Talkline | August 8, 2025

Newly appointed WV Supreme Court Justice Thomas Ewing joins the show. Charleston Police Chief Scott Dempsey details a deadly incident at the CAMC Emergency Room. Also, Howard Monroe, host on WVLY Radio, discusses town halls and Bernie Sanders coming to WV. Chris Stirewalt stops by and STEAM RELEASE. 

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thirty three. A couple of minutes from now, Jeff Jenkins
will join us from the Metro News newsroom. We are
following the story from overnight. One person is dead after

(01:48):
an officer involved shooting in the emergency room at Charleston
Area Medical Center General Hospital that happened early this morning.
Disturbance call was made to nine to one one about
one forty In fact, Charleston Police are having a news
conference this hour. We'll get the latest coming up with Jeff. Also,
we're hoping to hear from Charleston Police Chief Scott Dempsey

(02:10):
as the show continues this morning. With all of that,
say good morning to TJ Meadows. TJ, good morning, Good
morning Dave. Very terrible news. Sorry to wake up and
read about that this morning. That's a location there, that corner.
There have been issues there before, so it'll be interesting
to see what we learned from this presser and how
things developed last night. But terrible news this morning to

(02:31):
wake up to for sure again. Chief Dempsey is holding
a news conference this hour. Jeff will join us a
few minutes from now with the latest. Earlier this week,
Governor Patrick Morrissey announced that Fayette County Circuit Court Judge
Thomas Ewing was being appointed to the state Supreme Court.
Ewing took office as a circuit judge of the fifteenth
Judicial Circuit, which covers Fayette County, back in January twenty nineteen,

(02:54):
appointed then by then Governor Jim Justice. He was elected
in twenty twenty reelected in twenty twenty four, and he
joins us on Metro News talk Line this morning. Judge Ewing,
good morning, Glad you could be here.

Speaker 6 (03:06):
Good morning, gentlemen. I appreciate the opportunity to speak with you.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
So when did you first develop an interest in being
a Supreme Court justice.

Speaker 6 (03:18):
Well, the times that I've been appointed as a special
assignment to the Supreme Court gave me a little bit
of opportunity to see behind the veil a little bit
and see the process and really start the idea the

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sort of desire to explore that as a possibility. I
think it's something that I've had in the back of
my mind, maybe when I started, even as a circuit judge,
but actually being a signed to the cases see how
it works. Being down there, being part of the discussion
where you're talking about what the law in West Virginia
should be and having influence on that. I found out

(04:00):
to be fascinating in something that I really knew that
I wanted to be a part of.

Speaker 7 (04:06):
Mister Justice, congratulations on your appointments or quite the achievement
you mentioned in your remarks the other day with the governor.
You talked about bringing a circuit judge's viewpoint to the
Supreme Court. Elaborate on that. What do you hope to
do there?

Speaker 6 (04:21):
Yeah, Well, when cases are brought to the Supreme Court,
the Supreme Court is essentially acting as a judge of judges.
I mean they're reviewing judges' decisions and things that circuit
judges have had to deal with. And I think there's
an insight and a viewpoint from a circuit judge. It's

(04:44):
a little bit different than someone who's experience is just
as a lawyer, just as a as a legislator, And
I think that having the circuit judge's viewpoint of how
was this, how is this handled in the heat of
the moment, how this handled on the fly, how does this?
How does this work in a trial? How does this

(05:05):
work in a you know, situation where the judge has
to make a heat of the moment decision. I think
it's very important to have someone who can kind of
talk about this is how this worked when I was
doing it. And you know, Justice Hutchinson when he was
on the on the court obviously brought, you know, a

(05:25):
vast experience as a circuit judge to to the role.
I don't have quite nearly as much experience, but I
believe I can bring the circuit judges perspective to those
discussions and debates during the case conferences.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Newly appointed State Supreme Court Justice Thomas Ewing joining us
here on Metro News talk line, what's your judicial philosophy
and how will that shape how you interpret state code?

Speaker 6 (05:50):
Well, I mean, on on the first level, I think
my job as as a judge is, or as a
justice and how I've handled it as a judge is
it's my job to fairly apply apply the rules, to
not try to make the rules what I want them
to be, but to uh, you know, use judicial restraint

(06:11):
in and and and be consistent in how I view things,
very textual minded. What does the statute say, what does
the constitution say, what do the words mean? And and
not you not try to use my personal experience necessarily
or what I think the law should be, because that's

(06:31):
not the role of a judge or justice. And so,
you know, judicial restraint, judicial independence, I think, and and
being a strong advocate of, you know, upholding separation of powers,
that kind of goes with the restraint I think. But
you know, each each branch has its own constitutional role,

(06:53):
and it's important that the court not step outside it's
its role and and do things it shouldn't shouldn't do
and the balance of power. So I think it's very
important for me that you know, I look at things
from that that perspective, and I tell I've till I've
handled cases as a judge, and I'll you know, continue
to do that as as a justice. The other thing

(07:15):
for me, you know, going to the court, I bring
a perspective. I think I'm gonna be the first one
that's had experience handling the problem solving courts, the treatment courts.
I'm pretty sure I'll be the first justice to who's
who's kind of grown up in that process. And obviously
it's important to me that those programs you know, are

(07:40):
are you know, continue to be valuable assets to the state.
And I don't know if you saw the press release today,
but you know, the states in danger of losing family
treatment courts and and that would be a very sad
day for the state of West Virginia. As someone who's
worked with the family treatment courts and been part of

(08:01):
that those programs and seeing the lives changed in those programs,
it would definitely be a sad result if those programs
are eliminated because of really at this point it's a
funding issue.

Speaker 7 (08:17):
I want to ask you about your interview with the governor.
Toughest job interview you've ever had. He met with I
think four finalists. I think it was talk about that personally, professionally, You're.

Speaker 6 (08:28):
So it was a very interesting process when I went
through in twenty eighteen with the Javak interview process, I
had to interview with the JAVAC. It was part of
the recommendations that went to Governor Justice and then didn't
really hear anything, and then it got news that I'd
been chosen. This was a much different process. A Governor Justice,

(08:50):
I mean didn't really interject himself into the interview process.
It was clear in this you know Supreme Court jay
Vac process that Governor Morrissey was very interested in having
a personal understanding of the candidates and to really tried

(09:12):
to get to know the candidates on a personal level.
It was definitely. I mean, Governor Justice. Governor Morrissey is
a lawyer. He knows and to be honest with you,
in some of these issues that he's concerned about, the
constitutional issues, he's he's thought about him, he knows what

(09:34):
he's what he would like for the the candidate to
have as a philosophy. He didn't ask any proper questions,
but he did, as he said on the interview that
a few weeks ago, he did ask appropriate and probing
questions and I will say, you know, probing questions in
order to try to get an idea of who who

(09:54):
I was. I appreciate how he handled it because I
think it gave me a chance to prove myself and
gave me a chance to demonstrate while why I thought, I,
you know, deserved the appointment. So I think the way
he handled it, well, you know, it took a little
bit longer than then I think maybe folks expected. It

(10:16):
demonstrated to me that he was serious about the decision
and that he took his role as the governor appointing
someone very seriously and he did. He did that job
very thoroughly.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Newly appointed Supreme Court Justice Thomas Ewing joining us here
on Metro News talk line. Who have been your major
legal influences throughout your career?

Speaker 6 (10:37):
That's interesting. That's something that the JAVAC asked and the
governor Governor Morrisey and during the interviews. My influences are
more on a personal, local level experience with the judges
that I grew up practicing in front of. My practice
was all over the states. I knew, you know, there
were certain ways to handle things that I didn't want

(10:59):
to do it that way here being in Faed County, obviously,
the judges in Faed County had a huge impact on me.
Judge kirk Patrick was always someone I saw as a
good example of uh the like demeanor and uh you
know how he interacted with people, you know, from the

(11:24):
the you know, looking at Supreme Court justices or Westernginia
Supreme Court justices that that that I have idolized or
or you know, viewed as a north star, so to speak.
I really had a trouble answering that question, to be
honest with you, during the uh the interview process because
I've never really looked at it that that that way,

(11:46):
and never really had had to think about things from
that perspective. So my my influences, to be honest with you,
are are the judges that have practiced in front of
the judges that I worked with in in Faed County,
and those are the folks that helped me as far
as developing a judicial philosophy and a judicial demeanor.

Speaker 7 (12:06):
So that's about the best way I can answer that
justice viewing. It seems generally not necessarily in West Virginia,
but it seems across the country that there is some
level of distrust in our judicial system. There's a question
of whether or not the rule of law still carries

(12:26):
the day versus political motivations, etc. What role can you
play in restoring people's confidence in our judicial system?

Speaker 6 (12:36):
Well, I mean, I think if you look back, that's
kind of what the Supreme Court has been doing since
the events of twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen, is trying
to restore public confidence in the state of West Virginia.
I said some very specific things in my speech during
the press conference designed to that I think that as

(12:59):
a judge or a justice in this instance, it's not
just the appearance of impartiality, or if it's not just
being impartial or being honest, it's the appearance. So the
way that the way that decisions are made, transparency, explaining
their reasoning. Obviously, how the justices and judges, you know,

(13:22):
since we're essentially personification of the law, to be honest
with you, how we handle ourselves in the public, how
we interact with the public in cases is critical. So
I think on some level, to be honest with you,
the idea of trust that the judiciary starts on the

(13:43):
county level and you know, the circuit level, with how
those judges handle themselves, how they interact with the public.
That's been something I've been very concerned about, you know,
in my time as a circuit judge, and I'll continue
to make that a priority as a as a justice.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Fair County Circuit Court judge for a little bit longer
and newly appointed State Supreme Court Justice Thomas Ewing, appreciate
you coming on. Best of luck till you look forward
to working with you here in the future.

Speaker 6 (14:09):
All right, thank you gentlemen for the opportunity, and appreciate
again the governor giving me a chance to serve West
Virginia in his.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Capacity absolutely newly appointed State Supreme Court Justice Thomas ewing Up. Next,
we'll talk to the police chief of Charleston get the
latest on that overnight incident at Charleston Area Medical Center.
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Speaker 1 (15:52):
Early this morning, a person was shot and killed in
an officer involved at shooting in the emergency room at
Charleston Area Medical Center at General Hospital. The call came
in around one forty this morning. Charleston Police chiefs Got
Dempsey just wrapped up a news conference. He joins us
on Metro News talk Line this morning. Chief, Good morning,
glad you can join us. What can you tell us

(16:13):
about what happened early this morning at CAMC.

Speaker 11 (16:17):
Well, good morning. I'm glad you asked me to join you.
I'm always always happy to help with you guys. Yeah,
So this morning, around midnight, a male had walked into
the emergency room at c AMC General and presumably was
wanting to be seen for some type of unknown injury.
And at some point he began acting pretty erratic and

(16:39):
yelling at other people that were in the waiting room
and including staff as well security staff, and at one
point he locked himself in a bathroom and when he
came out of the bathroom, he had a knife in
his hand and was threatening other people and at one
point spray a fire exchamuisher all throughout the waiting room.

(17:00):
And that's when about the time when our officers were
called through not one one, they quickly responded. Fortunately they
got there fast, and one officer got there just before
some of the other ones and was able to make
contact with the suspect where he was threatening another individual
with the knife, and unfortunately our officer had to use

(17:22):
deadly force. But I think with that deadly force, our
officer saved at least one life, we believe in countless
others possibly.

Speaker 10 (17:31):
With that deadly force.

Speaker 7 (17:32):
I assume the suspect had somewhat at night point and
was close to them where he could cause eminent danger
to the other person. Hence the shooting was really the
only method to defend that person.

Speaker 10 (17:43):
Would that be accurate?

Speaker 11 (17:45):
Yeah, sir, that's correct.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Do we know where he was able to obtain that
knife yet?

Speaker 11 (17:53):
No, sir, No, we do not know that information yet,
or there's some information I can't release, but but yeah,
we we had definitely confirmed he had a knife.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
What is protocol in this type of a situation where
you have a suspect in an emergency room, there are
people around.

Speaker 11 (18:15):
Well, our protocol obviously is to stop any kind of threat,
you know, especially when it comes to threatening other people's lives.
But you know, police officers have to make split second decisions.
It's not like you see on the TV. You know,
it's always split second decisions. It has to be well
thought out and deliberate, and obviously if there are other

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people around, we have to be cognizant of that as well.
So there's it was a chaotic scene. But fortunately our
officers are very well trained and they handle this situation perfectly.

Speaker 7 (18:51):
Is there anything you can say about the suspect, suspected
drug use, mental illness, anything that would have precipitated this?

Speaker 11 (18:59):
Unfortunately I can't say. That's still being investigated.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
We're talking to Charleston Police Chief Scott Dempsey about the
incident at CMAC early this morning. Was this a crowded
area of the waiting room?

Speaker 11 (19:12):
You know CMC generals always has you know, people always
in the waiting room, and it was it was a
particularly busy night for the for the er. So yes, sir,
there were people in the waiting room.

Speaker 7 (19:26):
Walk us through how long he was there before things
began to get a radical sense of the timeline. I'm
wondering how quickly things turned.

Speaker 11 (19:35):
Well from our records, he walked in about midnight and
maybe just a little after midnight this morning, and we
received the call write about one or when our officers
got there. It only took just a few seconds to
make contact with him, So there was a little bit
of a gap in time from when he initially came

(19:56):
in and when we contacted him. Uh, so he'd been
for probably a few hours.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Are you able to release the name of the suspect?

Speaker 11 (20:05):
No, is there not yet. We still investigating that.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Have you ever had to handle a call like this
in that type of a setting at a healthcare facility,
a hospital like that, You know.

Speaker 11 (20:16):
It's actually very rare. We've had a few incidents with
hospitals obviously, but something that this magnitude is unheard of,
especially around here. But fortunately our guys were able to
get there fast and keep everybody safe.

Speaker 7 (20:33):
Any information on when you think you will be able
to release any more details on next press briefing? When
can we expect further information?

Speaker 11 (20:41):
Well, the issue right now is that we are still
trying to contact the next to ken with the suspect,
so obviously we can't release the name at that point,
but I would imagine we'll get that pretty soon. So
you should hear from me whether it's just a release
or I don't know if that I'll do another conference,
but but we'll definitely do a release if we find.

Speaker 5 (21:02):
Out the name.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Charleston Police Chief Scott Dempsey on the incident last night
early this morning at Charleston Area Medical Center. Chief, we
appreciate the update, Thank you very much and give our
best to all the officers.

Speaker 11 (21:13):
Thank you, Yes, sir, I appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
You can read more this morning. We'll have the latest
post it for you over at the website. Go to
wvmetronews dot com. Coming up, we'll talk to Howard Monroe.
Bernie Sanders is coming to West Virginia later today. We'll
talk to Howard about that. He's going to be in
his hometown. Will Howard be there, question Mark, we'll talk
about that. Get your text in as well, Star Walt.
At the top of the hour, This is talk Line

(21:38):
on Metro News. Metro News is the voice of West Virginia.
It is ten thirty times. To get a news update,
Let's check in with the Metro News radio network find
out what's happening all across the great state of West Virginia.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
West Virginia Metro News. I'm Jeff Jenkins. Charleston police say
there was a thread inside the emergency room at Charleston
Area Medical Center in downtown Charleston. This morning. At the
General Hospital, a person was shot and killed by city police.
No officers were injured. The very latest now at wv
metronews dot com. There's a lawsuit in federal court in

(22:16):
connection with the alleged sexual assault of a female inmate
by now fired Knnaw County Shar's deputy. The woman's attorney,
Jesse Forbes, says the civil lawsuit says that what cast
Close did to the woman while in custody is unspeakable.

Speaker 5 (22:29):
This isn't some isolated event, This isn't a one time occurrence.
This is hours and hours of something that, through these allegations,
could be equated.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
To torture, closest charge and being held in the Southwestern
Regional Jail. The board that oversees public charter schools in
West Virginia says it's going to follow the state's religious
freedom law and Governor Patrick Morrisey's executive order when it
comes to allowing religious exemptions to the state's mandatory school
entry vaccination laws. The charter Board made the move Thursday
after hearing from the Governor's attorney, Sean Whalan.

Speaker 12 (22:58):
But the governor is looking for partnership in this area
and support and applying the Equal Protection for Religion Act
that's been on the books, frankly since twenty twenty three
and wasn't really enforced.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
The State Board of Education at overseas public Schools isn't
following the executive order in that fight continues. You're listening
to Metro News, the Voice of West Virginia.

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(24:41):
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Speaker 1 (25:11):
Text line three oh four talk three four eight hundred
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will join us coming up top of the hour. Get
your steams ready, Steam Release coming up one hour from
now later today, US Senator and former Democratic candidate for

(25:38):
President Bernie Sanders is going to be in West Virginia.
He'll be making three stops on his Fighting Oligarchy Where
We Go from here tour. One of those will be
in Wheeling, that is where Howard Monroe resides. Of course,
you can hear Howard prior to this show on WVLY,
host of The Watchdog Morning Show, Howard Monroe.

Speaker 5 (25:59):
Howard, good morning, Good morning, sir. I'm very excited getting
ready for a Bernie day.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Are you going to go see him? Are you going
to the are you going to the stop?

Speaker 5 (26:08):
Absolutely, I'm gonna see him. I want to be there
on and be front and center. You know, we always
do unusual bumper music on our show, so today we
played Bernie Sanders bumper music. Did you know if he
did an album back in nineteen eighty five?

Speaker 10 (26:21):
I had no idea.

Speaker 5 (26:23):
So we were playing some of that and I was
singing along and I'm going to see if Bernie is
going to do some karaoke. Maybe I could sing along
with him. If he wants to send his old.

Speaker 7 (26:30):
Songs again, maybe you guys could cut a record together, Howard.
I mean, I think that would probably sell. I'd buy
a copy. Why is he coming, Howard? What's the message today?

Speaker 5 (26:41):
Well? I think he's doing this all around the country
for I think probably two reasons. A. He wants to
get the message out that, in his words, we're in
an oligarchy now that we have way too many we
have way too big wealth inequality. And I think that's
his message and that's what he wants to get across.
I think the other thing is he's recognizing that a
lot of particular Republican elected officials are simply ignoring doing

(27:06):
any kind of town hall meetings, and so he's sort
of filling the gap. That certainly would be true here
in West Virginia where Senators Capito and Justice and Congressman
more in our area have not had anything resembling a
town hall meeting for a long time. So I think
he's trying to fill the gap as well as get
his message out. That's the way I look at him.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
What's the draw? Why do people connect with Bernie Sanders.

Speaker 5 (27:32):
I think he comes across as a reasonably normal that's
the right word. He doesn't come across quite like a politician.
He talks about issues that I think, whether people agree
with some of his solutions, he talks about the issues
that people care about. He talks about, you know, the economy,
not in highful Lowton Wall Street terms, but in terms

(27:54):
of you know, buying groceries and caring for your kids
and so on. I think he reates very well. He's say,
he's like your grandfather who's just got some nice things
to say. And I think he will have a huge
crowd today, and I think I think that particular crowd
will be very happy to hear what he has to say.

Speaker 7 (28:17):
How are the socialist label and he calls himself a
democratic socialist, I mean, is he pure in that socialist
mentality where he believes the government should own the means
of production?

Speaker 10 (28:28):
Is it some kind of hybrid?

Speaker 7 (28:29):
How should people think about his philosophy on capitalism versus socialism?

Speaker 5 (28:36):
Well, I don't think and I don't put myself up
as an expert on Bernie Sanders, although I have talked
to him a couple of times in the past. I
don't put myself up as an expert there. I don't
think he would be a socialist in the sense that
we think of it in the negative way. But he
also has great concerns about capitalism. I think he sees

(28:56):
socialism as a counterpoint to the excessive capitalism that he
sees in our society today. You know, sometimes I think
words get frightening. Years and years ago, guys, I actually
hosted talk Line a couple of times when Hope was away,
and people would call me and say, you're nothing but
a communist or a socialism and I would go, Okay,

(29:18):
if that's what you want to call me, that's fine.
Let's get over the language and talk about what we
mean by those things. So I think he is he
is concerned about the excesses of capitalism and if that
falls into the area of socialism. But I don't think
you're going to see him talk about the the you know,
the the the control of the productions of society and

(29:39):
so on, in that socialistic sense of the word.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Talking to Howard Monroe hosted the Watchdog Morning Show. You
can hear him on wv l Y in Wheeling weekday mornings.
Prior to this program, you two. Howard and TJ both
wrote about town halls this week. Why maybe we're having them?
Why maybe we're not having them? Howard, what's your take?
Why do you think the current sitting senators and congress

(30:05):
people aren't necessarily having these town halls? Or why should
they be having them? I guess maybe is the better question.

Speaker 5 (30:11):
Two separate questions. Why aren't they having them? I suspect
in their mind they don't need to. They have in
their mind what they're going to do. They know what
they're going to vote for, they know what policies they
plan to implement, and then a particularly instant hearing a
different point of view or listening to their constituents. Is
that pretty nasty of me? Yep? And that's what I
think of when I think of the town hall. What's

(30:34):
happening in some of these town halls? And TJ talked
about in his commentary the one out in Nebraska, for example,
earlier this week or late last week. What's turned extremely nasty,
as many town halls do anymore, with yelling and screaming
and cursing and so on, the problem is, in my mind,
when you don't communicate on a regular basis, frustrations built

(30:59):
up among your constitutions, and in the end, when you
do finally confront them face to face, you being elected officials,
all of that build up, frustration and anger just comes
spewing out. If we would have ongoing dialogue between our
elected officials and pop and their constituents and the citizenry,

(31:19):
we would deal with these things on you know, day
by day, week by week, month by month basis and
share ideas. But we don't, and so it builds up.
And when it builds up, we get we get very frustrated,
and we and we we'd let it go, We shout
it out. Civility is a thing that seems to be
dead in our society, and I don't like that. You know,

(31:42):
I'm the kind of guy who gets along with most people,
whether I agree or disagree with them. And I have
people on my radio show, as you guys do that
maybe don't agree with you politically or you doing to
them politically. I always use an example, and I did
it in the commentary I wrote today at our website. Uh,
former Compson Dave McKinley. Dave and I are about his opposites.

(32:03):
You can get politically, I mean, and on the radio show.
He would come on frequently and we would do battle
on the air about a particular policy or a political issue.
On the other hand, I see him out at the
Cracker Barrero and he says, hey, you walk them out
of room and join us for dinner.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
And you know, hey, how you doing?

Speaker 5 (32:18):
How's your wife doing? I mean because on a personal level,
we're able to communicate, which makes it easier for us
to discuss issues without becoming nasty about it. And there's
just not enough that being done anymore. And I don't
know why, but I guess I do know why. It's
things like talk television, It's things like the just the

(32:40):
overall divide in our society, you know, the outrage machine,
the social media anymore, and we end up yelling each
other instead of talking to each other. I have to
talk to people.

Speaker 7 (32:52):
Howard, Is it my fault? Is it Dave's fault? Is
it your fault? But what I would consider reasonable I
alluded to this in my piece that we've let the
fringes on both sides take control because look, yes, Republicans
are in power this time, and maybe the ones on
the left are doing the yelling. But there's been instances

(33:13):
where the left's been in power and the ones on
the right are doing the yelling. I don't think it's
fair to place blame one side or the other. But
that sensible center that we talk about that still does
value civility, that still believes, as you do, that you
can disagree with someone and still love that person, respect
that person. Have we allowed other folks to take the

(33:33):
microphones because we don't want to deal with it, And
have we slipped up by not being more involved in
these things and taking them back.

Speaker 5 (33:42):
Yes, and I'll take it one step further. I let
me speak for myself. I won't speak for you guys.
It is so easy to take an outrage story as
I prepare for the show and I look over all
the news sites and I, oh, here's an outrage story.
It's really a tiny story involving a tiny number of
people who are outraged and pounding their fists and raising,

(34:03):
you know, waving the torches and so on. But it's
good radio. So I take it and run with it,
and it generates texts and generates phone calls, and it
generates interest from both sides of the aisle. When, in
point of fact, in the grand scheme of things. It's
not that big a deal, and I think we are

(34:23):
part of the problem because of that. So I think, yes,
I think that again speaking for myself, and I think
you guys are trying to be reasonable as well, but
you probably do some of the same thing. We end up.
We end up, you know, cutting off our nose despite
our faces, because we pick up on the outrage and
we allow it to dictate some of what we do.

(34:45):
I shouldn't take the blame for that, Howard.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Monroe joining us wvo Y and Whaling, hosts of the
Watchdog Morning Show. Let me just toss this out at you, Howard,
and I get I'm not advocating necessarily that the town
halls are not necessarymore because there's a connection there that
you need to make if you are an elected official
with your constituents, looking people face to face, talking to them.

(35:09):
But if I want to know what Senator Capito is thinking,
or Congressman More or Congressman Miller's it's on social media.
It's out there. There are a number of ways for
these officials to directly communicate with the constituency. So if
I've got other things to do, if I'm a normal person, okay,
I see what they think. I can read their Twitter feed,
I can see their social media. I don't need to

(35:31):
go to a town hall. And that leaves the door
open again for the people who are just the most
aggravated to go and yell, yell and shout. And there's
no need for me to host a town hall if
that's what the results going to be, because I've got
other avenues to communicate with constituents.

Speaker 5 (35:47):
That's a one way street. And I hear you, and
most of us will, those of us who pay attention
to things. We know we're Senator Capital stands on issues
and where Senator Justice stands on issues, and found some
more stands on issues. We know that we read the
social media fees, we watch the press briefings or the
news story. But that's a one way street. That's them

(36:08):
telling us what they think. A townholl meeting allows the
constituents to say, yes, we understand that, Senator, but here
are some of our concerns that we'd like you to hear.
We'd like you to know what we're thinking. We'd like
you to understand why when you say the big, beautiful
bill is going to help us with our taxes, we say,

(36:30):
but it's not going to help me when my snap
benefits are cut. It is not going to help me
when my health insurance is cut. Right now, the social
media is a one way street. We hear what the
elected officials say, we read what they say, we know
what they think, but we don't have a chance to
say it back. And that's what a townhole meeting ought
to be for, for the constituents to say, we hear you,

(36:54):
but we hear you, but here are the concerns we
wish you would consider.

Speaker 7 (37:00):
Howard, You've got me thinking someone called me out on
my piece and that's good.

Speaker 10 (37:04):
I need to be called out.

Speaker 7 (37:05):
And they said, you know what you're writing this, Why
don't you host a town hall and be a moderator.
If people are afraid, if politicians don't want to come
to these events because they think they'll be stacked by
one side or the other, why aren't you doing that?
Why aren't you stepping up and providing that service. I mean,
maybe you, David, I maybe we should get together and
invite folks to.

Speaker 10 (37:24):
A forum and have a town hall. And maybe I'm
dropping the ball. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (37:29):
No, that's I think that's that's a fair point. You know,
we we hide behind our microphone. I shouldn't say it
that way, but you understand what I'm saying. We we
do our thing here in our studios, and maybe we
should be standing on a stage and helping, helping engage
the dialogue in a more direct kind of way. I
remember the very first town hall meeting I ever hosted,

(37:50):
and this is a very very very long time ago.
I had to do with a damn that was breaking
in Belmont County and I was kind of host moderating
this town hall meeting. It got so bad I've said,
let's let's get back to the radio. Let's let's stop
this townhall meeting. Just have this debate on the radio,
because it gets so contentious. I was a young pup then,

(38:12):
but I think I think you make a good point,
Dave DJ. Maybe we should, you know, maybe maybe we
have a little more responsibility than just being behind the
microphones every day.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Howard Monroe, joining us WVOY, hosted the watch Dog Morning
Show in Wheeling. How are the recovery efforts clean up
efforts still continue after the Father's Day weekend floods. I'm
sure you've been keeping close tabs on that. How has
the state's response been.

Speaker 10 (38:38):
In your opinion, I think.

Speaker 5 (38:40):
The state has done a reasonably good job. I know
that not everybody is happy. There's a lot of folks
who feel they could have more help from the state,
but I think the state has done a reasonably good job. Listen,
I have been commending Patrick Morrissey, and I have said
over and over again Governor Morrissey and I do not
see eye to eye. I'm politically policy issues, We're about

(39:01):
as far as part as you can get, and I'm
not so sure not a far apart person as well.
I'm not sure he particularly likes me. Having said that,
I think that he's done a really good job here
in Ohio County. He has been here multiple times, including
just yesterday. He showed up in less than twenty four
hours after the flood. He has brought some federal money
and some federal resources, and sometimes the most important thing

(39:24):
you bring is simply presence. He presidents ncee Nts. He
has brought his presence. He has walked the Tridelphie's walked
Valley Grold, He's talked to the people out there, had
conversation with those folks, and sometimes that's the most important thing.
So not everybody's happy. He was at a meeting yesterday.

(39:46):
He gathered with some of the elected officials of public officials,
not elected officials, and there was one guy out from
the megaphone yelling at him, you know, you need to
answer our questions. But I think I think they've done
a reasonably good job. Folks aren't having of seeing but
I think they're not happy with SEMA, not because of
Donald trumpeting that stuff there. SEEMA doesn't deliver what they

(40:06):
think they're going to deliver. FEMA doesn't make you whole,
never did. So there are folks who are going. But
now I still have to, you know, pay for some
of this myself. But in general, I think that the
cleanup is moving along. The people are getting a better
sense of self now and of a community, and you know,
we're moving forward. A long way to go, a long

(40:27):
way to go, but moving forward.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Howard Monroe host of the Watchdog Morning show on wv
l Y in Whaling, and he'll be a front row
at the Bernie Sanders event coming up later today in Whaling.
Always appreciate it.

Speaker 14 (40:39):
Right, Howard.

Speaker 5 (40:40):
I want to do sing along going this land is
your land, this land is mine. I want to work
on that, all.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Right, Good luck Howard, appreciate it, Buddy, got to hit
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Speaker 1 (44:55):
All right, I got two quick stories for you, TJ
energy related. This is why I bring them up to you, okay,
and kind of ties into what we were talking about
we've talked a little bit about this week. The first
is from Fox Business. A massive data center that was
slated for southern Arizona maybe no more after city council

(45:17):
voted on Wednesday unanimously directed all staff to stop work.
Dubbed Project Blue, a data center that was supposed to
be built on two hundred ninety acres. The county's Board
of Supervisors approved selling that land, but the projects still
required the city's approval. This is the City of Tucson,
by the way, approval of a development agreement and annexation

(45:37):
of the land, but dozens of people filled the city's
chambers in opposition to the project, and now council appears
to have killed it in Tucson. I juxtaposed that with
the story from The Wall Street Journal. Private equity firm
Silver Lake is expected to announce a four hundred million
dollar project aimed at securing powered land and sell it

(45:58):
back to data under developers and hyperscalers. The joint venture
has said to already secured three gigawatts of power and
is developing sites in Texas and Georgia. Partners expect the
next phase the project will ultimately result in securing over
six gigawatts of power. It's happening, whether you like it,
or not, and you can get in on it. This

(46:20):
was my point. I wanted to get your quick take.
You can either get in on it or you can
be on the outside looking in.

Speaker 7 (46:26):
I would rather have a seat at the table, Dave,
than be on the menu. That's my philosophy when it
comes to these things. And I guess, look, if you're
in two sign you don't want it, maybe don't use
chat GPT in twuson. I don't know what to tell you,
but look, man, it's like any other innovation. It's going
to happen because the market wants it. And we haven't

(46:47):
even talked about quantum computing yet, and how much juice
that's going to take. And guess what we have to
do quantum computing because China's not going to forego quantum computing.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
I just don't want us to be How often have
we said here in West Virginia, if we had only
done that fifteen years ago, twenty years ago, we could
be here. Here's an opportunity, here's an opportunity.

Speaker 5 (47:11):
All right.

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(48:03):
This morning, Charleston police say a man entered the Charleston
Area Medical Center emergency room early this morning, just after
midnight with a nailmen. He became agitated, increasingly aggressive, eventually
locked himself in a restroom and emerged with a knife.
Witnesses say he was aggressive, lunging at others with the
knife in the waiting area. He was also discharged a

(48:25):
fire extinguisher. Police were called. With officers arrived, they tried
to talk the man down, but when an elevator door opened,
he attacked an unsuspecting writer with the knife. That's when
police acted quickly and shot the suspect. He was given
first aid but died. Name has not been released. We
talked with of Charleston Police Chief Scott Dempsey earlier in

(48:47):
the first hour. If you missed that conversation, we'll have
it posted for you coming up just a bit when
it's available in podcast form. With all of that being set, say,
good morning TJ. Meadows in our Charleston studios. Good morning, TJ.

Speaker 7 (48:59):
Good morning Dave. We both grew up here. You've covered
news for a long time. I was racking my brain.
I don't remember an incident like this ever happening in
West virginiaet in then text of a hospital in an
emergency room.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Do you recall anything not on this scale, not on
this scale. But I'd have to think about it for
a minute. Yeah, Unfortunately a lot of those events run together.

Speaker 7 (49:20):
Yeah they do. You just kind of wonder though microcosm
of where we're heading and how things are getting worse
and worse. But yeah, I was just I was batting
that around. I was curious if you remembered anything, but
definitely a terrible situation and not welcome news to wake
up to this morning.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
By the way, completely unrelated note, but if you're watching
the video stream on the Metro News TV app and
at ww Metro newstv dot com. We've got a ticker.
We've got a ticker on the bottom of the screen,
scrolling headlines. Jake Link and Zach Carroll Chick man of
the people working to get that up and running. And
it's up and running with like live, up to date headlines,

(49:58):
scrolling look at us finally entering the twenty first century.
Here technologically well done, fellas well done.

Speaker 7 (50:05):
There's an opportunity to have a little fun here if
we can hijack the ticker at some point, maybe put
a rogue message or two in there.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Jake says that will not happen ever, has it under
lock and key?

Speaker 7 (50:17):
No, man, you wouldn't take a shot at Dave Allen
with the ticker? Oh yeah, I'd do that any chance
I could get, I would do that. Joining us, I'll
mention News talk Line friend of the show. He's the
host of The Hill Sunday, which can be watched on
News Nation, and he.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
Is politics editor for The Hill. Chris Steierwald joins us. Chris,
good morning, man.

Speaker 5 (50:38):
I don't know if it is a good morning. I
was sitting here waiting to talk to you guys, And
I heard TJ say that a story was a microcosm
of how everything just is getting worse and is getting
worse and worse. And I thought, I guess I should
just go. I don't know why I should stay. I
should I should just go? If everything is just getting

(50:58):
worse and worse, I should just go.

Speaker 10 (51:00):
Maybe then well, no, the way you feel.

Speaker 5 (51:04):
Better about the world is acknowledging that the world has
always been a falling place. I can't cite you chapter
and verse about every bad thing that ever happened in
hospital in West Virginia history. But do you know about
the butcher of Quiet Dell?

Speaker 10 (51:21):
I do not.

Speaker 5 (51:25):
It was the twenties, maybe the thirties, and Quiet Dell
is north central West Virginia. I think it's Clarksburg metro probably,
And this guy killed so many people. He would get
mail order brides and they would come, he would wo them,

(51:49):
he would course them, then he'd come and then he'd
kill them. He killed kids. It was amazing, and his
trial became a national sensation. They had to move the
trial to the theater in town to accommodate the massive
national media attention that this guy got So this is
like one hundred years ago. The human nature has no history, right.

(52:13):
People are not different now than they were one hundred
years ago. They're not different than they were a thousand
years ago. People are the same. We are the worst,
we are the best, and we have a system of government.
We have an idea. We believe in natural law because
we believe in human nature. Human nature were good and

(52:36):
for ill is evidence of why there If people are
a certain way, then that suggests that there is a
unifying principle to all of it. And our constitution, our
system of limited government, of checks and balances, and the
incentives that we have in all of that predicated on

(52:56):
man's fallen nature. And while it does feel sometimes in
the short term, as as you said, everything runs together,
that's feeling the short term, and things are getting worse.
Things are always terrible. Also, things are always great.

Speaker 10 (53:10):
There's nothing new under the sun. You've reminded me that.

Speaker 7 (53:13):
And maybe it's just my desire for a better day,
which isn't going to happen here in the long run.

Speaker 10 (53:17):
But I digress. We'll move on. Thank you, Chris.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
You have inadvertently led us into a question I want
to pose to you today because you often hear or
see it on social media, and that's dangerous.

Speaker 10 (53:28):
I know.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
Oh, if we could only go back to the days
in politics when there was civilty and compromise and you know,
Reagan and tipp O'Neil, all the good old days. Did
the good old days ever really exist? Is that a
myth that we create in our minds? Much like you
just talked about.

Speaker 5 (53:46):
How bad do things have to get before people become
willing to be good? Right? How much do people have
to suffer? How much the the when I think it
was Lincoln who said there's no education in the second
tick of a mule was talking about individuals, right, that

(54:08):
people have to that if you don't learn it the
first time, you may never learn it. But that's not
true for society. And you talked about Reagan and tip O'Neil.
What made Reagan and tip O'Neil possible was that the
preceding fifteen years had been heinously bad gas lines, political assassinations,

(54:30):
political violence, riots in more than one hundred cities, inflation,
the pernicious dishonesty of federal government in the prosecution of
the Vietnam War, the shocking corruption and dishonesty around the
Watergate scandal. All of that took the United States to
a point where people became willing to be willing. They

(54:52):
became willing to say, Okay, well, maybe we have to
maybe we need to do better, and maybe you know,
I watch what this administra doing. And basically the core
premise of this administration is you like that dem you
did it to us, Now we're going to do it
to you double bad. And in a pleasant imagining of this,

(55:17):
what happens is that after enough suffering that both sides disarmed,
they say, okay, but we know that what will probably
happen is that when Democrats get back in power, they
will use the tools. I wrote about this this week,
wrote about this for today. Do you remember in twenty
twenty one they had this cockamami for the People Act

(55:40):
and Democrats we're going to revolutionize voting and we're going
to do all this stuff. If they had passed that
legislation and put the federal government in charge in a
more profound way of the way elections are run, if
Democrats think that what's going on with the Texas redistricting
is bad, it would be one hundred times worse. What

(56:03):
would be going as you watched President He's going to
call for a new census to He's pulling on every
lever he can to obtained political advantage for his party
and for himself. Democrats just four years ago were demanding
saying it was essential that the federal government be put
in charge of how states draw their congressional district about

(56:23):
what the voting practices are in certain states. And the
point being in all of this, which is the reason
that we have limited government, is because we recognize human
nature and we do not think it is appropriate to
give people too much power or any more power than
absolutely necessary to rule over other people.

Speaker 7 (56:42):
Chris I wrote today that bringing the FBI into this,
Governor Abbott's making a mistake. If this is a state
sovereignty issue and it's not against the law, It's been
through the courts in Texas. I think it was Lulac
versus Parry said, Yep, Texas can do this. They've done
it before in two thousand and three. Let's just get
this over with a move on. States can do what
they want to do. I don't know that we had

(57:03):
the discussion yesterday with a bunch of West Virginia folks,
Democrats in particular, that oh, we're being disenfranchised here in
West Virginia. I think that just further exacerbates the problem,
opens a deeper can of worms. Am I right or wrong?

Speaker 5 (57:17):
Well? I mean, look, that's the problem of maximalism if
you don't ask should questions and you only ask can questions.
Can we do it? Yeah, they can do it. Of
course they can do it, and Democrats can abscond. So
it's just everybody pushing it to the points that they
can push it. So then the question arises, can we

(57:39):
bring the feds into this and find a way if
we if we trump up a bribery charge against these people,
can we somehow make this a federal matter, that this
is cross state lines and we need to bring the
feds in, And then you'd end up with, in a
very unhappy thought, federal authority, right cash Betel's agents going

(58:03):
to arrest lawmakers from a state who are engaged in
a state based dispute. And I don't think we're there today,
but we are getting closer. And I would just say
to Republicans who think that would be cool, wait for
President Alexandria Acasio Cortes. You wait you break one more
norm you keep breaking them. And when a democratic socialist,

(58:27):
when an uber progressive eventually is the one riding the
populous wave, you wait and see how you like how
that president abuses these powers. It is a genuine threat
through the way that our republic is supposed to work.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
Chris Trewald is joining US. He's politics editor for The Hill,
host of The hill On News Nation on Sunday mornings. Chris,
I was just thinking about this listening to you and
previously you're talking about the sixties leading into the Reagan ears.
Are we living our version of this sixties or or
is the sixties worse?

Speaker 11 (59:05):
I mean worse?

Speaker 5 (59:06):
How the we did go to the moon?

Speaker 3 (59:09):
Yeah, we did.

Speaker 5 (59:10):
We did go to the moon in the sixties.

Speaker 11 (59:11):
We did.

Speaker 5 (59:13):
And the use of government forced to impose segregation, we
and to disenfranchise people from voting. A lot of good
stuff happened, Many good things happened. There was some good music.
There was like it's again, it's always both sing. When
we look back on a period of time, we shorthanded, right,

(59:35):
And the greater distance you get from something, the shorter
the shorthand becomes. But when you're living through it, it
is what what did Dickens tell us? It was the
best of times, it was the worst of times. It's
always both sings, and we can't wait around for things
to get good. We make them good bye. I guess

(59:57):
the way I would put it is the reason that
we enjoyed the peace, stability and accord that we did
from the end of the Second World War to the
middle of the nineteen sixties for that relatively brief period. Yes,
we had we had blown up all of the other
major economies in the world, and the Soviet Union was

(01:00:18):
gutted by the Second World War, but also because our leaders,
our people had lived through it.

Speaker 11 (01:00:23):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:00:24):
It's Dwight Eisenhower was real chill about stuff, because if
you've done Operation Overlord, if you've if you've seen it all,
you've seen the world nearly destroyed as we know it.
Then you said, maybe we're not gonna maybe we're not
going to start a war over the Suez Canal. And
the willingness to live in an imperfect world peacefully and

(01:00:48):
with the maximum amount of accord can only come through
suffering through the previously the accord and decency of the
fifties and early nineteen sixties is a product of one
of the period of the worst human experiences in ten
thousand years of history. The span between nineteen thirty and
nineteen forty five is one of the worst periods of

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mass slaughter, painous abuses of humanity, mass death. We went
through all of that and people became willing to be willing.
And I think your question points in this way, which is,
have we suffered enough? Have we suffered enough yet for
people to say and we better, as they would say,

(01:01:31):
we better get a little act right, right, We better
get a open up the can of act right and
take a big drink, because it's time for us to
start behaving ourselves better. I do not think we are
there yet. I am sorry to say that. I think
that we will have to get a few more kicks
of this mule before people become ready to act right.

Speaker 7 (01:01:50):
Walk me through the White House's announcement yesterday, I guess,
piggybacking on the FBI's use of what's using the FBI
in Texas? I should say, what way through the announcement
that the White House will use federal law enforcement officers
to help police Washington, DC.

Speaker 10 (01:02:06):
You're there, You're in the district.

Speaker 5 (01:02:09):
Well, I have am I'm a resident of the District
of Columbia, but I'm an anti district of Columbia. Statehood
and home rule has not been super successful. Shout out
Marion Barry the I understand why the people who live

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I hope, I hope no one can hear me here
because they'll be mad at me. But I'm this is
a federal district. It's constitutionally mandated to be a federal
district if the president, the president has a lot, a lot,
a lot of leeway to enforce the law inside this
federal district. And I'm just not of all the things

(01:02:53):
that one could be could be. Maybe I'll put it
this way, I'm a lot more concerned about what the
President did at the of labor statistics that I am
about whether or not park police have bigger areas of
patrol inside the very small district of Columbia.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
We got a couple of minutes here before we got
to hit the break. Chris, you wrote about that this week,
So what's what's your take? As far as you know,
President Trump, he lets the you know, fires the head
of the bureau there get rid of her. She's she's corrupt,
She's not doing the job right? What's that all say
to you?

Speaker 5 (01:03:28):
Well, I think we have a question. The question is
does the president think it is that that data are real?

Speaker 11 (01:03:37):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:03:37):
Does he believe that there is such a thing as neutral,
neutrally found, and reliable data. I don't know that he does.
I don't know that he believes that, thinking about the
way he talks about election results, thinking about the way
there was a line from Kevin Hassett, who's whose lead
economic advisor, who said, you know, well, he'll feel better

(01:04:00):
about the numbers one it's his people. Well, it's one
thing to complain about the methodology that the Bureau Labor
Statistics uses, which I do right, And there's a response
rate problem on these surveys. It is survey based work.
I'm a survey thinking person, and there are problems and

(01:04:20):
the revisions have gotten steep for over time because of
those problems, and they should be addressed and they should
be fixed. But there's a question. Is it possible that
there could be a bad report that Donald Trump would
accept and say yeah, okay, well it's bad and we're
living with it, or in his mind, is every piece

(01:04:41):
of data, is every job report, is every election return?
Is everything inherently either for me or against me. And
that's a concerning space to enter where I'm fine with
the fact that we're sort of in a post t era.
I'm not fine with it, but you can do post

(01:05:03):
truth because truth is inherently subjective when we're describing things.
I guess i'd say it's the difference between an article
in the newspaper about something that happened and the box
score in the sports section, and there are subjective choices
that are made when you write the article. We should

(01:05:24):
try to be as fair as possible, we should try
to be as even handed and dispassionate as possible. But inherently,
the truths that you're pointing to are going to involve
subjective decisions. But the facts that go into it are
supposed to be fact. They're supposed to be data that
we can rely on. And it's one thing to be

(01:05:44):
post truth. It's a different thing to be post facts.
And I'm a little worried about us living in a
post fact world.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
Well, Chris, the fact is I got to hit the
brake here, buddy, Appreciate it. As always. We'll see you
on the hill coming up on Sunday. Thanks Mattie Yeah Brother.
Chris Steywaltz, politics editor for The Hill and host of
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Man the suspect was.

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