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Quite the busy Monday morning airstrikes carried out over Iran
this weekend, hitting nuclear facilities. We'll get into that reaction
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Speaker 1 (01:15):
Good morning, Welcome into the program. Metro News Talk Line
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with TJ in me and we can have a discussion
here on the program. You can also text us three
or four talk three oh four. Well, I have some
open opportunities for you to weigh in on the big
story over the weekend, and that is the air strikes
that were carried out over Iran on the nuclear sites,
those B two's dropping the bunker buster bombs. Good morning, TJ.

(01:58):
I was relaxing at a Saturday night, had been out
working outside all day watching the college World Series, and
then this news broke and well, obviously my attention got
diverted away from baseball, realizing the enormity of the moment.

Speaker 5 (02:14):
Yeah, so I was actually out picking up pizza. My
kids wanted pizza on Saturday night, and so that came
across the phone. There the alerts from the various news
services started to watch, and you know, a lot of thoughts.
I remember though, as a very young man, Dave, you
probably do as well. I remember, and this is back
in the old days when it was the networks right,

(02:34):
and they would break into the programming. Cable news was
kind of new. It wasn't CNN was around. That was
about it. But remember back when the first golf war,
and they flashed up and they came on the ABC, CBS,
all the anchors like you had broke, all Jennings, all
those guys, and they were bringing the coverage to you.
I kind of harkened back in my mind a little bit.
It almost kind of felt like that kind of a

(02:55):
deal with us in a rank again. But clearly, you
know what an operation. I was thinking about this. I
don't know if I recall in the last fifteen years
such a military operation on behalf of the United States
undertaken at this level, and you and I kind of
called it inadvertently on Friday, I remember we were talking

(03:17):
about it the opening of the show. So it was
a surreal weekend. Lots of news about this, lots to
get to. I will say, the market is relatively shugged.
They're just okay, fine, they're not really affected by it.
This morning price of oil had went up to about
eighty two a barrel. It's down now again in the
high seventies. The market betting that Iran will do anything

(03:37):
with the Strait of Hormuz. So you know, we'll see
what happens there.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
We'll get into So there's a couple of ways. There
are multiple ways to view what happened over the weekend.
One is with the military perspective. We're going to get
into that momentarily a little bit later in the show.
Robert Bolton, friend of the show, Fremont, Fremont State political
science professor will join us. There are the political ramifications
both home and abroad. You're talking about the markets. What

(04:02):
will Iran do?

Speaker 5 (04:04):
It has to do.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
I would think it feels compelled to do something. How
are other governments, China, Russia? How are they viewing all this?
How does that all play into it. We'll get into
all that with Robert coming up in the second hour.
As you mentioned DJ. From a military perspective, what an operation.
You have the DECOYB twos flying west that catches everybody's attention,

(04:26):
allows the main envoy headed east fly in undetected carry
out the mission. Not even a single anti aircraft munition
was fired from Iran. They had no idea those things
were up in the air. An absolute stunning military operation.
Colonel William Dunn is retired Marine colonel, had a distinguished

(04:47):
career in the United States Marine. He was a pilot
who served the US with honor and distinction. He is
now an author, and he now joins us on Metro
News talk line this morning. Colonel Dunn, good morning, Good morning,
y all doing today, doing really well. I want to
talk about this military operation. It fascinates me that such
a sophisticated operation can be carried out with such precisions.

(05:12):
So kind of pull the curtain back for us. When
does training begin for a mission like this? It couldn't
have started on Thursday. These guys had to have been
working at it. So pull the curtain back for us
a little bit.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
Well, the train, that's a great question. The training is continuous.
And basically the thing that I would love for every
American to realize is, even though this was an amazing mission,
this is the expectation every pilot that flew that mission
fully expected. In my mind, I don't know them, you know,
I haven't talked to them, but knowing and have done

(05:48):
similar missions on much smaller scales. I'm a cover pilot,
so much smaller scale than this. But every pilot trains
to do these missions all the time. And if you
notice they were talking, the Joint Chief was talking about
a minimum communication throughout the flight. We practice, and many

(06:09):
pilots still practice. We call them m CON launches where
everything is by hand signal, and everything is by time
you take off. When you have to do certain radio switches,
you switch them automatically, and the expectation is is that
every pilot should be able to hit their target wherever
it is, at the specific time, and it literally goes back.

(06:33):
If you're dropping your bomb at five PM, then it
goes all the way back to the second that you
hit the switch to release it. That's the precision that
these pilots planned and executed this mission, and it should
be the expectation for every American that that's what your
military is doing. That's what we're doing. And I would
guarantee you that right now, all the pilots that flew

(06:57):
this mission, you know there was one hundred and seventy
planes or on hundred twenty five planes, I guess every
one of those pilots right now is planning for their
next mission, and they're rehearsing it, whether they're doing it
in the simulator, whether they're briefing it. They're they're prepping,
they're looking at the targets, they're looking at ingress routes,
egress routes, and whether that target happens to be in

(07:17):
Iran or wherever else in the world. We have pilots
right now that are studying and looking and learning the
threat so that when they go to execute, they can
do it again.

Speaker 5 (07:27):
Colonel, let me ask you point blank, did we get
the job done? Giving the munitions that were released, the
scale of the explosions. Do you feel, given your background
that we have, as the President said, obliterated Iran's ability
to undertake nuclear weapons and to make those weapons.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
I believe his intel. Me personally, I would not believe
a target is completely destroyed until you have physical or
physical eyes on, whether that's a satellite or whether that's
a human being going in there getting human intel. We
were in Iraq one day and a health fire missile
had been fired into a building, and then the next

(08:07):
day and it would destroyed the target. It killed everybody inside. Supposedly.
The next day I went into that building and I
looked into that building and I was like, Wow, this
didn't do much damage at all. So the report of
a different Cobra that had shot that was that he
destroyed the building. We went back in and maybe killed
all the bad guys in it, We don't know, but
the building was definitely not destroyed, So bomb dabbine. You know,

(08:30):
whether they called bomb dabage assessment or battle damage assessment
is very difficult to ascertain, especially when it's beneath the ground.
Now I believe the intel that I don't see the
intel that President Trump is seeing obviously, so he's getting intel.
It's probably very thorough, but you will never know for
sure unless you have somebody physically go down there and

(08:53):
look inside there with something, whether it's a drone, whether
it's a satellite. They're looking down somehow. Probably got it,
but I don't know that anyone can guarantee it until
you have eyes on That's my opinion.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Speaking with retired Marine Colonel William Dunne, he was a
Marine Cobra pilot back in the nineties. Retired now, Colonel,
we can only try to imagine what it was like
to be in the pilot seat. Can you describe the
complexity of this operation and what it took to pull

(09:25):
this off?

Speaker 6 (09:28):
Well?

Speaker 4 (09:28):
Absolutely, And I have not flown a B two, but
I've worked with B two pilots before. It's a long flight,
so I think this one they're clocking at thirty seven hours.
They have to errow refuel. Every time that you er
a refuel and I've done that in a couple other
aircraft as a copilot, but every time you air refuel,
it's dangerous. There's something could go wrong, but it didn't.

(09:54):
So they launch out. As we've seen on TV, they
did two separate mission. One was a decoy one was
the attack mission. I think that was brilliant. There are
ways to track these aircraft and they were actually doing it.
CNN was doing it and Fox News was doing They
were talking about the tanker bridge and they were talking
about all the air the fighter aircraft that left. So

(10:15):
those warnings and indications were going out to the world.
And when you're a pilot, you're so focused on the mission,
whether it's a training mission. And sometimes I know this
may not they may sound sort of crazy. Sometimes a
training mission can be as dangerous or more dangerous than
an actual combat mission based on what the combat scenario

(10:37):
is and what the training mission is. So the takeaway
there is whether these pilots are flying a actual combat
mission or a training mission, they will put the same
emphasis in every aspect of that flight because it's just
as dangerous if you if you fly into another aircraft
which happens occasionally. Right, you've heard about mid air, you know,

(10:59):
military aircraft adminters. It's just as dangerous as a bad
guy shooting you down with a missile. So every aspect
of a training mission should be planned to the exact
extent as a combat mission. And you know, there may
be some pilots that disagree with that, but I would argue,
you train like you fight. That's our model in the
Marine Corps. So if you're going out throughing a regular mission,

(11:20):
it should be no different, and you should put just
as much emphasis on your plan as if you're going
down downtown bag Dad to you know, go fight the
iraqis back in the day.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
Colonel, Let's think the politics out of it for a
second and focus solely on tactics. Acting now before the
country has a nuclear weapon, versus what our options would
have been if we allow them to first obtain a
nuclear weapon and then we deal with it at that point.
Explain to me how one empties the toolbox versus the other,

(11:56):
and how much harder I would imagine it would be
to deal with this if there or if I ran
was nuclear capable versus not being so.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
Well, there's another there's another element to your question that
you didn't ask. Let me throw this out. Say Iran
got a nuclear weapon. Well, there's another country that has
a nuclear weapon called Israel. So if you are faced
with a choice, just like the US has mutually assured destruction, right,

(12:26):
that's why we that's why we keep the turns going,
because if one state actor nuke's another state actor, they're
going to get nukes. So that becomes kind of the
line of the sand. You don't want to do that
because everybody dies. Well, what if you're Israel and you're
faced with extinction or using a nuclear weapon of your own.

(12:48):
We do not want to put Israel in that place
that That's that's the first thing that I would when
this all went down. That's the first thing that I
was concerned about. As a world, we do not want
to across the nuclear threshold. So if I'm on Israel
and I'm about to be destroyed forever, I have one choice,

(13:09):
what do you think I'm gonna do. I'm not gonna
let that happen. Fortunately, we did not have to get
to that point. Head Iran got in a functional nuclear weapon,
and we assess everything we've seen on the open source
assessed that they did not get one yet. But had
they got one, then all bets would have been off
because they promised to use it against Israel and the

(13:32):
United States and or the United States. So if we
had waited for them to get it, and to me
that the argument whether it was three weeks or six
months or a year is irrelevant. They had promised they
were going to get one, and they had promised they
were going to use it. So taking them out this weekend,

(13:52):
in the last week or so that Israel has been
prosecuting those targets, it doesn't matter whether it happened today
or tomorrow. It had to happen before they got the
weapon or else, you know, cataclysmic possibilities start to come
to mind. So it was a unfortunate that it had
to happen. Right, Every opportunity was given from our president

(14:17):
to Iran to step back, come to negotiation and get
away from these nuclear aspirations. They did not accept that,
and then you had the result what happened with Israel's
campaign and then what happened this weekend. So if you
believe the intel and you believe Iran, they said they

(14:38):
were going to get a nuclear weapon and use it
then it doesn't matter whether we hit them this weekend
or whether we waited six months.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
In my mind, Colonel retire Marine Colonel William Dunn joining
us here on Metro News talk Line this morning. What
message does this send to other militaries, other governments watching
what happened over the weekend.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
Well, if there's two messages, and this is what I
would love for every American to understand. The biggest message
is the President of the United States. When they say something,
he or she says something, they have to mean it.
The last administration, we had over three hundred attacks on
US personnel and we did nothing.

Speaker 7 (15:20):
Nothing.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
This president comes to town again, he tells them they
will not have a nuclear weapon, and he acts on it.
He tells them to negotiate, and he acted on it.
His latest statement is, don't attack are men and women overseas.
If you do, there'll be an even greater attack. The
message has always got to be that America comes from strength,

(15:44):
and when America says something, they mean it. You can't
draw a line in the sand. And I don't care
who's in the White House, whoever is in the White House,
you cannot draw a line in the sand. Have your adversary,
cross it and then draw another line. You have to
act upon what you say, and this president has shown
that he will do that, and he will protect our

(16:04):
men and women in the uniform and protect Americans whether
they're in the United States or abroad. I believe that
the tactical mission will be seen as a strategic success
because we could implement that in other areas if required,
if it came to that, which we don't want it
to do. Right, peace through strength, that's what we all

(16:27):
should believe in, and hopefully that'll come true.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Retired Marine Colonel William Don appreciate the perspective this morning. Again,
fascinating operation carried out over the weekend.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
Well, yes, sir, and thanks so much for having me.
And hopefully we'll see some calm in the region over
the next few weeks and then maybe the Iranians will
figure out a better way to come back and be,
you know, come back into the world fold and be
a friend to everybody.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Retired Marine Colonel William Done, Thank you so much. Wellane
appreciate it. Yes, sir, have a great day to tell
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Speaker 1 (21:29):
Get some of your thoughts here in just a moment,
while we've got a second tj your commentary this morning
over at wv metronews dot com. You've started, I think
you touched on this Friday when we were discussing this,
But you make the argument, well, I'll let you make
the argument but you use North Korea as an example
why President Trump should have carried out the air strikes

(21:52):
over Ron this past weekend.

Speaker 5 (21:54):
Yeah, because when you're dealing with a rogue, irresponsible regime,
we have no prospect of long term success. They will
not honor a deal. We saw that with the North Koreans.
We traded this provision and that provision for proliferation and
it ultimately failed. We always caught them cheating, We always

(22:15):
caught new enrichment efforts that were going on. When you
look frankly at the history with Iran, it's really not
that much different.

Speaker 16 (22:23):
Now.

Speaker 5 (22:23):
You can argue that backing out of the Obama deal
was a bad move to make, but even when Biden
tried to get us back into that deal, Iran wanted
more and more enrichment capabilities. They wanted less and less sanctions.
There's no long term hope when you're not dealing with
an honest counterparty. Better, as the colonel said, I agree

(22:46):
with him completely. You have to deal with this now
before Iran is nuclear capable. And oh, by the way,
ballistic missiles in that country are something that they're trying
to perfect as well. So this wasn't just a regional thing.
This had long term implications potentially on the national security
of the United States, and we don't want to make
the mistake we made with North Korea in that now

(23:06):
the toolbox has been emptied, we don't have that same
kind of ability with North Korea as we had with
Iran before they get a bomb.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
We will get into the political ramifications of the airstrikes
carried out over the weekend. Robert Bolton going to join
us about an hour from now, friend of the show
and political science professor at Fairmont State University. What are
the ramifications now? What are our allies thinking, What are
we thinking? What's going on on Capitol Hill? Because you
know that is the talk of the town up on

(23:34):
the hill starting off the day today. So we'll get
into all of that coming up an hour from now.
Coming up, we'll change gears. Greg Thomas will join us
as a manufacturer in the Northern Panhandle. De signs it's
moving across the river. We'll get into that subject.

Speaker 9 (23:47):
Next.

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West Virginia Metro newsie Jeff Jenkins. West Virginia appears on
the verge of receiving its second federal disaster declaration this
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West Virginians are good at helping in our communities, but
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It's just shattering the bodies of eight flood victims who
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Speaker 1 (27:18):
Get some of your thoughts on the weekends airstrikes on
Iranian nuclear facilities. Three or four talk three h four
eight hundred and seven sixty five eight two five point five.
That is the phone number. We'll get to those coming
up in just a moment. David morgantown TJ in Charleston.
Joining us now is Greg Thomas. He is a political

(27:39):
strategist here in West Virginia. News breaking last week the
Maple Manufacturing, which enhances metal for container producers by processing
steel coils and cut sheets, was moving from its location
or is moving has moved from its location at the
former Ball Manufacturing facility in Weirton, basically across the river

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into Ohio. Greg joins us on Metro News talk line.
So Greg a manufacturer with several jobs in the Northern Panhandle,
most one side of the river to the other, basically
still in the same area. But what's the impact to
West Virginia.

Speaker 20 (28:17):
Well, look, I think the main impact of this, right
is just the the public perception that we've lost momentum
on economic development, right. I mean, we had a good
five six years there where our economy was growing. You know,
we were we were controlling spending that led to the
biggest tax cut in state history. You know, you had

(28:39):
job announcement after job announcement, new Core coming in, all
these big these big manufacturers are coming in. And for
the last you know, six to eight months, we haven't
had any new job announcements. And now the first thing
kind of comes out that we're actually losing jobs. And
so I think it's a real you know, uh, not

(29:01):
that this is the biggest news in the world. You know,
it's definitely dozens of jobs, but it's just what what
could be happening in the sign of what could be
to come, I think is what really needs to put
our our current legislators on notice.

Speaker 5 (29:17):
So, Greg, what's the calculus here? Because a lot of
the folks that work in the Economic Development Office, uh,
they don't change from administration to administration. So has this administration,
the Morrisey administration, somehow curtailed what they can do or
how they do their job versus the Justice administration, and
maybe that's resulting in what we're seeing. Is is that
a possibility?

Speaker 20 (29:39):
Well, I think I'll look. Obviously there's a learning curve
into coming in of you know, who reports to who
and how we take care of this. You know, I
did hear from some former Justice Administration officials that said
that they were in communication with this company in the
last six months of last year. So I don't know
what's happened this year. You know, what I do know is,

(30:02):
you know, we had a legislative session this past time
that did absolutely nothing to create jobs, right. I mean
Governor Morris he had two bills, you know, one that
dealt with one that dealt with permitting want to dealt
with licenser that were kind of you know, what should
help the economy and anybody that gets into this world

(30:23):
of economic development, right, I mean, we know there's three
big things taxation, litigation, and regulation. And this is the
first legislative session we had that there was no tax
cut in like five years. With respect to litigation, we
were playing defense, right, I mean, the you know, the
State Senate, you know, they were out there. They had
twenty they proposed twenty six bills trying to create new

(30:45):
ways for their liberal Democrat personal injury lawyer donors took
to make money. So we're kind of going in the
wrong direction on that. And so I think, you know, overall,
you know, I tried to get some information about this,
and you know, no one was going to be doing
the interview, and I had one job creator from the
Northern Panhandle tell me, I mean this was a this

(31:06):
is a big loss for Weirton, but it's the bad
trend for West Virginia, right. I mean, you've got you know,
just across the border, Ohio. You know their their offering incentives.
You know, you got savings from lower electricity costs, no
taxes on inventory, machinery equipment. I mean, it's just going
to be hard for us to compete with these other

(31:27):
states if we're not making progress on that. I'm trying
to create jobs here on from the legislative front.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Political strategist Greg Thomas joined us here on Metro News
talk Line. Brad McIlhenny has a story up on the
website this morning. Yesterday, Nick Preservadi, director of the West
Virginia Office of Energy, spoke before the Joint Committee on
Government and Finance during a Legislative Interim Meeting, which is
a legislative interims continuing by the way at Stonewall Resort

(31:54):
State Park. Talked about economic development, talked about the administration
focusing on what West Virginia does best, which is energy,
which is manufacturing taking a team approach is comments sort
of aimed at Greg maybe not swinging at every pitch,
being more selective on economic development? Is that the right approach.

Speaker 20 (32:18):
Right now? I look at it as we got to
they need to get a win, right, I mean, it's
been it's been six to eight months and they don't
have a win. You know, you've got to get one
win before you can get two and three. So I mean,
you know, I guess they can be selective and try
to get you know, the best one possible. But I
think you know, you know, from what I'm hearing from

(32:40):
other economic development folks, I mean a lot of them
are trying to find other jobs, right I mean, I
think there's so little being done on that front right now.
You've got people retiring early, people for looking new jobs,
and there's only so much you can do within these
economic development offices. If the legislatures not doing things to
put the tools in the toolbox to help you, and

(33:03):
when you have a legislative session, especially our state senate
leadership right now, it's far more focused on you know,
little kids you know in classrooms and transgender stuff or
whatever than they are on creating jobs. You know, these
guys are more focused on making sure a little girl
has to have the rapist baby than they are on

(33:24):
making sure we keep our jobs here and grow our economy.
You know, this is the bad news.

Speaker 16 (33:29):
I think we better get used to, Craig.

Speaker 5 (33:31):
Is that our fault? I'm talking about we, the citizens
of West Virginia. We elected these people. If they can't
read a P and L, they don't know how to
do business, is it our fault that we put them
into office?

Speaker 20 (33:41):
This is Hey, look, it's part of my fault. I
helped elect some of these people. You know, they turn
around and stab us in the back after they got there.
But look, you know we are going to have elections
next May. Right, You're gonna have primary elections next May,
and you're going to have some candidates running on hey,
we need to focus on the economy, and some focus
are going to say, hey, all I care about social issues,

(34:02):
and you're going to get to decide, right like, which
which path do you want to go down? You know
we've had recent you know, we've talked about this over
the last during the legislative session. You know, there was
several polls that came out that said the number one
issue in the state is jobs. Yet here we had
a legislative session that you know, outside of Morrissey having
a couple of bills. You know, the legislature did next
to nothing and the House tried to pass them bills.

(34:25):
But right now our state Senate is their anti jobs, right,
They're an anti business, you know. The leadership of the
State Senate the anti business. And that's really where we
need to make the change.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Political strategis is Greg Thomas join us here on metro
ned's talk line. It will be interesting, Greg, to see
how the candidates, incumbents and challengers alike campaign next year,
because on the social issues, I think we've covered them
all at this point, everything from I mean the abortion
issue has been settled here in West Virginia legislatively. I

(34:58):
think the Frands issue has been settled legislatively, it seems
here in West Virginia. Now we have a US Supreme
Court ruling on that. So as far as the hot
button culture issues go, I think we have we've handled
that in West Virginia. So it'll be interesting to see
how and what candidate's campaign on next year.

Speaker 20 (35:21):
I would think the same thing, Dave, but I don't
think that is going to be the case with this crowd, right,
I mean we've you know, it's it's never going to
be enough of them, right, I mean you just said, well,
all the abortion issues settled, you get the you know,
get the majority of the Republican current Republican leadership in
the state Senate. They don't think so they think we
need to have no exceptions at all. So I think

(35:41):
I think that's what you're going to see. I think
you're just going to see more of the same. You know,
there's sort of a there's sort of a one trick
pony with always going back to these radical social issues
to be real divisive, you know, thinking that it gained
some sort of advantage for them in these primaries that
that have low turnout.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
You know.

Speaker 20 (36:00):
But you know, you know what, We're just going to
have to make sure that normal, regular people participate in
these elections that say, hey, you know, we want to
get back to creating jobs, fixing the roads, and improving
the schools.

Speaker 5 (36:14):
So Greg, you know, I think we ought to be
Glen Gary, Glenn Ross ABC brother always be closing all right.
I think we ought to be at it full tilt
all the time. But I'm going to play devil's advocate,
because it's no fun when you and I just agree.
What would you say to the argument that government should
not be in the business of finding business. We shouldn't

(36:36):
be in the role of manipulating the market. We shouldn't
be offering tax breaks because ultimately, richer states like Ohio
are always going to be able to outspend us. Therefore,
we shouldn't have a role in this and our only
role should be to create a level playing field. We
shouldn't be out undertaking these activities your rebuttal.

Speaker 20 (36:55):
Well, I think that. Look, I'm kind of in the
middle on this, right, like you with some of that.
I just think you have to look at it like
we don't live in a vacuum though, right, other many
other states have dedicated funding streams for economic development. They
have you know, dark far less costs on the site work.

(37:16):
You know, these companies are making decisions based on, you know,
from concept to production, how fast and how cheap can
I get it done? And you have to be competitive there.
I mean Morrisey talks about this backyard brawl, right, I
mean that was how do we get competitive with the
other states? And if you go back to our you know,
what I said earlier about the taxation, litigation and regulation.

(37:37):
You can you know, you don't have to say, all right,
I'm going to hand out a bunch of money to
pick winners and losers in business. If we're lower in
taxes for everybody, right, if we're if we're handling the
litigation climate for everybody, if we're if we're getting rid
of needless litigation regulation for everybody. But that's not what
we did in the legislative session, right, So right now,

(37:59):
you know you're saying, hey, I think we should be
doing the big macro stuff and not the economic development
sort of handouts. Right now we're not doing either thing. Right,
So I could be right, you could be right, But
right now what we're doing is wrong, which is nothing.
There's no focus on jobs at all with this current legislator.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
See political strategist Greg Thomas joining us here. I'll mentioned
his talk line this morning. Greg, give me sixty seconds
on your take on the air strikes over Iran this
past weekend.

Speaker 20 (38:34):
Look, you know, I'm not an international affairs expert. I
support Trump's decision to do it because I do think
Iran having nukes is something that we need to make
sure doesn't happen, and we haven't had the leadership in
Washington to get that done. They were actually helping Iran,

(38:55):
you know, sort of get nukes by sending the palettes
of cash and everything else. I don't want to see
us involved in some kind of long, right like ground
war over there. So hopefully they'll be able to find
a way to prevent them from having nukes without having
some sort of protracted war where we have to send
a bunch of Americans, you know, American you know, bodies

(39:19):
and resources over there for twenty years like we did
in Iraq. I mean, you know, I don't know who.
I don't know anybody wants.

Speaker 6 (39:27):
To see that.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Political strategist Greg Thomas. Greg always appreciate the conversation.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Thank you, buddy.

Speaker 20 (39:33):
All right, guys, thank you for the opportunity.

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You know, we were cruising run Long, had a nice
I thought that was a pretty nice spring. Now last
couple of weeks have been a lot of rain, obviously,
but boy, summer hit all at once. Some are officially
arrived on Friday, and the heat and humidity has arrived
as well. Metro News ACTI whether meteorologist Jeff Nordine joins
us this morning. Jeff, good morning. Where in the world

(43:35):
is all this heat coming from? Other than of course
it's June and it's summer.

Speaker 16 (43:41):
Well, I mean you just answered it sort of, but
I can give you the more scientific cancer. And it's
this heat dome of high pressure that's centralized over the
five states of Kentucky, Tennessee, North Carolina, Virginia, and West Virginia.
That's where the center of this very large high pressure
zone is. And what it's doing is it's channeling up

(44:04):
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states and bringing it northward. Now is it welcome here?

Speaker 23 (44:10):
Absolutely not, but here we are, so all right, Explain
to me if it feels like it is one hundred
and three degrees Jeff, why is it not just one
hundred and three degrees?

Speaker 16 (44:25):
Well, because the actual air temperature is what's measured. We
we do not measure heat index and we do not
measure the acuweather Real field temperature. Those are, by the way,
two different things. The National Weather Service uses the heat
index because that was their formulation. But with the acuweather
Real Field temp that is our formula. That's the unique formula,

(44:48):
and it was actually developed using humans. You know, in
a like a study. We would put people out, tell
them what the temperature is, and they would tell us
what it feels like without looking at the heat index.
And what we gathered is a formula that says, you know,
this is your temperature. This is what they felt it was.

(45:08):
And that's because of cloud cover, because of how much
sun angle there is, because of wind, because of shade,
because of the X, Y and z. It's a huge formula.
But long story short, I went on a huge tangent there.
It's just hot and we don't want it. I can't
say that again.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Mentioned new ZACU weather meteorologist Jeff Nordean join us here
on the program. So how long does the heat wave last, Jeff, Well,
we have the.

Speaker 16 (45:33):
Heat advisory officially through Wednesday, with temperatures that are going
to be in the low to mid nineties and heat
indexes as per the National Weather Service will be in
the hundreds ACUA. The real field temperatures will be there too.
As far as when do we see relief, I guess
by Thursday, but only so much, and then if we

(45:55):
really want to talk better relief, I would extend it
to Saturday and Sunday when temperature is get back into
the mid to upper eighties. So we're looking at the
temperatures to dip a little bit more and there's going
to be some showers of storms. Storm to do enuously flow.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Us off, Jeff, not's over simplify your job. But you
can do hot, humid with a chance for showers and
storms late in the afternoon through probably September at this point.

Speaker 16 (46:22):
Okay, I'll put that in the forecast and I'll send
it to you and I'll let you just take it away.

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Texture says, please don't forget about the animals outside. Yeah,
always sound advice. I took my dogs for a walk
early yesterday morning, before it was well before I thought
it was getting too hot. And if you have a dog,
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(50:52):
the dog looks at you like, are you crazy?

Speaker 4 (50:54):
Man?

Speaker 7 (50:55):
Really?

Speaker 1 (50:56):
And that's the look I got. We got about a
block and a half in my older She's sixteen. She
looks at me like, yep, this is dumb.

Speaker 5 (51:03):
It is hot.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
We are going back to the house and I'm going
to lay on the air conditioning vent. And she did,
and that was pretty much where she stayed all day.
So yeah, good advice. Don't forget about the animals outside
in the heat wave. Oh, let's get some text here,
A three or four talk three oh four. Your radio
network's been the last four years letting your guest without intersecting,

(51:25):
yap and yap that Trump would not bomb Iran and
Harris would and she would start World War three. Now
that it's convenient, you're all's narrative has changed. Well, hey,
I've only been here at least in this role since
January number one, number two. The left and right buy
into this idea that there is a narrative that gets pushed.

(51:50):
Maybe at some level they do. I can tell you
here there is no narrative.

Speaker 5 (51:57):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
There is no organized meeting where we get together and go, okay,
all right, everybody, you know where we're smoking cigars and
sipping bourbon. That would be nice, but it doesn't happen.
We don't have a narrative to push. We bring on perspectives,
we interview them, We have our own opinions. Nobody tells
us what to think or how to stand on an issue. Again, TJ.

(52:17):
As much as I'd like to have a you know,
secret meeting with cigars and bourbon, it ain't happening. There
is no narrative to push here. And oh, by the way,
we've only had the job six months.

Speaker 5 (52:27):
So yeah, nothing. I can't add anything to that you
said at all, So that that doesn't add up. That's
horse hockey, uh three or four talk three four. The
US signed an agreement with Iran and our allies. Trump
canceled the US obligations of that deal. Why would any
nation negotiate with Trump? He is unreliable. If Iron had.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
Given Trump's son in law two billion dollars like Saudi
Arabian did, Trump would have let them have as many
nuclear weapons as they wanted. I disagree he has been
If there is one thing he has been consistent on
even before he was into paulas go all the way
back to the first campaigns Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.

Speaker 5 (53:05):
The JCPOA was a bad deal. It punted, that's all
it did. It punted. It didn't solve anything. It didn't
reckon anything. It was full of sunset provisions. It was
kicking the can down the road. That's what the JCPOA
did period.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
We'll get more of your thoughts coming up at three
or four Talk three oh four second hour. Robert Bolton,
Fairmont State Political science professor will join us. We'll get
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(54:21):
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Speaker 7 (54:24):
Going to join us.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Coming up bottom of the hour, we'll discuss the political
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That's coming up an eleven thirty and plenty of time
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threeh four TJ. We did get some response from West

(54:46):
Virginia's congressional delegation over the weekend. By the way, we
did reach out to Senator Capito and Senator Justice's offices.
Neither were available today, but we are efforting that later
this week. Senator Justice posted an image of the US
fly on X and his message said President Trump is
exactly the leader we need in these uncertain times. Actions

(55:07):
like this highlight the President's peace through strength approach to
those who threaten our interest, chant death to America, and
sponsored terrorism across the world. I applaud our brave service
members for their successful mission and reiterate the President's call
for Iran to come to the negotiating table. First District
Congressman Carol Miller said in a statement posted on X

(55:28):
because that's where you do these things now. Iran was
persistent and their refusal to stop enriching uranium. We gave
them every opportunity to stop and agreed to nuclear disarmament.
They refused, So America ended at their nuclear weapons program tonight.
The Commander in chief has my full support. And finally,
Congressman Riley Moore said, President Trump has made it clear

(55:49):
for more than a decade, Iran cannot attain a nuclear weapon.
The President's targeted strike tonight was the right decision. Thanks
b to God, all of our military personnel involved are safe.
They secuted flawlessly. Again, That was the response from West
Virginia's congressional delegation.

Speaker 5 (56:05):
When has appeasement ever worked?

Speaker 9 (56:08):
Dave?

Speaker 5 (56:08):
I mean, we learned that lesson a long time ago,
and hopefully we don't have to learn it again. But
when has it ever worked? And I think we were
crossing the rubicon from diplomacy to appeasement with provision after
provision after ask after ask, only to be rebuffed. None

(56:28):
of these counterparties, whether we're talking O Ran, North Korea, whoever,
they've never seriously aimed for non proliferation. The inspections always
bear that out. So at some point you have to
have a reckoning Lord knows. I've disagreed with President Trump
on many things, but on this I think he got

(56:49):
it right.

Speaker 27 (56:50):
And he.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
We read the same reports.

Speaker 4 (56:54):
Right.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
We're not in the White House briefing room, no, so
we don't necessarily know all the details. But he was
urging Iran take the deal, take the deal, take the deal.
There was what's sixty days there, Take the deal, take
the deal, take the deal. They didn't take the deal.
So at some point, as the colonel mentioned back in

(57:15):
the first segment, here's the line. If you are not
going to if you cross the line, or if you're
not going to take the deal, then eventually something has
to be done. Now I would, and we're going to
get into this with Robert Bolton here in just a
little bit. As far as long term occupation, regime change,
country nation building, I don't think anyone is interested in that,

(57:35):
nor do I think the President is interested in that.
Despite his truth social truth media or whatever the thing's
called his truth he posted earlier this morning about make
Iran great again, I don't think he's interested in that,
nor do I think the American people are interested in that. However,
at some point you have to back up your particularly rhetoric,

(57:57):
and I think the President did that over the weekend.

Speaker 5 (58:00):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
Mike McKenna is a contributor for the Washington at Times.
He has an opinion piece out a commentary. The title
is environmentalist goon squad Green piece learns a lesson. We'll
get into that. Let's bring Mike McKenna into the program. Mike,
good morning.

Speaker 25 (58:17):
How you doing doing well.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
We'll get into your piece that was in the Washington Times,
But first your thoughts on the air strikes that were
carried out over the weekend. Is the President backing up
or is rhetoric or is he starting something the US
may not want to get involved in.

Speaker 9 (58:33):
Yeah, this is not going to be a popular answer,
but I'm going to give it anyway. And whether you
mean to be involved in regime change or not, you
get there right, Because if I really collapses, which is
a non zero chance, who do you think is going
to fix it?

Speaker 28 (58:51):
Right?

Speaker 9 (58:52):
Bertishan is going to fix If the Israelis aren't going
to fix it, everyone's going to call us to fix it.
I'm sensitive to the fact that AULTI that you have
to do something, but I'm super concerned that I'm super
concerned that the administration hasn't really thought this down through
the next two or three iterations of the possibilities, right,

(59:13):
And you know, one of those possibilities is a nation
of ninety million people collapses and destabilizes the whole regime,
the whole region rather, and that's not going to be good.
It's not going to be good. And you know, I'm
insensive to the fact that the the Iranians would be
a dangerous nuclear power, but in all fairness, no more

(59:34):
dangerous than the Russians in the Chinese. And no one's
talking about changing those regimes. So I'm coloring is undecided
on this one.

Speaker 5 (59:43):
So, Mike, but we can't change China, we can't change Russia,
we can't change North Korea. I wrote about this this morning.
That's why you have to do it now, because you
can't do it after they get the bomb. So there's
that point. I also take your point about nation building
and who's going to do so maybe maybe that's why
the current regime sits back and they don't escalate further

(01:00:06):
because they realize if they do, they have a lot
to lose as well, and maybe they want to leave
well enough alone.

Speaker 9 (01:00:11):
What would you say to that, Yeah, I mean, look,
that's that's that's the way this thing always goes right
either you know, history proves somebody right and somebody wrong,
and trust me, I would be very happy to be wrong.
But immediate, our immediate history in the Middle East, and
when I say immediate, I mean stuff that stretches back

(01:00:31):
to when the British gave up on it in the
nineteen twenties has been things never get better. They tend
to get worse. It just is right. And and the
idea that the Iranians are going to either go quietly
or be able to repair themselves, it's just not going
to happen. It's just you know, you know. And that's

(01:00:54):
the thing about it, right, That's why he's the president
and nobody else is because big risk, big reward. But
if it fails, it's the defining moment of the presidency, Right, Mike.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
I read a commentator this was prior to the air strikes,
but as conservative commentator who said, look, the reason as
evidence for the Trump administration, or at least President Trump
not being interested in regime change was the eye toolas
are still around the president, whether he's blowing smoke or not.
Said hey, we know exactly where you are. If he

(01:01:27):
was interested in regime change, why would he have left
the Isatolas in place at this point? I'm sure certain
if Israel wanted to, they could strike them, take them out.
So he presented that anyway, This commentator presented that as
evidence that the Trump administration's not interested in regime change,
and getting in that deep your thoughts.

Speaker 9 (01:01:46):
Yeah, I mean, I agree, nobody's interested in regime change.
I certainly don't want it right, I don't think anybody
else does. But it may become inevitable, and that when
you start bombing people, you're never sure how things are
going to end, you know, is it a one and done?
Who knows? Do the regime opponents, of which there are
many in Iran, do they take this moment to do

(01:02:08):
their thing? Who knows? I guess what I'm saying is
is that once you roll the dice right down the
crafts table, once you let go of them, you don't
know what's gonna happen. You hope you're going to roll
a good number right, but you don't know. And that's
sort of where we are now. We hope we've done
the right thing here, but we really don't know. And
you know, we're not gambling with money or chips or

(01:02:29):
anything else, right, We're gambling here with the men and
women in the United States who wear the uniform. And
that's some people don't think about. Right, We're sending human
beings in a harm's way.

Speaker 4 (01:02:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (01:02:41):
Like I said, I'm not saying it didn't need to
be done. It probably definitely needed to be done. I'm
just I'm super concerned about everybody's sort of generally casual
attitude about what the consequences might look like.

Speaker 5 (01:02:54):
Washington insider, Republican strategist, Man about town. Washington Times columnist
McKenna joins us, Mike, how will this affect the president's
domestic agenda if at all? And I'm thinking the big
beautiful bill. Does this spill over and somehow make it
even more complicated to get this legislation through Congress? Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:03:15):
I would. I would simply note, whenever somebody wants to
stick a pin in you, they call you a Washington insider.
I like it. I probably got about thirty phone calls
on Sunday about this that very question, right, like, Hey,
what does this do for the pill? I was like, sure,
that's the important part of the conversation. Gang, but if

(01:03:36):
you're a tax lobbyist, it is the important part of
the conversation. I think it doesn't have any effect in
the near term. I think the bill proceeds apace right.
White House is the White House is tuned in to
the proceedings involved in the negotiations. Right, There's been no
drop off on that. So if it's going to have
an effect, I haven't seen it yet. I don't think

(01:03:56):
it's going to have an effect. I think the president,
you know, can walk at you gum at the same time,
and I know the administration ken So I still think
that's probably gonna get done right after July fourth, and
it's gonna be good when it gets done. I think
it's it's gonna be a good thing for everybody, Mike.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
He wrote in a column last week in the Washington Times.
When Greenpeace lost a six hundred and sixty million dollar
case over its organization over its organization of a violent
pipeline protest, the most unusual part of the story wasn't
the jury confirming that the organizations do this sort of
thing all the time, nor the size of the verdict.
It was the fact that an energy company had stood

(01:04:34):
up to the strong arm tactics routinely employed by the
professional environmental political operatives and grifters, rather than caving to
their ridiculous demands. Please go on.

Speaker 9 (01:04:47):
That's a pretty good sentence there, Yeah, not bad almost
like well they get paid to right anyway. So so
Kelsey Warren, right, is the CEO of a energy transfer
right and they wanted they were the guys who were
trying to get the DPOTA pipeline built.

Speaker 28 (01:05:04):
Right.

Speaker 9 (01:05:05):
And you may may or may not remember this, but
four or five years ago was subject to pretty intense
protests and and the protesters not only you know, was
the usual scuffy, scruffy gang, right, they were. They were
organized by green Peace right, which which green Peace later
admitted in court filings. Right. And the other thing is

(01:05:26):
they really they didn't just protest. They really damaged the land.
They damaged the property, They damaged things on the property.
And mister Warren did something to see I've never seen
a CEO done do. He just said, look, we're not
tolerating this. We're gonna we're gonna sue these guys, you know,
for for their for their action in destroying property. Right,

(01:05:49):
And he did and green Peace. The verdict was six
hundred and sixty seven million dollars against green Peace green
Peace USA, which you know the Green piece guys announced
almost right away, Hey, that's going to bankrupt us. And
I remember thinking about that and asked them, like, are
you trying to encourage it or discourage I'm not sure

(01:06:11):
what you're trying to do here, but but the point
is Kelsey warrant And as you transferred, he he did
something out of character for CEOs, right. He didn't negotiate it,
he didn't have a conversation, he didn't think about it.
Just like lagated were just going to make those guys
pay for what they did. And it was important enough
and latible enough that I wanted to write something about it.

(01:06:33):
So I think it's a good thing.

Speaker 5 (01:06:36):
So, Mike, how will this change the way green Peace
undertakes its activities if at all? You note in your piece,
and I think correctly, green pieace to some extent This
is my phrase, not yours. They just want to watch
it burn. They have no solution. They don't at all
acknowledge the rising energy demands in this country. Does this lawsuit,

(01:07:01):
this sum, does it chill them to the point where maybe, uh,
they don't back off of what they're doing, obviously, but
maybe they come up with a new strategy that is
more recognizing and encompassing of the challenges that the world faces.

Speaker 9 (01:07:14):
Yeah, yeah, one would hope though, right, and not just greenpeace, right.
I think it's one of those things that's a lesson
for the entire I'll call it an environmental movement because
I'm charitable this morning, but you know, the whole the
whole environmental crew now has a sense that, hey, there's
some consequences to the actions. Now for most people that

(01:07:34):
would really, you know, would cause them to reel it
in a bit. And I certainly hope that's what happens.
But you know, twenty five thirty years of experience with
the environmental folks would lead you to conclude that that's
not what's going to happen. And you know, other CEOs
are going to have to step forward and do similarly similar,

(01:07:55):
similar things, right that require some courage and require you
explaining the aboard of directors, Look, this is important, and
we're doing it not because you know, we're difficult and
I want to have conflict, but because you can't just
let people bust off. So I I hope, I hope
that happens, but I hope everyone learns a lesson. And
I think they're going to learn a lesson, but I

(01:08:16):
think they're going to need the lesson reinforced a couple
more times.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
You can read Mike's piece at Washington Times dot com.
Michael McKenna, the uh what a teacher?

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
I called it?

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
Did he call you an insider? I believe he said
you're a Washington insider.

Speaker 9 (01:08:31):
It's just it's just a terrible morning, just an awful morning.

Speaker 5 (01:08:34):
I've been known to call the great American. I've been
known to call him the great American. Mike McKenna.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
That's that's back in the working day. So Mike, appreciate
the perspective today.

Speaker 9 (01:08:43):
Thank you, buddy, Thank you. Guys.

Speaker 7 (01:08:46):
Appreciate it absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
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Three oh four Talk three oh four. Text says Meanwhile
in the mountains, Montana, it's snowing my sister in law, Uh,
my sister in law son, my sister in law's son,
I think lives at Montana. Anyway, it's snowing in Montana.
That was the point of the text. However, the person
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Have you read to be hot than cold? I'd rather
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Speaker 5 (01:12:52):
I can cool down. I can find a way to
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Speaker 5 (01:13:07):
Thanks for that visual.

Speaker 7 (01:13:09):
At any rate.

Speaker 5 (01:13:11):
One of the reasons I don't like cold weather is
not so much because of the cold, but the season
that comes with it. I love this state, born here,
love that I still live here. It's ugly in the wintertime.
Everything's off the trees, it's depressing, it's gloomy. I don't
like that. So maybe that's my reason for preferring the

(01:13:32):
warmer weather. When it's nice outside, that's fair, that's fair.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
I do like summer, by the way, I mean, I
really do enjoy summer. You get outside, you can grill.
Let's see, that's the downside of the winter, as you
just you can't get outside it's so cold. Back to
the text line three or four talk three four. How
many Americans will be taken a hostage or shot around
the world in retaliation for the strike on Iran. I

(01:13:57):
understand the concern, and it is a very serious concern
that Iran will retaliate in some way that impacts American
lives or heaven forbid, there is an American that is killed. However,
you cannot be held metaphorically hostage TJ by a country's

(01:14:20):
threat that they may do something bad if you strike
them hard. I don't think you can do it, because
Iran could do that at any time. Any one of
its terror proxy groups could attack at any time. So
I understand the caution, but you cannot let that hold
you back from doing what needs in your estimation as

(01:14:41):
the commander in chief, what needs to be done.

Speaker 5 (01:14:44):
Do you want to deal with a problem now or
do you want to deal with a much larger problem later.
What happens when you put a dinosaur egg in the corner,
It eventually hatches. And so that's the calculus that I
would use to counter the point. I'm not dismissing the point,
because loss of life at any time is something that
you don't want to face. However, I do think it

(01:15:04):
is reasonable to conclude that if you allow this situation
to proceed unchecked, the loss of life could be much
larger later down the line than what it would be now.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
Three or four talk three h four is the text line.
I remember when Bill Clinton let a terrorist planner go
only to kill twenty four hundred Americans directly, thousands more indirectly,
says the Texter. H somebody wants to bring up January sixth. Okay,
we'll move on from there. Iran has been six months
away from a nuclear weapon for more for fifty years,

(01:15:36):
give me a break, says the Texter. Again, get the points.
But there have been operations that have been carried out.
Certainly Israel has carried out operations over the years to
stall that, to stall that and try to prevent Iran
from getting in here were they getting closed? Look again,
I can only read the reports. They read the same
ones as you do.

Speaker 9 (01:15:56):
But I do know this.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
I will go back to this. The President has been consistent.
If there's one thing he has been consistent on, Iran
is not going to have a nuclear weapon, and there
was an opportunity to make certain it didn't get one.

Speaker 5 (01:16:10):
Has i Ron ever been an honest broker? Have they
ever favored piece over evil?

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
Through my lifetime.

Speaker 5 (01:16:17):
Well, okay, so if they're six months away all the time,
there's six months away. But I don't think the argument
holds that these are good guys and have been for
a long time, and they're Johnny come Lately evil. Look,
these folks are bad folks. McKenna made a strong point
as to you will, is it any different from China?
Is it any different from Russia? I would respectfully disagree
with my friend and say, yeah, it is different.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
We can deal with it.

Speaker 5 (01:16:40):
Now they get a weapon, we can't deal with it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
Three or four talk three or four.

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That's not our narrative. That's our lot in life. Life,
That's what that is. That's our lot in life.

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Coming up, we will continue our discussion. We'll get more
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Text coming up at three or Four talk three, four
eight hundred and seven at sixty five eight, two five to.
Five Robert bolton is A Fairmont state political science. Professor
friend of the. Show he joins us All Metro news
talk line this. Morning, robert good, morning going to talk
to you again likewise with.

Speaker 21 (01:21:15):
You dave appreciate.

Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
It So, robert let's. Go we've been talking a lot
about the military aspect of this operation that was carried
out over the. Weekend now to the politics of. It
we have seen mixed reactions across the political spectrum here at,
home With republicans supporting, it some certainly have questioned it
and what it will mean for the long term. Consequences

(01:21:39):
democrats questioning the constitutionality of the president's. Actions so what's
the broad political implication here at.

Speaker 9 (01:21:46):
Home, well, unsurprisingly there's been a strong divide under party.
Lines the vast majority Of republicans were in support of,
it and the vast majority of Prominent Democrats Bernie sanders
and a few. OTHERS i remember in PARTICULAR aoc indicated their.
Disapproval you did allude to the. Constitutionality there's also a

(01:22:08):
legal restriction known as The War Powers act that was
passed in nineteen seventy three that there's some question whether or,
not at least them on The democrat, party they're raising
some questions about whether or not the president had the
authority to act without congressional. AUTHORIZATION i think it's telling
that The house And Senate republican leadership were notified shortly

(01:22:32):
before the strike, occurred but The democrats were not informed
until shortly After american forces had Left iranian.

Speaker 5 (01:22:39):
Airspace what does that say to you that they waited
to tell The. DEMOCRATS i think.

Speaker 9 (01:22:46):
It shows how bitterly divided we are as a country right.
Now during The Cold, war regardless of it being A
republican or A democrat. Administration if something like this had,
happened for, example during The rake, administration have no doubt
that The White house would have Informed tip. O'nail in
The democratic leadership of The, HOUSE i think it not

(01:23:09):
only says that were bitterly. DIVIDED i also think in
defense of The republicans and The trump, ADMINISTRATION i think
they were also legitimately concerned that there would be, leaks
potentially from The democrat side if they had been notified about,
this and this was an operation that need to be
carried out in the highest level of secrecy.

Speaker 4 (01:23:30):
The.

Speaker 9 (01:23:31):
Iranians thus, far we don't know exactly what this scope
of the damage, is but it does appear that it
was extremely. Severe, certainly the facilities themselves appear to be
obliterated from satellite, footage But i'm assuming that The iranians
probably had some human, capital the, researchers their nuclear. Scientists

(01:23:51):
i'm assuming at least some of those were, killed and
if they had been tipped off due to any leak
or news, report they probably would have evacuated even more
of those figures if they had not already done. So
in the weeks leading up to this, Strike.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
Robert back to The War Powers, Act Senator Tim kaine
From virginia seems to have been the most vocal in
questioning whether or not The president had the authority or
overstepped his authority to order this. Attack from your, perspective your,
opinion where where does congressional? Approval where is it? Required

(01:24:30):
and where is the president able to operate as commander in?

Speaker 9 (01:24:33):
Chief it's not specially surprising That Senator kane is the
one who's been most vocal about. THAT a few years,
ago there was a debate about whether or not we
should renew the authorization for military force against The rock
because there was a question whether or not our actions
AGAINST isis were applicable to the two thousand and TWO,

(01:24:55):
aumf And Senator kane was the one who led the
push to revoke the old one and say that we
needed a new. One as for The War Powers, ACT
i personally am of the opinion that it's. UNCONSTITUTIONAL i
feel it's an abridgment of executive. Power and that's the
view that's been held by every President Republican, democrat From

(01:25:20):
Richard nixon Through Donald. Trump but, nonetheless with that being,
said they have, always even if they personally viewed as,
unconstitutional acquiesce to the requirements of The, act which generally
requires that the president before he engages in military, strikes
either obtains authorization From congress or if he has to act,

(01:25:43):
immediately it has to be a pressing national security. Concern
now there's also a restriction on it that if he's
going to continue to engage in military, action And Donald
trump has indicated that if The iranians do not come
back to the bargaining, table that he is willing to
engage in further. Strikes The War Powers act requires that

(01:26:05):
THE us withdrawal military, forces typically within sixty, days or
cease military. Conflict you can extend that another thirty days
if you give the proper, notice but even, then at
most you have a three month. Window so it's interesting
to me that The democrats are pushing and saying that

(01:26:26):
he did not follow. That trump has been sending out emails, saying, oh,
well they're going to push for my. Impeachment, NOW i
don't think that that's going to go. Anywhere the president
has extremely broad power and authority to regulate foreign policy
and military action. Abroad this might be pushing some of those.

(01:26:47):
Limits BUT i don't view it as significantly different than,
say When President obama engaged in military action In, libya
or when you, know we and forces in The panama
in the late eighties early. Nineties So i'm sure it'll
cause a lot or, fuffle but in the grand scheme of,

(01:27:08):
THINGS i don't think it will have any significant impact
On President trump's authority in foreign policy in the long.

Speaker 5 (01:27:16):
Term Robert, Bolton Fairmont state political science, professor is with.

Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
Us.

Speaker 5 (01:27:20):
PROFESSOR i want to read you something that was ON.
X this was posted By Marjorie Taylor. Green, she of
course many would call a staunch trump. Ally she posted
this On saturday night ON. X she, said there would
not be bombs falling on the people Of israel if
net And yahoo had not dropped bombs on the people Of. Iran,
First israel is a nuclear armed. Nation this is not our.

(01:27:43):
Fight peace is the. Answer these kinds of reflections From
green and. Others is there a crack in magot when
it comes to this bobbing and what happens with that
feeling as we move?

Speaker 9 (01:27:56):
Forward DO i think that represent Of grain is going
to be the one lining up for impeachment Of Donald
trump or anything of that. Sort, no there have been
on the isolationist tween of The Republican party a lot
of reservation about whether or not we should be, involved

(01:28:17):
AND i think some of that is that Post iraq
fatigue for our military adventures.

Speaker 7 (01:28:22):
Abroad DO i think.

Speaker 9 (01:28:24):
We are anywhere near any Of Donald trump's supporters abandoning,
Him to be, honest, THOUGH i don't see. That there
have been far bigger scandals that have occurred With Donald
trump's administration currently or as prior to tenure in. Office
DO i think he'll get some rumbling from some, Members,

(01:28:45):
yeah but you could say the same thing about when
we Bombed syria during his first. Term we bombed a
few air bases back in twenty. Seventeen there were some
of his supporters who complained. Then BUT i don't see
this significantly changing. That you will have some grumbling behind the,
scenes but Certainly Representative, GREEN i don't anticipate her Abandoning

(01:29:08):
President trump or his overall political platform anytime.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
Soon since we're talking about social, media Post robert The
president posted on Truth social it's not politically correct to
use the term regime, change but if the Current iranian
regime is unable to Make iran great? Again why wouldn't
there be a regime? Change mega M. I. G. A
trump wrote On Truth Social. Is what are we to

(01:29:36):
make of? This is The president hinting that once the
regime change is he hinting The Iran iranian people should do.
SOMETHING i Guess i'm asking to read the president's, Mind, robert.

Speaker 9 (01:29:46):
AND i will tell you just on a personal, LEVEL
i have no sympathy for The. Molas there's a lot
About iranian culture and history that's very. Admirable BUT i
will tell, you since nineteen seventy, Nine i'm the religious
clergy that have Ruled iran have driven that country into the.

(01:30:06):
Ground we have not had formal diplomatic relations with them
since they seized our embassy that, year and they've engaged
in quite frankly or probably the leading sponsor of state
terrorism in The Middle east. Today and IF i was
The iranian, LEADERSHIP i would be deeply. Concerned right. Now

(01:30:28):
The iranian government has basically brought this on themselves in many.
Ways you have to remember what started all. This it
was really the events Of october twenty twenty, three When
hamas attacked The israeli attacked the music concert In israel
and killed or kidnapped thousands of. People that only happened

(01:30:50):
Because hamas got the green light from The iranian, regime
which is one of their biggest financial military, supporters and
the Reason iran did that was because they were worried
About israel receiving diplomatic recognition From Saudi arabia and other
Potential arab. States since, Then hamas has been severely weakened.

(01:31:12):
Militarily the leadership of The lebanese terrorist Group hezbola has
been killed by The, israelis and The israelis have engaged
on strikes In. Iran iran is pretty isolated diplomatically right.
Now it is A Shia muslim, state while the vast
majority of states in The Middle east are composed Of Sunni,

(01:31:36):
muslims and also they Are persians rather Than, arabs so pretty, much,
yeah many of The arab states aren't particularly keen On.
Israel they may not particularly like, them they may not
even diplomatically recognize, them but they really hate The iranian.
Regime they view them as basically heretics and as ethnic

(01:32:00):
Distinct so, Really iran has no major allies left in
the Region hamas is severely, weakened hesbalaz on its. Knees
russia is currently distracted with the war In. Ukraine so
When President trump is, saying, hey maybe we need to
do a leadership, CHANGE i personally am not saying we
should put put boots on the. GROUND i think that

(01:32:22):
would be a. Mistake but IF i was The iranian,
leadership WOULD i be worried about a drone strike right?

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
Now?

Speaker 9 (01:32:29):
YEAH i probably would. BE i certainly suspect The Iotola
hamani is hiding in a bunker somewhere at the, moment
and he should be. Concerned Pretty much every presidential election
for the last fifteen or twenty years has seen major
riots in the. Streets you have to remember about two
thirds of The iranian population is under the age of.

(01:32:50):
Forty they have no memory of life prior to nineteen seventy,
nine and they really don't have a great deal of
satisfaction with The iranian, regime the economies and. Shambles they're diplomatically,
isolated and they don't like the repression that comes with a.
Theocracy so, yeah at the, moment you're seeing a little

(01:33:11):
bit of a rally around the flag. Situation with the,
populace especially In. Tehran BUT i don't think that will
last very. Long and If professor legis, Leadership i'd be. Worried,
sorry is that why one?

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
There you're?

Speaker 5 (01:33:25):
Fine is that Why iran steps back and they don't push?
Further and maybe they don't counter attack THE us or
they don't mine the street OF hornus because The iotota
realizes it has a lot to lose and not a
good endgame. Here so does a ram push back from the,
table realizing what they could.

Speaker 9 (01:33:42):
Lose they being the, leadership, ABSOLUTELY i think they recognized
that they could be pushed Into if they were pushed
into a full scale military conflict with The United states
and IT'S nato.

Speaker 7 (01:33:55):
Allies they're.

Speaker 9 (01:33:56):
Done it may be a disaster for THE, us could
have another quagmire like we did In. Iraq but they
do recognize as the leadership that will end up Like Saddam.
Hussein they'll be swinging from the gallows if they're not
torn apart by their own populace in the. Streets so,
yeah you, know they may, say, oh we'll make we'll
bleed out The United states if we were in a

(01:34:18):
full scale, ward but they know that their time as
the leaders Of iran is over SO i think that's,
why in part they haven't struck. Back, also quite, FRANKLY
i don't think that they have the capability at this.
Point sanctions have been very effective at limiting their capacity
to extend force. Abroad their involvement in The Syrian Civil

(01:34:41):
war has drained a law of their, resources and there
have been some of their. Leadership Donald trump in his
first term assassinated or did an airstrike against the head
of Their Eranni Revolutionary Guard, Corps Cassim, sulimani and The
israelis have just killed some of their leadership in the

(01:35:01):
military as. Well SO i think that they know that
their ability to strike back is overall pretty limited at the.

Speaker 1 (01:35:08):
Moment Robert, Bolton Fairmont State, University political science, professor friend
of the. Show, robert always appreciate. It thank you for
the context.

Speaker 9 (01:35:15):
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More three or Four talk three four is the text
Line texter Says dave AND. Tj one key factor most
folks don't realize Is israel does not have any strategic
long range bomber aircraft like OUR b two bombers that
are capable of delivering large payloads big. Bombs israeli bomber
aircraft Are american MADE f sixteen fighter jets strapped with

(01:39:20):
extra gas tanks on top of the wings so they
can go a bit, further but can't carry the ordinances
necessary for strategic deep bunker. Strikes check out THE f
sixteen model On. Wikipedia, yeah and we're the only ones
that have the ordinances that were. Used, yeah good, reason
were the only ones that have.

Speaker 5 (01:39:37):
Them thirty POUNDS i THINK i read per, Bomb, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:39:43):
Two of, them two of. THEM i believe they drop
seven of them where there's seven maybe seven planes and.

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Six uns something like. That and, YEAH i think two
of those bunker busters as they're, CALLED i can go
on ONE b. TWO i think you have the capacity
get two PER b.

Speaker 1 (01:40:01):
Two it's again, militarily, strategically it. Was it was an outstanding.
Operation they never knew what was coming and not a
single shot was fired At United states. Aircraft amazing military.

Speaker 5 (01:40:14):
Operation, well the next time we have conversations about why
did we spend so much on our, military here's.

Speaker 1 (01:40:20):
Why it's a good. Reason, yes we destroyed the. Facilities
but the question is did they move the enriched materials
before the? Strike that is a question that. Remains and
AGAIN i dare dabble in an. AREA i am not an,
expert but you can have the, material but if you
don't have the equipment or the facilities to do anything with,

(01:40:41):
it is it going to do you much? GOOD i don't.
KNOW i don't know they answer that.

Speaker 5 (01:40:46):
QUESTION i think that's a fair. Point it can certainly be,
moved THOUGH i read a piece this morning talking about
you could essentially move these materials in. Cars it's that.
COMPACT i, guess so could readily. Move and it is
a fair quest question to, say, well, look you, know
did they go ahead and do? That did they take a?
Precaution that's a fair.

Speaker 1 (01:41:05):
Question and that brings me to this, question which just
leads to more. Questions but if if it's that simple to,
move the longer you tried to work out a diplomatic,
solution was that just The iranians buying time to you,
know bait and switch to move the facilities to move
these materials and the equipment. Necessary, AGAIN i don't have

(01:41:26):
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i remember When Jimmy carter would not support The shaw
and let the terrorists take over the, place says the.
TEXT i Believe iran is a country with. Camels if
they had a, nuke they couldn't do much with. It
the biggest threat is radiation from dirty. Bombs hopefully we
destroyed the. Centrifuges the fact That trump wears a Red

(01:46:13):
maga hat while he's doing his presidential duties shows his.
Loyalty doesn't care about the. Country it always only into
it for himself and his own pocket, book says The.
Texter nice use of pocket. BOOK i think the last
Person i've heard to use that term is my. Mamma
check the pocket. Book see if she's got any? Bubblegum,
yeah three or four talk three oh. Four weapons of

(01:46:34):
mass destruction was the main reason For iraq. War it's
the same For. Iran Was iraq a? Mistake more than
Likely iran will wind up being the same. Way we
don't have the attention span to turn enemies into allies
Like World war two Or South. Korea afghanistan And iraq
were prime, examples says The. Texter the other gem In. Martinsburg, hey,

(01:46:56):
guys isn't it odd that last Week maga Folks Rogan
carlson And Steve bennett were totally against the, Strike but
critics but crickets, now surely they haven't been threatened to shut.
UP i don't know how many times there was a
leak when The gang Of eight was informed of action
to be taken by the governments of a military. Strike
says The. Texter all, right we're all out of. Time

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