M.A.Y.A. Episode#74: Let_s Talk Fertility with Dr. Aumatma Simmons

Dr. Aumatma Simmons is a distinguished Naturopathic Endocrinologist, recognized for her unique blend of ambition and insight. With nearly two decades of experience in holistic fertility, she has significantly impacted the lives of numerous couples seeking to establish families without recourse to conventional treatments. Dr. Simmons is a prominent figure in her field, having educated hundreds of medical professionals and authored the best-selling book, 'Fertility Secrets: What Your Doctor Didn't Tell You About Baby-Making.' Her influence is extensive and profound, further exemplified by her hosting of the award-winning podcast, "Egg Meets Sperm." Tune in to this episode of M.A.Y.A. and meet the Doctor that is changing the field of fertility and helping to create what once thought impossible lives and families.



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Speaker 3 (02:41):
Now I'm mis stay everyone, welcome to episode seventy four.
We're stacking them for doing good and these last shows
have been amazing. Of course, if Maya my ambition, your ambition.
Of course, you know this podcast is about embracing those
salient topics related to mental wellness. And I'm trying to
bring things from afresh and forward, you know, thinking perspective.

(03:02):
So we like to pull back that veil of self
doubt and sabotage that it plagues every single one of
us at some point in our lives. And I want
you to help to identify those things so you can
reach and go about that ambition that you want to
harness a motivation to heal the satisfaction you want in
your every day life. And episode seventy four, let's talk fertility. Ooh,

(03:24):
people get all kind of skirmish when I say that
let's talk fertility because they somehow equate it to wait,
is this about like biological parts of men and women? Yes,
we're gonna be talking about things like that today. So
everybody put on your big girl and big boy pants,
because we're gonna have adult conversations and have things that
are really important. And our guest today, oh my god,
Doctor Simmons is so amazing. She's not once but twice.

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She's double bird certified as a natural path doctor and
an indult chronologist. She specializes in fertility. But if you
think about that, that's about one of the extensions of
what women health is. So if you are a first
time listener or viewer, welcome. I always say buckle up
for safety, because occasionally it might get unexpectedly bumpy. We
might say something that may make you say hmm. I

(04:07):
love doing that because only my older folks will know
when I say things that make it go hm. Younger
folks go Google see and see music Factory and you'll
probably love the song. But anyways, but I always say,
if you're a returning listener, you know how we do
things here. It's like, you know, forty five fifty minutes
of time that you've carved out for yourself to learn something.
So use the time wisely. Grab your drink of choice,

(04:29):
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so feel glad to have a glass of wine if
you want that, to grab some pencil and paper and
jot down take notes. Because even if this particular podcast
isn't something that can help you, I guarantee somebody in
your life, whether it's a daughter, a granddaughter, a friend,
somebody will probably be able to benefit from the information

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you're gonna learn today. So this is our seventh installment
of the Ambition Show, which I like to say is
kind of an extension of what Maya My ambition your
ambition is because I have literally been talking to people
who are taking their passion and their purpose and they're
taking it forward with their motivation and ambition. So if
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(05:11):
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www dot mayadeshspeaks dot com and all things Maya is there.
There's two things on my web page that I really love.
I have an inspirational blog or once a week only
on Wednesdays, I post something that I really want you

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to take in and reflect that can help you grow
and kind of move you forward and getting to that
best version of yourself. And the other side is something
that's near and dear to me, is you know, is
my menopause blog, which is called Me on Pause because
everyone who listens to my show knows that I am
the poster child for menopause. Like I'm probably about to
break out in the sweat in about five minutes. So

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with that thing said, I love my menopause blog because
I'm sharing so much thing, so many things that I
didn't know, and I like to share it with other women.
I want to recap really quickly. Our last episode seventy three,
we had on Ron Sowers the second and that was
about ADHD and I'm going to tell you a lot
of people got some great information from that. He has
a fantastic self discovery journal as well that could be

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available that you can find on Amazon as well as
on his website. But with that further ado, let's jump
into our next guest, Our seventh guest who is going
to step onto the ambition stage Doctor Atma Simmons. She
is so amazing. I'm telling you, I was so taken
with her. I started her reading her articles, and I'm

(07:02):
going to say, the things that I have learned has
been amazing. To the point where I start referring a
lot of the people that I actually have in therapy
that are dealing with some things that are women health
or fertility related. I said, I have someone that you
really need to check out because there's a lot of
great information here. When I said earlier, she is a
double bored, suttified natural pathic doctor. She's an incocnologist. She's

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been in practice for more than fifteen years. Yes, she
specializes in fertility, but remember I said, that's also an
overarching part of what women's health is. But if that
isn't enough, she's also a best selling author of now
one book, but two books. She likes to do things
in twos if you haven't noticed. Her one book is
Fertility Secrets, What Your Doctor Didn't tell you, and I'm

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going to tell you that part I honestly believe is
very true because I think about all the things I
have learned that my doctor didn't tell me. So that
book alone about fertility Secrets, I gary, I know there's
going to be so many amazing things in there. And
the second book is called Infertility Struggles, Secrets and Success,
And the key thing about that that's a collaboration with
other women that are debated to women's health and fertility.

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And of course it wouldn't be enough if she didn't
have a podcast, So she has egg everyone get ready
meats sperm because fertility takes two. So she also has
a podcast on Spotify and Apple Podcast. So with all
that being said, without further ado, let's bring on our
next guest to the ambition stage, Doctor Simmons.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
Thank you for having me, Maya. That's such a sweet introduction.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Oh I have just you know what. I have been
smitten and girl crushing on you for a minute. We
had me and I myself, my Riley, and I my
associated producer when we met you. We just talked and
went over so much stuff. And I really like dug
Indep because I really do have a passion for women's health,
and even though what I may look at might be
a little bit more focused on menopause, I do believe

(08:56):
this conversation here is so important about fertility because I
have a lot of younger patients that are struggling with
women health and fertility issues and they really don't know
what to do. So when I met you, I was like, Oh,
this is fantastic because you are just such. You're the expert,
you are the authority, you just are amazing. So with

(09:16):
that being said, you are double board certified. Tell us
your journey how you know, Let's be honest, most people
when they hear like that someone's a naturopathic doctor, they
think it's hocus pocus magic because it's not Western medicine.
But I personally, I'm an advocate because that has been
the doctors I've worked with that have been life changing
for me. So tell us about your journey how you've

(09:38):
got to, you know, become a natural pathic doctor. But
what got you into fertility as well?

Speaker 4 (09:43):
Oh? So many, so many stories. Honestly, So, I grew
up as a East Indian child that was basically destined
to become a doctor, right, Like, I didn't have a
choice about it. My parents, from a very young age
were like, you could be a doctor. You and me
a doctor. Of course you can be a doctor. You
get me a doctor. And so I get to I

(10:06):
like flew through high school, get to college, majoring in
pre med biology and hating every second of it. And
I was like, I cannot do this for another four
eight ten years, like this is just not what I
want to do. And so I'm going through undergrad just

(10:28):
kind of figuring out like, Okay, I don't really love biology.
I don't love my science science y classes. I do
love religion, and I love psychology. And several times I
tried to change my major to psychology and my parents
were like, absolutely not, we will disown you if you
do that. And I was like, oh crap, why. And

(10:52):
I've realized since then that it's like a major taboo
from like from their mindset. It's a taboo to go
to a psychologist, to need a psychiatrist, like all of
the things. So I'm going through I'm like a month
from graduation from undergrad and feeling very lost because I

(11:15):
was like, I don't want to go to medical school
and I can't work in a lab that's not really
what I want to do. What am I going to
do with my life? And I'm visiting my parents at
their house and I went to go get the mail
from the mailbox and what do I see? Like it's
a pamphlet that it basically says Mind Body Spirit on

(11:36):
the cover. And I was like, oh my god, this
is it, this is it, this is it. Like I've
been asking my professors, nobody can tell me anything. They're like,
you're a hippie, just go live in California. I was like,
I really want to know how to integrate psychology, religion

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and body stuff. So Body Mind Spaar really spoke to
me and within five minutes, I was like, this is
what I'm doing with my life. I'm going to go
to naturopathic medical school and yeah, so that was kind
of how I got into naturopathic medicine. I graduated. I

(12:18):
did that for I was practicing for five years and
simultaneously married to this guy who I had been with
for a very long time, and he wanted to start
having children and I was like no, Like literally every
time you talk about babies, my uterus was like no.

(12:39):
And I was like, ohra what And I was like,
I think I made a really wrong decision somewhere along
the way because I didn't think about it, like before
he started talking about it. It wasn't on my radar
where whether I wanted to have children, whether I wanted
to have them now, whether it was him that was

(13:03):
the issue. So it took me a while to like
kind of filter through my emotions about this, and I
got to the point where I realized that it was
him that I did want to have children, but not
with him, And I was like, oh crap, that means
a divorce, finding a new partner, and eventually hopefully being

(13:24):
able to have a child, and all of that on
a clock that's about to run out really soon. Because
of course, what I learned in medical school was your
fertility drops off of a cliff at thirty five. So
as I was going through this, I was like, do
I just have a child with him? Just because, like,

(13:46):
just get it done and then I have child, And literally,
like all parts of my body were like absolutely not,
there's no way. My hormones were so out of whack.
I was exhausted, burnt out. I was literally like in
writhing pain with every single menstrual cycle, and like, now

(14:10):
I have a very different viewpoint on this, But in
the moment, I didn't realize that it was all connected
to this fertility thing. But now looking back at it,
I'm like, oh, my body was telling me that this
was the wrong person from the beginning. Like when we
started our relationship, I had horridus menstrual cycles, I didn't

(14:30):
feel well. It was all of the signs were pointing
that it was not the right person for me to
be with. Yet here I was seven years into this
relationship and I decided, Okay, I'm going to get a
divorce and I'm going to figure out what I can
do for my fertility. And that was really the beginning

(14:55):
because as I was learning things, I was kind of
like questioning a lot of the stuff that I had
been taught. And my friends were suddenly like, oh, you
can help me get pregnant, and I'm like, no, that's
not the plan, and they were like, no, really, we
need help with this, and I was like, really, people

(15:15):
need help with fertility. Like I was very oblivious to
what an issue this is, the fact that like so
many people were struggling, And the more that I talked
about fertility, the more people would come up to me
in private, not open to having public conversations, but in private, like,

(15:35):
oh my god, can you give me some tips or
what can I do? I've been trying for a really
long time. It's not working. So I just started seeing
like what a big problem it was, and we hadn't
we hadn't necessarily like learned a ton in school about it.
So I got lots of more education to try and

(16:00):
help the people that were struggling with this issue. So
that's kind of how I got into fertility. And I've
been in it for fourteen years something like that. So
when I started, there were four of us naturopathic doctors
that specialize in fertility. There were four in the entire country,

(16:22):
in the entire country. Yeah, yeah, and now there's there's
a lot more, but probably not that many, like not
a ton, right, Like you have to really look to
find a naturopathic doctor that specializes in fertility. And I
think a lot of a lot of doctors specialize in

(16:43):
women's health, which is a good, like overarching thing, but
I think fertility is a beast all on its own.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
And yes, yeah, I can honestly say I have known one, two, three,
like four people that you had used IVF in order
to conceive, and as I was, you know, doing my
research and reading things and learning more, once I met you,
it's interesting. I was like, wait a minute, everything that

(17:12):
you're doing to me is like the precursor to IVF,
because I feel like if you're doing all these things
before you do IVF, which means maybe you won't even
need it, it sets you up to have a better pregnancy,
especially if you were struggling. So when someone is like
struggling to pretty much conceive, or do people even come

(17:33):
to you and say, I know, down the road, I
want to have children, but I already know I have
issues like pcos or indrometosis or things like that. Is
there something I can do that's going to make my
ability to have children more likely to have them than not?
Kind of how do you approach this with people?

Speaker 4 (17:53):
Yeah? I so, I wish there were more people that
would come to me earlier. Right Like most when men
who have enemytrios or pcos are going to go to
their obi and going to be put on birth control
and that is their solution for enemetriosis and pcos and

(18:14):
even vibraids, sometimes it's just like, well, just take the
birth control pill, You're fine. Uh. And I think that
if I saw many more of those people, we would
be able to help help set up their hormones so
that they don't even need birth control, but when it
comes time for their fertility that it be a lot easier. Unfortunately,

(18:39):
they don't usually come. There are a few, but not
not by any means at the scale at which the
problems exist, right, So that's unfortunate. With the people that
we do see, they will come, usually they've struggled for

(18:59):
quite some time. We see a lot of people on
the flip side of IVF, so they've been through three
to six IVF cycles and then they're like, Hey, something
is really wrong because IVF was supposed to work. And
I literally like mortgaged a whole house to be able
to afford IVF. Yes, and I'm still not pregnant. I

(19:21):
still don't have the baby. What do I do? So
we will see kind of the scale of all of
the the you know, along the journey, some everywhere, everything
from like one year of trying all the way up
to like twelve years of trying.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
And I think it's at least a couple of people
that I know that definitely chose to go the route
of IVF because they were struggling to conceive on their own. Yes,
the cost is so expensive, which means for some people
legitimately it may never be an option because it's not
This is not something that's affordable and there is actually
no necessary guarantee that it's going to work. But something

(20:04):
that I recently learned and when I was reading through
your stuff, you know, and I saw about hormone imbalances.
So I want to start with that because I had
a person I was working with in therapy, and she
when she was younger, in her early twenties, she had
her oldest daughter naturally, and then her other two children
had to be through IVF. Do you know what she
came to learn as she was in the IVF process,

(20:27):
And I thought, this is something that I believe would
probably be so common but never checked for. It turns
out that she was naturally has low estrogen and she
never knew that and did not find that out, believe
it or not, until she stepped into trying to do
the IVF and then they began to address it, and

(20:47):
that obviously helped with the process. How does hormone imbalance
play into this.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
Hormonderbalances are crucial to being a US as part of
the fertility journey because if what your hormones are doing
are basically they're signaling something else in your body to
do something right. So, for example, the brain has a

(21:16):
hormone called TSH that signals the thyroid to produce thyroid hormone.
The brain signals the ovary twice a month, once to
produce the follicle and the second time to ovulate or
release that follicle out of the ovary. So the hormonal

(21:37):
system is really just a signaling mechanism for communication between
different parts of the body to happen and to regulate
whatever needs to happen. So if your hormones are out
of whack, that really is saying hey, something is going on.

(21:58):
That is in effect actively communicating with something else. For example,
another example, your blood sugar is regulated by a hormone
called insulin from the pancreas an insulin. Actually, the receptors
for insulin exist in lots of parts of the body

(22:21):
and what they do is basically insulin binds and it
opens up the cell walls to absorb or allows sugar
into the cell. The ovaries are interestingly affected by insulin.
So if you have this dysregulation of insulin, what ends

(22:43):
up happening in the fertility cycle is an ovulation. So
a lot of people with these insulin resistance type things
where the insulin binds but the cell doesn't actually do
what it's supposed to do. That is often correlated to
PCOS and and ovulation and ovulatory cycles. So we have

(23:07):
all of these. We have so many hormones in our body,
and all of the hormones are signaling things that are happening.
And estrogen, I think is honestly like it should be
paid more attention to in my opinion, And we find
that with estrogen in particular, if you if your estrogen

(23:34):
doesn't actually produce and build like it should, then the
ovulation surge becomes really challenging or delayed, or sometimes just
doesn't happen. And if that ovulation surge doesn't happen, you
don't ovulate, so then getting pregnant just becomes almost impossible.

(23:55):
And just like your lady, I had a thirty nine
year old old with very very low estrogen and she
had been through four different IVF cycles, three different doctors.
She was basically like her hormones were good outside of

(24:16):
the estrogen, and I'm looking at her hormones and saying, wow,
your estra dial is a nine. That is that's literally
the lowest I've ever seen. And I so I'm like
asking her all these questions like what did your doctors do,
what were the cycles, like what happened with the retrievals?

(24:39):
And she's like, well, they don't get any eggs for me,
or if they get eggs are not good quality, and
pretty much every IVF cycle had failed for her. She
was like, is there something you can do? And I said, well,
has your estrogen always been this level? And she's like, oh, yeah,

(25:00):
it's always been around like below ten for sure. And
I was like, oh, well that's why you're not getting pregnant.
And she was like what and she's like is that low?
I'm like, yeah, nobody told you that, and she's like, no,
no one has had that conversation with me, and you like,

(25:23):
that level of estrogen is common in menopause, right. So
she had baggy skin, her like spots on her face,
just all all the things that you would expect in
like a fifty five sixty year old woman is what
she was expressing with vaginal trainus. She had vaginal microbiome dyspiosis,

(25:46):
which is basically like all these bugs that shouldn't be
in your vagina or present. So she had a lot
of things all from the fact that her body didn't
make enough estrogen. And within like four months of supporting
her body to produce its own estrogen, her skin is

(26:07):
like tightened up. She's like, I feel amazing, I have
a sex drive. I'm like having cervical mukis for the
first time in like years. What's going on? And she
is like literally like complete transformation for her health overall, right,

(26:27):
like forget pregnancy or not, but her her body just
like revived from the inside out. And that's the potential
for estrogen, right, Like we need it so much.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
So here it is. Now you've got people's mental juices flowing. Here.
We have a listener who has a question, Oh yeah,
I need to protect your estrogen levels because you know,
as women, everyone talks about estrogen, they make the assumption
if you're young, that your levels should I actually be okay,
and you just said something that I was like okay.
She naturally kind of raised her level. So even though

(27:05):
we're not talking menopause. You know, all my menopausal women
just went well, well, well, what maybe can I do to
kind of, like, you know, boost this up a little
bit since I know naturally I'm dropping, So tell us
more about these estrogen levels and okay.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
So what can we do naturally? I think it's slightly
different in cycling women versus not in cycling women. So
for menopause it becomes a little trickier because the as
your ovaries kind of stop producing follicles, the follicles are

(27:40):
actually what is producing estrogen in a cycling female. So
the brain signals fsh the follicle stimulating hormone. That hormone
signals the production of follicles. You get like fifteen follicles
per cycle that are being produced, and as they grow,

(28:01):
they're essentially building the level of estrogen. And then that
estrogen feedback loops back to the brain to say, hey,
we have plenty of fallic goals. They're all growing, and
the brain goes, oh, okay, ding ding ding, time to
ovulate and sends a different signal to ovulate. So in
cycling women, this the natural flow of estrogen is actually

(28:28):
supported by making sure that the brain is signaling the
ovary adequately with the FSH and that the woman is
producing follicles. So sometimes like the ovaries are non responsive
even if the brain is giving the signal, the ovaries

(28:50):
are like do I have to? I can't I just
hang out? Do I really need to? So getting for
her it was gating that follicle stimulating hormone to do
its action on the ovary and get the ovary to respond.
And there's one herb that I love. I haven't looked

(29:12):
at research for menopause. So for all the postpart you know,
post cycling women, I don't know if it will work
for you, But for cycling women, shatavari, which is the
herb that we and we will use it in microdoses
because I kid you not, it like crams up estrogen

(29:35):
so fast it is. It's like a super potent herb
that will have impact on the ovaries to help help
those follicles develop. And then the more the follicles develop,
the more estrogen. What I will say, And I've been
thinking about this quite a lot because perimenopause and menopause

(29:57):
have become the conversation right now. So what I have
been considering is when we support fertility and when we
do that fertility process in a way that's like, how
do I nourish my hormones? How do I nourish my

(30:17):
body to the point where I have enough hormonal signaling
to support the long term factors that are needed to
get pregnant. When we do that, I truly believe that

(30:39):
you actually like prolong perimenopause and menopause. And I was
talking to one of my colleagues about this because she's
very similar in her mindset, and she was like, Oh,
I'm forty eight and I have zero perimenopause symptoms, none.
And I was like, yeah, I'm forty five. I don't either.

(31:01):
Are we weird? Like is this a weird thing?

Speaker 3 (31:04):
And what?

Speaker 4 (31:06):
As we were talking, we were like, yeah, you know,
like we're paying so much attention to our hormones because
we're fertility people and we are and both of us
tend to live what we preach, so we are just like,
my plan is one day to wake up and be

(31:28):
in menopause and not have all of the fluctuations of
hormones that perimenopause is. And I'm pretty much done with
that phase right, Like thirty five to forty five is
perimenopause for most women, and the fact that I haven't
had a hot flash or night sweats or literally no, none, none.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
That's well, you know, that is absolutely you know what,
may the universe keep blessing you. It's interesting you say
that because I'm fifty three and what I know.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
By the way, thank you. I can't believe it.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
What I noticed and I do think there may be
is this maybe shift and the idea of even because
I'm perimenopausal, I'm actually not menopause. So you know what,
shame on me because this is what I'm doing my
doctrine on and I should be talking about this better.
Menopause is the you haven't had a cycle for more
than a year. You're shutting down, You're done, whereas perimenopause
is the you're in the process of your levels dropping.

(32:31):
You still can have a cycle. It may become you know,
you may miss months, it could be heavier on months,
you know, things like that. Then comes the hot flashes.
My focus is the mental health piece, because what most
people don't attribute to any form of being perimenopausal or
menopausal is that memory can get so bad you might
think you're early Alzheimer's or something because your memory can

(32:54):
be you can like, walk in the kitchen five times.
I asked the point where I was like, I'm as
putting posted notes on my cats because I've walked in
the kitchen a couple times and can't remember why I'm
in here. So Ever one becomes impacted your mood. Depression
can set in irritability. These two things that most people
have never associated with going through the process of, you know,

(33:15):
transitioning into menopause. So the thing I noticed is at
forty three, the first symptom I had, because there's actually
thirty six symptoms that are related to going through the transition.
Sleep was the first thing that changed for me. At
forty three. I could no longer sleep through the night.
I would wake up one, two, three times. That was

(33:36):
the first piece. At forty five, the symptom that popped
up for me was definitely my mood. I became more irritable,
I developed depression. And these were all things that I
never struggled with in anxiety. As I said, I'm a
poster child. I was still having a cycle. It wasn't
until roughly honestly until fifty that my cycle began to

(33:56):
fluctuate mm HM. So I'm like, you guys are so
lucky that it hasn't even knocked on your door. You
probably shouldn't have said anything. I'm also a gnome is
probably knocking on your door right now. You think you're
getting out of here with that a symptom. But that's
interesting because I now think I know women that are

(34:18):
fifty eight that still have a cycle.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
Mm hmm. Yeah, and they're mad, and they're mad, they're
mad about it.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
Oh, we got another question. Like I said, you've got
people thinking. So someone is like, is there a way
to know you have low estrogen, especially if you're a
younger person, because remember you don't think you should have
low estrogen if you know under forty, and physicians would
never often consider that when women maybe go in complaining
about irregular cycles and things like that.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
Yeah, so there's several ways to monitor your hormones. And
I think that this test is worth doing once a
year and your doctor won't order it, which is fsh
lh Estra dial and product sorry and amh. If you

(35:12):
are cycling as a female, you being able to have
a checkpoint for all of your hormones once a year
just to see, like what's happening, right, and what you
are looking for is estra dial. Actually, sorry, I'll backtrack.
All of these hormones should be tested on cycle day

(35:35):
three because that is the low point of all of
the hormones. So that's where you get a baseline. So
you want to get them tested. You can do it
in blood. It's not necessary to do fancy tests these.
You can usually like get these paid out of pocket,
like maybe one hundred and fifty dollars, maybe a little

(35:57):
bit less if you if you take off the age,
it's like ninety something. So you can do that set
of hormones on cycle day three every single year to
just get a sense of where is my estrogen usually,
and if that estra dial is optimal for fertility is

(36:19):
between forty and fifty. I think that's also optimal for
general health and wellbeing. So that's the good point. And
then if you are below that, it's probably too low.
And nine is definitely way, way way too low.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
Yeah, yeah, okay, And that's good to know, Like I said,
because I find more and more people are like, since estrogen,
you know, everything can start trending. It becomes the hot topic.
So I think people are thinking more about it because
of there's a big push to talk about or sell
things for like perimenopause and menopause. So I do believe
that's why the estrogen conversations on the table. But something

(36:57):
else I've encountered. I always look at their trends like
I always feel like there's more people in the world
that have been diagnosed with ADHD than I've ever than
I've ever heard before.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Also now have met quite a few younger women, and
I know and I've found out some of my older
clients have been diagnosed with PCOS. Most people are not
familiar with that is, they don't understand why they actually
have it. Can you shed the light on what what
is pcos?

Speaker 4 (37:22):
PCOS is a misnamed diagnoses which basically is polycystic ovarian syndrome.
So from the name, we would assume that you have
cysts on your ovaries. This is unfortunately not always true
and this is why, like so many people miss the
diagnosis because they're looking for cysts on the ovaries, they

(37:45):
don't see it. The doctor is like, yeah, you're good,
you don't have polycystic ovarian syndrome. Unfortunately, the technical diagnosis
of polycystic ovarian syndrome also is you can have testosterone
like high testosterone, high testosterone metabolites. You can have insulin
resistance which I mentioned a little earlier. Uh, and then

(38:09):
uh inflammation. So there it's really a syndrome. And then
there's a bunch of things happening simultaneously. But I think
that you know it. We see that it exists for
a lot more people than then. They are diagnosed with
more frequently than not. So having the work up is

(38:34):
really important. Is it okay? If I I feel like
I have a few threads that are still going from before,
can I jump into that just for a second.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
Yeah, we go with the flow here.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
So yes, there are so estrogen. I want to go
back to it because it's such a I feel like
it's it's the hormone that just doesn't get enough light
shed on it protecting our estrogen levels. The biggest thing
that we need to be aware of is that there

(39:06):
are estrogen killers, and estrogen killers are essentially plastic. So
everywhere you find plastic, those compounds called BPA, this phenol,
A bisphenol SF, there's a whole bunch of them. All
the all compounds are estrogen mimickers. So you ingest something

(39:29):
with plastic or you absorb it from your skin, which literally,
if you wear plastic on your body, which all of
us do, it's almost impossible to find natural fabric clothing.
You have to go like way out of your way
to find it. So all of the non natural fabric

(39:52):
clothing is polyester, which is plastic, and you're absorbing it
in from your skin. That will fool your body into
thinking that it has too much estrogen. So all of
these BPA compounds go and bind to receptors that are

(40:14):
made for estrogen, but they don't actually support the body
to do what that estrogen would do. So now your
body stops making estrogen because it's like, well, all the
receptors are full, we're good, but the fake estrogens are
not actually having the action that they should in your body.

(40:36):
So I think when we talk about like what can
we do to protect our natural estrogen production, that has
to be the first and foremost thing. And then there
was another thing that I wanted to comment on that
you said, which is your sleep when you started perimenopause

(40:57):
was the first thing to decline. And there's actually a
ton of research that basically is melatonin is probably the
crucial hormone that is regulating our entry into perimenopause, which
is crazy because melotonin has nothing to do supposedly with

(41:19):
our ovarias. However, melatonin and I love melatonin. It is
one of the hormones that I talk about the most
in the fertility world because regulating our circadian rhythm, meaning
the production of critisol and melatonin morning and night, that

(41:39):
is the foundation for the infrateian rhythm, which is the
rhythm of our female cycle hormones. So if our core
foundational rhythm is out of whack, we're too stressed, we
are doing too much, got the rushing woman syndrome. We've

(42:03):
like just overly overly on the do doo dooo, And
simultaneously we don't have enough of a signal for melatonin,
or that melatonin is getting shut down because we're exposed
to blue light at night. We're not turning to more

(42:25):
red lighted things at bedtime or the few hours before bed.
So really, like being in sync with sunset and like
shifting out of our blue light to red light at
night is really what regulates the production of melatonin in
the body. And if we're not doing that, we don't

(42:46):
have a good healthy circadian rhythm. It's going to be
really hard to keep our healthy in Freydian rhythm, and
a lot of things are based off of that. So
fertility is definitely based off of that, and I would
say that most people don't prioritize it enough, but it

(43:07):
is probably one of the first things that we work
on and the thing that we like hammer into our
clients the most because then we like, oh, but I'm fine,
I sleep four hours a night, and I'm like, yeah,
that's not going to work. Nobody's not being pregnant, Like,
it's just not going to happen.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
That is that the Freddie you talked about with women.
I've never heard that piece before and it's interesting. One
of the things we talk about when I work with
clients is what's your sleep hygiene like? And when you
talk about blue light, which is so it's so amenmeshed
in our lives now because cell phones and computers were
constantly in front of it that I don't think people

(43:47):
realize you have your brain and go mode. And one
of the things we talk about when we're trying to
work with people who struggle with sleep is you need
to really evaluate your sleep hygiene which is no TV,
no phone, none of those, no blue light at least
an hour before you go to bed. Try to do
something you say, I say this word to people and
they swear I said a dirty word. I say meditate

(44:08):
before bed. You say meditate, people think it's a dirty
word because it's like for people to sit down and
want to quiet their mind to prepare for sleep is
something that one our society does not encourage people to do.
That's probably the biggest thing. But when you just said
about the meltonin piece one, I have never taken melotonin
to assume that that would be the thing that could
help me regulate my sleep. It has gotten better over time.

(44:32):
But that's interesting because now that gives me one more
thing that I'm going to go research to learn more about.
But you did it again because now someone has a
question and they said, how can they find out what
their individual sleep cycle should be in order to keep
rhythm right? So is there an ideal amount of sleep
those kind of things that they should keep in mind.

Speaker 4 (44:54):
I think the I think there's probably less individualization needed
for the sleep cycle. So on a very foundational level,
you wake up with the sun, you go to bed
with the sun right, So sunrise and sunset you kind
of live your life in that rhythm. Now, of course

(45:15):
I don't do that, and I think most people would
be like, what are you crazy. So it is when
you wake up, within the first thirty minutes of waking,
you want to get sunlight onto your eyeballs and ideally
that's natural sunlight. So if you wake up when the

(45:37):
sun is up, then your gut. If you wake up
earlier than that, which a lot of our clients are
like nurses and have to get to work before five
o'clock in the morning or whatever. So if that's you,
then the alternate is that you get kind of a
full spectrum, healthy light bulb that you can hang up

(46:00):
above your head. So the main thing is that you're
you need to mimic the sun, right, So having it
in front of you does not work. You have to
have it coming from above you and kind of like
hitting your eyes sort of like the sun would. So
you're trying to mimic it as much as you can.
And there's some company that makes these glasses you can

(46:24):
wear that just like hit your eyeballs. So if you're like, oh,
I have to be on the go and I have
to get out of the house. You can like wear
these glasses while you're driving, so you can There's all
these hacks that you can do, but essentially you're mimicking
sunlight in the morning. Ideally, you get another dose of
small amount of sunlight in the daytime and that tells

(46:46):
your brain like, hey, we're still it's still daytime. And
then maybe you get another dose of the setting sun
which tells your brain, hey, time to shift to melatonin.
And if you don't, which like I don't get out
three times a day, right, Like, I'm in front of
a computer all day. So what I tend to do

(47:08):
is at about sunset is when I want to start
wearing my blue light filter glasses, and that essentially filters
the blue light so that it mimics tells my brain, hey,
time to produce melatonin and helps to regulate that cycle.
The other thing that I tell a lot of people

(47:30):
is some people will be like, I work perfectly fine
on four hours of sleep, and I'm like, okay, I
understand you. And for the period of healing your fertility,
you're going to sleep for eight hours minimum. Ideally you're
going to sleep for nine or ten hours minimum because
especially as women. Sleep is the foundation for everything that

(47:56):
our body is doing, and getting your body to predu
use its own Melatonin is the best antioxidant that you
can give your ovaries. So everyone comes to me with this,
like what can I do for equality? I'm like, get
some God dance? Like what I'm like? Melatonin is this

(48:20):
magical hormone that nourishes your ovariase, that feeds your eggs. Wow,
that is literally like keep your ovaries healthy and plush
and nice. It's melotonin. So do that and then of
course you can supplement if you if you need or
want to. So supplementation is great. I think in perimenopause,

(48:43):
supplementation is essential because it helps eliminate so many of
these other symptoms that people are getting.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
You know, it's interesting you talked about like the blue
light glasses, because I always feel like, are you trying
to get some more money out of me? Because enough
I start wearing glasses at forty five. You know, you
go to get glasses, they're like, oh do you want
you know this kind of lens my focals and blue
light and you see that and you kind of think,
really blue light glasses. But now that you say it.

(49:12):
They really do serve a purpose.

Speaker 4 (49:15):
Yeah, in the long run, it's for all the people
out there that are like me, that maybe are like,
but I really want to watch my TV at night. Okay,
do it with some blue light filter glasses.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
You know that this could be one hundred percent legitimate
opposed to something somebody else is trying to upsell you
when you know you go to get your glasses. Okay.
So sleep is important in this obviously. You know, let's
talk about diet because one of the things we talk
about in mental health is gut health is directly related
to mental health and getting people to even begin to

(49:50):
grasp that, they're like, well, what does that mean? It's like,
think about it. If you don't have a healthy diet,
if you're filling your body with toxins and never kind
of purging them out, well where do you think that
it all goes? And by the way, the plastic thing
you mentioned is so interesting because about twenty years ago
and it came to fruition, I met this guy who

(50:10):
was working on a plant based bottle for like water,
and he was partnering with a couple of water companies
and actually his bottle is out there, so now there
are plant based bottles. Off the top of my head,
I can't remember which two water companies use them now,
mind you. Which you're been to notice is they're way softer,
like they bend like you know, it's like you could

(50:31):
crush them in between your hands, like they're so they're
much thinner. But there is now I'm noticing. But that's
the only place I've seen it has been with bottle water.
I have not seen the plant based bottles anywhere else
at this point.

Speaker 4 (50:43):
Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. I don't think I have noticed
or looked for it, so thank you for that. I
think I will I will check it out. But in general,
like if you can filter your own water at home,
fill it in a glass or stainless steel or whatever,

(51:04):
carry it with you. I don't have it right now,
but I have like a fifty ounce bottle. It's huge,
carry it everywhere, right, that's kind of the way to go,
and then you have your own water wherever you are,
and you're not worried about like, oh am I getting
enough water? Is this the right kind? Is it filtered?

(51:25):
Is it rightstic?

Speaker 3 (51:27):
But everything else in our life, because plastic is a
part of our life it's like you can't get away
from it. Its packages everything, So what is it if
a person wants to be more conscious and just trying
to make that shift. Yes, you're right, because that's pretty
much what I do with my water. I have stainless steel, yeah,
conas that I have. But you know, most things you
buy often will come in plastic unless it's get away

(51:49):
from buying things that are in plastic, which is kind
of hard, but I guess it's possible to do.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
Yeah, it is, It's it's hard in specific environments. So
like if you go to Trader Joe's, even your vegetables
are wrapped in plastic, I'm like, why just put them out?
Like why do I need this in plastic? So I
resist buying stuff that has plastic like packaging. Now you're

(52:19):
gonna get There's there's like a varying amount of plastic
based on how it's being exposed, in the sense that
if you are if you have a plastic takeout container
with hot food in it, that's a way bigger problem
than the saran wrap that's around your zucchini at Trader

(52:41):
jos Right, so you can pick your poison. I say,
as much as possible you're avoiding exposure, so you're not
going to get rid of it completely. It's almost impossible,
but you can get to a point where, Okay, I
cook most of my food I buy, maybe I buy

(53:01):
at the farmer's market and have my own bag, and
when I cook my food, I store it in glass containers.
You're good, right, Like you have done as much as
possible to move that spectrum towards less plastic, and then
one day we're gonna have fashion companies that make things

(53:24):
for women that are caught in linen. Anything about plastic
and polyester doesn't exist like this. I had to like
really look hard for and I have like three things
that are non polyester, right, And it's it's frustrating for
me because I'm like, women's clothes are so expensive. Yeah,

(53:47):
everyone is about that like throw it away where it
once throw it away, the fast fashion thing, and it's
it's like challenging for me to find things that are
fashion noble that are not polyester. So I struggle with that.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
Still, it sounds like you should have your own clothing
line at this point.

Speaker 4 (54:12):
I want to like your fashion sense, so you.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
Know, it sounds like somebody needs to come up with.

Speaker 4 (54:19):
This really big market that I think to step into,
like and please don't give me like hot and T shirts,
Like I'm not gonna wear a T shirt. I'm sorry, No,
Like like, yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
You know it can be it can be done. And
you just said something that I'm instantly going to rethink
the way I do things. So I go shopping at
some of the stores where literally I am I'm going
to say it, I am a bona fide lover of Aldi.
I don't know if you have that where you live. Oh, yeah,
we do love Aldi. But the thing I like about Aldi,
which is actually a German based company. They own Trader

(54:53):
Joe's by the way. Oh you can choose to walk
over and pick up stuff that's wrapped in plastic, but
they have a lot of their produce that's open. So
I feel like what I'm going to now focus on
is I use reusable bags already, which are plastic. Now
I have to go get some new bags. But I'm
gonna find a way to figure that out. I guess
I'll go get a basket. I don't know, but I'm

(55:13):
now going to focus on buying my produce and fruit
and everything free and not like no bags of apples.
Just now you said it, there are some things that
we can do that could help to do that. And
then you made me think about the times that I
was I've always been abroad, and I used to remember
visiting my dad and I'd say, this is so annoying.

(55:33):
Like everything there was the butcher, the baker, the candlestick maker, right,
you know, you'd walk in and you'd go buy your
you know, your your groceries for only two to three days.
And the milk was like in bottles, and nobody had
big refrigerators and nobody had a freezer. And now that
I think about it, one a much more healthier lifestyle.
That they were buying foods in smaller increments, so they

(55:56):
used them and they would go back to the store
every two or three days, but everything was relatively fresh.
And now I'm looking at well, clearly they knew something
that we just decided to not do anymore. Yeah, but
that's interesting.

Speaker 4 (56:11):
Yeah, And I say this a lot. It's like every
time we get a convenience, we lose something. We are
sacrificing something every time we get an added convenience. And
trust me, like I'm not above it, right, Like I
still shop at Costco and buy the big old bag
of frozen vegetables because it's easy. It's easy, And like

(56:36):
I make exceptions for things because we can't get away
from it. We're not going to get away from it anyway.
So where is it the most important? Right? And I
would say the top tier thing that if you're thinking
about plastic is exposure to heat. Every time plastic is
exposed to heat, it makes it twenty five times worse.

(56:59):
So you can think about it even in terms of clothing, right, Like,
if you're going to the gym, you're better off wearing
cotton yoga pants rather than the polyester ones because you're
gonna sweat in them. So the places where you're going
to expose to heat, vegetables that are being cooked, do
not put those in plastic. Right. And I have this

(57:23):
war with my husband who's like he will make all
the food for the week, pack it into glass containers,
but then he'll go and like put the plastic lid
on it and stick it in the fridge, and I'm like, ah,
like just leave it on the counter. I'll take care
of it. Like I wanted to cool off before I
put the lids on, so that plastic doesn't get exposed

(57:45):
and seep into the food.

Speaker 3 (57:47):
But it's interesting you say that because if you think
about it, you buy like some frozen stuff and say
a lot of stuff that you can cook it all
they're microwave most of the time, a lot of microwave
of stuff, especially plastic. You know, it's like little containers,
so it's everywhere. But he really said something I think
that we have to think about. For every convenience you get,

(58:08):
you're giving something up. So for the fact that we
love our cell phones, we love our computer and our tablets,
it's an increase in blue light. And now we can
see that increase in blue light, which I believe and
research is coming is going to speak to why so
many more people have anxiety because we have our brains
wired like all day long for the moment that we
that we wake up. And it's interesting just kind of

(58:29):
changing those habits. So wow, I would have I knew
that this fertility was a rabbit hole, but I did
not realize how deep and how many things legitimately played
into it. So let me ask you a question about
your book, because when I read the title, I was like, yes,
you know so many things. Your doctors don't tell you
what made you choose that to be the title of

(58:54):
that book.

Speaker 4 (58:56):
Uh, it was mostly the publisher. But but when like,
a lot of what I cover in the book are
things that still I feel like doctors are not talking about.
And like, I'll give you the couple of myths that
I try to debunk every single day. One is that

(59:17):
your fertility is not dropping off of a cliff at
thirty five. And for me, that was a big one
because like, as part of my story, I was trying
to decide whether I was going to leave this man
or not, and I would not have been able to
leave him and not have a child knowing that I
wanted to have a child if I didn't get to

(59:40):
the point of like, oh, thirty five is not the end,
Like I'm going to be okay. And as soon as
I had that reassurance, I was like, oh, peace out, dude,
We're done. So that was a really big one for me.
And that myth actually comes from eighteen hundred sprand churches,

(01:00:00):
not science, that have records of women not coming to
baptize their children after the age of thirty five. So
since the eighteen hundreds, we have created this belief in
our society that fertility dies at thirty five. Women in
eighteen hundreds France were average life expectancy was thirty two

(01:00:22):
point eight and they were literally dying in childbirths. So
I'm like, really, people like we still are carrying around
this belief from the eighteen hundreds, Like we're not in
the eighteen hundreds, so that that myth is like over
and done with for me. The second one is around IVF,

(01:00:45):
and the myth around IVF is that so many people
are made to believe that they're going to walk into
the clinic, they're going to do one IVF cycle, and
they're going to have a baby at the end of it.
And the reality is IVF success rates are at best
thirty five percent, and that's when you're under the age

(01:01:06):
of thirty five. At worse, by the time you're forty two,
that success rate has gone down to two percent, So
you have a two percent chance that you are going
to have a healthy baby at the end of an
IVF cycle. And what makes this even worse is that

(01:01:28):
the statistics are based on not one, but six IVF cycles,
so the doctors are expecting you to go through at
least six IVF cycles. Before they tell you, oh, sorry,
we can't do anything for you. So, like, do the

(01:01:48):
maths on that six cycles, average cycle is going to
cost twenty thousand dollars plus seven to ten thousand dollars
in hormones. You have a thirty thousand dollars experience that
is not guaranteed the first time, the second time, the
third time, six times, and you maybe have a thirty

(01:02:10):
five percent chance that it's going to be successful. So
I think it's really important for people to understand that
because their doctors are not going to tell them that.
And then the last one is that you do not
need to wait for twelve months of trying before getting tested.

(01:02:34):
And the reason for this is the amount of and
you'll like this, the amount of shame guilt, self like
questioning on the fertility journey when someone is trying and
it's not working. So this woman who is in a couple,

(01:02:54):
automatically she's taking on the responsibility that, oh, we want
to have a baby, so my responsibility to make that happen,
and when it doesn't happen, she is distraught, Like every
single cycle that goes by, little by little is chipping

(01:03:15):
away at her self confidence, her belief in her body
and increasing amounts of shame and guilt that this is
not happening for her or for them. Simultaneously, guy is
not getting tested at all, right, He's like, not my problem,
We'll have a baby when we have it. It's not

(01:03:37):
a big deal yet for her it's a really big deal.
So that and then she goes to her OBI maybe
in four months, six months, and she's like, what's wrong, Like,
I'm not getting pregnant, and the OBI says to her,
you're fine, just keep trying. Come back if it doesn't

(01:04:00):
work in twelve months. I think that's the most destructive
advice that we can be giving women, like if you
have not been on this journey, to be going through
that for twelve months or even six months, which is
it's like the technical is you have to try for

(01:04:21):
twelve consecutive cycles if you're under the age of thirty five,
or six consecutive cycles over the age of thirty five
before they will start to do the testing to figure
out if something is quote unquote wrong. I am of
the belief that ideally the instant you want to have
a child, or you are a planner and you're like,

(01:04:45):
we want to have a baby in seven months from now?
What do I need to do? Do the testing? That
is like probably the biggest game changer. And you may
do the testing and everything is fine and there's nothing
to worry about. Great, but you may do that testing
and figure out like, oh I'm not ovulating, Oh my

(01:05:09):
estrogen is low, Oh my progesterone never goes up. All
of those. If you could be testing them in advance,
you would save yourself the months and months of trying
the drama, the kind of like roller coaster ride that
women are on in this journey, and instead be able

(01:05:31):
to directly work on whatever the thing is and twelve
months from now you'll be pregnant, right, Like that's the opportunity.
And I am so sick of our medical system that's like,
oh no, we can't test you. And I had that

(01:05:52):
experience also. I was we were going to have a baby,
and I was like, in a year from now, I'll
be right with my partner now and we do have
a child together. So he we went to the OBI
and we were like, we're gonna be ready in a year,
let's get the testing. And literally forty five minutes of

(01:06:14):
arguing with this woman who was like absolutely not. You
have not tried at all. We can't give you the test. Finally,
she was like, forget it, it's not worth arguing with you.
I will order the test. I will make sure that
it does not get covered by insurance. You will pay
two thousand dollars for this testing. And I was like, really,

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you should have just told me that five minutes, like
forty five minutes ago, because I can order it for
like one hundred and fifty bucks. And she was like, really, well,
then go for it. And I was like I will,
because like, why wouldn't I want to plan and know
what's happening with my fertility and figure it out well

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before the point that I'm struggling.

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
See, that's the thing right there. Now. It's like, there's
two things that I think when someone's whether you're a
young couple or you're married. When I have kids, I
always say, we used to be like, you know, it's
important to consider doing some couples counseling before you get married,
just to make sure you're on the same page and
you think about things. You'd be surprised when people end
up in couples therapy after they're married and things aren't working.

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The things they didn't bother to talk about before they
got married, right, and it surfaces and it becomes a problem.
It's like you were probably having communication issues before you
got married, but you chose not to address issues now.
I feel like the other side to this point, I
would say to young people who are talking about getting married,
is you know something just like you should consider counseling
just to make sure you're on the same page. You

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should also see someone about your fertility, because I feel like,
even if you feel like you are in healthy person,
you never know what can happen. And to me, this
just sounds like preparing just to have a healthy baby
down the road, like you're gonna do all these things
to make sure you're putting your bi in the best
situation exactly maybe, which to me sounds like you're going
to probably produce a healthy baby too. So there's so

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many benefits to consider this. So people come to you
even if they don't have fertility issues, Is that fair
or is that something they can do if they're interested.

Speaker 4 (01:08:16):
They probably don't necessarily want to work with us directly,
but we do within a few weeks. So it's not
out yet, but in just a few weeks, we are
launching a tech platform that will support people to figure
out if there's an underlying issue with their fertility or
potential fertility okay, and be able to work on it

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without a doctor. So you don't have to like like,
we're not inexpensive, right, Like all of the things that
we do are out of pocket. But I really am
so passionate that people have the support. So I have
basically been working on building this for years and it's

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almost ready. Our tech keeps breaking, but as soon as
the tech works, we are good to launch and it's fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
So there's going to be a resource that people can
start tracking and figuring out to get to that point.

Speaker 4 (01:09:13):
To prepare are resource free. There's no cost to doing
the analysis, so you answer a bunch of questions. You
can plug in your labs if you have them, and
it will analyze and say, hey, you might have a
gut issue, you have blood sugar issues, not as a
diagnosis but as a potential, like hey, maybe you should

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get tested for this, or if you don't feel like
getting tested. You can also just be like, oh, I'm
going to do my diet and lifestyle and take some
supplements and LHILT and we'll see where it goes. So
you really get the resource to be able to say
your body is always experiencing things, right like if you

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get the awareness early. And I think someone had that
question of like how do I know about my sleep cycles?
What's optimal? So that analyzer will actually ask questions about
sleep and we'll say, hey, you have circadian rhythm dysregulation
based on what you've told us. So it's basically like

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a doctor in your back pocket to be able to
understand and assess what's happening with the hormones and could
they be potentially an issue for fertility, And it's like
ninety percent accurate, right, Like I've done we did some
preliminary testing. We've tested our patients who we have lab

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studies on that we can be like, hey, fill this
out and tell me if it tracks. And you're like,
oh my god, this is exactly what you told me.
And I'm like, yes, score, Like that's the goal.

Speaker 3 (01:10:57):
You make sure you let us know so we can
promote it. People know because it's just tools like this
that I feel like can help you to go to.
Then you're you know, provider and have a conversation at
least you're going in with information. I always say, providers
like information like when it gets started frequency intensity, and
a lot of people don't have that information and that

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just helps to have a good conversation. Then I say,
and you've said it too in your own words. If
you feel like you're sharing this information with someone and
you do not feel seen or heard, that's when you
need a new provider, because what is the point of
going to someone when you know something isn't right but
they're not listening. And that's the whole piece of finding
someone who's going to be open and ready listen. Oh,

(01:11:40):
it has been so amazing having you want. I could
talk to you forever. We could be here for two
hours just talking because there's like so many questions. So
thank you for so much for coming on everybody to
learn more about doctor Simmons and her proven holistic approach.
And it's very proven. You've worked with definitely women in
their thirties and their forties and there's been success. You
can always go find information on her website, which is

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www dot Holistic Fertilityinstitute dot com. You can go and
look there. I always say that's a great way to
be able to and I think everything they need to
know about you is right there, like literally, it's it's
right there, So make sure you go to the website.
I'm really big about telling people to get social with
my guests because you post a lot of pertinent information.

(01:12:24):
The articles I read just informed me. So you know,
they always say, if you want to know hide things
from people, put it in print. Well, to help you something,
it's worth it. But so many people are social media people.
Let's just be honest. So you're on YouTube and Instagram
at Holistic Fertility Doctor Facebook, which I know is a
join group, but they have to go to Facebook Atfertility

(01:12:46):
af and then ask to join and she'll decide if
you're worthy enough to be in the group. Hopefully you
will be. And of course.

Speaker 4 (01:12:55):
I'm seeing the little thing that goes across, so I
also made that shift. All of my handles are at
Holistic Fertility Doctor.

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
Yes, okay, see okay, so now that's the first one.
That's all you have to know. So if you follow her,
you're gonna get on a regular basis some good information altogether.
And of course what I liked and dug into was
the podcast Egg Meatsperm. It's on Apple. You know podcasts Spotify,

(01:13:24):
you can listen the episodes are great, They're highly informative
just by literally listening to your podcast. And I'm pretty
sure if people pick up your book The Fertility Secrets
What your Doctor Didn't tell you about Baby Making, I
feel like if you're in that mindset that you want
to start having kids, you probably should pick up this
book and start doing this research in advance so that

(01:13:45):
you can be in the best possible position to be
able to be like, you know, hey, I'm ready to
have a baby and I've done the work to have
what I want to be a healthy pregnancy. So thank
you so much for checking into the show. I truly
truly appreci she you being here, and make sure when
the app is ready to be launched you let us
know so we can definitely share it with our listeners.

Speaker 4 (01:14:07):
Amazing, Thank you so much for having me Maya. This
is awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
Yes, yes, everybody, this has been my wonderful, wonderful guest
who I have learned so much from an episode sixty
four and we talked fertility and then some So make sure,
like I said, you follow you got the website to
gain all this great information that she has definitely put
on the table until next time because I'm hoping to
have you back at some point to talk about more stuff.

(01:14:31):
We appreciate you taking time out of your Saturday to
be here with us. Thank you, all right, bye bye,
all right, everybody, So we had a lot of stuff
right there that you just learned. And if you are
looking into fertility, if you are having some issues like
you've got pcos, you've got into mess, any of these things,
don't be afraid to ask questions because go do some

(01:14:54):
research and I guarantee you it's going to be a
nugget of something you read that she's shared that you
can take back to your doctor and you can chat
with him about. And let's be honest, if you're chatting
and you don't feel like you're getting that feedback, or
they don't feel as knowledgeable. And let's be clear here,
all doctors are not created equal. This is why I
searched out someone who really was passionate about women's health,

(01:15:15):
and I could tell in their practice that they were.
I switched my guy in coollogists because I felt, well,
my gun in college told me I don't need to
know your esergen level. You're at the age. Yeah, you're
in menopause. That was her response to me. As my
whole world was falling apart and everything was turned upside
down and didn't make sense to me. I went on
and found somebody else who was willing to engage me
in the conversation and teach me. And you should be

(01:15:36):
willing to do the same thing when it comes to
your physical health but also your mental health. So thank
you everyone. I appreciate everyone tuning in to the show.
Remember you can find past episodes on my podcast platforms.
Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio is one as well Spotify, Amazon, Aumibles.

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Just search Maya my Ambition You're in and you can
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listen to episodes of the podcast on my website. Just
go to Maya dash Speaks dot com, click on the
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you subscribe and share my YouTube channel, but also my
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moving up in the world. I'm getting there. And of
course on my website, make sure you check out those
inspirational blogs. I am so so proud of that blog
and has some great insight only pulse once a week
because I want you to chew on it and think
about it. And of course my menopause blog is good
to be on pause, some great information everything about understanding
things from headache. If you happen to be a woman
and you have ADHD and you are perimenopause or a

(01:16:41):
menopausal there are some things that you should understand about
how things might be different for you and how you
might be struggling more than most because you already have
something that you work with, your executive function, and so
that's another reason to check out my blog Me on Pause.
That's it for this Go Around Everybody, Episode seventy four
or Let's Talk Fertility. We did it, and we did

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it big and my guest was absolutely awesome. Remember this
show will be available on all the podcast platforms and
a YouTube channel so you can share it with other people.
Maybe this conversation wasn't for you, but it doesn't mean
it may not be for somebody else. All right, So
you know what I always say. Until next time, everyone,
remember your present becomes your past and your future is

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no more. So make the most of every day, be well,
stay safe, and of course always continue to be amazing chow.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
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