Testament

In this episode of Metalology, the crew discuss one of the best and most influential bands to come out of the Thrash Metal scene, Testament. For once, Anthony doesn’t choose a butt rock band! In this episode, the crew discusses the history of the band, how they were introduced to Testament, and they give their thoughts on several Testament songs that span several eras of the bands growth. They also touch on the horror film Sinners and its soundtrack that features secret collabs with top tier hard rock/metal artists.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
What is up everybody?

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Today, we are taking it back to the heavy metal
Biblical tyrants, the actual, the not Exodus, the ones who
probably should have been in the Big Four in place
of Anthrax. Today we are talking about Testament here on Metalology.

(00:51):
Finally I've made this pick me.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
I decided on this band.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
We've been talking for or more about Testament. Yeah, the
fact that you were gonna do Testament, and to this
day I'm very surprised and I can't wait to hear.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
So for the first time, I'm not choosing a butt
rock band, not your first time ever, for the first
time ever. I want to address that RealD quick because
you guys give me a lot of shift for some
and I've gotten some ship from this from the listeners
I'm in. I'm the guy that's like winned views, we need,
we need hits. You I'm mister algorithm, So algorithm I
like that. If you're asking me, oh, are you gonna

(01:29):
choose between after the Burial Limbiscuit, I'm gonna be like,
I'll do Limbiscuits because I know you guys do the
more underground stuff. I'll do Metallica. I'll talk about shine Down,
you know, they're like, but I listened to a lot
of underground Heavy Ship and you guys don't give me
enough credit for that, and that makes me sad.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
I think we have a misconstrued, you know, just vision
of Tony, and I think that this year is gonna
be all about redemption.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
Why is it? Did I do anything wrong? I haven't
done anything wrong. I just bought the bucket rock band.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
You we still talked about Skeleton Whitch all right, we've
talked about children about him.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
I'll say this, the ship that you've been listening to
or like showing me and then also writing is surprising me.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
Well, you know, I'm a surprising person. I surprise everybody.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
So I'm gonna surprise everybody by doing something we don't
normally do here on the podcast. We're gonna go and
introduce ourselves. I am your host, Anthony spot us into
the ride of me as my co host.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
What's up? Guys? Metal Hondro in the house and in
front of me.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
What's up guys is Rudy and right next to me. Boy,
you gotta let him do it. You gotta let him
give you the introduction you deserve. Mister Moyst himself mis.

Speaker 5 (02:39):
Doctor d S. L.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
Baji, the heavyweight masturbator of the world, the doctor. No
you know doctor see me, the little Mexican character.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
This is doctor, doctor, doctor Seman.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
So I just want to say this up top before
we even continue. You guys, our Bandified the Terns, has
a new album out. I think sometimes soon our listeners
are gonna know why. We're just gonna start pushing the
album even more. But we have a new album out,
and it's awesome, and we we've heard it's awesome.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
People have said it's awesome.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
We've gotten some good positivity and not not that you know,
like I play music just to get it. But when
I get it, it's feels good, man, feels good.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
You know. Actually, in my car, I have a CD player,
like an actual CD player built in my car. Your
guys album is on review. It's the only album I have.
I played like when I drive.

Speaker 5 (03:32):
Now he can't change it because it's just it's the
only CD I own.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
Actually I have I have like a little like twenty
CD case. Yeah, like old albums.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
And stuff that is there your car the only method
of listening to CDs.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
Yeah yeah, well, I mean I could do it on
my Xbox.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
But me too.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
I do it in my car.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Though listening to CDs are becoming a thing of the past. Man,
what's going on? What's going on here? Guys?

Speaker 4 (03:58):
It's been it's been a thing. Yeah, I mean, I
love physical you know it's so, I hear you.

Speaker 6 (04:07):
Uh so?

Speaker 5 (04:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
So we have a new album out you guys, go
check that out.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
All the links to everything we talked about in this
episode and every other episode are associated in the link
tree link attachment to the description.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
Box of this episode.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
So, before we get started again, I always said, before
we get started, just kind of want to address something
because I think it's very important.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
It's very important to myself, to.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
My family, and I'm glad I got the the guys
are letting me.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Talk a little bit about it. We missed an episode
last week.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
You know, I think, like this year kind of we
want to come back to putting out more consistent content.
But we had to take a week off last week
because unfortunately, earlier last week we got news. My wife
and I got news that her cousin in law or
my cousin law, I'm sorry, my cousin law and her cousin,
Tiffany passed away. She had a brain aneurysm while in childbirth,

(04:56):
and it was very sad.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
It was a very tough, tough, tough week.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
We were basically the ones kind of like just helping
as much as we could with everybody driving people places
because people were flying in from other states and you know,
just kind of hosting them while they were here and
helping in whatever ways we could. But anyway, so it
was a really tough week. So that's how we skipped
an episode last week. You know, Luckily, the baby's okay. Miraculously,
the baby's fine, and she's gonna be in the care

(05:23):
of family. I'm not gonna try I'm not gonna give
too much information of that away, but we went ahead.
We started to go fundme for Originally it was for
Tiffany's cremation because that's what her sister chose. Her sister
is also the last living member of her immediate family.
She's already lost her older brother, Robert, who we talk
about a lot on the podcast. Ye he's the one

(05:43):
that got me in the kills which engage. So she's
already lost Robert, she's lost her mom, she's lost her dad,
and now her older sister. So she's the last remaining
of her like immediate family aside from the kids. So
the GoFundMe was started to help with the cremation and
to help with purchasing the earn for her so that
they could keep you know, the family together in.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
That way.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
And pretty much and then we've already reached the goal.
So she's already reached the goal of like what she
needs to get that done. Everything else after is just gravy.
So it's just to help with like you know, the crib,
the car seat, things like that, just like things that
she's gonna need, plus maybe like a boost on like
diapers before you know, she has to like you know,
struggle a little bit with that if she is gonna struggle,
so just to help out. It's just crazy to think about,

(06:26):
like just like one morning, like she woke up Saturday
morning and being like, oh, I'm gonna get ready for
my son's birthday party and this and that, and then
get the call and then Sunday night she all of
a sudden is in the care of a baby girl.
You know, It's just it was that quick. It was
within like a twenty four hour period. She's like, now
I'm you know, I'm gonna have to take care of
a little girl now, so we want to help out
the best way we can. So, uh, the gofund me
will continue for the next twenty five days after this

(06:47):
episode is released. So if you guys want to help
out with even ten bucks, even five bucks, like, whatever
you can help out with is gonna help out greatly.
The link is also in the description box of this episode.
So yeah, so that's that's that's it for that. That
was it was a rough week and you guys were
you know, you guys. I've vented a little bit in
the chats, so you guys know what's up. So so

(07:10):
moving moving on from that into into a little bit
of a lighter now. Saw Sinners recently, and I'm not
gonna lie. And the reason I bring up Sinners is
because Centers actually has a metal thread to it, and
I'll get to that in a second, but Sinners is,
like I've I've said this for a long time, Forgetting
Star Marshall has been my favorite movie since two thousand
and eight.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
This movie since two thousand and eight.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Like, it's been my all time favorite movie since I
your favorite movie Forgetting Star Marshall. My favorite movies are
normally moves like I I can like connect with on
an emotional level. And even though it's like it's a
raunchy comedy, like there's everything from like the nostalgic value to it.
I love the story, I love the acting, I love
everything about it, but there's also like a strong emotional

(07:54):
connection to it. Because what's funny is I saw that
movie when it was in theaters. It sat with my wife.
It was the last movie we ever saw together. And
then after we separated a few months later, I ended
up moving with my mom down down here in Chilla Vista,
and the movie came out in red Box, and I
like stole it from red Box, like I like rented
it and never returned it. And I was like, oh

(08:17):
you know, yeah, boy, I'm like, oh yeah, it was
like the last movie I sawd with Herman Watch. And
then when my wife and I like started dating, I
showed her the movie. And it's kind of weird because like,
if you have to, you have to see it. But
it's like when I first saw the movie, like it
was my ex wife, who was she She was like, Oh,
I think I'm Sarah Marshall. I'm like, no, you're the
other hero girl. No, I'm trying to like you know.

(08:39):
And then after we separated, I was like, oh, you're
definitely Stara Marshall and Jen is more than me lacuns
so and there's a lot of parallels with that story
that kind of I was kind of going through at
that time that I would get into like somewhere else.
But yeah, that's why the movie's been It's like it
hits all the bars for me. I know it's not
the greatest movie. I know, it's it's just my favorite.
I put that movie on and I could watch it.
Sarah Marshall, Forgetting Star Marshall, if I if you put

(08:59):
them on right now. At the first one with rush No,
that was yes, man, I love hi man.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
Yeah for a second for Marshall with chasing Chasing Amy, Yeah,
chasing big time.

Speaker 5 (09:13):
Yeah, I don't think.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah follow with lesbians guy, you dog dude. But we're
not talking about Forging Star Marshall and lesbians and chasing me.
We're talking about Sinners. So I after watching Sinners, like
I felt like a strong pull to the movie, like
on a artistic emotional connection, and I honestly think like
maybe after a few more watches, because I can't wait

(09:36):
to see it again. I want to go see it again.
It's probably I haven't felt like I haven't felt such
a pull to see a movie again since the Endgame
where End Game I was like, I gotta see this again.
I saw A few days later, I saw like five
or times in theaters. Yea, the first one, new one.

(10:00):
Also about that last movie for me, yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
Day five times of different people dedicated.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
But but Centers is probably be my favorite.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
You're gonna go back and see it again, Like I'm
obsessed with it right now, Like my TikTok algorithm is
all Centers.

Speaker 5 (10:15):
See.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
It's funny because I've been seeing you and Brandon talk
about it in group chat, but I've honestly been ignoring
it because I might see it with a friend, you know,
I don't want to, you know, yeahoil you know, spoil it.
So but yeah, you guys are like super on it,
like the whole week you and John two.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, it's it's very musical, but it's not a musical
like That's. It has musical pieces, but they fit with
the story. It's not like people just like break Out
and ran a musical number just.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
For the fuck of it, like Scrooge kind of a
little bit yeah, a little bit love Scrooge. Yeah, Like
there's there there's like three musical numbers in there, but
they happen in the story. It's not like it's like
it's like it's like walk the line. It's like saying, oh,
that's a musical yeah, but they're actually like performing in concert.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
It's not like they're like, yeah, people break out in
the dance.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Although the one dance number in this movie is fucking
badass and creepy at the same time. Like it's really
cool and you get you got to see it in theaters,
but there is a metal connection to Sinners, And I
think this is where like pretending Rudy doesn't want to
see it, well not just you, Baji, but I don't know.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
I haven't seen it, Okay.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
I mean I want to see, but I do feel
like it's it's something I normally wouldn't watch.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
For sure.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
Yeah, it's it's too much of a story implot and
ship like there is, but it moves, it doesn't it
doesn't really drag. It doesn't really drag. It moves at
a it's it's a slow burn, but it's not boring.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
That makes sense. It's getting it's getting compared to From
Destil Dawn because From Dustlvan is basically two movies. It's
the crime comedy, road trip thriller, right, and then it
switches the last thirty minutes of vampire movie. This movie,
you kind of forget it's a vampire movie until the
vampire show up. Like you're like, it's kind of in
the beginning, and then you kind of forget about it.
You're like, you're more invested in the actual story of

(11:58):
like these two brothers who are trying to by this
nightclub and turn it into like this thing for the community.
And it's a really really interesting, cool story, and you
love you followed with all the characters. All the characters
are fun. Corn Bread is my favorite character. I love
corn corn Bread, corn Bread. But so I think you
would like it. I think I don't think it's gonna

(12:18):
be like the greatest movie in the world to you.
I think you would enjoy it because the vampire stuff
is actually pretty cool. Other than that, I'm not sure,
but it's very musical in blues music. It has a
strong connection to that because that's pretty much the emphasis
of the stories.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
Blues music.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
There is a number in the movie called I T
which I think is gonna win all the awards. Is
here where the song and the scene is basically just
a history of blues music and how it's kind of
it's influenced modern music, everything from hip hop, R and B,
metal rock like funk, all that, and it's all in
one song and the way the scene is constructed, it's
really really cool. But there's a really there's a really

(12:54):
cool metal connection to it. Ryan Coogler, the director who's
done Black Panther, creed those movies, so he wrote this
movie as an original story, and he said the biggest
influence on him for the movie was Metallica's One, and
they were like, can you emphasize and he says, well,
it kind of starts off as like this very beautiful,
kind of serenading kind of piece, and then it builds

(13:15):
like this like giant, ugly, like metal masterpiece, and Sinners
kind of plays that where it starts off as like this,
like oh, this would be like an Oscar winning drama,
and it just kind of builds in like this like WHOA. Now,
all of a sudden there's like blood and guts and
people getting torn open and shit. So it kind of
starts off as like that like best picture drama of
the year, where you're like, oh, this is kind of

(13:35):
boring and just it's a gradual build up to darkness,
you know, imprisoning May which is really cool because he's
been very vocal about that too, and he's not like
a metal guy or anything. He's just like, yeah, Metallica's
one influenced the structure of the story. What's also cool
about this movie. I notice it at first when I
cause I listened to the song soundtrack. There's two soundtracks,

(13:55):
there's one with the scorel one with the songs, and
I noticed that Jerry can Troll from Allison Chains sings
on a song called It in Moonlight and it's super
creepy and it's fucking awesome, and it sounds like Alice
in Chains, Like it does not sound like just Jerry
Cantrell featuring. It's very Alison chainsy kind of song. So
you guys definitely have to check that out. And then

(14:17):
also I noticed this during the movie when that song
is playing. I don't know why, it kind of clicked
in my head. It's like during this like vampires thing,
the scene going on and I'm hearing the drums and
I'm like, sounds like Metallica.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
That sounds like the beginning to enter.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Sam Man, like like the fucking toms and everything, and
like the accents, you know, like kind of like the
offbeat accents it's happening.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
And I'm like, that sounds like Lars.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
And earlier this week, you know, I was listening to
this to the score and it pulls up. The song
is called Barry, Barry Your Guitar featuring Lars, and it's
the song that plays during that scene. I'm like, holy shit,
So Jerry Kentrell and Lars are actually on the soundtrack
with all this other like hip hop and R and
B stuff that's happening, blues gospel stuff, and you have
fucking Lars and Jerry Cantrell on there. And I think

(15:02):
it's so fucking cool because it's not like just random.
It kind of fits the vibe. Super super cool. I'll
play I'll play like a quick excerpt to and you
guys can tell me, like what you guys think. This
is the one with Lars. It's called Barry Guitar. It's
the score version of the Jerry Cantrell song or Berry
that guitar. Yeah, it sounds like samn, it sounds like large,

(15:42):
so it's just like a cool piece. But it plays
during the one of the fight scenes, so I'm like,
that's yeah, that's Lars.

Speaker 5 (15:52):
That's like, you guys are gonna have to go with
Lars on this one.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
James too busy acting, dude.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
And then the very cantroll one in Moonlight that's Alison
Hayes right.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Third very in Life.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
Day, So I'm gonna.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
That's smarts.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
So anyways, Yeah, I've listened to the soundtrack for two weeks.
In fact, getting ready for this episode, I had to
like pull myself back in. Okay, I'm gonna listen to
some metal again because I've listened to like the Center
soundtrack like oh like the last two weeks, Like it's
been the only thing I've been playing. So I'm obsessed
with this fucking movie, Like I'm super obsessed with that.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah, I need to watch it.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
I've been listening to like all the podcasts with the
director and Michael B. Jordan, watching all the videos on
YouTube like anything that like is Sinners. I've been like
just like, let me.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Watching hot Ones featuring all the cast men.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Watching hot one. I don't watch that. I don't watch
that ship.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
Don't watch hot Ones.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
No, not too much, dude, that ship it's like trash
TV to me. It's like it's like a reality to you.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
Can you imagine yourself answering those questions with that fucking
amount of hot sauce inside your mouth?

Speaker 1 (17:26):
That's why it's it's fucking no, it's it's.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
Yeah, dude, I feel like it gets you very vulnerable,
like it's fucked. I'll definitely check it out.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
But yeah, so like anything sinners, So I actually want
to get the poster from my living room and just
like and then making a plan over the like like
Tom Hanks in the Terminal where he's like, I got
I'm trying to get my dad's for my dad's jazz picture.
He has like a forty jazz musicians. He's like he
has a picture and he wants to get all the
jazz musician musicians to sign it, and he's down to
the last one. Anyways, it's in the terminal. I'm like,

(17:59):
I'm I'm like Matty, I'm like, man, maybe I should
get the poster and like over like the next twenty years,
like anytime there's like a convention that go and get
like one of the cast members assigned the poster. They
make it like like a little goal for me. I'm
like going down the rabbit hole with this.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
I've seen those people. Man, they have those fucking those
marble heads. I got every cast member from Black.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Widow, Black Widow, But that movie suck, I'll say. Anyway,
So you guys go check out Centers, Rudy, give it
a shot. I think you would like it. It's it's still
very gothic, It's like southern goth It's really cool. Even
the cinematography is great. You've seen it, right, you haven't
seen it, Okay, so you should definitely see it because

(18:43):
it's very guitar oriented.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
I think you would appreciate it on a musical level.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
The guitar that's used in the movie is the same
guitar they used for the score, which is they don't
normally do that. So it's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Sick.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
You don't watch movies. You watch hen Tie.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
So I'm sure there's gonna be a Center's porn parody
come out at some point.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
That makes more sense. Just watch the porn parody first
and then watch the original. Here like, oh, this is
what they were going for. Yeah, so that's my untal centers.
Today we're talking about Testament. Today, we're talking about Testament.
When I wrote a Testament, what was your guys this
initial reaction, I was like, the Holy Testament, Holy a

(19:21):
new one, old one.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
No, no, I mean I thought this was going to
be Alex's episode. So I thought. I thought he was
going to give us the playlist and everything.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
I didn't have songs in mind, but I was like,
you know what, I want to hear what Tony like
because he from the little I've talked to you, you're
more like the old school and I've been more new
school Testament. Yeah, so you've been more New Testament, new
New Testament. And I'm a Jew, Yeah, the Jew. I'm

(19:52):
the white white Jesus version.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
All Right, So we're gonna go and get into I'm
gonna read a quick excerpt from the band's wikipedi page
Gibler listener's context as to who this band, the artists
that we're talking about. Testament is often credited as one
of the most popular influeni My bad that was It's
two big paragraphs.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
Anyways.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Testament is an American thrash metal band from Berkeley, California,
formed in nineteen eighty three under the name Legacy. The
band's current lineup consists of rhythm guitarist Eric Peterson, lead
vocalist Chuck Billy, lead guitarist Alex Skolnik, bassist Steve de Georgia,
and drummer Chris Dovas. I want to put this out there.
Alex Skolnik and Steve di Georgio are two of my

(20:32):
favorite musicians.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
Georgia is A.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Testament has experienced many lineup changes over the years, with
Peterson being the only remaining original member, though they have
since renetti with Skulnick, who left the band from ninety
two but rejoined in two thousand and five. Billy has
been a member of Testament since eighty six, where he
replaced original front man Steve zetro Zoza, who had left
to replace Paul Belloff in Exodus. Peterson and Billy are

(20:57):
the only members to appear on all Testaments to they albums.
The Best has released thirteen studio albums, one of which
is a collection of rerecorded songs, four live albums, five
compilation albums, thirteen singles, and three duties. They are estimated
to have sold over one point four million albums in
the United States since the beginning of the SoundScan era,
and over fourteen million copies worldwide as of twenty sixteen. Testament.

(21:19):
So we're gonna talk about how we were introduced Testament.
Introduction to the band. We're gonna start with a thought.

Speaker 5 (21:25):
Hmmm. I'll be honest, like I just heard, Like I
don't know exactly when, but I just know that everybody
around me would always talk about Testament, Exodus and bands
like that, and then you know, I just heard them
and I was like, you know what, They're pretty cool
little you know, I think I was hearing more of

(21:45):
the old old school stuff rather than you know, the
newer stuff. Yeah, but like from what I heard, I
liked it. I can't tell you like what song it
was or nothing, but from the stuff I heard I did,
I liked it. It was pretty good.

Speaker 4 (21:59):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Rudy.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
Sorry, I remember being introduced to Testament back in like
high school. I think it was actually Chris Ferguson who
showed me Testament.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Fuck that guy, that guy, really fuck that guy.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
I'll respect your story, but I heard that name the
first he was fuck chrisperus Fuck no.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Dang, is he still alive.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
I haven't talked.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
I probably overdosed him something.

Speaker 5 (22:28):
Did he do jokes?

Speaker 4 (22:29):
I don't fucking know. I know his homies dead fuck
him anyways, Damn.

Speaker 7 (22:32):
I mean, okay, well that's hard, that's hard Testament all right,
Well that's good. Then that's good he told me about Yeah,
but I.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
Mean it's not a band I really follow, like hardcore.
I listened to him here and there, but uh got
into him in high school. Okay, Okay, the thrash god himself,
he who remains the converter, converter converting me at least,
not really, because I've always been anyways gone.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
I've always been true metal head.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
I know, dude, I know you would have liked true
metal because you got to do him in two thousand
and one. Yeah, I've been ninety eight.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
This guy is showing me nineteen eighty something recordings of Testament.
I'm like, oh, okay, yeah, surprise didn't not be corrected. Yeah,
I'm looking at the releases and I'm like, fuck, I'm
on two thousand and eight and beyond that Testament Bang surprise, motherfucker, surprise, motherfucker.
So yeah, I obviously legacy band. Uh you've heard him,

(23:37):
but I really paid attention two thousand and eight when
Formation of Damnation came out. That album was like my
first intro to them, and I was like, dude, this
fucking like sharp razor edge fucking riffing and uh whoa, whoa.
I was like, that was my first woves that I liked.

(23:58):
But Chuck Billy makes everything sound fu So yeah, two
thousand and eight is probably when I really phoned in
on them and went on the got on the train.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
All right, all right, I've always kind of known about Testament.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Uh you know what good Metallica was one of the
first things I got into, so reading a lot of Metallica,
read about like the early Bay Area thrash, So that's
kind of how I heard of him.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Never really like checked him out.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
I know in high school we started myself in uh
well you weren't in the band, but I started a
second band where it was more like thrash oriented, and
the bass player Ryan Hawks at the time was like,
we should all like choose a song to cover so
we can like practice our skills a little more and
this and that. So we all picked like bands and
I know, like one dude, the drummer pick Dream Theater.

(24:44):
I think I picked fuck Metallica of course, and Ryan
picked into the Pit by Testament.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
So your boy knows how to play.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
Into the pit. I bet you never knew that them
chip motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
So when I talk a shit about thrash, just no,
I'm talking shit because I I was there, because he
plays that ship.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
I play that that ship, and I get just say
that ship. I play that ship.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
And then you know they've been on my playlist now
and then over the years.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
They're just kind of one of those, uh, one of
those artists from a genre that I don't really like
to actually really enjoy.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
You know. That's another layer to the crazy part like
John where it's like really throw shit, but then he
writes like the thrashiest riss I'm like, what how, what
the what?

Speaker 4 (25:29):
What what is going on?

Speaker 2 (25:30):
That's like saying I don't like hip hop, but then
you like have Tupac on your playlist, right, Like it's like,
I like Tupac. I don't listen to a lot of
rap though it's kind of like in the same kind
of like I don't like a lot of thrash. I
think it's redonean but and I'm talking ship, by the way,
because I got into metal in two thousand and one.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
But yeah, you know, but I enjoyed. I actually like
Alex Skulnick a lot.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
They are definitely a band that deserves to be in
the top of the Big five, Big six, whatever, dude,
because I also want to I know, I also want
to include like Exodus, because I think Exodus for me,
like is four. Take out Anthrax and then Testament. I
think five.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
I think you just take out Megadeth and put Testament
right because Testament has better song really over that Thrax.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
I'm not a big favorite fanom Anthrax.

Speaker 8 (26:19):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
That's why I like the John bush Arab Anthrax better.
Like That's what I listened to is the John Buscher.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
I can see that.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
See y'all didn't know. I knew what I was talking about.
I talked about the rash.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Music over yeah, and he knows about the Big four.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
I know about the Big four anyway.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
So yeah, so I went ahead and I carried the
playlist and I made this playlist specifically to annoy this
ship out of Alex, just to surprise him.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
Very surprised.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
But I hope you are. I hope you are.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
I'm ashamed of myself. You should be you should be
a bigger Testament fan over here, Bigger Testament. That's right,
and I go there you go, New Testament, Old Testament,
O G.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Testament, the Real the real Metal. You don't listen to
real metal. I listen to the Real Testament.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Yeah all right.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Anyways, so this is from the album The New The
New Order. This album came out, dude. It says the
remasters twenty four, which is what I chose for this.
But the original album came out in nineteen eight eight,
so the year I was born. Oh shit, they re
recorded that whole album, they remastered it, remastered it. Yeah,
so I'm you know, we're in twenty twenty five now,

(27:27):
so I picked the remaster.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
Sure.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
So the first I'm gonna play on the playlist is
The New Order. The title track of the album.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Aliens bro.

Speaker 9 (27:43):
Right, alright, alright, Chucky Chucky Baby, fucking eighties fucking reaver

(28:14):
back of Yah.

Speaker 5 (28:19):
There that group.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
We go, Chuck John Chuck, I love the Grid.

Speaker 10 (28:47):
Yeah, who row.

Speaker 6 (28:56):
The world a gentle time?

Speaker 4 (29:06):
That's the The New Order. I fucking love Chuck Billy.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
I love his great vocalists. He's probably like one of
the thrash like og thrash vocal is that stills like
killing it today.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
I think he's the template of what a thrash vocalist
should be because if you look like like James Henfield,
he has own style, mustand can't sing for shit. He
has his own style too, but he does, but he
can't sing for shit. But anyways, you know, and they
all kind of have their own selves. But most of
the thrash i've heard sounds more like chuck, like that's

(29:40):
more just like the basic like thrash metal vocalists. When
I hear like a municipal ways standard, the standard, like
this is the standard vocals for for thrash metal.

Speaker 11 (29:49):
You gotta have that grit, you gotta have a couple
of whales with you. Yeah, but you also have to.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Add more fucking scream to it, which he has been
doing lately a lot, which is like, holy shit, Like,
if you could do all those three things, you're fucking
true thrash vocals, You're ready to go.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
And I oh, I love the harmony. I love the harmonies.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
I chose New World the New Order because one of
the cover art is like awesome. I love like when
it's like very eerie, very alieny. It looks like a
cosmic being. I don't know much about like if this
was a concept album or not. I'm not that into it.
But when I hear like songs like Eerie Inhabitants, the
New Order shit like that, I'm putting like a cosmic

(30:40):
kind of visual story together.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
That's like some revocation out of one ship.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah, it's super cool. It's like, yeah, like first generation
of like what this would have been, Yeah, which is
really cool. I'm a big fan of al Skolnik. I
love that it's not just like straight thrashrups. There's like
harmonies and jazz influence, jazz influence, but the section kind
of is straightforward, which I think in Megadeth. The reason
like Megadeth is because the drums will often kind of

(31:07):
reflect what guitars are doing. They'll kind of go off yeah,
and I love that kind of shit, but I don't
like it when all the music is like that. I
like it when the rhythm section is holding holding it.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
Down so the guitars can kind of breathe, which is
why I love Metallica so much.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
Yeah, you know, I can see that's kind of where
I got.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
That's probably the most intellectual reason I can articulate as
to why I don't like thinking that.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah, I like testament. Yeah, because these guys are doing that,
like this riff. It's like, damn, you guys were already
fucking honing it in in eighty four and we're still
listening to variations of that like in twenty twenty five,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Thoughts on the New Order scene. Now we're going off
and I want to hear you guys. We'll go with
ce Subaji will have him take a break from touching
himself to let us, Yeah, what did he think of
the New Order?

Speaker 5 (31:55):
Pretty good song? Not yeah, I don't like it.

Speaker 6 (32:00):
I like it.

Speaker 5 (32:01):
Not something I don't know. It's like, like, not something
I would like go out of my way to listen to.
But if it popped up, you know, I'd listened to it.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
Okay, Okay, Rudy, I like it.

Speaker 10 (32:15):
Dude.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
I this morning, actually this was the ship I was.
I was listening to this playlist while I was cleaning
the house because I know we had to be here
early today. This is actually early recording, so this, uh,
this shit got me going in the morning. Dude's cool. Waken, bake,
played this ship. Dude started cleaning.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Fucking it just takes a hit.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
Whoa, I don't know bongloads dude. Well, I was up
at four in the morning, dude, four in the moment.
I woke up at four. Why'd you woke up at four?
I went to bed really early. Lesson, dude. I got
off of work and straight to bed, dude, damn old bro.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
See like, you guys lived the life of like the
I kind of I don't dream about, but I kind
of think about.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
I love my life.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
But I'm like, you know, cause I gotta wake I
gotta go to bed by midnight. I have to wake up,
and it's like routine, like this is what I have
to do because I'm a family. But you guys like
over here, Yeah, man, I got home from work and
went right to bed. Like I can't do that, Like
I can't. I can't come home and go right to sleep.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
I get disappointed in myself when I do that, even
though my body is trying to tell me something.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
But I feel like, no, I wanted to put in
a couple of hours in this see yeah, no, last
night I wanted a game, you know, But dude, I
started gaming. I dozed off within like twenty minutes. I
was like, no, dude, she's going to bed. Yeah, because
I gotta be up. I wanted to clean the house
before I came and recorded today. And this kind of
shit is like perfect, dude, yeah, point and going fucking
burst of energy, you know it boost.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
So that was a New Order. And also you're gonna
notice what the playlist that Chuck's voice. Some singers their
voices don't mean they don't age as much like they
might go a little lower. Chuck's voice really ages, and
I think it ages like find and white, like it
gets better as and you.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Guys will know what I mean about that. This next
one is off of the album.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
I believe it's the same album, the New Order, but
this is actually the nineteen eighty eight version, so I
wanted the first to be the remaster and the second
song is the original. So yeah, so this is from
the original nineteen eighty eight mix. This is a song
I learned in high school. This is into the pill.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Oh ship, here at your plums and.

Speaker 10 (34:46):
At the record not.

Speaker 8 (35:02):
I feel like a man making.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Soul said, I don't know about.

Speaker 8 (35:30):
It, well, like a solo play nonsense but tasteful. Why

(35:56):
suck dick suck dick.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Sucked it.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Listen now, listen now, listen and listen to me.

Speaker 10 (36:05):
Now.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
If you are a.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Metal head and you don't like this song, then you
are not a metal head. So Baji, I want you
to do. I want you to bow to the new order,
the new or to grab the balls of the new order.
Let the dick hit you in the forehead. I bow
to know one, all right.

Speaker 5 (36:22):
Ah, let me hear you. Honestly, I like the song.
It's just I don't know. It's like.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
Production doesn't it doesn't get you hard, it doesn't. It doesn't.

Speaker 5 (36:34):
It doesn't do it for me. But it's like it's
a good song.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
Like you're not very much of a thresh guy, right, No, I.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Used to be, but like then I just kind of
got discovered shine Down.

Speaker 5 (36:47):
Yeah, I got discovered shined Down, and.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
I was like, yeah, no, I just hell yeah, brother,
hell yea brother.

Speaker 5 (36:53):
Got my moster ready to drink. Nah, But no, it's
it's still a good song. Like I appreciate Crash. It's
just I don't know, it's like I've heard it. I'm
over it.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
See It's like so like you like relevance.

Speaker 5 (37:06):
Yeah, relevant, But don't get me wrong, Like I love
like going back and hearing you know, like metallicals.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
Kill them All?

Speaker 5 (37:15):
I love Like that's trash, Like I love that is trash.
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
I like it that this is what like miles ahead of.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
That harder than kill them All a vibe though it's
I just I have like.

Speaker 5 (37:28):
My preference, that's the thing. It's just like this for
me just doesn't do it. So it's like it's like
thee like how you said, like this is like this
is like the template, the template. I'm just like it's
a good template, but I'm just it doesn't do it
for me.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
So this is like to me, like an old comic
that's just really good, like you could smell the pages
and you like that all the art work, like they
don't do like this no more.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
That's what this is to me. Like it's old, but
it's it's tasteful.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
It's like Jared Devil's Born Again the commic, Like I
still own that. Yeah, and like every time I open that,
I'm like god like or for the Preacher, Like it's
like from the nineties and it's like got the nineties
kind of sat all work. I'm like, oh, this is
such like a time capsule, but it's tasteful and it
doesn't seem like as nostalgic.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
So for me, that's what this is.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
It's like an old movie that, just like you, you
can still watch, Like Independence says, almost thirty years old,
I can still watch the funk out of that movie.

Speaker 12 (38:19):
No.

Speaker 5 (38:19):
Yeah, like I said, Like like I said earlier in
the in the first song, it's like if this song
were to pop up on like, you know, my playlist
or whatever, I still hear it. I think it's awesome.
It's just like I've heard it before. So it's just
like nothing too new or exciting to grab me.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
Okay, But like I said, I appreciated song. It's still
a good song, Okay. Rudy thoughts on this is my
favorite Testament song. You said they recorded this one right.

Speaker 5 (38:49):
No, it's remastered. This is not the remasterag this is
the original.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
They did the remastered one not too long ago, right
or last way. Yeah, that's why it might because I've
been hearing the song a lot lately, and it's actually
in my rotation right now, so sick. Oh yeah, what
about you? By what you I mean?

Speaker 3 (39:07):
This is pure unadulterated fucking East fucking what is it called?
Uh Bay Area? Fucking thrash Man and they them and Exodus,
you know they just even though they're from like the
same area, but like they still have distinct sounds and
and yeah, you're still hearing hearing this influence. I fucking

(39:29):
love this song. I've heard it maybe once or twice before,
like on the rotation, but it's like I never fucking
followed through on it. I never checked out the rest
of the album. So now it's like I have to
got it, got it, got it?

Speaker 2 (39:42):
All right, We're gonna move on to the next song.
The next one is called Practice What You Preach. This
is from the album also called Practice, Practice What You Preach,
or from a year later in nineteen eighty.

Speaker 4 (39:54):
Nine, The Bay m.

Speaker 12 (40:05):
Hm oh, come on, I love that ship.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Cool and did by the Tarts Been at Sun when
it's just spun guitar and drums. That's why I did
that end of this arm ah. I love that it

(41:17):
just moves, it does. It's like it's just cool. Like
it's just you're driving, you're on the freeway and you're
on your way to work and you put this on.
You're gonna get to work like two three minutes faster.
This ship makes me only on the speed. Yeah, it's
that fun. Those whales.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
I love the control.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
This reminds me of like Ride the Lightning era Metallica,
like it has that and it's all there, like it's
it's but this is like six years later aggressive, I
would say vocally, yeah, yeah, well, because Chuck can only
be like the one thing. I think James is a
little more versatile. Yeah, absolutely, Chuck knows how to do it,
like he knows how to down.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
Yeah, there's definitely a because it's a year different and sweet.
This album and the last two songs.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
The first album was eighty four right No.

Speaker 6 (42:05):
No.

Speaker 5 (42:05):
Eighty eight eighty eight No. The first album eighty eight
right eighties.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
I'll look it up, but I don't know, man, Like
I'm just hearing those songs and I'm like.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
What the fuck?

Speaker 5 (42:17):
First album is eighty seven eighty seven, and then this
one was eighty eighty nine, two years.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
So this is like a second generation thrash metal band.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
It was like late eighties.

Speaker 5 (42:27):
Yeah, but like vocals are like even in like those
two years, he improved a lot. I don't know I
just hear more. Maybe it's a recording it he just
sounds more powerful. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
I think it's the same. I think it's a record,
but I think it's just good. Yeah, you know the
better mix, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (42:46):
Probably better, Like I do appreciate that. It's like it's
just like it's it's getting better.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Yeah, rudy thoughts, just like the production thoughts on practice.

Speaker 4 (42:57):
I think it's all the production.

Speaker 5 (42:58):
The production.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
The production is very notice Yeah, with this one. In
the past ones, there's less reverb on the guitars. It's
more straightforward. I kind of like the older production more.
I don't know, it's more, you know, I do too.
It gives it that like authentic you know that's the eighties.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Yeah, yeah, but it doesn't sound like other thrash metal
records where it's like it's shit, Like it's like eighties
but it's shit. It's a good mix. It's like, dude,
like it's just it's a time capsule. But you can
still listen to them. When I heard the old mixes
in the car, I'm like, the low and still cuts
through like it's still there. It's not like just high
end like it's it's still full which is cool thoughts

(43:36):
on practice what you preach.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
It's fucking good ship. I'm just like asking about, like
what what you're this come out. It's like, man, these guys,
had they come out a lot earlier, they would have
been I think up there, you know, I think that
timing definitely was against them. I think Exodus Gary holt
to have said it where it's like, dude, like we
were just trying to race to like get that album

(44:01):
done to the finish track and Metallic that fucking beat
us like they did that shit in eighty four. Yeah,
So it's like I think it was just ill timing.
But these guys, these guys were fucking doing this shit already,
like pre days. It's just it was just a race, man,
And it kind of makes me think, like, fuck man,
Testament deserves so much more, although I feel nowadays are

(44:23):
I'm sure they're selling out, you know, shows and doing
you know, yeah, it's like they can ask.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
It's like you're like, you you wish they had more notoriety,
but then you see just how successful they are and
how many bands at their rage and this part of
the career are probably doing. They're doing better now than
they've ever have right, and it's been a consistent growth
of maybe like the last like twenty years, I want
to say, yeah, since Alex came back into the band.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
So that was practice what you preach.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
The next song, we're gonna change course a little bitcause
I'm going to show just a little something different. This
song is called Trail of Tears off of the band's
album Low Low, came out in ninety four. So by
this point history music history, thrash is dead, It's gone,
it sucks, It's terrible. David Stain came in and just
shot it in the head because he put out that
terrible what was it, rust in Peace?

Speaker 3 (45:12):
Terrible disgusting record in a different universe.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
Yes, I'm listening on this universe down the street.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
It just killed metal, just killed metal too, good man.
It just fucking took it down. That's what you know.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Charm show the three people that bought it.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
So I'm sorry, I'm reading not mill So Grune Grune
came out, Nirvana's big you know, Corn's first record come
outs and No New Metal is about to pop. So
this is a second gen thrash metal band in the
midst of like their main genre basically dying so I
thought this song was pretty interesting to show. This is
Trail of Tears, off the band's album Low from ninety four.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
Feeling Balady.

Speaker 4 (46:10):
Chibord of music.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Yeah, yeah, getting at all.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
I feel like you're like in the deserts, see the sun.
You're on a horse. Let you see that that chick
over there. But I got to make you my wife.

Speaker 5 (46:34):
You're a mind, Like I don't know why give you?
Like give me like pan terravibed like guitars because just
like straight up like pan Terra, Like, I'm.

Speaker 10 (46:50):
Like, what's up?

Speaker 3 (46:51):
I mean, pet Terra was the only successful finger.

Speaker 5 (47:04):
I'm really like, that's not bad.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
It's just like a cool crew. Yeah, you could tell
they were listening to Alison changed a lot.

Speaker 5 (47:23):
I'm about to say that dude had had a change,
just like.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
It's like a lot of harrowin going around.

Speaker 12 (47:38):
Taught me off.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
So that's pretty much like the majority of the song.
I'm gonna fast forward just a little bit. It's just
a heavier part. But yeah, so that was TrailO Tears.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
This is post skull Neck already, Yeah, because I believe
he left in like ninety two.

Speaker 4 (48:15):
So I picked that one because it's just a vibe.
It's a little different from what they did before.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
It's it's interesting because it's right in the it's right
in the middle of grunge at its peak, new metal
is about to pop. The guitar solos are pretty much
out out of trend, you know, and it's it's a
different environment, and it's kind of like their answer to that.
It's more grungy and it's more like I said, Alison Chainsy, Yeah,
and I think it's the band trying to do something
a little different.

Speaker 13 (48:38):
Now.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
The whole album is not like that. The wholebum is
a little heavier than that.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
But it's just a really cool song to kind of
just pinpoint yeah time in the band's legacy.

Speaker 4 (48:46):
Boji, what did you think of TrailO Tears?

Speaker 5 (48:48):
Exactly a good song. I enjoyed it a lot, like
I said, it just it gives me, like I said,
it gives me like Pantera vibe of like the guitar
tones and everything, and then plus with the vocals. Definitely
Alice in Chainsy, I mean like at that time, like you,
like you said, Thrash was pretty much dead, like it
was dying out. So I do appreciate like a good

(49:09):
song like that. Like it, just like it. You know,
they kind of kind of not not necessarily the whole
hot because I don't know the whole album, but like
that song specifically just sounds very very like they were
doing their own thing, still trying to maybe show a
little you know, Okay, you know, we're we're with the
times a little bit, but like still doing their own thing,

(49:29):
and I like that. I appreciate that. That's a good,
good thing to do.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
But I like it.

Speaker 5 (49:33):
It's a good song.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
Do you use a trail of tears to to? I mean,
I've heard lubricate yourself the trail.

Speaker 5 (49:41):
I mean sometimes I use tears.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
Fucking tears just dribbling on his cock. Wow, good song, good,
so good song.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Really do you like trouble tears? Not his trailer tears?
The song trilo tears.

Speaker 5 (50:06):
I wasn't.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
I wasn't a fan of the vocal style in this song.
What I'm not into that kind of You don't like
Elison Chains, No, not really, But I'll give you this.
I fucking love the guitar and I do that ship
that's so melodic, dude, love it, love it. Just the vocals,
the vocals. He's not really doing anything different. That's what

(50:27):
it sounds like to me, you know, very very monotone,
fucking I.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
Mean, yeah, it's not like great for sure. I think
it's like the other's done.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
Yeah, but I understand what they were doing, you know,
trying something completely for different. It's just this is not
this is not the Testament. I listened to what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
Can I use my time to my time to highlight
another song from the same album, No, Yes, yes, love Low,
the song Low.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
Dude, Like I'll play low.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
Oh that's not lot ship John Dove. Because this is
during the era of like you know, where you downloaded
stuff allegedly, and I remember checking out this whole album
and Low was the only thing that spoke to my
immature ass.

Speaker 4 (51:12):
Okay, this is low.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
So it's heavier than before, heavier the.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
Bar, but still in the ninety four the Bible, my partner, right.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
All right, So you you fucked up my surprise because
I was going to say shouldered the heavier stuff and
you should be okay, So.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
I thought you guys would like that one more, which
is why I didn't choose it.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
No, I'm glad I'm going with the story.

Speaker 5 (51:59):
Here, Like where did they record this because it sounds
like very like like the guitar are like very like
pan Terra, Like did they record the studio or something?

Speaker 4 (52:10):
For some reason, dude, I was gonna say that last
song right now kind of reminded me of Satan Anger
for some reason the album I don't know what what did,
but the drums maybe I don't know.

Speaker 5 (52:19):
Low just well I was like straight pan Terra. I
was like, Bro, the guitar sound exactly. Yeah to hear that,
Like so, I'm just like, did they record in the
same studio?

Speaker 3 (52:27):
But just to go just to elaborate more more from
like the whole ninety four and you know, a thrashband
trying to survive the era and then the influences that
it's grabbing in order to stay relevant. Like I think
Low and the song that Tony played are just like
prime examples of that.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Yeah, Like like so that they definitely embraced more the
death metal what was going on death metal all the time,
like the lower stuff, but at the same time, like, well,
we need a radio rock single or something, so we're
gonna go alson Change because that kind of makes more
sense with our style than like, you know, maybe like
a Nirvana or some shit. So this next one is
off the album Demonic from ninety seven. This is called Juwan.

(53:04):
I mean j Juwan like the Grudge h Junjon. And
so this is when the band is this is this
is the album where like, yeah, load like they got heavier.
This is the album where they're like, oh yeah, they
definitely went more this direction.

Speaker 4 (53:18):
Okay, so this is junging.

Speaker 13 (53:28):
Oh wait until you guys hear chuck. Oh boy, chuck,
oh boy, cut big take chuck.

Speaker 4 (53:49):
Yeah, that's fucking cool.

Speaker 6 (54:00):
Say my albums. I'm gonna say that in.

Speaker 8 (54:25):
Death metal.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
Was done done.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
I like that real good.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
So this is a straight up death metal album I
like as far as like what Testament would consider that.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
Yeah, but I mean it's all there, but it has.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
This like kind of like Crease lipnot energy to it.
What year was the album?

Speaker 4 (54:52):
It was ninety seven?

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Really yeah, So this is when they're like, yeah, so
our last album didn't sell for ship, and we tried
to go a little heavier and we try to do
the Alice and change thing. You know, fuck it, let's
just go all the way. Let's we're all in on
this death metal ship and we're gonna do that. We
don't care if it sells. That's what this album was.
And this album kind of re energized their career a

(55:15):
little bit. The next one definitely pulled them back up
into like the metal underground Elaite, but this was the
sign of like, oh, something's changing with the band.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
Bojie thoughts on Dungeon.

Speaker 5 (55:27):
I fucking like it a lot, like I don't know,
maybe maybe maybe more cause like I guess now, currently
I'm just more into like the more you know, deaf stuff,
more tech def death metal.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
So it's like, oh, you're crossing over to his side
now kind of yeah, I got your baby, gotcha.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
It's fake.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
He just got into this world. He didn't get in
this in eighty nine, and.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
I need to show you. I don't know what.

Speaker 5 (55:54):
But it's like I like, I don't know, like hearing
this now, like I do appreciate a bit more, like
there's more stuff I like about it.

Speaker 6 (56:02):
Then.

Speaker 5 (56:03):
I'm just like before I would have been like it
just sounds fucking like you know, yeah, it sounds like
trash or garbage, but I'm like, I appreciate that more
and it's just I like that it's not trash. It's trash,
but I know it's I like the song. It's a
fucking I think often go hear this album attle bit more,

(56:26):
But yeah, I do like.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
What I hear, very good, cuck cool, rudy. I don't
think I heard this album dude, So like it's like
new music to me right now. You know, I'm not
sure how I feel about it.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Like I'm like, this doesn't sound like them, like Thresh
does stretch your death metal balls a little bit doesn't.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
It's like new territory.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
So I don't know.

Speaker 4 (56:45):
I don't know how to take it. I don't hate it,
that's for sure.

Speaker 5 (56:47):
I don't hate it.

Speaker 4 (56:48):
But I'm like, oh, that's them, dude, Like I've never
heard this album, got it, so I'm interested.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
Cuckoo honey, honey, how you feel what you feeling? Yeah,
this took me by surprise. I'm not familiar with this
album at all. And yeah, it's just they're pulling in
from like the different different areas.

Speaker 9 (57:10):
You know.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
It's just interesting to see like the grunge era, like
fucking go upward and then while and down in the
pits of fucking hell, like death metal was like brewing
like stronger than ever in like in the nineties, and
then bands like Testament and you know, we're actually like
I don't know, man, I'm still tripping out, like Chuck
Billy fucking screaming and shit, you know what I mean?

(57:32):
That is still trips me out because other legacy legacy bands,
once they know their strengths, they stay with their strengths.
But not Chuck, you know what I mean. It's like, no,
I'm a fucking I'm gonna scream, you know. So yeah,
I imagine like fucking Hetfield like trying to like do
screaming or like, you know what I mean, Like, I
don't know, man, It just I commend that a lot,

(57:53):
you know, because you're not limiting yourself, and this band
is has it. As a fan, it might be frustrating.
I know it was frustrating for me as a young
kid where it's like, well.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
What did change your show?

Speaker 3 (58:03):
And I'm done with him this album post this album, right,
But then this it's like, dude, fans, y'all are lucky. Dude,
you have shit to eat, you know what I mean? Oh,
I got this era. I got this era. If I'm
feeling in a certain mood, I got this era. So
I don't know, just little mind ramble but good shit. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
So yeah, I've always liked this album. It's not one
of my favorites. Like I remember like hearing it for
the first time and being like, that's a Testament.

Speaker 4 (58:31):
What the fuck? I think ran Redhawk show that showed
me this album. Wasn't too big of a fan of
the album because I'm not big on death metal, but
this song was definitely like a standout for me, Like
this was like, oh, this is cool. The next song
we're gonna get into.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
Uh So I make a big deal about this song
because this is if I was to do a list
of like my ten favorite metal songs of all time,
this is on the list, and this is probably like
maybe six, six or five. Every time I play this song,
I get fucking pumped. I played this song around our
way to Universal Horror Nights.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
Yeah, you know, I was, and you were like you
like Testament. I was like, suck my dick, suck my dick.
I like Testament.

Speaker 10 (59:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
It blew me away because it was. And then I
listened to that recently I was like, fu, so it's
still good.

Speaker 4 (59:16):
It's not disturbed.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
This is this is my favorite Chuck Billy performance. I
think Chuck sounds very unique on this song. I think
he sounds great. He sounds like an older Chuck but
like refined. I love the lyrics. I love everything about
the song, and the guitar playing is very similar. Like
when I write more thrasher ship, this is more my style.
So this song is called Down for Life, and this
is off of the band's nineteen ninety nine album The Gathering.

Speaker 13 (59:54):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
I love his melodies.

Speaker 12 (01:00:08):
Come on.

Speaker 8 (01:00:18):
Like Slipnog, come.

Speaker 10 (01:00:25):
On, knock fo Slim and brand.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
I love how they find the and they find that
like hooke melody and they just fucking keep going with
it three verses. I love that, like it's spilladic but
it's bad ass, fucking VI tar this. Yeah, this is
like ninety I don't want to say ninety nine and whatever,
because Chuck hasn't really changed all that much since, Like

(01:01:19):
his voice got a little lower, but it's almost the same.
But I love his performance on the song. Like this
song pumps me the fuck up. It's it's the eighties testament,
but like kind of like uh reinvented. Yeah, Like it's
like it's kind of the same thing, but it's it's
it's tuned down. The vocals are a little lower, the
hooks are pushed all the way in the front. It's

(01:01:41):
old school Testament but brought to ninety nine as opposed
to like a throwback. It's like, no, we're doing the
same shit. We just too our guitars lower, made the
riffs a little beanner. We're not gonna go all death
metal and completely change our sound. Yeah, we're just gonna
do what we like doing. We're just gonna tune the
guitars lower. Chuck's gonna do some shit lower and we're good.
And I think it's fucking sick. And that's something like
double kicks.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Fuck me, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
I love the song U Boshie thoughts on Down for Life.

Speaker 5 (01:02:05):
It's okay. I like this song. I think this is
like my favorite song so far. Like the energy is there,
the vocal performance is there, like like like fucking the riffs,
the drums, like it's all there. It's like, yeah, it's
a very fast paced song, which I do enjoy. Yeah,
and fuck so like I think like like, I think

(01:02:26):
I'm starting to like like I don't know, i'd have
to hear like the more recent Testament, but I do
I am starting like this. Yeah, this Earlier Testament a
bit more than then. You know, I don't know if
i'd like the older or the newer Testament. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
What sucks is this would now be considered like early
Testament because this is like one of the first ten
years of the band, like because they they dropped them
for so many seven This is ninety nine, so it
was twelve years after the first album and it's been.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
Twenty six years since this album.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
That's crazy. So this is like considered early Testament now,
that's what's crazy about that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
I want to add just because having listened to like
post this album, because I feel like this is the
first time where they like, Okay, we've we found it.
We fucking figured it out, like for the New Era.
And I feel like then the rest of the albums
kind of branch op of this album.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Honestly, like we figure it out and then formula.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
Yeah, the formula, and then the next album is just
more mature, and then skull Nick comes back at some point.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
So yeah, I don't know, and then it just made
a jazzy again, but not this, No, this is just raw.
This is Arnold Swarzenegger. If he was a song give
these people air, so that that is it for my playlist.

(01:03:53):
Think Oh, Rudy, I'm sorry, but.

Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
Good song, good fucking song. The guitar work is crispy, dude,
love it crunchy, you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
Got anything to stand down for life?

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
Just it's fucking fucking heavy as fuck. I was listening
to it the other day. There's like two more tracks
that I'm like digging from there. I haven't finished the
album yet, but uh yeah, it's a good it's a
good album.

Speaker 5 (01:04:17):
Yeah, I would love what we should do. So this
is like early Testament with Tony. We should do later
Testament falls.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
Dude, you mean you, I mean ship dude. If you
all want to hear more about Testament, then we can
give you more in the future.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
Well, you like megadis, so you're you're a follower in
christ so that makes Unfortunately you're automatically Christian if you're a.

Speaker 4 (01:04:42):
Bi yeah Christian.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Dave, Yes, he is your.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
Prob.

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
It's in the future and it's my future.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
Okay, you will eventually become David Stayne and become a
Christian and they hate everybody and not want to play
with evil, talk about getting talk about getting kicked out
of the Tallaica forty years ago, and I have to wish,
have to.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
Get kicked out of something. Fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
They taught taunt me.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
That's all I do.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
They I would listen to the Testament and then Tony
kicked me.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
Out and someone else.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
By the Tyrants, And I'm like, the taught me just
because I wanted to take six months off. They didn't
say drained, No said the tyrants.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
Oh all right, So that is it for this playlist.
Thank you, Tony, You're very welcome for the old school Testament.
I will applaud this one because I'm just proud of you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
I like right or wrong here. I didn't make ups
for something.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
I'm just hey, just saying it's good.

Speaker 4 (01:05:59):
It's a good week. We're not talking about nickel Back
or something.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
I'm just kidding.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
God, there you go back to our root.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
I love Julian, but doing the back to back dad
rock bands was I was.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
Like that bad? Well yeah, well some people will only
know one of them.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Yeah, because Bajie fucked up.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
We don't have the nickel Back episode that oh that
was the one that didn't make it, one where he
didn't record Julian crazy dude. We did two hours of
our lives.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
And one of the one I was I was giving
away free comedy, like not charging. On that episode.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
He was funny, he was for once hilarious for once,
and I'm usually not and then you and then you
destroyed his spirits and he wasn't funny again.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
You destroyed my spirits.

Speaker 5 (01:06:43):
I'm sorry, No, you're okay.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
We made it up with the three D great episode.

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
He picked me up like Batman and fucking broke my
fucking back. Dude was already broken, sir, after I was
already broken.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
It reminds me we have to schedule for the Mayhem
episode with Julian.

Speaker 4 (01:06:56):
Because video Julian, that's gonna be fun to get.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Up for the nickelback one. Julian has been offered to
come on for two episodes, so schedule out them. But
we're not talking about we're talking about Testament. Do we
have a fallow appointment Testament. I'm just gonna start.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
Is They're a band that kind of like have coming
gone for me over the years, like where I'm they
come in waves. I'll listen to Testament for like a week,
and I'll listened to the Gammag for like another year
or two, and then it just that's just how it
kind of goes. So I'm still on board. I'm slimber
when they come to town. I'm not really interested in
seeing them live. I think now that they're older, maybe
I am. I kind of want to catch it before.
But yeah, I'm still on the train. I still like Testament.

(01:07:31):
I wouldn't say they're one of my favorite bands, even
though Down for Life is one of my favorite metal songs. Like,
I like Testiment a lot, so I like it, O,
I like it. I'm still on the train, Bajid.

Speaker 5 (01:07:43):
I mean, I don't know. It's like it's like one
of those bands. I was never really on the train,
but it's just one of them bands I just didn't
really care about as much. But I mean, like I said, okay,
I like them.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
Yeah, read you loud and clear.

Speaker 5 (01:07:57):
Brouh.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
Why are you being a little bit thrash heads?

Speaker 5 (01:08:04):
Crash heads?

Speaker 4 (01:08:05):
Did you follow off the Testament? I don't give a
I don't.

Speaker 12 (01:08:08):
I never gave up.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
There are no shine down I'll take.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
You that.

Speaker 5 (01:08:18):
Jesus. But I do like them, So, I mean, I
guess I'm I'm on the train.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
Would they make the NTI playlist?

Speaker 6 (01:08:27):
Like?

Speaker 4 (01:08:27):
Depending on you stop rubbing your goddamn belly buttons.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
My belly buttons up here, bro Okay, rubbing his lenses, cleaning.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
With your finger?

Speaker 5 (01:08:42):
Yeah, what what else? My dad? Don't just popping up?

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
Clicking, just clicking.

Speaker 4 (01:08:47):
That being what you usually remember for is completely up
to you, man. So nobody tell you what you candy
can do with your own god no, no, no, no,
no no.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
I draw the line there. It's not like you're telling
somebody what to do with their page. I'm telling you, like, no,
we gotta tell me help about your dick and.

Speaker 4 (01:09:05):
Rudy.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
Do you have a follow point with Testament?

Speaker 10 (01:09:07):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:09:08):
No, I wouldn't say I have a fall up point.
I wouldn't exactly say also that I ever got on
the train. But they're definitely a band that they come
up on my playlist, So I mean they're in rotation, gotcha?
But yeah, so cool.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
Uh obviously obviously I don't have a falloff. I will
say I accidentally have missed Brotherhood of the Snake. I
know that you were bumping. I was like, oh fuck,
I never I forgot to catch up on that ship.
But yeah, I never fell off. Dark Roots of Earth,
Formation of Damnation, all that shit like that's just for

(01:09:41):
the later episode. But yeah, never fell off. I just
need to fucking say it because it's just brewing in
my brain. But we're gonna be cool if we made
a episode where we talk about these bands that had
like this certain sound and the nineties happened, the grunge
and death metal era happened. Like what are these bands
do to survive and change their sound?

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
That'd be an interesting, a cool episode that would be.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
Various bands and just examples just across the board.

Speaker 11 (01:10:08):
Not exactly who did it the best, but just what
do these guys have to do they stay relevant to
get that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
Pay check, which you know as as you're working musician. Yeah,
they're working musician. I'm not going to hate on that.
You know, maybe young self, I did.

Speaker 4 (01:10:20):
You definitely did.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
I took it personal.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Sellouts, sellouts him for playing a radio rock song ballad.
He has a family and bills to pay. Fuck that guy,
guy just quit music, will be a carpenter, just like Jesus,
just like try for Uber.

Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
Yeah, I don't know, man, I think that would be
a good episode. So just it out, putting the energy out, Yeah,
good ship.

Speaker 5 (01:10:49):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
Album recommendations I recommend Eerie The New Order that I
Keep Your Inhabitants is the first song on there. So
I keep saying that the New Order and the Gathering,
I think that is a good glimpse in the two
different eras of the band, the early and then more
like the modern, the beginning of the modern version of
the band. So I would say those two albums, those
films are my favorites, and uh, yeah, do you have

(01:11:13):
any album recommendations?

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
I want to go. Maybe not a lot of people
would choose this one, but Formation of Damnation, which is
two thousand and eight. I thought it was just stockade
full of like awesome riffs and just aggressive vocals, and yeah,
I would say, check that out. I don't know, it's
good ship.

Speaker 4 (01:11:35):
Sweet Rudy, I would say, the New Order, Sweet, that's
the vinyl. I want to get this New Order. I
love vinyl.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
Version of that cover is fucking sick.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
Uh Bozzi do you have? I don't know, You're not
very inclined, but.

Speaker 5 (01:11:50):
No, I like the fuck the It would be the
fourth song you played.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
I believe nineteen ninety seven. Do you mind of album? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:11:59):
No, that you like the first time I played was
Trail of Tears, the Allison Chainsy one, the one after that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Okay, yeah that was all Demonic I Low. Yeah yeah,
wait Demonic Demonic Yeah, Demonicnic.

Speaker 5 (01:12:10):
Yeah, that that one. I fucking I would recommend that
album sounds good to me.

Speaker 4 (01:12:15):
Got it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
That's the first time we've had like different albums from
each other. Usually like we're on the same page. I
think the New Order kind of on the same page.
But yeah, you chose, well, he chose Demonic and you
chose what was it?

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
Well, I chose an album that's not even on your list.
Oh yeah, well no, but I would agree like the
Gathering and fucking Demonic, like even Low, Like I liked Low,
but you know, I wasn't ready for the Ballady stuff,
you know. Yeah, but I don't know. Man, They're They're
worth a checkout.

Speaker 4 (01:12:43):
They are.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
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Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
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for tuning in and We'll catch you on the next
episode of Metalnology.

Speaker 10 (01:14:08):
Hmm.