December 13, 2025 • 58 mins
w/Dotsun Moon
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Speaker 4 (04:45):
Good morning, everybody, welcome, Here we go. It is that
time again, Matt Connorton unleashed and we are live from
the studios of w m n H ninety five point
three f M Inglorious, Manchester, New Hampshire. Of course, you
can stream the show from anywhere. Go to Matt connorton
dot com slash live for all your live streaming options,
(05:07):
social media links, contact info, show archives, et cetera, et cetera.
Today is a Saturday, December thirteen, twenty twenty five, and
I am not alone.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Jenny shows Good morning Sunshine.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
As Jenny is here at the news table, I am present,
and we got a well you've got something we should
mention plug before we get Oh, by the way, that
opening song was the Ocean by replaced by robots. I
know I've been playing it on the show, but I'm
not sure I had opened with it before today, so
I wanted to mention that quickly because such a great song,
and they're they're starting to get some play on college
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stations across the country, and they're gotting a lot of
good press right now too for that, for that single
and everything that they do. Such a such a great band.
And we've got a packed show for you. But there's
an event happening today at one of our favorite places.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Absolutely the Mosaic Are Collective.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Today.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
You've got some last minute gifts you need to pick up.
See all that glitters display is still up. It is
open for holiday shopping today from five to seven pm.
There is a collection of gorgeous small art work perfect forgiving,
buy it right off the wall. So go check out
the mosaic Are Collective from five to seven pm today
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right here in the Queens City, Manchester and see if
you can buy some priceless, one of a kind art
for your loved one.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Very nice, very nice. So we do have a very
busy show for you today, starring in order of appearance,
we have Dots in Moon. We're gonna be talking to
Richard from Dots and Moon in just a couple of minutes.
We're going to play as New as Single and then
talk to him. On the second hour, we have down
Boys coming in. They've got a brand new single we're
gonna play for you today. They will be here with
(06:55):
us in studio. And then in the third hour, I
actually have to look at my notes. We got a
busy show. Oh yes. In the third hour we have
Jesse Kil guests from New York City we're gonna be
talking to and Audio gust which is a very interesting project.
So we've got a busy show. Chris Evans from audio guest,
not Chris Evans the actor, it's a different Chris Evans.
(07:15):
I believe that he's from Seattle, so he's gonna be
joining us to be a WhatsApp. So we got a
busy show ahead of us, So welcome everybody. I do
want to mention also quickly, and I shared this out
on social media. Our friends chasing the Devil of a
brand new single. And usually when whenever they release a
new single, we like to do the world radio premiere
right here on Matt Connorton Unleashed. But we're not doing
it for that, but I do for this one. But
(07:38):
I do suggest that you check it out. It's a really,
really good song. It's called liar. The only thing is
it's one of those things where in the chorus of
the song, and I was surprised because I don't think
there's any swears in any of their other songs, but
in the chorus of this particular song, there's a word
that has said quite a few times, and I was like,
I don't think I can make a radio edit of
this one. I don't mind making radio edits for guests
(07:59):
sometimes have to do it and whatnot, but this was
one of those cases where kind of like with that
Kenny Troon song, uh, you know, the one I'm talking about,
Jenny Don't one of my favorite which he played on
the he played a self censored He played a self
censored version of it on the show Don't mess this
thing up. But the actual edit it, yeah, the actual
(08:21):
studio track of it. Yeah, there's no way to take
that word out without just completely wrecking the chorus. And
I had the same thought when I was listening to Liar,
the new single from Chasing the Devil. So we're not
gonna play it here, you know, unless they unless they
make a radio edit and they give it to us,
because it should be on the radio. It's very very catchy,
really great track. And you know, Jay Bellow from Chasing
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the Devil is a big supporter of the show. He
might even be in the chat room. I haven't uh,
I haven't had a chance to look, but but definitely
uh check check out the track. It's on streaming platforms.
It dropped. I think it dropped at midnight and it's
so good. The song is called Liar. The band is
Chasing the Devil. Please support them. Amazing band. But I
play that here, so check it out. Not right now,
(09:03):
stay with us for now, but check it out after
the show. I think what we will do now, We're
gonna go ahead and play a song from Dots and Moon,
a great, great track called Moments in the Sun. And
then when we come back from the song, we will
have Richard from Dots and Moon on with us via WhatsApp.
Can't wait to talk with him. I love this project.
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Take a listen Moments in the Sun by Dots and Moon.
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Still five.
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So mused.
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So you know.
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Thecome Omen's son.
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Shows the sun e the Sun.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Oh I like that a lot. That is Moments in
the Sun. The project is Dots and Moon and we
have Richard from Dots and Moon on the line with
us via WhatsApp. Hello are you there?
Speaker 7 (13:46):
Yes, I'm here. Thanks for having me. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Absolutely No, I'm glad you can join us today. I
really like what you're doing. The songs they've got. I mean,
obviously they you know, they sound different, but a lot
of these have a kind of a dreamy, sort of
atmospheric kind of vibe. I really like. I really like
these a lot.
Speaker 7 (14:07):
Nice to hear.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Absolutely absolutely. And you're in Are you in upstate New
York or where where are you?
Speaker 7 (14:12):
Exactly New York north of Buffalo. Were getting the cliched
pummel of snow right now? Are you too?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (14:21):
But you probably you're in New Hampshire, right.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
We're in New Hampshire. Yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 7 (14:26):
Must get a good chunk of snow.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
We get, well, not as much as you might think.
The winters I grew up here, and the winters here
are considerably easier now overall than they were when I
was a kid. So some years we get some years
we get a lot of snow, but we don't get
we don't get pummeled too badly. Some years we get
very little, so it's not it's not too bad. Here
we've had a cold snap, but it's it's not too bad.
(14:49):
But where you are, so were you because Buffalo, if
I remember a number of years ago, had like, uh,
I know, Buffalo gets a lot of snow, but didn't
that hurt the city?
Speaker 7 (15:00):
And then south of the city, if you go north,
it'll have an inch of snow.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Oh, so it's not bad. So you're north of Buffalo, yeah,
oh Goodmerally.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
It's not too bad. Today, it's a little it's a
little rough.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
So I remember, I remember seeing on the news a
few years ago it was like like multiple feet of
snow and like it just like snowed for like five
days straight.
Speaker 7 (15:19):
So but well, ever since that blizzard of seventy seven,
one hundred years ago, it's just it's, you know, it's
just a news cliche. They always you know, because we're
right in the lake.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Okay, so right on Lake Erie.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
So it just comes right off the lake and we
get slammed.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Gotcha, gotcha. I'd like to know more. Tell us more
about dots and moon. Well, first of all, let me
ask you this right off the top. I'm sure you
answer this question all the time. But what does where
does the name come from? Dots and Moon?
Speaker 7 (15:49):
I just liked the sound of it, and it's just,
you know, brought up certain ideas in my mind. I mean,
the sun and the moon are both at dot you know,
and and the sky and it just really you know,
I just I hope it produces an image in someone's mind,
you know, of something interesting. Yeah, but it wasn't you know,
(16:14):
it wasn't the car as most people would think. You know,
it's not D A T, S U N. But I
even thought that was kind of cool, the idea of
an old dots on full moon.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Absolutely. And now the project has changed over the years, correct,
because from what I was reading, did it used to
be a female fronted collaboration and now it's a solo project?
Is that true?
Speaker 7 (16:36):
Well? Even before that, it was me and then I
had a friend of mine and it was just the
two of us and we would play guitar. When we
would play out, the two of us played guitar, and
then I would have all the synse and all that
stuff recorded on a digital recorder. And especially here Western
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New York, you know, like there were rules, you know,
you didn't have pre recorded tracks and all this stuff.
But I don't know if you're familiar with carter usm
by any chance, a real old band.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
No, I'm not familiar with them.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
All right. So they're from England and they came here
and they played and it was two guys with the
guitar on their backing tracks. And I said to my
and it sounded amazing, and I'm like, you know, I'd
rather hear a band with backing tracks. It sounds fantastic
than a band with all live members that doesn't sound good.
And it's just easy, you know. It was just easier
to put everything together and play. And then I met
somebody I was friends with and she's like, you know,
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I can sing. So I asked her to sing this
song called Glory and then he'd the warning and then
those two songs. I was like, wow, and it sounded fantastic,
and we would and we slowly had a band, a
five piece BANDA and I had a lap, I had
a laptop and say, you know, say the drummer moved,
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I could then just unmute the drum tracks that I
had made or had recorded from the drummer, and that
allowed the band to play out a lot more. I've
played everything from you know, me and a singer to
me and four other bandmates with you know, no backing tracks.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
So yeah, that must have been.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
That must have been kind of exciting, right, to have
that sort of flexibility with it where you could work
with that. I'm always fascinated by that kind of dynamic
because you know, obviously we interview a lot of musicians
on the show, and I've i myself. I'm a musician,
and I've played in a bunch of bands, but I
was never I never played in a band where you
could just where you had that kind of flexibility, you know,
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where you could play in multiple different configurations over the
course of shows and and always just make it work.
Like all the bands I ever played, and it was like,
you know, we got we got the same group of
guys who are going to have to be here at
every single show because if you remove one piece, it
all falls apart. So it must have been it must
have been cool. And to be able to use technology
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to to sort of give you that flexibility.
Speaker 7 (18:59):
Yeah, because I was a big fan of New Order,
you know, growing up, you know, I saw them live
and it just ity didn't seem like there was anything
wrong with it to me to you know, go ahead
and do that. Yeah, and and it was great too,
but the best. And then I went and I got
an electric drum kit because the frequency of the synse
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and then the symbol crashes, it was just piercing and
it was unreal. So but i'd have I think I
played with three or four drummers over the years, and
it's a long time, and they'd all be like, kind
of am not sure And then they come over and
they play that electronic drum kit and they'd be like,
this is amazing. I love this. They'd be having so
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much fun with all the songs, but they'd have to
play with a click, right, and they didn't mind that either,
they you know, So it was just a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
You know.
Speaker 7 (19:51):
It was more the enjoyment of getting together with other
people and playing. You know, we never really had the
opportunity to tour much. We played, you know, arounding cities,
but that was about it.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Do you feel like as you were doing that that
the certain stigma, because there are you know, even today,
I mean it's gotten a lot better as as people
continue to embrace technology and using technology and music but
I feel like even today, there's there's always going to
be some people who just if you don't have everything
completely live, if you've got someone on stage with something
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that is creating some sort of sound other than instruments,
you know, you've got somebody up there with a laptop
or whatever. There's there's always going to be certain people
who are judgmental of that or using backing tracks or anything.
But do you feel like over the course of your
doing that that, at least in the area where you
were out playing live, that the you kind of overcame that.
Speaker 7 (20:43):
Do you think, oh yeah, because well, and then when
we started, we you know, we'd be playing with bands
that were ten years younger because they were already embracing that, right,
you know. And some of those stuff I love now,
like a group called Aso or keep Shelley in Athens.
(21:06):
They're a singer and a DJ, so it's not even
like a musician. It's a DJ who has found samples
and put them all together and that type of thing.
But you know, I see where people are coming from
with live music. I mean, last night I was at
a Hofbra house, you know, with the Oompampa and you know,
and I'm watching them and the guy's playing the accordion
(21:27):
and the other guys singing, and like what talent. He
makes it look so easy. So you know, I get it,
you know, with all live musicians, I mean, you know,
that's that's incredible skill and dedication and keeps showing up
and practicing together, and so I get the stigma. And
I also you know, if I could have all live musicians,
(21:51):
I would, but you know, life gets in the.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Way, absolutely absolutely what you know when one you're in
a band. At somebody on the show, I wish I
could remember who said it. Somebody on the show who
had gone from being in a band to doing everything
solo like like like you have done, essentially made the
observation that being in a band with say you're in
a band with three other people, it's like being in
a relationship with three other people who are also in
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a relationship with three other people, and it's and that's challenging,
and you've got to work with everyone's schedules and varying
levels of commitment within that project, and it can be
very very difficult. I mean, do you find is it
less stressful because you've you have transitioned to doing this
as a solo project, is it? Is it overall just
less stressful doing it this way?
Speaker 7 (22:37):
Are you still there?
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (22:39):
Okay, Well, you know, as far as writing this stuff goes,
you know, I always wrote everything and then people would
learn how to play what I wrote through. For the
first album, did have a bass player, but even he
would come over and just jam with the song for
(22:59):
four minutes, and then I have to go through what
he played and cut out the you know, the snippets
that I really like the best and put them in order.
So as far as writing the stuff goes, it was
always solo. Yeah, But playing live it's just more enjoyable
to play with other people. When you play live, you know,
it's it's a lot better. But you know, I don't
(23:23):
even know if I'm gonna bother because I for a
year we had a singer and a guitarist and a drummer,
and then the drummer couldn't make it because of work
obligations and another band, and then you know, the singer
got accepted into a music program, and you know, I
just was I thought, you know, it's it's okay, it's
(23:45):
but it's a little stressful playing out Maybe I'll just
you know, do a studio thing.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Yeah. Yeah, the other thing with drummers too, Because you
mentioned drummers, it's kind of become well, almost a running joke.
But it's not even a joke. Like every every band
we have on the show, the drummer in the band
is always in like ten other bands. Yeah, and I
feel like it's I feel like it's that way everywhere.
I have a theory about that. I think it's because
(24:12):
drummers are have become so rare because you know, when
you're growing up and you first become interested in music
and you want to learn a musical instrument. If you
approach your parents and you say, I want to pick
up an instrument, but I want to learn drums, you know,
if it's that or I don't know, maybe the tuba,
there's a good chance they're going to try to talk
you out of it because they'd rather, you know, because
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nobody wants all that noise in their house, you know,
unless they're just very very supportive. So that's that's my theory,
because yeah, every yeah, every drummer I know is in
ten bands. And can you tell tell us too about
I had read something you said you were talking about
how the technology, about how it it both isolates us
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but also helps us to make personal connections.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
Wow, sometimes I forget I have little deep nuggets like that. Yeah. Well,
I mean, so, you know, writing the song on my
own it it can be really lonely.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
You know.
Speaker 7 (25:16):
I'd rather have this, you know, have someone else coming
over and and working with them and you know, having
you know, having a co writer, that would be great.
Speaker 8 (25:28):
You know.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
So that's lonely. But on the other hand, where I
went to record this album, I wish I would have
known about him sooner. I actually I did. A friend
of mine kept urging me to go to This guy's
name is Doug White, and he's got a studio called
Watchman's Studio after the comic book. He had two shoegaze bands,
one Macar's Pen and one called Tearwave and recorded a
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you know, that's like he really is Wheelhouse and he's
so easy to work with. He's really reasonable to play with.
And I can go in there with all my stems
and you know, a raw idea and work with him
for seven or eight hours and walk out with a
song and recording. I'm really happy with. Yeah, And that's
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you know, and you're bonding when you're hanging out together
talking and playing and making stuff, so you know, or
when we would have band practice on a Saturday morning,
that was like the highlight of my week, just getting
together with people I considered friends and you know, playing
music and then going out and socializing and meeting other bands.
So you know, you're isolated kind of when you're writing, right,
(26:39):
but you know when you go to record or practice
or play out, you get to socialize. So yeah, yeah,
I think that's yeah. I mean, I don't think it
could be much more than that. I guess.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Yeah, it's interesting how and I think I think the
pandemic kind of really brought this to the forefront for
a lot of people because I always say, you know,
that was a terrible experience for everybody, but it also
we have to find these silver linings where we can.
And one of the few silver linings about it was
it kind of forced people to be creative in new ways,
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even though the technology was already there. You know, you
could already send files back and forth through Dropbox or
Google Drive or whatever, and you so you could you
could already do all that collaborating with people from a distance,
and people had been doing that, but I think the
pandemic kind of forced people who maybe were averse to
doing that to give it a try, and it created
this entire new wave of collaboration amongst people who thought, well,
(27:38):
this person's on the other side of the country, how
am I ever going to collaborate with them? Oh, okay,
well we'll give this a try. Oh turns out this
works pretty well, and so I think it. You know,
that was the most isolating thing that you know, we've
been through, you know, was the pandemic, right, and yet
and yet, because of technology, it also helped people make
(27:58):
a lot of new connections in profound ways that allowed
them to create together.
Speaker 7 (28:04):
My friend's son is I don't know, twenty one, and
the majority of the bands he listens to are you know,
kids in their twenties early twenties, and the bands are
made up of seven people and none of them are
in the same city.
Speaker 9 (28:19):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (28:20):
It's you know, that's not even a big deal. That's
just like how it is, right, you know. So, yeah,
you know, that was the good part about the pandemic.
It's interesting, though, when that was finally done and we
could go back to works, I remember somebody said, oh,
we might have to wear masks again. And when I
heard that, I realized how I didn't realize during the
(28:42):
pandemic how much of a strain that was putting on me.
It wasn't until afterwards and someone saying something that we
might have to go back to, you know, some of
the ways we were like we thought there was going
to be another wave, and I was just like, oh
my god, I hated that. Yeah awful.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Yeah, there were a lot of moments like that where
it was like, oh, oh, maybe this is finally winding
down and maybe oh no, no it's not.
Speaker 7 (29:09):
Did you get it? I got it? I got I
was like four or six weeks. I can't remember, you know,
it was the first wave. Yeah, it was just it
was awful.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
I had COVID, but not until I didn't get it
until after the pandemic was kind of over, you know,
and I was I was vaxed and everything, but I
did I did test positive at least on one occasion.
I think eventually eventually I dodged it for a long
time though, but.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
You know, yeah, I wouldn't worste it on anybody.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
No, No, it's it's not well being being sick just
generally is uh, it's my my least favorite thing about winter.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Ye.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
But now, so how is how is your live situation now?
Like are you are you performing live currently or are
you going out and playing show?
Speaker 7 (29:57):
No, you know, like I said, it was a year
we and I think we might have even gotten more viewership.
But we at band practice, we would get stuff done
and then we would play something on Facebook. You know,
we would actually you know, play the second half of
band practice on Facebook and a number of views and
(30:18):
the number of people who saw it. I started thinking,
maybe this is better than thing out. But no, yeah,
right now, like I said, I don't know if I
really And that's the other problem too, like you know,
I can sing, but when I when it comes to
playing live, I don't know. I just I'm not impressed
(30:38):
with what I hear when I when I play live.
So I was, you know, I need to have to
practice these songs, you know a lot, you know, and
I mean, you know, I take voice lessons, you know,
just to keep working on my voice. I'm not a
you know, we probably can tell, but I'm not a
natural singer.
Speaker 8 (30:59):
You know.
Speaker 7 (31:00):
It's more of that kind of guy from the church
type of feel ye. So but yeah, but losing the
singer we had and she was amazing, she was great.
You know, if you want to find a singer, go
to your local alternative karaoke because you'll find a lot
of people are dying to find bands there.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Interesting.
Speaker 7 (31:21):
And yeah, and but she, you know, we hadn't played
out and she was starting a music program, and I
just don't know if I really want to search for
another band again. You know, I think I'd like to
just focus on playing music and maybe even go more
(31:42):
towards the piano. I don't know if you read that,
but there's a guy named Harold Budd. He did an
album with Cocktail Twins and then he's done at least
two or three albums with Robin Guthrie. But he's the
guy that got me into playing piano in my early twenties.
And yeah, we lost him to COVID, but he put
(32:03):
out an album with well, he put out a lot
of albums, but he put out an album with Brian
Eno and the Pearl. It's called and it's just amazing
and it's gorgeous. And for the longest time I couldn't
figure out what he was doing. And then I figured
out he pretty much just played major seventh chords every
(32:25):
record he played, And that's what Robin Guthrie does for
any of your listeners that are into music theory and yeah,
and so there's like I think one, there's not two.
I think there's at least one piano interlude on Yeah,
there's one before the last three songs on the CD
(32:45):
on the new album, and just kind of going down
more that vein. Yeah, Like you know, I don't know
if you know like Stars of the Lid or the
Cranky Label at all. It's kind of it's atmosphere ambient,
but it's not, you know, yoga ambient. It's got just
(33:07):
a little bit of a twist to it when you listen.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Okay, okay, but I'm really rambling.
Speaker 7 (33:12):
I didn't really, I'm tired.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
I Hey, No, that's okay. That's what we do here.
That's what we do. That's that's perfect. I'd much rather that.
Speaker 7 (33:21):
No.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
The worst thing is when someone comes on and they
have nothing to say, which is rarest Most musicians like
to talk about music. But every once in a while,
you know, we might have somebody who kind of clams
up and it's like uh, yeah, yeah, person, and can
you tell us you about some of the themes. I mean,
like I said, you know, the music, it's got a
(33:42):
very you know, it's got kind of a dreamy, atmospheric
sort of vibe to it. But I mean, what are
some of the themes that you like to write about?
Speaker 7 (33:52):
Well, this one, you know, before, you know, when when
I had a female singer, like I like to have,
you know, empowered lyrics, something that was strong, something like
you know, where someone was coming back from being the
underdog or something like that. Yeah, And with this one,
(34:15):
I just wanted there to be kind of like a
hopeful message, you know. And but a lot of times,
you know, and I wonder if this is true for
most you know, singers, I would like kind of add
lib lyrics and then as I sang them and looked
at them and then you know, redid them. Like you know,
(34:36):
moments in the sun. Everybody has moments in the sun.
It's just like, you know, even if things are tough,
you know, you'll have good days, you know. I mean,
it's not that complex of an idea or bring love,
Bring loves a breakup song, but it's a song about
accepting that that breakup. But you know it, don't really
(34:57):
realize it until you're done kind of improvising lyrics two
or three times. You know. That's the great thing about
having home recording studios. You know, you've got that freedom
to do that, and then you look at what you've
come up with and you're like, oh, there's just kind
of a good idea here, or have you know, come
up with a story. We're an atmosphere of just you know,
(35:20):
you know, I really liked a lot of trip hop stuff,
so just having something being kind of a little dark,
you know, but yeah, but not like in the end
of the world kind of way, but kind of like
you know, like you know, a dark movie like what's
(35:42):
that Black Mirror something like that.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Oh yeah, I haven't seen that, but I it comes
up in conversation though with people. So I people have
told me I would enjoy it.
Speaker 7 (35:52):
Yeah, you go back to I wouldn't. I'd skipped the
very very first episode, but I go back to the
British show first and check it out.
Speaker 8 (36:02):
Ye.
Speaker 7 (36:03):
So yeah, So either something that's kind of a dark twist,
a little Halloween ish, or something that's got a you know,
a hopeful message on one or the other. Yeah, generally
seems what comes out, you know, things will be okay.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
I'm also curious too about So your newest is an EP,
but why so Moments in the Sun is an EP
but Tiger, the previous release was was a full album. Correct.
Speaker 7 (36:30):
Yeah, And here's why this ended up happening. And I
hope you know this doesn't sound bad, but something got
messed up in the last three songs of Tiger, where
they're all they're named wrong. Three songs are like Moments
(36:52):
in the Sun is Winter Streets and Winter Streets is
Army of Me. So I put the EP out with
you know, an extra news song and then just to
get the right names on the songs because because I
know this is going to sound horrible. But if I
(37:13):
take Tiger down and then put it back up again, yeah,
well you lose all the streams. If you lose all
the streams, then you're starting from scratch and your music
doesn't get placed in you know, Spotify Radio or Apple
Music Suggestions and that type of thing. So you know,
(37:36):
you just it's just how the algorithm works. You know,
you're kind of like going back to zero. So that
is why it was done, was to try to get
the right names on the songs and yeah, so it's
not the best reason to put out of put out
(37:59):
on an ep no, but.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
It well, but it does, you know, it is illustrative
of of some of the pitfalls of you know, the
technology that we're working with and how it works now
with with streaming and everything. You know, it's there's a
there's a lot that can go wrong, and you know
a lot of musicians and industry people listen to the show.
So it's it's kind of a good lesson, you know,
something to be aware of. And you're right, I mean,
(38:21):
you know, practically speaking, yeah, you you know, you could,
you could take it down and then put it back
up with but then, yeah, like you said, you you lose.
You know, you don't want to lose whatever momentum you've
you've built, whatever equity you've built in that with the algorithms,
you know.
Speaker 7 (38:35):
Yeah, because you know, you know that long tail theory.
You know, it's just you know, you keep getting you know,
because you know, I'm not gonna make any money off this,
and I'm not going to be famous. The goal is
I when I was a kid, when I was like twelve,
I discovered Echo and the bunny Man and I I
(38:56):
I was able to, you know, get a CD or
an album once a month, and I, you know, no Internet,
and I thought they were the coolest band. I didn't
realize there was a whole genre called goth where there
was other stuff like them. And I got the he
An up Here album, and I remember as a kid,
my whole motivation to make music was that I just
(39:17):
want to make something that fits like a niche, you know,
in someone's record collection, you know, like you know, and
just make something. You know, anytime I get a new
follower on YouTube or someone picks up the music on
band camp, I am just thrilled that I made something
that someone liked enough to spend their time listening to.
(39:42):
You know, I'm like, oh, I'm giving, you know, paying
forward what these bands that at the time were obscure,
you know, I know from Danny Darko and everything that
you know more everybody you know knows who the Bunnymen
are now, but back then, no one you know, had
a clue. Right, So I don't know if that makes sense.
(40:03):
I feel like I'm kind of rambling, but you know
that that's the goal is do it for myself because
I love it. And then I just really hope someone
out there enjoys it.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Yeah, yeah, no very well said, yeah, absolutely, that's what
it's all about. And then so in a moment, well,
it's been wonderful speaking with you this morning.
Speaker 7 (40:25):
We'll thank you so much for having me on.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
We'll definitely have you back in the future. I do
want to And in a moment, we'll play We'll play
this track never had a Heart from Tiger, but from
the Tiger album. But where should Where's the best place
to go Richard for people to keep up with everything
that you're doing, with everything, all things Dots and Moon.
Where should people go?
Speaker 7 (40:46):
Probably between band camp and I know it's not the
most popular place, but the Dots and Moon page on
Facebook it's probably the best place to follow and keep
track of stuff coming out, so you know, singles.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
In that Okay, okay, wonderful.
Speaker 7 (41:05):
I mean, yeah, because I have a website, but it'll
just send you to those places Instagram or you know
or social media.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
Sites, gotcha, gotcha? Yeah, speaking of algorithms and all that.
Speaker 7 (41:15):
Yeah, and then band Camp because you know, I try
not to send much out, but you know, if you're
a follower on band camp, then I can send a
message out, you know, all the followers saying, oh there's
a new EP out or there's a new video out.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
Yeah, exactly, absolutely, what wonderful, wonderful. And then so we're
going to end the segment with I Never Had a
Heart from your your previous release Tiger, And this is
one of the ones that you had mentioned when you
when you email Jenny, what what a special like? What
should we know about this song?
Speaker 10 (41:46):
Why?
Speaker 4 (41:46):
Why does this one of the ones you chose?
Speaker 7 (41:48):
Well? I like because it's really upbeat, you know, yeah,
moves along. But also it's not negative like the title
would you'd think. It's actually goes you know, heaven never
had a heart like yours, And it's just someone is
just so amazing that even you know, uh, the image
(42:09):
of having like pales in comparison to someone who's just
a great person to be around.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
Yeah. No, it's a great concept. I love it. I
love it all right, So we're gonna play that in
a moment. We'll let you go. But Richard from Dots
and Moon, thank you so much.
Speaker 7 (42:23):
Like I said to you, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
Absolutely. Well, we'll have you back when when you've got
some new stuff. We'll definitely have you back on love,
love what you're doing. Keep up the great work, and uh,
good luck with whatever weather you're experiencing right in that
part of New York.
Speaker 7 (42:39):
All Right, we'll take care and thank you for having
me on. I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
You got it. We'll talk to you soon. Take care,
bye bye bye.
Speaker 7 (42:46):
All right.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
That is Richard from Dots and Moon. I do love
this project so much, and we're gonna play this. This
is from the previous release Tiger Now. This is called
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Today is a Saturday, December thirteen, twenty twenty five, and
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Speaker 5 (05:25):
Jenny shows Good morning Sunshine.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
As Jenny is here at the news table, I am present,
and we got a well you've got something we should
mention plug before we get Oh, by the way, that
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I wanted to mention that quickly because such a great song,
and they're they're starting to get some play on college
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stations across the country, and they're gotting a lot of
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Speaker 4 (06:34):
Very nice, very nice. So we do have a very
busy show for you today, starring in order of appearance,
we have Dots in Moon. We're gonna be talking to
Richard from Dots and Moon in just a couple of minutes.
We're going to play as New as Single and then
talk to him. On the second hour, we have down
Boys coming in. They've got a brand new single we're
gonna play for you today. They will be here with
(06:55):
us in studio. And then in the third hour, I
actually have to look at my notes. We got a
busy show. Oh yes. In the third hour we have
Jesse Kil guests from New York City we're gonna be
talking to and Audio gust which is a very interesting project.
So we've got a busy show. Chris Evans from audio guest,
not Chris Evans the actor, it's a different Chris Evans.
(07:15):
I believe that he's from Seattle, so he's gonna be
joining us to be a WhatsApp. So we got a
busy show ahead of us, So welcome everybody. I do
want to mention also quickly, and I shared this out
on social media. Our friends chasing the Devil of a
brand new single. And usually when whenever they release a
new single, we like to do the world radio premiere
right here on Matt Connorton Unleashed. But we're not doing
it for that, but I do for this one. But
(07:38):
I do suggest that you check it out. It's a really,
really good song. It's called liar. The only thing is
it's one of those things where in the chorus of
the song, and I was surprised because I don't think
there's any swears in any of their other songs, but
in the chorus of this particular song, there's a word
that has said quite a few times, and I was like,
I don't think I can make a radio edit of
this one. I don't mind making radio edits for guests
(07:59):
sometimes have to do it and whatnot, but this was
one of those cases where kind of like with that
Kenny Troon song, uh, you know, the one I'm talking about,
Jenny Don't one of my favorite which he played on
the he played a self censored He played a self
censored version of it on the show Don't mess this
thing up. But the actual edit it, yeah, the actual
(08:21):
studio track of it. Yeah, there's no way to take
that word out without just completely wrecking the chorus. And
I had the same thought when I was listening to Liar,
the new single from Chasing the Devil. So we're not
gonna play it here, you know, unless they unless they
make a radio edit and they give it to us,
because it should be on the radio. It's very very catchy,
really great track. And you know, Jay Bellow from Chasing
(08:41):
the Devil is a big supporter of the show. He
might even be in the chat room. I haven't uh,
I haven't had a chance to look, but but definitely
uh check check out the track. It's on streaming platforms.
It dropped. I think it dropped at midnight and it's
so good. The song is called Liar. The band is
Chasing the Devil. Please support them. Amazing band. But I
play that here, so check it out. Not right now,
(09:03):
stay with us for now, but check it out after
the show. I think what we will do now, We're
gonna go ahead and play a song from Dots and Moon,
a great, great track called Moments in the Sun. And
then when we come back from the song, we will
have Richard from Dots and Moon on with us via WhatsApp.
Can't wait to talk with him. I love this project.
(09:23):
Take a listen Moments in the Sun by Dots and Moon.
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Still five.
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D side.
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So mused.
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So you know.
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Was the man child a friend.
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Sis she.
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Shows the sun e the Sun.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Oh I like that a lot. That is Moments in
the Sun. The project is Dots and Moon and we
have Richard from Dots and Moon on the line with
us via WhatsApp. Hello are you there?
Speaker 7 (13:46):
Yes, I'm here. Thanks for having me. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Absolutely No, I'm glad you can join us today. I
really like what you're doing. The songs they've got. I mean,
obviously they you know, they sound different, but a lot
of these have a kind of a dreamy, sort of
atmospheric kind of vibe. I really like. I really like
these a lot.
Speaker 7 (14:07):
Nice to hear.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Absolutely absolutely. And you're in Are you in upstate New
York or where where are you?
Speaker 7 (14:12):
Exactly New York north of Buffalo. Were getting the cliched
pummel of snow right now? Are you too?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (14:21):
But you probably you're in New Hampshire, right.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
We're in New Hampshire. Yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 7 (14:26):
Must get a good chunk of snow.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
We get, well, not as much as you might think.
The winters I grew up here, and the winters here
are considerably easier now overall than they were when I
was a kid. So some years we get some years
we get a lot of snow, but we don't get
we don't get pummeled too badly. Some years we get
very little, so it's not it's not too bad. Here
we've had a cold snap, but it's it's not too bad.
(14:49):
But where you are, so were you because Buffalo, if
I remember a number of years ago, had like, uh,
I know, Buffalo gets a lot of snow, but didn't
that hurt the city?
Speaker 7 (15:00):
And then south of the city, if you go north,
it'll have an inch of snow.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Oh, so it's not bad. So you're north of Buffalo, yeah,
oh Goodmerally.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
It's not too bad. Today, it's a little it's a
little rough.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
So I remember, I remember seeing on the news a
few years ago it was like like multiple feet of
snow and like it just like snowed for like five
days straight.
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So but well, ever since that blizzard of seventy seven,
one hundred years ago, it's just it's, you know, it's
just a news cliche. They always you know, because we're
right in the lake.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Okay, so right on Lake Erie.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
So it just comes right off the lake and we
get slammed.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Gotcha, gotcha. I'd like to know more. Tell us more
about dots and moon. Well, first of all, let me
ask you this right off the top. I'm sure you
answer this question all the time. But what does where
does the name come from? Dots and Moon?
Speaker 7 (15:49):
I just liked the sound of it, and it's just,
you know, brought up certain ideas in my mind. I mean,
the sun and the moon are both at dot you know,
and and the sky and it just really you know,
I just I hope it produces an image in someone's mind,
you know, of something interesting. Yeah, but it wasn't you know,
(16:14):
it wasn't the car as most people would think. You know,
it's not D A T, S U N. But I
even thought that was kind of cool, the idea of
an old dots on full moon.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Absolutely. And now the project has changed over the years, correct,
because from what I was reading, did it used to
be a female fronted collaboration and now it's a solo project?
Is that true?
Speaker 7 (16:36):
Well? Even before that, it was me and then I
had a friend of mine and it was just the
two of us and we would play guitar. When we
would play out, the two of us played guitar, and
then I would have all the synse and all that
stuff recorded on a digital recorder. And especially here Western
(16:58):
New York, you know, like there were rules, you know,
you didn't have pre recorded tracks and all this stuff.
But I don't know if you're familiar with carter usm
by any chance, a real old band.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
No, I'm not familiar with them.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
All right. So they're from England and they came here
and they played and it was two guys with the
guitar on their backing tracks. And I said to my
and it sounded amazing, and I'm like, you know, I'd
rather hear a band with backing tracks. It sounds fantastic
than a band with all live members that doesn't sound good.
And it's just easy, you know. It was just easier
to put everything together and play. And then I met
somebody I was friends with and she's like, you know,
(17:32):
I can sing. So I asked her to sing this
song called Glory and then he'd the warning and then
those two songs. I was like, wow, and it sounded fantastic,
and we would and we slowly had a band, a
five piece BANDA and I had a lap, I had
a laptop and say, you know, say the drummer moved,
(17:54):
I could then just unmute the drum tracks that I
had made or had recorded from the drummer, and that
allowed the band to play out a lot more. I've
played everything from you know, me and a singer to
me and four other bandmates with you know, no backing tracks.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
So yeah, that must have been.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
That must have been kind of exciting, right, to have
that sort of flexibility with it where you could work
with that. I'm always fascinated by that kind of dynamic
because you know, obviously we interview a lot of musicians
on the show, and I've i myself. I'm a musician,
and I've played in a bunch of bands, but I
was never I never played in a band where you
could just where you had that kind of flexibility, you know,
(18:35):
where you could play in multiple different configurations over the
course of shows and and always just make it work.
Like all the bands I ever played, and it was like,
you know, we got we got the same group of
guys who are going to have to be here at
every single show because if you remove one piece, it
all falls apart. So it must have been it must
have been cool. And to be able to use technology
(18:56):
to to sort of give you that flexibility.
Speaker 7 (18:59):
Yeah, because I was a big fan of New Order,
you know, growing up, you know, I saw them live
and it just ity didn't seem like there was anything
wrong with it to me to you know, go ahead
and do that. Yeah, and and it was great too,
but the best. And then I went and I got
an electric drum kit because the frequency of the synse
(19:21):
and then the symbol crashes, it was just piercing and
it was unreal. So but i'd have I think I
played with three or four drummers over the years, and
it's a long time, and they'd all be like, kind
of am not sure And then they come over and
they play that electronic drum kit and they'd be like,
this is amazing. I love this. They'd be having so
(19:43):
much fun with all the songs, but they'd have to
play with a click, right, and they didn't mind that either,
they you know, So it was just a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
You know.
Speaker 7 (19:51):
It was more the enjoyment of getting together with other
people and playing. You know, we never really had the
opportunity to tour much. We played, you know, arounding cities,
but that was about it.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Do you feel like as you were doing that that
the certain stigma, because there are you know, even today,
I mean it's gotten a lot better as as people
continue to embrace technology and using technology and music but
I feel like even today, there's there's always going to
be some people who just if you don't have everything
completely live, if you've got someone on stage with something
(20:23):
that is creating some sort of sound other than instruments,
you know, you've got somebody up there with a laptop
or whatever. There's there's always going to be certain people
who are judgmental of that or using backing tracks or anything.
But do you feel like over the course of your
doing that that, at least in the area where you
were out playing live, that the you kind of overcame that.
Speaker 7 (20:43):
Do you think, oh yeah, because well, and then when
we started, we you know, we'd be playing with bands
that were ten years younger because they were already embracing that, right,
you know. And some of those stuff I love now,
like a group called Aso or keep Shelley in Athens.
(21:06):
They're a singer and a DJ, so it's not even
like a musician. It's a DJ who has found samples
and put them all together and that type of thing.
But you know, I see where people are coming from
with live music. I mean, last night I was at
a Hofbra house, you know, with the Oompampa and you know,
and I'm watching them and the guy's playing the accordion
(21:27):
and the other guys singing, and like what talent. He
makes it look so easy. So you know, I get it,
you know, with all live musicians, I mean, you know,
that's that's incredible skill and dedication and keeps showing up
and practicing together, and so I get the stigma. And
I also you know, if I could have all live musicians,
(21:51):
I would, but you know, life gets in the.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Way, absolutely absolutely what you know when one you're in
a band. At somebody on the show, I wish I
could remember who said it. Somebody on the show who
had gone from being in a band to doing everything
solo like like like you have done, essentially made the
observation that being in a band with say you're in
a band with three other people, it's like being in
a relationship with three other people who are also in
(22:13):
a relationship with three other people, and it's and that's challenging,
and you've got to work with everyone's schedules and varying
levels of commitment within that project, and it can be
very very difficult. I mean, do you find is it
less stressful because you've you have transitioned to doing this
as a solo project, is it? Is it overall just
less stressful doing it this way?
Speaker 7 (22:37):
Are you still there?
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (22:39):
Okay, Well, you know, as far as writing this stuff goes,
you know, I always wrote everything and then people would
learn how to play what I wrote through. For the
first album, did have a bass player, but even he
would come over and just jam with the song for
(22:59):
four minutes, and then I have to go through what
he played and cut out the you know, the snippets
that I really like the best and put them in order.
So as far as writing the stuff goes, it was
always solo. Yeah, But playing live it's just more enjoyable
to play with other people. When you play live, you know,
it's it's a lot better. But you know, I don't
(23:23):
even know if I'm gonna bother because I for a
year we had a singer and a guitarist and a drummer,
and then the drummer couldn't make it because of work
obligations and another band, and then you know, the singer
got accepted into a music program, and you know, I
just was I thought, you know, it's it's okay, it's
(23:45):
but it's a little stressful playing out Maybe I'll just
you know, do a studio thing.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Yeah. Yeah, the other thing with drummers too, Because you
mentioned drummers, it's kind of become well, almost a running joke.
But it's not even a joke. Like every every band
we have on the show, the drummer in the band
is always in like ten other bands. Yeah, and I
feel like it's I feel like it's that way everywhere.
I have a theory about that. I think it's because
(24:12):
drummers are have become so rare because you know, when
you're growing up and you first become interested in music
and you want to learn a musical instrument. If you
approach your parents and you say, I want to pick
up an instrument, but I want to learn drums, you know,
if it's that or I don't know, maybe the tuba,
there's a good chance they're going to try to talk
you out of it because they'd rather, you know, because
(24:32):
nobody wants all that noise in their house, you know,
unless they're just very very supportive. So that's that's my theory,
because yeah, every yeah, every drummer I know is in
ten bands. And can you tell tell us too about
I had read something you said you were talking about
how the technology, about how it it both isolates us
(24:53):
but also helps us to make personal connections.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
Wow, sometimes I forget I have little deep nuggets like that. Yeah. Well,
I mean, so, you know, writing the song on my
own it it can be really lonely.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
You know.
Speaker 7 (25:16):
I'd rather have this, you know, have someone else coming
over and and working with them and you know, having
you know, having a co writer, that would be great.
Speaker 8 (25:28):
You know.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
So that's lonely. But on the other hand, where I
went to record this album, I wish I would have
known about him sooner. I actually I did. A friend
of mine kept urging me to go to This guy's
name is Doug White, and he's got a studio called
Watchman's Studio after the comic book. He had two shoegaze bands,
one Macar's Pen and one called Tearwave and recorded a
(25:55):
you know, that's like he really is Wheelhouse and he's
so easy to work with. He's really reasonable to play with.
And I can go in there with all my stems
and you know, a raw idea and work with him
for seven or eight hours and walk out with a
song and recording. I'm really happy with. Yeah, And that's
(26:15):
you know, and you're bonding when you're hanging out together
talking and playing and making stuff, so you know, or
when we would have band practice on a Saturday morning,
that was like the highlight of my week, just getting
together with people I considered friends and you know, playing
music and then going out and socializing and meeting other bands.
So you know, you're isolated kind of when you're writing, right,
(26:39):
but you know when you go to record or practice
or play out, you get to socialize. So yeah, yeah,
I think that's yeah. I mean, I don't think it
could be much more than that. I guess.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Yeah, it's interesting how and I think I think the
pandemic kind of really brought this to the forefront for
a lot of people because I always say, you know,
that was a terrible experience for everybody, but it also
we have to find these silver linings where we can.
And one of the few silver linings about it was
it kind of forced people to be creative in new ways,
(27:12):
even though the technology was already there. You know, you
could already send files back and forth through Dropbox or
Google Drive or whatever, and you so you could you
could already do all that collaborating with people from a distance,
and people had been doing that, but I think the
pandemic kind of forced people who maybe were averse to
doing that to give it a try, and it created
this entire new wave of collaboration amongst people who thought, well,
(27:38):
this person's on the other side of the country, how
am I ever going to collaborate with them? Oh, okay,
well we'll give this a try. Oh turns out this
works pretty well, and so I think it. You know,
that was the most isolating thing that you know, we've
been through, you know, was the pandemic, right, and yet
and yet, because of technology, it also helped people make
(27:58):
a lot of new connections in profound ways that allowed
them to create together.
Speaker 7 (28:04):
My friend's son is I don't know, twenty one, and
the majority of the bands he listens to are you know,
kids in their twenties early twenties, and the bands are
made up of seven people and none of them are
in the same city.
Speaker 9 (28:19):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (28:20):
It's you know, that's not even a big deal. That's
just like how it is, right, you know. So, yeah,
you know, that was the good part about the pandemic.
It's interesting, though, when that was finally done and we
could go back to works, I remember somebody said, oh,
we might have to wear masks again. And when I
heard that, I realized how I didn't realize during the
(28:42):
pandemic how much of a strain that was putting on me.
It wasn't until afterwards and someone saying something that we
might have to go back to, you know, some of
the ways we were like we thought there was going
to be another wave, and I was just like, oh
my god, I hated that. Yeah awful.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Yeah, there were a lot of moments like that where
it was like, oh, oh, maybe this is finally winding
down and maybe oh no, no it's not.
Speaker 7 (29:09):
Did you get it? I got it? I got I
was like four or six weeks. I can't remember, you know,
it was the first wave. Yeah, it was just it
was awful.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
I had COVID, but not until I didn't get it
until after the pandemic was kind of over, you know,
and I was I was vaxed and everything, but I
did I did test positive at least on one occasion.
I think eventually eventually I dodged it for a long
time though, but.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
You know, yeah, I wouldn't worste it on anybody.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
No, No, it's it's not well being being sick just
generally is uh, it's my my least favorite thing about winter.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Ye.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
But now, so how is how is your live situation now?
Like are you are you performing live currently or are
you going out and playing show?
Speaker 7 (29:57):
No, you know, like I said, it was a year
we and I think we might have even gotten more viewership.
But we at band practice, we would get stuff done
and then we would play something on Facebook. You know,
we would actually you know, play the second half of
band practice on Facebook and a number of views and
(30:18):
the number of people who saw it. I started thinking,
maybe this is better than thing out. But no, yeah,
right now, like I said, I don't know if I
really And that's the other problem too, like you know,
I can sing, but when I when it comes to
playing live, I don't know. I just I'm not impressed
(30:38):
with what I hear when I when I play live.
So I was, you know, I need to have to
practice these songs, you know a lot, you know, and
I mean, you know, I take voice lessons, you know,
just to keep working on my voice. I'm not a
you know, we probably can tell, but I'm not a
natural singer.
Speaker 8 (30:59):
You know.
Speaker 7 (31:00):
It's more of that kind of guy from the church
type of feel ye. So but yeah, but losing the
singer we had and she was amazing, she was great.
You know, if you want to find a singer, go
to your local alternative karaoke because you'll find a lot
of people are dying to find bands there.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Interesting.
Speaker 7 (31:21):
And yeah, and but she, you know, we hadn't played
out and she was starting a music program, and I
just don't know if I really want to search for
another band again. You know, I think I'd like to
just focus on playing music and maybe even go more
(31:42):
towards the piano. I don't know if you read that,
but there's a guy named Harold Budd. He did an
album with Cocktail Twins and then he's done at least
two or three albums with Robin Guthrie. But he's the
guy that got me into playing piano in my early twenties.
And yeah, we lost him to COVID, but he put
(32:03):
out an album with well, he put out a lot
of albums, but he put out an album with Brian
Eno and the Pearl. It's called and it's just amazing
and it's gorgeous. And for the longest time I couldn't
figure out what he was doing. And then I figured
out he pretty much just played major seventh chords every
(32:25):
record he played, And that's what Robin Guthrie does for
any of your listeners that are into music theory and yeah,
and so there's like I think one, there's not two.
I think there's at least one piano interlude on Yeah,
there's one before the last three songs on the CD
(32:45):
on the new album, and just kind of going down
more that vein. Yeah, Like you know, I don't know
if you know like Stars of the Lid or the
Cranky Label at all. It's kind of it's atmosphere ambient,
but it's not, you know, yoga ambient. It's got just
(33:07):
a little bit of a twist to it when you listen.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Okay, okay, but I'm really rambling.
Speaker 7 (33:12):
I didn't really, I'm tired.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
I Hey, No, that's okay. That's what we do here.
That's what we do. That's that's perfect. I'd much rather that.
Speaker 7 (33:21):
No.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
The worst thing is when someone comes on and they
have nothing to say, which is rarest Most musicians like
to talk about music. But every once in a while,
you know, we might have somebody who kind of clams
up and it's like uh, yeah, yeah, person, and can
you tell us you about some of the themes. I mean,
like I said, you know, the music, it's got a
(33:42):
very you know, it's got kind of a dreamy, atmospheric
sort of vibe to it. But I mean, what are
some of the themes that you like to write about?
Speaker 7 (33:52):
Well, this one, you know, before, you know, when when
I had a female singer, like I like to have,
you know, empowered lyrics, something that was strong, something like
you know, where someone was coming back from being the
underdog or something like that. Yeah, And with this one,
(34:15):
I just wanted there to be kind of like a
hopeful message, you know. And but a lot of times,
you know, and I wonder if this is true for
most you know, singers, I would like kind of add
lib lyrics and then as I sang them and looked
at them and then you know, redid them. Like you know,
(34:36):
moments in the sun. Everybody has moments in the sun.
It's just like, you know, even if things are tough,
you know, you'll have good days, you know. I mean,
it's not that complex of an idea or bring love,
Bring loves a breakup song, but it's a song about
accepting that that breakup. But you know it, don't really
(34:57):
realize it until you're done kind of improvising lyrics two
or three times. You know. That's the great thing about
having home recording studios. You know, you've got that freedom
to do that, and then you look at what you've
come up with and you're like, oh, there's just kind
of a good idea here, or have you know, come
up with a story. We're an atmosphere of just you know,
(35:20):
you know, I really liked a lot of trip hop stuff,
so just having something being kind of a little dark,
you know, but yeah, but not like in the end
of the world kind of way, but kind of like
you know, like you know, a dark movie like what's
(35:42):
that Black Mirror something like that.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Oh yeah, I haven't seen that, but I it comes
up in conversation though with people. So I people have
told me I would enjoy it.
Speaker 7 (35:52):
Yeah, you go back to I wouldn't. I'd skipped the
very very first episode, but I go back to the
British show first and check it out.
Speaker 8 (36:02):
Ye.
Speaker 7 (36:03):
So yeah, So either something that's kind of a dark twist,
a little Halloween ish, or something that's got a you know,
a hopeful message on one or the other. Yeah, generally
seems what comes out, you know, things will be okay.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
I'm also curious too about So your newest is an EP,
but why so Moments in the Sun is an EP
but Tiger, the previous release was was a full album. Correct.
Speaker 7 (36:30):
Yeah, And here's why this ended up happening. And I
hope you know this doesn't sound bad, but something got
messed up in the last three songs of Tiger, where
they're all they're named wrong. Three songs are like Moments
(36:52):
in the Sun is Winter Streets and Winter Streets is
Army of Me. So I put the EP out with
you know, an extra news song and then just to
get the right names on the songs because because I
know this is going to sound horrible. But if I
(37:13):
take Tiger down and then put it back up again, yeah,
well you lose all the streams. If you lose all
the streams, then you're starting from scratch and your music
doesn't get placed in you know, Spotify Radio or Apple
Music Suggestions and that type of thing. So you know,
(37:36):
you just it's just how the algorithm works. You know,
you're kind of like going back to zero. So that
is why it was done, was to try to get
the right names on the songs and yeah, so it's
not the best reason to put out of put out
(37:59):
on an ep no, but.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
It well, but it does, you know, it is illustrative
of of some of the pitfalls of you know, the
technology that we're working with and how it works now
with with streaming and everything. You know, it's there's a
there's a lot that can go wrong, and you know
a lot of musicians and industry people listen to the show.
So it's it's kind of a good lesson, you know,
something to be aware of. And you're right, I mean,
(38:21):
you know, practically speaking, yeah, you you know, you could,
you could take it down and then put it back
up with but then, yeah, like you said, you you lose.
You know, you don't want to lose whatever momentum you've
you've built, whatever equity you've built in that with the algorithms,
you know.
Speaker 7 (38:35):
Yeah, because you know, you know that long tail theory.
You know, it's just you know, you keep getting you know,
because you know, I'm not gonna make any money off this,
and I'm not going to be famous. The goal is
I when I was a kid, when I was like twelve,
I discovered Echo and the bunny Man and I I
(38:56):
I was able to, you know, get a CD or
an album once a month, and I, you know, no Internet,
and I thought they were the coolest band. I didn't
realize there was a whole genre called goth where there
was other stuff like them. And I got the he
An up Here album, and I remember as a kid,
my whole motivation to make music was that I just
(39:17):
want to make something that fits like a niche, you know,
in someone's record collection, you know, like you know, and
just make something. You know, anytime I get a new
follower on YouTube or someone picks up the music on
band camp, I am just thrilled that I made something
that someone liked enough to spend their time listening to.
(39:42):
You know, I'm like, oh, I'm giving, you know, paying
forward what these bands that at the time were obscure,
you know, I know from Danny Darko and everything that
you know more everybody you know knows who the Bunnymen
are now, but back then, no one you know, had
a clue. Right, So I don't know if that makes sense.
(40:03):
I feel like I'm kind of rambling, but you know
that that's the goal is do it for myself because
I love it. And then I just really hope someone
out there enjoys it.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Yeah, yeah, no very well said, yeah, absolutely, that's what
it's all about. And then so in a moment, well,
it's been wonderful speaking with you this morning.
Speaker 7 (40:25):
We'll thank you so much for having me on.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
We'll definitely have you back in the future. I do
want to And in a moment, we'll play We'll play
this track never had a Heart from Tiger, but from
the Tiger album. But where should Where's the best place
to go Richard for people to keep up with everything
that you're doing, with everything, all things Dots and Moon.
Where should people go?
Speaker 7 (40:46):
Probably between band camp and I know it's not the
most popular place, but the Dots and Moon page on
Facebook it's probably the best place to follow and keep
track of stuff coming out, so you know, singles.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
In that Okay, okay, wonderful.
Speaker 7 (41:05):
I mean, yeah, because I have a website, but it'll
just send you to those places Instagram or you know
or social media.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
Sites, gotcha, gotcha? Yeah, speaking of algorithms and all that.
Speaker 7 (41:15):
Yeah, and then band Camp because you know, I try
not to send much out, but you know, if you're
a follower on band camp, then I can send a
message out, you know, all the followers saying, oh there's
a new EP out or there's a new video out.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
Yeah, exactly, absolutely, what wonderful, wonderful. And then so we're
going to end the segment with I Never Had a
Heart from your your previous release Tiger, And this is
one of the ones that you had mentioned when you
when you email Jenny, what what a special like? What
should we know about this song?
Speaker 10 (41:46):
Why?
Speaker 4 (41:46):
Why does this one of the ones you chose?
Speaker 7 (41:48):
Well? I like because it's really upbeat, you know, yeah,
moves along. But also it's not negative like the title
would you'd think. It's actually goes you know, heaven never
had a heart like yours, And it's just someone is
just so amazing that even you know, uh, the image
(42:09):
of having like pales in comparison to someone who's just
a great person to be around.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
Yeah. No, it's a great concept. I love it. I
love it all right, So we're gonna play that in
a moment. We'll let you go. But Richard from Dots
and Moon, thank you so much.
Speaker 7 (42:23):
Like I said to you, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
Absolutely. Well, we'll have you back when when you've got
some new stuff. We'll definitely have you back on love,
love what you're doing. Keep up the great work, and uh,
good luck with whatever weather you're experiencing right in that
part of New York.
Speaker 7 (42:39):
All Right, we'll take care and thank you for having
me on. I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
You got it. We'll talk to you soon. Take care,
bye bye bye.
Speaker 7 (42:46):
All right.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
That is Richard from Dots and Moon. I do love
this project so much, and we're gonna play this. This
is from the previous release Tiger Now. This is called
never had a Heart. I never felt hat like yours.
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SI stuff.
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Because I haven't never felt hat like yours.
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throats love that you never know, he said, La bells
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Side and supicideh.
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Grids.
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I seeking every.
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Everything that especially.
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Down to have black gulls become.
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Felt like girls.
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That's want to know.
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What you start Jos friends never felt about like yours.
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It's time to.
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Something wanting.
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