August 12, 2024 • 16 mins
n this episode, Dr. Paul Anderson explores the use of herbs to support and enhance immune function. He covers:
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- Understanding Herbal Medicine: Introduction to the principles of herbal medicine and how certain herbs can help strengthen the immune system.
- Top Immune-Boosting Herbs:
- Echinacea: Known for its ability to reduce the severity and duration of colds and flu.
- Elderberry: Rich in antioxidants, elderberry is celebrated for its antiviral properties and effectiveness against respiratory infections.
- Astragalus: A powerful adaptogen that helps to modulate the immune response and increase resilience to stress.
- Garlic: Renowned for its antibacterial, antiviral, and antifungal properties, making it a versatile herb for overall immune support.
- Ginger: With anti-inflammatory and antioxidant effects, ginger helps to enhance immune function and fight off pathogens.
- Turmeric: Its active compound, curcumin, is a potent anti-inflammatory and antioxidant that supports immune health.
- How Herbs Work: Explanation of how these herbs interact with the body to enhance immune response, reduce inflammation, and fight off infections.
- Practical Uses: Tips for incorporating these herbs into daily life, including teas, tinctures, supplements, and culinary uses.
- Safety and Precautions: Guidance on using herbs safely, including potential interactions with medications and considerations for different health conditions.
- Integrating Herbs into a Healthy Lifestyle: How to combine herbal remedies with other healthy habits like proper nutrition, regular exercise, and stress management for comprehensive immune support.
- Personalized Herbal Plans: Recommendations for tailoring herbal use to individual health needs and seasonal changes, ensuring optimal immune protection year-round.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Good Dani, Welcome Medicine Health. I'm doctor Paul, and today
we're doing what can you Do to Prepare for Cold
and Flu Season? Natural Lifestyle, etc. Edition And so this
section I want to talk about herbs, plant medicine, botanical medicine,
whatever you want to call it. And there are literally
(00:23):
thousands of plant medicines and there are as more ways
to combine them in different traditional medical systems. So there
is a Western herbal tradition, there's Chinese medical herbal tradition.
There are different Native American herbal traditions. There are South American,
(00:44):
there's ore Eveda. There are specific ones in the Soviet Union, etc.
Former Russian states. So we're not going to get into
all that. I'm just going to talk about some of
the ones we commonly hear about and how they likely
work in this setting. Now, a lot of people will say, well,
(01:05):
if we're looking for prevention and getting ready for cold
and flu season, wouldn't herbs be more of an interventional
thing instead of a preventive thing. And that's a good question.
So the idea with an herbal product, or the difference
between prevention versus an intervention is if I'm taking something
(01:26):
like the nutrients we talked about, or the lifestyle adjustment
we talked about, Those are truly preventive. They're trying to
keep your body active, your immune system active, trying to
keep you as the best immune version of yourself, trying
to make you a small target for viruses, bacteria, et cetera. Now,
as always say, just doing any of these things guarantee
(01:50):
you're not going to get a cold or the flu
or covid or some other new thing that comes along. No,
of course not, that'd be stupid. There's nothing that can
guarantee you that even sitting alone in a room will
guarantee that you but it does make you less likely
or less of an opportune target for these infectious things.
(02:10):
The other thing is, like we've seen a lot with covid,
certainly not with everybody, but like we see a lot
with covid or coals and flus. If your body is
prepared and it's really in good shape when you go
into it, you have a better chance of not only
having maybe a shorter experience with it, but also coming
out the other side with less long lasting after effects.
(02:34):
Now do we see people sometimes who did everything they
could and they still have like long COVID or post
viral syndrome from some other thing. Sure that can happen,
but again, why not do all that you can to
make yourself as resilient as possible. So, yes, most of
what we're talking about are going to be more on
the intervention or maybe I'm maybe prevented in the setting.
(02:56):
I'm going to a lot of holiday parties and i
just want to have my immune system up. So definitely,
all those nutritional things we talked about in the other section,
all of those lifestyle things we talked about, And then
you hear a lot about things in the family like
the berberine berberous family, So this would come from things
(03:16):
like Oregon grape, etc. And they have sort of a
shirt tail relative called hydrast that's also know as golden seal,
And usually in that end of the spectrum for plants,
we prefer things like you know, Oregon grape berberous because
it's a little easier to come by, it's a little
(03:37):
less endangered, et cetera. But if you've heard of golden
seal or hydrastis it's kind of the same idea. Now,
the first thing to keep in mind is we think
of this kind of family of these sort of dark
needy herbs like barbarous. Maybe it's anti bacterial, but in
reality they're a very broad spectrum. They have anti bacteria,
(04:00):
anti virals, anti antifungal effect. Also in the case of barbarous,
it helps with the maintenance of the gi tracks flora.
There is some newer research out about how it shifts
the flora in a direction where some of the things
that we eat that might be turned into toxic material
actually are not turned into toxic material. So that's kind
(04:22):
of cool. So you often see this in some sort
of a mixture. Now a real popular mixture. It goes
by EHB and that is Echinatia hydrastis and burberine and
so that would be burberine golden seal and then echination.
We'll talk about echinacia separately. So anyway, it's the kind
(04:47):
of thing where you might be put on it chronically
for other things like blood sugar or gut function or
some other thing that's different, but it'd be beneficial. But
we use it a lot acutely with people who are
either they know they're exposed, they're going to be flying
on the airplane and going to parties whatever, or people
who are starting to feel like they might be getting sick.
(05:08):
So again that's there. Now, remember with all these things
we talked about, this is information for you. It's not
medical advice. Please work with somebody who knows about herbal
or botanical medicine. If you're going to start taking a
bunch of stuff, especially if you're on other medications or
you've got other underlying illness, it's really good to get
some ideas. This is just non medical advice information. I'm
(05:32):
giving you a kinesha I mentioned so ecinasa's kind of
really popular for viral illnesses flus and colds and stuff.
The earlier you take it when you're sick, the better usually.
And there was some interesting I guess publication publications that
(05:54):
came out, number of you're probably twenty years ago, and
some of them were like, well, acinationia doesn't prevent this
or that, or it doesn't help with colds, et cetera.
And I was on a review team that reviewed one
of the more famous ones of these Putt papers and
basically what they did, which you have to be careful
(06:15):
of with some of the negative data that comes out
about anything, especially herbal medicine is they used basically the
wrong kind and they didn't use enough of a dose
to do anything. And so if that's the case, it
would be like me saying, well, penicillin doesn't work for
certain bacterial infections. But I set up a trial where
I gave you know, one tenth the normal dose of
(06:38):
penicillin and said, oh, look, this penicillin stuff doesn't work. Well, no,
I gave the wrong dose, and all I prove with
that is that that dose is inappropriate. Zachinasia can be helped. Now,
there's a lot of concern in certain people during COVID
and they're like, oh my god, don't do echinasia because
it stimulates cidokines and go to cytokine storm and you'll die.
(07:01):
And well that's not true. Echinasia does stimulate side of kind.
So on the front end of it, almost it's not
bad to have it in there. Is it going to
be strong enough to perpetuate a cidokine storm And it's
not going to do that. So if you are using echinesia,
there are some people that react to it. There are
some people that have sort of an autoimmune type reaction, etc.
(07:21):
Which again is why you should work with somebody who's
trained in botanical therapies. And sometimes that might not be
your primary care provider unless they've done extra training in that.
But all in North America anyway. I'm from North America,
so I'll speak to our system here. All Chinese medicine providers,
traditional Chinese medicine providers are trained in traditional Chinese herbal medicine.
(07:46):
Now they might use different things I'm talking about, but
they would be a good source. Registered or certified botanical
medicine providers or herbalists. Are there all nature pathic physicians
who are licensed and have passed their boards. They're all
trained to do this sort of thing and many other
(08:08):
categories as well. Another one, since we talked about Ecinasia
creating some problems in people worrying about cytokine storms, et cetera.
Another one is elder black, elder sambucas. And there's a
a medicine patent medicine called sambucll that we get the
(08:28):
kids a lot, and it's got some sambucas and it
tastes good, so they'll usually drink it. So elder or
sam Bucas was also said, Oh my god, don't don't
use that. You know it's used, it's used during cold
and flu. Don't use it with covid because you'll have
cydokine and it gets the same story as echinasia. It's
not going to be strong enough really to do that.
(08:51):
Next one is wormwood or the Artemisia family. Now, Ardemesia
family comes from the wormwood plant, and the wormwood plant
gives us a lot of different subconstituents. So there's like
art tomissin in as a common oral version, whole plant,
wormwoods and other oral version are testinate, and then there's
a whole bunch of other ones that are used as drugs.
(09:13):
These are known to be very anti viral, anti parasitic.
They're used, their constituents are used in malaria, all sorts
of stuff. And now there's publications and some case reports
of people using artemission or wormwood extracts in covid and
treating covid, et cetera. And so that's another one. Now,
(09:37):
it can have some side effects that you wanted to
sort of watch for. If you're taking like a wormwood
compound for a long time, it can decrease your iron levels.
And you know, initially if you have too much iron.
That may not be a bad thing, and we use
that to our advantage when we use artemissin and our
testinate those sort of things medically speaking, but long term
(09:59):
use really should be monitored. Your blood count should be monitored,
et cetera. Short term, as I say, in these case
studies with COVID, etc. It's shown to be quite useful.
We also, long before COVID, we were using it in
cancer research. It's now being developed beyond its malaria drug
status into cancer drugs, and it works quite well in
(10:23):
the cancer setting. But what we noticed incidentally was in
the clinic we're doing the research for the cancer patients,
we had a lot of people with chronic infections who
didn't have cancer, and so we started to use the artestinate,
the intravenous version of this such a little packed a
little more punch with those folks with some viral infections,
(10:43):
and we get very unique but very helpful responses to
the viral infections with that family. Another one you hear
a lot about known as Laugusticum or Osha, and Osha
can be spelled a couple of different ways. There's a
lot of species in the genus, but Osha or lugusticum
(11:05):
is used a lot in many traditional medicine types of formulas,
and we use a lot for an anti viral. It's
primarily antiviral. It does some other good things, but that's
another one that you'll see. Then one of my favorites
because it kind of covers most infectious agents, is a
regano an you think, I mean like regano i'd put
(11:26):
on my Italian food or something like, Yeah, that's in
that family. A lot of the supplements are made with
a stronger version. It's usually Mexican oregano or an extract thereof,
and we use that. It's got good anti fungal coverage.
It can be anti bacterial, antiparasitic, and anti viral. So
regano can be very useful as a supplement. And then
(11:48):
the last big are I want to talk about because
it's so popular and so useful, is our medicinal types
of mushrooms. And so here I'm not looking so much
at the psychedelic version of medicinal mushrooms, although we could
do a show all about them, look at more of
the immune immuneo logic mushrooms. So you think about things
(12:09):
like mitaki and shitaki, also a straggleous crimini mushrooms. And
then you know, people always gave white button mushrooms kind
of a hard time in the medical industry until all
of a sudden, we're published it. Simply by eating a
certain amount of white button mushrooms every day, people's immune
functions would shift. And so now some of the supplemental
(12:32):
companies actually a white button mushroom, you know, extracts, et cetera.
So all mushrooms have these properties. Now, most of them
are modulatory, so they're there to help regulate. Sometimes they're
a type of thing that you might take preventively just
to kind of keep your immune system, you could say,
spunky and online throughout the cold and flu season. There
(12:55):
are some mixtures of immune mushrooms. Some people will do
that and they'll rotate different mixtures every month. And then
sometimes you know, if you're sick, your practitioner might give
you a lot of one kind or one family or
something of that nature. So mushrooms can be very useful. Now,
anything you can eat is also a benefit. So if
you can incorporate eating mushrooms into your regular dietary plan,
(13:18):
you will get some of the immune benefit from that
as well. You're just going to get more concentrated version
from the you know, the supplement that you might get,
or maybe a concentrate that you make can do a
t or some other thing that your practitioner might give you.
But the way to think about mushrooms is most of
them really are immunoregulatory. But that's not a bad thing
(13:40):
on the preventive side of the scale, because they can
help the immune system kind of stay level and steady
and work at its best. And like I say, if
you're getting exposed or you know, or you know you've
gotten exposed, you might be you know, feeling a little rough.
Taking these things early and along the way is much
(14:02):
better than waiting, you know, sort of like a lot
of things. We see this a lot with antiviral drugs,
Like if you wait to take them till you've been
sick for a while, the drugs don't do a whole
lot for most people, so earlier is better. What's kind
of the same with supplements. Yes, you can you know,
kind of reel it back in after a while, but
you just want to keep in mind that, you know,
(14:23):
the supplements. A lot of these herbs that we talked
about you know, you might want to keep a little
bit on hand and then you know, take them as
soon as you start feeling like you caught something or
you were exposed to something. And again, you know, this
is just information you not medical advice. You need to
check this out with whoever your healthcare providers. When it
comes to herbs, me need to find a healthcare provider
(14:46):
who is trained in the use of herbal medicines to
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Good Dani, Welcome Medicine Health. I'm doctor Paul, and today
we're doing what can you Do to Prepare for Cold
and Flu Season? Natural Lifestyle, etc. Edition And so this
section I want to talk about herbs, plant medicine, botanical medicine,
whatever you want to call it. And there are literally
(00:23):
thousands of plant medicines and there are as more ways
to combine them in different traditional medical systems. So there
is a Western herbal tradition, there's Chinese medical herbal tradition.
There are different Native American herbal traditions. There are South American,
(00:44):
there's ore Eveda. There are specific ones in the Soviet Union, etc.
Former Russian states. So we're not going to get into
all that. I'm just going to talk about some of
the ones we commonly hear about and how they likely
work in this setting. Now, a lot of people will say, well,
(01:05):
if we're looking for prevention and getting ready for cold
and flu season, wouldn't herbs be more of an interventional
thing instead of a preventive thing. And that's a good question.
So the idea with an herbal product, or the difference
between prevention versus an intervention is if I'm taking something
(01:26):
like the nutrients we talked about, or the lifestyle adjustment
we talked about, Those are truly preventive. They're trying to
keep your body active, your immune system active, trying to
keep you as the best immune version of yourself, trying
to make you a small target for viruses, bacteria, et cetera. Now,
as always say, just doing any of these things guarantee
(01:50):
you're not going to get a cold or the flu
or covid or some other new thing that comes along. No,
of course not, that'd be stupid. There's nothing that can
guarantee you that even sitting alone in a room will
guarantee that you but it does make you less likely
or less of an opportune target for these infectious things.
(02:10):
The other thing is, like we've seen a lot with covid,
certainly not with everybody, but like we see a lot
with covid or coals and flus. If your body is
prepared and it's really in good shape when you go
into it, you have a better chance of not only
having maybe a shorter experience with it, but also coming
out the other side with less long lasting after effects.
(02:34):
Now do we see people sometimes who did everything they
could and they still have like long COVID or post
viral syndrome from some other thing. Sure that can happen,
but again, why not do all that you can to
make yourself as resilient as possible. So, yes, most of
what we're talking about are going to be more on
the intervention or maybe I'm maybe prevented in the setting.
(02:56):
I'm going to a lot of holiday parties and i
just want to have my immune system up. So definitely,
all those nutritional things we talked about in the other section,
all of those lifestyle things we talked about, And then
you hear a lot about things in the family like
the berberine berberous family, So this would come from things
(03:16):
like Oregon grape, etc. And they have sort of a
shirt tail relative called hydrast that's also know as golden seal,
And usually in that end of the spectrum for plants,
we prefer things like you know, Oregon grape berberous because
it's a little easier to come by, it's a little
(03:37):
less endangered, et cetera. But if you've heard of golden
seal or hydrastis it's kind of the same idea. Now,
the first thing to keep in mind is we think
of this kind of family of these sort of dark
needy herbs like barbarous. Maybe it's anti bacterial, but in
reality they're a very broad spectrum. They have anti bacteria,
(04:00):
anti virals, anti antifungal effect. Also in the case of barbarous,
it helps with the maintenance of the gi tracks flora.
There is some newer research out about how it shifts
the flora in a direction where some of the things
that we eat that might be turned into toxic material
actually are not turned into toxic material. So that's kind
(04:22):
of cool. So you often see this in some sort
of a mixture. Now a real popular mixture. It goes
by EHB and that is Echinatia hydrastis and burberine and
so that would be burberine golden seal and then echination.
We'll talk about echinacia separately. So anyway, it's the kind
(04:47):
of thing where you might be put on it chronically
for other things like blood sugar or gut function or
some other thing that's different, but it'd be beneficial. But
we use it a lot acutely with people who are
either they know they're exposed, they're going to be flying
on the airplane and going to parties whatever, or people
who are starting to feel like they might be getting sick.
(05:08):
So again that's there. Now, remember with all these things
we talked about, this is information for you. It's not
medical advice. Please work with somebody who knows about herbal
or botanical medicine. If you're going to start taking a
bunch of stuff, especially if you're on other medications or
you've got other underlying illness, it's really good to get
some ideas. This is just non medical advice information. I'm
(05:32):
giving you a kinesha I mentioned so ecinasa's kind of
really popular for viral illnesses flus and colds and stuff.
The earlier you take it when you're sick, the better usually.
And there was some interesting I guess publication publications that
(05:54):
came out, number of you're probably twenty years ago, and
some of them were like, well, acinationia doesn't prevent this
or that, or it doesn't help with colds, et cetera.
And I was on a review team that reviewed one
of the more famous ones of these Putt papers and
basically what they did, which you have to be careful
(06:15):
of with some of the negative data that comes out
about anything, especially herbal medicine is they used basically the
wrong kind and they didn't use enough of a dose
to do anything. And so if that's the case, it
would be like me saying, well, penicillin doesn't work for
certain bacterial infections. But I set up a trial where
I gave you know, one tenth the normal dose of
(06:38):
penicillin and said, oh, look, this penicillin stuff doesn't work. Well, no,
I gave the wrong dose, and all I prove with
that is that that dose is inappropriate. Zachinasia can be helped. Now,
there's a lot of concern in certain people during COVID
and they're like, oh my god, don't do echinasia because
it stimulates cidokines and go to cytokine storm and you'll die.
(07:01):
And well that's not true. Echinasia does stimulate side of kind.
So on the front end of it, almost it's not
bad to have it in there. Is it going to
be strong enough to perpetuate a cidokine storm And it's
not going to do that. So if you are using echinesia,
there are some people that react to it. There are
some people that have sort of an autoimmune type reaction, etc.
(07:21):
Which again is why you should work with somebody who's
trained in botanical therapies. And sometimes that might not be
your primary care provider unless they've done extra training in that.
But all in North America anyway. I'm from North America,
so I'll speak to our system here. All Chinese medicine providers,
traditional Chinese medicine providers are trained in traditional Chinese herbal medicine.
(07:46):
Now they might use different things I'm talking about, but
they would be a good source. Registered or certified botanical
medicine providers or herbalists. Are there all nature pathic physicians
who are licensed and have passed their boards. They're all
trained to do this sort of thing and many other
(08:08):
categories as well. Another one, since we talked about Ecinasia
creating some problems in people worrying about cytokine storms, et cetera.
Another one is elder black, elder sambucas. And there's a
a medicine patent medicine called sambucll that we get the
(08:28):
kids a lot, and it's got some sambucas and it
tastes good, so they'll usually drink it. So elder or
sam Bucas was also said, Oh my god, don't don't
use that. You know it's used, it's used during cold
and flu. Don't use it with covid because you'll have
cydokine and it gets the same story as echinasia. It's
not going to be strong enough really to do that.
(08:51):
Next one is wormwood or the Artemisia family. Now, Ardemesia
family comes from the wormwood plant, and the wormwood plant
gives us a lot of different subconstituents. So there's like
art tomissin in as a common oral version, whole plant,
wormwoods and other oral version are testinate, and then there's
a whole bunch of other ones that are used as drugs.
(09:13):
These are known to be very anti viral, anti parasitic.
They're used, their constituents are used in malaria, all sorts
of stuff. And now there's publications and some case reports
of people using artemission or wormwood extracts in covid and
treating covid, et cetera. And so that's another one. Now,
(09:37):
it can have some side effects that you wanted to
sort of watch for. If you're taking like a wormwood
compound for a long time, it can decrease your iron levels.
And you know, initially if you have too much iron.
That may not be a bad thing, and we use
that to our advantage when we use artemissin and our
testinate those sort of things medically speaking, but long term
(09:59):
use really should be monitored. Your blood count should be monitored,
et cetera. Short term, as I say, in these case
studies with COVID, etc. It's shown to be quite useful.
We also, long before COVID, we were using it in
cancer research. It's now being developed beyond its malaria drug
status into cancer drugs, and it works quite well in
(10:23):
the cancer setting. But what we noticed incidentally was in
the clinic we're doing the research for the cancer patients,
we had a lot of people with chronic infections who
didn't have cancer, and so we started to use the artestinate,
the intravenous version of this such a little packed a
little more punch with those folks with some viral infections,
(10:43):
and we get very unique but very helpful responses to
the viral infections with that family. Another one you hear
a lot about known as Laugusticum or Osha, and Osha
can be spelled a couple of different ways. There's a
lot of species in the genus, but Osha or lugusticum
(11:05):
is used a lot in many traditional medicine types of formulas,
and we use a lot for an anti viral. It's
primarily antiviral. It does some other good things, but that's
another one that you'll see. Then one of my favorites
because it kind of covers most infectious agents, is a
regano an you think, I mean like regano i'd put
(11:26):
on my Italian food or something like, Yeah, that's in
that family. A lot of the supplements are made with
a stronger version. It's usually Mexican oregano or an extract thereof,
and we use that. It's got good anti fungal coverage.
It can be anti bacterial, antiparasitic, and anti viral. So
regano can be very useful as a supplement. And then
(11:48):
the last big are I want to talk about because
it's so popular and so useful, is our medicinal types
of mushrooms. And so here I'm not looking so much
at the psychedelic version of medicinal mushrooms, although we could
do a show all about them, look at more of
the immune immuneo logic mushrooms. So you think about things
(12:09):
like mitaki and shitaki, also a straggleous crimini mushrooms. And
then you know, people always gave white button mushrooms kind
of a hard time in the medical industry until all
of a sudden, we're published it. Simply by eating a
certain amount of white button mushrooms every day, people's immune
functions would shift. And so now some of the supplemental
(12:32):
companies actually a white button mushroom, you know, extracts, et cetera.
So all mushrooms have these properties. Now, most of them
are modulatory, so they're there to help regulate. Sometimes they're
a type of thing that you might take preventively just
to kind of keep your immune system, you could say,
spunky and online throughout the cold and flu season. There
(12:55):
are some mixtures of immune mushrooms. Some people will do
that and they'll rotate different mixtures every month. And then
sometimes you know, if you're sick, your practitioner might give
you a lot of one kind or one family or
something of that nature. So mushrooms can be very useful. Now,
anything you can eat is also a benefit. So if
you can incorporate eating mushrooms into your regular dietary plan,
(13:18):
you will get some of the immune benefit from that
as well. You're just going to get more concentrated version
from the you know, the supplement that you might get,
or maybe a concentrate that you make can do a
t or some other thing that your practitioner might give you.
But the way to think about mushrooms is most of
them really are immunoregulatory. But that's not a bad thing
(13:40):
on the preventive side of the scale, because they can
help the immune system kind of stay level and steady
and work at its best. And like I say, if
you're getting exposed or you know, or you know you've
gotten exposed, you might be you know, feeling a little rough.
Taking these things early and along the way is much
(14:02):
better than waiting, you know, sort of like a lot
of things. We see this a lot with antiviral drugs,
Like if you wait to take them till you've been
sick for a while, the drugs don't do a whole
lot for most people, so earlier is better. What's kind
of the same with supplements. Yes, you can you know,
kind of reel it back in after a while, but
you just want to keep in mind that, you know,
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the supplements. A lot of these herbs that we talked
about you know, you might want to keep a little
bit on hand and then you know, take them as
soon as you start feeling like you caught something or
you were exposed to something. And again, you know, this
is just information you not medical advice. You need to
check this out with whoever your healthcare providers. When it
comes to herbs, me need to find a healthcare provider
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who is trained in the use of herbal medicines to
really get good solid information. All right, this, Doctor Anderson,
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