Good evening, everybody. Its Thursday and time for another edition of Metal Mayhem ROC!
Tonight-- show host Jon “The Vernomatic’ Verno has two fun informative interviews to share.
THE THREE TREMORS, the project featuring acclaimed heavy metal singers Tim "Ripper" Owens (JUDAS PRIEST, ICED EARTH, YNGWIE MALMSTEEN), Harry "The Tyrant" Conklin (JAG PANZER) and Sean "The Hell Destroyer" Peck (CAGE, DEATH DEALER, DENNER/SHERMANN), will release its second album, "Guardians of The Void", on November 5 via Steel Cartel Records.
TREMORS shot out of a cannon at a frantic pace. They were pursuing an aggressive pace of live performances when the shutdown forced them to cut short their North American tour in the middle of their run in early 2020. They wasted no time, however, and got to work on another new album. Now their sophomore effort "Guardians of The Void" is ready for blast-off.
Vernomatic’s second interview is a cool chat with listener Charlie Avino.
On April 28th, 1981 Marty Duda was a young disc Jockey responsible for booking Ozzy Osbourne & The Blizzard of Ozz TV show "After Hours" at 31 Studios here in Rochester, New York. Charlie and Marty were friends and classmates at S.U.N.Y Brockport at the time, and was in attendance for the taping of that performance.
Charlie heard our original interview with Marty from April of 2021 and reached out to me to share his memories of the event. Stories like what it was like to meet with Ozzy, Randy and the rest of the band, talking drumming with Tommy Aldridge, and to just see and feel the power of an ascending true heavy metal super star in Randy Rhodes.
This is some of the only pro shot video footage in existence of the late Randy Rhoads and Charlie was there to experience it all and share his memories with us.
We invite you to rate and review this and all past episodes at www.podchaser.com Simply enter Metal Mayhem ROC in the search box, scroll down, press the MMROC logo and rate the episode and leave a review
As always, we encourage you to listen, like and share this and all past episode to your metal and NON metal friends. Thank you for your support, you can follow us at https://www.facebook.com/groups/409879766475870
Please stay safe and always remember to KEEP IT HEAVY!!!
Tonight-- show host Jon “The Vernomatic’ Verno has two fun informative interviews to share.
THE THREE TREMORS, the project featuring acclaimed heavy metal singers Tim "Ripper" Owens (JUDAS PRIEST, ICED EARTH, YNGWIE MALMSTEEN), Harry "The Tyrant" Conklin (JAG PANZER) and Sean "The Hell Destroyer" Peck (CAGE, DEATH DEALER, DENNER/SHERMANN), will release its second album, "Guardians of The Void", on November 5 via Steel Cartel Records.
TREMORS shot out of a cannon at a frantic pace. They were pursuing an aggressive pace of live performances when the shutdown forced them to cut short their North American tour in the middle of their run in early 2020. They wasted no time, however, and got to work on another new album. Now their sophomore effort "Guardians of The Void" is ready for blast-off.
Vernomatic’s second interview is a cool chat with listener Charlie Avino.
On April 28th, 1981 Marty Duda was a young disc Jockey responsible for booking Ozzy Osbourne & The Blizzard of Ozz TV show "After Hours" at 31 Studios here in Rochester, New York. Charlie and Marty were friends and classmates at S.U.N.Y Brockport at the time, and was in attendance for the taping of that performance.
Charlie heard our original interview with Marty from April of 2021 and reached out to me to share his memories of the event. Stories like what it was like to meet with Ozzy, Randy and the rest of the band, talking drumming with Tommy Aldridge, and to just see and feel the power of an ascending true heavy metal super star in Randy Rhodes.
This is some of the only pro shot video footage in existence of the late Randy Rhoads and Charlie was there to experience it all and share his memories with us.
We invite you to rate and review this and all past episodes at www.podchaser.com Simply enter Metal Mayhem ROC in the search box, scroll down, press the MMROC logo and rate the episode and leave a review
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It's pretty cool. Tonight's show,we have a couple interviews. The first
one is with Shaun Peck of TheThree Tremors. Now, if you're not
familiar with The Three Tremors, it'sa Sean Peck of Cage and Death Dealer
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and like three or four other projects. Tim Ripper Owens of the new KKSE
Priest outfit and formerly the replacement forRob he Alford and Judas Priest, and
Harry Conklin from jag Panzer old metalband from the eighties. While these guys
have just released their second full eighthalbum under the name of the band the
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Three Tremors. New album comes outtomorrow. It's called Guardians of the Void.
And actually last night, November third, they started a US tour and
dates are up at three Tremors dotcom. Their touring around the country playing
music from their first two albums andthen music from all their singers careers.
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So we're gonna talk with Sean injust a minute. The second half,
it's a Night's show. I doan interview with a listener of the show,
Charlie Avino. He's an old timerocker. He happened to go on
YouTube and saw the interview clip thatI did with Marty Dooda, the guy
that booked Ozzy Osbourne for that famousafter hours performance in Rochester forty years ago.
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While Charlie was there that night atthe taping as a young twentysomething,
your old musician. He saw theclip I did with Marty, really loved
it, got in touch with me, so I did an interview with him,
and he gives us his account ofthe night, how he met Ozzy
and Sharon was talking with Tommy Aldridgeand Randy Rhodes, and just another view
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know him from Cage Death Dealer inhis latest out fit, Three Tremors.
Let's welcome back to Metal Mayhem Rocmetal visionary, Sean pack Man, metal
visionary. That sound has a nicering to it. I'd dig that.
Thank you, you know, ofcourse, using any anytime. Congratulations.
Tomorrow, the new Three Tremors releasedrops Guardians of the Void. It's the
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second full length. Tell us alittle bit about the project. Well,
of well, I just went ontothe metal station dot com. That's cool.
I just logged that in and myfavorite so I'm going to check that
out. That looks really cool.The album drops. I don't know if
we're live or whatever, but thealbum drops November fifth, actually, but
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we have a we have a singleout already. The pre orders are at
the three Tremors dot com. They'regoing like crazy. The response has been
fantastic. Um, we have youknow, we're we're we kind of run
our own label with this and theother stuff that I put out and in
some friends bands called Steelcartel to Steelcarteldot com and YouTube slash Steel Cartel,
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and we're well known for um forhaving incredible pre order packages. We've got
socked. We got three Tremors sockswe got off. So the ration has
been fantastic. Man, we onlyput out one song. We've got a
couple other videos coming out before thetour hits. So looking forward to people,
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you know, actually hearing the record. The album is never going to
hit Spotify. You will never beable to hear this album for free.
Like every other record in the world. We release three songs, you know,
three videos. That gives you enoughidea whether you're gonna want to,
you know, buy the record ornot. But you know, CD sales
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are up, Vinyl sales are up, CD players and record players sales are
up. And you know, luckilyin the heavy metal genre, people like
to have the physical product, andyou know, our physical product is second
to none. It is incredible lookand the artwork is insane, sixteen panel
booklets with all original art on everysingle page. The vinyls are you know,
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incredible. So even if you're notbuying one of our crazy bundle packages
and you're just picking up the CDon Amazon, you know it's worth the
fifteen bucks to support the BA Andum, I'm taking a stand against Spotify
and all these streaming platforms like Fridayrolls around and every single album in the
world is just free for everybody toconsume. And you know, we we
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like it that our fans and metalheads value the music. You know,
the music has value, and weget supported greatly by the people that that
dig it. And you know,more people need to take a stand like
this. You know it's not youwork. We worked super hard and spend
lots of money on promotion and advertisingand artwork and recording, and just to
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have the album out for free rightwhen it comes out it makes zero sense
to me. We used to bein a music economy where there was no
free music, and you know,you can record a tape and trade tapes
maybe, but now, um,we're we just don't you know. I've
toured the Spotify headquarters. We gota private tour back in the day with
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that dealer and it's disgusting. Man, They're just no one there does a
damn thing. But I'll sitting thereheadpaters doing nothing. They have a huge
multimillion dollar gaming center where there wheretheir employees can you know, play video
games if they're too stressed. They'vegot this kitchen where it's like everything it's
free. You can eat and drinkto your heart's content. And I was
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there with Ross the Boss and hewas just fuming that he was going to
pop a vein. How sick toa stomach he was. And yeah,
you know, and a lot ofpeople are giving us props for having this
stand. Last time you're on theshow is about a year ago when The
Conquered Lands was released, and youmentioned in that interview that there was a
side thought of maybe starting a heavymetal quote Spotify something where it would just
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be metal bands and it would bea little better compensation for the bands.
Is that something you followed up onor was it just a no. I
mean, I'm too much of asmall fry to make anything like that happened.
I don't think it's real. Imean, after talking to people in
the industry, it's not possible becauseof all the contracts that are already in
existence. But you know, ifall the big metal labels got together and
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made their own thing, I mean, that would be that would be a
great way to go. But it'snever gonna happen. It's just a it's
another SHAMPEC pipe dream. Well,it sounded like a good idea. Let's
talk about the Guardians of the Void. Quick question. Was this a planned
post death Dealer released? The firstone was twenty nineteen, the first three
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Tremors. How did this one comeabout? Well, we always knew we
were going to make a new record. It was going to come out in
twenty twenty two, but because wegot this, this window of opportunity to
do it a US tour, weput it out earlier. You know.
The KKSE priest thing gave us anopportun tunity to a little window to to
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make some shows happen in North America. So we jumped on it, pushed
up the release. Um, andthere's always going to be another record for
sure, you know. And thenbecause of the k CASE priesting you know,
our our drummer from Cage and theThree Tremors is also in KKSE Priest
with Ripper. So performing is reallythe number one payoff that's for a musician.
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That is the you know, thatis the the big pot of gold
at the end of the rainbow.That's the funnest part. The second funnest
part is you know, talking topeople like you about it that are really
interested in it. So I wantto give you, you know, props
and thanks for all the hard workthat you do in the Passion project that
you got with your show and everything, and then you know, creating the
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songs and and seeing other people enjoywhat you created. I always say,
like, you know, artists thatpainted painting, it sits in a gallery,
some people stare that's amazing. Butmusic, you know, with social
media, you get people hitting youup and commenting. I mean, you
get a lot of reaction from music, which is really gratifying to the person
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creating the song. You know,you get people saying this fucking thing kicks
ass, or you get reviews thatyou know say that it's good or what
they like they didn't like about it, and it's it's very gratifying. From
an artist standpoint, because there's nota lot of art genres where you get
that kind of feedback, So it'skind of a cool thing. But yeah,
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let's round up the roster. TimRipper Owens from Judas Priest, KKs
Priest, and a whole list ofothers. And Harry Cocklin, better known
as the Tyrant Harry goes old School. I remember back in the eighties with
that jag pans or stuff. Iwas digging that back in eighty one eighty
two Underground Legends. Yeah, butthe tour starts eleven three in Connecticut and
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you were talking about, you know, creating your creative person. Well,
unfortunately last year or two you havebeen able to get out there and play.
So how does it feel to actuallybook a tour and do you have
the confidence? Well we only gotlike fifteen twenty dates on this leg,
but do you feel confident that theseare going to happen? Yeah? We
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you know, I see all thesetours canceling. They've got a giant,
you know, network of crew,and we're lean and mean man. So
like if one of the guys inthe band gets you know, the sniffles
the shows going on, we don'thave crew guys. If they get sick,
it's gonna fall apart and have somedomino effect. I mean, you
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know, some of the guys inthe band have had COVID already. We've
been we think we all had COVIDback in December twenty nineteen, before it
was cool coming off. We wereall sick as hell, lost our taste,
so we were probably you know,patients zero back then. We've been
vaccinated, and so we're we're feelingpretty confident. I've been out at you
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know, I just was at Ripperand I just went to the Charger game
with seventy thousand Browns and Chargers fans, no masks, you know, elbow
to elbow. So we're feeling prettyconfident that we're gonna get through these shows.
And the reaction has been great.Man, some of them are selling
out, and you know, peopleare hitting me up every day that they're
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coming. And because Judas Priest isn'ton the road anymore, this is kind
of really the only thing in thisyou know zone that like this on the
road right now, so I thinkpeople are excited about it. Yeah,
we have a Rochester date on thetwelfth, and then the Buffalo the thirteenth,
So you're spending a weekend in WesternNew York looking forward to these shows.
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Bill's Mafia. I can't wait toI can't wait to get out there,
you know, play some new venues. And the show is insane.
Man, anybody who's in the medallistening out there, You've never seen anything
like this. It's like saying heavymetal, speed metal band with three singers
that are you know, kind ofsecond to not Yeah, you know not,
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I mean Harry and Ripper, areyou know, unmatched? I'm just
okay, But it's you know,with the three of us up there at
the same time, with the waythe band is and everything, it's super
powerful. And when we did thatfirst europe tour, there would always be
some guy would come up to meafter the show like, may I speak
with you for a second, likesome heavy I have seen all the one
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thousand shows and this was one ofthe greatest shows I have ever seen.
And so we were getting that likeall the time for these hardcore metal people.
So it's really encouraging and like yougot to come in and check it
out live. Are you guys takingsolos? Are you playing stuff from your
bad catalog? Is it just thethree Tremor releases. What's the set list?
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Well, last time we did youknow, a song from each of
our catalog or we did some covers, but this is going to be you
know, seven songs up the firstrecord, seven songs up the second record,
and maybe one or two cover.So it's going to be definitely three
Tremor centric. But you know alot of those songs. Bone Breakers,
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you know, we're doing really good. That's a single that we got out
so far. We'll have another singleout by the time the tour starts.
Crucifier, which is another really goodone. And if people love those,
you know, the first albums,so we decided to pull back from the
heavy cover thing and we're only todo, like I said, one or
two in there and go really Tremorcentric and I think people are gonna love
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it. Now. Going back tothe first one you did that you had
offered that studio session the solo.Do you have any plans to do that
for this release? Well, wekeep getting asked about. I mean,
we had them and they're amazing.It's just a matter of you know,
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Dave Percy of the guitar player andengineer who did this the album sounds killer
man. The production on this albumis like he hit a home run.
I'm just thinking the drone sound likea helicopter flying over your over your house.
It's insane. Um, it's youknow, he's got a mix and
master thirty six songs. It's alot. He's not too excited about tackling
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that. So let's we'll give hima little break for a while. Well,
he's got to finish this new Cagerecord, and maybe I can hit
him up to do that towards theend of next year. But right now
he's telling me to go jump ina lake. If I said, hey,
dude, we gotta mix those thirtysix d yeah, I didn't exactly
set that up correctly for the peoplelistening. On the last release, the
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first one, the band did somethingunique where SOO the solo where each singer
did the entire album, the wholelineup alone. So you had three versions
actually probably four versions the studio withall of them doing it, and then
each singer did the entire album justthem singing. So that's yeah, I
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guess, uh, yeah, thatwould be a problem for the mixer.
He has to you know, remixall that in But Yeah. People loved
it though, and there's some incrediblesolo versions. I mean, they really
really should get them out there becausethey're just some amazing versions of the song.
So um, yeah, maybe oneday, but it's not, it's
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not imminently in the plans. We'retalking with Sean Peck the Hell Destroyer,
one of three guys from the ThreeTremors, along with Tim rip Rowans and
Harry the Tyrant Conklin. New albumdrops tomorrow on Steel Kurtzel Records. What's
what's the cap on these rooms you'redoing? Is it a five hundred fifteen
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hundred of variety because no, no, these are smaller, you know,
two hundred to four hundred seeders.So we're still we're still growing the band,
but it's been growing. Like Isaid, the pre orders are bigger
than the last release. The ticketsales are much better than the last tours.
So um, and you know,it just keeps. It's a slow
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build, but it's fun that way, you know, we we we I
enjoy I enjoy rooms like that.I enjoy a packed small room with a
hundred people at it. It's youknow, the enthusiasm is just fantastic.
My top ten most memorable shows likeyou. I wouldn't even put Vacan in
the top twenty as far as howI enjoyed myself and the crowd reactions.
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So just because you're you know,musicians out there, everyone wants to play
the big festivals, but they're they'renot always that gratifying as you know,
a nice packed midsize room to meanyways. Yeah, and as a fan,
I'm not going to any of thesebig festivals because when you see the
bands, Yeah you got twenty bands, but you know what, the sets
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they're playing, there is no roomfor, no wiggle room in it.
So I'm getting excited about going,like to this the night Book. Yeah,
it's going to be good. Thenight before Black Label Societies in town
up at the Armory. Oh yeah, I know. It's a you know,
it's an eight hundred seat plays it'sa little bigger, but the intimacy
is there, so stuff we're lookingfor. I was Zach Wild's guitar check
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for like ten shows. I don'teven know how to turn an amp on.
It was. That was quite aThat was quite adventure. We did
the Battle all when Death Dealer openedfor the Metal All Stars, Stu and
I we were Zach's text for likethe the uh the ten shows. It
was wild, we got we becamereally you know, good good buddies with
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Zach and told some fun story.Zack's a good guy and met him wants
he was cool, met him upwith the rock house of guitars. I'm
sure that that show will contain atwenty minute guitar solo that he just loves
to do. You know, let'ssee a couple of questions in Steel Cartel.
Now, when I'm involved with theradio station and looking at new music
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and doing research, you know,I work with all the publicists and the
record companies. You know, I'mgetting bombarded with stuff daily, and there's
just so much out there. There'sso many avenues to discover new music.
And can anyone get on a labeland has it lost its luster throughout the
years? I don't know, man, I mean, you know, you
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want to put an album out,you know basically, you know, people
that are in young, new bandsthey want to be on a label and
they think that's going to get them. Yeah, you know, shows and
the labels want you know, bandsthat are willing to sleep in the van
and just play three hundred dates ayear and just really grind it. That's
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why, you know, when weput out the Death Dealer thing, like
these labels like this album is great, but you're a bunch of old dudes
and you're not gonna You're not gonnago out and you know you do the
freaking dirty works, sleep on thefloor and you know all that stuff.
So um, and you know,obviously the revenue from the music business is
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not what it is because the physicalunits don't sell anything like they used to.
So you know, if you ifyou have taken a chance on a
new band, it's you know,it's like it seems like you're gonna lose
money no matter what. So Idon't you know, that's why on my
label, I do my stuff andthen my friends bands. But you know,
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as far you know, other bandsare hitting me up all the time
like hey man, you know we'relooking for a label, and I'm like,
sounds killer, but I'm not youknow, I'm not excited about losing
fifteen thousand dollars on your band.Um. So I don't know how these
labels are doing it, man,they might I think they're just doing the
vault. You know, the volumeof the streaming and I talked to a
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few of the smaller labels and howthey they're licensing deals to these bands,
and you know, there's not alot of them are getting any significant money
up front. But that's it's notas catastrophic as it was before because you
know, it doesn't take twenty fivethousand dollars some big a record anymore.
You know. Well, that's that'swhere I was going with this question.
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It's just there's over abundancy of justmusic. And you know, it's not
like the olden days where you havea you hear a demo and it sounds
like some dude recording it on hisboombox in the basement. Now these are
broadcast quality recordings. They're all digital. But there's just there's just so much
out there that after a while,I'm just listening, Sean, I'm telling
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you, like, you know,I'll sit down an hour couple hours on
the weekend and just go through thisand nothing just grabs you. It's just
it wasn't until Jarvis lether B Ihad a chance to talk with him in
the spring when the New syrath Unglecame out and we got on I mean
we're on the phone for like twohours I could. Yeah, he's a
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great dude. I missed talking tohim. I need to call him.
You know. He's telling me aboutthe whole traditional wave of British heavy metal
movement and he was turning me ontothese bands. And that's where I'm finding
a lot of the stuff that iswell my personal preference, you know,
the Enforcers and the Night Demons anda lot of those. I can't do,
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the Cookie Monster bands I tried,and so it's a nice, nice
little pocket. You know, bandslike like the Outfits you do that,
that's great stuff. The musicians killit, the vocals are there, you
know, you could go there andit's like almost old school. So you
know, you know what I reallyliked um last year was the James Durban
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record he put out. Yeah,I got into that. That was good
stuff. And and then now wegot Case Priests. I mean, that's
just a solid heavy metal record.So you'll find little hidden gems, man.
But I'm like you, I'm lookingfor a song that I hear it
and I want to play it,like, you know, ten times in
a row. Like that's I'm lookingfor those those magic moments, and sometimes
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it's hard to find, like there'sa lot of bands with a lot of
talent. Every guitar shrez, singersgreat. But you know, you just
where is that the song that justlike kicks your ass? That's what I'm
looking for, you know. Youknow, then you're going old school.
You'll like to get into a bandand then go see them live and grow
with the band. And yeah,that's why I'm excited about like your tour
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and just some of these other ones. It's I think we're all just hung
well. The Three Tremors, youknow, the Three Tremors is a band.
It's not a project. We've donelike I think seventy shows together.
We're going to throw another twenty onhere. So you know, we we
wanted we put that out like rightright away, like before the record was
out. We were too ring inEurope. So we're like, this isn't
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you know, a Frontiers Records AllStar project. It's never you know,
you can cycle, you can youcan emotionally and monetarily invest in this band,
and you can put that patch onyour jacket and you can wear that
patch jacket to the show because we'recoming to see you, and you know,
and it's a it's a cool thing. It's it's different. You know,
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it's got three singers, it doesn'thave one singer and really great songs.
So is the is the Cage guystouring? Is it the touring band?
Yeah, it's the We just wejust did some two Ripper solo shows
out here with Cage as the band, which was pretty cool. I went
up and sang a couple of trackswith them, but it was Ripper solo
shows. So we're we're a bigheavy metal street game. Man. Not
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only are we, you know,in the band together, but we're all,
you know, friends. We talkon the phone, like I'll call
Ripper and we won't even talk aboutmusic, you know sometimes. So it's
I'm in it for the fun ofit and in the enjoyment, you know.
So I want to be with peoplethat I enjoy being around. And
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like we the seven of us reallybonded. It's like, I mean,
we have a blast on the broadlike performing Spun but all the other ship.
Even when shit goes haywire, youknow, it's fun. Like we've
had the band's breakdown. We brokedown one hundred miles outside of Pittsburgh and
there's literally like Amish wagons going backand forth like there's no uber, there's
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no taxi, there's nothing out here, and we're standing at the gas station.
I literally flagged down cars and andconvinced PiZZ some people to drive us
one hundred miles into Pittsburgh so wecan make the show happen. So there's
been like you know, and andthat kind of stuff's fun and we've we're
the camaraderie makes it really enjoyable andand people can feel that on stage during
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during this song, it's like streetlethal, deadly heavy metal. But in
between the songs, it's literally likea stand up comedy show between me and
Ripper and Harry. Now we're justmaking jokes the whole time. So it's
run man, quick, roll call. What's going on with Death Dealer?
Death Dealer. Death Dealer's got anew EP coming out December fifth. We
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were about to start in the pressmode of that. The EP is killer,
like four insane songs, vinyls,the whole usual incredible packet of stuff.
It's called Fuel Injected Suicide Machine andit's a mad Max Vibe kind of
thing. Then there's a Death Dealer. The fourth Death Dealer album is completely
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finished. That'll come out next year, and there's even a fifth album that's
pretty much finished for Death Dealer.So if Death Dealer is far as the
eye can see Cage, we havetwenty songs at least. That album is
called Dungeon craws Aller and it hasa really insane unique physical product component to
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it that I can't reveal yet,but it is super super cool. That'll
come out next year, probably junish. And then I've done a bunch of
guest stuff that's coming out, andwe also have I have a something else
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that's really huge in the works becauseI didn't have enough bands. Also the
Warrior thing. You know, wedid a show with Warrior that was great,
So I think we're gonna do somelive Warrior shows out here on the
West Coast maybe and maybe maybe we'llrecord some songs. I don't know.
It's have a good time with thoseguys. And then I have another you
know thing coming out that'll be hugenews. It's it's kind of related,
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you know, back to the DinnerSherman stuff that I was doing. All
kinds of metal coming you got ittogether Stone, It's well, like I
said, the metal Visionary, Ilove it, so yeah, so come
check us out on that metalstation dotcom. We have jocks from around the
world. It's twenty four hours ofmetal. I got it up right now.
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Man, this looks cool. Yeah, it is cool. You know,
we all do a labor of love, but you know, we take
it seriously. And it's cool becauseyou know, you get people in this
chat room. They're all over theplace. You know, you got guys
talking to each other, ones inPhilly, ones and since one guy's in
the Bronx, and the metal communityis where it's at. And you know,
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we love the old stuff, butmy job here is to bring in
the new stuff as well. Socool man, Well you do you a
great job and thanks for having me. Congratulations. Tomorrow the new Three Tremors
release drops, Guardians of the Void. It's the second full length. Go
to steelkarttel dot com or the ThreeTremors dot com and definitely check out the
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YouTube page. If you like blisteringheavy metal and funny funny jokes, YouTube
dot com, slash Steel Cartel andpick it up on Amazon or wherever you
got to get it. Support thephysical product. Support the physical product.
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VIP listener. His name's Charlie Avino, and he went on YouTube and on
his own he watched the interview thatI did with Marty Dooda. It was
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celebrating the Ozzy Osbourne after our appearanceback at WUHF in Rochester, New York
in nineteen eighty one. Charlie commentedon it, and he mentioned that he
was in the audience that night.He was a young musician, a fresh
out of college working in the Rochesterarea. So I got in touch with
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him and I have him on heretonight to tell his story. Let's do
it. Hey, Charlie, what'sup, Buddy oh Man? Feeling good?
Great, great evening here. It'sNathan Cool. Heatwave is over.
What do you guys want to knowabout that show? I was there?
You were there, Well, let'sget right to it. Spill the beans
while give us this paint the picture, Charlie, what are you go?
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Marty Dudam was the president, ifyou want to call him that of out
of print records, we also thoughtthat was kind of fun. Gives my
lead guitar player or call Eric thatsays, hey, you guys want to
go see Azzy? You know,I'm thinking, yeah, they're incouncing,
Yeah, sure, let's all go. He goes, No, they're making
a video down on each stab atthe at the studio, at the sound
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stage, and I'm like, countme, and we drive down there.
We walk right in. There's noVIP, no nonsense. We just walk
take the elevator right up. Ithink it's about the third floor. We
walk in and there's Azzy, RandyRhodes, Uh, Tommy, all your
hits, Rudy Sarzo there, they'rejust standing around in there, um rock
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and roll outfits, you know.There there their stage gear, the marshals
are stacked. The huge drum setsover in the corner. And I thought
I had died and gone to heavenand that's that's the setup. And I
literally I don't think there was anymore than thirty people. Marty said thirty.
I remember twenty. But you knowwho we're dibbling here. Oh yeah,
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it's forty years ago. You know, the story changes. So so
the band's there. And were youa Sabbath fan? You knew who Azzi
was? Absolutely? Oh are youkidding? I had seen them in Madison
Square Garden as a younger teenager.And you know, everyone knew the story
of Ozzy. You know, histroubles losing uh, you know, his
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his job there with with Sabbath.But we were well aware that he was
on the comeback trail. And here'sa chance to see, you know,
someone you absolutely admired. Um asa young teenager. I think I'm like
twenty something at that point. Yeah, I'm twenty two, and I'm like,
I get to see Ozzie up close, and I was out of my
mind. So, um, tellus about the gig. They played four
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or five songs. Uh, keepyeah, they've played four songs. They
didn't each twice. That's how Isat there and learned. I was in
a really hard working band at thetime, and I watched them do their
work, and that's what I tookaway the most was how professional they were.
They had to do each song twiceso they could get different camera angles,
so that meant they had to playalmost exactly the same way twice,
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which it's tough if you playing bands, it doesn't always go that well.
And that's what they did, andwhat really what really stands out and then
everyone knows it. If you've seenin the video, Randy Rhodes is on
fire, and we knew about himfrom Quiet Riot, But you know,
when you see someone back close,we were literally four away. Anyone could
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have reached out and touched anyone onthat stage, except maybe you know,
Tommy Aldred's back there on drums.The marshals were stacked, and Randy Rhodes
was on fire, and the guyis so shy. They they end the
they've done a song. Then he'dlooked down at his feet a little bit
and twiddled with his guitar right,and then in between each song they would
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take a break. And I rememberthis clearly. Sharon was there. They
weren't married yet, and Ozzie andCharon are sifting tea. Now they were
coffee cups. But you know,it could have been anything in there,
but it certainly didn't seem like itwas alcohol or anything great. And no
one everyone else was just hanging out, drinking out soft drinks. And that's
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what really got I got to seeprofessionals act professional. It was time to
do their job, you know,they would just walk around the quiet.
Tommy Aldrich could not have been nicer. Took me back by his drum set.
We taught drums. I'm a drummer. He showed me how he cleaned
his symbols so beautifully. It wasjust it was it was a lifetime you
know, dream, a dream thingthat happened to you. Any autographs,
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any pictures, any memorabilion. Youknow, I didn't think of it,
and I didn't think it would beappropriate because we were invited a special guest,
and you know, you didn't wantto act like the fan. Those
guys literally treated us like fellow musicians. You know, Rose is painfully shy,
but I know my guitar player hada few words with him, just
very few. They talked about,you know, is less Paul or something.
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My buddy had a less Paul.Just real musicians small talk. And
that's what I have taken away allthe time, because I was able to
be backstage for a bunch of showsthroughout my career, is how professional almost
all bands are. And I've seena few bands be completely unprofessional, especially
near the end of a show.Maybe they're doing too many shots or something,
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and you go, oh, Idon't want to be like that.
But those guys were professional, andthat's what I took away from it.
Did you speak with Ozzie? Uh? No, I thought Ozzie had that
a tiny entourage around him. I'mpretty sure Marty talked with you know,
Marty Dudah, but I gave Sharonwas dominating him at that point. You
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could tell, you know, wereally didn't know who she was at the
time. And then you know,then they became famous again. Oh that
was the woman. She was literallyguarding the guy. She was never more
than a step or two away fromhim, and except when he sang,
so no one really got to talkto Ozzy. So you knew Marty from
college. Give me a brief history. Oh, we met my freshman year.
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He was running the uh the radiostation, or had a lot to
do with it, and he gotme to play drums for charity for twenty
four hours at a time in thestudent union and I did it. They
gave me like a five minute break, you know, every hour, and
I played drums for twenty four hoursto raise money. And my roommate was
the heavy freshman heavyweight wrestler, youknow, Brockport's very famous for wrestling.
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He stood on his head for twentyfour hours. The guy was a you
know, incredible, you know,crazy man athlete. So we had so
much fun and I remember just sleepingfor like a day afterwards. But so
Marty and I go way back.We trade did uh. I needed a
good Rats album? He had it, the first one, tasty, So
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I traded a Crack the Sky album. I hat. He took her right
out of the radio station. Youknow, I don't care about it anymore.
I had like one of the fewcopies of that first Good Rats album,
So Martie and I just went back. We ran in the same circles.
That's all. That's great. Thatwas the seventies, That's what it
was all about, Luckey oh Man, the albums I was. I went
into that that studios. Hey,you guys got tasty by the Good Rats
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together, and Marty was yeah,because what do you got? And I
said, what do you want?And I had to go buy that record.
I was able to find it atthe record grove or whatever it was
called in Brockport and we slopped,so, you know, I blew all
my friends way down in Rockland County. I had an actual album of you
know, because a Warner Brothers droppedthem, you know, that's the way
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it worked back then. But stillowned the rights. Yeah all right,
Well, hey, Charlie Avino,thanks for taking a walk down heavy metal
memory lane. We appreciate the input. It was. It was just a
great time and I just wanted tosay one last thing here. You guys
would not believe the volume in thatSmall Sounds Gage. Those marshals were on.
They were double stacked and your hairwent back on the back of your
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neck, your your your hair stut, it's stood, and it was just
absolute experience of a lifetime. RandyRhodes is the master, and I hate
to tell you guys this, butI got to see him four feet away.
That's that's impressive. But that's funny. That's ironic that you mentioned that
that it was so loud, becausein some of these comments and listeners,
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you could, if you haven't yet, go to YouTube and look under the
Metal Mayhem ROC channel and you'll seethe interview. But some listeners have commented
that were there than um, whatis it that the cameras, Yes,
the tubes and the cameras of Wobble, that's loud. It was, but
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you know, you playing rock bandsback in the seventies and eighties, you
ate it up. We used tohave an expression, if it's too loud,
you're too old. Yeah. Yeah, So all right, Charlie,
Well we'll let you get see backto your Saturday night. All right,
all right, we'll talk to yousoon. Take care, every buddy,
fantastic, Thank you everyone, seeyou later, Bye bye. That's Charlie
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Avino, bigtime listener sharing his RandyRhodes experience. So that's tonight show.
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It's pretty cool. Tonight's show,we have a couple interviews. The first
one is with Shaun Peck of TheThree Tremors. Now, if you're not
familiar with The Three Tremors, it'sa Sean Peck of Cage and Death Dealer
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and like three or four other projects. Tim Ripper Owens of the new KKSE
Priest outfit and formerly the replacement forRob he Alford and Judas Priest, and
Harry Conklin from jag Panzer old metalband from the eighties. While these guys
have just released their second full eighthalbum under the name of the band the
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Three Tremors. New album comes outtomorrow. It's called Guardians of the Void.
And actually last night, November third, they started a US tour and
dates are up at three Tremors dotcom. Their touring around the country playing
music from their first two albums andthen music from all their singers careers.
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So we're gonna talk with Sean injust a minute. The second half,
it's a Night's show. I doan interview with a listener of the show,
Charlie Avino. He's an old timerocker. He happened to go on
YouTube and saw the interview clip thatI did with Marty Dooda, the guy
that booked Ozzy Osbourne for that famousafter hours performance in Rochester forty years ago.
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While Charlie was there that night atthe taping as a young twentysomething,
your old musician. He saw theclip I did with Marty, really loved
it, got in touch with me, so I did an interview with him,
and he gives us his account ofthe night, how he met Ozzy
and Sharon was talking with Tommy Aldridgeand Randy Rhodes, and just another view
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know him from Cage Death Dealer inhis latest out fit, Three Tremors.
Let's welcome back to Metal Mayhem Rocmetal visionary, Sean pack Man, metal
visionary. That sound has a nicering to it. I'd dig that.
Thank you, you know, ofcourse, using any anytime. Congratulations.
Tomorrow, the new Three Tremors releasedrops Guardians of the Void. It's the
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second full length. Tell us alittle bit about the project. Well,
of well, I just went ontothe metal station dot com. That's cool.
I just logged that in and myfavorite so I'm going to check that
out. That looks really cool.The album drops. I don't know if
we're live or whatever, but thealbum drops November fifth, actually, but
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we have a we have a singleout already. The pre orders are at
the three Tremors dot com. They'regoing like crazy. The response has been
fantastic. Um, we have youknow, we're we're we kind of run
our own label with this and theother stuff that I put out and in
some friends bands called Steelcartel to Steelcarteldot com and YouTube slash Steel Cartel,
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and we're well known for um forhaving incredible pre order packages. We've got
socked. We got three Tremors sockswe got off. So the ration has
been fantastic. Man, we onlyput out one song. We've got a
couple other videos coming out before thetour hits. So looking forward to people,
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you know, actually hearing the record. The album is never going to
hit Spotify. You will never beable to hear this album for free.
Like every other record in the world. We release three songs, you know,
three videos. That gives you enoughidea whether you're gonna want to,
you know, buy the record ornot. But you know, CD sales
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are up, Vinyl sales are up, CD players and record players sales are
up. And you know, luckilyin the heavy metal genre, people like
to have the physical product, andyou know, our physical product is second
to none. It is incredible lookand the artwork is insane, sixteen panel
booklets with all original art on everysingle page. The vinyls are you know,
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incredible. So even if you're notbuying one of our crazy bundle packages
and you're just picking up the CDon Amazon, you know it's worth the
fifteen bucks to support the BA Andum, I'm taking a stand against Spotify
and all these streaming platforms like Fridayrolls around and every single album in the
world is just free for everybody toconsume. And you know, we we
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like it that our fans and metalheads value the music. You know,
the music has value, and weget supported greatly by the people that that
dig it. And you know,more people need to take a stand like
this. You know it's not youwork. We worked super hard and spend
lots of money on promotion and advertisingand artwork and recording, and just to
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have the album out for free rightwhen it comes out it makes zero sense
to me. We used to bein a music economy where there was no
free music, and you know,you can record a tape and trade tapes
maybe, but now, um,we're we just don't you know. I've
toured the Spotify headquarters. We gota private tour back in the day with
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that dealer and it's disgusting. Man, They're just no one there does a
damn thing. But I'll sitting thereheadpaters doing nothing. They have a huge
multimillion dollar gaming center where there wheretheir employees can you know, play video
games if they're too stressed. They'vegot this kitchen where it's like everything it's
free. You can eat and drinkto your heart's content. And I was
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there with Ross the Boss and hewas just fuming that he was going to
pop a vein. How sick toa stomach he was. And yeah,
you know, and a lot ofpeople are giving us props for having this
stand. Last time you're on theshow is about a year ago when The
Conquered Lands was released, and youmentioned in that interview that there was a
side thought of maybe starting a heavymetal quote Spotify something where it would just
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be metal bands and it would bea little better compensation for the bands.
Is that something you followed up onor was it just a no. I
mean, I'm too much of asmall fry to make anything like that happened.
I don't think it's real. Imean, after talking to people in
the industry, it's not possible becauseof all the contracts that are already in
existence. But you know, ifall the big metal labels got together and
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made their own thing, I mean, that would be that would be a
great way to go. But it'snever gonna happen. It's just a it's
another SHAMPEC pipe dream. Well,it sounded like a good idea. Let's
talk about the Guardians of the Void. Quick question. Was this a planned
post death Dealer released? The firstone was twenty nineteen, the first three
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Tremors. How did this one comeabout? Well, we always knew we
were going to make a new record. It was going to come out in
twenty twenty two, but because wegot this, this window of opportunity to
do it a US tour, weput it out earlier. You know.
The KKSE priest thing gave us anopportun tunity to a little window to to
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make some shows happen in North America. So we jumped on it, pushed
up the release. Um, andthere's always going to be another record for
sure, you know. And thenbecause of the k CASE priesting you know,
our our drummer from Cage and theThree Tremors is also in KKSE Priest
with Ripper. So performing is reallythe number one payoff that's for a musician.
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That is the you know, thatis the the big pot of gold
at the end of the rainbow.That's the funnest part. The second funnest
part is you know, talking topeople like you about it that are really
interested in it. So I wantto give you, you know, props
and thanks for all the hard workthat you do in the Passion project that
you got with your show and everything, and then you know, creating the
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songs and and seeing other people enjoywhat you created. I always say,
like, you know, artists thatpainted painting, it sits in a gallery,
some people stare that's amazing. Butmusic, you know, with social
media, you get people hitting youup and commenting. I mean, you
get a lot of reaction from music, which is really gratifying to the person
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creating the song. You know,you get people saying this fucking thing kicks
ass, or you get reviews thatyou know say that it's good or what
they like they didn't like about it, and it's it's very gratifying. From
an artist standpoint, because there's nota lot of art genres where you get
that kind of feedback, So it'skind of a cool thing. But yeah,
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let's round up the roster. TimRipper Owens from Judas Priest, KKs
Priest, and a whole list ofothers. And Harry Cocklin, better known
as the Tyrant Harry goes old School. I remember back in the eighties with
that jag pans or stuff. Iwas digging that back in eighty one eighty
two Underground Legends. Yeah, butthe tour starts eleven three in Connecticut and
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you were talking about, you know, creating your creative person. Well,
unfortunately last year or two you havebeen able to get out there and play.
So how does it feel to actuallybook a tour and do you have
the confidence? Well we only gotlike fifteen twenty dates on this leg,
but do you feel confident that theseare going to happen? Yeah? We
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you know, I see all thesetours canceling. They've got a giant,
you know, network of crew,and we're lean and mean man. So
like if one of the guys inthe band gets you know, the sniffles
the shows going on, we don'thave crew guys. If they get sick,
it's gonna fall apart and have somedomino effect. I mean, you
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know, some of the guys inthe band have had COVID already. We've
been we think we all had COVIDback in December twenty nineteen, before it
was cool coming off. We wereall sick as hell, lost our taste,
so we were probably you know,patients zero back then. We've been
vaccinated, and so we're we're feelingpretty confident. I've been out at you
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know, I just was at Ripperand I just went to the Charger game
with seventy thousand Browns and Chargers fans, no masks, you know, elbow
to elbow. So we're feeling prettyconfident that we're gonna get through these shows.
And the reaction has been great.Man, some of them are selling
out, and you know, peopleare hitting me up every day that they're
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coming. And because Judas Priest isn'ton the road anymore, this is kind
of really the only thing in thisyou know zone that like this on the
road right now, so I thinkpeople are excited about it. Yeah,
we have a Rochester date on thetwelfth, and then the Buffalo the thirteenth,
So you're spending a weekend in WesternNew York looking forward to these shows.
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Bill's Mafia. I can't wait toI can't wait to get out there,
you know, play some new venues. And the show is insane.
Man, anybody who's in the medallistening out there, You've never seen anything
like this. It's like saying heavymetal, speed metal band with three singers
that are you know, kind ofsecond to not Yeah, you know not,
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I mean Harry and Ripper, areyou know, unmatched? I'm just
okay, But it's you know,with the three of us up there at
the same time, with the waythe band is and everything, it's super
powerful. And when we did thatfirst europe tour, there would always be
some guy would come up to meafter the show like, may I speak
with you for a second, likesome heavy I have seen all the one
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thousand shows and this was one ofthe greatest shows I have ever seen.
And so we were getting that likeall the time for these hardcore metal people.
So it's really encouraging and like yougot to come in and check it
out live. Are you guys takingsolos? Are you playing stuff from your
bad catalog? Is it just thethree Tremor releases. What's the set list?
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Well, last time we did youknow, a song from each of
our catalog or we did some covers, but this is going to be you
know, seven songs up the firstrecord, seven songs up the second record,
and maybe one or two cover.So it's going to be definitely three
Tremor centric. But you know alot of those songs. Bone Breakers,
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you know, we're doing really good. That's a single that we got out
so far. We'll have another singleout by the time the tour starts.
Crucifier, which is another really goodone. And if people love those,
you know, the first albums,so we decided to pull back from the
heavy cover thing and we're only todo, like I said, one or
two in there and go really Tremorcentric and I think people are gonna love
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it. Now. Going back tothe first one you did that you had
offered that studio session the solo.Do you have any plans to do that
for this release? Well, wekeep getting asked about. I mean,
we had them and they're amazing.It's just a matter of you know,
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Dave Percy of the guitar player andengineer who did this the album sounds killer
man. The production on this albumis like he hit a home run.
I'm just thinking the drone sound likea helicopter flying over your over your house.
It's insane. Um, it's youknow, he's got a mix and
master thirty six songs. It's alot. He's not too excited about tackling
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that. So let's we'll give hima little break for a while. Well,
he's got to finish this new Cagerecord, and maybe I can hit
him up to do that towards theend of next year. But right now
he's telling me to go jump ina lake. If I said, hey,
dude, we gotta mix those thirtysix d yeah, I didn't exactly
set that up correctly for the peoplelistening. On the last release, the
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first one, the band did somethingunique where SOO the solo where each singer
did the entire album, the wholelineup alone. So you had three versions
actually probably four versions the studio withall of them doing it, and then
each singer did the entire album justthem singing. So that's yeah, I
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guess, uh, yeah, thatwould be a problem for the mixer.
He has to you know, remixall that in But Yeah. People loved
it though, and there's some incrediblesolo versions. I mean, they really
really should get them out there becausethey're just some amazing versions of the song.
So um, yeah, maybe oneday, but it's not, it's
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not imminently in the plans. We'retalking with Sean Peck the Hell Destroyer,
one of three guys from the ThreeTremors, along with Tim rip Rowans and
Harry the Tyrant Conklin. New albumdrops tomorrow on Steel Kurtzel Records. What's
what's the cap on these rooms you'redoing? Is it a five hundred fifteen
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hundred of variety because no, no, these are smaller, you know,
two hundred to four hundred seeders.So we're still we're still growing the band,
but it's been growing. Like Isaid, the pre orders are bigger
than the last release. The ticketsales are much better than the last tours.
So um, and you know,it just keeps. It's a slow
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build, but it's fun that way, you know, we we we I
enjoy I enjoy rooms like that.I enjoy a packed small room with a
hundred people at it. It's youknow, the enthusiasm is just fantastic.
My top ten most memorable shows likeyou. I wouldn't even put Vacan in
the top twenty as far as howI enjoyed myself and the crowd reactions.
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So just because you're you know,musicians out there, everyone wants to play
the big festivals, but they're they'renot always that gratifying as you know,
a nice packed midsize room to meanyways. Yeah, and as a fan,
I'm not going to any of thesebig festivals because when you see the
bands, Yeah you got twenty bands, but you know what, the sets
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they're playing, there is no roomfor, no wiggle room in it.
So I'm getting excited about going,like to this the night Book. Yeah,
it's going to be good. Thenight before Black Label Societies in town
up at the Armory. Oh yeah, I know. It's a you know,
it's an eight hundred seat plays it'sa little bigger, but the intimacy
is there, so stuff we're lookingfor. I was Zach Wild's guitar check
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for like ten shows. I don'teven know how to turn an amp on.
It was. That was quite aThat was quite adventure. We did
the Battle all when Death Dealer openedfor the Metal All Stars, Stu and
I we were Zach's text for likethe the uh the ten shows. It
was wild, we got we becamereally you know, good good buddies with
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Zach and told some fun story.Zack's a good guy and met him wants
he was cool, met him upwith the rock house of guitars. I'm
sure that that show will contain atwenty minute guitar solo that he just loves
to do. You know, let'ssee a couple of questions in Steel Cartel.
Now, when I'm involved with theradio station and looking at new music
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and doing research, you know,I work with all the publicists and the
record companies. You know, I'mgetting bombarded with stuff daily, and there's
just so much out there. There'sso many avenues to discover new music.
And can anyone get on a labeland has it lost its luster throughout the
years? I don't know, man, I mean, you know, you
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want to put an album out,you know basically, you know, people
that are in young, new bandsthey want to be on a label and
they think that's going to get them. Yeah, you know, shows and
the labels want you know, bandsthat are willing to sleep in the van
and just play three hundred dates ayear and just really grind it. That's
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why, you know, when weput out the Death Dealer thing, like
these labels like this album is great, but you're a bunch of old dudes
and you're not gonna You're not gonnago out and you know you do the
freaking dirty works, sleep on thefloor and you know all that stuff.
So um, and you know,obviously the revenue from the music business is
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not what it is because the physicalunits don't sell anything like they used to.
So you know, if you ifyou have taken a chance on a
new band, it's you know,it's like it seems like you're gonna lose
money no matter what. So Idon't you know, that's why on my
label, I do my stuff andthen my friends bands. But you know,
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as far you know, other bandsare hitting me up all the time
like hey man, you know we'relooking for a label, and I'm like,
sounds killer, but I'm not youknow, I'm not excited about losing
fifteen thousand dollars on your band.Um. So I don't know how these
labels are doing it, man,they might I think they're just doing the
vault. You know, the volumeof the streaming and I talked to a
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few of the smaller labels and howthey they're licensing deals to these bands,
and you know, there's not alot of them are getting any significant money
up front. But that's it's notas catastrophic as it was before because you
know, it doesn't take twenty fivethousand dollars some big a record anymore.
You know. Well, that's that'swhere I was going with this question.
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It's just there's over abundancy of justmusic. And you know, it's not
like the olden days where you havea you hear a demo and it sounds
like some dude recording it on hisboombox in the basement. Now these are
broadcast quality recordings. They're all digital. But there's just there's just so much
out there that after a while,I'm just listening, Sean, I'm telling
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you, like, you know,I'll sit down an hour couple hours on
the weekend and just go through thisand nothing just grabs you. It's just
it wasn't until Jarvis lether B Ihad a chance to talk with him in
the spring when the New syrath Unglecame out and we got on I mean
we're on the phone for like twohours I could. Yeah, he's a
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great dude. I missed talking tohim. I need to call him.
You know. He's telling me aboutthe whole traditional wave of British heavy metal
movement and he was turning me ontothese bands. And that's where I'm finding
a lot of the stuff that iswell my personal preference, you know,
the Enforcers and the Night Demons anda lot of those. I can't do,
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the Cookie Monster bands I tried,and so it's a nice, nice
little pocket. You know, bandslike like the Outfits you do that,
that's great stuff. The musicians killit, the vocals are there, you
know, you could go there andit's like almost old school. So you
know, you know what I reallyliked um last year was the James Durban
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record he put out. Yeah,I got into that. That was good
stuff. And and then now wegot Case Priests. I mean, that's
just a solid heavy metal record.So you'll find little hidden gems, man.
But I'm like you, I'm lookingfor a song that I hear it
and I want to play it,like, you know, ten times in
a row. Like that's I'm lookingfor those those magic moments, and sometimes
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it's hard to find, like there'sa lot of bands with a lot of
talent. Every guitar shrez, singersgreat. But you know, you just
where is that the song that justlike kicks your ass? That's what I'm
looking for, you know. Youknow, then you're going old school.
You'll like to get into a bandand then go see them live and grow
with the band. And yeah,that's why I'm excited about like your tour
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and just some of these other ones. It's I think we're all just hung
well. The Three Tremors, youknow, the Three Tremors is a band.
It's not a project. We've donelike I think seventy shows together.
We're going to throw another twenty onhere. So you know, we we
wanted we put that out like rightright away, like before the record was
out. We were too ring inEurope. So we're like, this isn't
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you know, a Frontiers Records AllStar project. It's never you know,
you can cycle, you can youcan emotionally and monetarily invest in this band,
and you can put that patch onyour jacket and you can wear that
patch jacket to the show because we'recoming to see you, and you know,
and it's a it's a cool thing. It's it's different. You know,
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it's got three singers, it doesn'thave one singer and really great songs.
So is the is the Cage guystouring? Is it the touring band?
Yeah, it's the We just wejust did some two Ripper solo shows
out here with Cage as the band, which was pretty cool. I went
up and sang a couple of trackswith them, but it was Ripper solo
shows. So we're we're a bigheavy metal street game. Man. Not
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only are we, you know,in the band together, but we're all,
you know, friends. We talkon the phone, like I'll call
Ripper and we won't even talk aboutmusic, you know sometimes. So it's
I'm in it for the fun ofit and in the enjoyment, you know.
So I want to be with peoplethat I enjoy being around. And
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like we the seven of us reallybonded. It's like, I mean,
we have a blast on the broadlike performing Spun but all the other ship.
Even when shit goes haywire, youknow, it's fun. Like we've
had the band's breakdown. We brokedown one hundred miles outside of Pittsburgh and
there's literally like Amish wagons going backand forth like there's no uber, there's
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no taxi, there's nothing out here, and we're standing at the gas station.
I literally flagged down cars and andconvinced PiZZ some people to drive us
one hundred miles into Pittsburgh so wecan make the show happen. So there's
been like you know, and andthat kind of stuff's fun and we've we're
the camaraderie makes it really enjoyable andand people can feel that on stage during
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during this song, it's like streetlethal, deadly heavy metal. But in
between the songs, it's literally likea stand up comedy show between me and
Ripper and Harry. Now we're justmaking jokes the whole time. So it's
run man, quick, roll call. What's going on with Death Dealer?
Death Dealer. Death Dealer's got anew EP coming out December fifth. We
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were about to start in the pressmode of that. The EP is killer,
like four insane songs, vinyls,the whole usual incredible packet of stuff.
It's called Fuel Injected Suicide Machine andit's a mad Max Vibe kind of
thing. Then there's a Death Dealer. The fourth Death Dealer album is completely
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finished. That'll come out next year, and there's even a fifth album that's
pretty much finished for Death Dealer.So if Death Dealer is far as the
eye can see Cage, we havetwenty songs at least. That album is
called Dungeon craws Aller and it hasa really insane unique physical product component to
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it that I can't reveal yet,but it is super super cool. That'll
come out next year, probably junish. And then I've done a bunch of
guest stuff that's coming out, andwe also have I have a something else
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that's really huge in the works becauseI didn't have enough bands. Also the
Warrior thing. You know, wedid a show with Warrior that was great,
So I think we're gonna do somelive Warrior shows out here on the
West Coast maybe and maybe maybe we'llrecord some songs. I don't know.
It's have a good time with thoseguys. And then I have another you
know thing coming out that'll be hugenews. It's it's kind of related,
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you know, back to the DinnerSherman stuff that I was doing. All
kinds of metal coming you got ittogether Stone, It's well, like I
said, the metal Visionary, Ilove it, so yeah, so come
check us out on that metalstation dotcom. We have jocks from around the
world. It's twenty four hours ofmetal. I got it up right now.
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Man, this looks cool. Yeah, it is cool. You know,
we all do a labor of love, but you know, we take
it seriously. And it's cool becauseyou know, you get people in this
chat room. They're all over theplace. You know, you got guys
talking to each other, ones inPhilly, ones and since one guy's in
the Bronx, and the metal communityis where it's at. And you know,
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we love the old stuff, butmy job here is to bring in
the new stuff as well. Socool man, Well you do you a
great job and thanks for having me. Congratulations. Tomorrow the new Three Tremors
release drops, Guardians of the Void. It's the second full length. Go
to steelkarttel dot com or the ThreeTremors dot com and definitely check out the
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YouTube page. If you like blisteringheavy metal and funny funny jokes, YouTube
dot com, slash Steel Cartel andpick it up on Amazon or wherever you
got to get it. Support thephysical product. Support the physical product.
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ROC. So tonight, I havea very special interview. I have a
VIP listener. His name's Charlie Avino, and he went on YouTube and on
his own he watched the interview thatI did with Marty Dooda. It was
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celebrating the Ozzy Osbourne after our appearanceback at WUHF in Rochester, New York
in nineteen eighty one. Charlie commentedon it, and he mentioned that he
was in the audience that night.He was a young musician, a fresh
out of college working in the Rochesterarea. So I got in touch with
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him and I have him on heretonight to tell his story. Let's do
it. Hey, Charlie, what'sup, Buddy oh Man? Feeling good?
Great, great evening here. It'sNathan Cool. Heatwave is over.
What do you guys want to knowabout that show? I was there?
You were there, Well, let'sget right to it. Spill the beans
while give us this paint the picture, Charlie, what are you go?
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Marty Dudam was the president, ifyou want to call him that of out
of print records, we also thoughtthat was kind of fun. Gives my
lead guitar player or call Eric thatsays, hey, you guys want to
go see Azzy? You know,I'm thinking, yeah, they're incouncing,
Yeah, sure, let's all go. He goes, No, they're making
a video down on each stab atthe at the studio, at the sound
(32:30):
stage, and I'm like, countme, and we drive down there.
We walk right in. There's noVIP, no nonsense. We just walk
take the elevator right up. Ithink it's about the third floor. We
walk in and there's Azzy, RandyRhodes, Uh, Tommy, all your
hits, Rudy Sarzo there, they'rejust standing around in there, um rock
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and roll outfits, you know.There there their stage gear, the marshals
are stacked. The huge drum setsover in the corner. And I thought
I had died and gone to heavenand that's that's the setup. And I
literally I don't think there was anymore than thirty people. Marty said thirty.
I remember twenty. But you knowwho we're dibbling here. Oh yeah,
(33:14):
it's forty years ago. You know, the story changes. So so
the band's there. And were youa Sabbath fan? You knew who Azzi
was? Absolutely? Oh are youkidding? I had seen them in Madison
Square Garden as a younger teenager.And you know, everyone knew the story
of Ozzy. You know, histroubles losing uh, you know, his
(33:34):
his job there with with Sabbath.But we were well aware that he was
on the comeback trail. And here'sa chance to see, you know,
someone you absolutely admired. Um asa young teenager. I think I'm like
twenty something at that point. Yeah, I'm twenty two, and I'm like,
I get to see Ozzie up close, and I was out of my
mind. So, um, tellus about the gig. They played four
(33:57):
or five songs. Uh, keepyeah, they've played four songs. They
didn't each twice. That's how Isat there and learned. I was in
a really hard working band at thetime, and I watched them do their
work, and that's what I tookaway the most was how professional they were.
They had to do each song twiceso they could get different camera angles,
so that meant they had to playalmost exactly the same way twice,
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which it's tough if you playing bands, it doesn't always go that well.
And that's what they did, andwhat really what really stands out and then
everyone knows it. If you've seenin the video, Randy Rhodes is on
fire, and we knew about himfrom Quiet Riot, But you know,
when you see someone back close,we were literally four away. Anyone could
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have reached out and touched anyone onthat stage, except maybe you know,
Tommy Aldred's back there on drums.The marshals were stacked, and Randy Rhodes
was on fire, and the guyis so shy. They they end the
they've done a song. Then he'dlooked down at his feet a little bit
and twiddled with his guitar right,and then in between each song they would
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take a break. And I rememberthis clearly. Sharon was there. They
weren't married yet, and Ozzie andCharon are sifting tea. Now they were
coffee cups. But you know,it could have been anything in there,
but it certainly didn't seem like itwas alcohol or anything great. And no
one everyone else was just hanging out, drinking out soft drinks. And that's
(35:27):
what really got I got to seeprofessionals act professional. It was time to
do their job, you know,they would just walk around the quiet.
Tommy Aldrich could not have been nicer. Took me back by his drum set.
We taught drums. I'm a drummer. He showed me how he cleaned
his symbols so beautifully. It wasjust it was it was a lifetime you
know, dream, a dream thingthat happened to you. Any autographs,
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any pictures, any memorabilion. Youknow, I didn't think of it,
and I didn't think it would beappropriate because we were invited a special guest,
and you know, you didn't wantto act like the fan. Those
guys literally treated us like fellow musicians. You know, Rose is painfully shy,
but I know my guitar player hada few words with him, just
very few. They talked about,you know, is less Paul or something.
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My buddy had a less Paul.Just real musicians small talk. And
that's what I have taken away allthe time, because I was able to
be backstage for a bunch of showsthroughout my career, is how professional almost
all bands are. And I've seena few bands be completely unprofessional, especially
near the end of a show.Maybe they're doing too many shots or something,
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and you go, oh, Idon't want to be like that.
But those guys were professional, andthat's what I took away from it.
Did you speak with Ozzie? Uh? No, I thought Ozzie had that
a tiny entourage around him. I'mpretty sure Marty talked with you know,
Marty Dudah, but I gave Sharonwas dominating him at that point. You
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could tell, you know, wereally didn't know who she was at the
time. And then you know,then they became famous again. Oh that
was the woman. She was literallyguarding the guy. She was never more
than a step or two away fromhim, and except when he sang,
so no one really got to talkto Ozzy. So you knew Marty from
college. Give me a brief history. Oh, we met my freshman year.
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He was running the uh the radiostation, or had a lot to
do with it, and he gotme to play drums for charity for twenty
four hours at a time in thestudent union and I did it. They
gave me like a five minute break, you know, every hour, and
I played drums for twenty four hoursto raise money. And my roommate was
the heavy freshman heavyweight wrestler, youknow, Brockport's very famous for wrestling.
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He stood on his head for twentyfour hours. The guy was a you
know, incredible, you know,crazy man athlete. So we had so
much fun and I remember just sleepingfor like a day afterwards. But so
Marty and I go way back.We trade did uh. I needed a
good Rats album? He had it, the first one, tasty, So
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I traded a Crack the Sky album. I hat. He took her right
out of the radio station. Youknow, I don't care about it anymore.
I had like one of the fewcopies of that first Good Rats album,
So Martie and I just went back. We ran in the same circles.
That's all. That's great. Thatwas the seventies, That's what it
was all about, Luckey oh Man, the albums I was. I went
into that that studios. Hey,you guys got tasty by the Good Rats
(38:27):
together, and Marty was yeah,because what do you got? And I
said, what do you want?And I had to go buy that record.
I was able to find it atthe record grove or whatever it was
called in Brockport and we slopped,so, you know, I blew all
my friends way down in Rockland County. I had an actual album of you
know, because a Warner Brothers droppedthem, you know, that's the way
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it worked back then. But stillowned the rights. Yeah all right,
Well, hey, Charlie Avino,thanks for taking a walk down heavy metal
memory lane. We appreciate the input. It was. It was just a
great time and I just wanted tosay one last thing here. You guys
would not believe the volume in thatSmall Sounds Gage. Those marshals were on.
They were double stacked and your hairwent back on the back of your
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neck, your your your hair stut, it's stood, and it was just
absolute experience of a lifetime. RandyRhodes is the master, and I hate
to tell you guys this, butI got to see him four feet away.
That's that's impressive. But that's funny. That's ironic that you mentioned that
that it was so loud, becausein some of these comments and listeners,
(39:35):
you could, if you haven't yet, go to YouTube and look under the
Metal Mayhem ROC channel and you'll seethe interview. But some listeners have commented
that were there than um, whatis it that the cameras, Yes,
the tubes and the cameras of Wobble, that's loud. It was, but
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you know, you playing rock bandsback in the seventies and eighties, you
ate it up. We used tohave an expression, if it's too loud,
you're too old. Yeah. Yeah, So all right, Charlie,
Well we'll let you get see backto your Saturday night. All right,
all right, we'll talk to yousoon. Take care, every buddy,
fantastic, Thank you everyone, seeyou later, Bye bye. That's Charlie
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Avino, bigtime listener sharing his RandyRhodes experience. So that's tonight show.
Remember the Three Tremors. They're playingRochester, the Montage and the weekend of
the fourteenth and fifteenth or in Rochester, Syracuse and Buffalo, spending the weekend
in Western New York. The newalbum comes out again tomorrow. Just remind
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