Under The Horizon | Matt Connarton Unleashed

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
School, a pat and sunrise these some games.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
See he's off and a cigarette closer. Yes, all I'm
moving and a way I can't tame.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
I don't know how you do.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
It, but tally I've not to say I'm burning.

Speaker 5 (01:02):
See the obvious in the sunrise?

Speaker 3 (01:05):
How many things that days to the say away? He says, yes,
we won't win. Got the bits to the world. Holdy

(01:31):
los see looking.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
Not thy is that's nine That was all.

Speaker 6 (01:43):
He ever feels different now and the lasting may.

Speaker 5 (01:49):
Not that p whole.

Speaker 6 (01:51):
I'm see the opating sunlight, any things that there is
the same, Away said, if you.

Speaker 7 (02:05):
Got let's stick fwen on some don't then on my mother.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
I don't when all.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
You got some fun in is FI with fir lame spies?
Do they know I'm nosing? Looking lady.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
Not plead to say a pie?

Speaker 6 (03:13):
Bame sarrog is in sunway finnything, Ada, the boy said to.

Speaker 8 (03:24):
Plead, say a fire going down?

Speaker 3 (03:27):
See the rubies in some way finnything? Okay, say away,
he said to you, Yes.

Speaker 9 (04:04):
That is orchids in the sunrise. The band they are
here with us in studio under the horizon. We've got
all three members here. Welcome everybody. We're gonna talk with them.
We're gonna get caught up really looking forward to this.
This is Matt Connorton Unleashed and of course we are
live from the studios of wm NH ninety five point
three FM and Glorious Manchester, New Hampshire. And of course
you can stream the show. Go to Matt connorton dot com,

(04:25):
slash live. We're all your live streaming options, social media links,
contact infosho, archives, et cetera, et cetera. Just don't bother
with the Facebook link because Facebook has restricted me from
streaming live until December. I have no idea why, because
they don't tell you when they do this soup. But
you can stream it on YouTube and of course it
is a radio show, so if you're in the Manchester

(04:47):
area you can just stream it or actually just listen
to it, I should say, at ninety five point three
FM on your FM dial. Jenny is here of course
at the news table, and let me get those mics
up because joining us in studio we have and let
me get that camera on them too. For those of
you watching the video feed, So there's Matt Palmer, Jordan
Sweet and is he McIntyre all here with us live

(05:09):
in studio. Good morning, good morning morning. Yes, yes, so
under the horizon. Great to uh, great to have here.
The last time Jenny and I saw you, of course,
was at Bad Burger's, right, and uh, yeah, you've come
a long way. You're a lot heavier than it used
to be, which is really nice.

Speaker 7 (05:26):
I like it.

Speaker 9 (05:27):
Yeah, sounding amazing. So we're gonna get caught up. We're
gonna get it in everything. But we should uh and Jordan,
this is more you and I talking about this, I suppose,
but we should. Let's get the sad part out of
the way and we won't spend a lot of time
on it. But of course, uh, we both We lost
a hero of ours. Ace Frayley, big, big influence on me.
Definitely the main reason why I play guitar. And yeah,

(05:49):
you know, like obviously there's other influences that I have,
like you know, Van Halen, Dimebag, but I think Ace
was definitely my biggest reason to be playing guitar. I mean, yeah,
you know, I know if it was his sound, the look,
the you know, whole band itself, kiss or his solo acts,
but the guy just had some something for me and

(06:09):
I was just like wow, yeah, like this is where
it's at, Like, yeah, yeah, do you have a favorite
Ace Fraely solo?

Speaker 10 (06:18):
Honestly the solo from was it Love Them and Leave Him?
I think is that?

Speaker 9 (06:23):
Oh yeah, I like that.

Speaker 11 (06:23):
Why, that's a pretty good solo rock and roll over.
I feel like a lot of people don't really listen
to that album that much, and you know, don't really
listen to the solos on there, but that's got some
good guitar work on there, honestly.

Speaker 10 (06:35):
Yeah, So that's definitely one of my favorite ones.

Speaker 9 (06:38):
My personal favorite has always been Strange Ways Right.

Speaker 10 (06:41):
Yeah, that's another good one.

Speaker 9 (06:42):
I love that solo. And now, did you guys play
with Ace? Did you do a show with Ace? Or
did you know? But you you went right?

Speaker 10 (06:49):
We went saw him, we met him. That was a
cool time.

Speaker 9 (06:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (06:55):
I think we had tried at some point, just didn't
really fall through. Yeah, I mean stuff like that happens
all the time. You try to playing gig, doesn't fall through.

Speaker 12 (07:05):
It is what it is, you know.

Speaker 11 (07:06):
But we did get to meet the guy. Yeah, definitely
a pretty cool time. He did put on a pretty
good show that night too, which you know, there's a
good time to see you know.

Speaker 10 (07:16):
Yeah, everybody seem to have a good time there too.

Speaker 9 (07:18):
So yeah, yeah, no, it's uh yeah, it's and that's
one of the things that you know that Mike knows us.
I'm sure as it thought about this. You know, as
you get older, your heroes they start to die off, right, yeah,
and you know, and you're experiencing a hero dying. You know,
you're you're young, and you know your heroes are already
diying off.

Speaker 10 (07:36):
Yeah yeah right, I mean, dude, like within this year,
I mean, how many.

Speaker 12 (07:40):
People have we lost?

Speaker 11 (07:41):
Yeah, we lost Auzzie, we lost Ace, we lost was
it Brian Wilson from Beach Boy lost him? We lost Dangelo? Right, yeah,
it's just everybody's just rolling.

Speaker 10 (07:56):
I'm like, dude, what happened?

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (07:59):
Another five years and you I thought these people were immortally.

Speaker 9 (08:02):
Right, Yeah, I know, I know. Yeah, no, it's it's
it's hard. But but that's cool though that you know,
he was such an inspiration to you, and uh and
and why I picked up the guitar. That's that's great.

Speaker 10 (08:14):
Yeah, I'm glad that I got to experience him.

Speaker 9 (08:16):
It's wonderful that you got to meet him. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
absolutely good memories. Yes, yes, well, so we'll talk about
what's been going on with the band. Dying to hear
from all three of you on this and uh, you know,
it looks like you're doing a lot of good stuff,
making a lot of progress, playing a lot of shows.
You got a busy, busy schedule. Did you play last
night somewhere? We did?

Speaker 13 (08:37):
Uh, We played a Halloween show. It was a creep
fest okay in Cranston, Rhode Island at pub On Park.
It was a great show, yeah, hosted by Ramboutacon and
Voltage Entertainment. And we got to play with obviously our
extended family and Scarecrow Hill.

Speaker 9 (08:59):
Yeah I love them.

Speaker 12 (09:00):
No, yeah, we've heard great friends with them.

Speaker 13 (09:03):
But we also got to meet a lot of new
friends there among Ghosts, Forever's, Fallen Grace, Providence, all great guys,
all great bands. It was an amazing, amazing night, amazing show.

Speaker 9 (09:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (09:18):
Yeah, and it was fun.

Speaker 13 (09:19):
It was fun to actually do something on Halloween night
rather than just like sit at home watch you know,
the Evil Dead for the ninetieth time in the row
or whatever. Right, right, But yeah, we've been we've been busy.
We've been you know, working on the upcoming album. A
lot of that's in editing and mixing right now. So

(09:42):
we're looking music videos. Yeah, yeah, music. We've been doing
music videos for the second album, and you know, just
keep working.

Speaker 9 (09:53):
MH. I'm really curious to know about the evolution of
the sound because you're I mean, you know, the song
for people hearing you for the first time, of course,
the song we displayed, you know, it's dark and heavy
and whatnot. But seeing you live because Jenny and I
the first time we saw it was when you were
opening for a Great White right, you.

Speaker 10 (10:10):
Know, and away in the earlier stage.

Speaker 5 (10:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (10:13):
And then when we saw you at Bad Burger, you know,
it was it was louder, it was heavier. Oh and
before that too, well, when we saw you at Jewel
Oh yeah, yeah, because because I remember that night saying,
I was like, wow, they've they've definitely gotten heavier.

Speaker 12 (10:30):
Things have changed.

Speaker 9 (10:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (10:31):
Yeah, I think with like all the shows that we've
been playing and also a lot of the new bands
that we meet, like, it's definitely influenced our perspective and
our performance. And I'd also say, for at least for me,
like a big change in a monumental like I guess
point in my career was Milwaukee Metal Fest. Like seeing
all the bands there, it definitely changed something in me,

(10:54):
and I don't think it's been the same since.

Speaker 13 (10:56):
Yeah, seeing the energy that those bands brought, you know,
like whether it was you know, like the big bands
like you know, Gua and Arch Enemy, you know, or
Down or Chimera obviously, but you know, even some of
the smaller bands that we checked out. Like I remember
there was one band in particular that we checked on
the second stage, a Fugitive. Yeah, there were this thrash

(11:20):
band that like we didn't know anything about, but we
went in there and like next thing, you know, we
look around and we see like bodies flying all over
the place and we're like, all right, yeah, this is
you know, this is a little more like what we're
into here. And it was just like that whole experience.
You know, not only was it great and was it
great to you know, have the opportunity and to play in,

(11:42):
you know, an event like that, but you know, to
look around and see all these bands and grab little
bits of you know, influence from everyone. I'd say that overall,
that's really what we do. You know, we try to
pick up influences of things, you know, because we as
much as we're in our you know, in our own

(12:02):
band to wear our own you know, style or whatever,
we are still fans and when we go to shows,
you know, it's like we're going to see our favorite
bands and all that. So we uh, you know, take
little bits and pieces and we're like all right, like,
you know, that's cool. What if we try to take
it and twist it in our own way? And I

(12:22):
think with the whole you know, getting heavier thing, I
think we all kind of liked when we did stuff
there was a little more heavy and it was a
little more outside of our comfort zone. Yeah, coming out
of the first album. Yeah, and we just fell in
love with it. Yeah, like this is this is where
we're heaving.

Speaker 14 (12:41):
Well, I also think it's just us getting more comfortable
on stage, Like we're more comfortable and performing and just
I guess being different in front of other people.

Speaker 11 (12:50):
Yeah, being more true to ourselves, right or stage show
definitely evolved a lot more after you know, we got heavier.
I mean, d like as much as I remember the
the you know, original days and you know, the first
couple of months of us being a band, and I

(13:11):
enjoy looking back, I so much more appreciate and take
pride in the stage show that we've developed now because
of our heavier sound. Yeah, all of our you know,
more mature evolutions that we've done with the music and
you know, the bands that we've met. I mean, you know,
a lot of our stage show in a sense has
taken part from other bands, and we'd taken you know,

(13:33):
influences from other bands.

Speaker 10 (13:35):
But at the end of the day, I really feel
like our evolution.

Speaker 11 (13:39):
Has just been from us just being heavier, you know,
like you can't exactly be you know, jumping around and
whipping your hair around when you're playing some like softer rock. Right,
it's not as good as the time. I mean, it's
still a good time, but it doesn't hit us harde
you know.

Speaker 9 (13:54):
Of course, of course, if you are just showing us
we've got all three members of Under the Horizon or
here with us in studio.

Speaker 10 (14:02):
It sounds like.

Speaker 9 (14:05):
Like did you ever have a conversation about sounding heavi
because it sounds like it just sort of happened organically,
like you never really that's my impression.

Speaker 14 (14:12):
I would say it just happened, Yeah, just it just happened.

Speaker 11 (14:16):
I think it really was just like every couple of practices,
somebody would do something like, you know, Maddie would throwing
like a little scream or is he would you know,
throwing a scream or throw in a pinch harmonic or whatever,
and we were just like, oh, we can do this,
Like we don't have to play like kiss like we
can we can be Pantera. And I think that's kind

(14:39):
of where it all evolved. And we were like, oh,
so we can do this, so why don't we try
to do it?

Speaker 7 (14:45):
You know?

Speaker 14 (14:45):
Right?

Speaker 12 (14:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (14:46):
Yeah, exactly, yeah, exactly the songs that that are going
to be on the new isn't Is it gonna be
in another Epeter is gonna be an album?

Speaker 12 (14:55):
Or what album?

Speaker 9 (14:56):
Album? This time?

Speaker 13 (14:58):
We with the first the first release, it was kind
of I like to say it was an unintentional EP.

Speaker 12 (15:06):
Yeah, we didn't. We honestly all.

Speaker 13 (15:09):
I think we're very surprised when we like edited it
down and we were like, oh my god, it's only
thirty minutes. Yeah, we were like, oh no, but you know,
even though obviously we still love it, but yeah, this
one is a full full fledged album. Okay, I think
around like ten twelve tracks, anything like that okay, thirteen tracks.

Speaker 9 (15:32):
Thirteen yeah, excellent, excellent. Now the in terms of how
you approach recording, has that changed at all with the
heavier sounder? Is it kind of the same? Eerth about the.

Speaker 14 (15:43):
Same, But I think we put in a lot more
time and also added a lot like extra tracks.

Speaker 9 (15:49):
I'd say, really, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:52):
A lot.

Speaker 9 (15:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (15:53):
I think the approach and like how we executed the
recording is very much like still kind of the same.
We you know, this time we sat down and were like,
all right, like we want you know, this is going
to be like a statement We wanted it to be, uh,
you know, statement of this.

Speaker 12 (16:13):
Is us, this is who we are.

Speaker 13 (16:16):
And you know, like as he said, try and stuff,
you know, more stuff in the studio now that we're
more comfortable and we're you know, hearing different sounds, Like
there was so many times where we would just be
doing like someone would play something completely random, like Jordan
would just do something that was like it did it
wasn't even meant for this song or whatever, and he

(16:36):
was just like practicing and I'm like, wait, wait, wait,
what are you doing there?

Speaker 5 (16:39):
Record?

Speaker 8 (16:40):
You know?

Speaker 11 (16:41):
Yeah, I think I mean, I think the second album
is definitely a lot more mature, and it has all
the same you know, recording styles, and obviously there's a
couple of tonal changes in there. But I think it
really differs from the first album because I mean the
first album was like an experiment. We were just like, well,
we have a rich songs than we could make an

(17:02):
album or EP, I guess, and we were just like, well,
let's send it and see what we can do. But
now we're like, we're going to make this like a
platinum sounding record and people are going to listen to it.

Speaker 10 (17:12):
You know, Yeah, we're going to get it done.

Speaker 9 (17:15):
Yeah, exactly exactly. Do you as as you're recording this,
do you ever think about, well, let me put it
this way, is it ever? Are you ever concerned with
can we replicate this live? Like if we're if we
record it this way, what we're going for?

Speaker 12 (17:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (17:31):
Can?

Speaker 14 (17:32):
I would say that, like we already play a lot
of this stuff live, Like I feel like the live
stuff came before how we were going to play it
on the record.

Speaker 9 (17:39):
That's good, Yeah, yeah, that makes it easier.

Speaker 14 (17:41):
Yeah, especially at least for me vocally, Like I've changed
a lot in the last couple of months, and so
some of the stuff that I've actually had to even
go back to re record vocals because I'm like, that's
not heavy enough, like it's not there. So yeah, i'd
say the live performance, like how we perform it there
is definitely come before the actual recording style.

Speaker 9 (18:00):
Yeah, yeah, because whereas this only three of you, by
the way, So I mean, I assume the long term
plan is to keep it the three of you. If
you you've never discussed, like, adding a fourth member not
something I think we.

Speaker 11 (18:15):
We thought about adding a fourth member before we even
had original music. Really, I think that was the first
and last time we ever considered it, because it's just like,
you know, it's it's just the dynamics, you know.

Speaker 9 (18:28):
It's so good the way it is.

Speaker 11 (18:30):
Yeah, it's it's hard to not only is it hard
to adapt to having a fourth member, because now you're like, okay,
we got to figure out you know.

Speaker 10 (18:39):
It's can they play on time?

Speaker 11 (18:42):
Can they adapt to our style that we have in
our sound, But you're also risking the dynamics of the
band falling apart. Now now it's well, we're not a
three person boat. Now we have four people, and we
now risk having two camps. If somebody disagrees, and now
it's a two on two or it's a three on one,

(19:02):
and it's like there's just too many, too many potential.

Speaker 10 (19:06):
Problems for storry about you.

Speaker 13 (19:08):
And I think you know we're all you know, as
I'm sure that you know any other musician who's listening
to this, or you know, even the other musicians in this.

Speaker 12 (19:16):
Room here, can you know relate that.

Speaker 13 (19:19):
You know, we've all been in bands that it's like
you have like the ideal amount of people, you know
what I mean, Like, oh, well great, we have you know,
two guitar players and you know, dedicated lead singer who
you know, and a dedicated bass player and whatever. But
in all of those bands were like there's way too

(19:41):
many cooks in this kitchen. And this band was really
about the three of us, you know, coming from our
separate projects and being like, hey, we work really well together,
and we're really tight, and were we really understand our language,
like we're writing stuff, have the time, you know, we
won't even have to like talk about much of like okay,

(20:04):
well what do we do next for this next section?
It's just organic. We all are just kind of like
interlinked with each other. Yeah, And I think it, you know,
really works out. We just haven't wanted to, you know,
mess that up in any way.

Speaker 9 (20:19):
I think that's smart. Yeah, And and the three of
you are able to get such a big sound with
only three of you, so you don't need a fourth
person anyway.

Speaker 12 (20:31):
It's it's.

Speaker 9 (20:33):
Right.

Speaker 11 (20:34):
Yeah, it's interesting because I mean we I've heard that
where people are like, oh, you guys are very full
for a three piece, which I mean is partially why.
I mean, there's always the stereotype you need a lead
and a rhythm guitar player, you need all the people
to make the big sound. But I think it really
just depends on how you play your instrument, you know,

(20:55):
like like you know, I can have a full sound
in a solo by just throwing octaves in there is
he can have a full sound by just growling and
you know, layering tracks in the studio or even just
doing it live. Maddie bangs his drums like an ape,
so like you know, you know, it's like it really
just goes to show like if you can play your

(21:15):
instrument in a certain way, you can make a full
sound out of minimal amount of people.

Speaker 9 (21:20):
That's a good way of putting it. Yeah, yeah, exactly,
and you can hear like you can clearly hear everything,
like if you because if you're playing a solo and
you don't have an extra guitarist playing rhythm, you can
you can hear what is he's doing on bass. You
can hear all the drums right, all the you know,
the double kick and everything. You can clearly hear it, right,
you know what Matt's playing. So I think, no, I
think that's smart. That makes a lot of sense. Yeah,

(21:43):
do you get that a lot? Like are people surprised?
Do they tell you that?

Speaker 14 (21:47):
It almost I think everything. Yeah, Like there's always somebody
who's like, yeah, you guys sound like huge.

Speaker 9 (21:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's great.

Speaker 11 (21:54):
We get a lot of surprise because I mean we're
all young and we're playing and lately we've been playing
with people people who are you know, honestly veterans in
the in the music industry and like they've been here
for decades years, you know, like and people are like, oh,
young individuals with a room full of forty year olds,

(22:16):
how is this gonna go? And when we go on stage,
just you know, we blow them away, and you know,
they they honestly, they come up to us and they're like,
I wasn't expecting that, but I'm glad that I was here.

Speaker 10 (22:27):
Yeah, yeah, it's definitely.

Speaker 11 (22:30):
I'm grateful that we can actually put that out and
you know, we put on a good show and people
are excited to see us, and people are even getting
any surprise because I mean, they can see us.

Speaker 10 (22:41):
But if they're not surprised by us, are we really
doing our job right?

Speaker 9 (22:45):
All right? Yeah? I won't say who it is on
the air, but Jenny and I had had a conversation
actually was after you were on the show, the first
time we had a conversation with somebody who we wanted
to to connect you with. Who react acted? Do you
do you remember this? Jenny? I won't say what it is,
but who reacted like they're kids, I don't know, you
know who I'm talking about, and funny enough, so you

(23:08):
did end up working with them. And again I won't
say on the air who it was, but you know,
but I don't know if they would even mind, but
it's somebody you did end up working with, so it
all worked out and I think they were very happy
that they they worked with you on a show. I'll
tell you off air afterward who it was? But but
but yeah, but now are you all like, like, are
any of you still in school at this point? What

(23:29):
is a you're in college now? Right?

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (23:30):
Yeah yeah? And then what about you guys you're both
out of high school now right?

Speaker 12 (23:34):
Yeah? We both were both graduated.

Speaker 9 (23:36):
That's what I thought. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so you're not
you know, it's not like your kids anymore, right, I mean.

Speaker 10 (23:43):
As much as we can.

Speaker 9 (23:43):
There you go, there you go, there you go. Now,
how now what's the show schedule been?

Speaker 11 (23:49):
Like?

Speaker 9 (23:49):
It looks like you've been really busy, Like are you
playing every weekend?

Speaker 14 (23:52):
Or I mean, if we're not not doing a show,
we're definitely doing like music videos or yeah, editing or something.
There's no there's no break here.

Speaker 9 (24:01):
Yeah. Oh you're working hard. You're working hard? Is that
hard with going to school?

Speaker 7 (24:05):
Is that?

Speaker 15 (24:05):
Oh?

Speaker 14 (24:06):
Only it can be a handful because uh I also
work on top of it all.

Speaker 13 (24:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (24:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (24:11):
Basically it's like a six am to ten thirty at
night thing, and then the weekends are my I guess
show times.

Speaker 9 (24:17):
Yeah yeah, no, it's a lot. It's a lot to handle.
But and are all of you you're all only in
this band, right, are any of you doing.

Speaker 12 (24:26):
No, No, Yeah, this band.

Speaker 13 (24:28):
Yeah, we're all in this band, and all our creative
energy goes toward.

Speaker 9 (24:33):
That's great, this band. That's great. Yeah, especially for you
because every other drummer I know is in ten different
bands because nobody can find a drummer.

Speaker 13 (24:40):
Yeah, yeah, it is a I feel like that is
the thing with us, is that we all kind of
end up becoming like, you know, musical swingers in a way.
We we're all just kind of all over the place.
But I mean I think that you know, now, you know,
after I spent you know, years moving around with different

(25:02):
projects and all that, Like, I couldn't be happier, you
know than to be with where we are now. You know,
I think that this is the band that I always
you know, wanted to do and be in.

Speaker 9 (25:17):
Yeah. Yeah, that's outstanding if you're just joining us. Under
the horizon is here with us in studio. And now
who are some of the who are some of the
acts that you've that you've played with, because you you've
played with some national acts, right, Yeah, so.

Speaker 13 (25:32):
We we played with Great White and Queens Reich last year.
Oh yeah, and then we met up and then we
opened up again for Great White at the two Polow
not too long ago, about a month ago. But other
than that, we've been you know, playing with a lot
of of the you know, higher up local acts obviously

(25:53):
as we have already mentioned a couple of times, and
the whole things Scarecrow Hill, You've done a lot of
shows with them. We've done some shows with Sepsis. We
have some more upcoming shows with Sepsis. Actually, yea be
there down the road coming right out.

Speaker 9 (26:10):
Yeah, that's true. It's already November, so it's only a
couple of weeks away. Oh my god.

Speaker 10 (26:15):
Yeah, it's coming around the corner. Yeah, really look out.

Speaker 13 (26:21):
But yeah, a bunch of bands, a bunch of you know,
a bunch of people, dead Man's Trigger, Silent Season, oh yeah, yeah,
the Great Curtain, yeah, Saving Vice, right, Yeah, yeah, a
lot of a lot of bands, and we you know
that we've you know, really been trying to reach out

(26:42):
to every band we can, because we want to be
in in the scene with these people, so meeting them,
talking to them and you know, sharing you know, musical conversations, notes, experiences,
whatever you want to say. I think has you know,
catapulted us not only as a band, but as people,

(27:04):
you know, I'd say we have a lot more confidence
now walking into a venue you know where it's like, oh,
we know all the bands on this bill.

Speaker 10 (27:13):
Yeah, and we're you know, there were friends with them
and yeah that always helps.

Speaker 12 (27:16):
Yeah, it's great.

Speaker 9 (27:17):
Yeah, it helps a lot. Yeah, absolutely, Why don't we
play another another track? But what should you know? I'll
let you pick. This is you know, of course from
the original EP, and I can't wait to hear the
new stuff. But what should we play from? I got
it open?

Speaker 10 (27:35):
So that's a great question.

Speaker 13 (27:38):
Why don't we do it? Why don't we do a
little bit off? I don't want to be you. Let's
wake these people up this morning.

Speaker 9 (27:43):
I don't want to be Yeah, and tell us about
this song before we play it.

Speaker 13 (27:49):
This song it's about when I was in fifth grade,
they had this class or whatever where you would go
in and you would talk to a guidance counselor about
what you wanted to be, and she would go onto
this government website and type in and they would give
you like some hourly like estimated hourly wage or saluri.

Speaker 12 (28:11):
You would get.

Speaker 13 (28:12):
So I was like, I want to be a musician,
and she's like, well, it doesn't really pay that well
and blah blah blah, you should be a marine biologist
or whatever instead, and I'm like, no, thanks. Yeah, So
this song is about you know, she told me that
I was never going to make it when it came
to music, and you know, I think she even said
that I would end up being homeless and collecting oh
my god, no tips from bars that I would play at.

(28:34):
And I'm like, lady, you're a school teacher. Like, I
don't really know what the comparison is here. So anyways,
this song is about my aggravation towards her.

Speaker 9 (28:44):
Did the website listen hourly wage for being a musician.

Speaker 13 (28:49):
It was like, you know, you can make anywhere from
like five bucks an hour to like twenty bucks an hour.
And I literally said, I'm like, but we don't make
hourly wages right half the time, we don't even get paid,
so how can you even make that equation? Right?

Speaker 11 (29:05):
Right?

Speaker 9 (29:06):
Oh that's funny, that's funny. All right, very good. This
is a great track. This is I Don't want to
be you. This is under the horizon wa do what
that bot?

Speaker 16 (29:33):
It's not just not a do stand as read the
Misery of Bear you don't care about my dreams nother
let's say time dreams.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
You may not understand, which I can understand.

Speaker 5 (29:47):
I rather live my life.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
I don't want to be on acapone.

Speaker 5 (29:53):
I don't want to pay.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
I don't want to be here.

Speaker 16 (30:03):
Don't take the don's that I don't need, don't want
to live like I don't repeat. I'm as well spinning
my eye and you watch my dreams. You may not
understand which JOHN understand.

Speaker 12 (30:18):
And I'd rather in my life?

Speaker 5 (30:20):
Then what don't have you?

Speaker 9 (30:23):
I don't wanna be.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
I don't want to be you.

Speaker 13 (30:35):
If you want to be in a fand just grow
up and face it, you'll never count asking your life.

Speaker 12 (30:41):
You're a show.

Speaker 11 (30:42):
I don't want to be you.

Speaker 15 (30:47):
I don't want to be you.

Speaker 5 (30:51):
I don't wanna be you.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Wanna be you?

Speaker 8 (31:00):
Oh, you may not understand. We got understand I'm rather
in my eye?

Speaker 9 (31:09):
And what don't you may not understand?

Speaker 4 (31:14):
Doctors understand I'm bad under my eye?

Speaker 8 (31:19):
And why God down your back?

Speaker 5 (31:22):
I don't want to pay you. I don't want to
pay you. Don't, don't don't.

Speaker 7 (31:31):
I don't want to pay, don't, don't, don't.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
I don't want to be you.

Speaker 17 (31:38):
Don't know.

Speaker 9 (31:44):
That that ought to get the blood pumping. I don't
want to be you by Under the Horizon. Love that track.
That is so catchy and I love the I love
the backstory there, Matt, that's really good.

Speaker 12 (31:53):
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 9 (31:55):
If you are just joining us, Under the Horizon is
here with us in studio. We have Matt Palmer, Jordan Sweet,
and Izzie McIntyre here with us on this uh Saturday
and uh sounding sounding great. Can't wait to hear the
new stuff, and we might we might even hear something
from the won't won't say anything official, but we might
hear something on the show right in the coming weeks.

Speaker 10 (32:14):
Sneak peak to the album, A little sneak peak.

Speaker 9 (32:17):
To the album. Yeah, So if you are, if you
are a regular listener of the show, you want to
make sure you tune in every week because you might
hear something new very soon from from Under the Horizon. Well,
which does raise a question, do you have kind of
a long term do you have any kind of an
eta on when? Uh when, when the new when the
new one might be coming outer.

Speaker 13 (32:37):
We're looking about four months out, okay, so early early
twenty twenty six. Okay, we're gonna you know, we're thinking
probably around like springtime or so, so ideally you know,
before you know, the big show season, so then we
can you know, release the album and then you know,

(32:57):
we'll have a whole schedule of shows for you know,
people to you know, come out check it out. And yeah, yeah,
so about four months, so sooner. It's it's sooner than
you think, you know. Okay, we've been we've been saying
that because this has this album has taken a long time,

(33:19):
but we're making it through soon. We're looking at about
four months and.

Speaker 9 (33:24):
So okay, okay, excellent. Do you have other elements like
like artwork and stuff. Have you decided on that yet
or you're waiting until the album's done or we we've I.

Speaker 13 (33:36):
Can't say that we've officially decided on anything, but it
has all been in conversation.

Speaker 7 (33:44):
You know.

Speaker 13 (33:44):
Obviously that's all stuff we got to coordinate. But i'd
say that, you know, we've had conversations on all of that,
and I think we all basically have the same vision
of what we want. It's just you know, get you know,
having the time, you know, once we're done doing and
all the other stuff to be like okay, this is
what we're gonna do. Go, let's send it, you know,

(34:04):
send it to all the companies and all that.

Speaker 9 (34:06):
Yeah, yeah, it's a yeah, there's a lot of a
lot of work that goes into it, for sure. I'm
curious too about what what goes into the decision to, like,
because you're doing a full album, because there's so many
different ways to release music now, and you know, you
could do you can you can do an album, you
can do an EP, obviously, you can do you know,
a lot of artists now just do a series of singles.

(34:28):
You know, they kind of do the inverse where and
maybe those singles coalesce into an album eventually, which is
completely different than the way I was like when I
was growing up. You know, it was you know, first
single goes to radio six eight weeks before the album.
Then the album comes out. Then if everything goes well,
you get a second single, maybe a third single. But
now it's like there's so many different ways to do
it now.

Speaker 14 (34:47):
It's kind of I think the plan with this album
we've we've I guess heard from a lot of other
bands that leasing like song at a time usually works
better because unfortunately, in this day and age, people's like
attention span are a lot lower.

Speaker 10 (35:01):
So to keep people's like.

Speaker 14 (35:03):
I guess attention you know, Yeah, sometimes it's easier to
you know, give them something to chew on and then
come back a week or two later and something else.

Speaker 9 (35:10):
Yeah. Yeah, So when you do, is it important to
you as a band to have like uh yeah, I
don't know, like is there any kind of a theme
to these or something that kind of binds the songs
together that are going to be on the new album
or absolutely.

Speaker 12 (35:24):
I mean i'd say that.

Speaker 13 (35:27):
When we when we went into writing this record, we
had kind of a vision where like, Okay, we want
to you know, still be ourselves obviously, but we want
to be heavier. We want to be darker, more gothic,
and we wanted to you know, implement more elements of

(35:48):
you know, some of the other stuff that we'd been
listening to, you know, like is he has put some
of our classical influences in on this album and gothic influences,
and I know from me and Jordan, there's some you know,
influences from bands like Tool and you know heavier bands Pantera, Yeah,

(36:10):
stuff like that, and even you know, some new metal
stuff like you know, slip nod and you know lamp
and just whatever you know tickles our brain.

Speaker 9 (36:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (36:20):
And then but I'd say overall, where like we want
it to be heavier, more encompassing, darker.

Speaker 9 (36:27):
Yeah. Yeah, And how is the live show, because you
touched on it earlier, the live show, how is that?
How has that changed? You mentioned that's also kind of
changed as the music has has gotten heavier, Like are
there are there specific elements that have changed or is
it just how you all kind of perform individually on stage.

Speaker 14 (36:44):
Or I think our energies really have changed. I think
there's put a lot more energy into our performance. And
I mean there's some added I guess stage gimmicks as well,
And I would.

Speaker 9 (36:55):
Just say more.

Speaker 14 (36:55):
I guess maybe for Jordan, like the movement that he
moves a lot more, I feel a lot more exaggerated.
We get off stage two for anyone who hasn't seen us,
and we try to interact the crowd. But I say,
just overall, our energy is a lot higher than I
think it used to be.

Speaker 11 (37:13):
Yeah, Because I mean I remember watching like the Great
White Video, you know, when we first played the.

Speaker 10 (37:19):
Show that you guys get to and like it's just
drag drag drag. I'm just watching. I'm barely moving.

Speaker 11 (37:28):
We're all like we're young, so I mean, dude, like,
you know, obviously got to cut a little slack as
we were young.

Speaker 10 (37:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (37:36):
First, you know, first a little bit in the music industry,
but like now it's just like we actually function like
a real theatrical I guess band. How things are. The
music's good, theatrics are good, and we've all just grown
to have our own like you know, building the band,

(37:56):
but also us individually all have our little gimmick and
you know, our personalization to ourselves that way, it's not
just like you're a group of kids.

Speaker 12 (38:07):
It's just you all are three.

Speaker 11 (38:09):
Musicians with three separate talents, and you make one big unit,
right right, So it's definitely cool to see that, you know,
turn out in the live.

Speaker 9 (38:18):
Oh yeah, I just realized as you were talking about
that too. That was a great white show. That was
was that? That wasn't your first show?

Speaker 15 (38:24):
Was it? Or was it.

Speaker 10 (38:26):
Second?

Speaker 9 (38:27):
What was the first one?

Speaker 12 (38:29):
It was Rochester Arts Center? Okay, probably it.

Speaker 14 (38:34):
Was mostly just honestly for like friends and family.

Speaker 11 (38:37):
Yeah, yeah, it was very interesting going from like fifteen
people on our first gig and then it was like
five hundred the next day and you're like, oh, well,
this is where we're at.

Speaker 9 (38:49):
Now, Like yeah, see, that didn't even occur to me
until now. That must have been wild too.

Speaker 12 (38:53):
It was I remember having insane.

Speaker 11 (38:56):
There were a lot of nerves backstage right before on stage,
and I can imagine yeah, yeah, and Mike had to
give us the little coaches speech and be like, this
could be your life for the rest of your lives,
and this could be the breaking point.

Speaker 10 (39:09):
You guys gotta lock in, and I'm like, okay, let's
lock in.

Speaker 9 (39:14):
Yeah, no, I need. It was great. It was excellent,
you know. It's and also too, you know, so to
be in front of a crowd that size so quickly,
and also I mean, you guys don't sound like great White,
so there's always right. I mean, I don't know if
you were nervous about that at all, but I mean
I think I think broadly speaking, people who are fans

(39:34):
of rock music are fans of rock music and like
a lot of different sub genres and so, but so
it's easy to overthink it. But still it must have
been I mean, it had to be in the back
of your minds. Like, this is this crowd gonna like us?

Speaker 2 (39:46):
It was?

Speaker 14 (39:47):
It definitely is almost I think with any show that
we play, regardless of where it is, we always think, like, one,
do we really work well genre wise with other bands
and people gonna like it? Because you know, when you
go from like lighter rock to the metal, it's kind
of like jarring.

Speaker 9 (40:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (40:02):
Yeah, And you know, we've we've had bands that, unfortunately,
we just find it hard to you know, really do
gigs with them because it's like, not only do we
have to pertain to the crowd, but the bands also
have to pertain to us, and we also have to
have compatibility with those bands musically. Yeah, And that evolution
has kind of put a little bit of a stick

(40:24):
in the road where it's like, how many gigs can
we really do for the more older hard rock you
know listening people, Yeah, and you know, but all in
the same time, can we really do that many metal shows?
Because we're not like metalcore or like a thing you know,
very crazy crazy like that. So we kind of fall

(40:45):
into this again, like we had this before, this little
middle ground where we're not exactly metal, but we're not
exactly hard rocks. So now we're trying to even it
out a little bit. But yeah, we make it work.

Speaker 9 (40:56):
Yeah, you know what we do absolutely.

Speaker 13 (40:59):
I mean i'd say that, you know, I think, you know,
we we say, you know, we think about that, but
i'd say that overall, I think we always end up
coming to the same conclusion of we got to be ourselves,
and we always go out there and we you know,
show fully ourselves one hundred and ten percent, and we figure,

(41:20):
you know, if the people like it, they like it,
and if they don't, whatever, they can walk out and
go smoke a tube out in the parking lot or
something like that. But I mean, we've never really had
much of an issue with that. We've played in front
of a bunch of different crowds, you know, whether it
be Great White or Juggalos at the Lethal weekend there,

(41:41):
and it always it always ends up great, and we
always end up you know, meeting new fans, meeting new friends,
and you know, having you know, honestly meeting fans that
we might not have met if we were to you know,
exclusively do shows with like a band that we were
exactly like right, you know, so that we really love doing,

(42:05):
you know as much as you know, sure we might
in the moment be like, oh my god, are they
gonna you know, like this, Are they going to like that?
At the end of the day, we like being ourselves
to show people to you know, hopefully widen the you know,
bring more people in. Music is about you know, speaking
where words can't and including everyone and you know, all

(42:26):
working together to bring some wonderful art out into the world.
So we love, we love doing stuff like that.

Speaker 9 (42:33):
Yeah, yeah, well said, Well, the time goes quickly. So
thank you all three of you for joining us today.
Thank you always wonderful to have you on. I do
want to close out the show with one more song
of yours. I'm going to give you a minute. You
can take a minute to think about it though, because
while you're thinking about that, Jenny, for listeners who don't know,

(42:53):
you showed nothing. You showed up in John Oliver's show
last week to night last weekend.

Speaker 17 (43:01):
So I did with some other people that I have
had the honor and privilege of fighting alongside of for
the last number of years. Yeah, yeah, it was really
exciting to be on John Oliver's show. If you haven't
seen it, it's streaming on YouTube and you can also
find it on Gencoffee dot com. Yes, E N N
C O F f UI dot com. Keep up with
all the good trouble I'm getting into.

Speaker 9 (43:22):
Yeah, so congratulations on that. Thank you, absolutely absolutely, and
I do want to thank everyone who joined us today.
Of course Eric Pilcher and Charles Richardson who were with
us in the second hour, and in the first hour
of course we had Eleanor and Andre. Don't forget tonight
at Terminus Underground. They've got vicesz inc, grim the acronym

(43:44):
and Island of Alaska. That's going to be a great show.
And Jenny, you and I are going to be there
next Saturday on the eighth, on November eighth, We're going
to be a Terminus Underground that night for that show.
But we'll talk about that next week. We will, we will. Yeah,
So lots lots of good stuff going on.

Speaker 10 (43:59):
Thank you for remembering that I'm here.

Speaker 9 (44:01):
Yes, of course, yes, I know. Where's the best place
to go online for people to keep up with everything
under the horizon is doing anywhere dot.

Speaker 11 (44:12):
Org, Facebook, Instagram, literally any social media if you if
you exist on the platform, we exist.

Speaker 12 (44:20):
On your for you page outstands.

Speaker 11 (44:23):
Yeah, you basically just load up any social media if
you use websites.

Speaker 10 (44:28):
Under the horizon dot org. We got all our gigs merch.

Speaker 11 (44:32):
You know, our first album is on there for free
listen and you can go on the Spotify from there
listen to it.

Speaker 10 (44:38):
From there. We got a little news part, you know,
keep us updated.

Speaker 9 (44:44):
Well.

Speaker 10 (44:45):
We have a couple of live shows coming up.

Speaker 9 (44:47):
We do when's the next show? Or mentioned the next
couple if you want.

Speaker 12 (44:50):
To, so the we only got a couple. We got
a couple of shows left for the year. Here.

Speaker 13 (44:55):
The next show we got is next Friday. We're going
to be up at Rumors and Bitterford, Maine, which is
a new venue that we've never played at. Cool, but
we're doing that with our friends Scarecrow Hill Defined Perspective
and Paradise is canceled. The next Friday, on the fourteenth,
we're going to be at the Cannery in Southbridge, Mass

(45:16):
with three Degrees. They're an amazing Maynor James keenan tribute band.
Oh cool, so they do you know tool perfect Circle
plus a furth.

Speaker 12 (45:24):
They're great.

Speaker 13 (45:26):
As we said, the fifteenth, we're going to be right
here in Manchester City at the Jewel Nightclub. Yes, that's
going to be an amazing show there and then sixteenth,
it's not really a show, but we're going to be
going to New England Music Awards because we got nominated
for Metal Act Year.

Speaker 9 (45:45):
Congratulations, excellent, excellent.

Speaker 12 (45:48):
And then for the last show of the year.

Speaker 13 (45:51):
If anyone who's listening is looking for a concert that's
maybe a little bit different than the normal experience, uh,
you can come see us December thirteenth and uh fall River.
We're going to be doing a show with midget wrestling.

Speaker 9 (46:07):
Is this is this with Loud entertainment?

Speaker 13 (46:09):
This is loud, said loud and loud I attain. Yeah,
so we do songs you see midget wrestling, metal and
midget wrestling.

Speaker 12 (46:18):
It's a great night. It's great.

Speaker 13 (46:19):
It's so much fun, so much fun. So check out
those who come see us live. We can't wait to
see you guys in the pit. Outstanding, outstanding. And what
are we going to play to end the show?

Speaker 9 (46:31):
What do you want to go with?

Speaker 14 (46:32):
Under the Horizon?

Speaker 9 (46:33):
Under the Horizon? Very good, very good. We get that
ready and uh yeah, thank you all, Thank you all
again so much, thank you for having us here. Just
waiting for the track to load up. I'm trying downloading
it from uh Google Drive, and it's running a little slow,
which is not because of any particular reason other than

(46:54):
it does that once in a while. But here it
comes okay. There it is under the horizon, under the horizon,
b Hi, under the horizon. To close out this week's
Matt Connor to Unleashed, Thanks everybody.

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