it's exciting, man, it's exciting.

Speaker 8 (13:25):
Excellent, excellent. So the producer that you work with has
he worked with you on everything that you've recorded.

Speaker 10 (13:31):
So he's worked with me on tomorrow and this one,
the next one, and he will be the producer going forward.
I used to work with another friend of mine called
Sam Wilson on my older tracks. I'm very fortunate to
have a lot of very very talented friends. Yeah, because
we're all from like the same background and the same
like music scene. So it's really cool to be able
to pull on people like that and be like, oh,

(13:52):
come on mate, let's go down the studio and sort
of I see what we can come up with.

Speaker 8 (13:55):
You know, Yeah, that's fantastic. And then so now, when
you play live, are you playing with a full band.

Speaker 10 (14:01):
So I'm hoping to be doing a full band soon,
but at the moment I'm sort of doing them like
acoustically on my own. I will say, if anyone's listening
to this and you want to book me, I'm not
on a boring acoustic artist guy who stands in the
corner and plays his song. Yeah, I'm very I'm very
larger than life. Come on, then let's pretend there's a
band here and let's go for it sort of thing. Nice,

(14:23):
So yeah, that will we do it a variety of
different ways really, Sometimes like the guy who's produced my
tune now Aaron or as he comes up on stage
me does some tunes like in a duo setting to
do it on my own, and then hopefully next year
I'll be getting a proper live band, sort now I reckon.

Speaker 8 (14:39):
Yeah, excellent, excellent. Yeah, it's a lot of work, tell
me about it, mate, it's a lot of work putting
all that together. Well, very good. So in a moment,
I think we're going to and I wish I wish
we had more time. Like I said, we're running a
little bit behind today, but I do want to play
Tomorrow again at the end of the segment to close out,
because I also love that song and I know, thank

(15:00):
you mate, and I know we talked about that song
the last time you were on. But for newer listeners
who might not have heard that conversation, So Tomorrow and
this is another song that I really related to in
a big way because well, tell us refresh our memories
about the message behind it.

Speaker 10 (15:17):
Yeah, So Tomorrow is a bit of a bit of
a deep one. It's about like climate change and how
we're a bit scared to talk about them sort of
issues still, and how I think we should still be
talking We should be talking about those issues that why
are we scared to talk about it? And sometimes when
you bring them sort of topics up, people shy away
from it or probably just like disregard you straight away
because they think you're wrong. When it's happened in front

(15:39):
of our eyes. Man, to me, we right, we'll start
talking about these things.

Speaker 8 (15:43):
Right, right exactly. Yeah, and you express that in the
song and uh, yeah, it's funny. We're having right now
here in New Hampshire where we are in the US.
We're about to have some eighty degree weather and it's
October and that's pretty unnus.

Speaker 10 (16:02):
We've got a storm going on at the moment, but
it's still I was like walking home earlier and it's raining,
it's windy, it's cold, and it's warm all at once.

Speaker 9 (16:10):
How was that happening?

Speaker 8 (16:12):
Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, we're in a drought. We've
got eighty degree weather in October. It's it's it's wild. Then,
you know, the political climate in the US. I mean,
I won't get into it, but I'll just say, you know,
it's it's not going to get any better as far
as addressing these issues, I'll just say that.

Speaker 9 (16:29):
I don't think it will overhear mate, So I think
we're all in the same boat.

Speaker 8 (16:33):
I think we are. I think we very much are
well Ryan, So we will. We will close out with
that track before we let you go, though, Where should
people know about where to find you online to keep
up with everything that you're doing and get access to
your music and all that.

Speaker 10 (16:47):
I'm basically available everywhere any social media. It's just at
Ryan Redwood fifty eight. And then Spotify is the save
just Ryan Redwood or Apple Music wherever you get your chunes.

Speaker 9 (16:55):
Yeah, just Ryan Redwood everywhere.

Speaker 8 (16:57):
Fantastic, fantastic Ryan. We will do this again when the
next single is out. Please you know, let us know,
let people know, and we'll well, we'd love to give
it another premiere, probably have you back on to talk
about it. And we love what you're doing. We're big fans,
so keep up the great work.

Speaker 10 (17:12):
Thank you so much for the support, Mat I really
do appreciate it. And yes, definitely next single, we'll be back.

Speaker 9 (17:16):
Let's do it.

Speaker 8 (17:17):
Awesome sounds good to me. All right, Ryan, we'll let
you go.

Speaker 9 (17:19):
Thank you, take care, cheers, mate, Thank you very much.

Speaker 8 (17:22):
You got it all right. That is the great Ryan
Redwood and we're going to close out this segment with
This is the first single that we spun of Ryan's
and I really love this song a lot. Pay attention
to the lyrics. It does matter.

Speaker 14 (17:34):
This is called Tomorrow Less Escape, the Weaver, mad run
away for the winter, prolonged, the suffer and and delay,
the e substantial crisis.

Speaker 15 (17:50):
Falling in surpara els let one story. We will remain
of us when there's nothing but.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Just get all say why when it race?

Speaker 2 (18:09):
So that's nothing lam for you.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
To feel when you fell so much.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
The follow on last why this race when.

Speaker 16 (18:25):
You know there's nothing lam far.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
You to feel, when it's all sins running away enough,
where do we finally say shelter.

Speaker 15 (18:47):
Comedy and answer save won't save us this time. The
oneida the chats is that we still that's.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Eagles.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
I'll say, Oh it's you.

Speaker 9 (19:04):
This is your best gay.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
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not fair, laugh far you to field wedding fail.

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So mister f why's last way best face we fa
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Speaker 4 (19:33):
Feel webb saw.

Speaker 17 (19:36):
Up sads west yes west, So when it's to be.

Speaker 18 (20:05):
It's good old fade a way when it is.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
It's good, say way when it is so, that's not.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
The last far serial let that sobs before lace last.

Speaker 9 (20:34):
This last week.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
That's not being that far serious. That's so.

Speaker 19 (20:48):
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Speaker 20 (21:59):
Heil that he is a miser because the staff are
all depressed.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
Bussy a song girl time but to tears.

Speaker 20 (22:12):
If you have to to your week times, don't expect your.

Speaker 6 (22:17):
Press see sees.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
You see more so than that don't shoot. They've seen
you here before. He sees ECUSU seez characters. We have
one have the.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Time to lee.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
There is much more to summer.

Speaker 20 (23:01):
It was not unst chose the sailing dots ships a Sa.

Speaker 9 (23:11):
So mad.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
She talk about her that ship chop come out, you
know Troy for.

Speaker 6 (23:28):
N dos palty today.

Speaker 20 (23:32):
Means fish isn't know those there are boys.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
But I can't get my desires. You don't know, you
don't you can't. She can't, Jill, You're free single jot.
Except by Sa.

Speaker 6 (23:56):
It was not unt.

Speaker 4 (23:58):
Talks the sail gots.

Speaker 21 (24:05):
So you talked about from tron pots not so.

Speaker 13 (24:53):
Oh.

Speaker 8 (24:53):
I love that. The track is called the Ineffectuals and
the band is the Fods. And h that is so good.
That is so good. And we've got Rob Critchley from
the Fods on the phone with us via WhatsApp. Rob,
are you there, I'm here, Can you hear me? I can, yes, yes, Hey,
I love this. I love that song, and I've been

(25:14):
I've been anxious to talk to you. You sent us
a couple songs. We're gonna play the other one at
the end of the segment. But I love the sound
of the Fods. But now it's interesting though, So the
Fods tell tell me if I'm if my perception is correct,
is it not so much a band but more of
a collective? Would collective be a better word, because it
seems to it kind of changes in morphs, and and

(25:34):
tell us about the Fods.

Speaker 22 (25:37):
It absolutely changes the morphs. So there's basically two of
us who write songs.

Speaker 11 (25:44):
Okay, I write the lyrics and I write the lyrics
and some of the music.

Speaker 22 (25:47):
And I'm not particularly good musicians, so I send voice
notes and you know, tinkerings over WhatsApp, and I send
it to my old school friend of thirty five years
and I send it over to him who's still in
Manchester in the UK, and he's he's been in the

(26:11):
music business with various bands for all that time, and
he does the majority of the music and putting it
all together.

Speaker 11 (26:20):
And we've got a.

Speaker 22 (26:23):
Mixed guy who is incredible and he's also dirt cheap
for us, at least because of hate and he does
the mixing. So there's three of us, and there's also
we sometimes use a guitarist out of old old band,
and we sometimes use a vocalist guitarist out of our

(26:44):
old band from when we were at school. So all
and I go all the way back to the I'm
trying not to age myself late nineteen eighties, and we
were we were in like, you know, a school band,
and we tried really hard and we didn't We wrote

(27:05):
a few decent songs and we won a Battle of
the Bands, and then we all disappeared off to university
and he carried on in a different morphed into a
different band and they did okay, and we sort of lost.

Speaker 11 (27:17):
Contact a little bit. Like I was always like sort
of following him.

Speaker 22 (27:20):
And when I was at university in London and his
band came down and played in London, so I went
and watched it, and so I knew them all and
they were good guys, and you know, as the two
thousands went along, I think he got a little bit,
you know, chewed up by the music industry.

Speaker 11 (27:40):
Like a lot of people have done.

Speaker 8 (27:42):
It happens, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 22 (27:44):
So he was writing really good songs and you know,
playing half decent venues and you know, not getting any
traction and not getting any you know, he'd been promised
deals by record companies and they've never come to fruition
and all that sort of stuff. You know, a tailor's
old as the time in the music industry. And during

(28:06):
COVID he he got hold of a couple of old
bandmates and during COVID they just set up phones and
started playing their old stuff and under the name of
the Good Stock Project, they eventually released like six songs
or something, and they were all done remotely, like in

(28:26):
four different rooms, and they found a they found a
singer who was really good and she did her part remotely.

Speaker 11 (28:33):
And this has gotten on to do the Fodds by
the way.

Speaker 8 (28:37):
Yeah, yeah, no, I want to learn.

Speaker 23 (28:39):
Yes.

Speaker 11 (28:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (28:41):
So during COVID they did six songs all remotely, put
it on an album six CP cord remote and released it.

Speaker 11 (28:50):
And one of the songs, that's which they didn't.

Speaker 22 (28:52):
Do because for whatever reason they didn't want it on
the CP and the new singer didn't like like it
or whatever it was.

Speaker 11 (29:01):
We're shopping, which you're presuming I think you're going to
play later.

Speaker 22 (29:05):
Yes, yes, so he said to me, He said to me,
can can you you sort of rework it and like
change some of the lyrics which may be a bit outdated,
and you know, we'll we'll re envision it and we'll,
you know, see where it goes.

Speaker 11 (29:21):
So I'm like, yeah, I've always loved shopping. I think
it's a great song.

Speaker 22 (29:24):
And while we were talking about this, we started talking
about the old music we released and like the gigs
that we played together and all that sort of stuff.

Speaker 11 (29:32):
So he goes, well, while we're doing this, why don't
we go back and find the seven songs which.

Speaker 22 (29:37):
We did together over a period of like two years
in the late nineties and see what we can do
with them as well.

Speaker 11 (29:43):
So that's what we did, and don't argue.

Speaker 22 (29:46):
EP was the first thing in which we put out
as the Odds and so there's the two of us
and we used on that EP four different singers and
so that's how we sort of developed in to this collective.
And so the four different singers like we sort of
found because for the first one we didn't have anyone.

(30:09):
So we just said the first person who said yes,
we were well, let's try it. Let's see and it
went quite well. So he did a couple and there's
a few other people who got involved. And as as
that album, all those songs off that album got a
bit more momentum.

Speaker 11 (30:24):
It started to.

Speaker 22 (30:25):
Get easier to entice singers to actually come and do
it for us. Right, So this is how we ended
up with Joe Boo. As you can hear from his
vocal performance in the Indefectuals, you can actually sing. You know,
he's a real, real talent, and he liked, he liked

(30:45):
what we did in Dante in Don't Argue EP and
we you know, we've chatted occasionally on other shows and
you know, in a couple of Discord channels, and I've
downloaded his songs and he's listened to ours. So I
blindly and to text to him, you know, a Facebook
messenger or whatever, and said, look, do you fancy having

(31:06):
to go? We've got a new song lined up.

Speaker 24 (31:09):
And he's like, yeah, yeah, give me, give me a
couple of weeks and then I'll be in some of
the other stuff over and when I've got time, I'll
have a look. So we send some other stuff over
and literally been two weeks it's sent back, you know,
vocals for it. Wow, this is he's so much better
than we are.

Speaker 22 (31:27):
Like me and all are like, okay, we've got to
like really sort of think about what we're going to
do here. Yeah, And we're going right, the lyrics needs
changing and like it needs bumping up, and like so
we scrabbled around for a couple of weeks and send
him back something and it's like, guys, this is brilliant,
Like this is coming together really well.

Speaker 11 (31:45):
And he sent it back and we're like, wow, his
vocals are even better on this first that's great. So
so so we did all this and.

Speaker 22 (31:53):
All these things which we are doing are all remote.
So Joe's in Florida, I'm in Jersey City and in
Manchester in the UK. You know, all these files and
things are flying back and forth and uh yeah. So
so eventually we got we got to a place where
music was getting close to what Joe was putting out.

Speaker 11 (32:13):
And you know, his his vocals are outstanding.

Speaker 22 (32:17):
He's done loads and loads but stuff like he's constantly
he I think that's what he does is collaborate. He's
got like a couple of bands that he's getting a
bit more serious with. Okay, but like he's a he's
a collaborator and he's been on loads of people's and
songs and yeah, people should check him out because he's outrageous.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (32:37):
Yeah, it's interesting because it's like, something that comes up
a lot on the show is you know COVID and
how COVID changed so much. And I feel like, obviously
it was terrible, but we got to find those silver
linings where we can. And I think one of the
one of those few silver linings of the pandemic was
it kind of forced people to think a little bit

(32:58):
outside the box in terms of, you know, the technology
already existed, you know, to share files back and forth,
and and and and to collaborate via the Internet. But
I think what the pandemic did it kind of forced
a lot of people to really embrace it more. And
so you see a lot more of these kinds of
projects now where you know, people aren't even in this case,

(33:18):
not even necessarily on the same continent, right, but you
can you can collaborate that way, and you can send
files back and forth, and people are more comfortable with
it now. And I mean, and and you know, the
FODS probably, I mean, without the Internet, I think it's
safe to say the FODS would not exist as a project,
right because you know, yeah, you wouldn't be able to
connect all of this.

Speaker 22 (33:39):
So so if yeah, if you look at it like
it used to be, like it used to have to
get four or five people into a tiny little room
and that's how people used to make music.

Speaker 11 (33:49):
And it's not wrong with that. I'd love to do
that again. Sure, you know, get get, get in a
studio or get. Because we we we don't really see
the end products.

Speaker 22 (33:59):
Like I send my bit off and I'm involved in
the producing and all that sort of stuff, and then
it goes to mix it and he does his stuff
and then it comes back to me and I go,
I don't really know what more to add to that.
It's outstanding, yeah, you know, And I could give him
little tip bits and say, oh, at one minute twenty three,

(34:24):
can you do this instead of this?

Speaker 11 (34:25):
And he goes yeah, and it takes like seconds and
and he's done. I'm like, okay, that's good. And so
the technology is so good these days. You know, he
has a real job. He's not a real.

Speaker 22 (34:38):
Well he is a real mixer because he's incredible at it,
but he also has a day job and you know,
this is his side hobby. Oh okay, yeah, and he's outstanding.
And some of the stuff that we've got coming out.
So these two songs, The Ineffectuals and Shopping like came
out in January, and we've been We've had I think

(35:01):
eight other songs in weird stages of like pre production
and sitting with about another band or a singer or
sitting somewhere, and there's there's one song that we've been
waiting on a singer to do it for like six
months and eventually we've just had to say to him, look,

(35:21):
it's been far too long when we need to find
someone else because and we found someone else and they
did it.

Speaker 11 (35:27):
In like two weeks.

Speaker 22 (35:30):
So this is this is one of the one of
the pitfalls about doing it this way, because someone will
with the best intentions, will go, yeah, it's a great song,
like I think it will really fit my my voice
on my tone, and and I'll get around to it,
you know, I've got a couple of things to do,
and then you know, in three weeks i'll be there.

Speaker 11 (35:48):
I'll be on it. So in a month later, I'll
text him back and go, how's it going. Oh, I've
not quite got around to it yet, you know.

Speaker 22 (35:55):
Give me, give me a couple of weeks and I'll
So this little back and forth goes on and it
gets quite awkward. Yeah, no doubt and no doubt, and
eventually I had to say to him, look, I know
you really want to do this, but like you've had
it for six months and pre want to try and
get an album out in.

Speaker 11 (36:11):
January or February or March or sometime. I don't know
whether you're going to get me any get me anything
to to put on it.

Speaker 8 (36:22):
Yeah, yeah, I get it.

Speaker 22 (36:23):
And then we gave it to someone else who turned
it around in three weeks. As much as you want
a particular person you think this song, I think will
and you find a person who you know.

Speaker 11 (36:37):
I've trolled through all.

Speaker 22 (36:39):
Sorts of radio stations and streaming platforms just to find
like someone who's got a sound which we think will
be great for this particular song. And we've also done
it right. Just have it and give it a go
and see what it comes up with. There was a
there was a song on I Don't Argue which was

(37:02):
never really meant to be like It turned out to
be a bit of a shoot gaze indie song and
it was never never meant to be like that.

Speaker 11 (37:10):
But the guy who we gave it to just gave
it that vibe.

Speaker 22 (37:14):
Yeah, and it came back and we were like well,
we weren't expecting this, but this is different book great,
you know. So one of the things that we really
want to do is have these singers put their mark
on our songs as well, because there's no point me's
sending a setting in something off and saying, right, I
mean this probably won't happen, but like we've got a

(37:34):
sound song that sounds like europe m made this like
Joey Tempest, right right, that's.

Speaker 11 (37:41):
Pointless, So we want them to put their own stamp.

Speaker 22 (37:46):
And we've got obviously, Aura is a female, so we've
we're looking to get female singers into it as well,
which opens up a whole new.

Speaker 11 (37:57):
Sort of sound for us.

Speaker 22 (38:00):
So you know, we're not stuck with just like guys
singing like if we like, we've got two on the
on the albums coming out that we've we're.

Speaker 11 (38:08):
Going to release them.

Speaker 22 (38:08):
We weren't going to even release this, but one of
the songs sound came out sounding so good that we're
right the middle.

Speaker 11 (38:16):
Of October we're going to release it and see what
people think. And it's nothing. It's not I don't think
it's even a rock song.

Speaker 22 (38:23):
Oh really, it's sort of a blues blues Ballady type thing.
Oh nice, you know, may fit on a James Bond theme,
so we'll see. But like we love it, so yeah,
see what people think.

Speaker 8 (38:35):
That must be exciting for you though, because as as
you're coming up with these ideas for these songs and
you're you're putting lyrics together and so forth, that you know,
it sounds like it's it's kind of an adventure because
you don't know once it leaves your hands, you don't
know exactly what's going to happen to it. And and
obviously you know you've got to approve whatever whatever happens
to it. But but with working with these different singers,

(38:57):
you don't know until it happened is what kind of
a stamp they're going to put on it. And that
just must be that must be very exciting. I would
think you know that.

Speaker 22 (39:07):
It's it's exciting and it's also quite frightening as well, because,
like you say, you just don't know, so it's a
huge step into the unknown.

Speaker 11 (39:16):
So we're like, right, there's a song that I wrote.

Speaker 22 (39:21):
And I was listening to a bit more dancy type
of stuff and I was I'd love to love us
to put out something because you know, we we don't
tend to stick to one genre. I'll just put out
something a little bit more dancing, like with a bit
of a boogie feel, you know, something like that. And
I wrote these lyrics. It's a song called Fuel and
hopefully we'll be.

Speaker 11 (39:41):
Out around Christmas or New York, okay.

Speaker 22 (39:44):
And I wrote it and it's called Fuel, and I
was thinking about, like, you know, maybe a bit hedonistic
and dancing at five o'clock in the morning and all
that sort of stuff. And the way it's turned out
is like, I don't even know what the term for it.
It's like sludge stone a metal So it's gone into

(40:09):
a totally different like genre and spectrum.

Speaker 11 (40:14):
I never thought it, but it's brilliant. It's brilliant. And
when we.

Speaker 22 (40:19):
Actually gave it to the band who did it, they
were like, what you're expecting from this? And I explained
this to them and they were like, right, just leave
it with me.

Speaker 11 (40:28):
I've got this.

Speaker 22 (40:29):
And he came back and he's a vocal and he's
also done a guitar solo for it. And if someone
had said to me, I wrote it, you know, eighteen
months ago, And if someone said to me eighteen months ago.

Speaker 11 (40:41):
You'll have this five and a half minute long you know,
goes on like that, and I'll be like, Okay, that's cool.

Speaker 22 (40:52):
But yeah, even writing the lyrics, you don't know where
it's it's going to go, and you've always got something
you know in your mind slightly yeah, you know who knows?

Speaker 8 (41:02):
Yeah, yeah, no, that's uh, that's really cool. And so
where should well? Actually a quick question, what does what
does the name mean?

Speaker 18 (41:11):
Where?

Speaker 8 (41:11):
Where does the name? You probably get this question what
is a far.

Speaker 12 (41:16):
Right?

Speaker 22 (41:16):
So if you listen to me, I've got a bit
of an accent, right, yes, from a place called Warrington
in Cheshire, which is just that side in Manchester in
the UK, and we all sort of grew up there
and Warrington is like one of these it's like an
old mill town and the Euston mill wire in the

(41:37):
in the in the factories in Warrington. Yeah, and everyone
My accent is not too bad because I would say
bad in a broad that's the right word.

Speaker 11 (41:46):
Sorry, yeah, because I went to University.

Speaker 22 (41:49):
Of London and then I've been over and I was
so was down there for ten years and then I've
been over in the States for another ten years.

Speaker 11 (41:57):
So whatever accent I had a sort of mellowd sure.

Speaker 22 (42:00):
Well, if you from if you're from Warrington, you say
things in a particular way, okay.

Speaker 11 (42:04):
And all our guitarist is a place called is from
a place called Orford in Warrenton.

Speaker 8 (42:10):
Okay.

Speaker 11 (42:11):
And if you say Orthored in a Warrington accident, say Orthored.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
Ah.

Speaker 11 (42:17):
Yeah, see I do. We've dropped the or off and
so basically, if you say it right, you would be
the authors.

Speaker 8 (42:27):
Gotcha.

Speaker 11 (42:28):
Now we're just the Fodds.

Speaker 8 (42:30):
Gotcha, gotcha.

Speaker 22 (42:32):
Yeah, it's it's a it's a shortened version of Orford
in a Warranton accent.

Speaker 8 (42:39):
That makes sense, That makes sense. Well, Rob, Unfortunately, the
time goes quickly, and I want to make sure we
get this last uh, this last single in shopping. But well,
we'll have to have you back Soon's definitely, when the
next single is ready, we'll have you back, and we'll
we'll book a longer block of time because I'd love
to talk to you more.

Speaker 22 (42:56):
But no, that yeah, that sounds great. The new single,
I'll drop it over to you as well. Oh wonderful
is very much enough, and it's out on I think
October seventeens. Oh okay, so I'll drop that over to
you and you can have a little preview for for
it and have a little listen and see what thing

(43:17):
I would love to love to get on with you
again whenever it's good for you to be honest.

Speaker 8 (43:23):
Yeah, yeah, great, No, that'll give us an excuse to
get you booked again quickly, because I do want to
have a longer conversation with you. But well, we're gonna go.
We're gonna spend this track shopping and this is with So,
this is with Ora Davis on vocals.

Speaker 11 (43:36):
Correct, Yes, okay, she's yeah.

Speaker 22 (43:39):
I found her when we first started looking for people,
and I never thought you'd give us a shot either. Yeah,
but people, people are generous with their time and generous
with their talents. And you know, we're grateful for all
the people that we've worked with, and we hope they've
had a good experience with it as well, because you know,
we've got something really good out of all this this experience,

(44:02):
and everyone that we speak to it seems to well,
you know, people are nice and may not tell us
the truth.

Speaker 8 (44:07):
Yeah, yeah, gotcha. All right, Rob, we will let you go.
We're gonna spin this track. But thank you so much
for joining us and yeah, well, we'll have you back
on soon for sure.

Speaker 11 (44:17):
Sounds good. I appreciate you, thanks very much.

Speaker 8 (44:19):
All right, you got it, Rob, Thank you by bye?

Speaker 11 (44:21):
All right, bye bye bye.

Speaker 8 (44:23):
All right. That is that's Rob from the Fods. Let's
give this a spin. I really love this too. I
love their sound. Both of these songs are really good.
But earlier we played the ineffectuals. We're gonna play this.
This is Shopping by the Fods. And then after this
Jenny and I will be back for a quick minute
before we run out of show. We'll tell you about
what we're doing later today if you want to join us.
But here it is the Fods. The track is called Shopping.

Speaker 25 (44:51):
See whes Cookyles one.

Speaker 4 (44:56):
Of the thig.

Speaker 12 (45:02):
As soon as buy your brand new too, you're just
the same all the risks I see you buy and
that brand new dress.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Something's going wrong.

Speaker 12 (45:16):
I know it's going to take this long.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
Somebody gave me out.

Speaker 25 (45:44):
All right by while crazy, you mustn't ray, I'm this
farming just won the follow Bary.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
Too well bear the brun when you talk about.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Says some sass, especially when me.

Speaker 4 (46:08):
Especially Win.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Ho sp we doing sis. She just wants some time.

Speaker 4 (47:14):
Do the sails got.

Speaker 18 (47:16):
Some time, so.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
What are we doing mad ourselves?

Speaker 8 (47:24):
Just pass it?

Speaker 1 (48:31):
What do we do? As?

Speaker 4 (48:37):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (48:37):
I love that they have such a great sound the Fods.
That track is called Shopping and we're gonna have We're
gonna have Rob back on us soon because he just
I want to have a longer conversation with him. So
interesting but great project the Fods. We are running out
a show. We got a few minutes left. Jenny, you
want to mention a couple of things.

Speaker 26 (48:58):
Absolutely well if you want to join Matt and I
later on today from four to six pm at the
Great North Ale Works, Jesse Coffee is performing and Matt
and I are delighted that we're gonna be able to
be there to see him play.

Speaker 8 (49:10):
Come join us.

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the viewing of the Exquisite Corpse show, which was at
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(49:33):
They get a lot going on, some artist talks and
things like that. So definitely go check them out on
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Speaker 8 (49:45):
Oh, calling hours, it took me a second to get
that calling hours. Yes, it's the Exquisite Corps. Yes, yes, And.

Speaker 26 (49:52):
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Speaker 8 (49:55):
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(50:16):
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But he's my uncle, so you know, almost it doesn't count.
But on that note, thank you for Thank you to
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(50:58):
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you were listening live, we had, let's see, first hour
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