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and Jared Halper will join us from the White House.
That's just a taste. Good morning, TJ.
Speaker 7 (02:09):
Good morning ten o'clock. You know what that means. Speaker
Johnson is at the podium?
Speaker 6 (02:14):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Mad Mike? Mad Mike at the podium today?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Mad Mike?
Speaker 7 (02:17):
He just said Democrats in Washington are playing games. That's
the lower third caption from him. I feel like he's
missing something though. He could take a lesson from Governor Morrissey.
You know those big blue signs Morrissey puts on the
podium when he has a boom. I mean, there you go.
Johnson needs to get him a big blue sign on
the front of the podium.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Well, the print shops closed TJ the government's ship.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Surely they have like a fast signs or something in DC.
He can shell out for a few signs on his
own dime.
Speaker 7 (02:47):
But yeah, man, it continues sixteen days, ten hours, eight minutes,
and forty seconds at the mark.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
All right, we will check in in Washington coming up
just a couple of minutes from now. This time yesterday
we were telling about telling you about a first of
its kind public private partnership between the state and Diversified
Energy establishing the Mountain State Plugging Fund and innovative initiative
to plug and retire old oil and natural gas wells
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in West Virginia safely. This would represent a seventy million
dollar commitment from Diversified over the next twenty years. Yesterday,
Brad mcwheney mention, a WHO state wide correspondent, reached out
to the Surface Owners' Rights Organization here in West Virginia.
The statewide membership organization formed in two thousand and seven
for concerned landowners public to deal with oil and gas issues. Well,
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they had a lot of questions, not many answers. Joining
us on the program from the West Virginia Surface Owners
Rights Organization is David McMahon, David, good morning.
Speaker 8 (03:46):
Good morning, and thank you for having me on.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Appreciate you stopping by. Well heard you on with David
Amanda on midday yesterday. It sounded like you had more answers,
or more questions than answers, Dave, Have you been able
to get any answers to those questions in the last
day or so?
Speaker 8 (04:02):
Well? Not really, kind of more have more questions, I know,
I mean we kind of red flag to us is
who would benefit most of getting these wells plugged? Surface owners?
But the NOY contacts us to check us, to tell
us what it's about and see if we're good with
it or have suggestions. I mean, you know, I mean
it's a huge problem these orphaned wells in the state.
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There are seventy some thousand wells in the DET database,
and we think there's more than that. Twelve thousand of
them should already have been plugged because they haven't produced
for a year. There are five or seven thousand that
have gone unplugged so long that the operator has gone
out of business. They call those orphan dwells. And so
the idea is to prevent orphaned wells from happening. What
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we really need to do is have the legislature path
something that says as soon as the well is drilled,
when it's producing the most, that's when the driller should
start putting money into a private account with interests to
pay itself to the plug the well later. And this
seems to have a little bit of that, but there's
still there's still a bunch of questions that we have
about it. You know, the devil is in the details.
Speaker 7 (05:06):
Who should manage that account compt Should it be the
state or the individual? Driller should have an account? In
your opinion, it.
Speaker 8 (05:13):
Should be in a bank somewhere. We've already done this
with contested COVID mephane royalties. You want it in a
bank so the legislature won't take it, and you want
it in a bank so that the the credit is
of the company can't get at it in a kind
of trust like that. So you know, like this ensure
we've never heard of. We're trying to find out about it.
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Is it regulated by some state to make sure that
they don't take the money and run. You know that's
happened and the numbers just don't add up for us.
You know, they talked about seventy million sounds big could
turn into two hundred and sixty five million in twenty years. Ooh,
that's a twelve and a half percent interest rate return
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on the money. I wish I knew where they were
investing their money to get.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
That far in fright.
Speaker 8 (06:01):
Part of it is part of it just a balance
sheet game where if they if they relay this obligation
off onto this insurance company, then their balance sheet looks
better to potential investors and lenders. That's a possibility. I mean,
the real question is as much as that money sounds
like it's not enough to deal with even Diversified its problem.
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In twenty eighteen, Diversified reporter to the public that their
wells they've got would reach the end of their economic
lives in twenty forty eight and at that point, David
have according to another disclosure, they made like fifty thousand
wells across Appalachia. We know they've got twenty thousand wells
in West Virginia. If this is enough money to plug
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three thousand wells, there's you know, including there's two thousand
the diversitive I should already have plugged. So as I say,
lots and lots of questions.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
David McMahon joining US West Virginia Surface Owner's Rights Organization.
What is the risk to the surface owner if these
wells are left orphaned, unplugged, unretired.
Speaker 8 (07:08):
Well liquids can come up out of the well onto
the ground. Liquids on the ground like it rains on
your meadow and onto the cow pie, you can wash
down into your water table. The gas can come up
and into the water table. The gas being it can
interfere with future coal mining if the wells not plugged there.
And the biggest one for surface owners probably is that
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doesn't happen all the time, but it decreases your property value.
There's this well out there no longer producing, and you know,
somebody wants to buy your land here. I'm not so
sure they're gonna do it, or they're gonna want less money.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
So do you want to sit down with the state diversified?
Where do we go from here? How do you guys
get comfortable with this plan?
Speaker 8 (07:49):
Well, you know, it may it may in fact be
a small contributor, but you know, if you keep pouring
water in a bucket that has a hole in the bottom,
it's never going to fill up. We need to do
things to prevent orphan wells from happening in the first place.
Have companies start putting money away when they first start
producing so that they can, with interest over twenty thirty
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forty longer have enough money to pay themselves to plug
the wells later on.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Can we can we catch up? I mean, by your count,
twelve thousand that should be retired, as you know, seven
thousand n orth and we're talking somewhere in the neighborhood
of twenty thousand wells that need to be retired across
the state. Can we catch up? And there are more coming, David, Well.
Speaker 8 (08:34):
Maybe not, but we can certainly get the ones that
are the biggest problems and the ones that people care
about the most. And we should make every effort. And
again that we should plug the hole in the bottom
of the bucket, so at least new wells drilled, and
maybe when wells are transferred, people have to start putting
money away to plug them later. Because mean, traditionally in
West Virginia, big companies like EQUT, big rich companies that
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will drill the wells and then and then producing. Yeah,
and well well production declined quickly. That's sixty percent off
maybe the first year, another sixty percent reduction now to
produce the small amounts for years and years, and at
that point EQT would sell them or other companies not
just EQUT would sell them off to small producers. I
those small producers would milk them for a while, and
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then those guys that go out of business and diversified.
As diversified, the original sin is putting that on steroids.
When they bought hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of wells
from the big producers, and we know that they're not
going to have enough money eventually to plug them all.
Speaker 7 (09:33):
Yeah, but I mean, in fairness, they're kicking seventy million
dollars in and some of these wells, to your point,
we don't know who drilled them. They've been around forever.
I guess from a triage perspective, wouldn't it be better
to go after wells that we know about and these
ones that have been out there for a long time
that aren't producing that somebody well, you know, they dug
the well back in how many ever years ago. It's
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best just to leave those alone, focus on the ones
that are really the problems, Like you say, and that's
seventy million dollars in that case, if it grows, would
go pretty.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Far, wouldn't it.
Speaker 8 (10:03):
Well, the world there's two different worlds. There's orphaned wells
and then there's the unplugged wells that still have a
responsible operator, and that's diversified. They've got, you know, two
thousand wells that should already be plugged and so this
is this is a process that they want to deal
with that and to be fair, yeah, this may be
a small dent in the bucket, and congrats for that,
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but but it's a red flag to us when we
have these questions and they didn't talk to us ahead
of time.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
David McMahon, he is with the West Virginia Surface Owners
Rights Organization. David, appreciate the perspective this morning. Thank you
very much.
Speaker 8 (10:39):
Thank you for having me on Man.
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Absolutely coming up, we'll go to the White House check
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Three at four Talk three at four is the text
line eight hundred and seven to sixty five talk. The
phone number steamerly is a little bit over an hour
from now. President President Trump confirmed on Wednesday he's authorized
the CIA to conduct covert operations inside of Venezuela said
he was weighing carrying out land operations in the country. Also,
(12:33):
Democrats in the Senate are considering Man Tim Kaine is
leading that effort to force a vote to stop the
president from unilaterally declaring war on the South American nation.
We're war with Venezuela. Okay, let's go to Fox News
radios to Chart Helper. Maybe he can explain. Jared, good morning.
Speaker 11 (12:53):
Yeah, that vote did not succeed his part of Okay,
defense policy, but listen, it's we talk a lot about
kind of Congress and listen, I think they're gonna have
stand alone votes that they could certainly try this again,
and they may. Is this intensifies, especially if you start
to see strikes inside of Venezuela. Right now, these have
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been votes that are alleged by the administration to be
drug trafficking vessels that are being taken out in international waters.
But it is clear that President Trump is threatening to
expand these operations against cartels in what the administration has
described as narco terrorist organizations. But listen, Congressional authority is
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only as good as Congress using that authority. Right, So
it's true with tariffs, and it's true with war. Congress
has not authorized any of this, and there certainly have
been some complaints on both sides of the aisle, but
you've not seen, to your point, kind of Congress force
Boes on this to kind of get involved, at least
(14:02):
not yet.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
So if we go here, I mean, is this thing
over like two hours after it starts, Jared, I would
imagine Venezuela would be of little consequence militarily in terms
of director.
Speaker 11 (14:14):
I mean, I don't want to get ahead of where
we are here. I think it's going to depend on
what the nature of this is. But again, this also
could sort of be warnings that the president is putting
out there. The United States, not just with disadministration, but
in previous administrations as well, has done a lot to
(14:34):
increase relations in South America, in Latin America, improve relations
with Columbia, improved relations with Brazil, although that is kind
of still on the rocks, improve relations with Peru and
a lot of these other countries in South America. And
part of that is an isolation campaign targeting Venezuela. As
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Venezuela continues to align with China, align with Russia, and
remember the Maduro regime, the Maduro government is not the
recognized government internationally, certainly not the United States. They believe
that Maduro lost the last election and has not left power.
So again, a lot of this is not new in
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the sense that the United States has had animosity with Venezuela.
But President Trump has talked about Maduro and has talked
about Venezuela in a different way where he believes that
there has been some intentionality on the part of not
just drug cartels, but on the Venezuelan government itself to
(15:45):
flood the US with you know, undocumented immigrants, with migrants
and with drugs. So we'll see if this intradiction campaign expands.
But again, the President has been kind of cagey about it.
It is notable that he acknowledged that he had authorized
CIA operations in Venezuela. I mean, I think that most
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people would understand that we would have CIA operations in
a lot of places around the world. You just generally
don't hear the President of the United States acknowledge them.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Talking to Fox News Radios, Jared Halpern, is this a
situation where I guess you could call it Trump's political
acumen kicks in. Yeah, we have this conversation about congressional authority.
Congressional power is Trump overstepping. But at the same time,
is there going to be a lot of public pushback
if you are taking out drug cartels? Doesn't seem like
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there would be.
Speaker 11 (16:40):
Well again, I think it depends on on kind of
the nature and what the public perceives. I mean, it
defends how you're doing it. Would there be public outcry
if we have boots on the ground in Venezuela. I
think that would be viewed differently than drones or aircraft
taking out drug boats. At the same time, you were
going to have civil rights groups and civil libertarians and
those kind of minded lawmakers and members of the public
(17:03):
who are going to express questions and concern about how
these operations are being taken out. But listen, every military
operation is kind of viewed through the lens I think,
by and large from the American public of what the
risk is and what the reward is, right, what's the mission,
and kind of what that looks like. I think it
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is very different to sort of view an operation like
we've seen with these five boats being blown out of
the water versus you know, a sustained conflict in a
foreign country.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
To any degree that we use any kind of military
force in that region that would fall to US Southern Command.
A combatant commander says he's stepping out. How does that
affect this story? What's the angle there?
Speaker 11 (17:50):
We'll see this broke yesterday. You're right, the commander is
stepping down. I think at the end of the year
he will be replaced. That replacement, I believe will have
to be Senate confirmed. Usually there are Senate hearings with
those types of positions, and so that might also be
an opportunity for Congress to ask questions about what's happening here.
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You've already seen the Democrats that lead the Armed Services
Committee say that they want to have hearings about this
mission and this resignation and kind of.
Speaker 8 (18:21):
The path forward.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Fox News Radios Jared Halpin got a couple of minutes left.
Jared John Bolton turns himself in. He's been indicted for
misuse or mishandling of classified documents. Where ever heard that before?
Speaker 11 (18:33):
Yeah, this goes back several years. The Justice Department in
a eighteen count indictment accusing Bolton essentially of transmitting classified
information to relatives. It's believed to be his wife and daughter,
and of holding on to classified information well beyond his
(18:55):
time in public office. Remember he was the National Security
Advisor at one time. For sident Trump became a big
Trump critic soon thereafter, has been viewed by President Trump,
as he called him yesterday, a bad guy. So, you know,
we've heard from John Bolton, his attorneys, who say that
this is political, that the charges here have been investigated,
(19:19):
have been cleared, that the FBI was aware of some
of this stuff going back to like twenty twenty one,
and that they are looking forward here to the trial.
That initial hearing I think happened this morning, and we'll
see kind of how that moves forward. But it's definitely,
at least from Bolton's point of view, being seen in
the same light as some of these other high profile
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indictments we've seen of political foes of the president.
Speaker 7 (19:44):
Jared talk to us about the Chinese tariff situation. We
haven't had a chance to focus on that with the
other news that's been happening.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
What's the latest.
Speaker 11 (19:52):
Trump says that he's going to put new tariffs one
hundred percent on China starting November first. It's important to
remember that he has made these threats and has made
these reciprocal threats a lot over the last several months
as they continue to kind of work through these trade disputes.
The latest dispute is kind of twofold one. China has
stopped buying all American soybeans, is a result of earlier
(20:15):
tariffs that is having a huge impact on the agriculture
industry in the United States. China then last week indicated
that they were going to put export controls essentially limit
exports of these rare earth minerals, these critical minerals that
are needed for batteries, for electronics, for missile defense systems,
for a whole host of products, both militarily and consumer base.
(20:39):
President Trump has been furious about that, has said that
this is holding the world hostage, that this is a
hostile act. That is when he put forward this plan
to put one hundred percent tariff on Chinese products, an
additional one hundred percent tariff on Chinese products beginning November first,
but that is after the two leaders, Trump and She
(21:02):
are expect to meet in about two weeks at a
summit in South Korea. Sometimes those conversations have been enough
to at least reduce the temperature and you know, kind
of pulled back these tariff threats. Gott Vessent, the Treasury Secretary,
is already having conversations with his Chinese counterpart. So we'll
see where this goes over the next couple of weeks,
but it could be a pretty important meeting here between
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President Trump and President.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
She Fox News Radio Jared Hauburn from the White House. Jared,
always appreciated. Have a great weekend, all right. Coming up,
doctors trying to regain trust, especially when it comes to vaccines.
We'll talk about that on the other side of the
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West Virginia Metro News. I'm Jeff Jenkins. The State Public
Service Commission says, if you own a utility poll and
it's been tagged for replacement, it's the poll owner's responsibility
to replace it. The condition for existing poles. It's been
an issue in broadband expansion efforts in the Mountain State.
The PSC says it shouldn't be in order issue this
week included straightforward language to utilities and broadband providers. It's
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time to get on the same page with POE attachment agreements.
Capal County Delegate Daniel Membo says, it shouldn't be this difficult.
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It seems like every time someone wants to build broadband,
you've got to re engineer it, figure out how old
the utility pole is, how tall it is, all these
various things. But it's the same pole it was twenty
years ago. Right, It's largely got the same stuff on
it as twenty years ago.
Speaker 12 (22:38):
The PSC says, if here's the disagreements are keeping the
state from taking advantage of federal money available for broadband expansion.
Natural gas producer Diversified Energy and the state entering into
an agreement that will finance the capping of natural gas
wells for decades to come. The versifyve will put seventy
million dollars in the new Mountain State Plugging Fund over
twenty years. The Versified Energy ce arrest the Hudson says,
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after that the money can find and that's properly capping
the wells.
Speaker 14 (23:01):
As the well's become uneconomic over a long period of time,
to be able to make sure that they are responsibly
retired and that it doesn't become a burden on the
taxpayers of West Virginia. And we've accomplished that with this agreement.
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Vandelia Health is going with a known quantity to be
the health system's next president and CEO. The board is
named CEMC Chief Financial Officer Jeff Sandine to the post
beginning next summer. The state Public Service Commissioner says it's
heard enough complaints from customers to Black Diamond Power to
launch a general investigation into the utilities, service and billing.
That'll take place over the next couple of months. And
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it's the coldest morning we've had in West Virginia months.
There was some frost and freezing in some parts of
the state. From the Metro News anchor desk, I'm Jeff Jenkins.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
One hour from now, steam release, Prepare your steams now
eight hundred and seven to sixty five talk and three
h four talk three o four. It's your weekly chance
to vent. Before you get to the weekend. Do you
have any frost on the windshield this morning? Down in
the valley Christer.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Bed frost fog.
Speaker 17 (25:27):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
I even turned the heater on the seat. I turned
that on this morning, partially because my back was a
little sore. You know, heat on the back feels good.
But yeah, it's cold enough to do it, I go,
I go to work early enough. It had not frosted yet.
It was frosting. It was in the midst of doing
that this morning, but it was chilly. Had to turn
the heater on in the vehicle. We almost we almost
(25:53):
turned the furnace on last night.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
We haven't done that yet. We play this game with
ourselves every year at my house, how long can we
go before we turned the furnace on? And we felt
like we just couldn't do it.
Speaker 7 (26:03):
In October, it was sixty six in the house when
I woke up this morning, and I absolutely adore that.
I like, I would love to sleep at sixty Yeah,
oh yeah, sleep, you'll like it cold.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
One of the best night sleeps I've ever got. ToJ Well,
and we'll get to our gas tournament. Who's probably bored
with us already. It was actually during a power outage
in winter. I was home alone. Jenna was out of town,
the dogs were at the in law's house. I was
home alone. The power was out, and I went, you
know what, I'm gonna go to bed early. I'm going
to have to have a long drive into work because
(26:35):
it was I think it was ice was the problem.
But it was kind of cold in the house. You
throw on a couple of extra blankets and a quilt,
slept like a rock that night. Luckily the power came
back all the next day because the next night was
going to be way too cold. All that ambient heat
was going to be gone at that point. Yeah, but yeah,
I mean that point where you got to kick it on.
But to your point, yeah, I enjoyed a little cold
when I sleep.
Speaker 8 (26:56):
All Right.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
We have been in the midst of the vaccines and
religion exemption discussion for the better part of a year now.
We've talked about the legal wranglings surrounding them. We've debated vaccines.
We've talked about the bills when they were introduced, the legislature,
the efficacy of vaccines, their effectiveness, all the above. We've
been through this and one of the things that I
have contended throughout this conversation is that one we have
(27:20):
this mistrust of institutions in general, and that includes medical
institutions that she used to just trust them. We've lost
that and regaining that is going to not be is
not going to come about by anything we say on
this show, or copyrights or some study that gets published
in the New England Journal of Medicine. It's going to
(27:40):
be on one on one interactions between patients and physicians.
And wouldn't you know what, It came across this article
in the Dispatch this week how a pediatrician earns trust
in a time of vaccine doubt. You have my attention.
Grayson log is the author of that article. He joins
us on Metro News talk Line on loan from the Dispatch. Grayson,
(28:02):
good morning, Waynette, I turned up the wrong pot. Grayson,
good morning, good morning.
Speaker 18 (28:09):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Appreciate you coming on. So what led you down this
rabbit hole?
Speaker 18 (28:13):
Yeah, it would just really kind of keep in my
ear to the ground. Friend of a friend has a
pediatrician brother who was talking about the prevalence of these
policies at pediatric offices across the country where they will
actually dismiss families who refuse some we're all vaccines from
their pediatric practice. They have a dismissal policy. And I
(28:35):
don't have any kids yet, I've yet to be at
a pediatric officer. This is just a new thing to me.
I didn't really even realize this was a thing that
a private practice could have as a policy. And Doug
Moore into the story to find out that a large portion.
We don't have super great data, but as a twenty
nineteen survey, fifty percent of pediatric practices across the country
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have some version of this policy. And so that doesn't
mean that if you refuse one vaccine you'll necessarily be dismissed.
There's some gradations. A lot of these practices would let
a family like spread out vaccines beyond what's recommended in
the schedule, but still fifty percent having some type of policy,
and some of them are pretty If you refuse one
according to outside the timeline recommended the schedule, you will
(29:17):
be dismissed. Really caught me by surprise.
Speaker 7 (29:20):
And in your reporting, I would assume it's become clear
that we're not talking about COVID here. We're talking about
traditional vaccines that have been dispensed to our children for
some time.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Correct.
Speaker 18 (29:32):
Yeah, that's right, and that to what you were just
saying a little bit ago. This part of this wave
of distrust that we've seen. We saw some of this
obviously before the pandemic, but it's really exploded since the pandemic.
People lost a lot of faith in public health institutions,
and a lot of this is just rolling all downhill
to when you go into see your pediatrician, and a
(29:53):
lot of this is falling on the pediatrician to deal
with a chaotic information environment, people not sure what to
believe about vaccines anymore, some weird statements coming from HHS
like this is a strange environment to operate in. But
one of the good things about this kind of bad
situation is that pediatricians still remain basically the most widely
(30:16):
trusted authority on vaccines if you go through like politicians
or public health professionals or agencies like the CDC. All
of that has gone downhill. But there was a survey
last week from the KFF and Washington Post and they
found that eighty five percent overall and this Republican Democrat
independent eighty five percent still trust their pediatricians on vaccine,
(30:38):
which is a great a great place to be even
amidst widespread vaccine skepticism these days.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Talking with Grayson Logi's a rider for The Dispatch, has
an article how pediatricians eren trust at a time of
vaccine doubt. So you spoke to a couple of pediatricians
who aren't dismissing their patients, are discharging them. They are,
they're working with them. So how are they trying to
regain this trust and handle the issue?
Speaker 18 (31:01):
Yeah? Absolutely. And one of the pediatricians that I spoke to,
he actually found out that by some way, he was
put on this list on a like a vaccine skeptical website,
and people were starting to come to him by way
of this website. And at first he was kind of
nervous about it. Was he's a board certified pediatrician and
he believes in the efficacy in vaccine, wants people to
(31:23):
get vaccinated. But then he thought about it for a
little bit and he's like, no, actually, like, these are
the type of people I want to be having conversations with.
I want to hear their fears, I want to hear
their concerns. I want them to be exposed to good medicine,
and so starting from that place of compassion empathy with
people taking them where they're at and while still being
clear about what you think is good science and what
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your kind of boundaries are as a doctor. And his
experience is that maybe these people don't get all vaccines,
but over time, the majority of people that he interacts
with that have come into this office being skeptical or
not wanting any vaccines, they will get some, at least
some or even most within the schedule over time because
they've built this relationship of trust over time, as opposed
(32:04):
to kind of hitting a hard barrier just from the
beginning when you first meet your doctor and they're basically
you have to do this or you can't be a
part of this practice.
Speaker 7 (32:12):
I'm curious if you found anything that would detail the
inverse of that, And I'm thinking about the prevalence of
social media today. This has been a while back, but
there was a conversation that I got linked into or
tagged in.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
I forget.
Speaker 7 (32:27):
I don't think the individual was a pediatrician, was a
general practitioner, but there was a doctor sure appeared like
they were advocating that you don't want to take these vaccines.
Is that why we are where we are because fifteen
percent opting out there are some physicians for whatever reason,
that may go the other way on this, and I
(32:49):
would think that's some level of a factor in all this.
Speaker 18 (32:53):
Yeah, it's certainly a factor. There is like such a
diversity of medical opinion, and that's why I think it's
so so important for people to have access to kind
of the best sources of medical information, even at the
at the pediatric level. So that just creates all the
more understanding that if you're a new parent, you don't
really know who to listen to. You've seen some doctor
(33:14):
on social media saying something, and that might be right
about like one study or like a reading of one's study,
but you really, when you're dealing with these types of issues,
you have to kind of discriminate by what is the
most well supported evidence, Like what is the best evidence
that we have, both from the studies but just from
the experience of decades some of these vaccines have been
(33:34):
in the system and how successful they are at preventing
some really bad childhood diseases. And I think that's why
it's important that doctors or doctor Andrew Miller's the one
that I spoke to or willing to have these conversations.
And a lot of people I think, are are starting
to come around to these dismissal policies, which were originally
well intentioned. If you go back, they start maybe like
(33:55):
ten twelve years ago, really picking up space. And the
idea back then was a lot of people being under
vaccinated or not receiving some vaccines. It was more due
to complacency in a lot of instances where they're just like, oh,
it's like do I really need to get that measicle
shot that's like one shot today, maybe I won't get it,
And a lot of practices kind of went along with
it because the prevalence of it was lower. But now
as the prevalence of that has gone up, and as
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it's coming from a place of distrust or fear, a
dismissal policy that might have been a helpful nudge to
one pairent a decade ago to get that extra shot,
that's driving people away now, and it's driving them to
bad sources of medical information because they are are shut
out of a lot of these clinics.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
So we're talking to Grace and Love with the dispatch
are more clinics, more physicians kind of adopting this Okay,
we'll work with you policy.
Speaker 18 (34:42):
I hope. So again, this is all anecdotal. So the
last like national study we have on this was twenty nineteen,
which is before the pandemic. It's a while ago. But
you see some examples, Like there's one example I referenced
in the article about a health department in Michigan which
was originally on the pro dismissal side of this, and
they were encouraging local pediatric offices to adopt these policies
(35:03):
until they realize that, oh wait, like we don't actually
know once a family's dismissed, where are they going to
get medical care? Where are they going to get information
about vaccines? And they've done a one eighty on the
issue and want to take this approach that folks like
doctor Miller, who I spoke to, our taking, which is
we need to meet people where they are, get them
access to good medical information, and even if they don't
do what we would prescribe, we need to stay in
(35:25):
relationship and stay engaging these folks, even for issues outside
of vaccines, like if you want to most people to
have access to the best medical information for their kids,
vaccines are not and I think that's hopefully that's a
reckoning that we can see. We can see more of
happening across the country.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Rais doctor Miller had success? Do we know? Is he
changing minds?
Speaker 18 (35:48):
He says, yeah, yes, he definitely is. And again, it's
not if you take the framework that if you refuse
one vaccine in the schedule that's a failure, then he's
probably not having the most success. But if you take
someone who's convinced that they want to get no vaccines
for their kids and they start to take twenty percent
of the schedule or half of the schedule, like that's successful.
(36:08):
And I would argue that's successful. You're reducing the risk
of that kid. You're improving like public health for that community.
And I think he has had success on that front
for most of these new patients that are coming to
him with some vaccine questions and skepticisms.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Grayson log The article is how a pediatrician earns trust
in a time of vaccine doubt. It's at the Dispatch
dot com. It's a good read. Grayson, appreciate it. Good work,
thank you, Yeah, thank you very much. Absolutely, we appreciate it.
Coming up We'll change gears w on the road at
UCF this weekend. Brad Howell joins US next.
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More here before talk three or four is the text
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That is the phone number going to get Brad Howe
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on the line. Didn't put up the call screener this
morning for some reason, TJ.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Brad's a big get man. I mean, you know, we
got to work around him.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Well, you know, I'm happy to do that. He's at
basketball practice, he's got these podcasts to do, he's got
to manage Hopey Kerchieval. I mean, it's a tough gig, guys,
It's tough gig. Brad Hall joins this much a news
talk line.
Speaker 20 (38:36):
Morning Brad, Good morning fellas. You know we're in that
we're in that sweet spot of sports.
Speaker 8 (38:41):
Now.
Speaker 20 (38:41):
Football's rolling, we still got half a season left. Basketball
is underway. Secret scrimmage that isn't secret anymore coming up
tomorrow for the Mountaineers, So we're we're off and rolling.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Boy, you know what I thought of, Brad when I
heard about the secret scrimmage. The first thing that jumped
to my mind was the legendary closed scrimmage between the
dream Yeah, when those guys scream at each other. Yeah, yeah,
I doubt it's quite to that level, but you know that's.
Speaker 5 (39:06):
What jumped to my mind.
Speaker 20 (39:07):
Yeah, that took like ten years for us to get
footage out of that. These so called secret scrimmages, the
box scorers somehow find their way out about thirty seconds
after the game constantly. Now we're to the point I
didn't even realize this. Guys, not to get sidetrackedor I know,
you want to talk about football, but Ross even brought
it up this week in his press conference, mentioned that
they were playing Maryland and talked about it. So I guess,
(39:28):
I guess, as we often say, no rules in college
sports anymore. Now, thank god, we can talk about these
secrets scrim I.
Speaker 7 (39:33):
Mean, why do I talk about Well, to your point,
I take a lot of comfort in the fact nobody
can keep a secret. That's how I know we don't
have aliens in a vault at Roswell.
Speaker 20 (39:43):
You know what does happen though in the in the
closed practices. You know, coaches are about the most paranoid
group on earth, So everybody's worried that the other side
is going to leak out their side of the story
of how the scrimmage went right, So nobody wants to
be the one that says that, no, no, no, that's not
that's not what we actually won the scrimmage. So you
get a lot of that in these closed scrimmages. And
(40:03):
I wonder how long this will go on, guys, because
there's a lot of schools now that are using their
two scrimmage opportunities to do them both live like open
to the public. West Virginia this season is doing it
one in one the closed against Maryland coming up and
then Wheeling will be the public exhibition coming up next Sunday.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Brad, I'm sorry I have to say this.
Speaker 7 (40:23):
It reminds me of when we decided not to keep
the scoring t ball and all the parents are over
there keeping the scory.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
Anyway, that's what it reminds me.
Speaker 8 (40:30):
That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
That's a good point, all right, Brad, handicap this one
tomorrow Mountaineers in Orlando to take on Central Florida.
Speaker 20 (40:38):
Yeah, both teams are kind of mirror images of each other,
So it's start with the coaches. Scott Frost has been
at UCF before left and then has come back rich
same thing. Both had high levels of success when they
were there the first time. Both in total rebuild modes.
The injury situation has been very similar. They're bouncing between
quarterbacks because of injuries they've had. On the UCF side,
(41:00):
we know that's been West Virginia's case as well at
the quarterback position. A couple of things I'm watching here,
first and foremost defensively for WBU. Can they now go
against an offensive line that probably isn't at the same
level that its last three opponents have been. When I
talk about Kansas and Utah and BYU, we've seen West
Virginia's pressure completely disappear in those games. My hope for
(41:22):
the Mountaineers is tomorrow you're able to get a little
more pressure and that shows up much more like it
did against Pitt where that really helped you.
Speaker 17 (41:29):
Win the game.
Speaker 20 (41:29):
On the offensive side, UCS defense has been very good,
especially if you just look at their numbers statistically, they're
having a great season.
Speaker 21 (41:38):
Now.
Speaker 20 (41:38):
The one little caveat there is if you dive a
little bit deeper, their numbers against the run haven't been great.
So that's a good matchup on paper for a West
Virginia team that wants to run it first and foremost.
Speaker 8 (41:49):
So those are really the first.
Speaker 20 (41:50):
Two things I'm looking at. Can West Virginia coming off
of by extra week to prepare why UCF had to play,
take advantage of the situation, run the football and a
little pressure defensively if.
Speaker 7 (42:02):
You're running his staff? How do you get your team
mentally prepared for this? Because I think we would all
agree no one cares about this game outside u CFWVU,
But you need this. This is a big win that
you need in order to propel yourself forward. How do
you get the guys honed in to the right frame
of mind where they're concentrated their focus, but they're not
overly burdened by the mental aspect of what's going on here.
Speaker 20 (42:23):
Yeah, it's a good point, TJ. And I think coaches
and players often say this. I think there's a couple
of scenarios, and I think one of the truisms that
comes out from what teams say is it's sometimes easier
for them to focus because they're just they're so consumed
with what's next, what do we do on Friday? What
happens on Saturday? Next play? And they're just playing the game.
They're not looking big picture at all. The ramifications, So
(42:45):
I think that helps. I think number two, when you
have a coach like Ritz that's as intense and demanding
as he is and is in year one, you're still
working your way up the mountaintop, and I think that
generally brings a bigger level of buy in or you
have to be concerned less when the mental letdowns from
guys that are looking for roster spots for next season
versus coaches that may be on their way out the
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door where teams have checked out. So until I see differently,
I'm going to assume this Mountaineer team will be ready
to go in these games and you'll get their best effort.
Now the question will just become is their best effort
good enough to get these wins?
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Brad forget what? Of course you want to see them
Mountaineers win, But what else do you want to see?
What are you watching for as this year one or
year zero? Cop he's calling it, you're zero for Rich Rodriguez.
Your zero continues coming off this bye week.
Speaker 20 (43:32):
Yeah, it's a great question, because I think that's where
you are when you have a team that's struggling like
it is in West Virginia. So I've said this guys.
I think it's a couple of things for me, and
this is one of those great things us in the
media and fans can talk in these terms. You will
never hear Rich or the coaches say this because they're
simply trying to win the game what helps them win
on Saturday. But I think from my perspective, what I'm
(43:53):
watching over these next six games is how many guys
do you have on this roster that you want back
and that can contribute next year to moving this program forward?
Because I think that's going to be a critical question
this offseason is what does the rebuild next year look like.
Are you back to having to get eighty guys again
and we know how hard that is to turn things
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or can you get that number closer to sixty which
gives you some continuity. And the two positions I'm looking
at first and foremost one along the offensive line. You've
got to find out what you've got on that offensive line,
how many of those guys can be staples of this
program next year versus how many are you going to
have to go out and get. And then I think
the next obvious position there is quarterback. You're going to
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see a heavy dose of the two young guys Khalil
Wilkins and Scotti Fox or maybe in reverse order, Scotty
Fox and Khalil Wilkins. The rest of the way here,
and what do you have in each of those guys?
Are those guys that can be somebody you build around
moving forward that just need the rep so offensive line
and quarterback in particular, but really overall on this roster,
how many guys are willing to put forth the effort
(44:56):
and show the talent needed to be back in this
group next year?
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Bring up us around full circle back to scrimmages. Did
you see Dion Sanders out in Colorado? How to scrimmage
for the guys that are probably going to enter the
portal so they could have some film to send out
to other schools.
Speaker 20 (45:11):
Well, we're in a different day and era for that,
aren't we. You never see that before. It's not actually
not a bad idea from a recruiting standpoint.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Yeah, okay, Coach Prime, he's doing something. I don't know
if it's the right thing or the wrong thing, but
he's doing something all right. You, of course can get
up to date ready to go for the game of
the Three Guys. Podcast over wv Metro News dot com. Brad,
Tony and Hoppy. We'll recap it all on Sunday. Brad,
appreciate it.
Speaker 20 (45:34):
Thank you all right, Thanks Ells, appreciate you having me.
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So it's okay you guys play you guys, cut it tight.
You guys are technically daredevil's and I'm here for it.
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Well, I saw you pop on to the zoom and
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hear the whole, you know, big intro there, which was
very good today I must say.
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Well, I'm I'm sure it was excellent. I'm sure it was.
Many people are saying it was the best introduction ever
to an eleven am hour broadcast radio. So many people.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
TJ said, if he gets canny, he's gonna be a
financial advisor. I'll probably end up at Walmart. Did do
you ever get any thought to what you would have
done had the newspaper, you know, being an inkstained wretch
not worked out well?
Speaker 5 (50:07):
I mean I've closed a couple newspapers I got out
of the Charleston Daily Mail right before they torpedoed it
right under the waterline. The news industry is Many people
today say that this period of contraction in the news industry,
(50:28):
the period of contraction in the news industry goes back
to the mid nineteen nineties. So it is. It is true.
But my whole career has been in a contracting news industry,
and the reason to do news is vocational, not career oriented.
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You do this in the same way that people become teachers,
or people become firefighters or police officers or whatever, which
is to say, it's something you care about and it's
something that's important to you. The late great Bob Kelly,
the guy who I think is to blame for me
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working in this business in a lot of ways. I started.
He was the one who gave me my first job
in the Wheeling intelligence or sports department, and I ended
up working for him in Charleston at the Daily Mail,
and I followed in his footsteps as the political editor
at the Daily Mail. Just a really important person in
(51:33):
my life. And Bob b Kay would when I would
complain about low pay or long hours or whatever, he
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You ever thought about selling insurance? Did I got? I
know a guy out in cross Lanes got a state
farm agencies looking to pass maybe And how dare you?
(51:55):
How could you say that? Not that there's anything wrong
with selling insurance, but I'm a newsman, and uh he
would do that to tease me and to remind me
that this is vocational uh, not that no one chooses
this business because it is a growth industry with lots
of job security.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
I'll record, I'll echo those sentiments. So, since we're talking
about media and you literally wrote the book on what's
broken with the American media, Chris Stirewell, this week we
saw all but one, I guess major news organizations say thanks,
but no, thanks for not going to sign the new
press guidelines for the Pentagon turning the badges. They walk out,
(52:38):
which major news which made?
Speaker 5 (52:39):
Which major news organization signed?
Speaker 1 (52:41):
Okay, I guess I just put America News one or whatever.
Speaker 4 (52:45):
That's that's a bit of a stretch.
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Okay, it's a stretch. It's a long strech major all right,
So nobody signed it. But how does this thing actually end?
Is this how it ends?
Speaker 5 (52:59):
Well, here's here's how it will end. It will end
because by poking so owning the Libs is it feels
so good, right if you're in a small university. Let's
take Let's take the ways in which the story of
the thirty something year old Republicans who were very fond
(53:22):
of Holocaust jokes and rape humor whose group chat was released.
Here are two distinct ways that that was handled. One
was JD. Vance said I'm not going to clutch at
my pearls over this with the stakes are too high,
and then win some earl Serius who's running for governor
(53:43):
in Virginia, was like, yeah, they should all resign their jobs.
They should all be out, and by the way, so
should Jay Jones, the Democratic candidate for lieutenant governor, who
sent equally wretched kind of texts, but his were of
intended to inflict emotional harm on one of his former colleagues.
So those are the two ways to go. They have
(54:06):
different needs.
Speaker 6 (54:07):
JD.
Speaker 5 (54:07):
Vance is running for president and the first thing he
has to do is convince the Republican primary electorate that
he is in I don't think he is a psycho,
but he's got to convince him that he's a psycho. Right,
He's got to say no one's getting to my right,
nobody's meaner than me, nobody hates Democrats more than I do.
Because that's the danger for him, is that Tucker Carlson
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or somebody will slip into his right. Megan Kelly's talking
about running for president, so the danger of the advance
faces is that somebody gets to his right wins more.
El Series is trying to get elected in Virginia, a
state that is Democratic leanning, and she needs a lot
of independent voters, so she had a different audience. Long
way of saying, Pete Hegseeth believes that if he can
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convince the forty thirty five percent of Americans who are
like Maga, dig It love it, that he is just
pommeling the news media, then that will be good. The problem,
of course, is is that when you do this to
people who have spent thirty years and who are really
well sourced in this world, when you do this, does
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it make them say, well, you got us, you got
the better of us. I guess will go away. Now,
of course, they will quadruple their efforts. They will devote
their lives to finding out stuff. And I will further
say that of all of the places where the relationship
between the subjects and the press. There's a lot of
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problems with the ways in which and this happens even
on the state level, in which reporters who covered beats
are treated like penned ducks that they come out and
feed them handfuls of grain periodically and say, okay, now
go quack over there. We'll let you know when it's
feeding time again. There is a problem with that, But
the problem is for news consumers and for the cunt.
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It works really well for people in power to have
the ducks in a pen. And this so now the
ducks are out of the pen. And I tend to
doubt that this will redound to Pete Hegsett's benefit in
the long term.
Speaker 7 (56:16):
But certainly he knows that. I mean, I don't think
you have to be, you know, a rocket surgeon, as
we used to say, to understand what you're talking about here.
So does he go back to this narrative that, look,
even if it bites me later, a political win today
is worth more than any trouble all face over heat.
Speaker 5 (56:35):
John, We don't don't don't attribute to strategy what can
be explained by incompetence. I think in a lot of cases.
What happens in politics is people people's mouths write checks
that their posteriors cannot cash. They start stuff, and then
they don't feel like they can back down. And so
(56:56):
the in the JD Vance construction, you never backed down,
You never clutch your pearls, you never say I'm sorry,
you never say uh, that's not actually what we meant
for this policy to do. And we're going to work
with you and talk to you to figure out a
way that we can both get what we want out
of this. That's incredible, said by the way, well, yeah,
but but here's the thing. We don't like social media
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because social media is too good of a reflection of
human nature.
Speaker 23 (57:24):
Right.
Speaker 5 (57:24):
It's the accuracy of social media that we don't like,
because it holds a mirror up to our society and
we look at it and we go, gross, who's that?
And it's like it's it's sort of like me when
I see myself here, I'm like, who is that fat
old man? I don't know who that guy is. But
one of the consequences of social media, of course, is
that things once said are much harder to unsay, right,
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So people take positions they adopt opinions, they post them online.
They're like, well, I don't care what anybody says, this
is how I feel about X and so, and then
what have Later, when you want to do what people
always do and should do, which is reevaluate through positions,
what do you get? You get your old tweet screen
capped with this you question mark yeah this you bro
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this you. And the disincentive is to hold on to
bad opinions longer or not to acknowledge change because you're
afraid of being called a hypocrite. But as you guys know,
hipocrisy is not Virtue is better than actual virtue is
better than hypocrisy, but hypocrisy is way better than unvirtuous consistency.
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And we have a problem where so on these drug
boats or maybe not sometimes drug boats, and now we
have some injured people that the navy. Did the Navy
rescue the people or not rescue the people. So the
Trump administration has made an affirmative declaration that it has
declared war on transnational drug gangs and therefore can kill
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people in summary execution, can order the Navy to kill
people on the high seas. That's a pretty big botsa
ball to have hanging out there, and then you follow
it up with oh, yeah, and the CIA covert? Is
it covert? I guess not. The CIA is ready to
strike ground targets in Venezuela.
Speaker 4 (59:21):
It was on a low third two minutes ago. So yeah,
it's covert.
Speaker 5 (59:25):
Yeah. So now we don't have a Congress to speak of. Uh,
And these people will not stand up. They would much
rather much rather fight the other party than fight another branch.
And so consequently we just don't have a Congress to
speak of right now. And it's shameful, it's pitiful, it's
bad for the country. But the administration, having taken the
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affirmative statement and saying it very publicly, I don't care
who dies. Boohoo, I don't care, is now in a
position where can they say, well, actually, we didn't mean
to kill that one guy. It sounds like that guy
was actually just hitching a run. No, you can't say that.
You can't clutch your pearls. You've got to say anyone
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who is concerned about this does not love America and
the the h did you see the posts from Graham Plattner,
who is the he is the main lobsterman who is
running for Senate up there against Susan Collinson, and it
was there was some some LULUs, there were some doozies
(01:00:28):
in there about like you gotta have semiautos, like any
populist revolts got to have some semiatos, bro and like
I'm I'm basically a communist now. And he said a
bunch of stuff, and it was like twenty twenty one,
and he deleted all the posts, and CNN caught him
and they said, what about it. He did have a
very funny line. He said a bunch of awful things
about Ted Nugent, he said. He said, I regret it all.
I regret all the things I said, and it was
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I was being hot tempered online and I'm very sorry
about that, he said, but not about the Ted Nugent one.
And I got I gotta give him, I gotta give
him a credit on that. That's like when Donald Trump said,
when he was confronted with many of the things he
had said about women, he said, only Rosie O'Donnell, it's funny.
It's not true, but it's funny. And the point of
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all of this being, we are in a phase of
our politics where we're not going to back down right
because the other people are evil. We're not going to
step back from the brank. We're not going to say
I shouldn't have drafted this policy this way. Will you
work with me to make What you have to do
is say it's a it's a game of chicken, and
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the people who are driving the cars have different they
It's a game of chicken in which the people who
are driving the cars have different inputs and perverse incentives
compared to the rest of the country. And it's extremely dangerous.
Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
That's what. But that's the incentive structure right to to
act in this matter. If you back down, if you
try to be have a backbone, have some virtue to you,
you're going to get You're going to get run over,
pushed to the side, and you're not going to succeed.
The insteadive structure is set up for this coookie talk
for lack of a better term.
Speaker 5 (01:02:04):
Well, also, if people don't study actual history, and people
don't actually and look, I am a Christian, so for me,
I have the Bible, but there are many ancient texts
and philosophers that can school us on virtue. You can whatever.
But if we do not think about these things and
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we do not learn these things, and we do not
pay attention to these things. We are very prone to
a recency bias problem in which we say this time
is different, this time is different. And what do they
like to say online? You don't know what time it is?
The time is now to be hateful and cruel. The
stakes are simply too high. And I want to say
(01:02:45):
to people, the stakes are always high, right, because people's
lives are at stake, People's wellness is at stake, They're
liberty is at stake. The stakes are always high. And
of course when the stakes are high, as when we
should force ourselves to be the best, to be the
most disciplined, to be the most caring and compassionate to
other people, not say well, because the stakes are so high,
(01:03:06):
I have to act like garbage. And we got the
question for America. The question that America is confronted with
is if we want to keep the republic, how much
misery will be necessary before we are willing to act
like it? And that's where the story of the twenty
twenties is how much misery is it going to take
(01:03:28):
for America to abjure? And I hope young people will
and say now we can't keep doing this. Win or
take all. Shut up your face, or I'll punch it
or shoot you or kill you. When will we have
had enough? I don't know, but I Lord here our prayer.
I hope it is soon.
Speaker 7 (01:03:46):
Give me a quick hit on this because a lot
of the things I think we're talking about. You know,
George will a while back floated the idea that no
senator sitting or pass could run for president. It would
restore the Senate, I think, is what he was trying
to say to what the founders really want it. Good idea.
I mean, I know it's a long shot, we'll never
get it done, but good idea.
Speaker 5 (01:04:04):
Wait you say, what to prohibit senators from running for president?
Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
Yeah, if they've ever been a senator can't run for president.
Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
I mean, there are other things I would do to
the Senate. I would repeal the seventeenth Amendment and have
state legislatures choose senators rather than direct election. There's a
but remember the two things that have to happen. We
need primary election reform and we need to expand the
House of Representatives. We need to expand the House of Representatives.
After the twenty thirty CENTSUS it should be at least
fifty percent more. There's a lot of stuff that we
(01:04:32):
can do preventing senators from being president. I guess if
George will likes it, I'm very much likely I'm going
to be on my show this Sunday. I'm very much
likely to like it. But it would be pretty far
down my list of institutional reforms that I well.
Speaker 7 (01:04:46):
His idea was, they're all running for president. They don't
have any success. Most presidents are former governors. Maybe if
they're not running for president that actually do their job
as a senator. But to bring it up with him.
Speaker 5 (01:04:56):
Term limits, brother, two terms in the Senate should be enough.
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Chris, always appreciate it.
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What's Brown doing these days? Did he land? Was he
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Analysts?
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You ask too quick? He is working on a staff somewhere.
I know that's a terrible answer to j But no, no,
I mean you asked me too quick.
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I mean he's making some money.
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He didn't have to be in a hurry to spend
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Oh did you see speaking of Penn State. So Kurt Signetti,
who's got Westerny ties, obviously, and Indiana his name has
come up, as you know, a top target for Penn State.
He just got paid Indiana eight to eight year, ninety
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Speaker 23 (01:15:09):
On your previous segmentary with Chris steywalk his book Broken News,
Why the media rage machine got divided, the marriage, and
how to fight back. That's all he did for that
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Texter says Donald Trump told a press conference that he
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Donald Trump is so ignorant that he's a threat to
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Dave Tomorrow is no Kings at the Capitol in Charleston.
Everyone welcome, bring along your favorite illegal alien. Okay, we'll
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I'm going to let you decide if you want to
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Yeah, not really. Esteem just curious as Dave Wilson and
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We just like to pick at each other. It's a
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unrest in our cities is the arsonists complaining about fires.
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Dave This Texter.
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That's how stupid people are.
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Speaker 17 (01:22:20):
God speed.
Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
Space, Sace, appreciate the steam. Thank you. Eight hundred seven
to sixty five Talk eight hundred seven sixty five eight
two five five, Dale, You're on steam Release.
Speaker 21 (01:22:34):
Atj another guy, it's your pail, dal Lea. I know
a thing or two about alter egos, and after yesterday's
talk line, I want to meet this MJ.
Speaker 8 (01:22:45):
Tednis fella.
Speaker 21 (01:22:46):
Be looking for me at Bridge Day tomorrow. I'll be
jumping in my favorite wingsuit. The things I do for
the children from one swifty to another.
Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
Dale appreciate it eight hundred and seven sixty five, eight
hundred and seven to sixty five eight two five five
to two call in. You can text your steam three
oh four talk three oh four TJ or M or
what's the hel there?
Speaker 7 (01:23:11):
Ego MJ, TEDOSJ tetos well known in the corporate world.
Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
Let's get some text teams.
Speaker 7 (01:23:18):
Texter says, please get up to speed before merging into
traffic on an interstate. This one from the semi private
text line Dave. Why did TJ have to post a
pic on X with his feed up to promote Steam release?
Nobody wants to see his penny loafers as he wears
no socks. Is TJ afraid of socks? Is Obama coming
(01:23:41):
to the All Kings rally.
Speaker 4 (01:23:42):
At the Capitol?
Speaker 8 (01:23:45):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (01:23:48):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (01:23:50):
I'm glad there are plans to seal the old gas
wells after they come to the end of their useful life.
I think the driller should have to seal the gas
wells at the time they remove the equipment. I do
think an Alaska's style system to compensate the people for
the minerals removed is a great idea too. Says the
text three or four talk three bell four. I'm going
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to the No Kings rally. I'm a proud American. I'm
willing to pay a bit more for gas or even gasoline.
We need to take back our country from the oligarchs
who want to take it away from us.
Speaker 4 (01:24:21):
Text.
Speaker 7 (01:24:22):
Don't trust that guy to pack your parachute. In fact,
I believe the rule that you always pack your own
parachute so it doesn't open. You know who to blame.
I'm not going to read a potential threat against the
public official. Just not doing that. TJ and Dave good Friday,
Well Zelenski going to meet with Trump again today. That's
a dog and pony show. How many times as Trump
(01:24:44):
said he was going to end the war, how many
times has he threatened to sanctioned putin oh Man Nobel Prize.
Speaker 4 (01:24:51):
What a joke?
Speaker 7 (01:24:53):
Trump said he couldn't find any corners in the Oval office.
That is what the country is dealing with. Don't blame
the don't blame the Dems. If Biden had let ten
million illegals in the country, there would be no need
to get them out. Democrats act like illegals are choir boys.
Speaker 4 (01:25:10):
TJ.
Speaker 7 (01:25:11):
Says, I love markets, and I say hooray. We need
more clear eye realism about electricity and our power bills
and how it all works.
Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
Let's get back to the phones. Eight hundred and seven
sixty five Talk eight hundred seven six five eight two
five five Texters team to three or four talk three
oh four Bill in the Northern Outpost.
Speaker 29 (01:25:31):
SOPHIEA is very cordial. Dave just very cordial. And second Dave,
in the next few days, check your WVU WV Media Corp. Mailbox.
Third and the most important. Since the government shutdown, we've
talked about the Board of Education Paul Hertsley and the
realization of the school funding formula and what we're gonna do.
(01:25:55):
Then we talked about the co production and energy crisis.
And then we have town meeting in Moretown on Wednesday
night for the power line that's going to go from
Pennsylvania to Virginia with no indirect or direct benefit to
West Virginia. So effectively, over the last three weeks, you
bought real issues to the table on your program. And
(01:26:19):
then Hoppy comes in and says the vaccination issue is
in total chaos. I think you too, have done a
very nice job of bringing real issues to the table
and Hoppy can talk about chaos.
Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
Bill. Appreciate the steam. Eight hundred and seven six five talk.
Let's go to Ronald. Hey, Ronald, what's your steam?
Speaker 6 (01:26:42):
Hey?
Speaker 17 (01:26:43):
I hope you guys playing the bits in those Kings
rally A stream. It's gonna be pre refreshments there. It's
gonna be grape so that provided BLM Brothers and there's
gonna be some musical entertainment AOC and the Socialist Sisters
are coming in. They're really good. And from Germantown in Pennsylvania,
(01:27:09):
there's going to be a real good man little Jilly
Mango and the Antifa boys. And lastly, after all this
is done, there's there's going to be Greg Queen reading
and IRA for children.
Speaker 1 (01:27:24):
Thank you, Ronald, to have a great weekend. Appreciate the
phone call. Eight hundred and seven six five eight two
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Speaker 7 (01:29:50):
Democrats are so outraged their people are being indicted based
on alleged political motives. That's exactly what was behind the
Trump indictments. When they went after Trump, they opened Pandora's box.
Democrats win in power, will indict Republicans. Republicans when in power,
will indict Democrats. What Democrats started will never end. Texter
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says any links between Ace Freely and the Clintons. This
text says, I'm going to the Sofa Queen rally at
the Civic Center this Saturday. My steam is for the
full that thought it would be appropriate to decorate the
graveyard at Loudon Heights and Bridge Road in Charleston for Halloween.
The real headstones don't appreciate the fake ones. I live
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up on a mountain and unfortunately the coal company sunk
our well in the fifties. Now for sixty years, all
of us were. All folks are forced to haul water
from a spring at the bottom of the mountain or
buy it from Walmarts. Where is our compensation? Texter says,
you would think all Americans would want no Kings, but
(01:30:59):
apparently not. Anti means against fa means and stands for fascism.
So Trump's calling our WW two vets terrorists. Ronnie, thank
you for the wonderful advertising for our No King's rally.
We plan to have all that entertainment and then some
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It will be so much fun. Hey there, fellas, this
is a steam from Morgantown. My steam speeding on University
Avenue from the Van Voris Patterson intersection to Bowyer's Avenue
in either direction. Drivers need to slow it down, the
Texter says. Retired generals say we are heading towards dictatorship.
Speaker 4 (01:31:43):
So sad.
Speaker 7 (01:31:45):
He also says Putin puts a bounty on American soldiers.
Speaker 1 (01:31:51):
Dave.
Speaker 7 (01:31:52):
The Texter says, I asked you both to cite the
studies you've read on vaccine safety to help us be
more informed. Dave, you said that there are multiple studies
out there. You're doing a disservice to your listeners that way.
Please help us understand the safety of the studies. Text
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Text line three four Talk three four. Israel owns America
and our politicians. Texter says, Ace see you and hell
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brother anymore text teams on your line, TJ.
Speaker 4 (01:33:50):
Here we go.
Speaker 7 (01:33:51):
I've hed Goton policies are there because there's been little
news reporting. The press is so biased and they express
and express that bias in their reporting that we know
no longer trust them to give us honest facts. Texter says,
it doesn't matter anymore. Everybody knows the state sanctioned media
is fake. It's kind of late for you guys to
pretend that you haven't been co opted as well. Pete
(01:34:14):
hag Seth is an alcoholic or has alcohol use disorder
and needs to stop lying if he wants to do better.
Speaker 1 (01:34:21):
All right, that's going to do it for us. For today.
I'll be headed to I Got Mortgantown High School football tonight,
be on the Marshall broadcast tomorrow, and be back in
this chair on Monday morning. TJ have a great weekend,
you too, buddy. For Jake Link, Sophia Wasik and TJ.
Meadows Dave Wilson have a great weekend. We'll talk to
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That's just a taste. Good morning, TJ.
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Good morning ten o'clock. You know what that means. Speaker
Johnson is at the podium?
Speaker 6 (02:14):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Mad Mike? Mad Mike at the podium today?
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Mad Mike?
Speaker 7 (02:17):
He just said Democrats in Washington are playing games. That's
the lower third caption from him. I feel like he's
missing something though. He could take a lesson from Governor Morrissey.
You know those big blue signs Morrissey puts on the
podium when he has a boom. I mean, there you go.
Johnson needs to get him a big blue sign on
the front of the podium.
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Well, the print shops closed TJ the government's ship.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Surely they have like a fast signs or something in DC.
He can shell out for a few signs on his
own dime.
Speaker 7 (02:47):
But yeah, man, it continues sixteen days, ten hours, eight minutes,
and forty seconds at the mark.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
All right, we will check in in Washington coming up
just a couple of minutes from now. This time yesterday
we were telling about telling you about a first of
its kind public private partnership between the state and Diversified
Energy establishing the Mountain State Plugging Fund and innovative initiative
to plug and retire old oil and natural gas wells
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in West Virginia safely. This would represent a seventy million
dollar commitment from Diversified over the next twenty years. Yesterday,
Brad mcwheney mention, a WHO state wide correspondent, reached out
to the Surface Owners' Rights Organization here in West Virginia.
The statewide membership organization formed in two thousand and seven
for concerned landowners public to deal with oil and gas issues. Well,
(03:36):
they had a lot of questions, not many answers. Joining
us on the program from the West Virginia Surface Owners
Rights Organization is David McMahon, David, good morning.
Speaker 8 (03:46):
Good morning, and thank you for having me on.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Appreciate you stopping by. Well heard you on with David
Amanda on midday yesterday. It sounded like you had more answers,
or more questions than answers, Dave, Have you been able
to get any answers to those questions in the last
day or so?
Speaker 8 (04:02):
Well? Not really, kind of more have more questions, I know,
I mean we kind of red flag to us is
who would benefit most of getting these wells plugged? Surface owners?
But the NOY contacts us to check us, to tell
us what it's about and see if we're good with
it or have suggestions. I mean, you know, I mean
it's a huge problem these orphaned wells in the state.
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There are seventy some thousand wells in the DET database,
and we think there's more than that. Twelve thousand of
them should already have been plugged because they haven't produced
for a year. There are five or seven thousand that
have gone unplugged so long that the operator has gone
out of business. They call those orphan dwells. And so
the idea is to prevent orphaned wells from happening. What
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we really need to do is have the legislature path
something that says as soon as the well is drilled,
when it's producing the most, that's when the driller should
start putting money into a private account with interests to
pay itself to the plug the well later. And this
seems to have a little bit of that, but there's
still there's still a bunch of questions that we have
about it. You know, the devil is in the details.
Speaker 7 (05:06):
Who should manage that account compt Should it be the
state or the individual? Driller should have an account? In
your opinion, it.
Speaker 8 (05:13):
Should be in a bank somewhere. We've already done this
with contested COVID mephane royalties. You want it in a
bank so the legislature won't take it, and you want
it in a bank so that the the credit is
of the company can't get at it in a kind
of trust like that. So you know, like this ensure
we've never heard of. We're trying to find out about it.
(05:35):
Is it regulated by some state to make sure that
they don't take the money and run. You know that's
happened and the numbers just don't add up for us.
You know, they talked about seventy million sounds big could
turn into two hundred and sixty five million in twenty years. Ooh,
that's a twelve and a half percent interest rate return
(05:56):
on the money. I wish I knew where they were
investing their money to get.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
That far in fright.
Speaker 8 (06:01):
Part of it is part of it just a balance
sheet game where if they if they relay this obligation
off onto this insurance company, then their balance sheet looks
better to potential investors and lenders. That's a possibility. I mean,
the real question is as much as that money sounds
like it's not enough to deal with even Diversified its problem.
(06:25):
In twenty eighteen, Diversified reporter to the public that their
wells they've got would reach the end of their economic
lives in twenty forty eight and at that point, David
have according to another disclosure, they made like fifty thousand
wells across Appalachia. We know they've got twenty thousand wells
in West Virginia. If this is enough money to plug
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three thousand wells, there's you know, including there's two thousand
the diversitive I should already have plugged. So as I say,
lots and lots of questions.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
David McMahon joining US West Virginia Surface Owner's Rights Organization.
What is the risk to the surface owner if these
wells are left orphaned, unplugged, unretired.
Speaker 8 (07:08):
Well liquids can come up out of the well onto
the ground. Liquids on the ground like it rains on
your meadow and onto the cow pie, you can wash
down into your water table. The gas can come up
and into the water table. The gas being it can
interfere with future coal mining if the wells not plugged there.
And the biggest one for surface owners probably is that
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doesn't happen all the time, but it decreases your property value.
There's this well out there no longer producing, and you know,
somebody wants to buy your land here. I'm not so
sure they're gonna do it, or they're gonna want less money.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
So do you want to sit down with the state diversified?
Where do we go from here? How do you guys
get comfortable with this plan?
Speaker 8 (07:49):
Well, you know, it may it may in fact be
a small contributor, but you know, if you keep pouring
water in a bucket that has a hole in the bottom,
it's never going to fill up. We need to do
things to prevent orphan wells from happening in the first place.
Have companies start putting money away when they first start
producing so that they can, with interest over twenty thirty
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forty longer have enough money to pay themselves to plug
the wells later on.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Can we can we catch up? I mean, by your count,
twelve thousand that should be retired, as you know, seven
thousand n orth and we're talking somewhere in the neighborhood
of twenty thousand wells that need to be retired across
the state. Can we catch up? And there are more coming, David, Well.
Speaker 8 (08:34):
Maybe not, but we can certainly get the ones that
are the biggest problems and the ones that people care
about the most. And we should make every effort. And
again that we should plug the hole in the bottom
of the bucket, so at least new wells drilled, and
maybe when wells are transferred, people have to start putting
money away to plug them later. Because mean, traditionally in
West Virginia, big companies like EQUT, big rich companies that
(08:56):
will drill the wells and then and then producing. Yeah,
and well well production declined quickly. That's sixty percent off
maybe the first year, another sixty percent reduction now to
produce the small amounts for years and years, and at
that point EQT would sell them or other companies not
just EQUT would sell them off to small producers. I
those small producers would milk them for a while, and
(09:17):
then those guys that go out of business and diversified.
As diversified, the original sin is putting that on steroids.
When they bought hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of wells
from the big producers, and we know that they're not
going to have enough money eventually to plug them all.
Speaker 7 (09:33):
Yeah, but I mean, in fairness, they're kicking seventy million
dollars in and some of these wells, to your point,
we don't know who drilled them. They've been around forever.
I guess from a triage perspective, wouldn't it be better
to go after wells that we know about and these
ones that have been out there for a long time
that aren't producing that somebody well, you know, they dug
the well back in how many ever years ago. It's
(09:55):
best just to leave those alone, focus on the ones
that are really the problems, Like you say, and that's
seventy million dollars in that case, if it grows, would
go pretty.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Far, wouldn't it.
Speaker 8 (10:03):
Well, the world there's two different worlds. There's orphaned wells
and then there's the unplugged wells that still have a
responsible operator, and that's diversified. They've got, you know, two
thousand wells that should already be plugged and so this
is this is a process that they want to deal
with that and to be fair, yeah, this may be
a small dent in the bucket, and congrats for that,
(10:25):
but but it's a red flag to us when we
have these questions and they didn't talk to us ahead
of time.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
David McMahon, he is with the West Virginia Surface Owners
Rights Organization. David, appreciate the perspective this morning. Thank you
very much.
Speaker 8 (10:39):
Thank you for having me on Man.
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Three at four Talk three at four is the text
line eight hundred and seven to sixty five talk. The
phone number steamerly is a little bit over an hour
from now. President President Trump confirmed on Wednesday he's authorized
the CIA to conduct covert operations inside of Venezuela said
he was weighing carrying out land operations in the country. Also,
(12:33):
Democrats in the Senate are considering Man Tim Kaine is
leading that effort to force a vote to stop the
president from unilaterally declaring war on the South American nation.
We're war with Venezuela. Okay, let's go to Fox News
radios to Chart Helper. Maybe he can explain. Jared, good morning.
Speaker 11 (12:53):
Yeah, that vote did not succeed his part of Okay,
defense policy, but listen, it's we talk a lot about
kind of Congress and listen, I think they're gonna have
stand alone votes that they could certainly try this again,
and they may. Is this intensifies, especially if you start
to see strikes inside of Venezuela. Right now, these have
(13:14):
been votes that are alleged by the administration to be
drug trafficking vessels that are being taken out in international waters.
But it is clear that President Trump is threatening to
expand these operations against cartels in what the administration has
described as narco terrorist organizations. But listen, Congressional authority is
(13:40):
only as good as Congress using that authority. Right, So
it's true with tariffs, and it's true with war. Congress
has not authorized any of this, and there certainly have
been some complaints on both sides of the aisle, but
you've not seen, to your point, kind of Congress force
Boes on this to kind of get involved, at least
(14:02):
not yet.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
So if we go here, I mean, is this thing
over like two hours after it starts, Jared, I would
imagine Venezuela would be of little consequence militarily in terms
of director.
Speaker 11 (14:14):
I mean, I don't want to get ahead of where
we are here. I think it's going to depend on
what the nature of this is. But again, this also
could sort of be warnings that the president is putting
out there. The United States, not just with disadministration, but
in previous administrations as well, has done a lot to
(14:34):
increase relations in South America, in Latin America, improve relations
with Columbia, improved relations with Brazil, although that is kind
of still on the rocks, improve relations with Peru and
a lot of these other countries in South America. And
part of that is an isolation campaign targeting Venezuela. As
(14:58):
Venezuela continues to align with China, align with Russia, and
remember the Maduro regime, the Maduro government is not the
recognized government internationally, certainly not the United States. They believe
that Maduro lost the last election and has not left power.
So again, a lot of this is not new in
(15:21):
the sense that the United States has had animosity with Venezuela.
But President Trump has talked about Maduro and has talked
about Venezuela in a different way where he believes that
there has been some intentionality on the part of not
just drug cartels, but on the Venezuelan government itself to
(15:45):
flood the US with you know, undocumented immigrants, with migrants
and with drugs. So we'll see if this intradiction campaign expands.
But again, the President has been kind of cagey about it.
It is notable that he acknowledged that he had authorized
CIA operations in Venezuela. I mean, I think that most
(16:07):
people would understand that we would have CIA operations in
a lot of places around the world. You just generally
don't hear the President of the United States acknowledge them.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Talking to Fox News Radios, Jared Halpern, is this a
situation where I guess you could call it Trump's political
acumen kicks in. Yeah, we have this conversation about congressional authority.
Congressional power is Trump overstepping. But at the same time,
is there going to be a lot of public pushback
if you are taking out drug cartels? Doesn't seem like
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there would be.
Speaker 11 (16:40):
Well again, I think it depends on on kind of
the nature and what the public perceives. I mean, it
defends how you're doing it. Would there be public outcry
if we have boots on the ground in Venezuela. I
think that would be viewed differently than drones or aircraft
taking out drug boats. At the same time, you were
going to have civil rights groups and civil libertarians and
those kind of minded lawmakers and members of the public
(17:03):
who are going to express questions and concern about how
these operations are being taken out. But listen, every military
operation is kind of viewed through the lens I think,
by and large from the American public of what the
risk is and what the reward is, right, what's the mission,
and kind of what that looks like. I think it
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is very different to sort of view an operation like
we've seen with these five boats being blown out of
the water versus you know, a sustained conflict in a
foreign country.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
To any degree that we use any kind of military
force in that region that would fall to US Southern Command.
A combatant commander says he's stepping out. How does that
affect this story? What's the angle there?
Speaker 11 (17:50):
We'll see this broke yesterday. You're right, the commander is
stepping down. I think at the end of the year
he will be replaced. That replacement, I believe will have
to be Senate confirmed. Usually there are Senate hearings with
those types of positions, and so that might also be
an opportunity for Congress to ask questions about what's happening here.
(18:11):
You've already seen the Democrats that lead the Armed Services
Committee say that they want to have hearings about this
mission and this resignation and kind of.
Speaker 8 (18:21):
The path forward.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Fox News Radios Jared Halpin got a couple of minutes left.
Jared John Bolton turns himself in. He's been indicted for
misuse or mishandling of classified documents. Where ever heard that before?
Speaker 11 (18:33):
Yeah, this goes back several years. The Justice Department in
a eighteen count indictment accusing Bolton essentially of transmitting classified
information to relatives. It's believed to be his wife and daughter,
and of holding on to classified information well beyond his
(18:55):
time in public office. Remember he was the National Security
Advisor at one time. For sident Trump became a big
Trump critic soon thereafter, has been viewed by President Trump,
as he called him yesterday, a bad guy. So, you know,
we've heard from John Bolton, his attorneys, who say that
this is political, that the charges here have been investigated,
(19:19):
have been cleared, that the FBI was aware of some
of this stuff going back to like twenty twenty one,
and that they are looking forward here to the trial.
That initial hearing I think happened this morning, and we'll
see kind of how that moves forward. But it's definitely,
at least from Bolton's point of view, being seen in
the same light as some of these other high profile
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indictments we've seen of political foes of the president.
Speaker 7 (19:44):
Jared talk to us about the Chinese tariff situation. We
haven't had a chance to focus on that with the
other news that's been happening.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
What's the latest.
Speaker 11 (19:52):
Trump says that he's going to put new tariffs one
hundred percent on China starting November first. It's important to
remember that he has made these threats and has made
these reciprocal threats a lot over the last several months
as they continue to kind of work through these trade disputes.
The latest dispute is kind of twofold one. China has
stopped buying all American soybeans, is a result of earlier
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tariffs that is having a huge impact on the agriculture
industry in the United States. China then last week indicated
that they were going to put export controls essentially limit
exports of these rare earth minerals, these critical minerals that
are needed for batteries, for electronics, for missile defense systems,
for a whole host of products, both militarily and consumer base.
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President Trump has been furious about that, has said that
this is holding the world hostage, that this is a
hostile act. That is when he put forward this plan
to put one hundred percent tariff on Chinese products, an
additional one hundred percent tariff on Chinese products beginning November first,
but that is after the two leaders, Trump and She
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are expect to meet in about two weeks at a
summit in South Korea. Sometimes those conversations have been enough
to at least reduce the temperature and you know, kind
of pulled back these tariff threats. Gott Vessent, the Treasury Secretary,
is already having conversations with his Chinese counterpart. So we'll
see where this goes over the next couple of weeks,
but it could be a pretty important meeting here between
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President Trump and President.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
She Fox News Radio Jared Hauburn from the White House. Jared,
always appreciated. Have a great weekend, all right. Coming up,
doctors trying to regain trust, especially when it comes to vaccines.
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have any frost on the windshield this morning? Down in
the valley Christer.
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Bed frost fog.
Speaker 17 (25:27):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
I even turned the heater on the seat. I turned
that on this morning, partially because my back was a
little sore. You know, heat on the back feels good.
But yeah, it's cold enough to do it, I go,
I go to work early enough. It had not frosted yet.
It was frosting. It was in the midst of doing
that this morning, but it was chilly. Had to turn
the heater on in the vehicle. We almost we almost
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turned the furnace on last night.
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We haven't done that yet. We play this game with
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go before we turned the furnace on? And we felt
like we just couldn't do it.
Speaker 7 (26:03):
In October, it was sixty six in the house when
I woke up this morning, and I absolutely adore that.
I like, I would love to sleep at sixty Yeah,
oh yeah, sleep, you'll like it cold.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
One of the best night sleeps I've ever got. ToJ Well,
and we'll get to our gas tournament. Who's probably bored
with us already. It was actually during a power outage
in winter. I was home alone. Jenna was out of town,
the dogs were at the in law's house. I was
home alone. The power was out, and I went, you
know what, I'm gonna go to bed early. I'm going
to have to have a long drive into work because
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it was I think it was ice was the problem.
But it was kind of cold in the house. You
throw on a couple of extra blankets and a quilt,
slept like a rock that night. Luckily the power came
back all the next day because the next night was
going to be way too cold. All that ambient heat
was going to be gone at that point. Yeah, but yeah,
I mean that point where you got to kick it on.
But to your point, yeah, I enjoyed a little cold
when I sleep.
Speaker 8 (26:56):
All Right.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
We have been in the midst of the vaccines and
religion exemption discussion for the better part of a year now.
We've talked about the legal wranglings surrounding them. We've debated vaccines.
We've talked about the bills when they were introduced, the legislature,
the efficacy of vaccines, their effectiveness, all the above. We've
been through this and one of the things that I
have contended throughout this conversation is that one we have
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this mistrust of institutions in general, and that includes medical
institutions that she used to just trust them. We've lost
that and regaining that is going to not be is
not going to come about by anything we say on
this show, or copyrights or some study that gets published
in the New England Journal of Medicine. It's going to
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be on one on one interactions between patients and physicians.
And wouldn't you know what, It came across this article
in the Dispatch this week how a pediatrician earns trust
in a time of vaccine doubt. You have my attention.
Grayson log is the author of that article. He joins
us on Metro News talk Line on loan from the Dispatch. Grayson,
(28:02):
good morning, Waynette, I turned up the wrong pot. Grayson,
good morning, good morning.
Speaker 18 (28:09):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Appreciate you coming on. So what led you down this
rabbit hole?
Speaker 18 (28:13):
Yeah, it would just really kind of keep in my
ear to the ground. Friend of a friend has a
pediatrician brother who was talking about the prevalence of these
policies at pediatric offices across the country where they will
actually dismiss families who refuse some we're all vaccines from
their pediatric practice. They have a dismissal policy. And I
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don't have any kids yet, I've yet to be at
a pediatric officer. This is just a new thing to me.
I didn't really even realize this was a thing that
a private practice could have as a policy. And Doug
Moore into the story to find out that a large portion.
We don't have super great data, but as a twenty
nineteen survey, fifty percent of pediatric practices across the country
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have some version of this policy. And so that doesn't
mean that if you refuse one vaccine you'll necessarily be dismissed.
There's some gradations. A lot of these practices would let
a family like spread out vaccines beyond what's recommended in
the schedule, but still fifty percent having some type of policy,
and some of them are pretty If you refuse one
according to outside the timeline recommended the schedule, you will
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be dismissed. Really caught me by surprise.
Speaker 7 (29:20):
And in your reporting, I would assume it's become clear
that we're not talking about COVID here. We're talking about
traditional vaccines that have been dispensed to our children for
some time.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Correct.
Speaker 18 (29:32):
Yeah, that's right, and that to what you were just
saying a little bit ago. This part of this wave
of distrust that we've seen. We saw some of this
obviously before the pandemic, but it's really exploded since the pandemic.
People lost a lot of faith in public health institutions,
and a lot of this is just rolling all downhill
to when you go into see your pediatrician, and a
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lot of this is falling on the pediatrician to deal
with a chaotic information environment, people not sure what to
believe about vaccines anymore, some weird statements coming from HHS
like this is a strange environment to operate in. But
one of the good things about this kind of bad
situation is that pediatricians still remain basically the most widely
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trusted authority on vaccines if you go through like politicians
or public health professionals or agencies like the CDC. All
of that has gone downhill. But there was a survey
last week from the KFF and Washington Post and they
found that eighty five percent overall and this Republican Democrat
independent eighty five percent still trust their pediatricians on vaccine,
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which is a great a great place to be even
amidst widespread vaccine skepticism these days.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Talking with Grayson Logi's a rider for The Dispatch, has
an article how pediatricians eren trust at a time of
vaccine doubt. So you spoke to a couple of pediatricians
who aren't dismissing their patients, are discharging them. They are,
they're working with them. So how are they trying to
regain this trust and handle the issue?
Speaker 18 (31:01):
Yeah? Absolutely. And one of the pediatricians that I spoke to,
he actually found out that by some way, he was
put on this list on a like a vaccine skeptical website,
and people were starting to come to him by way
of this website. And at first he was kind of
nervous about it. Was he's a board certified pediatrician and
he believes in the efficacy in vaccine, wants people to
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get vaccinated. But then he thought about it for a
little bit and he's like, no, actually, like, these are
the type of people I want to be having conversations with.
I want to hear their fears, I want to hear
their concerns. I want them to be exposed to good medicine,
and so starting from that place of compassion empathy with
people taking them where they're at and while still being
clear about what you think is good science and what
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your kind of boundaries are as a doctor. And his
experience is that maybe these people don't get all vaccines,
but over time, the majority of people that he interacts
with that have come into this office being skeptical or
not wanting any vaccines, they will get some, at least
some or even most within the schedule over time because
they've built this relationship of trust over time, as opposed
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to kind of hitting a hard barrier just from the
beginning when you first meet your doctor and they're basically
you have to do this or you can't be a
part of this practice.
Speaker 7 (32:12):
I'm curious if you found anything that would detail the
inverse of that, And I'm thinking about the prevalence of
social media today. This has been a while back, but
there was a conversation that I got linked into or
tagged in.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
I forget.
Speaker 7 (32:27):
I don't think the individual was a pediatrician, was a
general practitioner, but there was a doctor sure appeared like
they were advocating that you don't want to take these vaccines.
Is that why we are where we are because fifteen
percent opting out there are some physicians for whatever reason,
that may go the other way on this, and I
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would think that's some level of a factor in all this.
Speaker 18 (32:53):
Yeah, it's certainly a factor. There is like such a
diversity of medical opinion, and that's why I think it's
so so important for people to have access to kind
of the best sources of medical information, even at the
at the pediatric level. So that just creates all the
more understanding that if you're a new parent, you don't
really know who to listen to. You've seen some doctor
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on social media saying something, and that might be right
about like one study or like a reading of one's study,
but you really, when you're dealing with these types of issues,
you have to kind of discriminate by what is the
most well supported evidence, Like what is the best evidence
that we have, both from the studies but just from
the experience of decades some of these vaccines have been
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in the system and how successful they are at preventing
some really bad childhood diseases. And I think that's why
it's important that doctors or doctor Andrew Miller's the one
that I spoke to or willing to have these conversations.
And a lot of people I think, are are starting
to come around to these dismissal policies, which were originally
well intentioned. If you go back, they start maybe like
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ten twelve years ago, really picking up space. And the
idea back then was a lot of people being under
vaccinated or not receiving some vaccines. It was more due
to complacency in a lot of instances where they're just like, oh,
it's like do I really need to get that measicle
shot that's like one shot today, maybe I won't get it,
And a lot of practices kind of went along with
it because the prevalence of it was lower. But now
as the prevalence of that has gone up, and as
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it's coming from a place of distrust or fear, a
dismissal policy that might have been a helpful nudge to
one pairent a decade ago to get that extra shot,
that's driving people away now, and it's driving them to
bad sources of medical information because they are are shut
out of a lot of these clinics.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
So we're talking to Grace and Love with the dispatch
are more clinics, more physicians kind of adopting this Okay,
we'll work with you policy.
Speaker 18 (34:42):
I hope. So again, this is all anecdotal. So the
last like national study we have on this was twenty nineteen,
which is before the pandemic. It's a while ago. But
you see some examples, Like there's one example I referenced
in the article about a health department in Michigan which
was originally on the pro dismissal side of this, and
they were encouraging local pediatric offices to adopt these policies
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until they realize that, oh wait, like we don't actually
know once a family's dismissed, where are they going to
get medical care? Where are they going to get information
about vaccines? And they've done a one eighty on the
issue and want to take this approach that folks like
doctor Miller, who I spoke to, our taking, which is
we need to meet people where they are, get them
access to good medical information, and even if they don't
do what we would prescribe, we need to stay in
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relationship and stay engaging these folks, even for issues outside
of vaccines, like if you want to most people to
have access to the best medical information for their kids,
vaccines are not and I think that's hopefully that's a
reckoning that we can see. We can see more of
happening across the country.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Rais doctor Miller had success? Do we know? Is he
changing minds?
Speaker 18 (35:48):
He says, yeah, yes, he definitely is. And again, it's
not if you take the framework that if you refuse
one vaccine in the schedule that's a failure, then he's
probably not having the most success. But if you take
someone who's convinced that they want to get no vaccines
for their kids and they start to take twenty percent
of the schedule or half of the schedule, like that's successful.
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And I would argue that's successful. You're reducing the risk
of that kid. You're improving like public health for that community.
And I think he has had success on that front
for most of these new patients that are coming to
him with some vaccine questions and skepticisms.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Grayson log The article is how a pediatrician earns trust
in a time of vaccine doubt. It's at the Dispatch
dot com. It's a good read. Grayson, appreciate it. Good work,
thank you, Yeah, thank you very much. Absolutely, we appreciate it.
Coming up We'll change gears w on the road at
UCF this weekend. Brad Howell joins US next.
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More here before talk three or four is the text
line eight hundred and seven sixty five eight two five five.
That is the phone number going to get Brad Howe
on the phone momentarily. In fact, we may have him
on the line. Didn't put up the call screener this
morning for some reason, TJ.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Brad's a big get man. I mean, you know, we
got to work around him.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Well, you know, I'm happy to do that. He's at
basketball practice, he's got these podcasts to do, he's got
to manage Hopey Kerchieval. I mean, it's a tough gig, guys,
It's tough gig. Brad Hall joins this much a news
talk line.
Speaker 20 (38:36):
Morning Brad, Good morning fellas. You know we're in that
we're in that sweet spot of sports.
Speaker 8 (38:41):
Now.
Speaker 20 (38:41):
Football's rolling, we still got half a season left. Basketball
is underway. Secret scrimmage that isn't secret anymore coming up
tomorrow for the Mountaineers, So we're we're off and rolling.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Boy, you know what I thought of, Brad when I
heard about the secret scrimmage. The first thing that jumped
to my mind was the legendary closed scrimmage between the
dream Yeah, when those guys scream at each other. Yeah, yeah,
I doubt it's quite to that level, but you know that's.
Speaker 5 (39:06):
What jumped to my mind.
Speaker 20 (39:07):
Yeah, that took like ten years for us to get
footage out of that. These so called secret scrimmages, the
box scorers somehow find their way out about thirty seconds
after the game constantly. Now we're to the point I
didn't even realize this. Guys, not to get sidetrackedor I know,
you want to talk about football, but Ross even brought
it up this week in his press conference, mentioned that
they were playing Maryland and talked about it. So I guess,
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I guess, as we often say, no rules in college
sports anymore. Now, thank god, we can talk about these
secrets scrim I.
Speaker 7 (39:33):
Mean, why do I talk about Well, to your point,
I take a lot of comfort in the fact nobody
can keep a secret. That's how I know we don't
have aliens in a vault at Roswell.
Speaker 20 (39:43):
You know what does happen though in the in the
closed practices. You know, coaches are about the most paranoid
group on earth, So everybody's worried that the other side
is going to leak out their side of the story
of how the scrimmage went right, So nobody wants to
be the one that says that, no, no, no, that's not
that's not what we actually won the scrimmage. So you
get a lot of that in these closed scrimmages. And
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I wonder how long this will go on, guys, because
there's a lot of schools now that are using their
two scrimmage opportunities to do them both live like open
to the public. West Virginia this season is doing it
one in one the closed against Maryland coming up and
then Wheeling will be the public exhibition coming up next Sunday.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Brad, I'm sorry I have to say this.
Speaker 7 (40:23):
It reminds me of when we decided not to keep
the scoring t ball and all the parents are over
there keeping the scory.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
Anyway, that's what it reminds me.
Speaker 8 (40:30):
That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
That's a good point, all right, Brad, handicap this one
tomorrow Mountaineers in Orlando to take on Central Florida.
Speaker 20 (40:38):
Yeah, both teams are kind of mirror images of each other,
So it's start with the coaches. Scott Frost has been
at UCF before left and then has come back rich
same thing. Both had high levels of success when they
were there the first time. Both in total rebuild modes.
The injury situation has been very similar. They're bouncing between
quarterbacks because of injuries they've had. On the UCF side,
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we know that's been West Virginia's case as well at
the quarterback position. A couple of things I'm watching here,
first and foremost defensively for WBU. Can they now go
against an offensive line that probably isn't at the same
level that its last three opponents have been. When I
talk about Kansas and Utah and BYU, we've seen West
Virginia's pressure completely disappear in those games. My hope for
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the Mountaineers is tomorrow you're able to get a little
more pressure and that shows up much more like it
did against Pitt where that really helped you.
Speaker 17 (41:29):
Win the game.
Speaker 20 (41:29):
On the offensive side, UCS defense has been very good,
especially if you just look at their numbers statistically, they're
having a great season.
Speaker 21 (41:38):
Now.
Speaker 20 (41:38):
The one little caveat there is if you dive a
little bit deeper, their numbers against the run haven't been great.
So that's a good matchup on paper for a West
Virginia team that wants to run it first and foremost.
Speaker 8 (41:49):
So those are really the first.
Speaker 20 (41:50):
Two things I'm looking at. Can West Virginia coming off
of by extra week to prepare why UCF had to play,
take advantage of the situation, run the football and a
little pressure defensively if.
Speaker 7 (42:02):
You're running his staff? How do you get your team
mentally prepared for this? Because I think we would all
agree no one cares about this game outside u CFWVU,
But you need this. This is a big win that
you need in order to propel yourself forward. How do
you get the guys honed in to the right frame
of mind where they're concentrated their focus, but they're not
overly burdened by the mental aspect of what's going on here.
Speaker 20 (42:23):
Yeah, it's a good point, TJ. And I think coaches
and players often say this. I think there's a couple
of scenarios, and I think one of the truisms that
comes out from what teams say is it's sometimes easier
for them to focus because they're just they're so consumed
with what's next, what do we do on Friday? What
happens on Saturday? Next play? And they're just playing the game.
They're not looking big picture at all. The ramifications, So
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I think that helps. I think number two, when you
have a coach like Ritz that's as intense and demanding
as he is and is in year one, you're still
working your way up the mountaintop, and I think that
generally brings a bigger level of buy in or you
have to be concerned less when the mental letdowns from
guys that are looking for roster spots for next season
versus coaches that may be on their way out the
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door where teams have checked out. So until I see differently,
I'm going to assume this Mountaineer team will be ready
to go in these games and you'll get their best effort.
Now the question will just become is their best effort
good enough to get these wins?
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Brad forget what? Of course you want to see them
Mountaineers win, But what else do you want to see?
What are you watching for as this year one or
year zero? Cop he's calling it, you're zero for Rich Rodriguez.
Your zero continues coming off this bye week.
Speaker 20 (43:32):
Yeah, it's a great question, because I think that's where
you are when you have a team that's struggling like
it is in West Virginia. So I've said this guys.
I think it's a couple of things for me, and
this is one of those great things us in the
media and fans can talk in these terms. You will
never hear Rich or the coaches say this because they're
simply trying to win the game what helps them win
on Saturday. But I think from my perspective, what I'm
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watching over these next six games is how many guys
do you have on this roster that you want back
and that can contribute next year to moving this program forward?
Because I think that's going to be a critical question
this offseason is what does the rebuild next year look like.
Are you back to having to get eighty guys again
and we know how hard that is to turn things
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or can you get that number closer to sixty which
gives you some continuity. And the two positions I'm looking
at first and foremost one along the offensive line. You've
got to find out what you've got on that offensive line,
how many of those guys can be staples of this
program next year versus how many are you going to
have to go out and get. And then I think
the next obvious position there is quarterback. You're going to
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see a heavy dose of the two young guys Khalil
Wilkins and Scotti Fox or maybe in reverse order, Scotty
Fox and Khalil Wilkins. The rest of the way here,
and what do you have in each of those guys?
Are those guys that can be somebody you build around
moving forward that just need the rep so offensive line
and quarterback in particular, but really overall on this roster,
how many guys are willing to put forth the effort
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and show the talent needed to be back in this
group next year?
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Bring up us around full circle back to scrimmages. Did
you see Dion Sanders out in Colorado? How to scrimmage
for the guys that are probably going to enter the
portal so they could have some film to send out
to other schools.
Speaker 20 (45:11):
Well, we're in a different day and era for that,
aren't we. You never see that before. It's not actually
not a bad idea from a recruiting standpoint.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Yeah, okay, Coach Prime, he's doing something. I don't know
if it's the right thing or the wrong thing, but
he's doing something all right. You, of course can get
up to date ready to go for the game of
the Three Guys. Podcast over wv Metro News dot com. Brad,
Tony and Hoppy. We'll recap it all on Sunday. Brad,
appreciate it.
Speaker 20 (45:34):
Thank you all right, Thanks Ells, appreciate you having me.
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Speaker 7 (48:49):
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Cool.
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I would probably do that. I love that stuff. I
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They call me one day and say you're done, it'll
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as much fun, well possibly. Chris Tye Wall's politics editor
for The Hill and News Nation, host of The Hill
Sundale News Nation, and a senior fellow at the American
Enterprise and Too. He's also a best selling author and
proud West Virginian. Now you should be able to hear me, Chris, Hello,
(49:26):
good morning.
Speaker 5 (49:27):
So it's okay you guys play you guys, cut it tight.
You guys are technically daredevil's and I'm here for it.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
Well, I saw you pop on to the zoom and
I neglected to hit a button that would let you
hear the whole, you know, big intro there, which was
very good today I must say.
Speaker 5 (49:45):
Well, I'm I'm sure it was excellent. I'm sure it was.
Many people are saying it was the best introduction ever
to an eleven am hour broadcast radio. So many people.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
TJ said, if he gets canny, he's gonna be a
financial advisor. I'll probably end up at Walmart. Did do
you ever get any thought to what you would have
done had the newspaper, you know, being an inkstained wretch
not worked out well?
Speaker 5 (50:07):
I mean I've closed a couple newspapers I got out
of the Charleston Daily Mail right before they torpedoed it
right under the waterline. The news industry is Many people
today say that this period of contraction in the news industry,
(50:28):
the period of contraction in the news industry goes back
to the mid nineteen nineties. So it is. It is true.
But my whole career has been in a contracting news industry,
and the reason to do news is vocational, not career oriented.
(50:50):
You do this in the same way that people become teachers,
or people become firefighters or police officers or whatever, which
is to say, it's something you care about and it's
something that's important to you. The late great Bob Kelly,
the guy who I think is to blame for me
(51:12):
working in this business in a lot of ways. I started.
He was the one who gave me my first job
in the Wheeling intelligence or sports department, and I ended
up working for him in Charleston at the Daily Mail,
and I followed in his footsteps as the political editor
at the Daily Mail. Just a really important person in
(51:33):
my life. And Bob b Kay would when I would
complain about low pay or long hours or whatever, he
would say, you know, you could get an insurance agent.
You ever thought about selling insurance? Did I got? I
know a guy out in cross Lanes got a state
farm agencies looking to pass maybe And how dare you?
(51:55):
How could you say that? Not that there's anything wrong
with selling insurance, but I'm a newsman, and uh he
would do that to tease me and to remind me
that this is vocational uh, not that no one chooses
this business because it is a growth industry with lots
of job security.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
I'll record, I'll echo those sentiments. So, since we're talking
about media and you literally wrote the book on what's
broken with the American media, Chris Stirewell, this week we
saw all but one, I guess major news organizations say thanks,
but no, thanks for not going to sign the new
press guidelines for the Pentagon turning the badges. They walk out,
(52:38):
which major news which made?
Speaker 5 (52:39):
Which major news organization signed?
Speaker 1 (52:41):
Okay, I guess I just put America News one or whatever.
Speaker 4 (52:45):
That's that's a bit of a stretch.
Speaker 1 (52:51):
Okay, it's a stretch. It's a long strech major all right,
So nobody signed it. But how does this thing actually end?
Is this how it ends?
Speaker 5 (52:59):
Well, here's here's how it will end. It will end
because by poking so owning the Libs is it feels
so good, right if you're in a small university. Let's
take Let's take the ways in which the story of
the thirty something year old Republicans who were very fond
(53:22):
of Holocaust jokes and rape humor whose group chat was released.
Here are two distinct ways that that was handled. One
was JD. Vance said I'm not going to clutch at
my pearls over this with the stakes are too high,
and then win some earl Serius who's running for governor
(53:43):
in Virginia, was like, yeah, they should all resign their jobs.
They should all be out, and by the way, so
should Jay Jones, the Democratic candidate for lieutenant governor, who
sent equally wretched kind of texts, but his were of
intended to inflict emotional harm on one of his former colleagues.
So those are the two ways to go. They have
(54:06):
different needs.
Speaker 6 (54:07):
JD.
Speaker 5 (54:07):
Vance is running for president and the first thing he
has to do is convince the Republican primary electorate that
he is in I don't think he is a psycho,
but he's got to convince him that he's a psycho. Right,
He's got to say no one's getting to my right,
nobody's meaner than me, nobody hates Democrats more than I do.
Because that's the danger for him, is that Tucker Carlson
(54:28):
or somebody will slip into his right. Megan Kelly's talking
about running for president, so the danger of the advance
faces is that somebody gets to his right wins more.
El Series is trying to get elected in Virginia, a
state that is Democratic leanning, and she needs a lot
of independent voters, so she had a different audience. Long
way of saying, Pete Hegseeth believes that if he can
(54:50):
convince the forty thirty five percent of Americans who are
like Maga, dig It love it, that he is just
pommeling the news media, then that will be good. The problem,
of course, is is that when you do this to
people who have spent thirty years and who are really
well sourced in this world, when you do this, does
(55:14):
it make them say, well, you got us, you got
the better of us. I guess will go away. Now,
of course, they will quadruple their efforts. They will devote
their lives to finding out stuff. And I will further
say that of all of the places where the relationship
between the subjects and the press. There's a lot of
(55:38):
problems with the ways in which and this happens even
on the state level, in which reporters who covered beats
are treated like penned ducks that they come out and
feed them handfuls of grain periodically and say, okay, now
go quack over there. We'll let you know when it's
feeding time again. There is a problem with that, But
the problem is for news consumers and for the cunt.
(56:00):
It works really well for people in power to have
the ducks in a pen. And this so now the
ducks are out of the pen. And I tend to
doubt that this will redound to Pete Hegsett's benefit in
the long term.
Speaker 7 (56:16):
But certainly he knows that. I mean, I don't think
you have to be, you know, a rocket surgeon, as
we used to say, to understand what you're talking about here.
So does he go back to this narrative that, look,
even if it bites me later, a political win today
is worth more than any trouble all face over heat.
Speaker 5 (56:35):
John, We don't don't don't attribute to strategy what can
be explained by incompetence. I think in a lot of cases.
What happens in politics is people people's mouths write checks
that their posteriors cannot cash. They start stuff, and then
they don't feel like they can back down. And so
(56:56):
the in the JD Vance construction, you never backed down,
You never clutch your pearls, you never say I'm sorry,
you never say uh, that's not actually what we meant
for this policy to do. And we're going to work
with you and talk to you to figure out a
way that we can both get what we want out
of this. That's incredible, said by the way, well, yeah,
but but here's the thing. We don't like social media
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because social media is too good of a reflection of
human nature.
Speaker 23 (57:24):
Right.
Speaker 5 (57:24):
It's the accuracy of social media that we don't like,
because it holds a mirror up to our society and
we look at it and we go, gross, who's that?
And it's like it's it's sort of like me when
I see myself here, I'm like, who is that fat
old man? I don't know who that guy is. But
one of the consequences of social media, of course, is
that things once said are much harder to unsay, right,
(57:50):
So people take positions they adopt opinions, they post them online.
They're like, well, I don't care what anybody says, this
is how I feel about X and so, and then
what have Later, when you want to do what people
always do and should do, which is reevaluate through positions,
what do you get? You get your old tweet screen
capped with this you question mark yeah this you bro
(58:15):
this you. And the disincentive is to hold on to
bad opinions longer or not to acknowledge change because you're
afraid of being called a hypocrite. But as you guys know,
hipocrisy is not Virtue is better than actual virtue is
better than hypocrisy, but hypocrisy is way better than unvirtuous consistency.
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And we have a problem where so on these drug
boats or maybe not sometimes drug boats, and now we
have some injured people that the navy. Did the Navy
rescue the people or not rescue the people. So the
Trump administration has made an affirmative declaration that it has
declared war on transnational drug gangs and therefore can kill
(59:02):
people in summary execution, can order the Navy to kill
people on the high seas. That's a pretty big botsa
ball to have hanging out there, and then you follow
it up with oh, yeah, and the CIA covert? Is
it covert? I guess not. The CIA is ready to
strike ground targets in Venezuela.
Speaker 4 (59:21):
It was on a low third two minutes ago. So yeah,
it's covert.
Speaker 5 (59:25):
Yeah. So now we don't have a Congress to speak of. Uh,
And these people will not stand up. They would much
rather much rather fight the other party than fight another branch.
And so consequently we just don't have a Congress to
speak of right now. And it's shameful, it's pitiful, it's
bad for the country. But the administration, having taken the
(59:48):
affirmative statement and saying it very publicly, I don't care
who dies. Boohoo, I don't care, is now in a
position where can they say, well, actually, we didn't mean
to kill that one guy. It sounds like that guy
was actually just hitching a run. No, you can't say that.
You can't clutch your pearls. You've got to say anyone
(01:00:08):
who is concerned about this does not love America and
the the h did you see the posts from Graham Plattner,
who is the he is the main lobsterman who is
running for Senate up there against Susan Collinson, and it
was there was some some LULUs, there were some doozies
(01:00:28):
in there about like you gotta have semiautos, like any
populist revolts got to have some semiatos, bro and like
I'm I'm basically a communist now. And he said a
bunch of stuff, and it was like twenty twenty one,
and he deleted all the posts, and CNN caught him
and they said, what about it. He did have a
very funny line. He said a bunch of awful things
about Ted Nugent, he said. He said, I regret it all.
I regret all the things I said, and it was
(01:00:50):
I was being hot tempered online and I'm very sorry
about that, he said, but not about the Ted Nugent one.
And I got I gotta give him, I gotta give
him a credit on that. That's like when Donald Trump said,
when he was confronted with many of the things he
had said about women, he said, only Rosie O'Donnell, it's funny.
It's not true, but it's funny. And the point of
(01:01:11):
all of this being, we are in a phase of
our politics where we're not going to back down right
because the other people are evil. We're not going to
step back from the brank. We're not going to say
I shouldn't have drafted this policy this way. Will you
work with me to make What you have to do
is say it's a it's a game of chicken, and
(01:01:34):
the people who are driving the cars have different they
It's a game of chicken in which the people who
are driving the cars have different inputs and perverse incentives
compared to the rest of the country. And it's extremely dangerous.
Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
That's what. But that's the incentive structure right to to
act in this matter. If you back down, if you
try to be have a backbone, have some virtue to you,
you're going to get You're going to get run over,
pushed to the side, and you're not going to succeed.
The insteadive structure is set up for this coookie talk
for lack of a better term.
Speaker 5 (01:02:04):
Well, also, if people don't study actual history, and people
don't actually and look, I am a Christian, so for me,
I have the Bible, but there are many ancient texts
and philosophers that can school us on virtue. You can whatever.
But if we do not think about these things and
(01:02:25):
we do not learn these things, and we do not
pay attention to these things. We are very prone to
a recency bias problem in which we say this time
is different, this time is different. And what do they
like to say online? You don't know what time it is?
The time is now to be hateful and cruel. The
stakes are simply too high. And I want to say
(01:02:45):
to people, the stakes are always high, right, because people's
lives are at stake, People's wellness is at stake, They're
liberty is at stake. The stakes are always high. And
of course when the stakes are high, as when we
should force ourselves to be the best, to be the
most disciplined, to be the most caring and compassionate to
other people, not say well, because the stakes are so high,
(01:03:06):
I have to act like garbage. And we got the
question for America. The question that America is confronted with
is if we want to keep the republic, how much
misery will be necessary before we are willing to act
like it? And that's where the story of the twenty
twenties is how much misery is it going to take
(01:03:28):
for America to abjure? And I hope young people will
and say now we can't keep doing this. Win or
take all. Shut up your face, or I'll punch it
or shoot you or kill you. When will we have
had enough? I don't know, but I Lord here our prayer.
I hope it is soon.
Speaker 7 (01:03:46):
Give me a quick hit on this because a lot
of the things I think we're talking about. You know,
George will a while back floated the idea that no
senator sitting or pass could run for president. It would
restore the Senate, I think, is what he was trying
to say to what the founders really want it. Good idea.
I mean, I know it's a long shot, we'll never
get it done, but good idea.
Speaker 5 (01:04:04):
Wait you say, what to prohibit senators from running for president?
Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
Yeah, if they've ever been a senator can't run for president.
Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
I mean, there are other things I would do to
the Senate. I would repeal the seventeenth Amendment and have
state legislatures choose senators rather than direct election. There's a
but remember the two things that have to happen. We
need primary election reform and we need to expand the
House of Representatives. We need to expand the House of Representatives.
After the twenty thirty CENTSUS it should be at least
fifty percent more. There's a lot of stuff that we
(01:04:32):
can do preventing senators from being president. I guess if
George will likes it, I'm very much likely I'm going
to be on my show this Sunday. I'm very much
likely to like it. But it would be pretty far
down my list of institutional reforms that I well.
Speaker 7 (01:04:46):
His idea was, they're all running for president. They don't
have any success. Most presidents are former governors. Maybe if
they're not running for president that actually do their job
as a senator. But to bring it up with him.
Speaker 5 (01:04:56):
Term limits, brother, two terms in the Senate should be enough.
Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
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Speaker 5 (01:05:12):
Chris, I don't know what you're gonna say, but I
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Chris, always appreciate it.
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Bout it.
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Bye, bye, guys, Bye.
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Speaker 4 (01:07:47):
What's Brown doing these days? Did he land? Was he
a Texas? Isn't an assistant or something?
Speaker 14 (01:07:52):
Analysts?
Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
You ask too quick? He is working on a staff somewhere.
I know that's a terrible answer to j But no, no,
I mean you asked me too quick.
Speaker 4 (01:08:00):
I mean he's making some money.
Speaker 7 (01:08:02):
He didn't have to be in a hurry to spend
time from Penn State, right, I mean he's doing okay?
Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Oh did you see speaking of Penn State. So Kurt Signetti,
who's got Westerny ties, obviously, and Indiana his name has
come up, as you know, a top target for Penn State.
He just got paid Indiana eight to eight year, ninety
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Not too shabby. If you can get that kind of work,
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Speaker 4 (01:08:31):
If they don't do it, they'll lose him.
Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
Problem right, Yeah, I mean yeah, yeah, yeah, they got
They got a lot of today. Not again, not bad
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Ramsey retires next summer. New US Attorney for Southern West
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Those two things probably go hand in hand. You may
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can be a good steam, it can be a bad steam.
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Eight hundred seven to sixty five Talk eight hundred seven
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your steam to three oh four Talk three oh four. Well,
say what, let's start with some text teams, TJ are
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Sure thing?
Speaker 7 (01:14:41):
All right, let's steal text, says diversified is not going
to fix the orphaned well problem period three oh four
Talk three oh four. Man, I'm having computer issues now, Dave,
you need to pick it up. Yeah, sorry, I'm locked.
Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
Tell you what. Let's go to Robert in Kanawha County.
He wants to release some steam.
Speaker 21 (01:15:05):
Hey Robert, Dave, good morning.
Speaker 23 (01:15:09):
On your previous segmentary with Chris steywalk his book Broken News,
Why the media rage machine got divided, the marriage, and
how to fight back. That's all he did for that
little segment was rage about Trump. Vance had Seth. I
think he was the one clutching the pearls. Also, and
(01:15:29):
if you're going to the No King's rally tomorrow, just
realize that your gas is cheaper. The last time it
was cheaper was when the king was in office the
first time. And also if you go to the No
King's rally and you march for thirty consecutive minutes and
close your exercise red on your Apple Watch, it becomes
(01:15:54):
a Mahall rally.
Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
Have a good weekend, Robert, you have a great weekend.
You can release it's your steam, just like Robert at
eight hundred seven sixty five Talk eight hundred seven sixty
five eight two five five or texture steam to three
or four Talk three four. Heydavian TJ The Daily Show
said they would sign the Pentagon documents. I better just
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say one thing about Dems to keep up the illustration
of not being biased. All Trump supporters are crazy. Just
the right bought this guy's book. Where do I get
my money back? Asks the Texter. Uh just tuned in.
Not sure who is speaking, but my IQ dropped ten
points in three minutes. Use a lot of words to
say nothing. Totally useless. According to Reuter's ICE and CBP
(01:16:41):
are getting paid during the shutdown. Guess they're more important
to the economy than air traffic controllers got to catch
all the brownskin people to make job availability. I guess
I believe most citizens would choose individual liberties over social equality.
God Save the Republic. Has anyone taken the time to
sit Dallas Secretary Hegseth and ask him for his rationale?
(01:17:03):
You do realize that in a recent poll of legacy
media that eighty nine percent of them voted Democrat.
Speaker 8 (01:17:08):
Right?
Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
Do you think that might have an impact upon their
reporting and upon the trust that a Republican administration might
have about the media? Text Team three or four Talk
three oh four. Mister Stiwalt, would rather have a nuke
dropped on.
Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
Yeah, okay, would rather have a drew a nuke dropped
on Jerusalem than a drug boat taken out, says the Texter.
Texter Steam to three oh four Talk three oh four.
You can call eight hundred seven sixty five talk eight
hundred seven sixty five eight two five five or eight
hundred seven to sixty five t a l K. All right,
did you get your text? Steamer re steamed.
Speaker 7 (01:17:46):
I rebooted, Yeah, all right, good, take it away, all right,
Texter says Donald Trump told a press conference that he
was authorizing covert operations in Venezuela. Covert is defined as secret.
Donald Trump is so ignorant that he's a threat to
the world. His supporters are worse because they actually know
that he is mentally diminished, and they support him anyway.
(01:18:12):
Texter just wanted to let's know, Neil Brown is that
Texas as an analyst making twenty five thousand dollars a year.
Dave Tomorrow is no Kings at the Capitol in Charleston.
Everyone welcome, bring along your favorite illegal alien. Okay, we'll
leave it at that. That's a personal one for you.
I'm going to let you decide if you want to
(01:18:32):
read that or not.
Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
Yeah, not really. Esteem just curious as Dave Wilson and
Dave Allen not get along. The tone of voice really
seems to change when they talk to each other. Have
a great weekend. I know we're not supposed to respond,
but let me just clear that up. Yes, Dave and
I get along. We've known each other quite a while.
We just like to pick at each other. It's a
guy thing. Editor's note noted, there you.
Speaker 7 (01:18:54):
Go texter says, hey, TJ, did Senator Helton invite you
to bridge day in his stone grounds that he'd be
happy to pack your parachute for you. Cities are neither
Democrats or Republican, They are American cities. Trump complaining about
unrest in our cities is the arsonists complaining about fires.
Speaker 4 (01:19:15):
Dave This Texter.
Speaker 7 (01:19:16):
Says gas is cheaper because big oil and gas companies
intentionally raised them to blame Biden and put Trump back.
Speaker 4 (01:19:23):
That's how stupid people are.
Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
Eight hundred and seven to sixty five Talk. That's the
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Steamerly srolls on eight hundred seven sixty five Talk eight
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Speaker 28 (01:21:39):
Paul, Hey, guys, hey listen. In April nineteen seventy five,
I went down to the Huntington Memorial field House to
see a band called Finn Lizzie and they had this
slowly opening act I nor anybody else I'd hardly heard of.
And they came out with their black leather, silver platform boots,
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white makeup, and what I saw over the Latin next
thirty five minutes change the standard for what I considered
a great concert to be, and their lead guitarist change
the standard for what I thought the outer limits of
a guitar could be. So today I just want to say.
Speaker 17 (01:22:20):
God speed.
Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
Space, Sace, appreciate the steam. Thank you. Eight hundred seven
to sixty five Talk eight hundred seven sixty five eight
two five five, Dale, You're on steam Release.
Speaker 21 (01:22:34):
Atj another guy, it's your pail, dal Lea. I know
a thing or two about alter egos, and after yesterday's
talk line, I want to meet this MJ.
Speaker 8 (01:22:45):
Tednis fella.
Speaker 21 (01:22:46):
Be looking for me at Bridge Day tomorrow. I'll be
jumping in my favorite wingsuit. The things I do for
the children from one swifty to another.
Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
Dale appreciate it eight hundred and seven sixty five, eight
hundred and seven to sixty five eight two five five
to two call in. You can text your steam three
oh four talk three oh four TJ or M or
what's the hel there?
Speaker 7 (01:23:11):
Ego MJ, TEDOSJ tetos well known in the corporate world.
Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
Let's get some text teams.
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Texter says, please get up to speed before merging into
traffic on an interstate. This one from the semi private
text line Dave. Why did TJ have to post a
pic on X with his feed up to promote Steam release?
Nobody wants to see his penny loafers as he wears
no socks. Is TJ afraid of socks? Is Obama coming
(01:23:41):
to the All Kings rally.
Speaker 4 (01:23:42):
At the Capitol?
Speaker 8 (01:23:45):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (01:23:48):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (01:23:50):
I'm glad there are plans to seal the old gas
wells after they come to the end of their useful life.
I think the driller should have to seal the gas
wells at the time they remove the equipment. I do
think an Alaska's style system to compensate the people for
the minerals removed is a great idea too. Says the
text three or four talk three bell four. I'm going
(01:24:10):
to the No Kings rally. I'm a proud American. I'm
willing to pay a bit more for gas or even gasoline.
We need to take back our country from the oligarchs
who want to take it away from us.
Speaker 4 (01:24:21):
Text.
Speaker 7 (01:24:22):
Don't trust that guy to pack your parachute. In fact,
I believe the rule that you always pack your own
parachute so it doesn't open. You know who to blame.
I'm not going to read a potential threat against the
public official. Just not doing that. TJ and Dave good Friday,
Well Zelenski going to meet with Trump again today. That's
a dog and pony show. How many times as Trump
(01:24:44):
said he was going to end the war, how many
times has he threatened to sanctioned putin oh Man Nobel Prize.
Speaker 4 (01:24:51):
What a joke?
Speaker 7 (01:24:53):
Trump said he couldn't find any corners in the Oval office.
That is what the country is dealing with. Don't blame
the don't blame the Dems. If Biden had let ten
million illegals in the country, there would be no need
to get them out. Democrats act like illegals are choir boys.
Speaker 4 (01:25:10):
TJ.
Speaker 7 (01:25:11):
Says, I love markets, and I say hooray. We need
more clear eye realism about electricity and our power bills
and how it all works.
Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
Let's get back to the phones. Eight hundred and seven
sixty five Talk eight hundred seven six five eight two
five five Texters team to three or four talk three
oh four Bill in the Northern Outpost.
Speaker 29 (01:25:31):
SOPHIEA is very cordial. Dave just very cordial. And second Dave,
in the next few days, check your WVU WV Media Corp. Mailbox.
Third and the most important. Since the government shutdown, we've
talked about the Board of Education Paul Hertsley and the
realization of the school funding formula and what we're gonna do.
(01:25:55):
Then we talked about the co production and energy crisis.
And then we have town meeting in Moretown on Wednesday
night for the power line that's going to go from
Pennsylvania to Virginia with no indirect or direct benefit to
West Virginia. So effectively, over the last three weeks, you
bought real issues to the table on your program. And
(01:26:19):
then Hoppy comes in and says the vaccination issue is
in total chaos. I think you too, have done a
very nice job of bringing real issues to the table
and Hoppy can talk about chaos.
Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
Bill. Appreciate the steam. Eight hundred and seven six five talk.
Let's go to Ronald. Hey, Ronald, what's your steam?
Speaker 6 (01:26:42):
Hey?
Speaker 17 (01:26:43):
I hope you guys playing the bits in those Kings
rally A stream. It's gonna be pre refreshments there. It's
gonna be grape so that provided BLM Brothers and there's
gonna be some musical entertainment AOC and the Socialist Sisters
are coming in. They're really good. And from Germantown in Pennsylvania,
(01:27:09):
there's going to be a real good man little Jilly
Mango and the Antifa boys. And lastly, after all this
is done, there's there's going to be Greg Queen reading
and IRA for children.
Speaker 1 (01:27:24):
Thank you, Ronald, to have a great weekend. Appreciate the
phone call. Eight hundred and seven six five eight two
five five. That's the phone number you can text your
steam to three or four Talk three or four entered
seven sixty five Talking three or four Talk three four,
Final break and final steams for the week coming up.
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eight hundred seven sixty five eight two five five. You
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can always text your steam to three oh four talk
three oh four, three oh four eight two five five
three oh four. That is the text line, mister Meadows.
Let's get back to some text teams.
Speaker 7 (01:29:50):
Democrats are so outraged their people are being indicted based
on alleged political motives. That's exactly what was behind the
Trump indictments. When they went after Trump, they opened Pandora's box.
Democrats win in power, will indict Republicans. Republicans when in power,
will indict Democrats. What Democrats started will never end. Texter
(01:30:13):
says any links between Ace Freely and the Clintons. This
text says, I'm going to the Sofa Queen rally at
the Civic Center this Saturday. My steam is for the
full that thought it would be appropriate to decorate the
graveyard at Loudon Heights and Bridge Road in Charleston for Halloween.
The real headstones don't appreciate the fake ones. I live
(01:30:38):
up on a mountain and unfortunately the coal company sunk
our well in the fifties. Now for sixty years, all
of us were. All folks are forced to haul water
from a spring at the bottom of the mountain or
buy it from Walmarts. Where is our compensation? Texter says,
you would think all Americans would want no Kings, but
(01:30:59):
apparently not. Anti means against fa means and stands for fascism.
So Trump's calling our WW two vets terrorists. Ronnie, thank
you for the wonderful advertising for our No King's rally.
We plan to have all that entertainment and then some
(01:31:20):
It will be so much fun. Hey there, fellas, this
is a steam from Morgantown. My steam speeding on University
Avenue from the Van Voris Patterson intersection to Bowyer's Avenue
in either direction. Drivers need to slow it down, the
Texter says. Retired generals say we are heading towards dictatorship.
Speaker 4 (01:31:43):
So sad.
Speaker 7 (01:31:45):
He also says Putin puts a bounty on American soldiers.
Speaker 1 (01:31:51):
Dave.
Speaker 7 (01:31:52):
The Texter says, I asked you both to cite the
studies you've read on vaccine safety to help us be
more informed. Dave, you said that there are multiple studies
out there. You're doing a disservice to your listeners that way.
Please help us understand the safety of the studies. Text
line is three or four Talk three oh four, got
(01:32:13):
a couple more minutes if you would like to call
in eight hundred seven to sixty five Talk eight hundred
seven to sixty five eight two five to five.
Speaker 1 (01:32:19):
That is the phone number. Heading into week number eight
of the high school football season, got a plethora of
games on the schedule Tonight's Metro News high School Class
four a game of the Week Spring Mills at University.
The Triple A game is Capital Spring Valley Double a
game of the Week Logan Mingo Central, and our Class
(01:32:39):
single a game of the Week Riverview at Clay Battel.
Of course, we've got the entire schedule posted for you
up at the website right now wv Metronews dot com,
and later Tonight's after the conclusion of your local high
school football coverage on many of these same Metro news
radio stations, it'll be Fred Persinger and Dave Jack. They
(01:33:00):
will have scores from around the great state of West Virginia,
all the interviews, recaps, and analysis from Fred and Dave,
of course, with the help of Joe Nelson and his
crew tracking down the scores that's coming up later tonight
about ten o'clock to midnight. There's a mysterious nine to
thirty segment of that show that if your game ends
(01:33:22):
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nine to thirty segment. But ten to midnight tonight mentioned
these high school game night Red Pursing or Dave Jacklan
will have all of the scores from around the states.
Text line three four Talk three four. Israel owns America
and our politicians. Texter says, Ace see you and hell
(01:33:45):
brother anymore text teams on your line, TJ.
Speaker 4 (01:33:50):
Here we go.
Speaker 7 (01:33:51):
I've hed Goton policies are there because there's been little
news reporting. The press is so biased and they express
and express that bias in their reporting that we know
no longer trust them to give us honest facts. Texter says,
it doesn't matter anymore. Everybody knows the state sanctioned media
is fake. It's kind of late for you guys to
pretend that you haven't been co opted as well. Pete
(01:34:14):
hag Seth is an alcoholic or has alcohol use disorder
and needs to stop lying if he wants to do better.
Speaker 1 (01:34:21):
All right, that's going to do it for us. For today.
I'll be headed to I Got Mortgantown High School football tonight,
be on the Marshall broadcast tomorrow, and be back in
this chair on Monday morning. TJ have a great weekend,
you too, buddy. For Jake Link, Sophia Wasik and TJ.
Meadows Dave Wilson have a great weekend. We'll talk to
you Monday. This is Talko Line Metro News for forty years,
(01:34:42):
the voice of West Virginia.
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