Metallica - "St. Anger" (Classic Album Review) - Metalology

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What is up, everybody? Welcome back.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Today, we are talking about a classic metal album. We
are doing a retrospective. We are looking back twenty plus
years of angry music, angry metal, very angry. Today we
are talking andro What are we talking about today?

Speaker 1 (00:17):
We're talking about saying aronmnd.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Here on Metalogy, I got the ship down.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Okay, God, I'm the ringleader of a whole screing live like.
You guys know where the clips are?

Speaker 1 (01:02):
You guys know.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Where the the catchphrases.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
Yeah, you lay out the payment. We're gonna fucking We're
gonna fucking add some tread on that shit.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
We teamwork, We team work up in this bitch, my man.
Yeah fuck yeah, yep. So you guys heard it right.
Today we are talking about Metallica's controversial, probably most controversial record.
I would say it's their most controversial record more than
Load and Reload. We're talking about sant Anger. This is
a record that was huge in the early two thousands

(01:34):
for two different reasons. One because it was Metallica's first
new album since Reload, which was I believe ninety seven. Right,
So you're talking about like the biggest metal band in
the world on a five year hiatus of like releasing
shit and they come out or more because it was
all three so six years maybe five years, six years,
and they come out with st Anger, which they said, Oh,
it's gonna be the most angriest thing we've ever dropped.

(01:55):
It's gonna be the most darkest and the heaviest, and
it drops and splits their fucking fan base. Yeah, which
you would think probably would not have happened for a
heavy record, But.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
I'm trying to remember how like it was during that time.
But the man, were people hungry for that fucking record,
and when they got it, it was just nothing. But
I don't know, just a lot of debates, a lot
of fucking fights amongst your friends, you know what I mean.
That shit was like dividing people what you like seeing ingred? Yeah,
I actually don't mind. It was like what do master puppets?

(02:29):
And that's it.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
And there was so much going into that record because
it was the new bass player was Robert Trulo. The
documentary Some Kind of Monster, they gave insight into the
writing recording of the album, which I still consider Some
Kind of Monster to be one of the greatest metal
documentaries ever because they really let you in which like
even bands like I would say like Iron Maiden and
bands like that, never really did not like Metallica. They're

(02:52):
letting motherfuckers into the therapy appointments.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
Yeah, I'm not sure that's something I want for all
my artists, Like do I really want to see them
on their bad days?

Speaker 5 (03:01):
For every artist?

Speaker 1 (03:02):
No?

Speaker 4 (03:02):
But Metallica definitely filled that role. They like here here
you guys go so and.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
The memes the man.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, so that this episode came out after you know,
the reveal atle bit our buddy, but over here quit
quit the band quick to fy the tyrants, our band
to fight the tyrants, and Rudy still doesn't believe it.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Damn shame.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
It's not true, but very true. Literally, we had walked
out of the room. It happened in this room too.
That's room vaj me Andra met up and we talked
about him quitting the band in this year room.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
I walked out of this room, walked in the live room.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Brandon was sitting over there and I was like, he
quit the band, do not do not?

Speaker 6 (03:42):
Like?

Speaker 7 (03:42):
Hey, well, hey, I'm not gonna believe it until I
see you guys perform live.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
I won't be there no, you're gonna be there. You
just won't be on stage. You're getting dragged to the show.

Speaker 5 (03:54):
When I'm not on stage.

Speaker 7 (03:56):
When you're next to me, I'm like, what, I'm sure, Hey, dude,
guy's got your what do you wait?

Speaker 1 (04:02):
If you're wait, if you're here, who's up? Who's up?
Until that happens?

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Ghost. So we just dropped a whole episode on that.
You guys can check it out. It was Baji's ten
seconds of sun here on Metology.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
Black Hole, Son black Hole.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
You know, I've never done a like because Bai has
had the what's that?

Speaker 4 (04:26):
What's that called a coboration lifetime achievement?

Speaker 5 (04:32):
What achievement?

Speaker 2 (04:35):
I think it was like last last holiday season. I
think we were we were like something happened with like
a session like where we didn't meet up or something,
and I did a concoction of like Boji's best moments
on the.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
Podcast was awesome that show laughing, like the.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Top ten Boji moments, and then here we are get you.
You're the star of the podcast. Baji is the best.
I don't I don't even have a best I don't.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Have a best of it. I put that motherfucker.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
Together Rudy doesn't have the best, you got the best
of you got the best.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
Just don't say controversial ship.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
It's because you say ridiculous ship that makes no goddamn sense,
and you think it's intellectual.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
You think it makes sense. It makes sense to me,
and it doesn't.

Speaker 5 (05:17):
It makes sense to me.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
Do some sometimes less is more. People love that.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
But we did the Linked Park episode we got we
didn't get some pushback on Bojie because he was like, well,
it's my opinion. If you know my opinion, well fuck you,
then what do you want to do? Like I want
you to express yourself and I want you to like
talk about it and articulate. I don't articulate it's my opinion.
I'm like, well, you're on a podcast, so unfortunately I
don't know what.

Speaker 5 (05:39):
More you the medium is. Sorry, I want to know
what I feel.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
I don't think that tops the D D D Why
I yeah, why that was all ship.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
That I don't know.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
I just don't like that term. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
But the fact that it triggered you so.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
Are it did trigger me, yes, but I just don't
like but it makes no sense, Like we're not going
to dig back into it.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
But you need to understand that that is ridiculous. And
you were d I Y yourself. That's the more ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
This podcast is d I Y.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
I don't like that term. I'm sorry. D I Y
is for stuff that you know, would working ship you
make outside.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, always for anything to do by.

Speaker 5 (06:24):
Yourself, do it by yourself.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
When you masturbate, it's d I Y.

Speaker 5 (06:31):
Don't you don't you roomy? But don't you dare ruin
it for.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
D I why more than any of us, My.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
Friend, you're the king of d I Y. Dude, you
we really put it down to brass.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, that's that's like the most, like I'm gonna tell you,
it's like the most, like Mexican dude be defended by
the term LATINX like it's the equivalent, Like you don't understand, Like,
just how ridiculous is that?

Speaker 5 (06:56):
What do you mean ridiculous? You don't call a Latin
Latin X latina? You know?

Speaker 1 (07:00):
See, Okay, this is one I'm talking.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
See I understand that because that is a dude term
that was made up to him compass like an entire demographic.
D I Y has been around since like the fucking
dawn of man, like everybody's talking, Like I just I
don't like the term. I'm sorry, I do not do
it yourself. No, that's a stupid fucking term. Well what
would you call it? I don't know anything else. Well,

(07:22):
it's it's a very literal do it yourself independent. I
like independent more.

Speaker 5 (07:27):
That sounds very Actually, it sounds very Yeah, it sounds much.
It doesn't sound poor because what I'm trying to say,
poor d I Y sounds poor independent. It sounds like, hey,
you know what, they're civilized. At least they're not animals.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
Yeah, okay, this is ridiculous. We've made no word on this.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
No no progress.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
There's no progress.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
The sorry wall I am the wall that progress smashes
up against.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
There will be no progress.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Here.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Like okay, So, like I I think that your NIW
Year's resolution, because this podca this episode is coming out
the end of twenty twenty four for future listeners, your
your new Year's resolution should be progress. For example, about
five minutes before we started the podcast, I said, you know, dude,
maybe you should put a carpet down to cover some.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Of the cables. And You're like, why the fuck should
I cover the cables?

Speaker 2 (08:22):
And fucking Rudi's over here trying to pull a cable
from my fucking leg, and I'm like, well, on.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
A cable, there you go. Why wasn't my Why were
my cables moved? That's a better question.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Because because I'm trying to get situated.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
No, not you. My cables are all right here earlier.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
All right, So we're talking about sing today, Yeah today,
which Metallica did d I Wyatt.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
They just hired uh Bob Rock.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah, and they built their own stud They built two studios,
which was fucking hilarious. They built two full whole lot
of studios. The first studio they worked it for like
two or three years and didn't use any of the songs.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
They used no songs from.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
That remember Temptation before he went to rehab, right, yeah,
and then he got he went to rehab and they
moved into a new facility which became their current headquarters,
and then they used all the songs from there. But
they two three years before that, nothing damn zero. So yeah,
it was just Metallic and Bob Rock. So it was
dy Bob Rock. Technically play was playing bass with them,

(09:21):
so he was in the band for five minutes, so
they were dy Metallica was dy.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
It definitely did feel like the perfect It's like, it's like,
you know what you guys have been doing fucking this
ship for what since ninety four or I don't know
how long or no, ninety sorry my about eighty nine
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Black album bob Rock. I was probably eating that as
when they started.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
So it's like, damn, like you might as well fucking
join the band, dude. So yeah, I remember when I
heard that. I was like, yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Like I'm not gonna lie if our producer will we
produced our album ourselves, but if we had a producer,
like why, d why if we had a producer and
they knew how to play guitar and bass and drums
and vas she quits, We're gonna be like, hey, there's
a spot available, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Would you want to join? Would you want to join?
I don't know. How would you feel if Roger replaced you?
How'd you feel about that?

Speaker 5 (10:13):
I'd laugh because you guys probably wouldn't progress.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
What progress would you do?

Speaker 5 (10:22):
He would be hindered, is what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Oh boy, thank god Roger's on a Metallica fan. All right,
So today we're talking about saying anchor getting this in
a We're not doing no questions, we're not doing nonhing that.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
We're just gonna get right into it.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
I think going forward into twenty twenty five, we're gonna
be doing these kind of like classic metal album reviews.
We're gonna kind of take it a little bit. I
think it's a cool subject. It is, you know, because
we've done some album reviews, like newer stuff, but I
think that we should kind of revisit some like older stuff,
Like I would love to do like a Corn Corn
not issues because that's a six song album, but like Fall,

(10:59):
like follow the Leader. I'm like, let be a sixth
album to reveew like to recommend.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
Do have opinions about that album?

Speaker 5 (11:06):
Alright?

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Why?

Speaker 2 (11:07):
I don't think it's I think it's better than that.
I remember, I think they're just which which album?

Speaker 4 (11:16):
Oh yeah. I feel like it's all over the place
and there's like ship in there is like I get
the ship out of here.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
I think it's way better than the first two records.
I still can't listen to the first The first two
records are that's like phased out of my It's like Metallica.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
I couldn't listen to it.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
When I should do a classic album review on the
first album, I'm not doing that. People would love to
hear that not doing let us know, No, don't let
us know, let us don't let us know corn first album, dude,
I can that is a classic.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
So it's like Metallica is like kill them All, Like
I I think that's the worst album, like by far.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
I think it's a terrible album. I think the riffs
are like the.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
Way worst album out of their whole discography.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Or we're not counting, We're not counting. I was gonna say,
we're not gonna We're kind kind of just the band.
I think it's the worst album. I think it sounds
like ship. It doesn't hold up at all. The songs
are not good like they're they're just not. The highlight
of the album is Cliff Burton's solo at a Sesion.
That is the highlight of that album. It's not I

(12:22):
think when you think of Kill them All, do you
not think of anesthesia?

Speaker 4 (12:25):
No, I don't. I just skip that truck. But not
just kidding, but uh no, dude, that first I don't
want to talk too much about that because we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Saying angry saying angry, So we're gonna keep your anger trying.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
To keep my anger about. But yeah, that first record
sounds the way it's supposed to sound because it needed
to come out at the era came out, so to me,
it's like classic.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
I think every album after that album is like a
thousand times better than that album.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
Yeah, no, I I I'm not saying kill them All
is like above Master or Ride. It's not.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
I think Inger is way better.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
I think then kill them all.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Oh yeah, I mean, I mean they could have changed.
Of course the snare tone, like we're gonna get into
the snare totone.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
Yeah, but uh, we know I need to listen to this.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Uh we need to need to get back in there.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah all right, so we're gonna get into it, but
just want to let everyone knows, you know, our normal
listeners when I do no questions, but we are gonna
be uh pretty much for these kind of episodes of
the retrospective album review episodes, we are going to just
pretty much jump right into it. We're gonna jump right
and we didn't do with this one because Bogie distracted
the funk out everybody with his di y.

Speaker 5 (13:29):
Nonsense, bring it up.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
So I was just.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Ready brought it up. God damn you ready, Goddamn, this
will happen.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
You say you have to leave at a certain time,
and then you say that gets him distracted, and the
rank that was ridiculous, that was it's okay though, it's okay, yeah,
it's not.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
That that makes that makes him him.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
It's great for the podcast, not great as a human being,
like we need to really actually no, wait until we
end the podcast.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
And then we'll work on the human part of it, the.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
Humanity lack.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Twenty years later, what do you think about the I
still hate that shit, all right, So let's get into it.
So I'm going to read a quick excerpt from the
saint Inger Wikipedia bio so our listeners understand the context
of some maybe some of the things that we're going
to talk about. And if I can get my fucking
face ID working right now and my safari, okay, there
you go. All right, So this is from the saint

(14:32):
Inger Wikipedia. St Inger is the eighth studio album by
American heavy metal band Metallica, released on June fifth, two
thousand and three, through Electra Records in the United States
and Vertigo Records Elsewhere. It was the last Metallica album
released through Electra and the final collaboration between Metallica and
long time producer Bob Rock, with whom the band had
worked with since nineteen ninety. This Is Awesome Metallica's only

(14:54):
album as an official trio, as bassist Jason Newsted left
the band prior to the recording sessions. Rock played bass
in new Set's plays, and Robert Truilla joined the band
following its completion. Although he does not play on the album,
Trillo is credited in the linear notes and appears in
photos with the band in the album's booklet, Satan Anger
JID fifth two thousand and three. Getting into the critical reception,

(15:19):
Metacritic had it at a sixty five out of one hundred,
all Music three out of five stars, Blender four out
of five, Entertainment Weekly had it at a B plus.
Entertainment Weekly doing an album review, Metallica is weird because
they do like movies. Rolling Stone gave it Rolling Fucking
Stone five out of five, No four out of five
rolling Stone, at the time the biggest rock magazine in history,

(15:43):
four out of five stars. Uh Spin give it and
out of ten, and Uncut give it four out of five.
The album holds a score of sixty five out of
one hundred based on twinter reviews on review aggregating website Metacritic.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
All Right, okay, all right, nothing's changed.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
So it's just like an overall kind of thoughts about
like the time the album came out, were you looking
forward to I think all of us were kind of
we were, I think too.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Three.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
I think I was already like maybe two years into
like being into metal, Like I was definitely like on board,
I had my favorite bands already. I was, you know, Coorns.
This was the year Take a Look in the Mirror
came out, So I was also, we're looking forward to
that too, damn you know June fifteenth, two thousand and
three that I was like for us, for I think,
well for me and Rudy literally the summer right right

(16:31):
after middle school, going into high school, going in our
freshman year, so we're starting high school with st Inger
basically because I think our school starts in July for
for our high school. Overall thoughts on the time period
of the album came out, were you looking forward to it?
What were your thoughts about keep your thoughts of the
album out, but kind of like the lead up to it.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
We'll start with Hunters since he's the elder.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
I think, wait a bit.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
I have to say about this.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Wait a minute.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
Uh yeah, I think that I was looking back. I
was definitely like huge and I still am, but very
much like protective of uh you know, Metallica or like
a certain era. And I don't know if, like maybe

(17:26):
the once the sant Anger music video came out, I
was trying very hard to like it, right, you know,
I'm just talking about the promotion. I don't want to
talk about the song. But yeah, just like that was
like my first blow of like, dude, I'm you're not
going to get what you think you are. Uh even
though obviously Load and all that has happened already, I'm
not you know. At the time, that was less, you

(17:51):
know than willing to like listen to those albums. But
I still have that hope, you know, as a metallic fan,
that glimmer of hopes like, oh maybe there's come back
to their roots, you know, like every fucking metal fan
probably says about their favorite bands. And uh, yeah, it
was just anticipation, you know, Like I said, I was

(18:12):
just that Glimmer of hope, you know, was like, man,
they're using double bass on the standing of track, you know,
I was like what so, yeah, that was That's That's
what was around my head at the time. You know,
it's just destruction. Gotcha as usual?

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Gotcha? Gotcha? Uh boji? Since you're just staring off into
the wilderness.

Speaker 5 (18:34):
Yes, I am trying to remember. But two thousand and three,
I don't even think I heard him a talk at
that point because I wasn't really I didn't get into
metal till like two thousand and four, because that's when
I started hanging out with Gino more. And then I
think Gino showed me the song Harvester Sorrow of Sorrow.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (18:59):
Yeah, he showed me that song, like I think, like
the end of like our our middle school year, so
like two thousand and thirty, the middle the middle twenty
thirteen because four I started highwoy thirteen, two thousand three,
three thousand and three, three God damn, I'm sorry, Oh.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Four oh five was your freshman year in high school?

Speaker 5 (19:23):
Yeah, so o three is when I heard the Metallica
But I wasn't wait, well this is three. Yeah, but
the middle of three. But I only heard of them.
I never I never looked into them.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
You never heard like anything like no like wise Master pusp.

Speaker 5 (19:38):
No no no. I didn't get into Meddle till I
met Gino. Like Gino was the one who showed me
was because of you guys. Gino was the one who
showed me metal and I was like, oh shit, I
like this. Then that's when you know LimeWire and all
that shit.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
This was before his nickname was Iraqi. His name was gay.

Speaker 5 (19:56):
It was gamey gaming, gamey gaming because I just would game.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
When you say gamey, I think of like gamy meat.
Oh god, yeah, that nick didn't stick.

Speaker 5 (20:06):
For a long time. I did not, But but Nike
till two thousand and three.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Like so, Stinger predates your interest in metal, it does. Wow, Wow,
that's crazy.

Speaker 5 (20:17):
The first song I heard was a Harvest of Sorrow
and I loved it, but like, I never really looked
into like, you know, other Metallica songs would till way later.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah, Okay, Rudy, how did you feel around Singer's release?

Speaker 7 (20:32):
I remember I was really fucking looking forward to it, dude.
The promotion, the promoting before it came out, dude, was
fucking big.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Dude, it was everywhere.

Speaker 7 (20:41):
What I remember, speaking of Homar, I pre ordered my
ship there and I picked it up the day of
release day.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
I won't get the edited version.

Speaker 7 (20:49):
I got, No, it was the unedited and also it
came with like a DVD. Yeah, I got it to Yeah,
that ship was fucked to me that she was super cool, dude,
I don't love that. Back in the day, like that
was like, oh shit, dude, Like, yeah, you get music,
and like I remember that that was the selling point
for me.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
And they played in their rehearsal space they played the
entire album.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Okay, so silly.

Speaker 7 (21:12):
It's fucking cool, dude. I was super thinking forward to it.
I got a first day, so.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yeah, yeah, I was well into my Metallica fandom. Like,
but I think, like at thirty five years old, going
on thirty six, I could say two favorite bands of
all time Corn of Metallica. I think they're great companions
to have because they represent two different generations of metal.
So going into like I think at the time, I
was just as big of a Metallica fan as Corn
like it was to me and Jonathan Davis and.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
James Hetfield, those were my two dudes.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
And going into Seneger, giving into all the hype of
the interviews, like this is gonna be the darkest record,
It's gonna be the heaviest Record's gonna be the Oh shit,
I can't wait. I can't wait. Bro talking the hype up.
Get Ready bought the album one of the first albums
I bought the day of, like release day he marked
on my calendar, showed up.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
I think I bought a target.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
I was super, super stoked, super super We're excited to
uh to grab it and yeah, so I guess I'll
leave it at that and we'll get into it. We'll
get into it, and at the end of the podcast,
after we listen through them, because we're gonna listen to
two pieces of the album of each song. After the
we we go through that, we're gonna give our general thoughts,
I think, talk about our reactions afterwards and how well

(22:20):
the album has aged over its twenty plus years now,
twenty one going on twenty two years now, so that's crazy.
About twenty nine years, that's crazy. I can still see
in Walmart that fucking the wallpaper with a fucking fist
and I'm like, oh man, Metallico, Yeah, yeah, all right,
so now we're gonna get fisted and we're gonna listen
to it. Yeah, so we're listening to Saint Inger. The

(22:41):
first track is the leadoff track, Frantic Frantic.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
See you guys fucking know. You guys fucking know.

Speaker 7 (22:48):
I had this album on repeat, bro, right back in
the day, I had it on repeat.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
I was like even back then, I was like really yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Dude, yeah, I'm not gonna lie back then, gotcha? All right?
So this is Frantic. I like every guitar player don't

(23:24):
let to play that though. It's pretty note yeah, super
that's snare though, ye ranking that's like a cool price

(23:54):
all the way up up.

Speaker 8 (23:54):
And Highland dead too.

Speaker 6 (23:57):
Here we go.

Speaker 9 (24:09):
If my good hand my waisted day facts when I
used them to kid fat sack stuff to bod my
sharp and burning or good find what.

Speaker 10 (24:20):
Alex dood Saturday to a half a sec to know
I won't go get a funny sound and doing what
I should have.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Known had my waist date facts.

Speaker 8 (24:30):
We all got to do the sixty clocks together, Janetta, My.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
Lifestyle determines my dad style.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
My lifestyle determines my das style. Keds, sir s, I
like this part is the parlor part.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
Back then, dude, I hated this party.

Speaker 11 (25:00):
Yeah, alright, you guys, ready, you guys, ready, alright, here
we go, there we go.

Speaker 8 (25:11):
Go Ti Ti Ti Ti Ti Ti talk frantic.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Ti ti tick tick tick frantic Ti Ti Ti ti
tick frantic tick tick tick tick tick. There go.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
At that point, Hatfield uh collapsed in the booth, right,
he just ran out of the air.

Speaker 11 (25:31):
He was just talk.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
All right, So that was frantic.

Speaker 7 (25:37):
Who would have thought twenty one years later, TikTok would
be the name of one of the most.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Like successful apps.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yeah, that's very new man, the new So okay, so
that's you're only allowed to say very once in each episode.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
We're gonna start doing that with you.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
Very very We're gonna have a very counter, very right,
get a very counter above his head.

Speaker 5 (26:03):
So thoughts on frantic sounds stock to me.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
I love this song, good fucking intro to the album.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
It's just.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Up no no, I remember hearing it. You didn't like
this was like a great opener for the album, dude.
For me, I fucking loved it, loved it completely, dude.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
This song has a special place in my heart. It
was one of the first Metallica songs. I'd ever learned
how to play.

Speaker 6 (26:27):
Three.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
I was just starting to learn how to play guitar.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
And everyone like opening Guitar World the month that this
came out, a picture of James Sanfield kerk hab It
on the front page and all six songs because the
guitar was always six songs or five six songs, and
it was all Metallica songs and this is one of them.
And I was like, I didn't learn the new Metallica songs.
It's gonna be pumped up. Everyone's gonna be damming frantic,
and I need to learn frantic.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
And oh I like that riff. I like to beat.
I'll be uh as aged as well. But anyways, all right,
it's just like thoughts on frantic.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
Yeah, it's a good song. I think that it's aged
pretty well. Uh, we've jammed it like occasionally, you know, Brandon,
you know, fucking we'll chime in we're joking. Yeah, yeah,
we're definitely joky, but it's like we know it. It's
like we can't deny that I know what's next. So yeah,

(27:37):
it's it's definitely h age well. And just even the
parts that I mentioned earlier that I hated back then
where it's like, oh man, they're getting soft, They're fucking
getting to this like in and out, you know what
I mean, which is like I usually attributed to like
Corn where it's like, okay, you go soft and heavy
and then go soft. But here Metallica do something like that.
It was just like unacceptable, unacceptable. Granted I I have

(28:01):
at that time, even I'll admit till today, I have
not revisited Load and relook. This is like that first
of the you know, Shameful four albums or whatever you
want to call it. Revisit it.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
That just shows how different you and are, because Load
is probably my most part metal album.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
Yeah, like I know your post Black album.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Oh I don't like I don't like Reload.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
I don't like really buy love Load, like Bleeding Me
Until It Sleeps, like all those songs that.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
Fuels all right, I definitely would be downe to do
like a revisit.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
I think we should do all the metallic albums.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
Fuck, that'd be crazy, I'd be I mean, we're gonna have.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
To yes, Spasji thoughts on Frantic no no no skip that. Yeah,
now we know the obvious thing is gonna be the snare.
So we'll hold off on that first.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
Yeah, I'm just talking about the song.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yeah, all right, Well so okay, okay, Boji has that
has nothing to say, He's all right. So the next
one is the next one is the album title track.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
It's time. There you are, you go? Everybody do the snare.
Everyone's off. I know.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
I was like, where, dude, I love this red.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Something else.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
Right here?

Speaker 6 (29:43):
So be.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
Ye are exactly trying.

Speaker 12 (30:00):
Say come on, Rooney, want different?

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Say thang.

Speaker 13 (30:14):
Gets Spence say bang.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
I'll to the background, push it out.

Speaker 14 (30:24):
They push it out, the tang ounds, mush it out,
mush it out, Yes, freezepe mush.

Speaker 11 (30:34):
It out, the frush it out, push.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
It out, the fush it it. We don't want to
outshine to say free s this course, I no.

Speaker 6 (30:55):
Regrets sons down, say nay, sing man my son myself,
no free, no regrets on all these dark sets sounding
around my.

Speaker 11 (31:13):
Leg by.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Later this mean what he does that ship?

Speaker 15 (31:31):
Go with you bad? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Oh all right, so I'll say anger.

Speaker 7 (31:47):
I think it's safe to say this song was the
fucking song of the album. This was the jam was
fucking amazing.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
It was a good first single, right that was a good.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
One, I think when you would you even like the
structure of it, Like the chorus has three sections to it,
which is weird. Yeah, it's that mean fucking and yeah
they go into like this thing, right, but then most
of the songs heavy it's just like this verse, you know,
whatever you want to call it, because I don't know
what the verses would be. I don't know what the
chorus because it's so repetitive. Yeah, I think it's fucking sick.

Speaker 6 (32:22):
Now.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Yeah, like Rudy said, safe to say, like look at
all of us where we know the fucking song. Yeah,
you know, real quick, one word to describe the song faji.
You can't say very.

Speaker 5 (32:36):
I can't say very no, excellent, excellent.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
All right, uh handro.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
Promising just because it was it was the first fucking
single man and it showed me like, holy shit, fucking
largest dude, holy shit ship like that got me pumped.

Speaker 7 (32:57):
So yeah, Rudy, I mean to me, it was fucking
emotional dude, like Hentfields like vocals in this. To me,
it was very like melodic in the sense dude, and
like I'm a sucker from melodic ship with heavy ship. Yeah,
you know he did the melodic vocals and like, you know,

(33:18):
part partially of it, and it was still fucking heavy
at ship dude, got so yeah for me would be emotional.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
But if I was to describe it, I was surprised
you guys didn't say it angry.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Angry anger anger.

Speaker 16 (33:35):
No.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Definitely, yeah, it definitely is a good representation of the album.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
I think regardless of that you like that, we're not,
it was a good representation of what the album is
lyrically and musically. In the next song, we're going to
get into this debate of Brannan says, you'all sound worse
than James.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Okay, thank you, thank you. So we're gonna get in
the debate of whether or not guitar.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Solos should have been on this album ready, but we're
gonna wait until we get a couple more songs in
because I think it all depends on the song.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
You can't just throw solos in the song.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
In general, I agree with that one really. I think
complete no no, and general I agree that not every
song needs it, but it's fucking Metallica, dude.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
I don't know if we were to say, like the
last two songs, no, like there's no room. I don't
think that there's it's not necessary.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
Based on what we heard. It would have been nice
for the album to have it. I don't know where.
I can't tell you where when, but it would have
been nice. I mean, Kirk's in the fucking band. Dude,
Kirk is a band member, Like he's part of the band.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
And it's like, if we don't put solos on the song,
it's gonna date it to this day.

Speaker 5 (34:44):
Yeah, yeah, dude, it sounds stock.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
Lars repeated, Sorry, it just sounds stock. He's out of
the band. Speaking of stock, we'reringing in the next song.
All right, well, no, we all know the next one.
I don't even need to say it.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
What else said? See now, okay, I have to say
from this point forward.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
You will have to some kind of ones. Okay, hell yeah,
I feel.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Like I'm had like Orange County Choppers, Hi know, she sucks. Now,

(36:08):
this is what I mean by just like Frank and
signing riffs. Why they called some kind of monster. But
it's like, look, I think you could tell there. This
was very pro tools Like they're jam They're just jamming
the same riff over and over again, playing different variations.
Of it, and I'm just like, we'll cut it here
and cut it here and cut it here and blew

(36:29):
it together, which is how they did the record.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
But I think this where oh alright, we're so waiting.

Speaker 5 (36:39):
And the longest tin prove I've ever heard.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
I very much doubt that when the ship you brought,
We're so winning. Rudy's just diamond over here.

Speaker 5 (36:51):
Longest pintro man, huh, longest piro.

Speaker 6 (36:54):
There we go.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
I love this hard dude, like early gently all right, No,
can't see he is a drum Joel. He's the k
This is the last speak song.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
Inside the the ring with This is the change, This
is the best down.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
This is the boys silents. So the look on Boshi's
face right now, what have been a skip for me?

Speaker 5 (37:39):
I think the first made.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Okay, we're kno gonna await from the scene.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Something brutals that that is We're now two minutes and
forty seven seconds into this song.

Speaker 7 (37:48):
Yeah, it's a it's a groovy ass song though, dude,
it's to me, this is groovey dude.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
I think when you're coming off like frantic and sant anger,
then you get to this song, it's like, yeah, this
song has like heavy parts to it, but it just.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
I would have waited to put this, like after four
tracks established, you know this album is out the Yeah,
this one kind of like throws off the movie.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
This song is still slaps god damn it. It's not
a bad SI.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
I just think it should track number five later.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yeah, lay that This used to be one of my
like top songs on the album. I used to go
to this song like when I put on the album,
I'd be.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
Like, some kind of monster.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
This song is not an agell Like I could tell
where they cut with pro tools. You could tell like
this is like an hour jam, and they just this
is how they wrote the song. And when they cut it,
they were like, okay, James, let's have you do some
lyrics here, you know. And I think that songwriting requires
some respect and more orchestration, and I think that they

(38:56):
just got a little lost in the pro tools of
it all. I think it's a good idea when you
make it seamless. But for a song, this is like, dude,
it's just a bunch of riffs. It's the same riff
put together. If I if you could try to sit
here learn the song. You can listen to it and
learn that main rift and the entire song is just
that in different variations.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
It definitely feels like kind of littleish where it's like
they were just riffs repeating riffs throughout the whole song.
I was like, okay, m hm. Whereas it as far
as like yeah, I can definitely see how the vocals
are just not randomly, but it's like, oh, let's put
some here, let's put something in there. But I don't know,
it's not my favorite. I mean, I'm with you, Bashi,

(39:40):
where it's like I usually would skip this song, but
hearing it again, you know, it's it's not that bad.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
So we're so now we're gonna just move it later
later down the track. So now we're gonna devisive a
little bit. Now we're get a little because Bashi didn't
seem too happy.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
With this song.

Speaker 4 (39:56):
It hates this song.

Speaker 5 (39:57):
Just a minute of that, I was like, I'm done
with it, like do something.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Else, and then and then and then hands like yeah,
it's all right. It was a little bit further, I'm like,
it's not a good song, and everybody's like, dude, I'm
fucking vib it.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
If I'm being honest, this is my third favorite song
on the album. Damn, what's your first? Oh, damn, what's
your second? Frantic?

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Okay, I don't want to say it, but we're at
the peak for me after this. Wow, it's a different story, alright, alright, alright,
but I still I love this song though.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
I love it alright, So.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
We're gonna move into the next one, which is It's
dirty window dirty, which is like light frantic.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Hell, yeah, that's alert.

Speaker 10 (41:18):
See my reflection in the window sens a stiff prince,
So did president was sixteen? Checked judgment all the mor
This house.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Is clean, exactly way this house is clean. Come on, Hell,
who I think I have?

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Now?

Speaker 11 (41:45):
Who I think I am?

Speaker 8 (41:48):
He who want to say I have?

Speaker 1 (41:51):
Let go get on the window and see it's gone wrong?

Speaker 4 (41:55):
Or is it?

Speaker 11 (41:56):
Sis?

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Shut up? Said, Oh my god, hold down, low key.

Speaker 16 (42:02):
I love this next cargo, I'm judging, I'm jewry and
I'm execution.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
The rip shots or whatever the.

Speaker 17 (42:20):
Execution nuts oh jactor orotactor tactor in factor objactor rejactor.

Speaker 9 (42:33):
In factor injector de factor reject.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
So I'm just gonna be straight up. This is definitely
one of my favorite songs on the record. If you
guys can't tell. I love that so straightforward. I think
it's the shortest song on the record too. It's about
five minutes or so, but it's like frantic light. It's
like a mix of frantic.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
It's a monster.

Speaker 4 (43:00):
I can see that.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
You can tell there's probably more thought into this song,
because I think the lyrics flow a lot more with
this song.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
It's not just like a bunch of drums. And then
I don't know if it's the people like bro I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (43:15):
I think sant Anger like like, I don't know. I
feel like that was like pretty well thought out, yeah
for sure, but yeah, this one definitely is. I feel
like this should have just been track three man Like
it's keeping that energy going, dude, it's keeping you pumped.

Speaker 5 (43:31):
Maybe.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Fun fact about this song is Batallica played this last year.
It was the first time they played anything off of
st Anger in almost twenty years. Jesus this is they
didn't play sat Anger And it is so cool to
hear it with like an actual like drum like snare,
like a real snare.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
It's so fuing cool. Damn.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
So it's not so much better. Thoughts on Jerdy Window.
I love the intro to this song. It's fucking amazing.

Speaker 7 (43:56):
But this was the first song out of this album
where like the snare was like hey, like, this is
the first time I actually noticed it.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
I'm like, hey, dude, like right.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
It's probably because at this point you've heard it so
much already, like when you're listening to the album, by
this point, that garbage pilla has already been seared into
your brain.

Speaker 7 (44:16):
I thought he was hitting a keg bro like I
thought it was like the clown from something at one point,
you know, But this is the first time I noticed it,
and I'm like, yeah, I still I still was okay
with the song, but it's the first time.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
I kind of like thoughts and dirtty window boys.

Speaker 4 (44:35):
I think that it's that, like I said, should be
it should have been tracked three or just I don't know,
has that fucking energy to keep it going. Maybe not
for me personally, not as good as like the first
two tracks, but ship like this, you know where like
he does that fucking melody and ship like man that
that aged pretty well. But back then I was like, girl, well,

(44:57):
how dare they be sentimental? Or like kind of like
what is he doing his voice? Like that what would
he feel?

Speaker 1 (45:05):
What happened?

Speaker 5 (45:06):
Yeah, I feel yeah, like I don't know. I like
the songwriting on this song. I think it's nicely done. Yeah,
I'm just I'll talk about this more later on, but
I'm just like, I'm listening to all the songs before
I say this.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Okay, okay, that's fair, all right, So we're gonna go
to the next one, which is.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
All right, this is all right. I'll give it to
you guys on this one. If you don't like this album,
this song did for me, didn't do but talk any favors.
So I'm just saying this is Invisible kid.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
I mean it's all right, cool love ever talk that

(46:10):
flassic the talk grew though.

Speaker 6 (46:15):
That not that.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
I swear I thought the crown was on this our
bro that rift though I took a through.

Speaker 14 (46:26):
Right, he d never see what he did, got a
stuff where ahead following through other grid the visible kid
dever reas on his own blarrel.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Now be know most talking him way, invisible kid never
see what he did? Stuff wearing did now not, ain't
it very well?

Speaker 4 (46:51):
Let's be doing laurel.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
Then on my nose like shit, he.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
See Lars is a limited drummer, but sometimes he does
some ship that's like, oh, that's cool because he's so limited,
he finds creativity in that limited space and then that
ship like that.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
It's like, if you were a better drummer, you can
pull that off. Or are they like tweaked each.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
Song as far as the snare goes, but goddamn you
can tell they did not touch that Snare's like nope,
I wanted to sound the same every goddamn So.

Speaker 5 (47:33):
I mean if you saw, if you thought some kind
of month, or you don't understand why they didn't.

Speaker 4 (47:36):
Touch the drums because you throw a tantrum.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Yes, don't stop.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Uh so So Invisible Kid, I will be the first
to say this was the song where they lost me on.
I think that, uh the idea of invisible Kid. I
think when you're twelve thirteen years old, like I'm the
invisible kid. When you're in your thirties, you're like, bro,
ain't none of those kids, I'm not invisible?

Speaker 1 (47:59):
But it is man man beard. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
So to me, it's just like a filler song on
the record. It's like they needed a song. What do
you guys thing of this song?

Speaker 18 (48:11):
Skip?

Speaker 5 (48:13):
It's a skip like fucking hard. Skip.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Yeah, it's cringe, bro, Like this is cringe in what
he did.

Speaker 5 (48:24):
Like maybe the lyrics for different. I mean I like
the melody, don't get me wrong, but I just think
the lyrics are that's what it would be like. Okay,
let's just take a step back here with the lyrics.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
I swear to crist this was a Kirk Cabinet lyrics.
Remember that. Yeah. Everyone, He's like, now I got these
lyrics to further express myself in the band. This is
why he says that. Bro, he that he does. You're
blaming him. You're blaming him for this song. I think
if you don't write lyrics for men, there is a
reason you don't write lyrics for He's a very emotional guy.

(48:58):
All Right, get a dude. He could They couldn't.

Speaker 5 (49:00):
They could have put this on the goddamn on the refrigerator,
but like here, not here, We're gonna put this right
here on the refrigerator.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Good job, buddy.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
The way he said it in the documentary was like
he was he like bought like a product, and he's like,
now I got these lights to help me when I'm
working out. Now I got these lyrics to further express
myself and that was not open before. I didn't give
a fuck bro who wrote these lyrics. James probably wrote these,
but if Kirk wrote them, I would not be surprised.
I know that Kirk did write a couple of things.

(49:28):
I know they didn't like let him in one hundred percent.
He got like a pre course in there at some point,
for sure, he got a couple of lines in there.

Speaker 5 (49:35):
Got something in there. Yeah, they are the you know,
it's something.

Speaker 6 (49:41):
You know.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
I remember the therapist was handing notes of Like, now
the therapist is fucking writing lyrics for us.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
I'm like that was crazy.

Speaker 5 (49:49):
See that was pretty for me. When when they're like,
oh yeah, I have some lyric ideas, you guys could
probably like, Bro, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (49:56):
Okay, now we already did. I think we did.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
We had a good documentary though. Yeah we talked about
the documentary. But so back to the song. So skip
skip skip Yeah, I think menology says the song and
what the happened? Yeah, all right, next song, the next
one on the record is My World. I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
This was my fucking jam.

Speaker 4 (50:27):
I can't even think about what the song of the dude.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Like, I'll give you a hint. It's about my world.
It's my world. It's Bobby's world, Bobby Ship. Let's pick
scrapes before they were a thing ship. I'm waiting for

(51:01):
the crew. Baby, let's go.

Speaker 15 (51:13):
Fuck.

Speaker 11 (51:14):
Is there Dad.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Trying to make me someone? Now say instead? It's my
world now, it's my roady.

Speaker 6 (51:26):
Now this is.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
God here. I'm gonna let it play for the group.
That's a brain INDI in my room cheer a call
because I was a moone soon.

Speaker 8 (51:40):
Sense got me fun, got.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
A dolls inside and you talk got me lost in sight.
I'm gonna see it right back to me. This all ship,
it's my wilding can what is Alex?

Speaker 18 (51:54):
He's my world, He's my world.

Speaker 4 (51:57):
Our well weldy came and he's my I.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Love this next part. This next part should give me
my world.

Speaker 4 (52:05):
It's my world, It's my world.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Later on the song, he does a wait he did
he did that a couple.

Speaker 8 (52:32):
Time, and he does ah.

Speaker 4 (52:38):
Yeah, goddamn having fun in the studio Headfield.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
This is probably the funnest song on the album.

Speaker 7 (52:52):
This is probably when he came back after the fucking
whole sobriety sober.

Speaker 6 (52:58):
He like.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
James Sounds and.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Papa Papa head killing it man, and he's fucking going
at it to like he's really delivering.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
That like some punk rock in his voice. He doesn't
give a.

Speaker 4 (53:18):
Locally, He's definitely like giving his everything in this album.
But this song, I feel like.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
I'm winning for the It's a mid see. I love
the instruments. Wait world music great.

Speaker 6 (53:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
The first time he says this one, he say, yeah, Hell,
he's having so much fun on the song. Dude, definitely,
I think you forgot Okay. I love this. I love
the song itself, but the lyrics really fucking throw me off.
The vocals throw me off. It's very like, I don't know, man.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
I think there's a lot of like maybe things lines
he was thinking about while he was in therapy, which
you would think would it would bring about a lot
of creativity, but it's just like you're you're repeating lines
being sent back to you from.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
A therapist, like my life style determines my death style,
which was a Kirk lyric.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
By the way, it was Kirk, I hate him fire
that she fucking kisses me off. I was like, no,
no one doesn't, No one doesn't. Bro, you're a surfer,
the're a surfer come down. I love I fucking love
this song. This song is still like one of my
top songs of this this album.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
I love I love this song. But you guys go ahead,
hey on, because it's your world food, it's my world.

Speaker 4 (54:49):
Yeah, I'm gonna agree with uh.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Gie.

Speaker 4 (54:53):
It's although I don't think it's mid it's definitely better
than like the third track, some kind of Monster.

Speaker 18 (55:03):
Yeah, I was instrum.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
I love the ship out of it feels instrumental.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
All right, we're gonna get into the next one. This
next one is actually one of my favorites. This is
shoot Me Again. Why because I ain't dead yet? What
a little poring guitar in the background.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
That's snare bro.

Speaker 4 (55:36):
There, I get.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Man, Lars won't let go. That's not a sick rite.

Speaker 4 (56:05):
I didn't like that rip.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Little system of down in there. It's a little system, the.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
Little industrial Yeah.

Speaker 18 (56:15):
Yeah, with the bullet on my back, I really started
to say.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
He says that the second receive nay.

Speaker 5 (56:34):
Shoot.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Shoot day, shoot day steak side at logic Steak. He
says it so that now though.

Speaker 18 (56:55):
With a bucket, shoot me again, I ain't did yet.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
You gotta do. Like the whitest accident. Can shoot me again?
I ain't did yet. I got hill Billy, Come on, Rudy,
shoot me again?

Speaker 5 (57:10):
That did yet?

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Shoot me again? Yeah, I'm shoot me a guy, Shoot
me a guess.

Speaker 10 (57:19):
Shoot man, shoot me again, shoot me again, shoot me again,
shoot me again, shoo man.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Shoot me again, shoot a ship.

Speaker 5 (57:27):
See.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
I want to hand off this by tight bro.

Speaker 14 (57:34):
Th.

Speaker 8 (57:34):
I n let's see you.

Speaker 4 (57:42):
Sucks.

Speaker 11 (57:46):
The sucks, no sense.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
I guarantee you. This is all three. I guarantee you.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
They were listening to that Toxic City album with this
when they wrote the song. This was on somebody's fucking
CD player and or the Toxicity was on some one
CD player. They were like, hey, we gotta take a
little bit of that because there's some strong I feel
like some strong percent.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Now I agree.

Speaker 7 (58:14):
They also did there's another song. I don't know if
it's played yet, dude, but they totally took a riff
from Iowa.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Dude.

Speaker 7 (58:21):
Okay, once it comes up, I'll be like, oh, that's
the roof. But yeah, ude, they were definitely to smoke.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Down for this.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
There is a lot of new metal, but that's not
new metal, but there is a strong Metallica was just
a lot of new metal because they were torn with
like Lincoln Park and Corn and Disturbed, and they were
taking all these guys out on tour at the time,
this is early two thousand. It's like none of those
bands were like except for Corn, A lot of those
bands weren't BG enough to cary their own tours, throw
an arena tours, so they were.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
Taking a lot of dudes out. Uh Baji thoughts on
shoot me again? On did Yeah, I like it Send
the Mexicans back ahead.

Speaker 18 (59:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (59:05):
I like the song. It's a good song.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
I like.

Speaker 5 (59:08):
I like the songwriting on the album.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
A couple of songs are You've been hating half the
fucking album? What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (59:15):
I like this, I like the song.

Speaker 5 (59:16):
The songwriting itself is good.

Speaker 6 (59:18):
It's just.

Speaker 5 (59:20):
I just don't think this is aged well in production
at all. Guitars sound like ship, drums definitely sound.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Like everything just sounds we're not there yet, that's why. Yeah,
but that's so hard.

Speaker 5 (59:33):
But I like But aside from that, the song writing itself,
like the riffs, I enjoy.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
That is a wild same in Bogic because all there
was just jam and they were like, we got an
hour jamm pro tools. I like this part, this part,
this part, and then I like the riffs. I just
don't like the production. I'm sorry, Hey, you know what
you're entitled to your RIDICULOUSUS opinions.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Yes, I let you have that. I will go no
further because we have to leave a ten uh. I
could say anything, but you got that. We're fucking twenty
three minutes.

Speaker 5 (01:00:04):
Better hurry yup, all.

Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
Right, skip skip kid. I really like the part. I
just hate when he gets a little like with the
shooty shoe shoot yeah, shoot me. I don't much, damn it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Why did you not go out with that song?

Speaker 6 (01:00:23):
Dude?

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
You should have done it, dude, that would have been
shoot me again? What was he bumping the fifty cent
ship this week?

Speaker 6 (01:00:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
You should have Metallica? Shoot me? I didn't nobody make
a mob of that all this part movie the outrup.

Speaker 19 (01:00:47):
Hear that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Song? Alright, spot in his tongue not to shoot man
laws dude. All right, anyways, gone, we're.

Speaker 5 (01:01:03):
Done done with this song.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
It's not it's not bad. It's just the little things
that irked me about it, you know. But I like
the fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
Me and Rudy are fucking vibing like a motherfucker. Look
at you fucks angry, uncultured.

Speaker 4 (01:01:20):
I'm trying.

Speaker 5 (01:01:21):
I'm trying to enjoy this, but I just I can't
get past production.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
All right, Well, maybe you're gonna lie. I'm not looking
at production right now. Once we get to that part.
I shippingham but.

Speaker 7 (01:01:34):
As a fucking like high schooler could do this ship
was awesome, That's what I'm saying. And I feel like
that's it's like now, it's a nostalgic listening to it
in a good way.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Some songs, songs, well, we're not talking about that magnetic
prefer that the album.

Speaker 4 (01:01:52):
Brofar that over this.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Okay, okay, look tomatoes, look you like you like? You
like hen Tai? You like an anime porn?

Speaker 6 (01:02:03):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
You like you live and die by the Sword of Hentai,
right like you love motherfucker?

Speaker 6 (01:02:09):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Are there any I'm curious now, are there any Hentai
characters named Amber? I mean nothing, because the next song
is called Sweet Amber, which is my I think it's
my favorite song on the record.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Really.

Speaker 5 (01:02:29):
I love that little very boozy.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
That shakes the wrist.

Speaker 6 (01:02:39):
M hm.

Speaker 5 (01:02:48):
Can hear him? Large?

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
And oh shit, I'm doing it, guys, I'm doing it.

Speaker 5 (01:03:10):
Let that get into you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
I'm doing it.

Speaker 5 (01:03:14):
God, look at me now, Dad.

Speaker 8 (01:03:20):
Here we go here going.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
That classic Largs group.

Speaker 18 (01:03:32):
Wash your fat so you won't stamp mine you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
Didn't live with your own time, live your.

Speaker 19 (01:03:37):
Life so you don't see drink your own thigh so
you won't shine.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Wash your fat so you won't.

Speaker 8 (01:03:43):
Stamp mine you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
You got to have time, by the way you so
you don't see drink y'all fa so you won't see murder.

Speaker 4 (01:03:53):
She woo my, I guess my.

Speaker 5 (01:04:03):
Oh it's your mine, not lie against my juice.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
A mottle voss jample. You want use a face camblet.

Speaker 15 (01:04:12):
You want to chuse a bottle fox cample, you want
use your fats cambletoos.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
Sweet, Sweet are you Sweet?

Speaker 6 (01:04:27):
You Sweet?

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
Doesn't gaps? Sweet are you Sweet?

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
Doesn't gaps?

Speaker 6 (01:04:41):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
I love that. I love the ending part. That's up sweet,
that classic James right tend of doom. Sweet are You Sweet?

Speaker 9 (01:04:58):
Doesn't gas.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
That right hand of doing baby.

Speaker 9 (01:05:19):
From me?

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Yeah. This song was like about any girl like I
did in high school.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
This was like the song, but like, oh sweet Ember,
wash your back so you won't step MinC you got
a dirty back, bitch.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
You got a stinky back bitch. Shower got a shower bitch.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Uh yeah, sweetever So, I think this is like my
favorite song on the record. I just love that all
the triplets, and I think it's like lyrically probably the
probably like the best lays, the deepest one.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
I don't think it's about a chick. I think it's
about drugs and alcohol. But like I think, like being
a teenager, like obviously that's something like you relate to
a lot. So I think, like I really resonated with
this song a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:06:15):
It's all my feelings, like, oh, I gotta talk about
this bitch five minutes song that's sweet.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
Amber, bitch, sweet Amber, that sweet bit.

Speaker 4 (01:06:29):
Make it sound like a Mexican.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Well, this is my Orange County Chopper days.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
I don't know if you guys remember my Orange County
Chopper days because James would always wear like the Orange
County Chopper shirts and the Hardy Davis. So I would
through like a little phase where I would go to
the song with my dad and buy like ten fucking
Orange County Chopper shirts so they're like, you know, shitty
prints head and I would roll to school wearing like
camo jeans and my Orange County chopper.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
Shit be like, all right, thoughts on Sweet.

Speaker 4 (01:06:59):
Amber fucking Sweet? What else can you say about Sweet
amberde It's a good song?

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
Oh you guys, oh better.

Speaker 4 (01:07:07):
I think it's aged better, but I still think that
frantic saying anger and uh yeah, I feel like.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
Frantic frantics and anger and uh.

Speaker 4 (01:07:19):
No because that one's like that was good, Shut the
fuck up my.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
World.

Speaker 4 (01:07:27):
Yeah, I think those three. This one I put number four,
like it's in the top five of good songs.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
There's a song for me, I'd always skip, dude, really
anything for me?

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
Yeah, I mean I at least appreciate that there's nothing
corny going on with it, like the vocals or the lyrics,
you know, like I'm not that I think I feel yeah,
like I know that sounds like what do you listen to?
Like hello me?

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
Yeah, So it's like every never.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Did the change Michael Jackson's metal vision or some shit.

Speaker 4 (01:08:03):
Yeah, So it's like, but I appreciate Hetfield's fucking vocals. Man,
He's just I don't know, it's right, he just gotta
love his vocals. Man, he gives that one hundred percent,
no matter how shite you might think.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
Speaking of shite, So Rudy's opinion varies from ours. Yeah,
well this song, Yeah, I never liked the song. You
never had a sweet amber. We had a sweet amber,
never whispered?

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
All right, all right, well, I mean all right, all right,
but you know what? You know what I'm feeling right now?
It's a feeling. It's a feeling.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
You got this feeling.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
I'm not sad, I'm not angry, I'm not happy. In fact,
I would say it would be an unnamed feeling like
this next song called the Unnamed.

Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
Feeling, the Unnamed Feelings.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
It's literally the unnamed Phila, take it back. I think
this is my firit selling the record. I think this
is where they got deep.

Speaker 12 (01:09:48):
Wait for it, man, this is brutiant ball makes no sense,

(01:10:14):
will slip on the But this isn't the right I
know the record's talking about.

Speaker 20 (01:10:18):
This is fana I did to stop writing all this down,
Send me.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
Plod into my wood, jill many on the trees, this hole.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
The cool the chill.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
Could say, is gonna be a same killing right now?

Speaker 15 (01:10:57):
Die a little born?

Speaker 5 (01:10:59):
How to do that? I'm saying, Colms.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
Things you can get the room hard, the name she.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
Sometimes I wish Lards would just shut the funk up.
I think if you would have just stopped and let
James and the guitar player, I think it would be
way more impactful. I don't know what the fun Lars
is doing.

Speaker 5 (01:11:42):
It's like he's like, I gotta rite something for this
part because I'm large.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
No guitars play alone.

Speaker 5 (01:11:49):
Yeah no, Daddy won't approve of me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
I meant Lars's Lars is from Sweden.

Speaker 4 (01:11:58):
From yeah, Dane, dame. I don't know if he's Danish, great.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
Great Danish, great Danish from Dane.

Speaker 4 (01:12:08):
So he's a dog.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
Yeah he's a great dame. Oh no, so yeah, I've
always loved the song. I always love the song. I uh,
you know, I'm over the emotional intems like you do
you do feel that? I think the feeling that he's
talking about anxiety, I think like because it wasn't like
a really prominent thing in the early two thousands where

(01:12:32):
people like talked about anxiety and how common it was,
and you know a lot of the references lean to that.
So I'm always like definitely connected with this song. I
love the melodies.

Speaker 6 (01:12:45):
I love.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
I love the guitar performances. I love that little kind
of dirty clean that's going on. That fingerpicked that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
It's like one of the darker songs on the record too. Denmark,
Denmark too. It's like completely just fucking you out to
my personal little.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
It was important. I call them Danish.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
That's differently thinking about suicide and thinking about, you know,
just hurting myself.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
And hearing people that Deadmark. Dear Lars is from Deadmark.
G thanks, thanks lighter perspective. Yeah, yeah, now we know
Larns from Deadmark. All right, we all had a fucking
he's from Dane.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
Well, okay, since I poured out my heart, now you
what do you guys? Thinking would be unawed feeling go
ahead tear it apart.

Speaker 4 (01:13:36):
A part of me wants to commend them just for like, okay,
this is probaby. Yeah, it's like like it's getting out of.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
He has a Jonathan David.

Speaker 5 (01:13:45):
It's a good song. I just feel Mars fucking ruined it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
Here here a little little rats now it's cheesy, but.

Speaker 4 (01:14:12):
Yeah, definitely trying to capture that new metal like spirit
or emotion or I.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
Don't know, like rawness. I don't think it works for Metallico.
I think I think James too like yeah, like you
are about to kick your ass, like not too much.

Speaker 4 (01:14:30):
Like yeah pressed, Yeah, I don't. I want to give
it the benefit of doubt. But yeah, it's just it's
a good attempt. I don't think it's aged very well.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
All right, So we've got two songs left, all right,
the next one, the next one is called Purify. The
reason I'm saying that is because Rudy has said a
couple of times that there is a slipnot riff, an
obvious slipnot riff. That is all this album, and it
is on Purify, which is also.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
Has this so called purity period, right.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
Which happened to have come out around the top of
this album. Okay, all right, so this is Purify. Oh
now we get back into bun James.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
Hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
Every SIPs all scream like bo seed and Jesus what
super sh jo.

Speaker 15 (01:16:10):
Purify you purify, Jolly shut it up.

Speaker 18 (01:16:29):
This definitely has system of a down.

Speaker 6 (01:16:33):
And you know.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
We'll ate for come back and it's the upper coverage
you get hot it is.

Speaker 4 (01:16:44):
Oh this was uh, this is my top three. Yeah,
I remember back then, like I had to skim all
the way just to get to purify.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
I gotta get to purify, man, I need to be purified.
Can't you help me? Not looking for TikTok TikTok?

Speaker 4 (01:17:04):
Done with that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
I need I need some purification, purify. I would say
this is probably yeah, you know what, this probably is
the best.

Speaker 4 (01:17:12):
Song on the album.

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
I think it's not cheesy.

Speaker 4 (01:17:14):
I think it's early two thousands like sound up to it. Also,
that's that's like it was cool.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
If you were to ask me, I think that this
was the first song they wrote. They were like, oh,
this is a good song. We should do the entire
album like this. And then it was not a good idea.
It was like it was that one good song that
they should have just stayed that one good song.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
You know. Thoughts on Purifie. Thoughts reminded me of Mick
Thompson and James that's about it. Yeah, you know, I
was like, oh, ship not real. Yeah, But besides, that's
as far as I got.

Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
All Right, we're gonna get into the last song, which
is For some reason, this song has stuck out with
the band because they've done they do their acoustic performances
for the what the All Within My Hands benefit. The
song is called all within My Hands, and they do
the acoustic version of this song. I don't know why

(01:18:12):
it's not a good song. I'm gonna say that right
up front. This is not a good song. And I
don't understand why the band does this. You guys beat
the judges. All within my Hands the closing track almost
a nine minute song. By the way, shit, that's cool.

(01:19:10):
We're waiting its horn horn.

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
No waiter?

Speaker 4 (01:19:19):
All right?

Speaker 5 (01:19:30):
So where where to go in.

Speaker 19 (01:19:38):
All with the miss squeeze? It is crush it down,
all within my all?

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
That suff phone change that doesn't work? It doesn't work,

(01:20:22):
does not? Okay?

Speaker 4 (01:20:26):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
You said they played an acoustic version of this, No,
I don't. I'm gonna play quick. I'm gonna play a
quick part.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
Sorry, because because you guys heard that, right, do you
hear any of that that could be turned into an
acoustic part?

Speaker 7 (01:20:40):
I don't want?

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
All Right, here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
This is the live at the masionic Uh. This is
helping Hands live an acoustic.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
I bet you this is Lars's idea.

Speaker 21 (01:20:50):
Probably okay, and this version is shorter too minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
We're gonna listen the whole song.

Speaker 5 (01:21:04):
Oh fuck, we ain't.

Speaker 4 (01:21:07):
Seventh count Come on, fix it up.

Speaker 5 (01:21:11):
I don't think large thos what that is.

Speaker 4 (01:21:13):
Though, don't I'll do.

Speaker 13 (01:21:35):
Dear sweet, closed it down, hold it, dear, hold it
dads up?

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
All right? So that's it, really, say hold it, dick?
What did he say? I never looked.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
I've always thought he says that hold it, deer, hold
it suffocate. You see, it sounds like a song you
have to let boz. You would have to listen to
go to like masturbation, rehab, all within my hands, squeeze
it in, crush it down, all within my hands, hold
it deer, hold it, suffocate, all within my hands.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
Love to death, smack you.

Speaker 5 (01:22:22):
Round and round and don't get a song.

Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
And what's funny is like when I look at the
rest of that acoustic album Disposa about heroes, which is
an interesting one, Uh, the Unforgiven, turning the page, bleeding
me nothing else matters. Uh, four Horsemen knows Fox some
weird shit. I mean the other song is like I
understand those like nothing else matters, like sure, but four Horsemen,
I'm like, how do.

Speaker 4 (01:22:50):
You do that? Acoustic? I mean, I'm curious to hear
it because, uh, which is crusic album?

Speaker 5 (01:22:57):
Now just going to I don't want to I want
to hear I don't want to hear Joys.

Speaker 4 (01:23:14):
That's how was it?

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
How did they trying to wait for it? I think
it's coming up there.

Speaker 12 (01:23:29):
It is.

Speaker 4 (01:23:42):
Yeah, that's not that this is hurting st Anchor's review.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
All right, so overall thoughts okay, let's first question, would
guitar solos have.

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
Helped this album? I don't think so. I think that
it was. I think it was a good decision not
to have soles on the album.

Speaker 4 (01:24:00):
And it's not because they don't belong, but it's because
they don't have much to work with. They don't the
songs that you would put a solo in, what I
would say, are like my top threes, like the fucking
singles and you know, even well not purifying, but Saint
anger Man, that would be cool to hear fucking Kirk
fucking go down on that ship. But true, at least one.

Speaker 1 (01:24:23):
Song, okay, and we the production.

Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
So so their idea is they wanted to do an
album that sounded like it was made in the garage.

Speaker 5 (01:24:35):
They definitely they definitely got that.

Speaker 7 (01:24:37):
If that's they fucking did they nailed it because the
guitar look going back now, guitar tones are ship, drums
are ship.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
I wouldn't even see the vocals sound like shit, they're
so dry.

Speaker 5 (01:24:51):
Like it just to me like it's not mixed at all,
Like that's what it sounds like. And if that's what
they were going for, they nailed it. But it just
does not sound mixed because like some songs, fucking Nars
was just fucking all high, and then other songs like
the mix, he sounded like he was like either at
or below the guitars. Then it was just like it was.

(01:25:14):
It was throughout that was like various instruments. It was
just like guitars were too high or guitars were too low,
bass was too high. Basically it's like it the entire
album was like that. And I was like and I thought, Okay,
maybe it's just one or two. Nope, it was the
entire thing. And that's I was like, I'll just wait
and see. Yeah, that's just my that's my grap about.
It's just it's it just doesn't sound mixed. And don't

(01:25:35):
get me wrong, you can have a you can have
a you know, an album sound okay, but like at
least mix it.

Speaker 4 (01:25:44):
I I'm like thinking about what I'm saying, because it's like, dude,
you don't care about like production. You've heard shittier, you know, but.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
Oh yeah that yeah, but I have a whole skeleton
which episode, yeah, skeleton, which fucking a lot of black metal,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:25:59):
Like, it just doesn't sound good, right, But that's okay.
I listened to the music itself and how it's mean
to be presented this way, so I feel like I'm
looking at this album the same way, right, this is
what they wanted, this is the way it was meant
to be portrayed, and they accomplished that. But god, damn,
that fucking snare, man, Like, I think that's maybe maybe

(01:26:22):
that's just me, fucking.

Speaker 5 (01:26:25):
No, that's everybody's a snare is just shit.

Speaker 4 (01:26:27):
Maybe I'm just like looking at drummers.

Speaker 5 (01:26:29):
The drums in general sound shit. It's not even just
a snare. You hear the floor tom, the floor arm
sounds like shit, The symbols sound like shit. Everything on
the drums sounds like shit.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
Just thinking that the kick sounds like an old sixties kick.
It doesn't sound punchy and powerful. So yeah, So Okay,
I think it's pretty popular to say amongst Batallica fans
in the middle community, this is probably one of the
worst sounding metal albums. Yeah, like on Purpose too, which
is probably even worse. But what we're listening to this
album together, and you guys were hating on this record

(01:27:02):
when like we came in, like we were talking about, oh,
you guys, I don't want to do this, I don't
want to sto and here we are, and you guys
were like singing, jamming and rocking and singing.

Speaker 1 (01:27:13):
So it begs to it begs the question I think.

Speaker 5 (01:27:16):
It's just nostalgia? Is I think it's nostalgia.

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
Most of the albums that we talk about from like
it's nostalgia. Some of them don't hold up, right, Yeah,
I can't feel that some of them don't. But I think,
like you could have a good song and have it
still hold up. But the thing, it would be one
thing if it was just saying inger, It would be
one thing if it was just frantic. I mean, you
guys were having a couple of them.

Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
There was a couple that was like, no, I get that,
don't get me wrong.

Speaker 5 (01:27:44):
Like I said, like I liked like the like some
of the more majority of the riffs I liked, is
just the production or the it's not even I want
to say production.

Speaker 1 (01:27:55):
The mix was just not there, Like Lars was not there, Bro, No,
he was.

Speaker 5 (01:28:02):
There, all right, he was there. No, But just like
for me, it's like I love, I love some of
the riffs, but like then I would then fucking like
I don't know, I would love one of the riffs,
but then like fucking large of his fucking unmixed drums
just fucking just banging away, and I'm just like, Bro,
that riff is fucking awesome, Like why would you fucking

(01:28:24):
why would you not mix it? Why would you not
lower your fucking drum?

Speaker 4 (01:28:27):
Mix that shit distracting from the music?

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:28:31):
Yeah, I feel like if you if you look at
it that way, like it was about a call to
make the ring from that you know hit, you know, reverberation,
like fucking ring to be so loud and just like
obscure the vocals, obscure the guitars, you know, especially the guitars.

Speaker 5 (01:28:48):
Just I feel like that's just it's nostalgia. It's like
there are some good rifts there. It's just I feel
like maybe that the idea of let's do it like
we're in a garage was not good, was not a
good fit for the riffs themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:29:03):
So so it's now I ask, no, I ask, is
this a classic metallic album?

Speaker 6 (01:29:09):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:29:10):
Yes, just kidding? No, classic, fine, classic, fine?

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
Class It did not at all?

Speaker 5 (01:29:18):
If fucking define classic, what do you mean?

Speaker 4 (01:29:20):
Like like classic?

Speaker 1 (01:29:21):
Along it made all of us A couple of songs
that class Okay, Okay, that makes.

Speaker 5 (01:29:25):
It okay, I can say that as a classic album.

Speaker 1 (01:29:29):
Yes, but did it age?

Speaker 5 (01:29:30):
Did it all? You're right?

Speaker 7 (01:29:32):
I can't like now, dude, Like listening to this album
is like a chore, except for the first three songs,
like the.

Speaker 4 (01:29:39):
First song after that, rather listen to kill them all
then yeah, and then again this song. This album doesn't
have three fucking jams, you know what I mean? Like badass?

Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
So all right, so I went ahead and that look
up the definition of the word classic. Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
This is the now a work of art, recognized established value. Example,
his books have become classics, a work of art of
recognized and established value.

Speaker 1 (01:30:11):
Now, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
If we talk about classic metal album, I wouldn't even
argue it's a classic metal album. But see, like you
have like Black Sabbage first record something like Ship, but
it's a classic album. But he knows that everybody took
from it. I think you also look at you have
to look at something this way. There's some things in
this album that were a little before its time. The
pick scrapes, some of like the the mor RIFFI pre that,

(01:30:36):
like the the way that some of like the thrashier
elements like the gallops and stuff like that, which at
that time wasn't used a lot in current metal, right,
Like they didn't do a lot of because you know
Corn and Papa Roach and Lincoln Park, like those bands
did not do triplets and and and, But they mixed
it with what was going on with in new metal

(01:30:57):
at the time with song as they purifying all that,
they meshed them together that became popular just a few
years ago, just in the last like five.

Speaker 4 (01:31:05):
Yeah, I was gonna say, like Darren's fucking style playing
pickscrapy fucking just like yeah, like like yeah that that
Ship was all within It's ninety nine to two thousand
and five.

Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
Yeah, So is this a classic metallic album? You don't
have to like it, but I think when you consider
everything from Kill Them all to lux E Turna. Does
this rank up there as a classic metallic album? And
will If you say no, I'll argue your point.

Speaker 1 (01:31:31):
No, I say, yes, yes it is, but it sounds
like shit.

Speaker 2 (01:31:35):
For example, would you consider it Hardwired a classic metalic album?

Speaker 6 (01:31:39):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:31:40):
Yeah, exactly. I can't name you one song with the record?

Speaker 5 (01:31:42):
Yeah, okay, I can going by that. Yes, I can
say that this is a classic album.

Speaker 1 (01:31:49):
Good job making the classic You got one line beautiful?

Speaker 4 (01:31:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
Then it looks a Turner. I love the song looks
a Turner. I think it's a shit. I think looks
turn It is an awesome song. There's a couple of
songs that I like on the album, but I don't
consider that. You know, classic metallic.

Speaker 4 (01:32:05):
Album sounds like another Saint Anger modern sant Anger.

Speaker 1 (01:32:10):
But would you consider sat Anger a classic metalk album?

Speaker 5 (01:32:14):
Classic? Yes? I think with that definition, I would consider.

Speaker 1 (01:32:17):
That definition like recognized popularity.

Speaker 4 (01:32:21):
It's controversial enough where it's brought up you know you're
gonna come across it in the fucking road and you're
gonna listen to it. Getting into Metallica was like, what's
the hub? What's the hubbub about?

Speaker 6 (01:32:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:32:33):
Yeah, Ethna be like, oh, st Anger, They'll be positive
and negative and you'll be like, what do I have
to hear it?

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
Because I think Corn had something similar with the path
of Toatality. There was a similar thing that happened where
the fan base was very divided on But the thing
is that the path of Totality happened, pissed off fans
for five minutes, and the band forgot about it, and
it's not existing in their catalog, where Saint Inger is
still highly discussed, Like, it doesn't matter if you don't
like it or not. It is still reference. It's me

(01:33:00):
and it still has such a bigger impact, so you
have to give it up. This is a classic talk
in my opinion.

Speaker 4 (01:33:05):
I think because they were so huge and such an influential,
you know band from like you know, the eighties, that
for them to have made such a decision to to
their sound, such a drastic change to their sound, Yeah,
that definitely got a lot of people heads turning right
and then divided the fans, which in case brings more attention.

(01:33:28):
So yeah, I'd say classic by those By those terms,
I agree, all right, all right, that is it. I
mean some kind of monster. All that shit is just
it's all fucking grouped, you know what I mean? Like
the marketing, like it's I do have memories of that
fucking era. So it's as much as I hated it
back then, it's it's aged a little better.

Speaker 2 (01:33:49):
Okay, and really quick, what would we rate this album?
Not a fucking seven point five and a half with
three quarters?

Speaker 1 (01:33:59):
Fuck talking right now? We're ranking them in terms of
or we're ranking we're rating them in terms of how
much we.

Speaker 4 (01:34:07):
Like the record out of what?

Speaker 1 (01:34:09):
But ten? Are we talking about it? Like?

Speaker 7 (01:34:12):
How much you like the record now as a fucking
thirty something year old, Yes, when it came out as
it has aged, Okay, as.

Speaker 5 (01:34:19):
It is aged, I give it a.

Speaker 1 (01:34:23):
I give it.

Speaker 5 (01:34:23):
I give it a three just because of the first
three songs. That doesn't make sense because there's not It's like,
there's like twelve yeah, but out of the first yeah,
so that is I like the first twelve. I like
the first three.

Speaker 1 (01:34:36):
That's that doesn't make any goddamn sense. Watched three. I
agree with you for once.

Speaker 7 (01:34:42):
The last three tracks I always skip as a as
a younger kid, as a younger human, So give it
you skipped Purify. Yeah, I didn't like it, dude, Like
I thought it was really cringey.

Speaker 1 (01:34:56):
Hm.

Speaker 2 (01:34:57):
That's so that kind of goes back against okay, but
I'll accept you're writing.

Speaker 1 (01:35:04):
So you go to three, you go to three, No,
I just say three. Okay. Oh well we're talking about
me right now, I'll give it like a.

Speaker 6 (01:35:13):
Four.

Speaker 7 (01:35:14):
But if we're talking about me in high school, dude,
that was like an eight nine eight nine. But now
it's just it just it did not age well at all.

Speaker 5 (01:35:22):
Nope.

Speaker 1 (01:35:22):
So so we got a four out of ten. We
got a three out of ten. Hondro surprised me.

Speaker 4 (01:35:27):
My first number that came out, and now I'm like
fucking going back on it. But I did think of
six just because there's like three to four tracks that
you can for me. Like my personal rule is like
if even if it's like an okay record, you know,
you know, even like the shittiest MA get that record,
there's always like fucking at least three four songs that

(01:35:48):
I can like pull off. And I feel like this
album if you have at least three four songs that
are bangers, and it can't be that bad, right, So
that's why I'm giving it a six because those three
songs you know, make up for for me? Uh why
why isn't it out of seven? You know, because it's like, well,
the rest of the track hurts it, you know, to
even climb up even higher. And I'm also thinking about

(01:36:10):
other worst records of theirs, you know, like if this
is a sixth, then I think another record Lulu would be.

Speaker 1 (01:36:17):
Like, but Lulu is not a Metallica record.

Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
It's a side question, it's a side progress on it
not considered another the main Metallica discography.

Speaker 1 (01:36:28):
We don't consider Lulu that.

Speaker 7 (01:36:30):
That's like saying phiography album that came out that was
not considered at all.

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
Still, okay, so either way, okay, okay, okay, So so
so we're ranting. Okay, so we got a three, we
got a four, we got a six?

Speaker 4 (01:36:47):
What say you?

Speaker 1 (01:36:49):
You know what? Alex is gonna get mad at me
right now.

Speaker 4 (01:36:51):
I'm lower than me, bro I wanna look dumb higher.

Speaker 1 (01:36:59):
This guy taking his mic off the thing. I've been
doing that a lot lately.

Speaker 2 (01:37:04):
You just noticed anything that busted David Bluntz right now,
I love all my dudes.

Speaker 1 (01:37:13):
You got a three, you got a four. I was
surprised you chose six, really, because mine is a five. Really,
congratulations the highest review. I'm gonna look.

Speaker 4 (01:37:27):
Stupid given higher. Oh damn it. Yeah, I really like
Purify that I'm gonna say that. I was a reminder
of like holy Ship. I love Purify like you're never
You're never gonna this. I just love that purifact.

Speaker 1 (01:37:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:37:48):
I like that You're never gonna let this down. But
you you you give the highest rating of the group
to singer.

Speaker 1 (01:37:59):
This guy like anybody like Saint Inger.

Speaker 11 (01:38:03):
Right over here.

Speaker 4 (01:38:06):
Oh you're technical.

Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
I like music that challenges me. Six out of ten.

Speaker 4 (01:38:13):
God damn.

Speaker 1 (01:38:13):
I hope David don't listen to this one.

Speaker 4 (01:38:15):
He's not gonna want to hear give Metallica recorded all right?

Speaker 1 (01:38:19):
Well anyways, all right, so we hope you guys enjoyed
this episode.

Speaker 2 (01:38:21):
Unro, thank you so much for the only positive rating.

Speaker 4 (01:38:26):
If I had my own review system, it would have
been different.

Speaker 5 (01:38:28):
Because a six you don't even know your own reviews.

Speaker 4 (01:38:32):
You don't know your own five points something.

Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
Oh all right, I'll give it. Fucked up, all right,
I'll give I'll get a five point five. Yeh you
fucked up? All right, guys.

Speaker 1 (01:38:41):
Thank you guys so much for tuning in. We appreciate.
We hope you enjoyed this episode.

Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
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our band to find the Terrans. Had to find the Terrence.
We have new them coming out very soon. We'll probably
be dropping the release date in a few episodes, will
probably be revealing the release date for that because we're
already playing.

Speaker 1 (01:39:25):
We're done. We're done with the album. We're done with
the album. We're done with the album.

Speaker 4 (01:39:28):
It's there's no more so.

Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
The album's coming out.

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You can follow me as the one who knocks on Instagram.
The o's are zeros and underscraft every word mister. Six
out of ten over here out of ten.

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Fuck. You can find me at Metal Underscore handro J
and d r O, and.

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You can follow me at Slap Underscore.

Speaker 2 (01:39:54):
That doesn't make sense because you're not playing bass anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:39:57):
Says who you. Just because I'm not playing.

Speaker 1 (01:40:00):
We have you on the last episode, saying retired for music.

Speaker 5 (01:40:04):
I'm taking a hiatus.

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You got to make another type of music with that bass.

Speaker 4 (01:40:11):
You need to make a make your own singing.

Speaker 2 (01:40:13):
Make your own art style based art style, some hardcore,
some art style bass.

Speaker 6 (01:40:18):
I like that.

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