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Good morning, everybody, welcome, here we go. It is that
time again. Matt Connorton Unleashed and we are live from
the studios of WMNH ninety five point three FM in
glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. Of course, you can stream the
show from anywhere. Go to Matt connorton dot com slash
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contact and fos, show archives, et cetera, et cetera. Today
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is a Saturday, December twenty seven, twenty twenty five. Yes,
it is Saturday. You know, I had had no less
than four conversations yesterday with people who are having trouble,
myself included, by the way, we're having trouble remembering what
day it was because it seems like every year between
Christmas and New Year's Day we get into this weird
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like almost like a time distortion thing where everything feels
kind of weird in terms of what day is it.
And you know, Jenny mentioned yesterday she kept thinking it
was Saturday. You know, it just felt like a Saturday.
So it's but it is Saturday now, December twenty seventh.
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So welcome everybody. Of course, we are here live, even
though if you are local in Manchester, New Hampshire, we've
got a little bit of a winter wonderland going on
out there. I did not expect to wake up to snow.
Not not much, but you know, enough to make it
make the roads a little bit slippery. So if you
are traveling this morning, please be careful. And but we
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didn't get it nearly as bad as I think. I
think there's some places that are getting slammed. This is
supposed to be a pretty tough storm system that's affecting
a large swath of the country. But you know, New Hampshire,
we're kind of lucky in that we're in this. People
who don't live here assume that New Hampshire is like
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we have these terrible winters. They're really not that bad.
I grew up here and when I was a kid,
I can you know, I don't mean to do this,
you know, when I was a kid, No, but I
do recall back in my day. No, but I do
remember when I was growing up that the winters here
were a lot more challenging than they are now. They
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were more consistently I mean, it's been cold, this winter
has been cold, But when I was a kid, it
seems like they were much more consistently cold and a
hell of a lot more snow. So we're kind of
lucky here. We don't get really extreme winters anymore. Some
some winters are very mild. We had a winter here
about I think eight or nine years ago where winter
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just didn't even show up. I mean, it was amazing. So,
you know, we're kind of fortunate here. So this this
terrible storm system that's affecting places close to New Hampshire,
as close as Massachusetts. Here, we're kind of getting uh,
we're kind of getting off easy, and we usually do,
at least where we are here in Manchester. I mean
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we're in kind of like this little protected area that
you know, we get storm. I mean, we get you know,
we'll get a blizzard you know, that might drop a
foot of snow once in a while. I don't think
last year we did. I mean we had we had storms,
but I don't think we ever had anything that was
that actually was an entire foot of snow that I recall.
I don't think we really get storms quite that big
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anymore in this area, you know. So, I mean, I'm
concerned about climate change, but you know, long term, but
short term it does have some benefits, I guess the
milder winters. But anyway, so if you are traveling this morning,
please be careful because we woke up to more than
I was expecting anyway, but we go forth. So we
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do have some great guests for you today. Coming up
in just a few minutes at nine to fifteen in
the Eastern time zone, we will have the band Box
of Trash and other great band from the UK. Actually,
all our guests this morning, they're all UK based bands.
I don't have anybody coming in the studio. I am here,
I'm flying solo. Jenny's at home, she's resting. She's been
very busy. It's been a very busy time. Of course,
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Illaday is very busy time for everyone. But so we've
got Box of Trash, who are going to be joining
us via WhatsApp in just a few minutes. And then
in the second hour we have the Marches, another great
band from the UK, and then in the third hour
the Far North. The Far North. Actually it sounds like
the name of a band. It's actually just one guy.
His name's Lee Wilding, but he calls this project the
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Far North. And by the way, all three of these
artists are artists who they had their first, their very
first airplay here on American radio, right here on this
program on this station WMNH we did the world radio
premieres for all these artists who are now great UK
artists who are now making inroads into the US radio market.
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So in fact, that track that we open with, Something
in the Water, that's another great band from over there
across the pond, as they say, Rivia, love them, two
great songs that we often play on the show, piece
of You and Something in the Water, which is their
even newer single it just came out in November. Love
that song. I love both those songs so much, such
a great we've had them on the show. Great to
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talk to, great band. But I think what we're gonna
do right now, because we are going to be speaking
with the guys from the Lads as they say, from
the band box of Trash in just a few minutes,
so I think we should go ahead and hit this.
This is their newest single, Nightmare, which is really good,
and then we're going to talk to these guys and
then we'll play another song of theirs at the end.
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We'll probably we'll let them pick what we play to
close out the segment. I think, but this is a
great track. We played this for the first time on
the show not long ago, and then at the end
of this, we'll have those guys on with us via WhatsApp.
But check it out. This is Nightmare and the band
is Box of Trash.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
Hello, wish me how.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
You playing there?
Speaker 5 (10:11):
It's my bye, not only time. Uh leaving.
Speaker 8 (10:19):
That before I say it's meaning it.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Said jass.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
Picky Jazz reassesses now as.
Speaker 9 (10:31):
Something checks me awaken out.
Speaker 8 (10:34):
And rouse me by.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
If you love.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Such a n there, I just swam to the best.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
She said.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
She said me, Yeah, what you wish for.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
The games, saying.
Speaker 8 (10:58):
That I w when I told you Wow.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
So all right now.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I still down web the crown of the lonely crowd.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Sething chase me.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Away, you go evers me from the book.
Speaker 8 (11:22):
I never you I was such a din there.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
I just swamp you to care.
Speaker 10 (11:35):
I don't need it anymore.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
That's how think you're coming going.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Nothing needs to setting. So my body turning on, I
just start.
Speaker 8 (11:44):
I let you know.
Speaker 10 (12:26):
She said, she said, she said, she said, she said,
she said, she said, she.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Said, she said no, No, I definitely allowed such a rider.
Speaker 11 (12:47):
Swam to ja.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I don't hear any walk.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
That's something comor though I d just said it so
for my body to not.
Speaker 8 (12:59):
Just st you know.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
I I love it. The track is called Nightmare. The
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band is Box of Trash. And let's see we've connected
via WhatsApp. Let's see if we can hear these guys. Hello, guys,
are you there?
Speaker 8 (13:46):
It's just me. It's how's it going? Hey good?
Speaker 4 (13:49):
How are you doing? How you how do you say?
Speaker 8 (13:50):
Your name?
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Is it bas or baz Baz? How you doing? Welcome
to the show. I'm excited to talk to you. I
love that song so much. Nightmare. That is catchy, it's infectious,
it gets uh, you know, I wake up with it
in my brain in the morning, really really good. So
I'm very glad you're joining us today. Did did you
write that? Are you responsible for that one?
Speaker 8 (14:11):
That one?
Speaker 4 (14:12):
I that's really really good, really good.
Speaker 12 (14:16):
It's about it's a kind of personal, semi personal, and
you know, just kind of waking up and feeling like
kid off abunding on folk, but then realizing you're really
not and it's just jay, you know what.
Speaker 8 (14:30):
They can adopt feelings you have on a miserable day.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah. I was reading a quote from
you about that. Actually, I just found this. It says
this song is one of the most raw Box of Trash,
I've wrote.
Speaker 8 (14:42):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
The song is an introspective journey through self doubt, emotional struggle,
and a yearning for care and understanding, set against a
backdrop of personal chaos and fleeting moments of clarity.
Speaker 8 (14:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
So that's that's a lot. Yeah yeah, uh yeah, go ahead,
are you telling that?
Speaker 8 (15:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Oh, it sounded like you're sounded like you were starting
to say something. I didn't want to interrupt. No, no,
it's all good. Yeah, we might have a there might
be a slide delay, as there often is with these
trans continental calls, but uh no, uh, I I love
and I did listen to by the way, let's see,
I did listen to the entire album, really really good.
Speaker 8 (15:21):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Now, I'm curious, so where does the name We'll start
with one of the most obvious questions. I'm sure you
get this all the time, but where does the name
Box of Trash come from?
Speaker 8 (15:29):
Well?
Speaker 12 (15:30):
I think it's an interesting story, but it might not
come across interesting. But like a collect vinyl and I'm
into like sixties garbage rock. They do know that kind
of early sixties stuff. It's kind of gritty, like.
Speaker 8 (15:43):
Justgies and stuff.
Speaker 12 (15:45):
Yeah, and I got a compilation vinyl thing and it
was called the Trash Box, And I had a poster
up in a studio and it's say.
Speaker 8 (15:54):
I was like, why don't we just call ourselves the
Box of Trash? Yeah that way. Expectations are low.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
No, it's a great name. It's it's one that it's
one you remember. Yeah, yeah, I like it, you know,
but it also kind of I think it fits in
terms of you know, your sound, it's it's it's raw.
You know, you mentioned you know you really like garage
rock or I think I even saw did I see
the term trash rock referring to you guys somewhere online?
So I don't and I'd never heard that term before,
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trash rock. I don't know if that's something you say
over there, but but I but I really like see personally,
I love that kind of production. I think a lot
of I think a lot of the music that's produced
and I don't even want to say a lot of
the music that's produced today, because I think it's been
this way for a number of decades, probably starting in
the eighties. But I think a lot of music is
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a little bit slicker and a little bit smoother than
it needs to be particularly with rock music where you know,
you really want to hear those crunchy guitars and everything.
But the yeah, but the production on what you guys
have done really is it's it's raw. You know, it
still sounds professional and it's it sounds amazing, but there
is kind of a raw no iss to it, like
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is that is that something that's important to you? Do
you intentionally try to get that sound?
Speaker 8 (17:15):
And we don't intentionally try and do it, but.
Speaker 12 (17:19):
It just kind of it's worked our way into It's
the kind of all four of us are that type
of person, you know what I mean? Yeah, But we
recorded the album actually an Illinois a place called.
Speaker 8 (17:32):
Elgin Oh no kidding? Ah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 12 (17:37):
The album is called it's named after a hotel room
and sweet oh wow, yeah, I forget the name it
now Kindlewood Speech, yeah, kandle with two thirty. Yeah, it
was a room number and kindle Wood Sweech was the
hotel name.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
No kidding? So you actually so you came to the
States and recorded this in Elgin, Illinois?
Speaker 8 (18:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (18:01):
Yeah, yeah, that's why I come over. I was I
was playing bass for a band down in England. Obviously
I'm from Scotland and I was went down the band
the Mets, and but they had a guy coming over
from Illinois, Juan vella Is from Third Fire Records. He
was recording them and I didn't have anywhere to stay,
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and the end up letting me, let's sleep on his couch. Yeah,
So I went down straight back and we went to
the pub after and he's.
Speaker 8 (18:31):
Like, do you write songs?
Speaker 12 (18:32):
I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, and I let him
here a demo I had Cold Space Man, and he's like,
I love it. You need to send me that when
you get home. And so I sent him over and
he's like, I want his own in Chicago. Well, well Elgin, Sorry, yeah,
what record is? So I that's how that came about,
Just a kind of random meet.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
No kidding, that's wild.
Speaker 8 (18:56):
Yeah, yeah, it was one. It's one of the coolest
things I've actually done with new I.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Spent a lot of time in Illinois when I was
a kid because my parents divorced when I was pretty
young and my mother, per the custody agreement, moved back
to Illinois, where she was from originally. So I spent
the summers out there, so I know I know that
stayed very well I know exactly where Elgin is and
well that's wild.
Speaker 8 (19:18):
You know. Another crazy thing about it is right in Scotland.
There's a place called Elgin.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Oh is there?
Speaker 12 (19:24):
H So, as I said to the boys, I was like,
we've traveled halfway around the world to end up in
a town that's.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
It's wild.
Speaker 8 (19:34):
It's quite man.
Speaker 12 (19:35):
But recording the album, it was like the guy juanne
Velas's he was very insistent on getting the sound we
had in our room because we'd send him like like
not demos, but like live recordings of in our rehearsal
room and he's like, I want to capture that sound
that you have there.
Speaker 8 (19:52):
Yeah, he was quite bag on it as well. So like,
like I said, it's not really us pushing for it,
it was more him.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
M no, that makes sense.
Speaker 8 (20:02):
So like I was like, and he knows his stuff.
Speaker 12 (20:05):
We're just kind of full lads from a small town
in Scotland, you know what I mean.
Speaker 8 (20:10):
We just play our instruments. Yeah, it's just not our thing.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Oh that's wild.
Speaker 13 (20:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
You just never know, you just never know what might happen.
That's incredible. So, so how long did it take to
record the album?
Speaker 12 (20:24):
And we've done it in ten days, nice, nine days
because the tenth the tenth day we ended up that
was because we were in for the nine days. We
were in every single day for about twelve hours a day,
and then the last day we actually got to go
into Chicago for the day.
Speaker 8 (20:42):
Yeah. Yeah, we got the boat too and everything.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Oh wow, oh very cool.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
I loved it, loved.
Speaker 12 (20:48):
Every sect in America. It's it's it's a beautiful place.
So it was really beautiful.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Oh that's that's awesome. Wow, yeah, that's really cool. Like
I said, I spent a lot of time there when
I was a kid, so I know, I know you
may now that's great. And so you averaged about a
song a day then when you were recording it, So
that's I mean, was that what what were you feeling
like in terms of was that a lot of pressure
or were you were you comfortable with it or how
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was what was that like for you guys?
Speaker 8 (21:17):
It wasn't really pressure. No, we were quite comfortable.
Speaker 12 (21:20):
We knew the songs inside out because we it was
obviously planned like to go over like just under a
year in advance, so we practiced hard, you know what
I mean. We've got everything tight and nailed down, So
there wasn't no, it wasn't pressure. And Joanne like he
he made us feel so comfortable so that like he
made like like it would burn. So what happened was
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would lay down tracks as what like as a band
like would lay down all the tracks and then the
drummer went and he redone all his parts, the basis
went and redone his parts. Haven't in singer, so like
it was really easy and it was really quick and
it was brilliant to work with them. Yeah, it was
really awesome to work with man. And then I, like
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I said, it was no pressure whatsoever. That's not mean
to start to be big headed and anything like that.
Speaker 8 (22:07):
There just really wasn't.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
That's amazing.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
And then and then so how how long after so
so you finish up there and then you and then
you go back and then what was the so what
what about the mastering and everything? I mean did did
was that also done in Illinois or where was that done?
Speaker 8 (22:26):
Yeah? That was done in Illinois as well.
Speaker 12 (22:28):
Yeah, okay, I can't I think Juanne got another another
guy and I can't remember his name just now.
Speaker 8 (22:35):
Ah oh ah, I can't. I can't remember the guy's name.
Now I feel bad now I can't remember the guy's name,
but yeah, he got, he got, he got his friend
to master it.
Speaker 12 (22:50):
Yeah, and I like, we had to read the vocals
in one track, but I singer lyle he's he picks
apart his vocals like was than anybody his own I know,
everybody says this their own biggest critic. Yeah, he really is,
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man to the point where we're like we having to
go like, look, man, it's fine as good. So one
of the one of the tracks, he had to redo
his vocals because he wasn't having it. So yeah, that
was the thing we've done over on Scotland. One of
the vocals that track code falling Down. Yeah, over here
the vocals.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
It's cool too that in terms of the mastering that
it's still you know, because I would imagine somebody getting
a hold of this who then has to master it.
Who you know, you got to hope that they understand
that what you know, what you're going for here, right,
because I think it would probably be easy to take
something like this and then master it in a way
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that maybe it loses a little bit of that rawness.
But obviously obviously they got it. Right, which is fantastic.
Speaker 12 (23:59):
I think Juan was, like I said before that Juwan
was really keen to make sure that he got that
sound that we've got in our rehearsal room.
Speaker 8 (24:08):
M hm. He was really keen on that.
Speaker 12 (24:10):
Like we see me personally, like like I recalled all
the demos and like on my own, like to bring
into the boys all the music and stuff, and like
I would spend I would spend the ten days in
one song, yeah, and everything affected and like I love
all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 8 (24:29):
But Joan's like, no, really keen for it.
Speaker 12 (24:32):
So the guy master on it, he knew like what Juan,
him and Joan worked together yeah on it.
Speaker 8 (24:39):
So like that way it wasn't going to get over
produced and stuff.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Mm hmmmm. They did a great job. And were you
Were you intending from the beginning to do a full
album because obviously, you know, we live in a time
where you have a lot of different options. You know,
you can do albums, you can do EPs. A lot
of artists just released singles now, wasn't it Was it
important to you to do this as a full album,
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as one cohesive set of songs. Was that a priority
for you?
Speaker 12 (25:09):
I don't know about a priority, But we did want
to do an album because like all the songs like
actually tell a wild story. It's like a it's like
there's the aliens, there's time travel. The whole album actually
tells a story. So like like we didn't set out
to do that, it just kind of came about. Yeah,
(25:32):
But like we always knew we wanted to do an album.
Maybe I don't know, there's there's just something about saying
I've got an album right rather than I've got a
couple of songs.
Speaker 8 (25:41):
Out right right. Absolutely, it was always it was always
an album. We've we've released a couple of EPs, an EP.
Speaker 12 (25:51):
So far and a couple of singles, but it's just
because we haven't been able to get back over to
the States to do album two.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
So so, so, do you plan to ultimately return to
UH to Illinois to do another to do more recording.
Speaker 12 (26:07):
Yeah, definitely, But we were actually we were actually meant
to go to Nashville this time really yeah, October this year,
but we had to cancel it.
Speaker 8 (26:15):
A singer ended up getting married.
Speaker 12 (26:20):
He was skinned and I so I think his honeymoon
was book drowned about that time as well.
Speaker 8 (26:25):
So he couldn't do it, so I don't We're trying
to get over next year. Yeah, but Juanne coming over here.
I'd love to. I'd record anywhere in the States to
be honest.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Oh wow, Yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 8 (26:40):
Good. He's got a friend in Nashville. He was the guy.
Speaker 12 (26:45):
That he works with and Nashville done some of the
songs for Red Dead Redemption too.
Speaker 8 (26:52):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, so like he was going to bring
him in with us as well.
Speaker 12 (26:56):
Yeah, I don't know, get a more cinematic sound because
bands developed so like like with the sounds kind of developed.
Speaker 8 (27:05):
It's still got that kind of raw energy and stuff
like that.
Speaker 12 (27:07):
Yeah, but there's there's a bit of cinematic kind of
style as well. So it was wanting to bring on
in this guy, but like I said, ultimately we couldn't
do it. So we're hoping to get over next year.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Okay, okay, Oh that's that's great. Excellent, excellent. Hey, I
wanted to ask you too about the artwork for the album.
I really like that. Uh, and I'm curious if who
did that if if it was somebody in the band,
or or do somebody outside the band did that for you?
Speaker 12 (27:35):
It was it was Lyle's original concept that the guy
with the box on his head. Yes, so like that
was Lyle's original concept. And then we've got an artist
to draw up. And then like we said about because
we've got space man and stuff like that, there was
kind of like that feeling of like, don know, other
worldly stuff.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
So, yeah, we.
Speaker 12 (27:57):
Wanted the kind of space ship bringing. We call him Brett.
I'm a massive Brett Hart fan.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Oh no kidding.
Speaker 12 (28:04):
Yeah, yeah, so like we named the guy with the
box on his head Brett. Yeah, so like we wanted
to make it as if Brett was getting dropped off.
Speaker 8 (28:11):
On Earth to bring our music.
Speaker 13 (28:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Oh wow, that was.
Speaker 8 (28:17):
Kind of the concept of it.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Yeah, that's cool. You like to hit man?
Speaker 8 (28:21):
Yeah, oh man, the best of was the best of us.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
That's awesome. No, that's very very cool. He's my second
favorite of all time. My first favorite is Macho Man
Randy Savage, but Brett is a Brett. Brett is a
very very close number two.
Speaker 8 (28:36):
But Bett like as number two for me as well.
Stone Cold's my favorite, though.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Yeah, Sean would be Sean would be my number three. Well,
have to I do. I also do a wrestling podcast.
We'll have to we'll have to get you on there. Absolutely.
Speaker 12 (28:51):
I like watched, like, like I said, stone Colds my favorite. Yeah,
I watched it from the King of the Ring ninety six. Yeah,
it's like so I'd watch every raw, every pay per view. Yeah,
the way they retired.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Yeah oh wow.
Speaker 12 (29:07):
So like the matches with Brett Hart like that basically
made Stone Colds for me. So like that's why I've
got a fondness for Brett.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Oh absolutely, that's that's very cool, very cool. Oh you
mentioned too, So so you collect vinyl? What's what's the
vinyl situation like there? Because here in the United States,
a lot of artists are still well, all all the
major labels still put out vinyl, which a lot of
people don't even realize, but a lot of independent artists too.
(29:35):
You know, it's expensive, but but they put music out
on vinyl. I mean, do you do you do you
have plans to release or maybe you already have. I
don't know. Is is Candlewood two thirty coming out on vinyl?
Speaker 12 (29:45):
Or we actually had, we had plans to release it
through a company over here, but it was like through
a third party and then they pulled out. So like, really,
we want to and I think that's something we're going
to do in the future. Like you said, is it's
really really expensive, but it's something. It's it's something like
(30:07):
I love because like having that physical copy of something
I don't know. I like, I'm a collector of things,
so like having like that is just I'd love to
have my own album like on vinyl. That's just something
that I aspire to have. Yeah, but over here, loads
of bands do it. NIGN bands that loads, so they do.
Speaker 8 (30:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (30:31):
Yeah, like I said, I absolutely love it. Yeah, and
I've got my oldest boy he's into it as well.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Now, Oh good good. Yeah, I always say nothing nothing
sounds better than vinyl, you know, the warmth of one hundred. Yeah, well,
very good now, And and so what's the live situation
like for you guys? Are you playing a lot of
shows and.
Speaker 8 (30:53):
We're finished up in November there for the year?
Speaker 12 (30:57):
Yeah, And our first gig is on the twenty first
of March, and that's going to be a next EP release.
Speaker 8 (31:05):
Oh so we released Nightmare. Our next single is going
to be.
Speaker 12 (31:15):
Oh no, I can't remember it's between two and I
can't remember which ones. So I'm not going to say Okay,
I get it wrong. But so we've got another two
singles and then it's the EP release. So we're doing
a headline gug up in Glasgow.
Speaker 8 (31:28):
Oh okay, so yeah, so and then we're booked up.
We've got I think we've got a ten gigs in
the diary. I mean, Glasgow's great, Edinburgh's great.
Speaker 12 (31:41):
We don't really get down to England much because it's
a lot of the things is like pay to play basically,
and it's like it's it's hard for a band coming
up because promoters want you to be able to sell tickets,
but bands need to get around the places to that
leaving an impression, right, So the cel tickets in the future,
(32:04):
so it's kind of hard. But we've got a few
gigs down south. We'll get one in Derby and we're
trying to get to London. We've got a few folk
down in London that is to.
Speaker 8 (32:13):
Go down there. So yeah, that's one for the future
as well. Yeah yeah, yeah. The one in the twenty
first of March.
Speaker 12 (32:20):
Actually my son's band, it's going to be their first
ever gig and they're supporting us, so that's kind of
oh wow, man, I.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Oh, that's very cool. That must be what's what's uh
the name of his band.
Speaker 8 (32:35):
Called the Addict okay, the sixteen year old. I don't
think I'm addicted to anything other than playing music.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Yeah, yeah, that's cool. So they're going to be helping
for you. That's awesome.
Speaker 12 (32:47):
Yeah yeah, man, I can't mate. Oh wow, have we
standing at the back like a proud dad?
Speaker 8 (32:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Oh that is so cool. Yeah, you must be very proud.
That's amazing.
Speaker 8 (32:56):
I feel like I'm too young for it to be
happening to do.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Yeah, well there's that, there's that part, all right. No,
that's cool though. That's that's extremely cool. Yea cool, very good.
So the EP is that going to be all new?
Are any of those? Are any of the songs from
kenel Wood two thirty going to be on that? Or
is it all new stuff?
Speaker 8 (33:18):
For its all new stuff?
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Oh wow?
Speaker 12 (33:22):
Three new originals like well Nightmares on it. We've got
dB Cooper and we've actually got a cover of the
well Doing of Have you heard.
Speaker 8 (33:30):
Of Nolan Porter?
Speaker 4 (33:32):
I'm not familiar.
Speaker 12 (33:34):
It's like a kind of northern soul, like a soul
guy Nolan. He's got a song called If I Could
Only Be Sure? Really cool man. So we do a
kind of a rockier cover of it. Okay, so that's
going to be on it as well.
Speaker 8 (33:48):
Oh, excellent one of the four songs.
Speaker 12 (33:51):
But we've got loads of songs there, and we're trying
to kind of space it out throughout the year and
with the thought of recording another album, so we're trying
to keep songs back for this album and trying to
get songs and you know what I mean, trying to.
Speaker 8 (34:08):
Spend plates basically right right.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Yeah, that that can be that can be a challenge.
I mean, it's a good problem, having a sense, but
when you've got more material than is necessarily practical to
release in a compressed period of time and you have
to kind of space it out, and you know, timing
is everything in this business, but that that can be
a challenge too when you've got a you know, I
mean when you when you're creating. You know, I've been
(34:31):
in bands and I'm a songwriter, and I know that
when you when you create something and you're proud of it,
you want to share it with the world. And so
much of this of just doing this is having the
discipline to be able to hold it back, and that
can be very hard.
Speaker 8 (34:45):
Definitely.
Speaker 12 (34:46):
That the other problem as well as like your newest
song that you write that everybody in the band loves
is your favorite song of all time. Yes, and then
like see, maybe six months down the line, you've maybe
wrote two or three more songs after that, which you've
got the exact same feeling about. Yeah, and then the
song that you originally wrote is then just coming out,
so you don't have the same feeling towards it is.
Speaker 8 (35:06):
Trying to kind of balance that as well.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Yeah, yeah, that's challenging.
Speaker 12 (35:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely, but I we've kind of got
it's all written down the plans there. I watched one
of the other boys was here to help me because
he knows a lot more of the details.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
And yeah, well that's okay. Now you're you're doing great.
We've learned a lot this morning, actually, absolutely absolutely, bess uh. Well,
we will have to and we'll definitely have to have
you back for the when the EP is coming out,
because we want to we want to get you back
on for that talk about that and well and we'll
you know, we'll we'll play you know, whatever the first
single is from that. We'd love to play it on
(35:45):
the show where where's the best place for people to
go to keep up with everything that you guys are
doing that the Box of Trash is doing.
Speaker 8 (35:53):
I think. I mean, I'm not on Instagram, but I
think a lot of the stuff is on Instagram, okay,
and Instagram. I'm on Twitter. It's basically the two main ones.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (36:03):
I think Lyle does like tiktoks as well.
Speaker 12 (36:07):
We've got a YouTube channel that's got like live videos
from our gigs and stuff as well.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Excellent.
Speaker 8 (36:13):
So YouTube, TikTok, Instagram and Twitter.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Yeah, all the all the socials.
Speaker 8 (36:19):
Yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
I still call it Twitter too. It's hard to I'm
not gonna.
Speaker 8 (36:24):
I can't not call it Twitter now.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Well, the problem is if if you say Twitter, everyone
knows what you're talking about. But if you say X,
sometimes people don't know what you mean. You know, depending
on the context, it's like X. Yeah, well, very good,
So I want to so we'll let you go in
a moment, Baz, It's been wonderful to speak with you.
Uh yeah, I do. I am going to close out
the segment with another track from Candlewood two thirty. Obviously
(36:50):
we played Nightmare, but what would you like us to
play to end the segment, I'll let you pick them,
kind of putting you on the spot.
Speaker 12 (36:56):
But up in the clouds. There's a cool story behind
that as well. That's the reason why.
Speaker 8 (37:02):
Okay is all right to tell it? Oh?
Speaker 4 (37:04):
Absolutely absolutely, up.
Speaker 12 (37:07):
In the clouds is I wrote the music and then
Wyle was going on holiday and he was at the
airport and I sent him the music. He's like, right,
send it to me and I'll write the song on holiday.
I was like writing no bother and he wrote it
well in the sky like on the plane.
Speaker 8 (37:24):
Oh.
Speaker 12 (37:25):
The first line is like we're up in the clouds
for holiday bound, Oh the purbulence in the sky. So
I it's basically about him going on holiday. And it's
quite a cool groove as well.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
I love the grooves to yeah, Oh, very cool, very cool. Yeah.
I listen to the whole album and I really, I
really like everything on it. So that's a that's a
great choice. So okay, so we're gonna hit that track
in a moment. We will let you go. But again,
thank you so much for joining us, and we will
we will talk again in the future, definitely with the
EP and now I'll reach out to you too about
the podcast. We can get you on that too.
Speaker 8 (38:00):
I'd love it, man, I'd love it would be.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
Very very cool. All right, Bas from Christmas, Oh, merry
Christmas to you. Absolutely all right, Bas from Box of Trash,
thank you so much, my friend. We'll talk to you soon, okay,
all right, take care bye bye bye, all right, wonderful.
That is Baz from the band Box of Trash. And
we will close out the segment with this. And if
you are listening live on Saturday, stick around. We've got
(38:23):
plenty more to come. But Uh here it is. This
is Uh from the album Candlewood two thirty. The band
is Box of Trash and the track is up in
the clouds.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
Welp the house a Hollandy bags. This guy.
Speaker 7 (38:55):
Just loves so five chapter Love.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
I want to get you, know, let me get you.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
I'll feel your passion and I want you help escape
the battle.
Speaker 9 (39:26):
When the rope jetself whats doncy she.
Speaker 7 (39:31):
Have it your road?
Speaker 6 (39:32):
I will be chusing you. They say, I.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Want to get you, Let me let you. The boy
(40:12):
got to know you got to.
Speaker 5 (40:19):
Have you know, we got to know. No, No, I'm
(41:52):
standing in a shut.
Speaker 8 (41:56):
I'm listening to you and.
Speaker 5 (42:00):
A wonder last story, Oh my God, wad spell by
how look at I ben.
Speaker 6 (42:17):
Standing the side.
Speaker 12 (42:21):
Est the time.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
I'll get at a back.
Speaker 8 (43:08):
Staying in the s s to.
Speaker 5 (44:17):
See me ad God miss what's fain?
Speaker 13 (44:26):
He fat?
Speaker 1 (44:31):
He got.
Speaker 5 (44:49):
A bil.
Speaker 6 (44:57):
A bl.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
That is the Ocean by the band replaced by Robots,
love them, love that song so much. And before that,
of course, we heard up in the Clouds by Box
of Trash and thank you again to Baz from the
band Box of Trash for joining us. Really enjoyed my
conversation with him. There were some cool surprises in there too,
So if you missed it, make sure you go back
and listen to the podcast of the show so you
can so you can hear that some quick music news
(45:45):
I saw pop up. This is from Digitalmusicnews dot com
and I did not know that this was going on.
But Mary Bono files appeal following momentous share copyright victory.
I had no idea that this was happening, that Mary Bono,
Sonny Bono's widow, was actually fighting with Cher, who was
(46:06):
also married to Sonny Bono. Of course, over there's always
Here's the thing about the music industry, there's one thing
you can always count on someone is always doing somebody
for something, it says here. Sonny Bono's widow, Mary files
an appeal following a federal judge is ruling last year
that Cher is still entitled to fifty percent of the
proceeds from her nineteen sixties hits with Sonny. Of course,
(46:30):
everyone knows Sonny and Share. Even you youngins have probably
heard of Sonny and Share at least before. Before Chare
was the hugely successful solo artist that she became, she was,
of course, one half of the duo Sonny and Share,
it says here. Last year, a federal judge ruled the
Chare is still entitled to half of the publishing proceeds
from her early hits with her ex Sonny Bono, including
(46:54):
I Got You Babe. Everyone knows that song, right, I
Got You Babe? Forgive me for singing?
Speaker 8 (46:58):
Now.
Speaker 4 (46:58):
A year and a half later, Sonny's widow, Mary Bono
has filed an appeal. Mary has been trying to stop
paying royalties to Share under so called termination rights, under
which artists and their heirs can gain back control of
intellectual property years after signing it away. But last year,
(47:19):
a federal judge ruled that termination rights do not apply
to Sonny and Chera's nineteen seventy eight divorce settlement, which
entitled Chare to a fifty percent cut of publishing revenue
from hits like I Got You Babe, The Beat Goes On,
and Baby Don't Go in perpetuity. In May twenty twenty four,
(47:40):
California Federal US District Judge John A. Kronstat ruled in
Cher's favor, but the decision wasn't made official until a
final judgment that was entered just last month. That judgment
was appealed by Mary Bono's attorney, Daniel Shacked Shat, to
(48:01):
the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals on Monday, December twenty second.
Mary Bono has argued she should be able to invoke
her termination rights to cancel Sunny's assignment of royalties to
share in the divorce settlement, but Judge Cronstat ruled that
the divorce agreement was a contract for financial compensation, not
(48:22):
a grant of intellectual property that would be subject to termination,
writing that quote a right to receive royalties is distinct
from a grant of copyright unquote, so it says a
Shat told Billboard quote Judge Cronstat's got the law wrong
(48:42):
on copyright terminations. His ruling, if left standing, will hurt
songwriters and creators by allowing not just former spouses, but
also publishers and labels to circumvent the Copyright Act and
keep shares of royalties even after termination unquote, he said
at the time of the judge's ruling last year. By
the way, and Share was also in the news recently
(49:03):
for this Share was the musical guest on Saturday Night
Live last weekend, while Ariana Grande hosted the episode. But
the seventy which is unusual, by the way, you would think,
because it's not I mean, it's not super common. But
occasionally you'll have a musical guest and a host be
the same person. You know, like you might have Veryana
Grande because obviously she's a musician. You might have her
(49:24):
host and be the musical guest, you know, pulling double duty.
You see that once in a while. But they didn't
do that this time. Cherre was the musical guest. The
seventy nine year old has been accused of lip syncing
during her performance of her twenty twenty three Christmas track
DJ Play a Christmas Song, which left some fans disappointed.
Jenny and I thought the same thing as we were
(49:45):
watching it. Is she lip syncing it? It did appear
that way. She isn't even singing. One person complaining on
X this is some of the worst lip syncing I've
ever seen, regardless, I mean, even if she was singing live,
there was a lot of processing on her voice. And
(50:06):
I know, her huge monster hit song was it Believe
Do you Believe? In Life After Love? You know, that
was like that's like got the auto tune dialed all
the way up on that song, and that kind of
became like her sound there in that moment. I mean,
auto tune obviously during that period was used a lot.
(50:28):
It still is, I mean, but used like obviously where
you're actually supposed to hear the auto tune. That kind
of became the style and the vibe for a little while.
And you know, I think it sounds horrible and I
hate that song for that reason anyway. But yeah, so
some legal news, and of course the lip syncing, I mean,
(50:49):
you know, the lip syncing thing, well that'll blow over.
Nobody really cares that much. I'll tell you what. For
seventy nine years old, she still moves really well. So
I'll give her that, but I don't think she was
actually singing. But again, and that's not a big deal.
But the legal wrangling, I didn't even know that that
was going on, that there was ongoing litigation between Mary Bono,
who Sonny was married to at the time of his death,
(51:11):
and Share. I did not know about that, so that's
interesting to me. All Right, we are approaching the top
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