Talkline | Dec. 17, 2025

Amelia Knisley, from WV Watch, breaks down the governor's proposal to bring foster kids placed outside the state back to WV. Fairmont State Political Science Professor Greg Noone discusses military operations in the Caribbean. State Senate Candidate John Williams joins the show. Plus, Chris Lawrence stops by to detail the low buck harvest. 

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will talk about this Venezuelan blockade, the strikes on the
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Delegate John william It's the Democrat announcing that he'll run
for the state Senates in the thirteenth district. Could Democrats
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hundred and seven six' five eight two five. Five, Yesterday
Governor morrisey held a news conference and announced changes to
the state's foster care. System one of those, changes the
governor will be requesting state funding for a new fund
aimed at renovating current state owned buildings with the goal

(02:42):
of keeping beds open and getting foster children who are
currently placed outside of the state back In West. Virginia
joining us On Metro news talk, Line Amelia Farrell, nicely
she's over At West Virginia. Watch she covers the capitol
and all things that happened In charleston and joins us
On Metro news talk, Line, amelia good. Morning thanks for joining.

Speaker 5 (03:02):
Us good, Morning how are you doing.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Well so we've talked a lot about the child welfare,
system foster. Care we've talked about the, kids and there
are several hundred who are placed Outside West. Virginia the
governor wants to bring them. Home this proposal broadly at
least opens the door for.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
That it.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
Does you're, Right we have talked about this topic a.
Lot we have about three hundred and forty, kids foster
children who are living in facilities outside Of West. Virginia
they are placed all over the country as far As, California, Utah,
florida et. Cetera and so yesterday we heard a proposal
From Governor morrissey that he wants to work with the

(03:43):
legislature to open up a. Fund he wants to put
six million dollars in it with what you, said the
goal of opening up some beds in some buildings already
owned by the state so that we can bring these
kids back. Home so that money is going to be
used to renovate some of these buildings and make them
available to, children AND i think also be used to

(04:03):
get some providers who can provide the intense therapy that
many of these children.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Need, yeah that will be a key. Component let's start
with a funding component of. This he's going to ask
for six million dollars from the legislature of the.

Speaker 5 (04:14):
Budget that's what he said. Yesterday that was not in
his initial announcement, yesterday but Steven On adams AND i
asked very specific questions about, funding and so in response to,
us he, said, Yes i'm going to put six million
up Or i'm going to ask for six million from the.
Legislature he is hoping that over, time he kept calling
this a revolving, fund and so he's hoping over time

(04:35):
that the money we save from bringing kids back in
state can be used to put in the fund to
keep renovating buildings and pay for. This so last year
we spent seventy million dollars paying for foster kids to
live out of state and paying for their. Education so
there is a lot of money that, theoretically, sorry my
life just, dife theoretically we could bring back in, state

(04:56):
but it is going to take upfront. Money and of,
course in this legislation you're getting that money up front
can be a, challenge, Right and so this was already a.
Bill this exact idea is already in a bill that
we were going to expect From Republican Senator vensted's And
Delegate Adam. Burghammer so lawmakers were already aware this was

(05:16):
something that their colleagues wanted to. Do so we'll see
how it fares in the budget.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Process amelia nicely joining us From West virginia watch and
maybe that's the key that there was already some framework out.
There there's already some agreement on, this so it's not
like you're presenting lawmakers with this brand new idea that
they have to get accustomed. To it's already in the.

Speaker 5 (05:35):
Ether it is absolutely and you, KNOW i think for,
Me i'm really drawn by the stories of these, children
and we've sent children to some pretty dangerous facilities out
of state that have been accused of abuse and SO
i don't want to minimize. That lawmakers also care about
the welfare of our. Children but in A republican heavy,

(05:56):
legislature that fiscal note and the money we're spending can
get at the retention as. Well seventy million dollars going
out of, state sometimes not even providing the best care
has gotten their. Attention but are they willing to invest
those dollars up? Front will be interesting to.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Watch can we get the personnel, THOUGH i guess that
would be the second. Quest it's one thing to build the.
FACILITIES i think we can do. THAT i was talking
To Erica peterson yesterday with The Mountain State spotlight and
the story she did Where West virginia is not using
all these funds that are, available not using them, all
and it seemed to come back to a personnel. Issue

(06:32):
and that's my question. Here if we build, it will they. Come.

Speaker 5 (06:36):
YEAH i think in so many parts of reporting on
the child welfare, system the devil is in the, details.
RIGHT i totally agree with you THAT i think we
can renovate. Buildings we need providers who have the specific
training to work with children who have been, abused who
have been, neglected who may have already been in the you,
know in a juvenile attention. Center there's so many things

(06:57):
that have affected these, children and SO i would hate
to see us bring these kids back home and they're
just in a hospital, setting. Right we want to provide
them with the best life we, can the best support
to set them up for success once they leave the
system at age, eighteen and make sure that they're getting
a proper, education because that's been an issue in out
of state facilities, too is that they're not being educated.

(07:17):
Always SO i really hope That West virginia can be a.
Leader wouldn't it be so great if other states looked
at us and, Said, wow they did something really, innovative
brought kids back. Home they're making a difference in their.
Lives but, yeah getting the providers back into a state
that struggles with healthcare is going to be an, issue
and some of that is tied to what the department

(07:38):
is willing to pay for these, providers whether it be Through,
medicaid whether it just be, salaries. Etc money is going
to be a big detail for this to work.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Correctly amelia nicely joining us From West. Virginia watch and
you mentioned in your story last week during interim committee,
meetings lawmakers heard from some of these, providers and they're
a little sheepish to get into business with The department
Of health And Human.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
Services, yeah it was kind of interesting having this announcement
at a press conference following what we heard last. Week
but providers came to the capitol last week and told, Lawmakers,
now these are providers who run group homes and do
other things for foster children. Here they, said we're still
not getting paid on, time and that's a major. Issue they,
said we're concerned about opening up more beds for these

(08:24):
high needed, children which take more, money which take more,
resources if we're not being paid properly for the kids
we already. Have so the department has, said you, know
maybe payments are delayed a. Week they're kind of saying
that's not completely. True so, YEAH i don't. Know i'm
interested to see how that will. WORK i know That
Human Services Secretary Alex mayer said he's looking at our

(08:46):
state providers to come in and run some of these.
Beds so, yeah it's going to be interesting to see
how they're able to staff these and pay for.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
It the governor also talked about some of the improvements
that have been made in the child welfare system during
his first year in. Office what do you?

Speaker 5 (09:01):
Highlight, yeah a lot of things. REALLY i think some
that really stood out to me is that The states
reduced its backlog of referrals to cps by over fifty
percent since he's taken, office AND i think that's really.
Critical we've had issues for, years really years with cps
properly investigating abuse in neglect, referrals and so that was

(09:21):
good to. Hear there's also fewer kids coming into, care
which is, good but we want to make sure that
we're bringing the kids into care that need to be
there right and not bringing in the ones that. Don't
SO i think that's. Good they are continuing to make
headway on hiring, cps AND i think there's going to
be a shift on really focusing on. Prevention we Heard Alex,

(09:42):
mayor The, secretary talk about that, yesterday but also lawmakers
have a bill requiring a prevention plan for the foster care,
system AND i think supporting families before an investigation is
really critical to decrease that number of kids coming into.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Care When Alex mayor stepped into that, position, well let's
just be. Bluning he had a mess on his hands
to deal. With, yeah are they making progress with the
infrastructure behind the scenes stuff or that is actually critical
getting the care because if it's inefficient behind the, scenes
that's what you end up spending all your time. Doing
is the paperwork in the you, know the paper. Shuffling

(10:20):
is that getting any? Better you?

Speaker 5 (10:22):
KNOW i think It's i'm going to be, HONEST i
think it's really hard to. Say LIKE i hear a
lot of mixed, REVIEWS i do think there's some really
encouraging data points that we've. Seen, however AS i talk
to families who are serving foster, kids who are you,
know whether they're foster parents or biological parents who are
trying to regain, CUSTODY i continue to hear those same

(10:42):
issues OF i haven't seen A cps, WORKER i can't
get anyone to call me. Back AND i think in
the press we're still struggling sometimes to get information on
the foster care. System SO i don't want to minimize.
THAT i think there are some encouraging things, happening but
there's just still so much that we don't know how it's.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Going amelia and nicely joining us up From West virginia
watch haven't had a chance to talk to you Since
Speaker hanshaw had his news conference in The HOUSE gop
rolled out their priorities for the legislative. Session do, you
from your expert opinion being a veteran capital, reporter is
there momentum to actually tackle economic, development, jobs child welfare,

(11:22):
system child welfare, system public? Education is there momentum? Here
or is this all lip service to going into the?

Speaker 5 (11:29):
SESSION i think in The house there absolutely is momentum with.
Jobs now with, education how, Welfare we'll have to wait
and see on that. ONE i mean we, here we
kind of start every year With we've got to fix
the education system and it kind of peters. Out BUT
i think with jobs and economic development in The house.
Absolutely i've been asked us on a couple of radio,

(11:50):
shows and each Time i've, said The house is not
going to be the. Problem probably it is an election
here things get. Wonky it's really going to Be, Okay
let's say The house passes a great economic development, bill
will The senate take it? Up The senate is the Wild, west, right,
like it is. Unpredictable and then you've got the kind
of interesting relationship between the governor and, lawmakers will he

(12:11):
sign a bill should it get to his desk and
during an election, Year SO i think there is, momentum
but we'll see how it travels from one end of
the capital to the. Other and do not underestimate the
wonkiness of election year. SESSIONS i, mean you never know
what kind of bill will be brought up to.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Debates two. THINGS i think that's the first time we've
used wonky twice in one segment on the. Show all. Right,
secondly it would seem to me though child welfare, system
the foster care, system getting, that fixing the problems there
and giving those kids an opportunity to get jobs that have,
skills go to. College that seems to go hand in

(12:51):
hand with economic development to. Me but you, Know i'm
a lowly talk show. Host what DO i.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
KNOW i totally. AGREE i think my hesitancy that so
many of these things are going to cost, money whether
it's hiring MORE cps workers to connect with these children
or paying them, more or bringing kids back in. State
and not only has this legislature not been fond of
spending money on child welfare and some of that to
be fairs because they feel like they've thrown a lot

(13:16):
of money at it and what's gotten. Better but also
we're facing a lot of federal. Cuts we have less
federal money coming into the state that we're going to
have to figure out how to pay for things now
out of our. Pocket so you, know the budget so
often is a reflection of, priorities and with these child welfare,
bills they will take. Money so we'll just have to
wait and.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
See everything's a great, idea and so you got to
put a price tag on, IT i mean, fair Nice.
Christmas everything ready to go at your?

Speaker 5 (13:44):
House, No, No i'm too busy covering. Collegics so my
basement looks like a. Target but nothing's. Wrapped it won't
be wrapped till the twenty. FOURTH i just got to
be honest with.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
You so, well you, know you know how to work on.
DEADLINE i mean we all know how to work on,
deadline so that doesn't surprise.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
Me.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Melia, Hey Merry. Christmas happy to, you appreciate you coming.
On we'll see at the capitol real. Soon, Yes Merry,
Christmas Milia farrell. Nicely you can read her piece over
At West virginia watch dot. Com coming up the latest
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Speaker 1 (16:12):
More I'LL i to. You we'll get the latest on
The australian mass shooting in the second hour right, Now
Fox News. Radios Eben brown JOINS. Us members Of congress
met yesterday With secretary Of Defense Pete hegseth about The
venezuelan boat. Strikes evan joins. Us i'll mentioned his talk Line,
Eban good. Morning that was a closed door. Meeting but

(16:33):
what were lawmakers saying?

Speaker 9 (16:34):
Afterward, well, afterwards there were a lot of people on
The senate And House Armed Services, committee Especially, democrats who
are upset that they still haven't been shown the unedited
video of the strike on the supposed drug boat that
involved a double, strike one where the strike was made
and survivors were, observed and then a second strike was

(16:57):
made to eliminate, them with a lot Of President trump's
enemies saying that this was a violation of international law
or some kind of war. Crime they've yet to proven
how that. Is but That secretary of Hegg seth excuse,
Me secretary of Warhag seth said that this video remains.
Classified President trump himself is said he wouldn't mind if

(17:19):
people saw, it but the video does remain classified for.
Now all of this comes as The president is getting
ready to address the nation, tonight and just last night
The president announced that The navy will blockade THE Us,
navy that, is will Blockade venezuelan oil tankers as well

(17:40):
as they have now officially Ruled maduro's regime In venezuela
to be a foreign terrorist.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Organization is there a clear object it seems, eban this
is all aimed at toppling The maduro. Regime but has
a clear objective been outlined or was that outlined in
the meeting? Yesterday, well we don't.

Speaker 9 (17:58):
Know the meeting was behind, closed or maybe we'll learn
more from The president tonight when he speaks to the.
NATION i think it's becoming more and more obvious that
The president Wants maduro out of, there which puts him
in an interesting. Situation. One The president has been a
very big champion of The Monroe, doctrine this two hundred
plus year old idea that we have here in The
United states that this is our hemisphere and that other

(18:18):
world powers need to keep out that they shouldn't be
using The western hemisphere to try to undermine The United
states Of. America on top of, that, however The president
made a lot of campaign promises about no more foreign.
Wars of, course The president would probably argue he was
talking about entrenched wars that go on for decades on
the other side of the planet that don't result in

(18:40):
any real positive change For american. Interests, however one can
make the argument that getting rid Of, maduro who has
given shelter to not just drug cartels but ALSO hesbla
and has sold his oil To china outside of, sanctions
that getting rid of him would Serve american, interests and
people could be reminded of THE us effort to Topple

(19:02):
noriega In panama some thirty years, ago which was pretty much.
Bloodless IF i remember, it involved this kind of special
ops type of thing in which he was basically pressured
to get, out and he. Did we did not Occupy
panama for twenty, years so perhaps maybe a similar outlook
is being used.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Here, EVAN i read a report this, morning AND i
can't remember which outlet it. Was the strikes on the
drug boats have been justified or described as keeping, fentanyl
keeping the drugs out Of. America but is it as
much about that or is it just as much about
trying to choke off another money supply to The maduro,
regime which would obviously be the drug.

Speaker 9 (19:41):
Trade, well it's kind of. Both because of the drug
trade which has been not just headquartered In, venezuela but
it's one of the. Headquarters tens of thousands Of americans
have been killed because of these awful drugs that have
infiltrated our. Society and, yes there we could argue that
there's a mental health cri in our country in which
people are running to.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
These types of.

Speaker 9 (20:03):
Drugs but the fact that they're there and that they've
been able to come into our, country either over land
borders or through maritime, borders is a serious, problem and
certainly someone who might be good and moral running a
country wouldn't allow his country to be used for the
vast poisoning of the people of another. Country so there
is An american interest, here and it's also QUITE i

(20:24):
think notable that what we're seeing is a bit of
a paradigm. Shift you, know prior to nine to, eleven
we treated terrorism as a law enforcement. Operation even when
THE us coal was bombed in The fort And yemen
a year or so before nine to, eleven we treated
it as a law enforcement. Matter after nine to, eleven
we shift our. Stance we made this about, war and
now we are making this new war on drugs really

(20:48):
about a. War we are not capturing drug, traders drug
traffickers the law enforcement, mechanism THE, dea or maybe even
The coastguard and bringing them into this and giving them
lawyers and. Trials we're treating them as enemy combatants and
we're killing. Them that is a different way of dealing
with this ongoing problem that The president seems to be

(21:11):
a big fan.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Of Fox News Radio's Eben. Brown, eban always appreciate. It
thank you for the. Update you're. Welcome coming, Up Greg
noon is going to join Us Fairmont State University political Science.
Professor we'll talk about this idea of treating the drug,
trade the war on drugs as an actual war and military.
Up we'll talk about the, Blockade we'll talk About. Venezuela

(21:32):
we'll talk about strikes on those. Boats that's coming up
a little bit later. On John williams will join. Me
democrats running for A senate seat in the thirteenth district
could be. Interesting this is Talk line On Metro, news
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(21:53):
great state Of West.

Speaker 10 (21:54):
Virginia West Virginia Metro, news Signed Jeff. Jenkins Governor Patrick
morrisey says it is time to home the more than
three Hundred West virginia kids receiving treatment in other states
as part Of West virginia's child welfare. System morsey announcing
a Plant tuesday that will include expanding state owned facilities
and hiring more. Specialists he, says it might take a
while to get the kids.

Speaker 6 (22:13):
Home that needs to be our, goal and we need
to be very aggressive about.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
That as you.

Speaker 6 (22:19):
Have more as you have reductions in those out of state.

Speaker 11 (22:22):
Placements that's more money for investment here In West virginia
allows us to build up that workforce.

Speaker 10 (22:29):
Capacity morrisey says he'll put a bill before state lawmakers
in the upcoming a regular. Session good news from A
facebook post From State agent In General Jim sewart concerning
the improving condition of Staff Sergeant Andrew, wolf shot three
weeks ago today In, washington D.

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Speaker 10 (22:43):
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wolf is talking and going for short walks outside his
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they allegedly failed to report a classroom abuse. Case the
board voting last night in favor of the no paid
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programs Director Eric. Kafaro now former special needs teacher Keirs
To moses is charged with the abuse of autistic. Child
preliminary hearings in that case were also waived On. Tuesday
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Holidays additional criminal charges in connection with the fallout after
a murder investigation In Marion, County wheeling Attorney eljam mccardo
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Speaker 1 (24:51):
Jenkins three or Four talk three or four is the

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text line eight hundred and seven sixty five eight two five.
Five that is the phone. Number President trump is scheduled
to deliver a prime time addressed. Tonight he's gonna talk
probably a lot about what he considers his accomplishments in
his first year in. Office you'll likely also address uh
the situation With. Venezuela THE us has struck several drug

(25:40):
boats coming From, venezuela reportedly bringing drugs into The United. States,
Now President trump has ordered a complete blockade of all
sanctioned oil tankers going into and out Of. Venezuela escalating
his administration's pressure campaign Against Nicholas. Maduro Doctor Gray reynoon
is a political science professor at Form On State. University

(26:01):
he is also a retired captain in The United States.
Navy over thirty years of service as a judge, advocate
held command three, times and completed multiple. Deployments Greg noton
JOINED us Old Metro news talk. Line, Greg good, Morning
good to talk to you.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
Again good, Morning.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Dave everything ready for the. Holidays everything quiet On Fairmont
state's CAMPAS i.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Am, Yeah, well a little bit of, snow a little
bit of, cold so you, know we had some had some,
closures but everything's got wrapped. Up, Finals we're getting all our.
Grades we got all our grades, in so we're in
the clear, now all.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
RIGHT i want to pick up the conversation kind of
WHERE i left off with eb And, brown and he
pointed this, out and this is probably the biggest shift
is that previously we had dealt with terrorism and drugs
for that, matter as a law enforcement, matter But President
trump has approached this as more of a military, matter
as if we're actually at. War instead of taking drug,

(26:54):
boats arresting, them bringing those people, to you, know face criminal,
chargestrive making them as if they are enemy. Combatants this
is a major, Shift Greg.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
Yeah absolutely and uh and in one we have to
be very careful of because we all agree that that drug,
dealers drug you, know, shippers we want to eradicate them
from the earth. Right but the problem is that once
you start taking law enforcement and saying it's an armed

(27:26):
conflict and therefore you're allowed to do, more in other,
words kill them without any due, process any, trial that
that becomes problematic because the fact of the matter is
that this has been a law enforcement. Matter we have
done interdiction for a very long, time very. Successfully there's

(27:48):
a whole process that The coastguard follows with support from The,
navy where you hail a. Vessel if they don't, stop
you can fire warning. Shots if that doesn't, work you
can you can use disabling. Fire we have a special
Fifty cali sniper rifle that can take out any engine
on any boat and then visit and search those. Boats
and it's not just the people we arrest and the

(28:10):
drugs we, confiscate it's the intelligence we collect that helps
us build our build our understanding of who's who in
the zoo and what's happening out there and who we
need to go after.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Next, So, greg let me pose this question to. You
IF i mean they've been bringing drugs into the, country
drugs have been getting into the, country whether it's speed,
boats whether it's across the, border whatever the case may.
Be if that's not, working if if that tactic is not,
working should we shift to a more of a military
strategy like this or does that just open Up pandora's.

Speaker 15 (28:44):
Box, well two.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
Things first of, all most of the drugs that come
in come through ports of, Entry so they're coming in
through our legal ports of. Entry they're not coming in
through some guy's backpack swimming across The Rio. Grande so
the fact of the matter is they're coming into the
checkpoints in, vehicles often driven BY us citizens or other
people who have the legal right to entry into The United,

(29:10):
states and through these ports of entry tens of thousands of,
vehicles tens of thousands of. Pedestrians the fact of the
matter is that the drugs come into the ports of,
entry and the money and the guns go out through
the port of. Entry and the reality of it is
is our ports and entries are. Overwhelmed the economic pressure

(29:30):
on the border of police is. Immense you can't put
a truck full of you, know avocados on the side
of the road for ten hours because then people are
going to complain they can't get. Avocados so, there AND
i know that sounds like a tright, example but that's
exactly the pressure they. Face is the is this produce

(29:50):
coming across the border and other people seeking into their.
Vehicles so that is a legitimate. Problem but by solving
by blowing up boats in the middle of The caribbean
is really not the way to do it because mainly
we're losing our ability to collect intelligence of the guys we.

(30:12):
Capture be coupled with the fact That i'll just have
to say, You venezuela is not where fentanyl's coming, from
and the drugs coming out Of venezuela are going to
The caribbean islands and going off To. Europe the cocaine
that comes in THE us is coming From. Colombia so
if we want to take that, approach we're in the
wrong ocean. Altogether, Secondly china produces, fentanyl and The chinese

(30:36):
fentanyl mainly is going Into mexico and again coming. In
LIKE i said to the ports Of entry.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Talking To Greg, Dune Fairmont State university political science, professor
the president has ordered a blockade Of. Venezuela, greg just
going off memory, here can you remember or can can the?
PRESIDENT i guess he can order a. Blockade we're not
at a state of, war and that's generally when that
would be, used as far AS i.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
Understand, yeah so many legal issues. Here so a blockade
is technically an active. War that's why during The cuban missile,
crisis the Famous State department legal Advisor Abe, chase WHO
i met many years, ago he came up with the
phrase that we weren't blockaded In, cuba we were putting
a quarantine around. Them and SO i know that sounds like,

(31:23):
semantics but the reality of it is that a blockade
is an active. War so we're getting into a lot
of legal issues. Here because now if you're going into
any type of wartime, footing then The War Powers resolution
kicks in and the president needs to be consulting With
congress because Only congress can declare an active. War Only
congress can declare. War but if you're going to do a,

(31:46):
blockade the rules to a, blockade it has to be
effective and. Partial you have to you have to allow
humanitarian constraints go, through you have to respect neutral. Vessels
now he said that it's only on this sanctioned oil,
tankers which changes it a little, bit which doesn't really
make it a. Blockade it looks more like a sanctions

(32:09):
law enforcement. Enforcement. Okay so again this mix of, words
and this is what you get when you do when you,
do you, know things by. Tweet these mix of words
being all thrown. In it really creates difficulties for us because,
Look americans is going to be sitting here listening to

(32:29):
me talking right, now go blah blah, blah legal who.
Cares the reality of it is is everything we do
will come home in the use against. Us reciprocity is
the key to international. Law anything we, do someone else
is going to do it and we'll be on the
receiving end of.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
It talking To Greg, Noon Fairmount State university Of Local, Science,
PROFESSOR i want to go back to what you just,
said the muddying of the, wording because you get a
truth social post and obviously we pick up on that
in the news media that gets put out, there and
then there's the actual lead goal wording of what's. HAPPENING
i know we can get that's getting into the, minutia
but that adds to the, confusion that adds to the

(33:07):
chaos that we talk about that comes with with The
trump administration one hundred.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
Percent and it is. Problematic this isn't just a problem
for the. Lawyers it's a problem for all of. Us
let's go to the tanker feesire, right it's it's we
don't really understand why and what what everything went around
with why we see that Tanker if we're saying that
tanker is moving sanctioned, oil got. It but the administration

(33:33):
needs to get out front and say this is why
we seize the. Tanker under international, law we have a
right of visit and international waters of any vessel we
suspect of flying a false. Flag if we don't know
the vessel's, nationality we have a right to approach and
we have a right to right to. Visit and that's
a fancy we are saying we can board it with guns.

(33:53):
Drawn and the fact of the matter is that the
information coming out is that That venezuela's vessel was falsely
flying A kean and. Flag that's something that we can
take action. On that's that all puts us on good legal.
Footing but when we just do it with this kind
of this macho approach of we can do whatever we,
want we're we're hurting ourselves in our when we do

(34:15):
have a good legal, case we're diminishing our ability to
shape that legal.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Case this sounds like a crazy question in my, head
But i'm going to pose it to. You is The
Trump administration's biggest problem the communication, Part, Greg, like like
you just laid. Out if you lay that out, there
we seize this. Tanker here's, why here's our legal grounds to.

Speaker 16 (34:34):
Do.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
So i'm not going to say that diffuses everything or
that absolves you from, criticism but it diffuses some goes.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
A long, Way dave and And and the fact of
the matter is that The trump, administration and that's what
some people love about, it, Right they love the they
love the chaos and the the the dis organization of.
It but the reality of it is is that there
needs to be a message that's put forward so people
can understand in, it not just not just The american
people who deserve to understand, it not Just, congress whose

(35:05):
role it is to, be you, know kind of overseeing
this but also our friends and allies around the. World
we need to lay out the legal. Argument you, know
they're all, saying, right everyone hates, lawyers but they love their.
Lawyer what the what the administration needs is a good
lawyer who can who can articulate the legal case and
say this is why this, happened and and then and

(35:27):
we believe we're a good legal. Footing and oftentimes you
don't do. That they just kind of take us approach
that we did it because we, can and that's not good.
Enough that then may that may satisfy some, quarters but
that's really not going to help The United states in
the long.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Run really going to try to throw you a curveball.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
Here.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Uh Evan, brown WHEN i was talking to, him mentioned
The monroe. Doctrine The President trump likes The monroe. Doctrine
can you explain that in a short?

Speaker 4 (35:53):
Version you, Know dave at my baseball career didn't last
that long BECAUSE i couldn't hit curve. Balls but the
fact that doesn't matter, is, yeah The monroe doctrine is
this idea that we own The western hemisphere and.

Speaker 11 (36:05):
Foreign countries cannot interfere in The Western. Hemisphere and that
is something that's some administration. Likes in, fact they just
set up A Western hemisphere. Commands you, know the concern
among the thinkers out there is that Basically trump sees
the world split up into Three russian sphere of, Control

(36:25):
chinese sphere of, control in THE us sphere of, control
and things that he's doing align with that theory of
what his worldview. Is AND i have to tell you
it's a very dangerous. Worldview this idea of, isolationism even
if it's just The western hemisphere as opposed to just THE.
Us the idea of isolationism is done naive belief that

(36:49):
things that happen overseas will not end up on your.
Shores so one of the reasons why the world has
for the most part been a pretty safe place in
the last eighty years After World War two is because
OF us leadership in the, world because of the strength OF,
nato because of the strength of international law and. Order

(37:09):
The United states benefits from international, Order china Seeing, russia
benefits from chaos in the international, sphere And china pretends
to want, order but they cheat at every. Turn so
the fact of matter is the overwhelming majority of countries
in the world WANT us leadership and want that leadership

(37:31):
to enforce that order so we can all benefit, economically
so we can benefit through the rule of, law so
that we can benefit from human. Rights the fact of
matter is by this kind of idea of, oh let's
break up the world into, three we're not dealing with ethical.
Actors putin and g are not the people who want

(37:52):
to be in bed WITH i much want to be
in bed with The European union and a lot of
other allies around the world who have similar our, cultural,
Religious western values of of what The United, states how
we're found and what we believe, in and not The
Vladimir putins and not the disease of the world and

(38:13):
The Chinese Communist.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Party Femont State University political science professor Retired Navy Captain Greg.
Noon greg always appreciate the. Perspective thanks for coming on
and we'll talk to you, again maybe next, year maybe
before the end of the, year who.

Speaker 4 (38:26):
Knows, Yeah, dave thanks so much and having A Merry
christmas to you and everyone at the. Station you guys
do great. Work thank, You thank you very.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Much Merry, Christmas Happy holidays to you as. Well we'll
get your thoughts next three or four talk three four
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the text line at eight hundred and seven. Sixty five
talk is the. Phone number text Line evidence trump Is a.
Russian asset Trump thinks russia is a sphere. Of influence
russia can't Even, conquer ukraine a country. It borders How
is russia going to project power if it can't control,
its neighbor Asks, The texter, love Love love what he
is saying referring to the, Previous Guest greg noon uh

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three or four talk three? O Four professor greg reminds
me of why IN college i wised up and left
political science idiocy and instead majored, in economics which has
a basis. In reality this is a case. Of misdirection
what is the government really doing while this is? Going
On maybe greg would like to look at the fact

(44:00):
that our nation has been on high alert over international
smuggling of nuclear materials the last year. Or two there
have been national security memorandums in news coverage. Of this
these interdictions are more of a national security situation than
is being let on to for immediate. Public Digestion United
States coast guard does it right blowing up? A boat

(44:22):
there would be a huge fish kill in the immediate
area overdose of the two crewmen three or four talk three.
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Have?

Speaker 1 (44:34):
Time jim keep it pretty, Quick, Here, jim.

Speaker 22 (44:40):
Hey the guy who's on there was talking about how
we do a really good job of interrediction with drug
drugs being. Smuggled in tell that to the eighty eight
to ninety thousand people that overdose last year in. Our
country i'm not for them blowing up these boats because
some of these people are forced to bring these boats
over to. Our, COUNTRY however i am against drugs coming into.

(45:04):
Our country in eighty one thousand to ninety thousand people dying.
Per years that's a number that we should be basing
off of how WE handled covid shutting down. The country
everybody should be. Carrying narcan the other thing that, that
too is there's no money in getting rid of addiction.
And homelessness once you, do that all these organizations that,
get funded they no, longer exist and people who make

(45:27):
money off this no. Longer exist they they don't want
to fix drug addiction. And Homelessness that's.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
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On monday when Does your, i'm curious this happens. Every
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A release we are getting more and more announcements from
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(48:47):
lewis Gilmer And. Calhoun Counties of queen is Currently The
Senate Republican caucus chair and a member Of The Senate,
finance committee so he will be running for reelection in twenty.
Twenty six one of the interesting races that we may
Have in november and the general election could be in
The Thirteenth state senate district that is Part of Montingelia And.

(49:09):
Marion Counties Republican Senator mike oliverio has announced he is
running for. A reelection he made that announcement earlier. This,
month Yesterday a democrat announced that he would run for
that Thirteenth district. Senate seat He Is john williams currently
serves In the House of delegates representing Part Of, montingelia
county and he joins Us On metro News talk line. This,
Morning john, good morning thanks for.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
Joining, us, Yeah, THANKS dave i.

Speaker 15 (49:33):
APPRECIATE it i typically start winding Down for christmas, about
now But obviously yesterday's kind of. Changed That so i'll
just have to Wait for festivis here in a few
days on the, twenty third and then it's. Home free.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
From, there well we can have the airing. OF greed
i think if we had more airing of grievances and
maybe even feats, of strength we could get a lot
more settled out. THE legislature i think.

Speaker 15 (49:53):
SO too i think that's just a matter of discussion
and trying to reach across the isle and get. That done, All.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Right john you've served In the House of delegates. Several
terms now why do you want to take the next
step and run For The. State?

Speaker 15 (50:05):
Senate, YEAH SO i i see in my community and
in North Central west virginia the same issues that people
are talking about around the country about affordability and a
diminishing middle class and with that, diminishing opportunity and those
are ISSUES that i fought for In the House. Of

(50:25):
delegates when it comes to this seat And The state senate,
right now it's it's just my belief that being able
to be In the senate and having your your vote
count for a little more, over THERE maybe I can
i can put that that advocating for for the middle
class to. Better use AND so i want to continue

(50:47):
to serve, my, people uh the people that that inspire
me to do. This work, my teachers the KIDS that
i grew up with through are, out there families struggling
with daycare payments and paying. THE mortgage i want to keep,
doing THAT and i want to do it in.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
The state john in The state democrats Here In, west
virginia which there are a few went On The kitchen
table tour over the last. Several months you were part.
Of that what did you hear? From people what were
they telling you were?

Speaker 24 (51:15):
Their, priorities yeah so it's it's really interesting you you
do get some sort of different answers depending on the
part of the state that.

Speaker 15 (51:24):
You're IN and i think one of the best things
about the tour was going into two pretty rural parts
of the state and, IN candidly, i think, you know
my COLLEAGUES and i after leaving some of, those places, you,
know yeah this is great to hear these issues and
and maybe learning more about this will help us do

(51:44):
better In Rural, west virginia something that that is a
party we have to do because so many of our
people are In Rural west virginia, quite frankly. We don't
we don't think that their their needs are being. In
it we do think we could do a. Better job
and so that was that was great to hear. From
them and then the sort of binding message across every

(52:08):
single stop. IS affordability, i mean you have people who
are so concerned with increasing costs essentially, on everything big,
ticket items small. Ticket items CHILDCARE is i mean childcare
because of childcare is breathtaking for folks who have never paid,

(52:28):
for childcare it's. Incredibly expensive and you add to that
folks getting your health insurance packets a month or so
ago and seeing that their plan went up and priced
by eighty two. Hundred dollars they're going to have the
LACK of aca subsidies coming down the. Pike here those

(52:51):
are going to be more than the thousands of dollars
that people are going to. Be feeling so they're just being.
Pressured everywhere and that's a common teams. Among everything and
to tie it, ALL together pia is another huge one
that we hear about it certainly in terms of. Health
insurance if there's anything with health insurance since within the

(53:12):
purview Of The west. Virginia legislature it's helping TO control,
theeia costs SOMETHING that i haven't seen in my, ten
years But certainly i've.

Speaker 9 (53:22):
Advocated Field john williams.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Joining us he's currently a Delegate For, montingae county announced
yesterday he would run for The state senate in the
thirteenth district that Is basically Morgantown down ice seventy nine
And including fairmont There In. Marion county john that district
particularly has a ton of potential. Economic Potential montague county

(53:45):
obviously is one of the few counties that is experiencing
some Growth In. West virginia you look AT that i
seventy nine corridor where you have the. Technology corridor Obviously
in morgantown YOU'VE, got wvu the two. Hospital systems is
this area reach its? FULL potential.

Speaker 15 (54:02):
I don't think that. It IS and i THINK since
i first really got involved and really started, paying attention
maybe as a as a twenty two year old to local,
CURRENT events i GUESS maybe i was more of a
nerdy twenty two year old, than most but that's. ANOTHER
discussion i think that there was way more, potential economically

(54:24):
and we were being talked about as this, bright spot
not just in the state but in. The country and
then you look around and we've kind of been stopped
dead in our Tracks With mylon, Beatrice closing we've had
layoffs at the university a couple of, years ago and
all of, a sudden we're starting. To stagnate and then

(54:47):
you have a subsequent activity that there's going to be
supposed to losing their jobs in the federal government on
seventy nine in the. Tech corridor AND so i think
that we've kind of reached a pivotal point where we
look around, And, say okay is this where we want,
To stay is this what we want to just kind

(55:08):
of do, right here or do you still believe in
that dream of twenty ten to twenty fourteen where we
look like a community on. The RISE and i think
a lot of that is really big. TICKET issues, I
mean i think if you had try to share the,
childcare issues if you had that in the State Of,

(55:30):
WEST virginia i think you have a ton of employers
that would be interested, in that, because again childcare is
such a big issue that that motivates a candidate for
a job to work for a company that helps make,
us competitive and so there are all these small economic
development tweets here and there that we can make sure

(55:50):
that'll help. Bring, Jobs maybe but at the end of,
the day we need to not be afraid, of big
bold solutions that include, out care making utility rates less
expensive so that we can make this an attractive place.
To LIVE and i don't always know that if you bring,
the company people. Will come but maybe you bring the

(56:12):
people and make it attractive and the. Company follows Soon.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
Thereafter Jondigue County Delegate john williams announcing he will run
for The state senates in twenty. Twenty, six john nobody
gets into a political race if they don't believe or
are if they're not confident they. Can win so what
gives you confidence that in a deeply, read state a
State That president trump, won overwhelmingly a state in which

(56:36):
there are Two current democrat, senators serving that you can
win in the.

Speaker 24 (56:42):
Thirteenth, DISTRICT well I guess i just look at my,
track Record and i'm in, This context i'm not even
speaking specifically about my track record and, the legislature but
just my ability to talk to folks and meet him where.

Speaker 15 (56:58):
THEY are i was on a program you're talking about,
a CAMPAIGN and i don't think that a campaign should
just be a one way street where a candidate is
out talking. AT people i like to Think that i'm a.
GOOD listener i Do think i'm a, good LISTENER and
i want to get out and see what issues concerned,
and again the problems that the middle class, is facing

(57:21):
those are ISSUES that i have advocated for for. Ten
years those are ISSUES that i will discuss for the
next eleven months throughout. The campaign, and also this district
is really one that could have gone the other way,
last time could have been, very DIFFERENT and i think,

(57:42):
This year I'm just i'm going to do EVERYTHING that
i can to meet every single person in The thirteenth
district and run a positive campaign and an issues. Based
campaign and Typically when i'm able to, Do that i'm
able to win and then get in there and work for.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
My People, John Williams Montague. County delegate we'll be running
for A state senate in. Twenty six put your delegate
hat back on as we ramp up toward the, legislative
session which starts less than a month. From, now john
less than a month, from now what will be? Your
priorities what will Be the democrat party's priorities going into.

Speaker 15 (58:16):
This, session yeah so we're going to be doing a lot.
With utilities there's so much activity around utilities. RIGHT now
i want to really look at what's going to happen
with these transmission lines and. Data centers is that what

(58:36):
effect is that having on, our communities but also on.
Utility rates we are going to run a variety of
bills again focus. On childcare i'm going to run, my
BILL but i HAVE run i believe every Session since
i've been in, the legislature which is a cost of
living increase to every state worker into. Every retiree so

(59:02):
you saw an announcement there's plans in the works to
give state employees. A raised well, that's great but inflation
has been so crazy these past few years that raise
is going to be coming a, little late and it's
probably not going to cover the amount of inflation that
has taken place since their. Last raise and so that's
what you have within state employee contract is we're always

(59:26):
catching up behind and push and the gap actually just widened.
And widened SO what i would seek to do is
to have that cost of living adjustment built in there
so that we establish what a living wage is and
so called real dollars for a state employee and then
establish that and then the nominal dollars can track the

(59:47):
consumer price index to ensure that people have the same
purchasing power that we deemed fair five years ago when we.
Enacted it so that's that's going to be a big priority.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Of, mine john, Excuse Me, John Williams Montague. County elliott
he'll be running Four state senate in twenty twenty six
and that thirteenth district Against a, Republican Incumbent, mike calaverario
who announced earlier this month he'll be seeking re election to. That,
seat john we appreciate you. Coming on we'll see you
out At the capitol here in a.

Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
Few, Weeks, THANKS dave i appreciate.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
It Absolutely, John Williams montaguer county delegate running For STATE
senate i mentioned at the beginning of, the segment also
got a release today an Announcement That Senator, ben queen
who represents Parts, Of, Harrison gilmer Calhoun And Taylor, lewis
counties don't want to leave everybody, out there he will
be seeking reelection. As well tis the season you start

(01:00:37):
to get. These announcements the FILING period i believe starts
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(01:04:40):
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(01:05:00):
shelter for homeless individuals in THE l. Lgbtq community although anyone,
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(01:05:23):
investigation but that wasn't even the part of the story
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a little nugget in that story that nine to, one
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(01:05:45):
first responders had been Dispatched To project rainbow this year
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to a Bar On high Street, in morgantown it'd be,
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Dealt WITH and i started to go back, and look

(01:06:09):
this was not the only incident with this. Particular Shelter
The Montague county commission had entered a letter into, the
record reportedly from a, former employee that made allegations of,
drug use, drug dealing that there were, no guardrails clients
were not being encouraged to take, their medication there was
no medical or health professional consultations at. That facility and

(01:06:35):
it's a noble idea that if you eliminate barriers for
homeless individuals in particular who have probably been jaded or
probably better at, the system that if you eliminate, these
barriers you can get people into shelter and then you
can start to work on those, other issues whether that's, drug,
use alcoholism whatever, the problem mental, health issues whatever that,

(01:06:56):
may be it's a. Noble, gesture unfortunately in this case
it seems that they have taken that to the. Nth
degree and in, this case eliminating the barriers is erecting,
a barrier and that barrier is the fact that there are,
no guardrails there are, no guidelines and what ends up
happening is a self. Destructive lifestyle you are actually exacerbating

(01:07:21):
the problem by facilitating a self, destructive lifestyle and that
seems to be. THE case i spoke with sources this
Morning In. Montingelia county this is just the tip of.
The iceberg there are other accusations around. This place folks
who live near it have reached out to local leaders
and described other actions that are. Going ON and i

(01:07:45):
don't want to get myself into too much, trouble here
but there are lots, Of accusations there are lots of.
Concerns here and what's the problem that there are. No
guardrails you can have the most noble intention of breaking
down those barriers to get people. Into shelter everybody deserves.
Some shelter nobody deserves to sleep out on, The street

(01:08:06):
nobody DESERVES that i get, that idea but by removing
any sort, of guardrails any sort, of guidelines you are
facilitating a self, destructive lifestyle and that is not helping.
The problem that only makes the, problem worse because now
not only do you have the people who may or
may not, need help you've got actors who will prey.

(01:08:28):
Upon that and that seems to be what is going on,
four hundred four hundred and. Eighty Eight first at times
first responders had to be dispatched to, one location any
other location would be. Shut down that'd be a. Public,
nuisance yes you can have the best, of intentions and
yes you can still be part of. The issue if

(01:08:49):
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To Fox News Radios jonathan savage for the latest on
the investigation into the terror Attack in Australia At. Bondai,
beach jonathan. Good morning what's? The latest.

Speaker 19 (01:12:56):
Good morning we'll know we have charges filed against the,
Surviving Suspect, navid akram the twenty four year old who
was shot by police in the aftermath of the Shooting
On bondai Beach, In sydney Australia. On sunday, His Father,
sugi akram was shot and died of, the scene so the.
Younger suspect he has been in a coma for. Several

(01:13:18):
days upon waking from, the coma police laid charges fifty
nine offenses he's been, charged with including fifteen charges. Of,
murder also he's accused of forty counts of causing harm
with intent, to murder placing an explosive near, a building
and also committing a.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
Terrorist, ACT jonathan i saw where investigators are looking into
a trip To. The philippines why are they looking? Into, that.

Speaker 19 (01:13:44):
Yes it has emerged that the, two men the father
and son spent almost the Entirety of november In the
philippines and they are going to be looking into what
they were. Doing there there are Reports in australia which
suggests that they're looking into whether not the two men
received terrorist training while they were In. The philippines has
been described AS an isis inspired. Terrorist ATTACK an icis

(01:14:09):
flag was found on the men's car near, the scene
and the younger suspect was six years ago put under
he was being observed by the security services for links
to other individuals. Of concern the part Of the philippines
they went to has in recent years been the site

(01:14:31):
of his, mystic extremism and they're putting the joining these
dots together and trying to figure out if this paints
a very. Suspicious Picture Fox.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
News Radios jonathan savage. Joining, US jonathan i was reading
some reports from some Of the jewish community there who
were part of or not part of, the attack but
were victimized in. The attack we're ducking. For cover they
had criticism for. Law enforcement what's been the. Fallout, there.

Speaker 19 (01:14:58):
Yeah there's been a lot of Criticism, in australia particularly
for government and security services for not heeding warnings. Of
violence there has been really a wave Of anti, semitic
attacks Particularly in Sydney, and melbourne Two of australia's, largest
cities over the past year eighty five Percent Of australia's

(01:15:18):
jewish population that lives in one of those. Two cities
there have been issue instances of graffiti on, people's houses
there have been cars, and, synagogues torchs people attacked in,
the street verbally assaulted in the street, as well and
they have been calling for greater protection and for tougher
action against people who may be Committing anti, semitic acts

(01:15:41):
or Threatening anti, semitic acts or even just Using anti
semitic language on.

Speaker 22 (01:15:46):
Social media.

Speaker 19 (01:15:47):
For Example the israeli government has also Taken the australian
government's a task for. Not Acting The Australian Prime Minister
anthony albanian said that he will do all he can
to stamp out Antisemitism. In australia has he laid out.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
ANY specifics i know he has mentioned tighter gun restrictions There,
in australia but any specifics on how to deal with
anti semitism there Not.

Speaker 19 (01:16:10):
Particularly no he's all he said is that he will
take whatever government action is needed to Stampa. Anti semitism
we don't have anything in particular that is, being tabled,
for examples the potential Law, in parliament and that is
in contrast to the changes to gun laws which he
has already proposed in the short days since this. Horristic

(01:16:33):
massacre he's proposed restricting gun Ownership to australian citizens and
limiting the number of weapons that a person, can hold
in part because it emerged that the older of the
two suspects owned six.

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Weapons Legally Fox News Radios, Jonathan, savage jonathan thank you for.
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FOUR day i personally don't think data centers are a
great long term. Economic driver we have a so called

(01:17:07):
conservative legislature. And governor how about lowering taxes, on Businesses
Make west virginia the easiest place to set up a
business and make, a profit and stop the flow of
drugs into, our state says. THE texture i think the
governor would agree with the second part of. That text,
in fact the governor has said that in various. MEDIA

(01:17:29):
briefings i believe he said something to that extent In
his state Of the state address last year as an
inaugural address, as Well Making west virginia easier to do. Business,
IN yeah i agree, With you and there's still, a
PUSH and i don't know if we will see something
this session or not to do away with the personal
property tax and the tax, on business the business tax.

(01:17:52):
On inventory there's still. That push so there are those
who want to make, those THINGS and i think we
are going, to see at least On the. HOUSE site
i don't know what to expect out Of the senate yet.
This year and You heard amelia nicely back in the
first hour kind of say the. Same Thing the senate is.
The Wildcard the House of delegates at least seems to

(01:18:13):
be laser focused as we talk Here on. December seventeenth
laser focused on, economic development growing, the economy expanding the,
labor force, growing jobs addressing those issues or addressing what
issues the. Legislature, can now what Will the? Senate do
we don't. Know that that's the wildcard going into this.

(01:18:34):
Legislative Session Data centers data centers are interesting because they
can provide crucial tax revenue and they don't take a
Lot of they don't take a lot. Of expense AND
what i mean by that is you don't. You're not

(01:18:55):
it's not a labor INTENSIVE and i know it's going
to create a, few jobs but it is going to.
Create revenue there is going to be a lot. To
tax when it comes to, data CENTERS and i think
there are some. IDEAL locations, i mean we have former strip, mind,
sites right what else are you going to? Put there
you could put a protected. DATA center i think there

(01:19:16):
are some. Ideal locations maybe not next to a, ski
RESORT but i think there are some ideal locations for
these types. Of developments and they are, game changers and
there are going to be people who are opposed. TO
them i, Get that they're going to be people that.
WANT them i, Get that but you look around the
country where these things have been developed and they have

(01:19:37):
been positive. Economic drivers are they going to be? Around,
forever well, nothing is but it absolutely could be a
major source of revenue for the state and we. NEED that,
i mean we just talked about that in the. First
hour when it comes to, child, welfare system whether we're talking,
about peia whether we're talking about making certain teachers and

(01:19:59):
public employees are being paid, a wage a, competitive wage
keeping up, with inflation keeping up with the cost, of living.
Et cetera so THAT'S where i think those could. Be advantageous.
Do IT do i want one in? My backyard of?
Course not? Do you of? Course not are there some, Ideal, locations,
yes certainly certainly in counties that also in counties that

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any BETTER when, i, hear well we were. Expecting that
but the buck harvest Down In west virginia this, past
fall this, past fall it was just a couple of.
WEEKS ago i can attest. TO that i did get,
A Deer chris lawrence Joins This Metro News morning News
And Metro. NEWS outdoors i did get, A, buck chris
but that was only the SECOND deer i saw. That
day so. Not surprised the numbers.

Speaker 13 (01:24:23):
Are, down yeah and going into, THIS year i think
everybody kind of saw this come in because the masked
Crop Across west virginia was, so good well hard, masked
anyway as far as acorns and the chief food sources
of deer was so plentiful that theays weren't going to
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(01:24:47):
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Their best but they weren't having to go out in.

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(01:25:23):
western counties of, the state and that definitely played into it.
As well, in fact some of those counties Along The,
ohio River like Jackson, and wood the deer there were
down half as much as they were. Last year, in
fact In Your Native, PLEASANTS county i noticed that it
was only a third of what they normally.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
Kill THERE so i.

Speaker 13 (01:25:46):
Had heard now they do say too that everybody has
it in their mind that all the deer died of.
The disease that's not. The case but since so many
people had, that ATTITUDE the D and r as, suspect
DID and i believe they were correct and suspecting that
a lot of guys just, didn't hunt, thinking that, YOU
know i don't want to kill what's still There and

(01:26:07):
i'm probably not going to see, one Anyways so i'm
going to adjust and go hunt somewhere else. This year
so a lot of people just chose not to hunt.
THOSE counties i think.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
You're right about the second part. Of that but speaking
to Guys In pleasants county and as far as walking,
the woods myself and dad out on, the farm there
was almost. No sign, you know you can go across
the you can see where they've got the hills. Torn
up you can always find, buck rubs you can always.
Find scrapes very little sign. This year and there were

(01:26:36):
guys who talked that we talked to who had been
walking and this, Is, anecdotal chris so take up for what,
it's worth but had been walking during fall during, both
season had come across dozens dozens of carcasses out in.
The woods so again that's, anecdotal evidence but that's evidence
kind of everything you said that you had, the disease
and you had, people, GOING hey i don't want to
decimate The population i've got left on.

Speaker 13 (01:26:57):
Right Property and I've had, I've said i've gotten the.
Same stories people just constantly bombarding me with emails and
messages on social media about you know what you just
said that they were finding dead deer all over the
PROPERTY and i, were talking, you know big trophy bucks
dead on their property that, you know is heartbreaking. To
see but THE, DN r i can only report what,

(01:27:23):
they said and those were their reasons going into the
season that they thought it would, be down and it was,
down significantly about eighteen and a half percent below what
it was, last year the total kill across. The State
and i'm pretty sure that that's the first Time since
i've been doing THIS that i remember the top ten
counties were west of the mountains or we're on The western,

(01:27:45):
i'm sorry the eastern side of. The, state yeah and
along the The eastern pinantle and Along the virginia.

Speaker 1 (01:27:50):
Border there what.

Speaker 13 (01:27:51):
Was the number One was preston the number, One county
they were. Number Two greenbrier county was, Number One.

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
Greenbrier, county yeah we're the. Big bucks stood Don In.

Speaker 13 (01:28:00):
Logan, county well, of Course, Well, Logan mingo wyoming. And McDowell,
number one you can only kill one. Down there, number
two you have to kill it with. A bow at,
number three have you ever hunted? Down there that is
severe terrain. Down there so if you're gonna hunt, down
there you've got to you got to really want to
be where. Those Are so.

Speaker 1 (01:28:21):
I'll, Say this chris climbing the Steps At laidley field
last weekend. WAS enough i don't KNOW that i want
to tackle. The terrain Logan, AND mingo.

Speaker 13 (01:28:28):
I didn't even. DO that i had no need to
go to the. Press Box so, I'm like. I'm good
i'm good right here on. The ground so what's?

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
Coming up what's? Coming up saturday morning at.

Speaker 13 (01:28:38):
Seven o'clock, You know i'm Going to i'm going to
put the show into the hands of. THE listeners i
do this now, and Then but i'm almost always do
It before CHRISTMAS because i think it's, YOU know, i
mean anybody that WOULD that i could get to be
on the show to talk, About anything they're probably going
to be off and wanted to be with. Their FAMILY
so i just opened up the phone lines and let

(01:29:00):
people call in and we talk about, number one did
you get? It here or what was your experience? This
YEAR but i also like to hear what was the
best Outdoors related christmas gift you got as a child?
Growing up and that usually turns into a oh, nostalgic
moments and then, you know we get somebody starts talking
and the next thing, you know it triggers a memory
for somebody else who calls and. Shares that and then

(01:29:22):
suddenly within an hour you've got about four calls holding
that you just don't have time left.

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
To take so hopefully that's how it will. Work, Out
uh i'll tell, you mine cause well it's. My show
i'll tell. You mine you can do whatever. You, want
yeah a twenty two CHIPMUNK that i GOT when i
was five. Years old my papa got it. For, me
yeah against my mother's best of, wishes there, you know
getting a five year old and, you know not a, Baby,
Gun chris this is a twenty. Two chipmunk it's about.

(01:29:48):
That big it's the. Real thing it's the. Real deal
and that was my that was my. First gun that
was you KNOW started i thought you had to kill
chipmunks with. It TOO when i was you, know five
but THAT'S what i went scroll, hunting with and that
that one's still in the case. At.

Speaker 13 (01:30:01):
HOME anyway i have a similar story was It was.
CHRISTMAS morning i had no IDEA that i was. GETTING
it i had been hunting with an old single shot
that was passed down from my. GREAT grandfather i think
it might have even been used to shoot somebody in
an argument over the farm at. One point it might

(01:30:22):
actually be supposedly evidence in. A crime but that Was
what that was the GUN that i used to kill
my first squirrel. And rabbit and it was. WORN out
i mean it's literally the stock is. Taped UP but
i was happy. With it and the next thing, YOU
know i walked downstairs and There's.

Speaker 1 (01:30:37):
A it's not.

Speaker 13 (01:30:37):
Brand new it was a Pre owned ithaca twelve gage,
single shot but It had it was an odd looking
gun because, the breakdown the way you broke it down,
to load it looked like a lever. Action rifle AND
so i still have THAT and. I. HUNTED gosh i
hunted with that all the way up TO when i
got married and my wife bought me a pump.

Speaker 1 (01:30:59):
SHOT gun. I love if you go through our, our
case everyone they've all got. A story this, one was,
You know, papaul's gun and this one was. His granddad and, this,
one oh this is the one we used to kill.
That deer they each have a story, to TELL and i.
LOVE that i love that.

Speaker 13 (01:31:17):
About this my son has more GUNS than i. Don't
know he's got a ton. Of guns he. Collects them
he just he wants one. Of everything but his rule
is when he, buys one he wants to kill a deer,
with it and then he'll put, it away and then
and then he'll and then he'll move on to the
name one deer, PER gun i guess is the way

(01:31:37):
he looks.

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
At it so that'll be coming up Seven, O'clock saturday.
Monriday Morning, all, Right, hey chris appreciate you jumping on on.

Speaker 13 (01:31:44):
Short notice by, The, Way Well i'm i'm glad we
pulled it off BECAUSE technically i don't know how to
get on, your SHOW so i had to. Get, help
well A New dave allen, Was there And If dave,
allen's involved nothing can. Go wrong it Just Around. Metro
news if you've got, a problem look, For. IT dave,
i mean if you sling a dead cat, around here
you'll hit one, Pretty, Much chris, thank. You buddy appreciate, It,

(01:32:06):
Right dave see, All, right chris.

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