Sleep Token "Even in Arcadia" ALBUM REVIEW: Is Sleep Token even Metal?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What is up everybody? Today? On Metaology, we are reviewing
the new Sleep Token album Even in Arcadia, and we're
gonna ask our fellow gatekeepers and metal and lead us
up in this room, these two guys. Is the new
Sleep Token album metal? We're gonna answer all that and
more here on this episode.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Of All Metalology.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
That's pretty on point. Yeah, you like the little like
a backhanded comment?

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Three?

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Do you wait? Hold on? Do you find it as
a complement that we see you as a gatekeeper?

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Do you do? Do you love it?

Speaker 1 (01:03):
You love it?

Speaker 2 (01:03):
I don't really get riled up. Instead, I just fucking
love it because it's just I don't know. I don't
do it on purpose. It's just, Man, this is what
these guys feeling me. I am the way I am.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Yeah, Yeah, I am what I am?

Speaker 2 (01:18):
I am?

Speaker 4 (01:23):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
How about you, Rudy, do you do you find a
fund of that we see as a meddal elitist?

Speaker 3 (01:27):
See, I don't feel like I am.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
I've seen you as a medal ladist since we were
in high school, because I remember, like, hey, man, would
you listened to Olympiscuit Gay a man a part gay?
Like you listen to this? But you did get me
into Iowa.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
So I feel like as as a younger as in
high school, I definitely was like that, but now like
I feel like I'm I feel I feel like I'm
way more open and more open minded as I've gotten older.
But I guess, I mean, I guess I have a
certain taste, you know, like taste really and see. One
thing I would say about Sleep Token, dude, I like
I would be super into them because of the masks. Like, yeah,

(02:03):
one of the big things for me, Dude, I love
a band that's like has an image, you know, and
they stick to it. Because these guys people still don't
know who they are, right or have they? I remember
that they leaked something, but they are one of the
biggest bands in the world. But I'm saying, if do
they actually know who the people behind the masks are? No, Yeah,
and that's I think that's pretty fucking cool because I mean,
not even something I could keep, you know, the identity

(02:26):
hidden for this. I feel like these guys have kept
hit him for a while, so I think that's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah. I would say, between me and you, I'd say
you're way more open minded than I am. Like at
least you've surprised me, like like oh shit, like damn,
you're you're into this like all right, like I don't know,
and then you got like really into like hardcore like uh,
reggae it like electronic. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
I listened to a lot of hard style, hardcore, up tempo,
roth style, all that stuff. I like a lot of
stuff from the Netherlands to be you know.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah that's something like within the last ten years.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yeah, big new to me.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah, okay, So I just love the dynamic with that
we have on this podcast because I think it would
be boring if we have like four dudes like me
or like four gate keepers, four metally you know, you know,
I think of the four was I'm the most probably
open minded as far as taste goes. Not like that
that's a bragging way. I just I grew up with

(03:26):
music in a different way.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
I would say, you're as open minded as Rudy is,
but you're on the you guys are on the fart
uh extreme dude.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
I listened to a lot of different random.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Stuff, yeah, polar opposite, which is like good.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
I feel like one day if I if I sat
down and showed you some some like electronic stuff, like
really this like especially with the vocals in it. Like, dude,
like you know one thing that we talk about that
you guys saying, you guys think I don't like female singers,
you know or whatever, Dude, I hear I hear a
lot of female singing in electronic dance music, and it's
me it's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
You just want female singing in that metal. Yeah, just
so that that's a very big difference between me and
Rudy Alex.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
But I mean I'm still kind of I mean, I'm
still open minded to, you know, different genres. I guess
I just I have not necessarily a Actually yeah, dude,
I could say I have like a specific pattern for
specific genres. I like to hear things, you know.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Things, No, No, that that's I'm not like talking about
that more so like like more heavier underground ship like
you would probably be like, oh, okay, that's where I see.
Like you guys are like on the fucking graph like this,
you meet in the middle. So that's what makes it.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
I don't know, I just listened to a lot of stuff,
so you just like it.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
I like it.

Speaker 5 (04:40):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
I think what do you think about it? Very I
don't know, I think I'm the one. I'm the most.

Speaker 6 (04:47):
I think I'm the most diverse when it comes to
listening to actual music.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Are you fucking kidding me? Do you listen to folk? Yes, everybody,
I do listen. I got you in the phone. That's
when I'm playing acoustic guitar. I'm playing folk music. Like
that is not true.

Speaker 7 (05:08):
I do love.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Okay, what's your favorite R and B record?

Speaker 5 (05:13):
R and B?

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, you don't know?

Speaker 1 (05:15):
R key what I believe I can fly there you go.

Speaker 8 (05:19):
I believe.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
That's like asking a you're a metal head, right, what's
you favorite? What's your heard of metal song? Ander Samon?
I love that that blows? Yeah, I fucking love that song.
Like all I listened to in the car is like
R and B nineties hip hop and like seventy soft rock.
That's all I listened to, like the last few years,

(05:44):
and the new stick Token record, oh and the and
And you want to talk about diverse. Do you listen
to soundtracks?

Speaker 4 (05:51):
No?

Speaker 1 (05:51):
No, no, no no no no no no.

Speaker 6 (05:54):
Scores scores, scores. I've heard a couple. I like the
Lord of the Rings one.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Uh believe everybody likes the Lord of the Rings one
that's I like the Star Wars score. Some people do.
I understand some people do, but that that you listen
to one or two things. God, there's like effects on that.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
That's one thing that I'm not really too like into
movies scores like I used to growing up, but I
feel like its it depends video games, depends on on.

Speaker 6 (06:19):
The score itself, because sometimes I do listen to like
the little the during the movie, like when they'll play like.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
A bit of the score, I feel like you're lying.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
No.

Speaker 6 (06:29):
I feel like, unless it really catches my attention, I
won't listen to it. But if it's something where I'm like,
that's fucking.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
I don't think you like it to the I think
Tony is probably like the biggest.

Speaker 6 (06:39):
Yeah no no, and that aspect, Yeah, Tony definitely.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
I'm not gonna go all of us.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
I mean I never listened to that ship.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Okay, so another big difference to me and Rudy. But
it's fine.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Like we all, we all we all have our video
games score, video games, movie score, video game.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
I like video games too, okay, like the Doom soundtrack,
The Dude, Yeah, the New Dude. Anyways, I was super
soked for the new Doom game. I already pre ordered it.
Something medieval. Yeah, I just finished Doom Maternal for like
the third time.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, it's uh where you get in like a big
giant Mecca's ship.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
It's it's the.

Speaker 6 (07:16):
Private Dragon, It's the it's the pret I guess the prequel. Yeah,
it's prettqel the entire series apparently make another. It's more
like thrash here the first two or more gent. This
one's a little more like kind of traditional metal, which
is cool. But yeah, I mean I've known you twenty

(07:38):
goddamn years more. Yeah, Yeah, I don't have different things
that I listened to. Well, I don't always play it.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
But he is the most open minded, right, that is true? Yeah,
most I'm taking.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
I'm taking everything, and I'm putting them on the list
of things that bring up as we review things, and'll
be like, why aren't you the most open minded? Yeah,
does not like it. But we got racist of metal here,
we got mist of metal, and we got a if
I like it, I like it.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
We got we got indecisive, incisive metal. I like music.
I'm more like a like a liberal, more of a
liberal music music listener.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
It's very progressive the ms. He likes. Dream Theater is
his favorite band. Oh no, no, okay, sorry.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Anyways, all right, so we got to get into the
into the into the review. So today we were talking
about the new Sleep Token album. Even in Arcadium, we'll
get some context as to like just to prepare the
listeners for our prestances on sleep Talking, because I think
that's important to go into this record. You're picking a
hell of a time to funk with lighting. But we're cool.
This is behind the scenes ship right here.

Speaker 9 (09:01):
We gotta keep it.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
We gotta keep them moving, dude. I got to keep
that energy.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
The show don't stop. Show must go on. It's like
going back to the there you go. That is not
that's blue, that's not white. I'm color blind, bitch, you're
not color blind.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
And he's not.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
You're not color blind. You are not colorblind.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
No.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
He proved it because at the end of the day
when we were looking at Pokemon cards, they had like
little stickers with prices. Let me tell you something, and
he's like, oh, eighteen bucks might know, bro, it's actually ninety.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
He does this ship. There's some weird concept that will
happen in his mind. And then he'll grasp to it
and then all of a sudden that's reality, and then
that's the reality for the next year or two, and
then after that he'll completely in five years. When you
tell me a Archie colored wine, I never said that
I'm partially color you're not. There's no such thing as
being partially colorblind. You see the color, you don't see the.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
So red and green, red and green? Can we talk
about that one of the Vegas trips or something?

Speaker 6 (10:05):
Red and greens, that's those are the two colors.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
I can grasp to these concepts. I forgot the last thing.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
You can see red and green, right, I can't see.

Speaker 6 (10:15):
Them, But I can't differentiate from afar if something is
red or.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
That's because you need glasses. That's because he needs glasses.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
He needs glasses because it's bright. It's right, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
When he stop wearing glasses, I thought he got the
lasik you you wear glasses. He just stopped.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
I used to bro wear glasses.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
What your eyes? I got better?

Speaker 1 (10:41):
It did, like it doesn't. That's not the way that works.
I just stopped. I'm partially color blind when I'm pulling
up to a stop, but I can't see the color
you know, wear glasses.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Curious, it's curious what life looks like with.

Speaker 6 (10:59):
A hen time no harsh blind, I forget ever get
the proper.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
There's no proper term doesn't exist. You need to wear glasses.
Semi you war glasses up until like five years ago,
semi color blind.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Just wear glasses. I don't feel like they're great. Honestly,
I wouldn't be. I wouldn't do ship without him. I'm blind.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
As are you far sighted or near sighted?

Speaker 10 (11:22):
I am?

Speaker 1 (11:24):
You'll know I am near sighted. You need to wear glasses.
If you're near sighted, you can't see far. You can't
see far. So if there's colors that are afar that
you can't differentiate, that means you have to work glasses.
Even that's not true, that's not that is true. No,
because this didn't happen until just like two years ago.

Speaker 6 (11:45):
I've always been like I just never really fucking cared
to think about it.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
I wonder if there's if there's a test you could take.
There is, but he won't do it.

Speaker 11 (11:57):
He won't do it.

Speaker 8 (11:58):
He won't do it.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
We need a documentation.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
What you have a doctors know this is I'm blind colored?

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Okay, we got to get to this review, because we
got to get the read, because the mystery continued. We
all agree he needs to wear glasses.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yes, I want to see what what's going on with
the whole no glasses glasses situation.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
That's not going to change what it's not going to
Well what I saw. I still can't tell the improve done.
I can't tell the different from afar. All right, this
is like what he said, I can't turn left.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah, remember the three years where you have to always
take right turns and like get into that one show
just took like an extra thirty minutes.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
And out of nowhere he started trying left, and I
was like, what happened?

Speaker 2 (12:42):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (12:44):
It's these concepts, he'll grasp, you're talking joking. I don't
ever not turning left once.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
I took an extra hour to get to friends.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
What he said, I'm amby dexterous. What does that mean?
I could write with both hands, and it's like he
writes with the left hand. All shitty, dude, you can't
write with your No, I can't write my name. I
never said I never reverse. And then of course, and
then two years later, oh, I never write with my
left hand it's it's it's adorable, it's so cute.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
We love you.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
You don't have to do interesting ship. Just live life.
That's all I do.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
I'm like, I'm like you, dude, I grab fucking whatever
I like. I just fucking grab it. All right, let
me try this out. You know I like work, so
don't I like to trauma brag that trauma trauma.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Speaking of trauma bragging, we got to review this album,
so we're gonna ask ourselves on this episode. I met
all on this podcast mm hmm, with the four of
us of us idiots and somebody who apparently doesn't know
how to be on a podcast on time. Yes, we're
gonna call you out a little bit.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
And I'm being called out. Got my drink though, God.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Damn it, I never learned my life. We are gonna
ask ourselves. Is this new album a metal album? And
I've heard it four times already, that's all I listened
to like the last two days. I want to know
just how many times you guys ever heard it?

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Zero times? This will be my first time, so going
in blind, okay, going in blind.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Rudy And now we kind of know Rudy's opinion already
but we're gonna how many times you listen to this album?

Speaker 2 (14:23):
It was probably gonna give it away.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
I got to like the third or fourth track, and
then I didn't listen to the rest.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
So I take it that you absolutely love this album.
Got it?

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Got it?

Speaker 1 (14:32):
He loved it so much he had to stop.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah, I was listening.

Speaker 5 (14:36):
I was.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
I was listening at work, and while I work, I drive.
I was on the freeway. Do you want to put
it on? And I started nodding off a little bit,
man like, put me to sleep, not gonna lie. So
then I had to switch it up to it to
wake up.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
So so someone say you had someone gave him a
literal sleep to sleep. I love it.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Fucking death came out here and say, here you have
some tokens sleep.

Speaker 12 (15:00):
Like no.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Boji.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
How any times have you heard this record?

Speaker 1 (15:06):
And a wonderful all right, all right, so we're gonna
get into the personnel real quick. Before we get into
the actual album, which we're gonna play a couple of
snippets about a minute, minute and a half from the album.
We're gonna probably I've already heard it a couple of times,
so I can highlight a couple of things to kind
of share and get into some opinions about that kind
of stuff. But the personnel on this record is interesting

(15:27):
and if you are somebody who's into like metal software plugins,
I think you're gonna dig this one. So Carl Brown
produced and mixed this album. Jim Pinder engineered Here's where
getting the Good Ship Adam not only Get Good, the
founder of Get Good drums and uh, what's the fucking
the GGD the.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Guitar packs that we use. Yeah, it was the archetype.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
The archetype nolly, Uh, we use that for our album.
For the New Defined the Tyrants album. He did additional
production Sebastian send on additional engineering, drum editing, and the
drum editing for this album I can just imagine was
a fucking nightmare because it's the drumming on this album.
Like I'm just gonna say this up front, one of
the big highlights about this album was the drumming. Like

(16:13):
you guys say whatever you want about the music, the
drummer fucking program.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
First, No, it was all recorded.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Uh, Steve Carrey did mastering and Gabby Rose played saxophone
on two songs, So they're saxophone on this album.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Nice, nice, beautiful, beautiful.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
All right, So before we get into it, just kind
of like some pre pre convo love of context as
to like our thoughts on sleep Token as a band
as a whole leading up to this record. Oh, we're
gonna start with Baji and you can't say I like it.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
This is a podcast.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
I really like it.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Okay, I like it a lot, so.

Speaker 6 (16:56):
So I I forget. I think the single Carara came out.
I don't know if it was Caramel or the or
De damescus.

Speaker 5 (17:07):
The No.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
I'm talking about like before this album, including the singles
like were you a fan of sleep Tooken?

Speaker 6 (17:14):
Yeah, before the before this album come out, Yeah, I
was totally I'm totally a fan of sleeptoking fucking ever
since we did that, even like when we did that
episode with Travis Travis, Yeah, yeah, I was like even more.
I like, you got me even more into sleep joking.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
So that's what's cool about I think me and Baji
because you didn't hear Sleeptoking before that, right, or you
kind of did. I kind of.

Speaker 6 (17:35):
I heard like one song and I was like, oh
this is pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
So I feel like we both kind of like we
heard a song or two, and then we did an
episode Travis Neil, like three years ago. Travis Neil. Uh,
he's currently the Fructures for currently the front men for
a band called Fractures here in San Diego. He's our boy. Uh,
former vocalist for Divine Heresy. He replaced Tommy Vex. That's
Dino Cazeris. What was his side side band or his
main band after Fear Factory. So Travis did a lot

(18:01):
of cool shit. Actually, you have the advice everybody go
check out those episodes. We did a sleep Token episode
with him and we did a full interview and we
also had his son, kid Heartbreak, on the podcast as well,
So you guys go check out those. Shout out to Travis.
So Travis, I feel like because I remember, like a fuck,
we're sleep Token. I don't know any sleep I know
one song like Hypnosis was like the yeah. And then
we sat down and he made a list like I'm

(18:22):
not gonna tell him, hey, like this was before we
did the whole six seven eight song playlist. Yeah, he
had like fifteen songs and we just sat there and
vibed for like two hours listening to sleep Token and
by the end of it, I'm like, I'm a fucking fan,
Like this is y so different from what I listened
to as far as like metal goes. And uh, ever
since then, like I remember, take me back to Eating
tim taking it from you know, yeah, take me back

(18:43):
to Eating. The last album I is one of my
favorite records of the last ten years. Next to this,
it's probably like one of my favorites up there with
like the spear Box Eternal Blue album. That's an album
like I turned to a lot, but it's very inspiring
musically from me out the lyrics mine was a was
it this place?

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Fuck?

Speaker 1 (19:02):
This place is your fuck?

Speaker 5 (19:05):
Now?

Speaker 6 (19:05):
I'm forgetting the fucking album. I think it's the one
right before this one.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
I got it.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
I got it.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Uh this Place will become your tomb. Yeah. That that's
my fucking favorite album so far.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Got it? Got it?

Speaker 1 (19:16):
So uh myself in Bagi or I would say, like
sleep Token is a band, if they come to San Diego,
I'm one because I heard they put on an amazing show.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah, And would you.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Say the same thing. Are you like a big fan?
Are you like I'm a big fan? I would definitely
want to.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
The opposer brou name three Sons.

Speaker 6 (19:38):
But but going from that to like hearing the singles,
uh Camera, I think this this most dems. Like I
was like, Okay, I'm gonna check this out. This Like
I like Camera has been my fucking jam. Yeah, fucking
I mean, we'll get on. I mean, when once we
get to songs, I'll say my opinion. But I think

(20:00):
Caramel is by far like my favorite of the album.
But I think it's like the staple song of the
of the album.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah, I would agree. I think Carol is my favorite
song of the year, Like when that song is just
fucking awesome. I'm trying to write a song that's kind
of like a darker, much darker, like Defy the Tyrance
version of that, because def I is getting ready to
start into music. Yes we are, so Hondro and I
are like kind of like in the labs right now.
We're just kind of getting the formulas together. We're getting
we're getting the recipees together before we bring them to

(20:29):
the table to the band. So I'm trying to work
on a song that is a little a lot darker
than Caramel, but it's a big influence on this new songwriting.
But anyways, so this is this half of the room.
This is myself in Baji and now we're gonna get
into the uh gatekeepers if you will handro thoughts on
sleep talking.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Were you a fan, No, I would say I've never
been a fan. I respect the just the genre bending
like movement. It's always been there, right, you know Lincoln Park,
you know that that comes to my mind, Limp biscuits,
stuff like that. But this is like the newest, like

(21:10):
generation you know what I mean, like new generation version
of that. So it's not something that I hate. My
girl likes, you know, some of the songs. You know,
I've been kind of like, you know, let me push
it into her direction because someone would appreciate it. But yeah,
it's it's definitely enough for me. Okay, Rudy.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
I mean I've heard him a couple of times. I've
I actually, you know what, I actually kind of did
give them a try. The reason I found them was
actually through this guy that made that they made their
masks when they I guess not the first version of
their masks but the ones that they're currently wearing or
I don't know, think on new ones. But it's this
guy from the UK name under Instagram's Lonnie masks, so

(21:58):
he pretty much you know, show down hit Asia grammed like, oh,
you know, this is the biggest thing I've done yet
to this date. I made sleep Tokens mask and I
was like, oh, okay, so I check them out because
they look fucking cool. I'm not gonna lie. The fucking
mask wild amazing. So I listened a little bit, but
then that's about as far as I got, you know, Okay,
but I found them through super young kid dude that
is really good at making masks.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
That's all right, coo cool.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
So for this review now, I think we're just gonna
stay it up top. Some of the songs are long
and they take a while to get into. Normally, we'll
play like a minute, minute and a half of us
of a song to get to offer our thoughts, sometimes
two minutes, sometimes the full song. We're not gonna do
that for this episode. For this episode, We're gonna kind
of play a little bit that's up top, and then
I'm gonna kind of fast forward to highlight like the

(22:42):
heavier parts because we're a metaology and we have to
talk about the more metal stuff. And but I'm not
gonna lie this album does not. It's not a predominantly
metal heavy record, So I want to emphasize on the
metal stuff too, and that is gonna require me to
fast forward a little bit to some of the metal stuff.
So I'm just letting our listeners know up top, we're
not listening to full songs and we're gonna nfst fort

(23:04):
and through some stuff a lot. And the big question
of this episode, like I said, would we consider this
album to be a metal record?

Speaker 5 (23:13):
Metal?

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Is it metal?

Speaker 13 (23:15):
Is it metal?

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Little?

Speaker 13 (23:17):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (23:19):
My opinion, this is the biggest record of the year.
I said that outside This album is gonna blow doors
wide open for this band. They're about to become the
biggest band in the world in my opinion. They're gonna
be the new as much as like you guys might
hate to say this, but the new five Finger Death Punch,
the new Limp Bisk like lim Helen Biscuit was back
in the days, how sleep Token is about to be
Like they're gonna be the top dogs?

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Oh right?

Speaker 1 (23:41):
So I think this is gonna be the This is
their Chocolate Starfish.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Album for sure? Are they gonna be on w W E?
I almost said no, I don't, I don't I don't
They're not that kind of band. Maybe I don't know.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
Hey, you know what's actually speaking of that?

Speaker 5 (23:57):
Dude?

Speaker 3 (23:57):
You know Pente is right? Yeah, I love Pento, So
I guess, uh fuck, it's the guitarist from I think
they said Tool, right, he dressed up as Penta and
was playing the guitar and now I guess he just
re recorded Pensa's uh the theme song and now he's
actually playing guitar on that. I thought that was pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
That's cool.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah, w W is gonna be like trying to align
more like rock rock music because rock music is coming back,
rock and metal or getting back into the mainstream. So
you're gonna see a lot more that w W stuff.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Well, during WrestleMania, I know you don't like him, but
Carry Carry King came out for Priest. He played guitar
for Priest. Yeah that's pretty cool. Yeah, Priest still lost
them because kry.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
King did his if he had James Heaf Oh god,
all right, So we're gonna move on from Kerry King
and we're gonna start looking at the Sleep Sooking album.
Even in Arcadia, this first song is called look to
Win Word. It's a little darker, reminds me of what

(25:11):
I expected, reminds you of born this way. Oh yeah,
you're turning on your Superintendo data.

Speaker 8 (25:16):
Gaga lay to Goga.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
And now it's not the first two notes were.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
I mean, it sounds like fucking Zelda music. So I
kind of like this.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
That's the way imagine going home at night, putting on
your game playing this.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
It's like the song Gonna Die do as they laid
me into my fucking six feet.

Speaker 8 (25:37):
Days, just as my mouform starts to face.

Speaker 14 (25:44):
Losing this war of a tris.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
We were taking off. The pennies is adrift.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Everything you gotta be sexual.

Speaker 8 (25:54):
Missing cliffs in.

Speaker 5 (25:58):
Will you this suit? Cliffs in May?

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Will you want this su clipson start slapping titties.

Speaker 8 (26:08):
Want this clips in May?

Speaker 15 (26:13):
It's a long intron with the shindose loners.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
As I say, this intro is like night three minutes.

Speaker 8 (26:30):
No, no, I'll will come here on this minute.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
I think I don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 5 (26:40):
Last line, everything.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
The heart's feeding?

Speaker 8 (26:46):
Will you this zu cliffs?

Speaker 1 (26:51):
You heard Bogie breathing, he slapping his day sir.

Speaker 6 (27:11):
You, sir, oh, come on.

Speaker 7 (27:51):
The spring arrangement.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
The drummer's paying attention to that the drumble.

Speaker 8 (28:15):
Let's enough to brace diamonds.

Speaker 16 (28:18):
You break the sound enough, break dumb, my fate, the
denial for the man.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
That's enough about something the air.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
So that that was snippets from look to when word.
That was a long ass intro with the heavy part.
We'll start with baji.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
When.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
So when I first heard this, I did I did
get that, like how long is it gonna go?

Speaker 6 (28:53):
But I love like I love the right through it
all because it was just like, Okay, it's starting off slow.
I did like the whole video game like sounding aesthetics
to the intros, like okay, fuck with this, and when
it gets to the fucking heavy part, I.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Was like, oh yeah, it's an interrection at the beginning,
just oh link link zdo.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
I like that and I expect that's pleasant surprise.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Let me turn on my Nintendo three.

Speaker 7 (29:21):
I got to see our TV.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Rudy.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
The fucking intro is so long, dude, It's literally three
minutes in like thirty seconds. So by the time I
got there, I was like, Okay, this is the fucking music,
you know.

Speaker 10 (29:37):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
When they actually started playing instruments was amazing. But the
soft voice talking and.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
But then so when they played the metal, I fucking
love it, love it, dude. It's fucking heavy. But then
it transitions over to trap. That so what I mean,
don't you like electronic music? Trap? No, dude, yeah, no, trap,
you love diversity.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
I thought we were open minded. Yeah, the whole fucking genre.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Of music now draped for me in twenty and twelve,
I think, you know, so it brings back that trap,
the trap memories. Then that's what I tune off again.
But the metal section that like, what was it like
forty seconds? Forty seconds? If I'm being like, you know, uh,
that was awesome, But the other stuff is like you know.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
On Yeah, I like the Zelda reference and a cool
little easter egg I thought for the listeners, so I
appreciated that.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
I don't think that was the.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
The eight bit part.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
I don't think he was like, how am I going
to open the intro of the album of.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Zelda playing Legend of Zelda?

Speaker 1 (30:53):
And I don't know if that's what happened?

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Okay, but that's okay, But yeah, I mean it's it
builds up, you know, over I'm and eventually it fucking
explodes with the metal part. I see that they use
you know, like fucking brutal, fucking metal to represent like
an emotion maybe maybe like just just ferocity. But then

(31:19):
the neutral sound is is I don't know what kind
of music that would be, but the more R and
B trap stuff. So I respect that if that's what
they're going for, you know, I'm just trying to get
a feel like I feel like the metal stuff is
only going to come out for just like strong, like
fucking like explosive emotional parts.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
Like builds up, build up.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. Okay, So that's my prediction,
all right.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
You know who what I would say, this slip token
reminds me of of like a very very modern, very
futuristic version of Queen. I can see that Queen. I
can see because Queen was the same way Queen. Queen
was a rock band, getting the rock band, but they
did like opera ship, they did like neo classical ship,

(32:06):
they did like old rock, like old school like Elvis
Presley rock music. Yeah, they were very genre Bennings. So
I think that sleep token is like the modern metal. Yeah,
it's like the cyber answer to Queen, which is I
think if you look at it that way. It's kind
of cool.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
I can see that.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
I fucking hate queen, so it's kind of ridiculous for
me to say that. But yeah, fucking you see. Okay,
So you guys like that ship?

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yeah, the greatest, the greatest hits are like ship.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
I gotta sell you this video.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
See where we're see. Hey, if we're all the same,
we'd be fucking boring.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
We would be fucking boring. You guys are ridiculous. All right,
we're gonna get into the next song on the record.
This is Emergence. This is my son's favorite sleep Tooken song.
He's getting into sleep talking right now. He's getting in
like just metal music, like he's the slaughter Toper bell
that's like a ship right now.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
He's loves to keep them on that he loves.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Is he wearing like track suits? No?

Speaker 3 (33:06):
No white what.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Because the Russian the Russian Mafia though they had because
they had a video. They had a video where they
were in tracksuits like the majority.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Of when whenever I think trash suits, I think of
fucking Jonathan Davis Rue for sure.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
All right, So the next one is the Emergence. Remind
you of the wind Well, you were.

Speaker 11 (33:39):
Living on all I am the.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Christ.

Speaker 5 (33:51):
You are not dumb.

Speaker 7 (33:54):
First and I know the world.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
This is Baji's second time of the day.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Were close to the.

Speaker 17 (34:04):
He's finding a video, so it's time. Oh who's talking
to the video? You see a hand come out of
the street touching. But you see what I mean by queen,
get this big time?

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Yes, I just.

Speaker 7 (34:25):
Keep piano.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
You know that sign sexy wait for it. I got

(34:51):
wunch of guys to think I got ship though, sent
just said this fucking.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah, let's go. I love the partner scholarship.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Here we go.

Speaker 18 (35:06):
Are you under no rag glass on my life?

Speaker 16 (35:11):
Oh, dold on my coach of sapphire, on my wife.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Burst out my love the lyrist.

Speaker 8 (35:18):
And the mens, my blood feet so alive, my.

Speaker 19 (35:21):
By right through your lousy night in my mind, drown
and not the Dane.

Speaker 7 (35:27):
God speak to my enemies.

Speaker 12 (35:29):
And bas I love the wood because I do that
on stage with you. Guys, do that dunking trauma fallen name,
come on.

Speaker 5 (35:47):
Your arms all right.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
So now the metal stuff is gonna start coming in
in the second right on the right, on the mark.
I want you to time the guitars.

Speaker 16 (36:08):
Oh God, that God's face stuff oil to ros doc
das Solstice danceing this song fire on the Winds that started.

Speaker 7 (36:19):
From winds me.

Speaker 5 (36:21):
So come on, man ryus, tell me what's your man living?

Speaker 1 (36:28):
And last man you well the fucking drummer and I'm.

Speaker 8 (36:32):
No sho fine bos.

Speaker 5 (36:38):
Where you go?

Speaker 1 (36:42):
And then back to the queen stuff. It's beautiful that
a boy, he had a beautiful take my panties off
exactly my.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Can you take your panties off, Rudy for this?

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Not for this, I mean I take someone's panties off
and not live.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
I want.

Speaker 7 (37:21):
I get butt as naked form this part.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Oh yeah, I didn't butt ass naked butt ass naked
baja naked bog. There we go, you guys ready, Oh

(37:52):
fuck your mother, Fuck your mother, Fuck your mother. That
your mom. Your mom's cool. If I'm just saying, like
in the g scheme of deities, like your.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Mother, the scheme of the world of our existence.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
So good emergence. All right, So we're gonna kind of
stop doing the whole like kind of round table. I
just want you guys to just start throwing. Just jump in,
just jump in. So Rudy, you had something to say
that here, Okay, So that that fucking Okay. Would you
say the choruses when he says when you put your
arms around.

Speaker 9 (38:24):
Me or whatever?

Speaker 1 (38:26):
No, I would say the chorus. That's it's what would
you call that? Like musically, it's a repractice?

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Okay? Well that part the way they change his voice
into that deep yeah, the pitch. Okay, that dude has
done a lot in Trap, and that's the part that
bothers me, like, because come on, they do it in
trap all the time.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait, there's the sacks. There's
let's have a drink just a second.

Speaker 5 (38:59):
Serious.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
This reminds me of the single dad and the lobby
of a hotel on Christmas Eve.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
You have to be a smoking a stick.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
This is me walking out of Hong Kong?

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Is this the new incredible whole theme about Rudy's walking away?

Speaker 9 (39:15):
All right, America?

Speaker 3 (39:16):
That was badass?

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Anyways?

Speaker 3 (39:18):
I love I love this.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yeah, that's great.

Speaker 5 (39:20):
Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
That was good.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
And it's not little. It's like a minute and a half,
just like the ending. You really get to sit with it.
It's awesome.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
It's like, hey, I mean, just like this song just
fucked you. And I was just taking a fucking smoke,
you know, with you in bed.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
When when I said to you guys a minute ago,
this is like the modern Queen. Did that change your
perspective of the band for this song a little bit?

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Did?

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Could you guys hear that a little bit more?

Speaker 3 (39:40):
I did when you when you pointed it out, I
was like, oh, Ship, you're fucking right big time, big time. Yes,
that didn't change your opinion though, you see here here's
the thing what I'm about to say, though, So there's
certain things in this in this like for example, this
song that I like, you know, but then there's also
certain things that I'm like, I've heard that, like the
trap thing, the trap influence that I'm hearing in this

(40:00):
very hit for me, it's very heavy, and that's what
off puts me. But then when you hear the metal part,
the queen part and some of the synths and Ship,
that's it's fucking cool.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
So it's just they're so was it gender bending that
you're saying the genre fucking have so much ship into it.
It's it's that's why it's like hard to call it
metal like you, I mean, for me at least, you know,
But there's a lot of aspects that I do like,
but then there's also something I'm like, eh, okay, so.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
It's yeah, I mean, I love it. I love that
the you know, there's there's a trapping up top, and
then the second time they bring it around that's when
they add like the real drums and like the heavy guitars.
I love a lot of like how they're meshing the
electronic drums with the live drums and that you could do.
It's not like the live drummers playing the exact same
beat as the program drums or the electronic drums. He's

(40:49):
doing like some Mike portnoise ship over a track.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
But whatever they're playing right now sounds cool. Oh yeah
the sense Yeah yeah, dude, that's fucking dope.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
So and I love the flows, Like the hip hop
stuff is not really apparent before with sleep Token. On
this album, it's very there, like it's it's right there.
And I love that it's not like no longer like
rap metal is the thing. It's just like now an
added genre into a form of music. And I love
like we There's been a lot of bands that are
doing that now with like We're not rap metal. We

(41:17):
you guys edited a rap part, but that doesn't mean
rap metal like pal Face has that one song oh yeah,
and it's like, yeah, it's kind of it's a rat
metal song, but that doesn't make them rap metal. Like
the heaviness and everything is still there. So anyways, I
love this song. This is one of my favorite songs
on the record, which is funny because it's the first single.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
Song I've heard so much rock. One of five three
is playing it like every thirty minutes. Hell yeah, yeah,
it's big right now.

Speaker 5 (41:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
I mean, like the perspective on the band, it's like
I have to kind of think objectively, like, dude, I'm
not gonna like this, you know what I mean at
the end of the day, But I can see why
people like it.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
I feel like, it's not that your fucking backhanded comments.
I feel like I need to think of this objectively.
I'm not gonna like it, and I don't like it,
but I get what No, but he's being iis though,
I feel like, no, I know, that's what's fun.

Speaker 6 (42:10):
It's going back to what Brandon said. He's choosing not
to choose like this. It's not that he doesn't, he's
choosing not to like he likes it deep and deep
and you know, right, this is he But he's like,
I can't anyone know that I like this because then
they're gonna it.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Just features a lot of genres that you don't don't
listen to. So it's all like this is new to me.
So if this is original or not, I wouldn't know,
Like obviously that's not who cares. But yeah, so it's
a it's just a lot of music I don't listen
to in the metals, Like it's like one stamp like
per song kind of thing. So yeah, okay, fucking downer, dude,

(42:49):
choose to like it?

Speaker 3 (42:50):
You don't I get you? You know I get you.
He's not talking No, No, I know him well enough.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
I know him enough.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Look look, Alex, I wan you to choose to like
this next one.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
I will choose.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
No, I want you to choose.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
I want you to.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
I want you right now be like I'm going to
enjoy the next song. I'm going to find myself enjoying it.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
I'm gonna look in the mirror and say, Alex, you're
gonna like this next one. That's right, I'm gonna repeat
it ten times.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
And I'm choosing a hell of a song to do
that with, because this is the only song on the
record that has no metal. It's a straight up R
and B song. This one is called past self So
it's Twilight Mesker right, No, it's some Benny Blanco sh
It's like you hear bad Bunny in the background.

Speaker 8 (43:35):
Oi, I am gonna long well man, No, it's not
a game.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
N Okay, Look, I'm just being straight up. There is
no rock or metal on this song.

Speaker 5 (43:48):
There is.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
This is a straight up R and B song. Do
you guys want to hear it or should I just
skip out? Because I'm I love this song. This is
like my third favorite song on the record. It's a
good thing.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Yeah, Okay, are you sure you can do whatever you want?

Speaker 1 (44:02):
No, I'm asking you guys because I don't want to
waste time, and I.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Know I think this one skips like no metal.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
I was like, this is a podcast?

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Is this r ology?

Speaker 2 (44:20):
I like that logy?

Speaker 1 (44:23):
H But okay, so we're gonna we're gonna skip this
one because I feel like objectively, neither of you are
going to remotely like this song at all, and I
feel like we will. Yeah, So I'll just say this
on the song. If you're somebody who's into sleep token
that likes when they do the more R and B
is kind of stuff. I feel like you're definitely like

(44:44):
this song. I think it's well written, it's well structured,
and it's personally my third favorite song on the record.
Emergence and Caramel would be my top two.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
You should play like a snippet of like the Climax
or something.

Speaker 9 (44:55):
You know.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
Okay, sure, let's do that. And I want to hear
no complaining, No, I'm not on the come.

Speaker 8 (45:01):
On passo, double take him on, cash flow, a pull.

Speaker 15 (45:04):
Of Jo's admistrated the Frankly, I'll stop thinking of years ago.

Speaker 8 (45:08):
You know what, deliver red on, cut in out of
the beam and I don't need a dock side.

Speaker 15 (45:13):
They just needed like two thousands ms, rushing through the seasons,
falling through my moment. No take it on, lead, gave
away on my press, left off witless.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
So it reminds me of like a shanty and is
my hear singers, So that's what it reminds me.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
I can I can totally see that.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
So now you guys know why I wanted to skip it.
So you you don't like it, you don't like it.
We're fine, we're gonna.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
It takes me back to the t r L there
go this this should be in t r L.

Speaker 5 (45:52):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Okay, so we're gonna go in the next song. Now,
this might be a little dangerous. Okay, old the song
is called dangerous, so it's gonna be a little dang uh.
This I told Brandon, this song reminds me of We've
shown you guys, rufus rufous the soul. Yes, this is
what the song reminds me of, very strong rufous.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
See and it's it's that's like electronic music, dude.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
Like, so.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
I was gonna say, what one thing with this album
that kind of like with the meshing of the genres,
it reminded me of the Bring Me the Horizon album
to a certain extent, I feel like they go a
little bit more like I call this like riz music, dude.
Like his voice is very like sexual you know. So
that's that's the difference.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
You don't play You don't play this music when you're
sad or you're angry. You play this music when you're
about to pick that chick up. Hey, hey baby girl,
let me get you a car, because you don't know
if it's gonna be dangerous. This next song is called
bos you just got home from work.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Long day.

Speaker 8 (47:02):
Looking your eyes were I'm call.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Him mine the eighties style guitarm de troyes.

Speaker 6 (47:11):
What's the last I don't know why if they give
me audized.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Like yeah, I can definitely hear all on this too.

Speaker 11 (47:22):
It's like.

Speaker 5 (47:24):
Dang to the right signs.

Speaker 7 (47:37):
Grow.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
It's like the end of the Terminator.

Speaker 12 (47:41):
I'm dangerous, asylum love Okay, this is where.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
The terminators now.

Speaker 9 (47:55):
I know why you cried.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
It's like Terrifiers ship this one, said the soundtrack for
Terrifier A little bit since all right, here we go, God,
I could.

Speaker 8 (48:16):
You something you just cut?

Speaker 7 (48:23):
That's a cold beat. It's just.

Speaker 5 (48:28):
You ja.

Speaker 6 (48:31):
To me, that's just.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Not trap, like the beat itself.

Speaker 6 (48:36):
To me, that sounds more crackish than the other thing.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
That is crap. Definitely cut.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
Yeah, But the other time I was like, no, that's not.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
Just trap, bro.

Speaker 5 (48:47):
No.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
There's also one of the more shorter songs on the record.
It's four minutes us Dang. I think it's a heavy

(49:32):
part of here.

Speaker 19 (49:35):
No.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
It's such a good song. I love this song, dude,
that's a good one.

Speaker 6 (49:41):
Lastly, oh Jed that vocal a little.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
When he hits the highest I feel the melodic in
that part and it's it's moving.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
What I love about Vessel is you can tell the
emotion he has so much. I feel like there's so
much trauma there, like just as a human being speaking
on Vessel of the character, but just there's so much,
like I feel like relationship trauma because all the songs
they have about relationships, they're all about that, and it's
such to an extreme degree where it's not just my

(50:13):
heart's broken because of you, it's my whole world went
through an apocalypse because of you. And I dealt with
the follow him the trauma that for years. And I
feel that you can really tell the emotion through his
voice when you really listen to and you really pins
the lyrics, and I think they're very poetic. So I
just want to highlight the lyrics. I think these lyrics
are amazing as lyricsis this is like my favorite current
lyrical record. Yeah, so thoughts on Dangerous, anybody wanted to

(50:37):
jump in Dangerous? Fucking great song?

Speaker 6 (50:40):
To be honest, I don't know like lyrically, No, No,
like his melody throughout, like his vocal melodies have all
been on point, Like there isn't like a melody where
I'm just like, oh, he he overdoes this lottery overdes that.
It's like no, it's like everything he does is like
very calculated when it comes to like the melody and

(51:03):
the rhythms. So it doesn't sound like it's very like
So it doesn't sound like it's the same.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
That's what I like about it. It's just like each
song is its own thing.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
I'd be curious to hear what their influences are. I guess,
like I don't know, maybe the singer, Yeah, yeah, he's
a good fucking singer. But I like the don't don't
don't don't you know what I mean, Like when you
said terrifier synth, Yeah, yeah, yeah, those are the parts

(51:36):
that I liked from the song.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
You can talk ship if you like you. I mean,
I'm not telling you not to talk shit. I don't
express yourself.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
I want to hear what you have to say. I
don't hate it though so far there's nothing.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Yeah, there's no guitar centric parts. It's not a guitar
centric album.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
Maybe that's what it's true.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Maybe that's why you don't like it. Music centric.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Yeah, so I'm having to put different fucking brain caps
on and ship. But uh yeah, man, this is just
I'm glad you like it. That's all I'm gonna say.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
All Right, Rudy, So this song, I will say, I
actually do enjoy it. It reminds me a lot of
Rufus still sol dude, big time. It has all those
like elements that you know, different styles and synth dude,
there's a hello synth in this ship. So this song
actually did like and I actually am enjoying his voice
more when he hits those hives. Yeah, when he hits

(52:36):
those highs, I'm like, oo melodic ship, dude, and I
like that.

Speaker 5 (52:40):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
So of the four so far, this is your this
is the only one I like so far. Okay, so
we got him on one, got him moment on a
high five teamwork one. That's one more than.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
Because I feel like this song has a lot of
E d M elements into into it and I relate
to it. Yeah, you know, and melodic. So that's it's
up my alley.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
So I mean, sorry, sorry, it doesn't sell like replication,
but I'm trying here, I'm trying real hard.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
Alex war bringer revocation any just any would be cool.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Well, I think this one is gonna win you over.
I'm not saying the whole songless beats.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
Yeah really this see I didn't get to this one
the last one, last one we just heard was when
I cut it off. But also I was hearing this
in the car, like on the freeway, so it sounds
way different than when you have like headphones one like
now like that I'm hearing hearing a lot of it
does sound really like like orchestra, like orchestrated. It's very

(53:36):
you know what.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
As we go, like when we finished, I want you
to revisit the I'm gonna give you a little homework.
Revisit the record one more time. Go for a drive
for like an hour, an hour and a half something
like that or an hour.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
I feel like this kind of music though it's better
to listen to with headphones.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
I've listened to it with headphones on my aarpods and
I listened to it with my speakers blasting like all
the way up, and it hits so different, the low
end and the bumps. You really feel it. It's such
a very engaging record as far as like you know,
because I feel like the white people like hip hop
music is because it's engaging. It's probably more engaging. I
think's why metal bands started using things like EIGHTO weights

(54:14):
and loops and shit, because you feel it more in
the car, Like when you're you know you have the
ato waits blasting. There is a physical impact that's happening
to your body that also resonates with how you're listening
to the music. So that's why a lot of bands
started using eight o weights because like boom oh shit,
like you can feel it. It feels almost like a
live show. So try and listen to it again in

(54:35):
the car and just blast the motherfucker just like all
the way up and just run through it and see
how you feel it might be more tolerable. This is
also a TikTok band too, like you mentioned earlier. Yeah,
not that the band does a lot of TikTok shit,
their fans do so much TikTok shit, and that's a
big reason why the word has spread about this band. Anyway,

(54:56):
So we're gonna get the next song. I feel like
this next song I feel might win Alex over a
little bit. It is I'm not saying the songs of
Revocation but about halfway through the song, it does something
that they don't normally do with their metal ship, which
is it gets pretty fast, which they never do. They're
very mid tempo, kind of corn kind of live in

(55:17):
that world. They don't do a lot of two steps
and blastpets and shit. This song they do, but you
would never guess that when you listen to the first
couple of minutes. So this one is my favorite song
of the year. This is Caramel. Listen to the note

(55:38):
choices on.

Speaker 20 (55:39):
This say back for the good times, right foot.

Speaker 11 (55:55):
And the roses that food on alone.

Speaker 8 (56:00):
I'm gone a bead.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
You two are gonna hate this song and a.

Speaker 8 (56:04):
Second but manco and sing the words I love this show.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Here we go, Here we go?

Speaker 6 (56:10):
Who me?

Speaker 11 (56:11):
I like Brada devil in my deeds?

Speaker 1 (56:18):
Even remember what I said about the live drums. Listen
when this parts, when this part comes back around with
the live drums, how badass ist sake?

Speaker 5 (56:30):
Come on?

Speaker 16 (56:31):
So steak, steak, sit me like cabos you're singing.

Speaker 7 (56:40):
Isn't he happy?

Speaker 1 (56:41):
He's so happier right now. Look at the spell on
his face. Look he's thinking of father.

Speaker 19 (56:49):
Go all right we go, He's good God Sam that's
going to be nobody in the barn.

Speaker 21 (56:59):
The god drawing off to talk about.

Speaker 9 (57:05):
Parker every time, trying.

Speaker 8 (57:08):
To show real name, just to get a bass for me.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
I don't know how he's doing. So I'm gonna dance.

Speaker 5 (57:21):
I just want.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
Somebody I'm trying to captain.

Speaker 10 (57:27):
Just stand.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
All right, here we go, So let me see those
bogies caramel.

Speaker 5 (57:45):
Y all right?

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Oh yeah, so it's a it's a heavy chorus. I
want to fast forward to what I'm talking about. Oh
the end. I love this part, all right everyone.

Speaker 5 (57:58):
I love that field up dad, I'm god.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
I love that lyric.

Speaker 6 (58:04):
Dee ah.

Speaker 10 (58:04):
The lyrics, my no, I got that the baby I did.

Speaker 7 (58:29):
Yer Cops, Alex.

Speaker 22 (58:45):
Got the stages of prison.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
And beautiful twitching contraction.

Speaker 22 (59:22):
I'll say what I'm give and deepest inc.

Speaker 8 (59:28):
I love that, but maybe I didn't.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
Fucking I love the lyrics.

Speaker 3 (59:35):
You know what I did get better? You got that?

Speaker 1 (59:41):
Like the lyrics. Like the lyrics are amazing, like like
besides like the music and like I love it. I
love it all. I love the fucking lyrics. They're just
so aren't you?

Speaker 3 (59:51):
The emotional emotional butterfly.

Speaker 6 (59:54):
Sometimes I have emotions I'm surprised sometimes sometimes I let
myself feel a couple of things.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
It's a lot of hard.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
So this is my favorite song on the record. This
is my favorite song of the year. I adore this song.
I don't understand why neither of you would like the
song outside of the bad Bunny beat that I get it.

Speaker 7 (01:00:13):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
I listen to that shit. I love bad Bunny, I
love I love all that school bias. I know you guys,
so when we talk about open minded.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Let's keep that the later half of the song like
the first half of the.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Song as a whole. I don't want to divide the song,
so I don't want to say I only like the
metal part. I want you guys to like, just what
do you like the song? Like the artistic integrity behind
the song, that the vision, the vibe of it. I
don't fucking know, like you guys like this is badass,
like I like it. Like it's just it's I like it.
I feel it's two complete polar opposites. Yeah, but it's

(01:00:49):
thrown in It's like it's like the modern new metal.
I would I would like me personally, I would see
it as a modern new metal because, like what did
the discussions we've had with like new metal and general
like how it's like no one band was the same
Corn and Limbiscuit not the same, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:01:07):
And I feel like it's a like it's a metal band,
but it's not like a metal band. I feel like
it's the modern it's a modern new metal band.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Yeah, the metal did come back.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Yeah, and I feel yeah, And I feel like and
I feel like it's like the same thing.

Speaker 6 (01:01:25):
You're either gonna like it or you're not. Me personally,
I'm like, I like this ship other people like you.
You know, you're not gonna you're not gonna enjoy it
as You're not gonna enjoy it as much. But it's
still I'm just saying it's good.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
What are you talking about? I like Krabby Patties, do you. Yeah,
I mean it's definitely. It's just not like the kind
of music I listened to at all. Yeah, because it
they do have eighty percent of it is that those
genres that they're you know, mm hmm blending in a

(01:02:03):
ninja blender. It's because of that reason why it's like
I just have no fucking reference. I mean, I don't
really listen to this kind of music at all.

Speaker 6 (01:02:12):
So but I mean, but I'm just curious as to
why you would want why do you need a reference
if it's.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
I guess what I'm trying to say is like I
not I can't be objective about like eighty percent of
the song right because it's like I don't have any background,
you know what I mean, I guess where I can
speak like objectively but subjectively for sure, I just don't
listen to this kind of music at all. And I'm
not going to start.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
I'm not going to start.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
I don't mean it like that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
Perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
I'm like, I'm not going to listen to that. I
mean like I'm not going to start. I don't want to.
Oh god, damn it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
I mean, you know Cherio, why.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
I would just say, oh God, that's great.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Well but dude, yeah, this song is like definitely like
number It's been number one on t r L for
fucking ten straight months. It won't stop, Like I can.
I definitely see that. Yeah, this is definitely a t
r L number one all right, Well, daily, you know,

(01:03:25):
I guess I kuss so what I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
I know it would not be on doesn't do blast beats.
I mean they had slipknot that nothing in that song
was like that heavy the duality.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying, like, in my mind,
I just see it as like the number one because
eighty percent of it is that kind of music.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
Yeah, it's it's it's like I wouldn't say, I don't.
I don't want to say mainstream. It kind of is
mainstream definitely. Yeah, So I mean, and that's why.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
I guess it is. It is, but it's not. It
leans means they're bending.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
A big time by adding that fucking blastbeek part to it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Yeah, but what they do with it, though, I think
like the pop sensibilities are way more technical. Like most
pop music is just four chords, whether it's on synth, piano,
whatever the fuck. What they're doing is so musically complex
you don't even know it, you know, like they're like
just that. Like like I was telling Ox at the
beginning of Caramel, when you look at that toy box
or the music box intro, that's not even played in

(01:04:28):
the traditional popway where it's like eight notes or whatever,
like each bar is alternating different things. It's almost like
jazz piano, but very very slow down into where it's
pop sensible and then even the beat like yeah, it
starts off with that records on beat, but then when
it fucking comes into the drummer, he's fucking doing weird
shit and it doesn't have to be fast to be technical.

(01:04:49):
He just you know, all his fields are in weird places.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Yeah, they're Their musicianship is definitely no like accident like
they're there definitely is like a formula and like understanding
and being able to combine two different genres, you know
what I mean, Like that some people like work best
with the genre itself and then the sub genre is
like metal thrash, this mix it to their like okay,
that's but combining like electronic fucking you know, beats and

(01:05:17):
blast beats and shit like.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
And I actually I do respect the idea of what
they're doing because musically you have to look like this too.
Most metal bands, when they add these pop things or
these electronic things, the electronic stuff is usually like very simple,
and then the metal stuff is what's more complex. Sleep
token is the opposite where the metal stuff is simple.
It's super simple.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Doom doom doom, doom doom doom, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
And it's the pop stuff that is super technical. It's
just super technical shit. You can't be some like like
in order to write like that, you cannot be somebody
who just like learned by ear. You have to be
musically school to know how to do all this crazy
shit because there's so much going on musically with this band.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
A lot of but you but you like not like
ten producers, like you know, like the other well best music.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
I think Vessel wrote most of the ship. That Vessel
he plays piano and he writes a lot of the ship. Yeah,
so I think he's like the master might even.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
Be I give this more props than like just the
pop that ship, you know what I mean. It's like
you got ten producers writing or ship, bro, you know
what I mean. But yeah, so this is like definitely
more kudos because it's like it's like a video game
Expedition thirty three right, Like that was made by like
supposedly like three people only, which is like, holy shit, dude,
like like that's impressive.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
Yeah, all right, we're gonna move into the next song.
This next song is called it's title track. Even in
Arcadia love like that.

Speaker 6 (01:07:03):
It's okay, kind of like the music box, It's like
windows like, yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
Like these little things. It's like, you don't hear this?

Speaker 5 (01:07:12):
What is that?

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Everyone checking their phones.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
Oh, Billy, is that you?

Speaker 13 (01:07:27):
No, Dad thought you died in that car crash?

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Kiss you?

Speaker 21 (01:07:33):
The car was cold.

Speaker 15 (01:07:35):
Now consigned, bam us call you.

Speaker 13 (01:07:47):
Judgment hard for consons?

Speaker 8 (01:07:57):
Oh the gods were thought of it.

Speaker 11 (01:08:00):
Die watches so bel that places you away and.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
Do this thing for me for Billy.

Speaker 5 (01:08:19):
What I am?

Speaker 7 (01:08:22):
The final.

Speaker 8 (01:08:30):
Is missing from those scritches.

Speaker 10 (01:08:33):
As will be.

Speaker 5 (01:08:36):
Play.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
I love a sound design in the same due.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Insu.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
It's like anime music. What dude, I can d do
the winds when.

Speaker 5 (01:08:52):
I love calling to.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
The list coming next winter. It was like an A
m B came out of Hearts video with this with

(01:09:20):
this song, That's.

Speaker 10 (01:09:21):
What I'm gonna say, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
It has like a very Kingdom's heart vibe.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
So this was even an arcadio I did. I played
this one. This one's like not really metal. The reason
I chose to play this one instead of the other one.
The other one just straight up R and B like
a Shawn T T R L R, not R Kelly
Nelly Nelly like very much like that kind of like
old school vibe. This is just a very beautiful song

(01:09:50):
and I love the lyrics. I think the lyrics have
to be highlighted because I want I want Rudy. You're
always like you like the lyrics. You like lyrics, So uh,
I will keep like teasing like new def Ship. What
I'm going to be bringing into the next to five
face is a much more harder emphasis on well written lyrics,
like more poetic metaphors stuff like that. So I'm really

(01:10:14):
like in that mode. And I don't even have the
lyrics for the song in front of me because it's
not on Spotify yet. But anyways, thoughts on even in Arcadia.
You guys have been Arcadia. You know, I was about
to I was gonna say, I was gonna say something
about that. It's like, I've been Arcadia. I know you
have you I remember you've told me that two weeks
in Arcadia. Like, I'm just curious, like.

Speaker 6 (01:10:35):
Like because the picture in the in the background, is that, like,
what was that taken in?

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
Actually nothing in this looks like fucking Arcadia. This is
none that we don't get cherry blossoms. I don't know,
I've never been there.

Speaker 6 (01:10:48):
I'm just asking because it's just weird because I was like,
arcadia is like after that, after like, well, besides you, like,
I've never heard of Arcadia.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Yes, it's Arcadia flower, we can only find there.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
Oh my bad, I've never been to Arcadia? Are been
to Arcada? California, Arcadae Arcadias In Greece, Arcadia is a
word with multiple meanings. It can refer It can refer
to a region in Greece, a poetic concept of a
utopian pastoral palette, a paradise, or a city in California, Ah,
it is a city in California, So yeah, I guess
it was. The term arcadia evolved into a poetic symbol

(01:11:25):
of an idyllic and unspilled wilderness. In ancient Greek mythology,
Arcadia was a place of peace, abundance, and harmony, often
associated with shepherds and gods like Hermes and pond Penn
Fine lost Eden.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
A.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
Call back to eat lost God. It can also be
seen as lost idyllic state of being, a sort of
eating that is unattainable. I love that, dude, I love
the lyrics, I love the concept everything behind that. Goddamn.
But yeah, thoughts on even in Arcadia? Why I look
this up real quick.

Speaker 6 (01:12:00):
Fucking amazing song, fucking like I love ballad. I guess
that ballad.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
I love balloting.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
This is the halfway point. Yes, okay, this makes sense.
I mean, probably a good spot to put this kind
of song. Yeah, divide the waters.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
Thinking about Billy.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Morning, Billy accepting Billy's last.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
So we have nothing else to bring to the table
on this one, you guys, just.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
It really does nothing for me at all.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
It's nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
It doesn't even does all your guys music have to
be like just pumped up aggressive like no.

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
Because like.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
Most of the time beating right now, do you even
have a heart?

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
Yes, I do.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
Like what we're crying about Billy lyrics. For me, I
got lyrics.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
I got lyrics, But you know, I have listened to
other music that's emotional and heart feeling, heart feeling. Just
this for me, it's almost this song. I mean, I
know I'm gonna get shift for saying this. It just
sounds monotone to me.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
I don't at all.

Speaker 6 (01:13:04):
It just sounds like it sounds stock to you that
we're trying to say.

Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
Okay, I got the lyrics, it's building up and it
never gets to the building the explosion part I.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
Got, I got the lyrics. Uh okay, come now swing
wide those gates, because I have paid my penance kindly
well in time for judgment Day. Somehow I knew my fate.
Turns out the gods we thought were dying were just
sharpening their blades. How have you been waiting? Oh wait,
how have you been waiting long for me? I am
the final dawn. I am the flood, And what was

(01:13:34):
missing from those scriptures will be written in my blood.
Dig down into the mud. What good is all this
talk of wings when there is nothing left above? That
fucking lyric goes hard, dude, No matter how we feel,
we've got a taste for one another and a few
good years to kill. No matter what is real, it
seems that even in Arcadia, you walk beside me still.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
So he does have an Arcadia building.

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
It's a it's a it's metaphor. So that does nothing
for you. We thought the gods were dying. It turns
out they were just sharpening their blades.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
Everyone has a lot of cool lyrics out there. I mean,
I don't. I'm not really a lyric kind of person.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
You know, I know, I feel like we see it
just depends.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
I know you're kinds of lyric Alex, that person standing
there blood all right, you know what, fine, fuck y'all,
fuck y'all. All right, we just won't talk about this
song then what Even in Arcadie, we're gonna be move
on the next one because you too, do you have
anything to say on the song? Even Arcadia?

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
It's a transitional song.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
It's transit.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
It's just me.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
It has no value. Yeah, no, God damn it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
Am I going crazy by corn? Like that's a good
transitional song.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
But that's like thirty seconds.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
I know this is four minutes exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
No, it shouldn't have because the lyrics are amazing. It's
a full song.

Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
I don't know that's cool. I guess when it's talking
about gods and ship it just seems very biblical and
religious to me or something.

Speaker 7 (01:15:05):
But it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
It sounds but so talking about gods and they were
we were sharpening our blades the whole time.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
And you know that's not religious, that's mythology. That's like saying,
like a song about Zeus right like that. Really, I'm
making a list of things I'm going to be bringing
up in future episodes.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
Saying lyrics this lyrically wise is amazing compared to Baby Metal.
Sorry about like they're actually trying here.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
Okay, we gotta move on, we gotta move We forgot
talk about it. I have to write and I have
to write more songs with you. You're making this very
difficult to give excited.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
We haven't even I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
Over here like I'm working on it. Sounds different. Pianos,
sense electronics and alex I don't like any electronics and pianos,
and since I like any of it, I'm like, you're like, hey,
scratch that, scratch that scratch. No, we we haven't even started.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
So it's let's do it. Let's do it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
Let's do it. Let you in my back Door. That's
the only song I remember. Okay, this one is called Provider.
Will you guys provide some more artistic, integral opinions to
the podcast than just like metal el I'm playing, I love.

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
I mean, the question is is this medal?

Speaker 5 (01:16:31):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
Okay, we'll go with that. We'll go with that. Is
this metal metal?

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
Well, so we'll provide a provide it for us. This
is providers.

Speaker 8 (01:16:40):
Oh want a provider?

Speaker 11 (01:16:48):
Cluck you but I right, your own show your.

Speaker 14 (01:17:01):
Secret inside dies, Oh lot of beer. A provider, you're guiding,
your final decider.

Speaker 13 (01:17:19):
The beard of Furty, you fire stoke your desire.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
All right, just love me.

Speaker 13 (01:17:30):
The the love.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
This has a worky skill too. It does a s.

Speaker 23 (01:17:48):
The the Lassie week World, each child, harm myself as it's.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Yeah, I started.

Speaker 5 (01:18:03):
Joe.

Speaker 24 (01:18:04):
Friends bodies converse.

Speaker 22 (01:18:32):
Like old friends.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
Our bodies converse like old friends, old sprang whatdy knows
what I'm talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
What sun.

Speaker 10 (01:18:55):
S Charley Reno?

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
All right, yeah, I'm just waiting for it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
Pardon provid. I want to be your provider. I want
to provide for you. I'm proud this cock for all
of y'all. I actually this was my least favorite. This
is my least favorite song. One my second least favorite

(01:19:44):
probably told like right now. But I'm like, oh yeah,
that part's pretty fucking sick. Like you know, I think
it's a little It's moved up on my list a
little bit because I forgot that because you listen to
full albums and times they blend together in a little bit,
so this song kind of got lost in the shuffle.
But I like this song, h I like Provider, I
like it, I like it, I like it. Let me
hear you, trash on provider. It didn't provide.

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
It didn't provide for me.

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
What did it not provide to you?

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
Alex brutal just interesting, like not really interesting to me musically.
But I will say that I like the guitar part
and that journey and like that part was sick.

Speaker 9 (01:20:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
No, absolutely reminded me of the paradigm shift corner where
they were using like a lot of that, you know
what I mean. So yeah, that's all I gotta say
about it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
See, I feel like you can kind of relate to
him how he says, like, I feel like, Okay, like
this song, Okay, No, I feel like sleep Token. If
you're into fucking for play, you're gonna love sleep Token.
I feel like they fucking foreplay the ship out of
you throughout the whole song. Like it's a lot of
built up, a lot of fucking build up, you know.
I mean, some people love that. That's what I'm saying.

(01:20:56):
If you're into for play, you're gonna love sart Token.

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
Are you into for play?

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
Yeah? But I mean fucking not fucking three hours of it?
And then and then we get to like, you know,
fifteen seconds of some hardcore ship. This music is blue
balling me slightly. But I will say this, I like
the synth a lot. The synth is really really fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
Cool, so there's something there keeping you going.

Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
Then the synth.

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
Yeah, the the like a raw stick fucking from the ground,
a branch just poking my dick, making sure it stays
hard but it hurts. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21:26):
I feel like the electronic part to the to the
music is kind of like still keeping me listening.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
All right, It's catchy, really brief.

Speaker 5 (01:21:36):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
I like it. Okay, cool, We're gonna move into.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
I love this. This is the most recent single for
the album. This came out I think two weeks ago
for the album Dropped. We're we're entering the last three
songs on the record, mccleas ready.

Speaker 15 (01:22:01):
Or are bl Waking Up under Places, Blue Blossom Days.

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
It's like a Sunday morning song.

Speaker 8 (01:22:08):
Please would hit Me back?

Speaker 15 (01:22:13):
No other bastic carvings or faces on a farthing one
profound my head from food into Black.

Speaker 8 (01:22:24):
And it feels like falling into the sea.

Speaker 15 (01:22:29):
It's beautiful from Mota Space and second.

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
Animating credits.

Speaker 22 (01:22:37):
Not Play Discord and days on.

Speaker 8 (01:22:43):
And so they love Thing by Holiday.

Speaker 15 (01:22:50):
On the river, run behind those of vices from the.

Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
Bed thing but feet there is the same.

Speaker 4 (01:23:04):
It feels like falling into the deep from somewhere away,
over the face so pretty.

Speaker 18 (01:23:16):
No day that I go out of by my moody
by side, felt wake.

Speaker 5 (01:23:29):
Up and.

Speaker 8 (01:23:32):
Nobody saw me.

Speaker 15 (01:23:34):
I'd been bagging for Really, when one is silence.

Speaker 8 (01:23:39):
Feels like get swiming to.

Speaker 10 (01:23:42):
Me, so me, I get sided myself when my but
it feels like.

Speaker 11 (01:23:56):
When the whever one's trying to.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
Cut is cold, beautiful song. You don't like Alton.

Speaker 6 (01:24:05):
He doesn't like anything, and that's why we're calling him
the Blue. Like you said, if it ain't re vacation,
it ain't good enough for him.

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
They ain't technical, it ain't fascin ain't challenging.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
Oh this is challenging.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
It's challenging. Yeah, this is very for the challenge.

Speaker 6 (01:24:21):
I mean maybe maybe if Dave sang on this song,
he might be interested in it, but I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
I don't see him have a very tiny Japanese woman
singing over this was the title tracks. When you said that,
I was.

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
Like, Rudy, what do you think of? No?

Speaker 3 (01:24:41):
Fuck it?

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
I love this song, man. I'm sorry, I really.

Speaker 3 (01:24:52):
Already's taking it back. Hold on, I'm not what what
what do you like about this song? Exactly?

Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
Like it's beautiful, It's beautiful, the piano is beautiful, It's
a well written song, the lyrics are great, the vocal
performance is amazing. Like, you shouldn't be asking me. I
should be asking you this because this appeals to like
all everything that I like about music. This appeal it's
just hits all the notes.

Speaker 3 (01:25:16):
Yeah, and it definitely sounds like an any credit to
a fucking anime dude? Yeah, I mean and usually by
that time I walk away like you know next?

Speaker 1 (01:25:25):
Yeah, So, like you gotta ask me that because I
have like my ten favorite genres. This hits all the
lists of like things I love about those genres and
even like on a musical point, well written song, well
written performance, interesting musicianship. I gotta ask you what you
don't like about this song? Mister? I'm open minded over here.
Here's this is the opposite.

Speaker 3 (01:25:42):
No, I feel like they there's just so many different
genres you can't you can't call them one specific genre.

Speaker 1 (01:25:48):
In this band exactly. I call them new metal really what? No,
they're not new metal?

Speaker 5 (01:25:53):
Fuck?

Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
No, I think what you've had this conversation. No, they're
not new metal. New metal is a very specific musicians
musical Yeah, this isn't this is not this is not
metal all. No, there's no new metal.

Speaker 3 (01:26:08):
I feel like I feel like this would be a
whole Wait. Actually, what new.

Speaker 1 (01:26:12):
Metal band doesn't sound like to you? Blow my mind
right now.

Speaker 6 (01:26:17):
No, no, it doesn't. It's its own thing. Do corn
and the Biscuits sound the same?

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
No, no, that's my they're both but they're both new metal.
But that's my argument. That's no my argument. You're using
my argument against me because my argument about new metal. No, no, no,
my argument about new metal is none of the new
metal bands sound anything alike Death Zones. It's like Corn
Court does. It's like my band doesn't sound like Cold Chamber.
None of them sound like each other at all. That's

(01:26:43):
why it's called new metal. It's alternative metal, because they
always sound different from each other.

Speaker 6 (01:26:46):
I'm like, but anyways, okay, who doesn't. But if they're
not new metal, who do they? Who does Sleep Tokens
sound like they? To me, they just sound like a
rock band, like just you know, in a very general
because rock music is very general in.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
The general aspect.

Speaker 6 (01:27:04):
Okay, I can see that, but I I feel it's
this is more metal than draw When it is metal,
it is, and it's not metal enough to be metal.
Now we're getting into the conversation we're gonna have at
the end of the episode.

Speaker 13 (01:27:17):
This is.

Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
Metal.

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
This, This to me is like me telling telling Alex.
Alex Revocation is a grunge man. That is the ridiculousness
of the comment that you just made. I don't think so,
because there's nothing new metal about this album.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
But you said that new metal is alternative metal, right, Yes,
what is alternative metal?

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
It's different ship, but this is different ship. Okay, okay, okay.
A big piece of new metal is the influence of
funk music. That is a huge part of new metal.
That is a Corn when when Corn did now we're
going on about Corn. When Corn designed new metal or
when they made new metal. A big piece of that

(01:28:03):
new metal had to do with funk. So the one
thread through all the bands of new metal is that
there's a strong funk influence, whether it came from funk
directly or they were influenced by a metal band that
had funk, specifically Mister Bungle. So there's nothing funk about
this album. There's no funk. And also to his new

(01:28:24):
metal is very straightforward. Four four shit all with the
exception of mud Vein when they do the word math
metal ship, and even mud Vein does four four ship predominantly.
Four four is the am I right or wrong? When
you ever hear a six eight new Metal song?

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
Yeah, four, I think this is its own thing, Like,
I think this should be its own genre.

Speaker 1 (01:28:46):
Like yeah, Like the comment you just made is something
I would expect from somebody wearing fucking socks with chung gloves.

Speaker 8 (01:28:51):
Hell yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
On a hot day. Yeah, I'm just saying I feel
like that's what it is to me. You're factually wrong.
That is factually wrong. That is factually wrong. Okay, you
know what, We're gonna move on.

Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
I don't think it's a rock album like rock like genre.
I think it's its own genre. Dude, I guess you
would definitely be its own thing.

Speaker 3 (01:29:13):
I mean, yeah, but Sleep it's literally sleep token.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
Sleep token. Just call it sleep token.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
Okay, we're gonna move. We're gonna move, We're gonna move forward.
Super we got two songs left. Look, you're wrong, I
want some software. I want you to tell Brandon what
you just said. Sleep Token's new metal.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
Hey Brandon, No, no, no, no, almost done. All right,
they're here.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
The next song on this record is uh, get gets
the Main Gets the Main Nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:29:49):
I thought you were saying you're gonna say that slip
out song gets in there, Jamatria.

Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
I wanted Jason know.

Speaker 21 (01:30:08):
AVTs a live without it the Eva Lord, it's cold
and now and no longer fear around? Do you live
and listens to me? That's the thing night sound the others?
You are my heloquent bride. How's your luck for love?

Speaker 5 (01:30:33):
Open?

Speaker 21 (01:30:35):
You never saw.

Speaker 22 (01:30:40):
Even sense to feel?

Speaker 7 (01:30:43):
Always you hear.

Speaker 21 (01:30:46):
But you try your best.

Speaker 4 (01:30:50):
Listen this is.

Speaker 5 (01:30:57):
You feel.

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
The ball flapping Polipia Pelipia moment.

Speaker 15 (01:31:11):
Yeah, I'll call him by the person and trying to
turn out that made.

Speaker 24 (01:31:19):
You for you someone to them by the first ball,
by against someone who wasn't always trying on the journey,
by some more field.

Speaker 21 (01:31:28):
The little to see the women as.

Speaker 1 (01:31:37):
We shall have a demo give Midwest song on him.

Speaker 22 (01:31:41):
Let's seeing that sound.

Speaker 1 (01:31:49):
Look at him, was looking at her.

Speaker 13 (01:31:53):
We were in the.

Speaker 2 (01:31:56):
Dude, I guess that what my man?

Speaker 5 (01:31:59):
Guess I.

Speaker 1 (01:32:13):
This in my opinion the most. I think the entire
album is very musically intelligent, but I think this is
the best as far as like on a music musical standpoint.
I love the Polifia Ship, and then that's where the

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guitars really come out and shine. They come out and
shine a lot more. It's like, oh no, don't forget,
we can do this too. I love the Midwest emo
kind of vibe that they throw out this song. It
reminds me a lot of like stuff I used to
listen to when I was like in middle school.

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
I'm all about that East Coast though, the.

Speaker 1 (01:32:49):
East Costino, the chemical romance four chords. That's challenging to you.
That's challenging, mother fucker. Oh that's just sick. We gouts

(01:33:13):
wrapping up episode at the minute. But yeah, you guys,
look man, I'm trying. This is something different than was
on the rest of the record.

Speaker 2 (01:33:21):
I mean, yeah, I mean this is definitely I love
the fucking guitars and and all that stuff. You know,
it's cool coolalities. Yeah, technicalities, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:33:33):
I like how we uh so. I feel like he
has two like there's two predominant styles of voice that
he uses. Yes, the very high pitched one that you
hear in the very beginning, and then the one that
you hear most of the time when he's like, you know,
like singing, rapping type of thing. The high pitch.

Speaker 2 (01:33:53):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (01:33:53):
I like his high pitch fucking like where he reaches
like I don't know, I'm drawn to that. Yeah, alright, okay,
And this song definitely gave me that more of a
like bring me the horizon fucking like, you know, type
of like sound dish.

Speaker 1 (01:34:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:34:10):
So I mean this one was, probably, like I said,
out of this album is probably the second song I liked.

Speaker 1 (01:34:14):
Okay, h I love the song. So that's just me. Yeah,
all right, so we're gonna go at this one. We
stopped trying to me and Bozi stopped giving the fun.

Speaker 3 (01:34:26):
We're just hey, I said, I said, I like this song.
What do you want?

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
It's okay, It's okay, look at me from MS. Okay,
It's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
Now we've got two songs on the record that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:34:37):
Would you like to take an infinite bath?

Speaker 2 (01:34:39):
The fun is that?

Speaker 1 (01:34:40):
Well, the next one is called infinite Bath. You want
to well, we love bath. We're bath boys, you guys,
fucking Pruney and ship I am I get puny every
night when I'm taking a bath to most of the
time when I'm in the b l D chat at nighttime,
I'm in bath prune when I'm going off and i'm
writing paragraphs.

Speaker 2 (01:34:57):
I'm in the bathtub, I'm getting pruney.

Speaker 1 (01:35:00):
Kim pruney. I'm away here wingling my toes on the sink.
Just just me me, I'm talking talking to ANX.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
That's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:35:08):
Hello, all right, So this one is Infinite Baths. So
I just want to put this out there. This is
my favorite track on the on the record outside of
Caramel like a non including singles, this is my favorite track.
I love this song. I'm gonna play the first part
and I'm gonna play like towards the end because they
end on a very high note that I want to highlight.
And since we're a metal podcast, we have to highlight

(01:35:30):
the metal. So this is infinite Baths. See Arthur Clown
walk into the room.

Speaker 8 (01:35:55):
You flogs me from the ground. Look as mindle went.

Speaker 15 (01:36:02):
Out way against the Cardo lying and a bird or
just one lion on the charge and Sup breaks on
the throntle Anlo now feeling the dimnify froze and sime

(01:36:25):
loose as a ghost and my nmases of the ocean,
the precipice of a pro shell. Well you allowed to
the dark, keep me motion, the ocean.

Speaker 25 (01:36:48):
Feels alex is starting as bats.

Speaker 3 (01:37:00):
Yeah I'm sold ems so.

Speaker 9 (01:37:06):
Yeah, a little bit of Welch's grape flavors.

Speaker 26 (01:37:18):
You don you go ask first into the bath boss
balls of course, of course, all right, here we go.

Speaker 3 (01:37:50):
In a minute. How far are we in dree?

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
Almost five almost five minutes?

Speaker 3 (01:37:55):
Five minutes.

Speaker 8 (01:37:59):
To get a little getting get.

Speaker 1 (01:38:01):
The build up going. Mind you, there was a heavy
chorus in there, so yeah, got like that ride. We're
waiting for it. Baby, there we go.

Speaker 7 (01:38:34):
Oh it was black metal vocals.

Speaker 25 (01:39:09):
Come on, that's Will heard you to him they fuck

(01:39:44):
you guys, Will heard you guys said fuck you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:39:48):
No, I'll I'll say they get some mo up sing
or up the scream.

Speaker 7 (01:39:52):
Oh who.

Speaker 1 (01:40:00):
And it just keeps going. That's how the albumns. It
fades out in like thirty seconds. It's a fade out,
slow slow fade out. That was infinite baths. So this
is like my second I would say, my second favorite song.

Speaker 2 (01:40:13):
I'm gonna go first. This is the first because you know,
like the metal parts when they came on previously, didn't
mean that automatically liked it. Right, This is probably like
the first metal section that I hear, like where it's
like that's pretty sick.

Speaker 1 (01:40:26):
Well, it's been three minutes of metal straight. Yeah, So
I mean the first five minutes is like pretty chill.
They have a heavy chorus in there, but it's predominantly chill,
and then something happens at the five minute mark where
it's like.

Speaker 13 (01:40:38):
All now breaks loose.

Speaker 1 (01:40:40):
It's like everybody who said we're not metal, they fucking
It's like almost like two different songs because it's the
first four minutes and then it's like the last three
minutes it's like almost kind of cut in between.

Speaker 2 (01:40:51):
Yeah, my favorites on the record. I love a song.

Speaker 1 (01:40:53):
You guys sell me fucking If you're not watching on YouTube,
maybe missed out.

Speaker 2 (01:40:57):
I was starting like yeah, off and took off his
fucking hat and let that hair wind mail. That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:41:05):
Thoughts on Infinite Baths.

Speaker 2 (01:41:07):
I already said my thoughts, gentlemen.

Speaker 1 (01:41:09):
What's up, dy dude?

Speaker 3 (01:41:11):
The fun that was his his vocals, I thought, I
thought I didn't even know that was him, I thought
that was like a completely like guess vocals type of ship.
So he actually screamed, really, it's cool.

Speaker 1 (01:41:23):
Like I liked it, he screamed earlier another songs like seconds.

Speaker 3 (01:41:27):
Like this one was actually for like a third of
the song at least, I mean, I get that, I
mean right besides this right now? Was there any other
more screams.

Speaker 1 (01:41:37):
Besides two of the parts, But they were more like
just like a couple of bars. This was just like
a straight up like almost like an entire song.

Speaker 3 (01:41:44):
Yeah, basically, so out of out of all the songs,
this is definitely the most heaviest, you know, towards the end.
That fucking build up though, Like I said, you you
gotta love for play to enjoy this ship because they
love doing that ship.

Speaker 2 (01:41:58):
Yeah, the build ups at least at.

Speaker 1 (01:42:01):
Least all right, so real quick, we'll do that in
a second. Actually, Okay, So that was the album. That's
all the songs, ending with with Infinite Baths just really
fast favorite song or highlight of the record, You guys
can choose one of two songs album. I'm gonna go
with Caramel and Infinite Baths. If someone's gonna check out
this album, I would tell them to check out versus

(01:42:23):
Caramel and if it's in baths, if you're if they're
not two into like like Rudy, like not too into
like the trap stuff and all that, those two songs
have more heavier parts that I think metal heads would
like more because they're not only heavy, they're fucking heavy,
Like they're not just like rock heavy, like it's fucking brutal.
So THO would be my my two baji mm hmm.

(01:42:46):
Caraen Out for sure.

Speaker 5 (01:42:47):
I think.

Speaker 6 (01:42:49):
For me, Caramel is like it has everything the like
it has like that song has the epitome of what
it is in the album.

Speaker 1 (01:42:58):
Yeah, So if like you hear Karen one you like it.

Speaker 6 (01:43:01):
You're gonna like, yeah, there's gonna be things there's you
know there, there'll be things you like about it. So
it's like, I think Camera is like the top for me.

Speaker 3 (01:43:09):
Cool Rudy Mine was. I think I might have been
tracked for it. It's called dangerous. Yeah, that one was
definitely the one that stood up for me the most.
And that one I feel like, I mean wasn't really
necessarily like very much.

Speaker 1 (01:43:24):
Metal in it, right, it was like very or something
like that, Like when they did an alternative, but.

Speaker 3 (01:43:28):
I liked that sound, that style, So that was my
favorite song of the album.

Speaker 2 (01:43:33):
Gotcha. The final track, the last four minutes of the
song specifically.

Speaker 1 (01:43:39):
Is because.

Speaker 3 (01:43:42):
God Damn d It's true though. That heavy.

Speaker 1 (01:43:45):
Okay, that was the heaviest part of the Next Vegas Trip,
New Role, No metal, We're gonna I need to try
and get you guys to listen to Different Ship. I
need to get you guys in Different Ship.

Speaker 3 (01:43:54):
Want to get you guys to listen to.

Speaker 1 (01:43:55):
Some heart No heart, cell doesn't count.

Speaker 3 (01:43:57):
How does that not count?

Speaker 1 (01:43:58):
That's like metal about for eating dude? Like, anyways, I.

Speaker 2 (01:44:03):
Got plenty of weird ship, so yeah, video games soundtracks.

Speaker 1 (01:44:09):
No video game soundtracks? Okay, okay, no no movie soundtracks.
That's fine. That's why I'm not gonna listen to movie
soundtracks and biggas anyways. Rating the album, I'm gonna give
it a eight out of ten for me, eight out
of ten. I love I love this album. It's probably
my favorite album of the year. That there are two

(01:44:31):
tracks that like, I don't know how they performed well
as far as like the musical concept of the album,
pass Off being the more R and B song and
gets to me. I think that's what it's called. Yeah,
you liked that song a lot, No, not gets to
a provider. Provider they provided. Those are the two that
kind of slow it down for me a lot more.
But I'm gonnaive it an out of ten. I absolutely

(01:44:52):
love this album, and to me, I don't know if
it's gonna be my favorite album of the year. I
know Carol was my favorite song of the year. I
have to live with this album a lot more. It's
not something that could just like White Chapel was, like
Holy shit, This album I have to live with because
there's so much going on. It's not just like brutal
all the way through, Like I have to live with it.
So that's just me rating baji fuck.

Speaker 6 (01:45:14):
I think I think about the same in eight, like
there were like there were there were you know, those
two songs that like it's not that they were bad,
it's just like for me, they kind of changed like
the formula bit. So I definitely give it like an eight.

(01:45:35):
It's still a good.

Speaker 2 (01:45:36):
Album, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:45:37):
Eight So eight eight dare I ask you guys, uh
do your points and everything ridiculous?

Speaker 2 (01:45:47):
Definitely doing This album is six out of ten. I
think there should be in like the top R and
B charts, not metal charts. And also yeah, I mean
all right, sorry, I'm out a character. Fuck, dude, I
think this movie, this movie, this music is going to

(01:46:08):
be loved and adored. Like I said, it's just right.

Speaker 1 (01:46:11):
The fucking thing. Be honest, your personal me personally, up
to your standards. It's like a three point eight.

Speaker 2 (01:46:23):
That's a good one. No, No, I can't say that
it's bad because I know that like it's not, So
I'll just.

Speaker 1 (01:46:33):
Go five out of ten, Like what if your honest rating.

Speaker 2 (01:46:38):
Five out of ten. Yeah, because there's barely any metal
in it, you know. So I'm gonna stand up for
you know, the metal heads out there, but yeah, you
gotta have a little bit more metal. They went away
from metal, you know, this time around and made like
just music for the normies, which is cool the normies.

Speaker 1 (01:46:57):
But this is this is definitely music for the normal
Let me show you, guys the comments not on the
sleep Token video. Man, you guys told me who the
fucking normals are. Because I'm getting par by metal heads
right now. Really, I'm by gate keepers metally. I keep
looking at the body because you know, but yeah, like
I'm all kinds of shit. So anyways, So so five,

(01:47:18):
I don't believe that. I think it's lower for you.
I don't believe I think five is you're just trying
to be nice.

Speaker 3 (01:47:23):
I think five is respectable because it really is. It's
not shitty music. Yeah, by means it's not shitty music.
It's my thing. It's not shitty music whatsoever. It's just,
you know, you have to have a specific type of
taste for this kind of shit, or I can really
open minded or something. But I don't feel like you
can come in and say this is fucking metal, dude.
It's not metal. It's a whole bunch of different stuff.

(01:47:45):
I wouldn't I wouldn't really know what to even call
sleep token. They're part I mean there's metal parts to it,
for sure, for sure, for sure, because I feel like
this happens a lot in like in eight M, like
trying dance music. They'll be like like a certain like
metal part with guitars and like like hard vocals and
stuff in the like a hard style song or a

(01:48:08):
hardcore song. But I can't call that metal. I wouldn't
call that metal.

Speaker 2 (01:48:13):
You know, that's fun.

Speaker 3 (01:48:15):
But my rating I mean, just be honest, like A seven,
I mean seven seven seven would beyond rudy what I'm
being honest?

Speaker 1 (01:48:26):
You like two songs on this record, dude, because it's.

Speaker 3 (01:48:28):
Like I said, it's it's well written and it actually
is really great music. But as a metal if I
was to rate as a metal album, it's like a
fucking winner two As a metal album, okay, but as
an album as a whole, they did a really great
fucking job seven. But I don't consider this metal.

Speaker 2 (01:48:46):
Yeah, all right, So, like if.

Speaker 3 (01:48:49):
I went to a fucking metal like like event and
this was like the main band, I wouldn't stay for them, dude,
I don't, damn shame ruining. And and the thing is,
I think I would love the show though, the way
they do everything, like the whole actual presence and stuff
that looks cool on DVD.

Speaker 2 (01:49:09):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:49:12):
All right, So really doesn't think it's metal. You know what,
I'm gonna agree with you. I don't think it's a
metal album. I don't feel like it's a metal album.
I think the metal parts are too short, and you
know what, that's fine. I think that it's a very
musical album, and I I love that the metal parts
are they're they're there, and when they are there, it's

(01:49:32):
fucking brutal. It's not like, oh, we're gonna throw like
ghost like ghosts. Yeah, we're gonna throw like old metal metal.
And it's like, this is a metal dude. This is
just rock music.

Speaker 25 (01:49:42):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:49:43):
It's actually heavy as shit and it's blended with like
very honest, very beautiful musical performances. And I don't think
but I'm not. I'm not a metal hit right, Like
I'm not a metal dude. I like music, I'm so.
I think that's where I differentiate from you guys a lot,
because if I like something, I'm not listening to for
it to be metal. I don't need the heaviest song
on that.

Speaker 2 (01:50:02):
Albue to metal all the time. Like then that's I've
always known that about you, Like you're like fifty to fifty,
Like it's always like rap or like metal. Yeah, yeah,
pretty much. I don't know. You and John are like
probably like the same in that boat.

Speaker 1 (01:50:20):
Well because I get bored because it's like, oh, like
all the songs sound the same, They're all the fucking same,
They're all played the same, all it's all the same.
It's the same approach, you know, it's like there's no
differentiatt yeah, okay, Like if I'm listening to a metal record,
like it's it's like Whitechapel, I love that record, like
I thought it was great. After like a week, i
had to stop listening to it because I'm like, Okay,
everything's fucking same. Like it's the same fucking thing during everything.

(01:50:41):
And that's fine when I'm in the mood for when
I'm in the mood for like, oh yeah, I do
a fucking white Chop. I'm in the mood for like
heavyst breakdowns and killer gut roles. But then there's other
times where I'm like, dude, I want to chill, Like
I'm on my way home and I'm like, I had
a lot rough day. I want to listen to sleep talking, yeah,
you know, or I'm not maybe I'm going through Like
I'm very emotional when I listen to music too, and
a lot of that depends on what I'm going to
listen to, Like I'm feeling sad, if I'm feeling angry,

(01:51:05):
if I'm feeling Whatever I'm listening to reflects the emotion
that I'm that I have at the moment, and even
like on a musical point, like when I feel inspired,
I listen to like machine Head, or I listen to
like Devil Driver, or I've listened to like, yeah, like
sleep Talpe. I'm listening to a lot of sleep toping
right now. I get inspired, and you know that I
want to listen like stuff like that, more challenging stuff.
So I don't know. I mean, you know, I get
where you guys come from. But when we when we

(01:51:27):
talk about like, oh, the heaviest song on the record
is like the best song on the record, I don't
That's not my criteria. My crider is like the best
written song on the record is the best song on
the record. It doesn't have to be heavy. But then again,
I'm also the host for a podcast called Metallogy, so
I have to appease that too. What's funny is with
this record the two heaviest songs the best songs on
the record. Yeah, So I think that I'm just being oxymoronic. Yeah,

(01:51:50):
so this is not a metal We can all agree
this is not a metal record.

Speaker 2 (01:51:53):
I wouldn't say that. It's like that's fine, yeah, because
it's like you're you're eighty percent. It's like you have
to like different stuff than metal. Sorry, and then the
twenty percent of fans like even at their concerts, I
wonder like they probably just have like thirty percent like
actual like people who are like familiar with metal, and

(01:52:14):
then the rest are like maybe not, you know, maybe
they come from different genre, which again which makes sleep
Token super fucking original genre wise, Like it's just it's
Sleep Token for now.

Speaker 1 (01:52:24):
It's like a corn show, like corn. There's metal dudes,
there's punk dudes, there's golf dudes or yeah, yeah, hot chicks.

Speaker 6 (01:52:29):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:52:29):
It's like and some of some of them are just normies,
like yeah, like just people, they're just there.

Speaker 2 (01:52:33):
Yeah, like it's just a lot of ormies.

Speaker 1 (01:52:35):
But but but can we acknowledge that this album is
going to be very good for the metal genre. I
think so, because it's gonna get a lot of people. Yeah,
this way drug, This is gonna be a great gateway
metal album.

Speaker 2 (01:52:47):
Yes, if you like the heavy parts, you're like, let
me check out Oh shit, Spaarbox so cool.

Speaker 1 (01:52:53):
Yeah, let me check out Vacation Vacation. Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:52:56):
So they're so good.

Speaker 1 (01:52:58):
However, all right, so all right, So so that was
our opinions on the record that a review is is
this album metal?

Speaker 10 (01:53:06):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:53:06):
Does it have to be?

Speaker 2 (01:53:07):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:53:08):
It has a I feel like it's going to have
a purpose in tho ZiT guys as far as like
being a gateway album for the fan base, and this
is going to bring people in and then they're going
to discover heavier shit.

Speaker 7 (01:53:17):
So that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:53:18):
That's it. We are all good.

Speaker 2 (01:53:19):
Holy shit. Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:53:21):
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(01:53:42):
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Speaker 2 (01:53:46):
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Speaker 1 (01:53:57):
All right, guys, that is it for this episode. What
are your opinions on the new slip token record. Let
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