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Speaker 1 (00:16):
It's all you're not enough anymore, said.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
I've been riding around, crawling through the doll, said me
you away, said you need some space. How lailing things
just popping the same.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
And we fall rolling heaven into the bad weather. Just guys,
eve the fighting escape.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
It's all talling night someday, light squeezes that.

Speaker 5 (01:00):
Went through the night. How side, how we side?

Speaker 1 (01:22):
You'll not show anymore boys, hopper, it seems we god.

Speaker 6 (01:30):
Walk out the doll, giv it up?

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Could I give some more? Maybe go again? Walking through
the school?

Speaker 3 (01:50):
How we fall from having It's about the weather. This guys,
he's a fighter guy. We talk of night fu some
day voices that going into.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
I'm beside, I'm beside. It's the riding off.

Speaker 5 (02:29):
It's the night my mother.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
And we far from heaven into by the weather, just
causing the funing escape. It's all the night.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Find some day light voices that goats.

Speaker 6 (03:08):
Meat tie.

Speaker 7 (03:32):
Oh, that's another great track from Jamie Higgs. And we're
gonna be talking with Jamie in just a moment. Welcome everybody.
We have entered our number two New Marrow dose of
Matt Connorton Unleashed, and we are live from the studios
of w m n H ninety five point three FM
and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. And of course you can
listen to the show from anywhere. Go to Matt connorton
dot com slash live for all your live streaming options,

(03:54):
social media links, contact in FO, show archives, et cetera,
et cetera. If you are listening live. Today is Saturday,
November twenty second, twenty twenty five. And uh, let's see.
I think we have Jamie on the line with us. Hi, Jamie,
are you there?

Speaker 8 (04:06):
He muss, how about you?

Speaker 7 (04:08):
Hey, doing well? Welcome back to the show. It's great
to have you back.

Speaker 8 (04:11):
Yeah, on you betty much. I'm glad to be back home.

Speaker 7 (04:14):
Absolutely so. I love that song We Talk. Of course,
the last time we had you on, you just come
out with Peace in Your Sound, which we are going
to play again at the end of our conversation today.
But I love I love this song We Talk. That
is so good. Uh, everything about it is great. I
love your voice, the production is great. Just a really
really great track. And this is this is pretty new, right,
this just came out.

Speaker 8 (04:36):
Yeah, I think it's a month or so old.

Speaker 7 (04:38):
Okay, okay, yeah, so so pretty new. What can you
tell us about this about this song?

Speaker 8 (04:44):
Like, what is it?

Speaker 7 (04:46):
You know, it's I feel like there's some deeper meaning
to the lyrics. But uh, and you know, when we
had you on before, we talked a lot about the
meaning of the lyrics a piece in your sound. But
I'm curious about we talk what this song means to you.

Speaker 8 (05:02):
It is a deep one.

Speaker 7 (05:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (05:06):
I've been with my wife now for ten years, married
just over the year, but we've been together ten years. Yeah,
and if you've been in a long term relationship, you'll
know there's ups and dance, sure, and this was a
song about one of the dance I was speaking to

(05:27):
me mate, he was having a similar love with his
girlfriend at the time.

Speaker 8 (05:31):
Yeah, and we're just.

Speaker 9 (05:33):
Saying, like we end up sitting up late talking and yeah,
I was just thinking about how problems and we just
we talked through them.

Speaker 7 (05:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (05:42):
Yeah, that was like kind of the idea of the song.

Speaker 9 (05:45):
But I kind of wanted the song to finish unresolved,
So you don't actually know whether they figured it out,
so whether they broke up.

Speaker 7 (05:55):
Interesting yeah, interesting idea. Yeah, so this is a deeply
personal one to you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So I remember,
I remember when we talked about Piece in your Sound.
I mean that you know that that song was personal too,
in the sense that from from what I recall from
our conversation, it was about how, you know, finding you know,
kind of finding peace in the chaos of life and

(06:16):
and uh. But but this one obviously, but I think
both songs are are highly relatable. This one is relatable
because anyone who's been in a long term relationship, you know,
you do go through your ups and downs and or
even a short term relationship and uh uh, so I
think this is very relatable as well. But when you
when you write a song like this and then and

(06:37):
then your wife here is it? Like what, I'm curious
what the what the reaction is, I mean, does she
like it or does she kind of say, oh, I
don't know, this is uh a little much?

Speaker 8 (06:49):
Or what? Like?

Speaker 7 (06:50):
How does she respond to it when you present a
song like this.

Speaker 8 (06:53):
To your Yeah, I fully get the nerves laugh today.

Speaker 9 (06:58):
I get it because I was sure how she'll be
actively but she actually preferred it, Yeah, which I was
surprised because I think Piecing sounds a better sort of
song genetically. Well, I suppose anyone who understands that song

(07:19):
kind of connects with it. So it's got because it's
got that deeper meaning where piecing sounds a bit more.
It's a bit more for everyone, right, we got more
of a specific audience, and obviously because Tash and my
wife knew where.

Speaker 8 (07:37):
To come from, I think she's just kind of related
with it.

Speaker 7 (07:40):
Sure, But so she really likes this one.

Speaker 8 (07:43):
Yeah. Yeah, it's a I'd say it's a better written.

Speaker 9 (07:48):
Song, okay in terms of songwriting perspective.

Speaker 7 (07:53):
Yeah, yeah. Does she give you feedback like, like does
she does she ever say, like, you know, I don't know,
I would change the her or maybe do this differently,
or does she just does she just kind of take
it in and give you her her overall impression of it.

Speaker 8 (08:08):
She kind of just stays away from it, does she really?

Speaker 7 (08:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (08:12):
Yeah, it's kind of.

Speaker 9 (08:14):
Like, well, that's like my outlet, Yeah, which is obviously
why a lot of new songs come out personal.

Speaker 8 (08:23):
Yeah, it's like my it's like my personal therapy.

Speaker 7 (08:26):
Oh interesting, Yeah, yeah, now that makes sense. I'm also
curious too, So the last time we talked, which that
wasn't that long ago, but I think, tell me if
I'm remembering this correctly, you were in the process of
putting a band, because you you've been operating as a
solo artist. But I think you were either in the
process of putting a band together. You had put a

(08:47):
band together. Am I on the right track with that?

Speaker 9 (08:50):
You are on the right track, mark, Yet I basically
put a quick band together for a gig in the June. Yeah,
and then and through likeate, July and August, it was
a bit chop and changey and then now we've settled
into a good band. Okay, yeah, quite consistent.

Speaker 7 (09:11):
No, okay, excellent. Well, like like when you when you
talk about you know, some of the the problems with
with putting the band together at first, like what what
did you run into was it was it difficult to
find people who just you know, were who could play
well enough to pull these songs off live or what
was you know, because I've been in bands, and I
know there are a lot of different challenges, you know,

(09:32):
when you're starting something kind of new, or you have
people you know, you've got your established project and you
have people you're bringing into it. Yeah, No, there's there's
a lot of things that can that can come up.

Speaker 8 (09:42):
Yeah, No idea is that. I think the biggest thing
for me is chemistry.

Speaker 7 (09:47):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 8 (09:49):
I think.

Speaker 9 (09:52):
If if you're a good guitarist, but you need a
great guitarist. Yeah, but the chemistry is right, they can
get better, true, So it's like the chemistry is kind
of more important than the ability. Luckily, we seem to
have struck gold and we have both chemistry and quality
in our band.

Speaker 8 (10:12):
So yeah, any lucky.

Speaker 7 (10:14):
Oh yeah, that's that's excellent.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (10:16):
So how long has the It can't have been too
long now, right, a few months that the current lineup
has existed.

Speaker 9 (10:24):
Yeah, So I think we done maybe the last four
or five gigs with the same band. Maybe maybe like
one or two couldn't make it or something. So yeah,
we've maybe like we've used Tom on basse for one
gig and then Hardison who plays keyboard, he's missed two

(10:47):
so gigs just.

Speaker 8 (10:48):
Because he's so busy. Sure, so part from that were
pretty solid.

Speaker 7 (10:53):
Yeah, good good. Now do you feel like, how do
you feel on stage with a band versus if you're
if you're kind of doing the so thing? Because you know,
to me, I mean just from my own experience, when
you're when you're with the band, It's kind of the
safety in numbers, right, Like you just you're all in
it together, and it just feels like there's there's not

(11:14):
as much that can you know, even if something goes wrong,
you know, you're you're all you're all in there together.
You're like a like a little army, a little battalion
on stage. I mean, that's that's kind of how I
always thought of it. But I'm curious how the how
the transition has been for you, especially where you know
these these players are coming in and playing your music
that that you've created. I mean, do do you feel
more confident with the band on stage or is it harder?

(11:35):
In some ways?

Speaker 9 (11:37):
I think it was harder first because I was just
so used to me and my guitar. You can you
can kind of go where you feel yep yeap with
the band, it's got to be a bit more structured
and follow the music. Yeah, But now I've kind of
settled into that. It's so much better.

Speaker 8 (11:56):
Oh good, I feel like Superman on stage.

Speaker 7 (11:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (12:00):
It's like I don't know to describe, but I still
love me acoustic gigs because.

Speaker 9 (12:06):
That's like intimate and personal and you can really like
connect with the songs again.

Speaker 8 (12:13):
But then when I go live, I just feel like
a show man with the big band.

Speaker 7 (12:17):
Oh that's cool, that's excellent. Yeah, but you're still doing
some Are you still doing some solo acoustic gigs?

Speaker 8 (12:25):
Yeah, more so with Eddie.

Speaker 9 (12:26):
So Eddie's like re main guitarists and me and him
kind of like do a few duet gigs where we
just got with acoustics. So there's a local artist called
Lewis Betty and he's actually moved out to Canada, okay,

(12:47):
and he's done some he's done some big gigs over
like Canada and North America and stuff, and we got
to support him in Liverpool recently and we've just done
being Eddie with the two guitars.

Speaker 8 (12:58):
I think it's like it's a good opening to a gig. Yeah,
and we loved it.

Speaker 7 (13:02):
It was yeah, yeah, excellent, excellent. I read something too
about did you have you been performing or did you
perform recently at a sports event?

Speaker 8 (13:14):
Yeah. So when Liverpool Football Club we won the league
in May, yeah.

Speaker 9 (13:22):
I want to say it's what May and the day
we were going to win the league, well we all
assumed we were going to win it.

Speaker 8 (13:29):
Yeah, the new loads of the.

Speaker 9 (13:31):
Fans were going to lie in the streets before the game,
so like increduce the players as they were coming in.
Oh interesting, So the club, Yeah, the clubs have been
good ideas put like a lot of music and as
the coach was coming in, the team coach. Ye, so
luckily they picked me. And there must have been ten, fifteen,

(13:53):
twenty people. Oh wow, so we're all setting off fliers
and yeah, all kinds.

Speaker 8 (14:00):
It was madness. See that was surreal.

Speaker 7 (14:04):
And then so you performed there with the band.

Speaker 8 (14:07):
No, that was just on the only me guitar.

Speaker 7 (14:09):
Oh my god, really in front of all those people?
What what was that like? Was that I would think
that would be a little bit scary. Well, I mean,
you know, in a good way, but I mean, was
it or how did you feel doing that?

Speaker 8 (14:22):
I wouldn't say scary.

Speaker 9 (14:24):
It was the sound system. I knew the sound system
aren't going to be big enough, so it was like
it was like anxiety. The anxiousness because of that. But
the actual singing of the songs all that, I've done
it every week, so that didn't really phase me. Sure,
But what kind of ended up happening is I'll start

(14:44):
singing one of the Liverpool songs and then the face
few hundred thousand people start singing it, and then I
could name myself and then the rest of the street
will take over.

Speaker 8 (14:57):
Oh wow, like a wave.

Speaker 7 (14:59):
Yeah that sounds challenging.

Speaker 8 (15:03):
Yeah, but it was full like I once a kind
of relaxed and thought, well, that's the way it is.

Speaker 10 (15:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (15:08):
I just stopped a few times just watching them. Yeah,
I'm getting.

Speaker 11 (15:13):
To do this.

Speaker 7 (15:14):
Oh wow, is there a video of that online on
YouTube or anything. I'm curious to see that.

Speaker 8 (15:20):
I think there's a small video and we TikTok, but
I've not seed a loft from And I said this
to our manager recently. I was like, I've got all
this lapool footage and I've never used it. Yeah, should
swing at someone else.

Speaker 7 (15:33):
Yeah, that's uh yeah, I'm very very curious just to
see that. Actually, that sounds like such a unique experience.
Another thing I love.

Speaker 8 (15:42):
Look, I'll send you someone here. What's up?

Speaker 7 (15:45):
Well, I'm sorry, what did you say.

Speaker 8 (15:47):
I'll have a look on my phone. I'll send you
someone what's up?

Speaker 6 (15:49):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (15:50):
Perfect? Yeah, awesome. I would love that. Yeah, I'd love
to see that. I'd love to see that. Another thing
I read too, that I wanted to ask you about
so going back to piece in your sound for a moment.
Is it's true it's up over one hundred thousand streams.

Speaker 8 (16:03):
No, it's all about fifteen thousand.

Speaker 7 (16:06):
Oh, fifteen thousand. Okay, No, that's still pretty good.

Speaker 8 (16:09):
It's still big for us.

Speaker 7 (16:10):
Yes, yeah, No, that's fantastic. Yeah, that's great. That song.
I would imagine that goes over well live right.

Speaker 9 (16:18):
Yeah, yeah, it's we play it on the Friday Saturday
night and local bars and stuff.

Speaker 8 (16:24):
Yeah, and it goes down well. So it's a very clatchy,
it's got upbeat feel.

Speaker 7 (16:31):
Oh yeah, yeah, it's cool. Yeah, no, I would imagine
that's a lot of fun live. Now, what's kind of
the so we talk obviously the newest single and then
do you have another one on the way or what's
what's kind of your future trajectory at this point?

Speaker 8 (16:45):
So yeah, so would in a little bit of a
good position at the minute with.

Speaker 9 (16:52):
We've got a couple of big promoters kind of negotiating
with us a bit.

Speaker 8 (16:57):
That's the right team.

Speaker 7 (16:58):
Oh good.

Speaker 9 (17:00):
So we've got one gig coming up on the fifth
of December, and that's with like a big promoter in
the UK called this Feeling, so that's kind of like
a trial and hopefully we do well on that gig
and then that opens a big door with them. We're

(17:21):
also talking to I Love Live, which a massive in Liverpool,
and we're looking at doing stuff with them next year.

Speaker 8 (17:29):
So we're just kind of putting an action plan together.

Speaker 9 (17:33):
So we're in the studio in January, we're sorting about
doing three songs in like a couple of days and
then that kind of sets us up for like most
of the year because then you can like released once
a February, one early summer, one late summer, and like

(17:55):
that kind.

Speaker 8 (17:55):
Of sets you up for the year.

Speaker 7 (17:57):
Yeah. Do you have plans to put these into an
EP or an album or or just doing singles for now?

Speaker 9 (18:05):
Again, we're sort of debating it, yeah, So there's a
bit of a toss up between do you just release
singles or do you release an EPH And you can
kind of do it both. So we've put two singles out,
we could put a third single out, yeah, and then
when you do the fourth you release that as an

(18:27):
EP with the four songs.

Speaker 7 (18:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (18:29):
Yeah, I'm trying to get the best of both, but
it's a let's ghost that at a minute.

Speaker 7 (18:34):
There's there's so many different ways to do it. I mean,
that's that's one of the interesting challenges. You know, when
I was growing up, I might have said this last
time we talked, but when I was growing up, it
was pretty pretty straightforward. You know, first single goes to
radio four to six weeks before the album, and then
the album comes out, and then if all goes well,
you know, you do the second single and go from there.
But now today, I mean, there's so many different ways

(18:55):
to do it. And yeah, it seems like a lot
of the guests that we've had recently their strategy is
do a series of singles that do eventually coalesce into
an EP or an album. But yeah, but there's no
there's no shortage of different strategies you can use.

Speaker 9 (19:09):
So I think I think that's what most people try
and do now, is keep releasing singles, hope and one
of them kind of blows up a bit. Yeah, yeah,
and then from nothing might get some sort of offer
to go and record a full album.

Speaker 8 (19:24):
Something along them lines.

Speaker 7 (19:25):
Right right, yeah, absolutely, yeah, so many ways to do it. Well, Uh, Jamie,
it's it's wonderful to talk to you this morning or
I don't know what time it is there, it's probably
is it afternoon.

Speaker 8 (19:35):
There, three o'clock in the afternoon, three o'clock in the afternoon.

Speaker 7 (19:38):
So wonderful, wonderful to talk to you this afternoon. It's
great to have you back, and you know we'll do
it again when when the next singles out. We'd love
to have you back. I love what you're doing, and uh,
in a moment, we'll finish the conversation with a piece
in your sound. For those who who did not hear
our previous conversation, though, can you because I part of
this is just selfishly I want to hear it again

(19:58):
because I love this song so my which, as you
know from the last time we talked at absolutely adore
the song. But what is this about again? For newer
listeners who might not.

Speaker 9 (20:06):
Know, well, fairstly, thank you very much because I massively
appreciate people let yourself support on the music for us,
because if people don't, we might as well just stay
in the plattice room, right, So we do appreciate it. Yeah,
the song itself is kind of explainatory to my life

(20:28):
because it's very loud and chaoto. But the more thoughts
about it. I was like, everyone's so busy, Like there's
so much going on in the world. I don't know
whether it's always been like this or whether it's modern times,
but it just seems crazy, so loud, and once I
kind of just accepted it. I thought, you know what,

(20:50):
I'm very lucky. I've got amazing wife, two beautiful kids.
I'm a full time singer. Like that's like the dream.
I'm like, once a kind of accepted, but I'm I've
got piece in the sound.

Speaker 8 (21:04):
M h.

Speaker 7 (21:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (21:05):
The song just kind of came from that. It's like,
fine piece in your sound and you'll love life.

Speaker 12 (21:10):
M h.

Speaker 7 (21:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (21:12):
Absolutely, obviously if you're here.

Speaker 9 (21:14):
In some of the lyrics, I kind of have voted
a bit to me wife because it's like sort of
makes it a bit love related.

Speaker 8 (21:22):
Yeah. Yeah, it's more just about like find your piece
in your sound.

Speaker 7 (21:26):
Yeah yeah, absolutely, No, I think that's uh. I think
that's pretty relatable. A lot of us have chaotic lives,
that's for sure. That's for sure. So we're gonna we're
gonna hit that track in a moment. We'll let you go.
But Jamie Higgs, again, thank you so much for joining us.
I look forward to the next single and and and
talking to you again and keep up the great work.
We're we're really big fans over here, so so we.

Speaker 9 (21:46):
Thank you very much, Matt, absolutely thank you to everyone
listening as well, really appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (21:51):
Absolutely. All right, we'll let you go. Jamie Higgs, thank
you so much and we'll we'll talk to you soon.
Take care, jeers, Mat, thank you all right, bye bye,
all right. That is the great Jamie Higgs. And without
further ado, we're gonna hit this track. I love this
so much. Uh, this is this piece in your sound. Bye,
Jamie Higgs.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
This seems like so sometimes it's loud, caddie, what's going on?

Speaker 1 (22:49):
So calm me skin man, well p say sound mean sound.

Speaker 5 (23:01):
So it's like a joke.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Never you men, don't beat no strange eyed singing my
end and sing me high up.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
High asking men when you sign.

Speaker 6 (23:18):
Shil wound B, sing your.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Sound where you row all it's like y'all song as
me how round that high stound me singing sound.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Where you round?

Speaker 10 (23:34):
It's like y'all song as me.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
I on the crowd at beside.

Speaker 13 (23:39):
A round and sing loud B saying.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Inside shoe shot.

Speaker 14 (23:58):
So do you get it.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
I'm in love it. You style, It's like a magic
out of the high boding rabbit feeling the sky's just
so majestic. Disbery sound e sound.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
Sound found PC you sounding round, It's like your song.

Speaker 6 (24:29):
As me growl that foul be sing your.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
Sounding loud, It's like your song as me eye of
the growl.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Every tide around the same love p s your side, shud.

Speaker 6 (24:52):
Shine foul piecing yourself when you round, it's like your
song gets me high off the grown and found piecing

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Speaker 7 (36:23):
Oh that is so good. I love that.

Speaker 8 (36:25):
I love that.

Speaker 7 (36:26):
The name of the track is my prettiest mistake. The
band is Ath and we've got Adam Hughes from Ath
with us. We're gonna speak with him in just a second.
Welcome everybody. We are, of course enjoying our number two.
We're about a little more than halfway through our number two.
Numaradosa Matt Connerton unleashed on this Saturday. If you are
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the studios of WMNH. And let's go go ahead and
get that mic up and get Adam on the line
with us. Adam, can you hear us?

Speaker 8 (36:53):
Hey?

Speaker 22 (36:54):
How's it going? Man?

Speaker 1 (36:55):
Good?

Speaker 7 (36:55):
Good, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 8 (36:56):
Now.

Speaker 7 (36:56):
Is anyone else from the band with you or is
it just you?

Speaker 15 (37:00):
Sadly?

Speaker 7 (37:03):
That's all right, No, We're happy to have you here.
I love that song so much. That is so good.
And I did listen to some other stuff too from
the band. Uh, great, great stuff, thanks man.

Speaker 8 (37:16):
Thanks.

Speaker 7 (37:16):
By the way, so I'm looking at I was gonna
ask you, uh, where the name at H comes from?
And I'm looking at your name and noticing your middle name,
by the way, you and I have the same middle name, Thomas,
And I'm wondering is that yeah? Yeah, so we have
something in common. I'm wondering, is that where the name
comes from? At You are at H in effect?

Speaker 5 (37:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (37:35):
Something, it's yeah along those lines. You started off as
a solo project.

Speaker 7 (37:40):
Ah, yes, that seems.

Speaker 11 (37:43):
When when the lads joined in, that's that's when we
decided we're gonna put it down to a H instead
not just me.

Speaker 7 (37:50):
Oh, I got you. That seems to be a trend lately,
it's funny.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (37:53):
I don't know if you heard. In the previous segment
I talked with Jamie Higgs and other great artists from
from the UK, and yeah, he was telling me about how,
you know, he started out as a solo artist and
now he's you know, he's put a band together. He's
still performing as Jamie Higgs, but but he's got a
band with him, and that that seems to be the trend.

Speaker 12 (38:10):
You know.

Speaker 7 (38:11):
Uh, the sole artists, songwriters, they get a little lonely,
I think works.

Speaker 11 (38:16):
Yeah, I think I think there's usually one person who
starts it off yep, and you bring people around you
to help you play live usually and then and I
turned into such a collaborative process that I thought we
should just be a band and we're better as a
collective rather than me just on my own.

Speaker 7 (38:39):
Well that's that tells you too, that you've really got
something there, right when you when you have something that
sort of happens organically like that, you know, you put this,
you put this group of people together to play your
songs and then it ends up being so good you're like, oh,
we should just make this a band. I mean that
that's pretty cool. So was that not your intention originally, Like, like,

(39:00):
had that not happened, had that not gone as well
as it was, do you think you'd still be a
solo artist.

Speaker 22 (39:07):
I don't Yeah, maybe, I don't know. I wouldn't have
given up on music.

Speaker 7 (39:11):
Yeah, of course, never give up on music. Yeah, you
never know.

Speaker 22 (39:14):
Where life takes you. Out of hope. That was in
a band. I always think.

Speaker 11 (39:21):
I always think the process of music is but as
a collective rather than a singular person.

Speaker 10 (39:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (39:28):
Yeah, yeah, so I'd always like to be with other people.

Speaker 11 (39:32):
Plus I'm not that good man.

Speaker 13 (39:37):
What was it?

Speaker 6 (39:38):
Uh?

Speaker 16 (39:39):
Was it easy?

Speaker 7 (39:39):
It sounds like for you because some people struggle with this.
It sounds like for you though, it wasn't that difficult
to kind of let go a little bit and open
yourself up to that. Because some people can't do it.
Some people say, you know, I've got these songs that
I've written, and these are my songs, and if you're
coming in, you're going to perform them my way. But
these are my songs, and and people are some people
are very protective sort of of their work that way.

(40:00):
But it sounds like for you it wasn't really difficult
to open up.

Speaker 11 (40:04):
No, absolutely, no, I mean that takes like great pride
and all the stuff that we're doing right now, especially
that it's all written by me.

Speaker 22 (40:14):
Yeah, but there's there's an album.

Speaker 11 (40:16):
With I don't care.

Speaker 22 (40:18):
I don't care, I couldn't come.

Speaker 11 (40:20):
I'd like I'd like people to hear my ideas and
the projects that I couldn't care if it's my face
on it or if I stood at the back of it.

Speaker 22 (40:30):
That's like making music.

Speaker 7 (40:31):
Man, that's excellent.

Speaker 21 (40:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (40:32):
Yeah, you don't have your own ego getting in the way,
which is good because.

Speaker 11 (40:36):
Some if I definitely do, probably do let where you
go take over a little bit sometimes.

Speaker 22 (40:44):
Really Yeah, I mean I think.

Speaker 11 (40:47):
Everybody in music you've got to have a bit of
any ego. You've got to have a bit of pride
about it that you're doing.

Speaker 7 (40:53):
Yeah, so throwing but but but it's not. At the
same time, it's not getting in the way.

Speaker 22 (41:00):
Yeah, it's not. It's not getting in the way. I'm
just I let it. I let it do his thing,
I guess.

Speaker 7 (41:06):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely So how long how long has
ath officially been a band? It has it been less
than a year? It seems like it's kind of new, right, Oh.

Speaker 22 (41:15):
Yeah, I guess it would be the first eighty H gig.
It's been about eight prol.

Speaker 7 (41:23):
Maybe oh wow, oh no, oh no sorry June okay,
oh yeah so really really not that.

Speaker 22 (41:32):
Long headline gig.

Speaker 7 (41:34):
Wow.

Speaker 11 (41:34):
When we decided we're going to cement it as at
H the band rather than Adam Thomas Hughes and the.

Speaker 7 (41:40):
Band, Yeah, so you're off. You're off to a very
strong start, that's for sure.

Speaker 22 (41:44):
Thank you, Thank you man.

Speaker 7 (41:45):
Absolutely. Now, as as these members have come into the band,
are they also contributing to the songwriting as you go forward?
Or is that is that still more just you? Or
how does that work?

Speaker 22 (41:56):
There's there's no rules.

Speaker 11 (41:57):
There's there's no rules, man, there's We've got to the
backing guitarist, Paddy He He's wrote a song that I
think will end up being one of an an eighty
hate song. And I've got no bums or anything, you
know what I mean. I'm not going to let that
bother me because I want to be a song right.

Speaker 9 (42:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (42:20):
If it's a good song man, we're going to do it.
But so far it has just been me who wrote
the lyrics and melodies usually Yeah, but I don't care
going forward.

Speaker 8 (42:33):
I noticed.

Speaker 22 (42:33):
I guess I'll just bring some ideas.

Speaker 7 (42:35):
Yeah. No, that's great. I noticed too. Now tell me
if I'm if I'm right about this? Uh looking at
looking at the backgrounds of the members of the band,
are you guys all like majors in music at university?

Speaker 12 (42:50):
No?

Speaker 11 (42:54):
Kind of kind of okay, kind of we've got I
think most of the lads are studying or did study
at university something to do with music.

Speaker 7 (43:04):
Okay, Yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah, so that's interesting.
So you're all, I mean, you all know what you're doing.
You know, you're not you know, I mean you're not
You're not just dabbling in this like you you know,
you're at a young age. You're you're all pros. Like
you've got some some actual education in music, which is great.

Speaker 21 (43:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (43:24):
I definitely don't flaunt that about that. I know what
I'm doing.

Speaker 11 (43:28):
I'm a very basic intermediate player myself. But we've definitely
got two or three of the lads in the band
classically they know what they're on about.

Speaker 7 (43:40):
Yeah, so that really helps me. No, that's excellent.

Speaker 14 (43:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (43:44):
And then so in terms of since you've played your
first show as a band, you said that was in June.

Speaker 22 (43:50):
Right, yes, as a under the Ah collective. Okay, we
did play a few shows before.

Speaker 8 (43:57):
That, oh.

Speaker 7 (44:00):
Gotcha? So now since then? I mean my impression is
you've you've got a lot of momentum in a short time.
Are you Are you playing out a lot? Are you
doing a lot of shows?

Speaker 8 (44:10):
We have been.

Speaker 11 (44:11):
Yeah, we've been been shows every week every week, which
our size and at the start of a musical project.
I guess that is a little bit unheard of that
you could be playing every week. But yeah, no, we're trying.
We think love music's our favorite the music. Oh yeah,
playing in front of people?

Speaker 1 (44:34):
Did you perform it?

Speaker 7 (44:35):
Tell me if I'm saying this correctly. Wigan or Wagon
Warriors Rugby, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 11 (44:41):
Yeah, we played at that stadium once for that was
no longer will it is to open up a big
match for them, which was a really big moment for us,
one of the best Cakes have ever played.

Speaker 7 (44:54):
No kidding. How many people were at that? That must
have been a big crowd, right for something like that.

Speaker 11 (44:58):
Yeah, I think the it was twenty to twenty two thousand,
oh my god, yeah, tickets sold. I think when we
were playing it was more like fifteen or sixteen. Yeah,
but definitely it was still and you know what's crazy, man,
it's I was far less nervous for that.

Speaker 22 (45:20):
Than plenty of the other gigs that we've done in
front of fifty people.

Speaker 7 (45:25):
Yeah, well, I think I kind of understand. I mean, obviously,
you know, that's a you know, playing in front of
thousands and thousands of people at an event like that's
a big deal. But I can kind of I can
kind of guess. I mean, I'm curious to hear what
you say, but I can kind of guess that maybe
because when you're in a when you're in a in
front of fifty people, that's just such a much more
intimate thing.

Speaker 11 (45:44):
And yeah, I think every artist, so no matter how
big or small you whoever you talk to, will say
the same thing. When you play to fifty or one
hundred people, it's so much more intimate, and you focus
in on all the stuff that you'd do.

Speaker 22 (46:01):
In even more than when you plan in front of
thousands of people.

Speaker 7 (46:05):
Yeah, and you know, and obviously you know there's people
like if you're on stage, you look out into that
into a small crowd and you can see people you
actually know, and.

Speaker 11 (46:19):
You see the eyes looking at you and you see
the eyes. Yeah, in thousands, it could just be a
bit of a like a blur. It's just like a
wall of stuff is in front of you.

Speaker 7 (46:29):
Yeah. I remember a long time ago reading an interview
with Don Henley of the Eagles. He was talking about
how when the Eagles first got really big, he would
get terrible stage fright. So when because he was afraid
of being in front of these big crowds, so he
would intentionally, you know, he never really wore glasses, but
he wouldn't put his contact lenses in because he was nearsighted.

(46:50):
But he wouldn't put his contacts in before they went
on stage because he didn't want to be able to
see the crowd of people. So he'd be behind the drums,
and to him it was like, yeah, he could of them,
but he couldn't actually see them.

Speaker 22 (47:03):
Awesome.

Speaker 11 (47:04):
That's that's awesome, to be honest, I did something similar
when I did most of My eyes are closed for
most of the most of the show.

Speaker 7 (47:13):
Oh there you go, Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 11 (47:15):
It just happens. I think it's like a subconscious thing
that I do. Yeah, it just closes because I start
thinking about the music. I guess, and thinking about my
playing and singing rather than thinking about who's staring at me.

Speaker 7 (47:29):
Yeah, yeah, no, that makes sense. Also, see something here
about the Deaf Institute in Manchester. Obviously that's Manchester, UK
where in so no one's so none of our listeners
are confused. We're in Manchester, yes of course. But and
did you sell that out the Deaf Institute in Manchester?

Speaker 11 (47:46):
Yeah, yeah, the first iconic venue said that that was
the first gig with first headline gig we did as
a band and it was the best moment of my
life so far.

Speaker 9 (47:56):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (47:58):
Oh that's incredible. That's incredible. So what is kind of
the forward trajectory for you guys, because this is a
subject that comes up all the time on the show,
is talking about strategy in terms of releasing music and
the cadence with which you release music. And I know
you've got some singles, but did I read this correctly

(48:19):
too that you've you've got a lot of things you've
recorded that you haven't released yet. Is that true? Yeah?

Speaker 11 (48:24):
Yeah, we've got about we're sitting on We're sitting on
a lot of music right now, to be honest to
if you that we're ready to next year, there's going.

Speaker 22 (48:32):
To be a bit of a refresh with a t
H where we.

Speaker 11 (48:38):
We go for a very not different sound, but we're
a sound we're very happy and proud of. Yeah, and
we're just waiting for the right moment to kick that off. Okay,
think that's going to be January first. Oh, so we're
excited for next year's.

Speaker 7 (48:55):
Do you know in terms of releasing that music as
you do that in starting in January, the refresh as
you put it, Uh, do you know is there going
to be an album do you think? Or or is
there going to be another series of singles.

Speaker 11 (49:06):
Or there'll be a series of singles first, and we're
gonna we're gonna lead up to a big EP.

Speaker 22 (49:13):
That hopefully will be next year. Okay is the plant
and I'm very very proud of it. I can't say
much about the EP though right now.

Speaker 7 (49:23):
Okay, okay, understood, understood, Well, you gave us some clues.
That's good, that's good.

Speaker 16 (49:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (49:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (49:30):
And then so the single, oh, let me well, actually
let me ask you this. I'm going to kind of
backtrack a little bit, you know, because because we did
play the single, which I love, my prettiest mistake you've
got other music online that I'm curious if this is
actually from There's another track that I found of yours
that I love called left Behind? But is that is

(49:51):
that sort of pre band.

Speaker 9 (49:54):
Officially?

Speaker 8 (49:55):
Kind of? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (49:56):
Okay, Well, to be honest, all of.

Speaker 11 (50:00):
It was the last two Pretty Is Mistake and left
Behind were made with the band, okay, but they were
made when.

Speaker 22 (50:07):
It was a solo act.

Speaker 7 (50:09):
Oh okay.

Speaker 11 (50:10):
Whereas the stuff that's all been made for next year
is all the band stuff.

Speaker 7 (50:16):
I gotcha.

Speaker 11 (50:17):
So yeah, but no, a very left behind kids kind
of similar to what we're doing next year.

Speaker 7 (50:23):
Definitely, I'm sorry, Yeah, and and thank you. I the
correct title title is left Behind Kid. I think that
through the kid. The kid is in parentheses and the title,
so in my mind, I just ignored the kid part.
But left Behind that's a great song too. I think
I'm probably going to play that at the end of
our our segment. And also also I might sneak and

(50:44):
uh you did? I found this on YouTube? You guys
did a cover of Arizona by the by Wonder Horse
and this is that The Barn Live Session. Now that's
not a show that I'm familiar with, but is that a.
Is that a YouTube show where they have musicians come
in or what is the barn?

Speaker 1 (51:02):
The Barn is.

Speaker 22 (51:04):
Completely us. It's our rehearsal space.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Is the Bard?

Speaker 7 (51:09):
Oh okay?

Speaker 11 (51:10):
Yeah, yes, So when we do some recordings in there,
we like to call them the Barn sessions. If you're
just this shed that we've turned into a studio, we've
just named it the Barn and then you're going to
see a lot more of the Barn next year.

Speaker 8 (51:23):
Definitely.

Speaker 22 (51:25):
We love the live stuff.

Speaker 7 (51:26):
That's fantastic. Yeah, because I also love this. I love
the I might sneak this in too. I might play
both of those at the end of our conversation if
I have time, because I also love this. I'm not
familiar with the band Wonder Horse.

Speaker 22 (51:40):
Oh man, you need to do it.

Speaker 8 (51:42):
Do it?

Speaker 11 (51:43):
Yeah, fucking when you get home tonight, put your headphones
on and listen to their out of them.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Where are they?

Speaker 7 (51:49):
Where are they from? Are they? Are they from over there?

Speaker 8 (51:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (51:52):
They are UK acts, okay, from London and Cornwall. And
I think you'll be into them if you like you
a bit more grunge, punky rock.

Speaker 7 (52:04):
I guess yeah.

Speaker 11 (52:05):
It's been adopted into the indie scene really right now.
But at the heart of it, it's punk and grunge okay,
and they.

Speaker 22 (52:13):
Are possibly our biggest inspirations.

Speaker 7 (52:17):
Okay, yeah, I'll check them out because you guys did
this cover of Arizona. It's really good, really good, really good. Well, Adam,
that time does go quickly, but we will definitely have
you back on in the future. I'd love to as
ATH is releasing new music, we'd love to have you
back on. Love what you're doing to love to really great.

(52:40):
Before we let you go, Like I said, we're gonna
hit this track, left Behind, another great song. But before
we go, where's the best place for people to go
online to keep up with everything that you guys are doing.

Speaker 11 (52:51):
I'd say everybody go and check out the Instagram. We're
very on it with the Instagram. We're posting announcements for
shows and music that's coming out.

Speaker 22 (53:01):
Okay, So it's official.

Speaker 11 (53:02):
At H on all social media platforms, and definitely check
out the Instagram.

Speaker 8 (53:08):
Guys.

Speaker 7 (53:09):
Absolutely all right, we'll let you go for now. We're
gonna hit this track. But Adam Hughes of at H,
thank you so much, my friend, And like I said,
we will definitely definitely talk again in the future, but
absolutely as well. Oh that would be excellent.

Speaker 22 (53:23):
We'll jump over that side.

Speaker 7 (53:25):
Of the fantastic can't wait, can't wait? All right, Adam,
we'll talk to you soon. Take care, see him on
bye bye, all right. That is Adam Hughes from the
band at h and as promised, let's give this suspend.
This is another great song from them. This is called
left behind Kid.

Speaker 23 (53:59):
Waiting yet be my faulty getting old of the way
of all the world.

Speaker 8 (54:05):
It's on his.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
Mind whilst he's leaving.

Speaker 23 (54:11):
This sound avoiding reel loud, sivil child, that's the way
he facts any use or foolish. It's a far for
all the excusees. You gotta borrow the boys outside.

Speaker 5 (54:32):
Another night you need back sparks rides down to for
you found high? Can way your finger at onto this
proja straight y stand you'll find him the big high

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you can by.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
The side of this reel loud? Can I catch your
break further sound on the blood side of a smile?

Speaker 13 (55:06):
He's in a file and who jos us come in
and found?

Speaker 1 (55:12):
That's the way Betsy.

Speaker 23 (55:17):
An exuseys foolish, It's a fut for all the excuses
you gotta borrow the boys some side.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Another not far casting your.

Speaker 5 (55:32):
Eyes down to the flo you find him that can
sway of fav I got onto this podcast see standle
finding him.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Man Another night Baseball Custo.

Speaker 5 (56:17):
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and fake me Uto this part and see I stare
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Speaker 1 (56:34):
High kid?

Speaker 14 (56:55):
This a space the song always Hansing desert dosed don.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
This Sup wins.

Speaker 14 (57:07):
Candle at the sip and no flame and this says
fally nothing just disappearing.

Speaker 16 (57:23):
Where did you go to my love? Where did you
go to my love? Where did you go to my love?

Speaker 1 (57:38):
Where di friends in that ever ta flowers?

Speaker 23 (57:46):
This supqueen the falls from Boston and it sings sad.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Is what's your farm?

Speaker 5 (57:56):
She's beauty?

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Daddy sighs A.

Speaker 16 (58:05):
Where did you go see?

Speaker 24 (58:09):
Where did you don't see? Where did you don't? Sam

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Man s.

Speaker 5 (58:41):
Ordern't say from this side?

Speaker 1 (58:45):
Had short.

Speaker 16 (58:48):
Show where they turned out of the eyes?

Speaker 1 (58:53):
What's shot a name?

Speaker 5 (58:56):
Go sus stroke?

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Where did you come soon?

Speaker 16 (59:08):
Where did you go to my love?

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Where did you go to my love?

Speaker 1 (59:21):
Where did you go to my Where diy come Sup?

Speaker 5 (59:27):
Myleve? Where diy come su? Mile.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
Where did you go?

Speaker 11 (59:40):
Sup?

Speaker 5 (59:40):
My love?

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Everything sold in my love.

Speaker 5 (59:47):
Have hont you my love?
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