November 22, 2025 • 58 mins
w/Charlie Nieland
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Whose emergency is this? And why is it yours? You
found someone to play, but you can't find the door.
Who is this problem?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Child?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
And why do you resist.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
The threatening?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Who you are inside? The illusion will persist. Songs as
a libration become battle cries if they read this, faithful,
when you're holding onsw ti.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
I just want you to win. Go ahead and take
my lens to a book and my face. This is
how it big.
Speaker 6 (01:33):
Some the sample lets you don't cool?
Speaker 4 (01:37):
You play? How this stuff up? Books?
Speaker 5 (01:42):
You been?
Speaker 4 (01:43):
It's your canferen? Who's emergency is this?
Speaker 7 (01:51):
Ask?
Speaker 4 (01:51):
What's on your face?
Speaker 8 (01:55):
Think?
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Can't petrate in? Listen that place?
Speaker 5 (02:02):
So to l roway shut sound like that's all cries.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Everything is good for when you're home.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
And all soti. I just watch it.
Speaker 9 (02:24):
Go ahead and take some place.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
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Speaker 10 (03:17):
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Speaker 11 (03:32):
Those words you've made weapons.
Speaker 7 (03:36):
Someone else smon. Someone else says sarmon. Someone else says sarma.
Someone else says sarmon.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Someone else says Sarama.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Who's the emergency?
Speaker 5 (03:55):
What's the urgency what's.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Tuburbas, see what's tubermascy?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Who's emergency?
Speaker 12 (03:59):
What's the urgent?
Speaker 8 (04:00):
See?
Speaker 9 (04:00):
I want to learn to see what to learn to see?
Speaker 6 (04:02):
What's the better?
Speaker 12 (04:02):
Queen of about cries as they know when you're rips
so tied, you'll then shame when you're been in my
eyes still can't be between your lines and the barbe
celebrate your own every.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Cook and away he find his own take that length
which they get.
Speaker 9 (04:15):
A boat may get up, a woman may get his.
Speaker 12 (04:17):
Own bro whatever you know, a prop tied nada.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
No feel that inside you want your not feel that
inside you want you know?
Speaker 8 (04:24):
You just want shoot twin When.
Speaker 12 (04:26):
I just want you spin?
Speaker 7 (04:28):
When I just want you swin, When I just want
you to win, When I just want shoot to win,
When I just want you to win, twin, I just
want you to win.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
When I just want you to win?
Speaker 7 (04:39):
When where.
Speaker 9 (05:14):
Such a great track? That is when Charlie Nyland or Niland?
I think it's Niland, but we're going to ask him
in just a moment because he is joining us online.
Welcome everybody, if you are listening live. Today is Saturday,
November twenty two, twenty twenty five. This is Matt Connorton
Unleashed and we have entered our number three New Marrow
trace of our program this morning from the studios of
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WMNH ninety five point three FM in Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire.
And of course you can stream the show from anywhere.
Go to Matt connorton dot com slash live for all
of your live streaming options, social media links, contact infosho, archives,
et cetera, et cetera. But let's get Charlie in here
because I am dying to talk with him. Charlie, are
you there, Hi, Matt, Hey, Welcome to the show. First question,
(05:57):
how do you say your last name?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Nilandland?
Speaker 9 (06:00):
Okay?
Speaker 12 (06:01):
Good? I got it right.
Speaker 9 (06:01):
I thought so, but I wasn't one hundred percent sure.
I love that song when and we'll talk about that,
and we'll talk about a lot of things. But what
a great track. Who is that on the song with
you at the end? Who's rapping?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
His name is Spirit Child. He's based out of Staten Island.
I've known him here in the New York City area
for about ten years. For we both are in this
thing called the Bushwick book Club. It's a performance series. Oh,
I'll tell you more about it when we get to
the song.
Speaker 9 (06:29):
But he's great, sure, sure, yeah, no, he's really good.
It's kind of it's one of those things where when
you listen to the song for the first time, you
don't expect that, but it just it's a surprise, but
it's so seamless, like it just fits so perfectly.
Speaker 8 (06:45):
You know.
Speaker 9 (06:46):
It's it's a nice surprise because sometimes somebody might try
to do something like that and you go, I don't know,
it seems a little forced or whatever, but that is
it just fits in perfectly. So good, so good. Absolutely,
And you've got an album, let's see this. I guess
this has been out for a little while now, Stories
from the Borderlines or this just came out last month, actually, right.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Yeah, it's just been a few weeks.
Speaker 9 (07:09):
Oh yeah, so this is very new. You've got a
new single called Shame. I thought about playing that one,
but we'll probably play that one a little later in
the show because I wanted to play when I wanted
to open with that. It's such a great positive song.
But you've done You've done a lot of work. You're
you've been around a while, you know, you've worked with
people like Debbie Harry, Blondie, Rufus, Wainwright, Scissor Sisters. You're
(07:32):
a composer. You know, you've done film and television. I
really want to know. Tell us a little bit about
your background, and then we'll kind of talk about what
we're we'll come back to what you're doing now with
your music, but I also would like to know more
about you.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Well, I'm from the Midwest, but I came to the
East Coast and graduated from college and moved to New
York City, and then I was in a band called
her Vanished Grace for about twenty five years, and a
couple other bands throughout the nineties and into the two thousands.
But in the beginning of the two thousands, I kind
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of stumbled into a situation where I was working on
a film score for this movie called The Safety of Objects,
and then I started producing. I became part of a
production team, and that's where I worked with Debbie Harry
on her solo album called Necessary Evil, which came out
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in two thousand and seven, and that was a really
exciting experience, and basically we just continued writing with her
after the album came out and ended up having some
of those songs be on the Next Blondie record in
twenty eleven.
Speaker 9 (08:47):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
And since since about twenty thirteen, I've been working on
being a solo artist in addition to producing people. And
that's where I met Yeah. This is my fourth album.
Speaker 9 (09:02):
Oh no kidding, Okay, what do you find most satisfying?
I mean, is working on your own music as a
soul artist?
Speaker 13 (09:08):
Is that?
Speaker 9 (09:09):
I don't know if more satisfying is probably probably not
necessarily how you'd want to put it, but you understand
what I'm asking you. I mean, do you get what
do you get the most from in terms of what
you're doing because you've worked in all these different areas well.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
It's an interesting challenge because I've been in bands a
lot of times where I was I did get to
sing my songs, but it was in like a group
where there was more than one singer, so I was
always like the other singer when there's a female vocalist,
you know. And so I've been writing songs for a
long time and co writing with people, and in the
(09:46):
past ten years I've got involved, as I mentioned, with
this performance series called the Bushwick Book Club, where each
month the book is selected and songwriters react to the
book and write a song and then there's a sh
where all the songs are presented, and I sort of
got involved in producing that, so I ended up writing
(10:08):
a lot of songs that way. Yeah, And I don't know,
I've just been expanding my circle and getting involved with
things like that and another series called The Loser's Lounge,
which is here in New York, where we sing at
Joe's Pub with a fantastic backing band. It's it's covers,
but it's like there's a theme each for each performance.
(10:32):
But I found that these things have helped me kind
of find my identity as an artist, as a performing artist,
and I'm really excited about it now. I enjoy playing
full sets of my own music and I feel like,
you know, I'm a vehicle for this thing that's coming
through me, and so you know, I do love collaborating those. Yeah,
(10:57):
And I get to do that a lot in production.
When I produce my own music, it does it gets
to be It's interesting because I can really take my
time in certain parts of the process and just try
a lot of different ideas and slowly build up layers.
I think on stories from the borderlines. There's a lot
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of that it's kind of like a musical diary.
Speaker 9 (11:21):
Okay, okay, In terms of how you approach how you
approach songwriting, I'm curious if do you consciously try to
do something that's that's unique and out of the mainstream
or does that sort of happen organically because these songs,
you know, none of them are anything that you would
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necessarily hear, Like, I don't know what radio format they
would fit into necessarily on commercial radio. You know, they're
they're they're different, which is what makes them so interesting.
They're very catchy, they're very catchy and listenable. They're accessible,
but they're but they're also unique. It kind of reminds
me of just a random example, like like if a
band like Talking Heads were to exist today and someone
(12:04):
asked me, Matt, what would you do with this band?
Speaker 8 (12:06):
You know?
Speaker 9 (12:06):
And obviously talking Heads was hugely commercially successful in the eighties,
But if someone said, you know, if they were out
today and Matt, someone said, Matt, what did you do
with this band? I don't. I don't know exactly. You know,
I'd want to do like maybe some college radio stuff
for them, but I don't know where I would put
them in terms of a commercially viable radio genre, and
I feel like your music is like that, where it's
it's catchy, it's accessible, the songs are great, but I
(12:28):
don't I don't know where they fit necessarily, and I'm
wondering if that's intentional on your part.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I think it's natural, but I do. I'm aware of
that definitely. I mean, I think for me, I think
the most I think of genre as like a geography.
You know, there are certain kinds of music that that's
right in the middle of it of a genre, and
you're like, oh, that's definitely dance pop, or that's definitely
(12:54):
e DM or that's definitely you know, metal. But I
think out of the edges of the borders of these genres,
it's there are artists who are doing stuff that kind
of freely mixes things and comes up with their own hybrids.
I mean. And that's that's where someone like Prince came from,
(13:17):
or Bowie True or Talking Heads, where like the Talking
Heads weren't commercially successful at first, right, it took a while, Yeah,
but now they're remembered because they did succeed as a
college rock band, and again that was college rock became
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alternative you know, in the eighties, alternative didn't necessarily mean
what it meant in the nineties, it was kind of
a catch all for stuff that wasn't in a specific,
you know, central style. That they often mixed a lot
of different things together, and so that's kind of my
natural that's my resting place kind of.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Yeah, and I've just.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
There's been times when I've been in bands where we
sort of really focused our sound into something that was,
you know, the her vanished grace. We called it power
dream pop, So we were kind of zeroing in on
a certain subset of alternative of post punk and dream pop,
and those are still strong influences in my music. But yeah,
(14:24):
I think especially in this album, I just allowed each
song to have its own character and its own landscape,
and it's kind of like a series of different movies
or stories. So my girlfriend said it, it's like they're
all different stories, and that kind of led to the
title of the album.
Speaker 9 (14:42):
Yeah, yeah, excellent, excellent. I do want to hear more
about the Bushwick Book Club because I'm curious if when
you when you bring a song into that that forum,
I mean, is that is that intimidating it all? Because
obviously other people are gonna are gonna have there there
there are judgments or assessments of it.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Well, it's fun because everybody has a different approach and
the book. For me, I always write a song that
can stand outside the Busher book Club performance. You don't
have to have read the book to enjoy it, you know,
and to relate to it. Usually I use some aspect
of the story or a character or an idea from
(15:26):
the book. Sometimes it's just one page in the book
like sets me off and I'm like, oh, this will
be good imagery for this thing that I've already been
thinking about. And that's kind of what happened with Wyn
and uh. That was part of an interesting uh, an
interesting thing that happened where we got invited to the
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Kurt Vonnegut Museum and Library for a whole week for
a residency.
Speaker 9 (15:54):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
And they have a series where they have a banned
book band book week.
Speaker 9 (16:01):
Oh nice.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
And usually usually it's writers that come and participate, but
since we've done a lot of Vonnegut in Bushwick book Club,
they invited a group of us. It was five of us,
and we spent the week there and at the end
of the week we presented songs that we had written
that week, all inspired by band books, and we had
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a concert Oh wow, And it was to make a
long story short, I was like, the last one to
finish my song. Everyone's gonna got a song going, and
I was like, I'm having really struggling. It was a
great book I was working on I was working with
called All Boys Aren't Blue. It was one of the
most banned books in two thousand and twenty two, really,
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and yeah, it was a it's a coming of age story,
it's a ya book about being young, black and queer,
and it was really a beautifully written book, but at
the time there was a strong book banning thing going
on in schools. So anyway, I woke up in the
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middle of the night with the chorus words to that
song I Just want You to Win, and I kind
of like just wrote it down in the notes app
on my phone. I got up in the morning and
I was like, whoa is this really feels good? And
then I'd also been thinking about some other stuff and
the song just all like poured out that morning, and
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we all supported each other in terms of being each
other's backup musicians for the concert. At the end of
the week, and so we started working on my song
and spirit Child was there doing his music and I
was like, you know, I think this would sound great
if you came up with something for this, And so
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at the show it was a kind of a combination
of stuff he had written, you know, in response to
my lyrics and freestyled kind of at the same time.
Oh okay, And that got recorded, and then when I
went to record the and it was so great, you know.
So when I recorded the album like a year or
two later, I asked Spiritual to contribute to it. And
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now recently we just at our album release show, he
was able to join us live on stage and it
was fantastic. It really kicked the room into overdrive. It
was so good.
Speaker 9 (18:25):
I can imagine, yeah, I can imagine, Yeah, that song
must go over well live anyway, I would think, because
it's got such an energy to it. And you know,
I really like the lyrics, and I think, you know,
you talked about what the lyrics are about, and I
think you even referenced this that you know, obviously they're
about that book, but also there's relatable themes within those
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lyrics that anyone can relate to. And and anyone who's
ever felt marginalized in some way or actually a lot
of a lot of your music I think is probably
relatable for anyone who's ever felt marginalized or ostracized or
I mean, I I feel like that's kind of a theme.
You know, you've kind of you've got everybody's back, you know,
you're in terms of what they're going through.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Well, I think, in my view and I envision that
we've created identities for ourselves that make it feel like
we're all separate from each other, but there's an underlying
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thing that we're all part of one energy wave. So
if all these things that we've taught ourselves about other
people and the way we relate to people that we
feel our adversaries or our enemies, actually they become very
close to us. You know, we really wrap ourselves up
and identifying ourselves in opposition to things, and if that
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dissolves a little bit, that's really a solvent for a
lot of the strife that's going on. And I just
want to be a part of that.
Speaker 9 (20:05):
Yeah, I notice that, you know, these ongoing sort of
cultural battles around gender identity and and all of it,
you know, which is seems like it's it's become so
heightened in these times, and I feel like the music
that you're making is really this is kind of the
moment for it, right.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yeah, I think I think we can be playful about it.
And I understand that a lot of it is comes
from fear and fear of people that we feel are
opposed to us or are you know, symbolize something of
an other. But so I'm sympathetic to that. I don't
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think people should be ostracized because of that, but I
also feel like, I don't know, I think everybody has
because there's there's been a the systems in place of
systematic racism and stuff like that. We all have work
to do, but it's it's something that we can all
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give each other some space to do instead of, you know,
being cruel to each other.
Speaker 9 (21:16):
No, I like the way you say that. I like
the way you say that because I think it's important
to you know, not everything. I mean, obviously, no one
should be ostracized and marginalized and all of that, but
I think that there's a difference, you know, fear, use
that term fear, and I think that's an important word
to use because people tend to fear what they don't understand,
or what they've never been exposed to, or what seems
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unusual to them. And you know, not all of that
stems from not all of it stems from hate. You know,
some people are just blinded with hate for the you know,
the quote unquote the other. And some people are just
you know, they're just afraid. And I think music is
a great music is a great vehicle to reach them.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
I think, Yeah, I think. I mean, we're only fifty
fifty hundred thousand years away from the Savannah, you know,
we were. There's a lot of evolutionary imperatives that were
still that created this amazing survival instinct that we have
as Homo sapiens. And but those things can really create
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problems for us too, right, And so we're still we
have all these instincts that cause us to be tribal
and cause us to to over identify with groups. I mean,
at the same time, we have a lot of wisdom
that comes through with and I think a lot of
it comes through culture and comes through art, and I
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think that helps dissolve some of this stuff and helps people,
you know, kind of forget to be so hateful.
Speaker 9 (22:55):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, do you see reactions with your music,
Do you see reactions from advocates, see groups, and is
there any any contact from anybody wanting you to get
involved with their organizations or anything because of your music specifically?
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Well, yeah, I did. In fact, I when I did
an interview with a journalist who has a series called
on Tyranny, and it was about artists and their reactions
to authoritarianism. So I said a bunch of this stuff
that I just said, you know, But at the same time,
I'm an artist, I'm not I'm getting more engaged politically,
(23:33):
just on a local level here where I live in
New Jersey. But yeah, that's just I think it's I
think getting hand ringing and doom scrolling about the national
political and world political situation can be a little overwhelming,
and I think if you just get involved on your
local level, that's way more helpful. So I've been doing
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that too.
Speaker 9 (23:56):
No, that's great, I think that's I think that's great advice.
I do want to talk a bit about the song Shame,
and we'll we'll play that at the end of our conversation. Actually,
I'm probably going to play both that and Brutalist Monuments
because at the end of our conversation because I love
both those songs, so I'll probably just play those two
back to back. But but I do want to talk
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about Shame because officially Shame is the current single. Is
that correct?
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Yeah, it was the second single. Yes, it's the current
single led the album.
Speaker 9 (24:27):
Okay, okay, yeah, I want to ask you about this.
This is another great track. There's an interesting line in
it too, we eroticize what we despise, and I'm I'm
curious about that. And uh, and if you can talk
to about the song and you know, in a broader
sense about what it's about, what the theme is, and
and how it relates to everything that we've been discussing.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Well, again, I think that this was a song that
was written. It's part of a Busherik book club event
based around a book called When brook When Brooklyn Was Queer,
and it was a history of queer and gay experience
in Brooklyn for the past few hundred years. And I
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was just really struck by There was a part in
the book where they described how there was a really
thriving waterfront scene in Brooklyn in like the eighteen eighties
and eighteen nineties, where and in the river on the
Hudson River part of Brooklyn, or the Gowanis River. Maybe
(25:33):
I'm sorry getting getting lost there, but that there was
a lot of drag performing and there was these were
kind of like bars and clubs where people would meet.
But at the same time, there were a lot of
people just came for the culture and came for the
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for the entertainment. And then at that time, there wasn't
even a word homosexual had really been coined yet, and
starting around I think it came into use around the
time Freud was writing, and after that it became a diagnosis.
And after that they started putting gays in jail in
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the New York area. They even made a special penitentiary
for them, did they really? I didn't know that really
in Brooklyn. Yeah, And it to me that just struck
me as like once the name got coined, then a
lot of people were able to focus in on that
and say, oh, this is the thing we're afraid of.
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And it just reminded me of now how there's so
much like sort of a fetishization of trans culture. And
like RuPaul's drag race was like water cooler TV. You know,
everybody talked about and everyone watched it and found it
really entertaining. But then when the transidentities got weaponized by politics,
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all of a sudden, those same people who are so
fascinated and kind of titillated by it were full of like, Okay,
let's get these people out of public of public view.
And I just think there's a real that my little phrase,
we eroticize what we despise again, it's like we get
wrapped up in identification with something that we are opposed to,
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and when actually there's a lot there's an extreme similarity
between what we think of as our shadow, you know. Yeah,
So this song is sort of like creates a couple
of different identities and the verses like one person is
going to see the entertainment and the other person is
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the entertainer, and they come together in the chorus where
one says you'll know what you are when I give
you a name, and the other says you'll know what
you are when you give me a name, and it
kind of goes back and forth, and then at the
end it's like, you know, we're basically the same, right.
Speaker 9 (28:17):
I love that. I love that. Oh, I want to
ask you about the video too, because I love the
video and I was reading that you worked with Hypno
Doll as the director and editor and Alice Teepele as cinematographer,
if I have that correct.
Speaker 7 (28:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yeah. Hypna Doll is a friend of mine who has
been doing my artwork for the past couple albums and
has done several videos for me, and we just relate
really well. And she came up with the concept for
the video of a band that kind of exists in
several different time zone timelines. Yeah, and so, and then
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we had a whole bunch of our friends kind of
join us at the end, like the band sort of
explodes into a bunch of different identities. But we did it.
You know, we did it in my recording studio.
Speaker 8 (29:04):
You know.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
It was definitely not trying to look high budget, but
it the editing is so good, has a great energy.
Speaker 9 (29:12):
It does it really does. No, it's great. I love it.
And uh yeah, that's it's so important too. I think
it's it to some people. It might sound odd to
say this in the year twenty twenty five, but I
think music videos are more important than they've ever been,
you know, especially now. I mean MTV is apparently going
away permanently, but they haven't played music videos in forever,
(29:34):
but uh, I've noticed, and I don't know if you've
noticed this. People outside the music industry, a lot of
people have this perception that music video as an art
form is dead, you know, because MTV gave up on it,
you know, a couple decades ago. But in reality, because
of social media, I think making videos and making a
great video, it's a great video, even if it's low budget,
it's I think it's fantastic, like like the video for Shame.
(29:56):
It's so it's so important as a as a tool
to get your you know, people. Still it's always been
the case, at least since I was a kid, and
it's still the case today. People listen with their eyes
just as much as they do with their ears exactly.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
There's been a lot of notice that came from exerpting
the video and putting up in little bites and then
sharing the whole video, but just also just that it
had a performance aspect involved all these other people. I mean,
but there are other videos that Himnadala has done for me,
like for the song Drown, that were more just full
(30:33):
of images and stuff, So I mean, I think they're different.
There's room for different ways to approach it, But I agree.
I want to make some more videos myself for some
of the for some more of the songs.
Speaker 9 (30:42):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt, no doubt. So what's kind of
the future trajectory? Do you have another? Is there another
single that's going to be coming after Shame or what's
what's kind of the short term or even the long
term plan.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Yeah, that there'll be one more single. I'm trying to
decide which one it is. It might be Brutalless Monuments,
or might be another completely different kind of song that's
called Today that's on the album as well. But I
don't know. I've put together a really great band and
we've started performing, and we have another show this month,
(31:20):
I'm sorry, in December. It's almost December, and I just
want to keep playing out and just bringing in new
possibilities by putting myself out there and playing the music.
And you know, I'm sure at some point I'll have
enough songs to do another release. I might not do
(31:41):
full albums. I said that this time. Yeah, I did
throughout full album, but I think you know, a lot
of times people just put on EPs now and they
don't have to take us long between releases. That's intriguing
to me. Yeah, But you know, I have a besides
the next show I have of as Charlie Eland for
my band, I'm doing a Loser's Lounge performance at the
(32:05):
beginning of December where they're doing Brian Wilson and the
Beach Boys, and I'm singing a Beach Boys song I
really love called All I Want to Do. And that's
really exciting to sing. It's really nerve wracking just to
sing one song in front of a crowded room, you know, yeah,
with a great, great band, But it's It's taught me
a lot about how to breathe and be in the moment,
(32:29):
and it's really helped my own performing for my music too.
Speaker 9 (32:33):
Oh excellent, excellent, Charlie. Where's the best place for people
to go online to keep up with everything that you're doing?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Well?
Speaker 8 (32:40):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Charlie land website and I E L A and d
yes And you know, I sell the music through band camp,
which isn't not all people know about that. I mean,
of course I'm on streaming all the streaming platforms, but
band camp is a way you can stream and you
can all so buy the music as a digital release.
(33:03):
In any form that you like. Yeah, and I you
know a lot of my artists friends work on that too,
and we all kind of support each other on that.
So check out band camp. I'm on band camp, I'm
on Apple Music and Spotify and all those places.
Speaker 9 (33:19):
Absolutely, absolutely well Charlie neland thank you so much for
joining us this morning. This has been fantastic. I'm actually
gonna play I will have time, so I'm gonna play
both Shame and then I'm gonna play Brutalist Monuments as well,
but both both great tracks. But I really appreciate you
joining us. This has been a fascinating discussion. I love
your music, and hey, when the next single is ready
(33:40):
to go, I definitely want to have you back on
if you're amenable.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
To that, I'd love that. Thank you so much, Matt.
This has been a total pleasure, wonderful.
Speaker 9 (33:48):
All right, thanks Charlie. We'll let you go and now
have a great have a great weekend.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
You too, all right, take care, bye bye bye bye.
Speaker 9 (33:55):
All right, that was Charlie Niland And let's play these.
I'm gonna play both of these. We're gonna play Shame.
This is a great track. Yeah, pay attention to the lyrics,
and I appreciate I appreciate the song even more now
that I know after talking to Charlie, now that I
know exactly what's going on, uh in these lyrics and
the different characters. But yeah, this is this is interesting,
so pay attention. But this is really good. This is
(34:16):
shame by Charlie Neland yeah, m hm, you're.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
A perfect fit for my misinformed rage scanning down the page,
dancing on the stage. We tend to be replaced by
this catestriphizing space. I want to mask a rade.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
And disappearing worlds.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
You're looking like a man, but.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Just sound just like a girl by meed of the
things that I could never tame.
Speaker 10 (35:12):
You know what you are?
Speaker 3 (35:13):
When give you name down by the waterfront, you cannot
go away.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Today is just the day you found a part two
play same space, dying to be heard by an adverse.
Speaker 10 (35:43):
Flirt black bilt in cell work of.
Speaker 14 (35:51):
Art, footing forward, taste of your collective blame, shame, don't
know what you are?
Speaker 9 (36:07):
Wind give me a name, shame.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
See if bizarre to you will disguise.
Speaker 7 (36:16):
Your own pain.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Call it little darling, I call a little child for
your attention with starving.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Cool so composed the cools full of rage? Who is
in control? Who is in the cage? Push the button
when it plays.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Out on the stage.
Speaker 10 (36:46):
Shame, You don't know who you are when you find
him what you're blame? Shame, you know what you.
Speaker 9 (36:57):
Are when you mean name.
Speaker 8 (37:00):
Shame where exactly exactly exactly the same?
Speaker 15 (37:07):
Shame when you kidder, when you're kidder, until you're kidder,
When you kidder when.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
You're kidder the name when you.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
Kid show.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Shows fiction and destruction.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
We can't seem to give more than we take.
Speaker 6 (38:21):
We are so constructed, designed to reveal our dead mistakes,
the form expressing nothing except to stay alive at derny cars.
Could it be we're bluffing, picking up for something that
(38:45):
we've lost.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Our groups lest.
Speaker 10 (38:51):
One hundred thousand years surviving?
Speaker 4 (38:55):
Just what didly?
Speaker 2 (38:57):
We cannot find the soul in side of.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
See how fun we travel?
Speaker 6 (39:13):
We were starstaand slimed in things with brains, all our
plans on level.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
How are we social? We're not the same?
Speaker 2 (39:28):
How are we superior? We can't even see just what
we are.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Enjoy the plush interior, rows and rows of monkey head
some jobs.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
We are roots less, severn hearts in my connection.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Now here comes the twiz.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
He become the architecture, biking monuments to miss the direction.
Speaker 10 (40:05):
So bred.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
Victory by the this section.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
Fiction by destruction, we just cannot help but take that shape.
We are so constructed, designed to reveal our big mistakes.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
We our roots less.
Speaker 11 (40:45):
Severn hearts, and by connection now becomes twist.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
He become the architecture.
Speaker 7 (40:55):
He became.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Monuments to mister Boutell best.
Speaker 13 (41:04):
Mom, you man.
Speaker 9 (41:11):
Foodte thats.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Ma, you man, booto.
Speaker 9 (41:25):
Mom, you man Buchell, thats.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
Mom, you man.
Speaker 9 (42:24):
It's just epic. That is brutalist monuments, that is Charlie Neland.
And before that we heard Shame, the current single from
Charlie Neland, and really loved talking with him. If you
missed any of it, definitely go back and check it out.
I want to thank everybody who joined us today on
Matt Connorton Unleashed. Of course, in the first hour we
had six minds combined, and then in the second hour
(42:44):
we had let's see, Jamie Higgs joined us to talk
about his newest single. We talk followed by Adam Adam
Hughes from at H and I really enjoyed talking with
him too, so fun show today. If you missed any
part of it, it'll be up in just a little
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(43:04):
If you want to keep up with everything that she's doing,
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Like I said, a couple other quick things. Uh, my dad,
if he's listening, Dad, I love you, uh quick shout
out to him. He did say he was going to
(43:25):
listen this morning. I don't want to say too much
about it because I want to protect his privacy, but
he's been under the weather quite severely, so I appreciate
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my dad's way. He could certainly use it now.
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I think he's going to make it through it. But
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So we'll do our world radio premieres. We have a
few premieres to share that we shared at the top
of the show today, but if you missed them, I'm
going to play them again right now. Some amazing artists
who again these are artists who they have not been
heard prior to today on American radio. And we here
(44:48):
on Matt Connorton Unleashed and at WMNH ninety five point
three have the honor and privilege of being the first
American radio stations to play these incredible new singles from
these artists and very very excited about that. So appreciate
all the support, Love you all, and that's gonna do
it for this. Matt Connorton Unleashed here and again. If
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(45:10):
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it for us for now. We'll talk to you a
little bit later. Here's some world premieres for you. Bye, everybody.
Speaker 13 (45:38):
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Three and now the world radio premiere of the new
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Here's another exclusive, the new single by the forensics. This
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Here's another exclusive premiere for you this week, the new
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Speaker 18 (53:20):
Found Forever. Like member Connessa, I know that whereever you go,
that's is the distance, and you find.
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Such a great track? That is when Charlie Nyland or Niland?
I think it's Niland, but we're going to ask him
in just a moment because he is joining us online.
Welcome everybody, if you are listening live. Today is Saturday,
November twenty two, twenty twenty five. This is Matt Connorton
Unleashed and we have entered our number three New Marrow
trace of our program this morning from the studios of
(05:35):
WMNH ninety five point three FM in Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire.
And of course you can stream the show from anywhere.
Go to Matt connorton dot com slash live for all
of your live streaming options, social media links, contact infosho, archives,
et cetera, et cetera. But let's get Charlie in here
because I am dying to talk with him. Charlie, are
you there, Hi, Matt, Hey, Welcome to the show. First question,
(05:57):
how do you say your last name?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Nilandland?
Speaker 9 (06:00):
Okay?
Speaker 12 (06:01):
Good? I got it right.
Speaker 9 (06:01):
I thought so, but I wasn't one hundred percent sure.
I love that song when and we'll talk about that,
and we'll talk about a lot of things. But what
a great track. Who is that on the song with
you at the end? Who's rapping?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
His name is Spirit Child. He's based out of Staten Island.
I've known him here in the New York City area
for about ten years. For we both are in this
thing called the Bushwick book Club. It's a performance series. Oh,
I'll tell you more about it when we get to
the song.
Speaker 9 (06:29):
But he's great, sure, sure, yeah, no, he's really good.
It's kind of it's one of those things where when
you listen to the song for the first time, you
don't expect that, but it just it's a surprise, but
it's so seamless, like it just fits so perfectly.
Speaker 8 (06:45):
You know.
Speaker 9 (06:46):
It's it's a nice surprise because sometimes somebody might try
to do something like that and you go, I don't know,
it seems a little forced or whatever, but that is
it just fits in perfectly. So good, so good. Absolutely,
And you've got an album, let's see this. I guess
this has been out for a little while now, Stories
from the Borderlines or this just came out last month, actually, right.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Yeah, it's just been a few weeks.
Speaker 9 (07:09):
Oh yeah, so this is very new. You've got a
new single called Shame. I thought about playing that one,
but we'll probably play that one a little later in
the show because I wanted to play when I wanted
to open with that. It's such a great positive song.
But you've done You've done a lot of work. You're
you've been around a while, you know, you've worked with
people like Debbie Harry, Blondie, Rufus, Wainwright, Scissor Sisters. You're
(07:32):
a composer. You know, you've done film and television. I
really want to know. Tell us a little bit about
your background, and then we'll kind of talk about what
we're we'll come back to what you're doing now with
your music, but I also would like to know more
about you.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Well, I'm from the Midwest, but I came to the
East Coast and graduated from college and moved to New
York City, and then I was in a band called
her Vanished Grace for about twenty five years, and a
couple other bands throughout the nineties and into the two thousands.
But in the beginning of the two thousands, I kind
(08:08):
of stumbled into a situation where I was working on
a film score for this movie called The Safety of Objects,
and then I started producing. I became part of a
production team, and that's where I worked with Debbie Harry
on her solo album called Necessary Evil, which came out
(08:29):
in two thousand and seven, and that was a really
exciting experience, and basically we just continued writing with her
after the album came out and ended up having some
of those songs be on the Next Blondie record in
twenty eleven.
Speaker 9 (08:47):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
And since since about twenty thirteen, I've been working on
being a solo artist in addition to producing people. And
that's where I met Yeah. This is my fourth album.
Speaker 9 (09:02):
Oh no kidding, Okay, what do you find most satisfying?
I mean, is working on your own music as a
soul artist?
Speaker 13 (09:08):
Is that?
Speaker 9 (09:09):
I don't know if more satisfying is probably probably not
necessarily how you'd want to put it, but you understand
what I'm asking you. I mean, do you get what
do you get the most from in terms of what
you're doing because you've worked in all these different areas well.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
It's an interesting challenge because I've been in bands a
lot of times where I was I did get to
sing my songs, but it was in like a group
where there was more than one singer, so I was
always like the other singer when there's a female vocalist,
you know. And so I've been writing songs for a
long time and co writing with people, and in the
(09:46):
past ten years I've got involved, as I mentioned, with
this performance series called the Bushwick Book Club, where each
month the book is selected and songwriters react to the
book and write a song and then there's a sh
where all the songs are presented, and I sort of
got involved in producing that, so I ended up writing
(10:08):
a lot of songs that way. Yeah, And I don't know,
I've just been expanding my circle and getting involved with
things like that and another series called The Loser's Lounge,
which is here in New York, where we sing at
Joe's Pub with a fantastic backing band. It's it's covers,
but it's like there's a theme each for each performance.
(10:32):
But I found that these things have helped me kind
of find my identity as an artist, as a performing artist,
and I'm really excited about it now. I enjoy playing
full sets of my own music and I feel like,
you know, I'm a vehicle for this thing that's coming
through me, and so you know, I do love collaborating those. Yeah,
(10:57):
And I get to do that a lot in production.
When I produce my own music, it does it gets
to be It's interesting because I can really take my
time in certain parts of the process and just try
a lot of different ideas and slowly build up layers.
I think on stories from the borderlines. There's a lot
(11:19):
of that it's kind of like a musical diary.
Speaker 9 (11:21):
Okay, okay, In terms of how you approach how you
approach songwriting, I'm curious if do you consciously try to
do something that's that's unique and out of the mainstream
or does that sort of happen organically because these songs,
you know, none of them are anything that you would
(11:42):
necessarily hear, Like, I don't know what radio format they
would fit into necessarily on commercial radio. You know, they're
they're they're different, which is what makes them so interesting.
They're very catchy, they're very catchy and listenable. They're accessible,
but they're but they're also unique. It kind of reminds
me of just a random example, like like if a
band like Talking Heads were to exist today and someone
(12:04):
asked me, Matt, what would you do with this band?
Speaker 8 (12:06):
You know?
Speaker 9 (12:06):
And obviously talking Heads was hugely commercially successful in the eighties,
But if someone said, you know, if they were out
today and Matt, someone said, Matt, what did you do
with this band? I don't. I don't know exactly. You know,
I'd want to do like maybe some college radio stuff
for them, but I don't know where I would put
them in terms of a commercially viable radio genre, and
I feel like your music is like that, where it's
it's catchy, it's accessible, the songs are great, but I
(12:28):
don't I don't know where they fit necessarily, and I'm
wondering if that's intentional on your part.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I think it's natural, but I do. I'm aware of
that definitely. I mean, I think for me, I think
the most I think of genre as like a geography.
You know, there are certain kinds of music that that's
right in the middle of it of a genre, and
you're like, oh, that's definitely dance pop, or that's definitely
(12:54):
e DM or that's definitely you know, metal. But I
think out of the edges of the borders of these genres,
it's there are artists who are doing stuff that kind
of freely mixes things and comes up with their own hybrids.
I mean. And that's that's where someone like Prince came from,
(13:17):
or Bowie True or Talking Heads, where like the Talking
Heads weren't commercially successful at first, right, it took a while, Yeah,
but now they're remembered because they did succeed as a
college rock band, and again that was college rock became
(13:37):
alternative you know, in the eighties, alternative didn't necessarily mean
what it meant in the nineties, it was kind of
a catch all for stuff that wasn't in a specific,
you know, central style. That they often mixed a lot
of different things together, and so that's kind of my
natural that's my resting place kind of.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Yeah, and I've just.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
There's been times when I've been in bands where we
sort of really focused our sound into something that was,
you know, the her vanished grace. We called it power
dream pop, So we were kind of zeroing in on
a certain subset of alternative of post punk and dream pop,
and those are still strong influences in my music. But yeah,
(14:24):
I think especially in this album, I just allowed each
song to have its own character and its own landscape,
and it's kind of like a series of different movies
or stories. So my girlfriend said it, it's like they're
all different stories, and that kind of led to the
title of the album.
Speaker 9 (14:42):
Yeah, yeah, excellent, excellent. I do want to hear more
about the Bushwick Book Club because I'm curious if when
you when you bring a song into that that forum,
I mean, is that is that intimidating it all? Because
obviously other people are gonna are gonna have there there
there are judgments or assessments of it.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Well, it's fun because everybody has a different approach and
the book. For me, I always write a song that
can stand outside the Busher book Club performance. You don't
have to have read the book to enjoy it, you know,
and to relate to it. Usually I use some aspect
of the story or a character or an idea from
(15:26):
the book. Sometimes it's just one page in the book
like sets me off and I'm like, oh, this will
be good imagery for this thing that I've already been
thinking about. And that's kind of what happened with Wyn
and uh. That was part of an interesting uh, an
interesting thing that happened where we got invited to the
(15:47):
Kurt Vonnegut Museum and Library for a whole week for
a residency.
Speaker 9 (15:54):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
And they have a series where they have a banned
book band book week.
Speaker 9 (16:01):
Oh nice.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
And usually usually it's writers that come and participate, but
since we've done a lot of Vonnegut in Bushwick book Club,
they invited a group of us. It was five of us,
and we spent the week there and at the end
of the week we presented songs that we had written
that week, all inspired by band books, and we had
(16:23):
a concert Oh wow, And it was to make a
long story short, I was like, the last one to
finish my song. Everyone's gonna got a song going, and
I was like, I'm having really struggling. It was a
great book I was working on I was working with
called All Boys Aren't Blue. It was one of the
most banned books in two thousand and twenty two, really,
(16:47):
and yeah, it was a it's a coming of age story,
it's a ya book about being young, black and queer,
and it was really a beautifully written book, but at
the time there was a strong book banning thing going
on in schools. So anyway, I woke up in the
(17:09):
middle of the night with the chorus words to that
song I Just want You to Win, and I kind
of like just wrote it down in the notes app
on my phone. I got up in the morning and
I was like, whoa is this really feels good? And
then I'd also been thinking about some other stuff and
the song just all like poured out that morning, and
(17:29):
we all supported each other in terms of being each
other's backup musicians for the concert. At the end of
the week, and so we started working on my song
and spirit Child was there doing his music and I
was like, you know, I think this would sound great
if you came up with something for this, And so
(17:51):
at the show it was a kind of a combination
of stuff he had written, you know, in response to
my lyrics and freestyled kind of at the same time.
Oh okay, And that got recorded, and then when I
went to record the and it was so great, you know.
So when I recorded the album like a year or
two later, I asked Spiritual to contribute to it. And
(18:15):
now recently we just at our album release show, he
was able to join us live on stage and it
was fantastic. It really kicked the room into overdrive. It
was so good.
Speaker 9 (18:25):
I can imagine, yeah, I can imagine, Yeah, that song
must go over well live anyway, I would think, because
it's got such an energy to it. And you know,
I really like the lyrics, and I think, you know,
you talked about what the lyrics are about, and I
think you even referenced this that you know, obviously they're
about that book, but also there's relatable themes within those
(18:46):
lyrics that anyone can relate to. And and anyone who's
ever felt marginalized in some way or actually a lot
of a lot of your music I think is probably
relatable for anyone who's ever felt marginalized or ostracized or
I mean, I I feel like that's kind of a theme.
You know, you've kind of you've got everybody's back, you know,
you're in terms of what they're going through.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Well, I think, in my view and I envision that
we've created identities for ourselves that make it feel like
we're all separate from each other, but there's an underlying
(19:29):
thing that we're all part of one energy wave. So
if all these things that we've taught ourselves about other
people and the way we relate to people that we
feel our adversaries or our enemies, actually they become very
close to us. You know, we really wrap ourselves up
and identifying ourselves in opposition to things, and if that
(19:54):
dissolves a little bit, that's really a solvent for a
lot of the strife that's going on. And I just
want to be a part of that.
Speaker 9 (20:05):
Yeah, I notice that, you know, these ongoing sort of
cultural battles around gender identity and and all of it,
you know, which is seems like it's it's become so
heightened in these times, and I feel like the music
that you're making is really this is kind of the
moment for it, right.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yeah, I think I think we can be playful about it.
And I understand that a lot of it is comes
from fear and fear of people that we feel are
opposed to us or are you know, symbolize something of
an other. But so I'm sympathetic to that. I don't
(20:49):
think people should be ostracized because of that, but I
also feel like, I don't know, I think everybody has
because there's there's been a the systems in place of
systematic racism and stuff like that. We all have work
to do, but it's it's something that we can all
(21:11):
give each other some space to do instead of, you know,
being cruel to each other.
Speaker 9 (21:16):
No, I like the way you say that. I like
the way you say that because I think it's important
to you know, not everything. I mean, obviously, no one
should be ostracized and marginalized and all of that, but
I think that there's a difference, you know, fear, use
that term fear, and I think that's an important word
to use because people tend to fear what they don't understand,
or what they've never been exposed to, or what seems
(21:38):
unusual to them. And you know, not all of that
stems from not all of it stems from hate. You know,
some people are just blinded with hate for the you know,
the quote unquote the other. And some people are just
you know, they're just afraid. And I think music is
a great music is a great vehicle to reach them.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
I think, Yeah, I think. I mean, we're only fifty
fifty hundred thousand years away from the Savannah, you know,
we were. There's a lot of evolutionary imperatives that were
still that created this amazing survival instinct that we have
as Homo sapiens. And but those things can really create
(22:21):
problems for us too, right, And so we're still we
have all these instincts that cause us to be tribal
and cause us to to over identify with groups. I mean,
at the same time, we have a lot of wisdom
that comes through with and I think a lot of
it comes through culture and comes through art, and I
(22:44):
think that helps dissolve some of this stuff and helps people,
you know, kind of forget to be so hateful.
Speaker 9 (22:55):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, do you see reactions with your music,
Do you see reactions from advocates, see groups, and is
there any any contact from anybody wanting you to get
involved with their organizations or anything because of your music specifically?
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Well, yeah, I did. In fact, I when I did
an interview with a journalist who has a series called
on Tyranny, and it was about artists and their reactions
to authoritarianism. So I said a bunch of this stuff
that I just said, you know, But at the same time,
I'm an artist, I'm not I'm getting more engaged politically,
(23:33):
just on a local level here where I live in
New Jersey. But yeah, that's just I think it's I
think getting hand ringing and doom scrolling about the national
political and world political situation can be a little overwhelming,
and I think if you just get involved on your
local level, that's way more helpful. So I've been doing
(23:56):
that too.
Speaker 9 (23:56):
No, that's great, I think that's I think that's great advice.
I do want to talk a bit about the song Shame,
and we'll we'll play that at the end of our conversation. Actually,
I'm probably going to play both that and Brutalist Monuments
because at the end of our conversation because I love
both those songs, so I'll probably just play those two
back to back. But but I do want to talk
(24:17):
about Shame because officially Shame is the current single. Is
that correct?
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Yeah, it was the second single. Yes, it's the current
single led the album.
Speaker 9 (24:27):
Okay, okay, yeah, I want to ask you about this.
This is another great track. There's an interesting line in
it too, we eroticize what we despise, and I'm I'm
curious about that. And uh, and if you can talk
to about the song and you know, in a broader
sense about what it's about, what the theme is, and
and how it relates to everything that we've been discussing.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Well, again, I think that this was a song that
was written. It's part of a Busherik book club event
based around a book called When brook When Brooklyn Was Queer,
and it was a history of queer and gay experience
in Brooklyn for the past few hundred years. And I
(25:11):
was just really struck by There was a part in
the book where they described how there was a really
thriving waterfront scene in Brooklyn in like the eighteen eighties
and eighteen nineties, where and in the river on the
Hudson River part of Brooklyn, or the Gowanis River. Maybe
(25:33):
I'm sorry getting getting lost there, but that there was
a lot of drag performing and there was these were
kind of like bars and clubs where people would meet.
But at the same time, there were a lot of
people just came for the culture and came for the
(25:53):
for the entertainment. And then at that time, there wasn't
even a word homosexual had really been coined yet, and
starting around I think it came into use around the
time Freud was writing, and after that it became a diagnosis.
And after that they started putting gays in jail in
(26:17):
the New York area. They even made a special penitentiary
for them, did they really? I didn't know that really
in Brooklyn. Yeah, And it to me that just struck
me as like once the name got coined, then a
lot of people were able to focus in on that
and say, oh, this is the thing we're afraid of.
(26:40):
And it just reminded me of now how there's so
much like sort of a fetishization of trans culture. And
like RuPaul's drag race was like water cooler TV. You know,
everybody talked about and everyone watched it and found it
really entertaining. But then when the transidentities got weaponized by politics,
(27:06):
all of a sudden, those same people who are so
fascinated and kind of titillated by it were full of like, Okay,
let's get these people out of public of public view.
And I just think there's a real that my little phrase,
we eroticize what we despise again, it's like we get
wrapped up in identification with something that we are opposed to,
(27:31):
and when actually there's a lot there's an extreme similarity
between what we think of as our shadow, you know. Yeah,
So this song is sort of like creates a couple
of different identities and the verses like one person is
going to see the entertainment and the other person is
(27:54):
the entertainer, and they come together in the chorus where
one says you'll know what you are when I give
you a name, and the other says you'll know what
you are when you give me a name, and it
kind of goes back and forth, and then at the
end it's like, you know, we're basically the same, right.
Speaker 9 (28:17):
I love that. I love that. Oh, I want to
ask you about the video too, because I love the
video and I was reading that you worked with Hypno
Doll as the director and editor and Alice Teepele as cinematographer,
if I have that correct.
Speaker 7 (28:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yeah. Hypna Doll is a friend of mine who has
been doing my artwork for the past couple albums and
has done several videos for me, and we just relate
really well. And she came up with the concept for
the video of a band that kind of exists in
several different time zone timelines. Yeah, and so, and then
(28:53):
we had a whole bunch of our friends kind of
join us at the end, like the band sort of
explodes into a bunch of different identities. But we did it.
You know, we did it in my recording studio.
Speaker 8 (29:04):
You know.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
It was definitely not trying to look high budget, but
it the editing is so good, has a great energy.
Speaker 9 (29:12):
It does it really does. No, it's great. I love it.
And uh yeah, that's it's so important too. I think
it's it to some people. It might sound odd to
say this in the year twenty twenty five, but I
think music videos are more important than they've ever been,
you know, especially now. I mean MTV is apparently going
away permanently, but they haven't played music videos in forever,
(29:34):
but uh, I've noticed, and I don't know if you've
noticed this. People outside the music industry, a lot of
people have this perception that music video as an art
form is dead, you know, because MTV gave up on it,
you know, a couple decades ago. But in reality, because
of social media, I think making videos and making a
great video, it's a great video, even if it's low budget,
it's I think it's fantastic, like like the video for Shame.
(29:56):
It's so it's so important as a as a tool
to get your you know, people. Still it's always been
the case, at least since I was a kid, and
it's still the case today. People listen with their eyes
just as much as they do with their ears exactly.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
There's been a lot of notice that came from exerpting
the video and putting up in little bites and then
sharing the whole video, but just also just that it
had a performance aspect involved all these other people. I mean,
but there are other videos that Himnadala has done for me,
like for the song Drown, that were more just full
(30:33):
of images and stuff, So I mean, I think they're different.
There's room for different ways to approach it, But I agree.
I want to make some more videos myself for some
of the for some more of the songs.
Speaker 9 (30:42):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt, no doubt. So what's kind of
the future trajectory? Do you have another? Is there another
single that's going to be coming after Shame or what's
what's kind of the short term or even the long
term plan.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Yeah, that there'll be one more single. I'm trying to
decide which one it is. It might be Brutalless Monuments,
or might be another completely different kind of song that's
called Today that's on the album as well. But I
don't know. I've put together a really great band and
we've started performing, and we have another show this month,
(31:20):
I'm sorry, in December. It's almost December, and I just
want to keep playing out and just bringing in new
possibilities by putting myself out there and playing the music.
And you know, I'm sure at some point I'll have
enough songs to do another release. I might not do
(31:41):
full albums. I said that this time. Yeah, I did
throughout full album, but I think you know, a lot
of times people just put on EPs now and they
don't have to take us long between releases. That's intriguing
to me. Yeah, But you know, I have a besides
the next show I have of as Charlie Eland for
my band, I'm doing a Loser's Lounge performance at the
(32:05):
beginning of December where they're doing Brian Wilson and the
Beach Boys, and I'm singing a Beach Boys song I
really love called All I Want to Do. And that's
really exciting to sing. It's really nerve wracking just to
sing one song in front of a crowded room, you know, yeah,
with a great, great band, But it's It's taught me
a lot about how to breathe and be in the moment,
(32:29):
and it's really helped my own performing for my music too.
Speaker 9 (32:33):
Oh excellent, excellent, Charlie. Where's the best place for people
to go online to keep up with everything that you're doing?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Well?
Speaker 8 (32:40):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Charlie land website and I E L A and d
yes And you know, I sell the music through band camp,
which isn't not all people know about that. I mean,
of course I'm on streaming all the streaming platforms, but
band camp is a way you can stream and you
can all so buy the music as a digital release.
(33:03):
In any form that you like. Yeah, and I you
know a lot of my artists friends work on that too,
and we all kind of support each other on that.
So check out band camp. I'm on band camp, I'm
on Apple Music and Spotify and all those places.
Speaker 9 (33:19):
Absolutely, absolutely well Charlie neland thank you so much for
joining us this morning. This has been fantastic. I'm actually
gonna play I will have time, so I'm gonna play
both Shame and then I'm gonna play Brutalist Monuments as well,
but both both great tracks. But I really appreciate you
joining us. This has been a fascinating discussion. I love
your music, and hey, when the next single is ready
(33:40):
to go, I definitely want to have you back on
if you're amenable.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
To that, I'd love that. Thank you so much, Matt.
This has been a total pleasure, wonderful.
Speaker 9 (33:48):
All right, thanks Charlie. We'll let you go and now
have a great have a great weekend.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
You too, all right, take care, bye bye bye bye.
Speaker 9 (33:55):
All right, that was Charlie Niland And let's play these.
I'm gonna play both of these. We're gonna play Shame.
This is a great track. Yeah, pay attention to the lyrics,
and I appreciate I appreciate the song even more now
that I know after talking to Charlie, now that I
know exactly what's going on, uh in these lyrics and
the different characters. But yeah, this is this is interesting,
so pay attention. But this is really good. This is
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shame by Charlie Neland yeah, m hm, you're.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
A perfect fit for my misinformed rage scanning down the page,
dancing on the stage. We tend to be replaced by
this catestriphizing space. I want to mask a rade.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
And disappearing worlds.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
You're looking like a man, but.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Just sound just like a girl by meed of the
things that I could never tame.
Speaker 10 (35:12):
You know what you are?
Speaker 3 (35:13):
When give you name down by the waterfront, you cannot
go away.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Today is just the day you found a part two
play same space, dying to be heard by an adverse.
Speaker 10 (35:43):
Flirt black bilt in cell work of.
Speaker 14 (35:51):
Art, footing forward, taste of your collective blame, shame, don't
know what you are?
Speaker 9 (36:07):
Wind give me a name, shame.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
See if bizarre to you will disguise.
Speaker 7 (36:16):
Your own pain.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Call it little darling, I call a little child for
your attention with starving.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Cool so composed the cools full of rage? Who is
in control? Who is in the cage? Push the button
when it plays.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Out on the stage.
Speaker 10 (36:46):
Shame, You don't know who you are when you find
him what you're blame? Shame, you know what you.
Speaker 9 (36:57):
Are when you mean name.
Speaker 8 (37:00):
Shame where exactly exactly exactly the same?
Speaker 15 (37:07):
Shame when you kidder, when you're kidder, until you're kidder,
When you kidder when.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
You're kidder the name when you.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
Kid show.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Shows fiction and destruction.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
We can't seem to give more than we take.
Speaker 6 (38:21):
We are so constructed, designed to reveal our dead mistakes,
the form expressing nothing except to stay alive at derny cars.
Could it be we're bluffing, picking up for something that
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we've lost.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Our groups lest.
Speaker 10 (38:51):
One hundred thousand years surviving?
Speaker 4 (38:55):
Just what didly?
Speaker 2 (38:57):
We cannot find the soul in side of.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
See how fun we travel?
Speaker 6 (39:13):
We were starstaand slimed in things with brains, all our
plans on level.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
How are we social? We're not the same?
Speaker 2 (39:28):
How are we superior? We can't even see just what
we are.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Enjoy the plush interior, rows and rows of monkey head
some jobs.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
We are roots less, severn hearts in my connection.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Now here comes the twiz.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
He become the architecture, biking monuments to miss the direction.
Speaker 10 (40:05):
So bred.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
Victory by the this section.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
Fiction by destruction, we just cannot help but take that shape.
We are so constructed, designed to reveal our big mistakes.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
We our roots less.
Speaker 11 (40:45):
Severn hearts, and by connection now becomes twist.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
He become the architecture.
Speaker 7 (40:55):
He became.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Monuments to mister Boutell best.
Speaker 13 (41:04):
Mom, you man.
Speaker 9 (41:11):
Foodte thats.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Ma, you man, booto.
Speaker 9 (41:25):
Mom, you man Buchell, thats.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
Mom, you man.
Speaker 9 (42:24):
It's just epic. That is brutalist monuments, that is Charlie Neland.
And before that we heard Shame, the current single from
Charlie Neland, and really loved talking with him. If you
missed any of it, definitely go back and check it out.
I want to thank everybody who joined us today on
Matt Connorton Unleashed. Of course, in the first hour we
had six minds combined, and then in the second hour
(42:44):
we had let's see, Jamie Higgs joined us to talk
about his newest single. We talk followed by Adam Adam
Hughes from at H and I really enjoyed talking with
him too, so fun show today. If you missed any
part of it, it'll be up in just a little
bit at WMMH Radio dot organ in my website Matt
Connorton dot com. Jenny should be back with us next week.
(43:04):
If you want to keep up with everything that she's doing,
go to Jencoffee dot com. And if you want to
keep up with everything I'm doing, go to Matt Connorton
dot com. And uh, really appreciate everyone who joined us today.
Like I said, a couple other quick things. Uh, my dad,
if he's listening, Dad, I love you, uh quick shout
out to him. He did say he was going to
(43:25):
listen this morning. I don't want to say too much
about it because I want to protect his privacy, but
he's been under the weather quite severely, so I appreciate
any prayer's positive energy, whatever you would like to send
my dad's way. He could certainly use it now.
Speaker 16 (43:40):
You know.
Speaker 9 (43:40):
I think he's going to make it through it. But
again I don't want to say too too much, but
but he's you know, things, things have been tough for him,
so to say the very least. So uh So, hello Dad,
if you're listening this morning, and uh uh thinking of you,
of course. And the other thing I want to mention too,
just briefly, is uh, come see Monday nights at Shorty's
(44:02):
Mexican Roadhouse in Manchester. It's right on the Manchester Hooks
at border. But if you don't know, I run trivia
there every Monday night from six to eight pm. It's
a lot of fun and come see me and you
can win a gift card for Shorties. The food is amazing,
the staff there is incredible, and you get to hang
out with me for a couple hours. So king trivia
(44:23):
every Monday night at Shorty's Mexican Roadhouse from six to
eight pm. I think that's gonna do it for now.
So we'll do our world radio premieres. We have a
few premieres to share that we shared at the top
of the show today, but if you missed them, I'm
going to play them again right now. Some amazing artists
who again these are artists who they have not been
heard prior to today on American radio. And we here
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on Matt Connorton Unleashed and at WMNH ninety five point
three have the honor and privilege of being the first
American radio stations to play these incredible new singles from
these artists and very very excited about that. So appreciate
all the support, Love you all, and that's gonna do
it for this. Matt Connorton Unleashed here and again. If
you missed any part of it, go to wmnhradio dot
(45:10):
org to get the show, or you can go to
my website Mattconnorton dot com, or get the podcast version
on the podcast platform of your choice. It is very
easy to find, and it's very easy to find my
name because Connorton is not a common name, So if
you google Matt Connorton, chances are you're going to find me.
There are not many Connortons. All right, that's gonna do
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it for us for now. We'll talk to you a
little bit later. Here's some world premieres for you. Bye, everybody.
Speaker 13 (45:38):
You're listening to Matt Connorton Unleashed on WMNHW five point.
Speaker 9 (45:44):
Three and now the world radio premiere of the new
single from Rivia Something in the Water.
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Oh you can see me now, fit out would make
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Sting.
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Always chasing something.
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Am I going on my way?
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Not want to the awful look that you never thought
that you I am lunch to you.
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And all your games me, I mean it all.
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There's nothing for me.
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I said, I don't want to tell you that I wanted.
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The Southern.
Speaker 9 (48:52):
Here's another exclusive, the new single by the forensics. This
is called not giving up. There's nothing near.
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I found me your own school breed chance.
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It's not the thing that they could try to teach us.
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Well, the will it's changed.
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She chance to dig.
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Got me.
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It's something lost on her share where always meaning so
we never lend day, he said, let him save He
had decided honestly.
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Cause I know not you didn't know.
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It's take an chance, Nay, it's not dead and.
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Some problem that it comes the least stay up tonight.
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When Dolph says.
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There's not even though to bee the one you will
figure out to mom never comes us to stands out tonight,
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I know why God if he no say nine says
it's my and some mom never comes. There's the stands
out tonight?
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It's a lot of times stout that TODs to stay,
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listens to stay.
Speaker 9 (52:55):
Here's another exclusive premiere for you this week, the new
single from Paul Nasal neighbor Cadnezzar.
Speaker 18 (53:20):
Found Forever. Like member Connessa, I know that whereever you go,
that's is the distance, and you find.
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The difference so much less than you know.
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I said the under the Cognac thunder serenity.
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Or instead.
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My life found the break the ships. I still see
no thoughts.
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Left to say.
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It's not a dream of a distance between us, and
still I cannot.
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Let you come.
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Stops making notions and sicklical oceans.
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See how the watters.
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Can leave in my love on the shop, Fly home
to answer a cold.
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Days of confusion, the love the illusion with est into.
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The shows through blo disentition to see revelation about it
is open to you.
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When Matso wakes up in the morning, he gets into
the shower and to the top of his lungs.
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He sings.
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The radio show Now all the Best and Jammy.
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