Talkline | Sept. 12, 2025

Details on the arrest of the alleged assassin who killed Charlie Kirk. Steven Allen Adams, with Ogden Newspapers, talks vaccines. Chris Stirewalt stops by. Retired US Senator Joe Manchin discusses his new book and the problems in today's politics. 

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just a moment. Right now, let's go to Utah where
Utah Governor Spencer Cox has just announced that they have
a suspect in constanty they believe is the shooter who
killed Charlie Kirk. Let's go to Utah right now.

Speaker 5 (01:47):
Messages from the contact Tyler also mentioned that he had
changed outfits. I know there has been speculation as well
as to the writing on those casings, those those bullet casings,
and I believe we have that as well, and I

(02:10):
will share that with you now. So the area north
of Campus Drive Road where the suspect crossed over, you
saw some of that in the video that we released
last night consists of a grassy area with trees on
the edge of the UBU campus. Investigators discovered a bolt
action rifle wrapped in a dark colored towel. The rifle

(02:32):
was determined to be a Mouser Model ninety eight thirty
six thirty six caliber bolt action rifle. The rifle had
a scope mounted on top of it. Investigators noted inscriptions
that had been engraved on casings found with the rifle.
Inscriptions on a fired casing read notices, bulges, capital, O, WO,

(02:54):
what's this question?

Speaker 6 (02:56):
Mark?

Speaker 5 (02:56):
Inscriptions on the three unfired casings read hey, fascist, exclamation point, catch,
exclamation point up, arrow, symbol right arrow and symbol and
three down arrow symbols. A second unfired casing read oh bellichow, bellachow,
bellichow chow chow, and a third unfired casing read if

(03:20):
you read this, you are gay LMAO. We are indebted
to law enforcement across the state who has worked seamlessly
together local law enforcement, state law enforcement, and our federal
partners with the Federal Bureau of Investigation. We're grateful for

(03:41):
everyone who worked together in such a short amount of
time to find this person and to bring justice. I
want to think the public who has been so engaged reviewing,
reviewing videos, helping us with sending in tips, and helping
us get to this point. I want to thank the

(04:06):
family members of Tyler Robinson who did the right thing
in this case and we're able to bring him in
law enforcement as well. I especially want to thank the
family of Charlie Kirk Erica, Charlie's parents, his children. I

(04:28):
want us to be thinking of them as we bring
justice in this case. They will be involved in that justice.
We will be working very closely with them as we
move through this process as well. This is a very
sad day for again for our country. A terrible day
for the state of Utah, but I'm grateful that at

(04:50):
this moment we have an opportunity to bring closure to
this very dark chapter in our nation's history.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
That's Utah and Governor Spencer Cox. If you're just joining
US News talk line, Good morning, the Governor of Utah
announcing who they believe is the suspected gunman who killed
Charlie Kirk earlier this week. They have him in custody.
He was going over some of the evidence that had
been discovered. FBI Director Cash Patel is taking the podium

(05:21):
right now. Let's listen in to.

Speaker 7 (05:23):
Cash, President Trump, the Vice President, and the entire White
House who have been so incredibly supportive with both resources
and just personally to the FBI as a team. They
had our backs the entire way, and I just want
to express my gratitude for giving us the resources we
need to operate in this space to bring this sort
of justice at this sort of speed. In thirty three hours,

(05:44):
we have made historic progress for Charlie. Governor Cox, our
partnership has been absolutely incredible these last few days. Our
partnership will endure your state and local partners, your sheriffs,
your DPS community has been unbelievably impressive in the hardest
of times. In a case like this, cannot be solved,

(06:06):
cannot be brought without partnering with your state and local authorities.
The FBI has a certain role to play, and we
will play that role, and we will lead out for
the federal government. But Governor Cox, we are so grateful
for your state partnership that let out on this investigation.
A little bit of the timeline. Charlie was shot at
twelve twenty three pm on Wednesday. The first FBI agents

(06:28):
aren't arrived on scene in sixteen minutes with chiefs of
police at twelve thirty nine and secured the scene. The
FBI immediately launched fixed wing assets. We utilize these assets
to transport personnel, specialty technicians, hasa's rescue teams. We also
utilize these assets to go back and forth from the
East Coast and here in Utah to transport forensic evidence

(06:50):
and other evidence that will be analyzed and is being
analyzed at our FBI laboratories in Quantico and other laboratories
including the ATF. At my direction, the FI released the
first set of FBI photos of the suspect at ten
am Local time on nine to eleven. Then shortly thereafter,
the FBI reward of one hundred thousand dollars was released

(07:11):
at ten forty five am Local Myself and Deputy Director
Bondino arrived on the scene at approximately five thirty PM
on nine to eleven. The Governor led a press conference
last night at approximately eight pm, where in my direction,
the FBI released a never before seen video of the suspect.

(07:31):
We also released new images to the public of the suspect,
and just last night, the suspect was taken into custody
at ten pm Local time, in less than thirty six
hours thirty three to be precise, thanks to the full
weight of the federal government and leading out with the

(07:52):
partners here in the state of Utah and Governor Cox,
the suspect was apprehended in historic time period. And I
want to ighlight what Governor Cox said, This would not
have been possible without you, the media and you the public.
That's why we went so public so fast, and we're
so transparent, and we're committed to that transparency. The crime
scene just a little bit there. It is a large

(08:14):
crime scene. State and local authorities along with federal authorities,
processed that crime scene quickly, and I even had the
ability to walk through that crime scene and walk through
the steps the suspect took to learn more about what
was needed and what resources we needed to brere to

(08:34):
create a full picture for the FBI and leadership back
in Washington. Furthermore, thankfully to state and local partners, forensic
evidence has been seized and continues to be garnered. Forensic
evidence has already been evaluated FBI laboratories in Quantico and
state local authorities here. We will continue to process evidence
as we see it, as we collect it, and we
will continue to deliver to Governor Cox and his team.

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Last night, we had a total of approx. Me seven
thousand interviews excuse me, seven thousand leads.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
As of this.

Speaker 7 (09:04):
Morning, thanks to your great work, we have over eleven
thousand leads that were called in to the FBI, and
we are running out every single lead that we can.
Every one of those leads will be run out. The
arrest is a testament to dedication of good law enforcement
being great and partnerships in law enforcement, which I've tried

(09:25):
to highlight as my tenure at the Director of the FBI.
There is no better relationship for law enforcement than the
FBI to partner with state and local authorities. And you've
seen it here in these last few days. The FBI
Salt Lake Field Office, along with our offices in La Phoenix, Denver,
San Antonio, Las Vegas, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, our headquarters component in Quantico,

(09:46):
all participate in the FBI. I want to express my
deep gratitude to the employees of the FBI.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
And that's FBI Director Cash Patel. They are having a
news conference in Utah this morning. The suspect of the
suspected gunman who killed Charlie Kirk earlier this week taken
into custody last night. Let's bring TJ into the conversation here.
We'll do a quick reset and then we'll get into
what we were going to discuss in a moment to J.
But thirty three hours, seven thousand tips called in, eleven

(10:15):
thousand leads, they're working all those, but a suspect in
custody in Utah this morning.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
And you kind of got the feeling based on what
was being said early this morning, was the President saying
this morning on Fox and Friends Dave that they had
this suspect. People cautiously waiting the name came out, and
just an astonishing visual when you look into this individual's eyes,
and when you look into this photo and I have

(10:45):
to be blunt, no remorse, no feeling, just a blank
stare is how I would describe that photo. Mugshot this
morning being released. The suspect now in custody thirty three hours,
as you said, and it looks like friends and family
stepping forward to turn this individual in after those photos

(11:07):
were released yesterday.

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Right, We'll continue to follow this developing story from Utah.
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Three A four Talk three of four The Tax Line
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Break news this hour. In Utah, the suspected assassin who
killed Charlie Kirk this week is in custody. The Governor
of Utah, Spencer Cox, along with the FBI Director Cash
Hotel Law Enforcement Utah there holding a news conference as
we speak. I will continue to follow that developing story

(13:03):
this morning. All Right, TJ. Meadows is in Charleston. I
think Steve Adams is very patiently standing by as well.
Let me give him the full introduction. Stephen Allen Adams.
He is a columnist and a capitol reporter for Ogden Newspapers.
He was in Raleigh County yesterday in the courtroom in
Beckley where there was day two of the hearing that
involves religious exemptions the state's school vaccination requirements. Steven, good morning,

(13:29):
Thanks for joining us. Thanks for going to Raleigh County
as well. We all appreciate that. So what happened yesterday
in the courtroom?

Speaker 11 (13:36):
Yeah, well I got to sit in for half a
yesterday's hearing, and yesterday they were hearing the expert testimony
on behalf of the state school Board, the Raleigh County
School Board and the intervener who is representing a unidentified
believed teacher in the Raleigh County school system who is immunocompromise,

(13:58):
so they have an interest in this case. But the
main testimony really kind of came from doctor Kathy Sleep
She's the former state health officer. She's done a stint
doing that in the Mansion administration and most recently for
Governor Jim Justice, helping leading us through the first handful
of months of the COVID nineteen pandemic. Before all that,

(14:18):
she worked a as an epidemiologists within the former DJHR,
So someone very well qualified to talk about what our
law is in regards to vaccines for school age children,
for public for private school children, how it's implemented, how
the medical exemptions work, which is the only exemption in
state code that's allowed, and talking really about how these

(14:44):
vaccines for children have really protected not just the children
in schools, but protected communities where these are happening. So
very interesting testimony, a lot of good data showing how
well West Virginia's vaccine program has worked compared to her
neighboring states, and really kind of the need to still
have something along those lines in place.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Not trying to disparage that testimony, good data. Interesting. Does
it matter? Why are we going through this exercise? Does
it matter?

Speaker 11 (15:13):
That's the question we all have. It's while we're going
through this exercise. As we all know and have reported,
there is a pending appeal of the preliminary junction. These
hearings that were going on the last two days were
for the permanent injunction to keep the local and state
school officials from enforcing the compulsory vaccine law and requiring

(15:34):
them to accept the religious exemptions from the State Department
of Health that have been made possible by Governor Morrissey's
executive order. So again, we're still in this in Raleigh County.
We have a pending Supreme Court peal, and by the way,
it doesn't look like we're coming back to the Raleigh
County Court probably till the first or the beginning of
the second week of October. And there's also other emotions pending,

(15:59):
some fire being made. This is being dragged out, and
of course the Supreme Court scheduling order puts a lot
of this stuff going into February next year. So why
are we here, Why are we still doing this permanent
injunction when we have an appeal? Nobody really has a
good answer for that.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Stephen Allen Adams Ogden Newspapers joining us also Stephen. Yesterday,
Senator Jim Justice was on this program when we talked
about the vaccine exemptions, and he said, you know, the
CDC has been around a long time. You know, these
vaccines are proven in every way. You know where I
stood when I was your governor. You know we're in
regards to the vaccine. President Trump stands right with me

(16:38):
in regard to the vaccine. Today basically said why are
we doing this? I paraphrase a teed. Governor Morrissey responded
on X yesterday saying West Virginia should not be one
of the only five states that don't respect religious liberty,
and I am not going to let politicians disrespect these
basic rights. Respectfully. I don't agree with the very liberal
position being asserted by Senator Justice, and somehow you ended

(17:01):
up in the middle of.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
It as well.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Well, it's funnily, I think.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Yeah, well sort of.

Speaker 11 (17:06):
I was already working on a piece for our papers
this week and just sort of on the differences between
current Governor Morrissey and former Governor Justice because it is
kind of interesting. Justice, of course, vetoed a bill that
would have weakened childhood vaccine requirements going into twenty twenty
four election. Former Congressman Alex Mooney tried to make that
an issue in a Republican primary for US Senate, but

(17:26):
didn't make a dent, and Justice easily won. That primary
and of course he's our US senator now, and he
was a big proponent of vaccines, particularly the COVID vaccine.
Was the first one to get it, first one to
get it in the nursing homes living facility. So he's
very passionate about that issue. And of course we know
Morrisey's very passionate about religious liberty, which is why he

(17:47):
did the executive order. He tried to do a bill
during the session, which of course went down in flames
in the House. But we're still living under this executive order.
That's what all these court cases are really about. So
I gotta tell you when always blew up. Yet yesterday
I took me by surprise. I listened to talk Line
yesterday to hear what the senator's remarks were on that.

(18:10):
I sent a request for comment to the Governor's office,
and before they could respond, the governor himself, Governor Morrissey
was responding on social media a trying to say to
Trump administration baxist, which there's some question about that. Certainly
Robert F. Kennedy, to Health and Human Services Secretary, does
supported but I don't know where Trump stands specifically on this.
We do know where he stands on to Florida attempt

(18:32):
to get rid of all their vaccines, and he talked
about that Friday, and TJ you wrote about that as well,
so big.

Speaker 12 (18:38):
Back and forth.

Speaker 11 (18:39):
I got to talk to Senator Justice later in the day,
and again he doubled down on everything he said on
talk line yesterday. It's just a real food fight that
I don't know really has to exist.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
So I try to liken what the President said about
Florida to West Virginia in that can we all agree
that what we have right now in West Virginia is philosophical?
It's not religious. I mean, you can turn a less
are in and be done with it. To me, that's philosophical.

Speaker 11 (19:02):
It's funny you bring that up, because that was a
big question that opened up the hearing yesterday, with Judge
Froebel asking some questions about, wait, is there a difference
between the religious and philosophical exemptions or they wanted the
same To state argues, they're just they're the same thing,
and you know they are being treated the same.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
But Judge Froebel.

Speaker 11 (19:21):
Really brought up some actually interesting questions about well, wait,
are we opening up the door then for just anyone
to say, you know that, well, I just don't like vaccines,
I don't like needles, I don't believe in vaccines. Are
we opening up the door for a flood of various
non medical exemptions. And he's more interested in the religious

(19:42):
aspect of it because he's trying to interpret you know, EPRA,
the Religious Protection Law from twenty twenty three. That's his
only real concern. So he's wondering how much authority he
even has to interpret the philosophical portion of US. So
all of US raises really good questions.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
So if it's ten amount, though, anybody can get it
any time for any reason, that is somewhat equal or equal.
I would think that what Florida is doing, which is
no mandate, So I would think what Trump said about
Florida would hold water here in West Virginia. I just
don't buy this Trump administration RFK, I buy Trump administration.

Speaker 11 (20:17):
I don't buy it, and real quick, I mean the
governor mortly keeps point out where an outlier outlier forty
five states have some form of a religious and or
philosophical exemption. But as I have to often point out,
those states have some hoops. You guys, jump through. Sometimes
it's half of davits. Sometimes parents have to watch videos
talking about the dangers of going unvaccinated and what these

(20:38):
viruses and diseases do. We don't have that in this case.
It's possible if he'd craft something like that in the
next legislative session, that might be something allmakers, particularly in
the House, can get behind. But we haven't seen that yet.
Even the build it he introduced was wide opened. So
I think you're right. I think Trump's comments really kind
of can apply to both and.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Steven to your final comment there, and we're going to
wrap it up because we're at the bottom of the hour.
But if he crafts a bill, there are I know
for a fact, there are members of the House who
voted no last year that said, look, if we have
a better bill, you can convince us this was not
a good craft a good bill, get it through the legislature,
and then we can move on.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (21:16):
Well, just real quick, obviously twenty of the Supreme Court. Yeah,
the Supreme Court case is going to take us into February.
I think everyone wants the next legislative session to pass
a bill. That's the focus, and I think that's what
we'll have to see you know if that happens.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Steven Aden Adams on to newspapers, Capitol Reporter columnists always
appreciate it. Thank you for your patience, Steven.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Thanks gentlemen.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Coming up, Chris Starwalt will join us. This is talk
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Speaker 13 (21:56):
West Virginia Metro News. I'm Jeff Jenkins. A Rowley County
Circuit judges schedule the ongoing fight over vaccinations in West
Virginia for two more days of testimony next month, as
Michael Froebol is considering a permanent injunction for a few
Roley County parents who have signed up for religious exemptions
to the vaccine requirements connected to school entry. US Andrew
Shelley Moore Capito was asked about the debate during her

(22:17):
call with West Virginia reporters Thursday.

Speaker 14 (22:19):
I know there's a debate going on here, but I
personally think that removing all men, all required vaccinations would
be a step in the wrong direction, and I believe
that's what President Trump said at his last press common.

Speaker 13 (22:33):
Now Florida has made that move. There's been no move
in West Virginia to remove all vaccinations. U S Center
Jim Justice also commenting. Read more at WV metronews dot com.
The WV Board of Governors meeting this morning in Morgantown.
Several items on that agenda, and the Board of Governor's
heard last hour from Governor Patrick Morrissey. He's in Morgantown
for several events associated with the Backyard Brawl. Manton Neir

(22:56):
fans already arriving in Morgantown for tomorrow's big game with
pitt WVO Alumni Association CEO Kevin Barry says they schedule
a lot of activities around the game.

Speaker 15 (23:04):
It's going to be one of the busier Saturdays that
we've had here at the Erickson Alumni Center. You know,
we have our School of Medicine. They're doing an alumni
tailgate here in the building. We do a game day
experience called Heil West Virginia where we have alumni who
basically come in and participate here. It's all throughout the building.

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Speaker 13 (24:23):
Looks like good weather in Southern West Virginia tomorrow for
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This year, we want the focus to be more of
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The Manor Scholarship is now fully endowed. From the Metro
News anchor desk, I'm Jeff Jenkins.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Metro News talk Line continues coming up top of the hour,
retired senator, former governor, former Secretary of State, former Delegate
Joe Manchin going to join us. He's got a new
book coming out next week. He's got an event in
Morgantown tonight. We will talk to him about the book
that's coming up. Eleven oh six this morning. Dave Wilson, Morgantown,

(25:36):
TJ's in Charleston joining us on Metro News talk Line
this morning a little bit earlier than usual because you
know Joe Manchin's coming on. Chris tyrewalts He's the politics
editor for The Hill and News Nation. He's host of
The Hill Sunday on News Nation and a fellow senior
at American Enterprise Institute. Also an author himself.

Speaker 17 (25:55):
Chris, good morning, quite so, quite so, quite so, gentlemen.
Good to be with you, Happy Fredick.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Good to be have you. Did you get an early
copy of the Mansion Book? We were not privy to
the early copies. There was another retired guy that got one, though.

Speaker 17 (26:10):
Oh well, you know, hoppy being hoppy is going to
hobby gonna hop.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
I'm waiting to go on the audio book myself, but
I digress.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Nick Saban wrote. Nick Saban wrote the forward to the
book too, So we've got we've got all the big
guns coming out.

Speaker 17 (26:26):
Yeah. The consequence of that small region of West Virginia
on American public life in the past twenty five years
has far outstripped the population.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
So, Chris, we fell into this this week, and maybe
because there wasn't anything else to say. And I'll admit
I'm as guilty as this as anybody talking about the
need to lower the temperature on the political rhetoric. We've
got to lower the temperature in the room. And you
point out in your column this week that sounds great,

(27:00):
but that's there's not a whole lot of meaning behind that.
We have to put some meaning to that.

Speaker 17 (27:05):
Do you remember when the NFL put the words end
racism in the back of the end zone.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, choose love?

Speaker 17 (27:12):
Yes, well, choose love is you know whatever, that's yay,
but end racism. Who is the person who knows that
they're racist, that sees in the end zone of an
NFL game end racism and they're like, oh my gosh,
it occurs to me. You're right, I'm going to stop
being a racist. No, it just if you if you

(27:37):
are racist and don't know that you're racist, then you
don't think that messages for you. If you are racist,
you don't care what the NFL end zone says. When
we tell people to lower the temperature, we say we
need to lower the temperature. You guys are not temperature razors.
You hear that or you say that, and you say, yeah,

(27:59):
that's right. That's why we do what we do. We
do what we do the way we do it because
we want to have a better discourse, and we want
to have a good dialogue so that you can preach
to the converted. For the people who are raising the temperature,
either they don't know that they're doing it, or they
think that theirs is different or acceptable because this time

(28:22):
is different, or the other side is worse, or whatever else.
So the idea of we need to lower the temperature,
nobody who needs nobody who can help lower the temperature
is likely going to be affected by that message. We
need different incentives, right, We need to change the incentives
in a system that continues to produce political violence. John Brown,

(28:45):
with his famous intersection with West Virginia history, They're at
Harper's Ferry, made his name, made his celebrity nationally by
killing a lot of people in Kansas. What John Brown
did in Kansas was rational. It was wicked, but it
was rational because the game was arranged in such a

(29:08):
way that it was a rational choice. And by the way,
the pro slavery forces in Kansas and bleeding Kansas in
the run up to the Civil War, they were acting
rationally too, because the stakes of the election that they
were going to have in Kansas to determine whether it
was a free state or a slave state was if
you were an abolitionist, whether or not human beings would

(29:29):
be killed, enslaved, oppressed, have their humanity stripped from them.
And if you say we have an election and the
outcome is either evil or good, then what would you
do to win that election? How would you try to
shape that outcome? And we have a politics in which
both of our parties substantially agree, right, we're at like

(29:50):
an eighty percent agreement space. But we are also told
that if the other side wins the next election, life
as we know it, the country as we know it,
is over. When you set the stakes that high, you're
going to when you turn the burner up to that
degree in terms of what is at stake in this election,

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you're gonna.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Boil over, for sure, Chris.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Is it also because of the laboratory we find ourselves
living in today. And here's what I mean by that.
We spend all our time on social media. It's dehumanized,
it's not real community. I wrote today about the back
porch my grandparents. Back porch. People would take a walk,
a stroll around town. They would end up on the
back porch. They would talk for thirty minutes to an hour.
They were civil to each other. You learn to know

(30:38):
your neighbors, so you learned to care for your neighbor.
And me, being the little guy sitting around seeing all
this discourse and how it happened, that was a great
example for me growing up. I don't know that my
kids have that today. I mean, is that why?

Speaker 18 (30:51):
We?

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Bet they do?

Speaker 17 (30:52):
I bet they do. I bet your kids have that.
I bet you have a lovely family. I bet I'm
in with the neighbors. I don't know my neighbors as
well as I should. Admittedly I don't have that kind
of community as well as I should. So I hate
to be this guy, but I always this is the
role that the Good Lord has given me. And I've
been asked about this social media thing multiple times this

(31:15):
week and since I've written about these subjects and all
of this stuff, and I have to say, yes, it's
fine to talk about the role that social media plays,
but we should, as members of the traditional media, talk
about the role that our business plays in this. Right,
how traditional media we were screwed up before social media?

(31:39):
Right when Timothy McVeigh bombed the Murrah Building in Oklahoma
City in nineteen ninety three. It wasn't because of social media.
That didn't happen because he was radicalized online. One of
the hardest things for us to accept is that human
nature has no history. People do not. The nature of

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humanity has not changed in for ten thousand years of
written history or the history that we know. We're the
same people, with the same hates and loves and capacity
for greatness, and capacity for wickedness and vice and virtue,
struggling with each other within the incentives change, the circumstances changed.
You know the story about the thought experiment about a

(32:23):
Viking baby. If you went back to if you went
a thousand years ago or twelve hundred years ago, and
you took a Viking baby and brought him to Hurricane
Hurricane West Virginia or Cross Lanes and raised that Viking
baby there, and you took a baby from Cross Lanes
and took him to Viking controlled Denmark a thousand years ago,

(32:47):
what would happen. The baby who grew up in Cross
Lanes would be just like everybody else in Cross Lanes,
and the kid from Cross Lanes who was taken to
Denmark would grow up to cut people's throats and drink
their blood. And it's the same person. It's the same
person at the same place at every time. Social media

(33:08):
is has has uncorked a lot of stuff within us,
but so did cable news, and so did so does
any of this stuff done poorly? And human frailty and
violence is not new. In fact, it is the norm
in human history.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Chris Dyrewald joining us here at Metro News talk Line,
and I'm going to dare wade into this, but there
was a paragraph in your column that stood out to me.
And this is just observations from you know, simple guy
here in West Virginia book.

Speaker 17 (33:40):
Wait a minute, that's my stick.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
You can't that's that's my stick, simple guy here. But
you point out the apocalyptum, the apocalyptic type nature we
speak of with the leg this is the last election.
Democracy is on the line. It scares people and then
it gives people's lives a purpose. Are going to save
the country. We're going to save democracy. And here's where

(34:04):
I am a little have a little trepidation waiting in.
But Chris, it seems to me the further away, the
less religious our country get, the less the more it's
about me, the person and your purpose isn't to serve
God or to proselytize, whatever your religion may be, and
it becomes about you, and you still seek out that

(34:27):
purpose in life. And we turn to politics, and now
it's to save democracy, it's to save this particular group.
There's that purpose that I think traditionally religion filled, community
service filled, and I wonder if we've lost that.

Speaker 17 (34:43):
There are two great commandments. Love the Lord your God
with all your heart, with all your mind, with all
your strength. And the second is like it, love your
neighbor as yourself.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Love guys.

Speaker 17 (34:52):
On this all the laws and profits depend and the
David Foster Wallace gave it an amazing speech. I talk
about it all the time to the graduating class of
Kenyon College twenty years ago, and he said something important
and everybody should look it up. It's called this is water.
Everybody should listen to it and think about it, because

(35:16):
he tells us a disturbing truth we all worship. There
are no functional atheists in adult life. Everybody worships something
the difference of being an adult and CSO has talked
about the chest in the classical thought of how humanity
was arranged. Your head and your heart, but you also
had your chest, and your chest is where you order

(35:37):
your passions, where you order the things that matter to you.
That's where your priorities are set. It is the mediating
organ between your head and your heart. And we all
worship something. Being a grown up, being an adult is
deciding what you will worship. What is it that you
will worship? And everybody worships something. And yet in societies

(36:01):
where you have a core religious community, the John Adams line,
this is a system of government designed for a virtuous people.
It is designed for a people who understand that, at
very least they are not God right. I don't know
everything about God, but I know that I am not him.

(36:22):
I am not in charge of the universe, and I
am not What I am here to do is the
next right thing that's put in front of me. And
I fail very often, probably more often than I succeed.
But I know that I am not in charge of
the universe. That humility and that beginning of an ordered
way of looking at it. And I can't say that

(36:43):
it doesn't matter which one you pick, but I can
say that living in an increasingly unfaithful, disrupted, spiritually disrupted
society in which people do not know that they are
not God, leads us to some very difficult whole places.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
Chris, how do we balance that humility with the desire
for things to be better? Because I agree with you,
I subscribe to the teachings of the Bible. I'm a
Christian the Fall. It's been wrong since the Fall Man.
We are inherently evil. We can talk about the roadmap
of how that ends. But at the same time, despite
what I know and what I believe will come to pass,

(37:25):
knowing I'm not God, I still have this grand desire
for something better. I want to see us be better.
How can I How can I reconcile those two?

Speaker 17 (37:36):
Calvin Coolidge said that, he said, I've never had any
political strategy that I can remember, only to try to
do the right thing and sometimes succeed right In that
note the whole Hog politics note that I hope everybody
subscribes to. But I wrote about dead reckoning. We live

(38:02):
in a system. If you guys are too young for this,
I mean I'm too young for it. But Jimmy Stewart
made a great movie called The Spirit of Saint Louis
about Charles Lindberg's flight across the Atlantic great movie, and
he talks about dead reckoning, and dead reckoning means that
you don't have one flight plan. You reach points and

(38:23):
then you adjust, and then you adjust. And that's how
ships do.

Speaker 12 (38:26):
Right.

Speaker 17 (38:26):
You go for a while, or this is how they
used to do. You go for a while, and then
you check the stars, check the sounding, check the thing
that's around you. Are you where you're supposed to be,
and if you are off course, you will have to
get back on course. And the way that we have,
the blessing that we have, is that we have a
system with an iterative politics. We go this way for

(38:47):
a little while, and then we go that way, and
then we go this way, and we go that way.
And it's really frustrating for people who want who embrace
the concept of total victory that one day will win,
my side will win, and then the bad people will
be made to go away and will have everything that
we want, when in truth, the beauty of the system
is that two years is not very long. Two years

(39:09):
the Republicans will be up. They took control of Washington,
and then in two years they'll be up again. In
less than two years now, and then the Democrats will
probably pick up some seats, and we'll dead reckon in
another direction, and back and forth and back and forth.
Politics is what we have to avoid killing each other.
It is not something to kill each other for. We

(39:31):
have politics to resolve our disputes and our differences in
a way that does not include violence. So if you
are killing somebody over politics, you are not only attacking
that person in what that person believes, you are also
attacking the system itself that we have devised to peacefully

(39:51):
and peaceably resolve our differences.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
He's Chris Starr Want Politics editor for The Hill, host
of The Hill Sunday on News Nation, Senior fellow at
the America Enterprise Institute, an author of Broken News, Why
the media rage Machine divides America and How to fight
back against it. By the way, you can still get
it over on Amazon. Chris, always appreciate it. Thank you
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I almost called you, Chris for a second. I had
a total brain fart there. Chris, TJ. Dave Allen, whatever
your name is down in Charleston. I know I would
never call you David. I would never insult you like that,
to call you Dave Allen, my goodness. I just want
to touch on this quickly because this deserves probably about
two minutes and we can move on. Yesterday, the West

(43:26):
Virginia GOP the Republican Party, put out a statement condemning
a post made on social media by Delegate Anitra Hamilton
of Montingelia County. In that post, she certainly applied implied
she was talking about Charlie Kirk, basically insinuating that he

(43:46):
was racist and that his debates were racist. Those posts
have since been deleted. They as far as I can
see checking this morning, those post have been deleted. We
will reach out to Delegate Hamilton, invite her on we
can have a conversation about this, but ultimately TJ with
issues like this, I say, it's up to the voters.
Just like when we were talking about social media and

(44:07):
delegate Masters earlier this year, it'll be up to the
voters of the districts to determine whether or not they
want her to represent them.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
And let the well side well said, you know, her
speech is protected. She's free to post it on Facebook.
People are free to judge it. It is not free
from consequence. And you know that the founders understood that
the marketplace of public opinion is often the great equalizer
in that it will determine whether or not something is

(44:35):
a valid idea and a thought that should move forward. Personally,
I found her conclusions ill timed. I found them provocative
and unfairly directed to Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk was many things.
He was sharp tongued. He is not and was not
a racist.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Again, the post have been deleted. The geopeople at out
of statement yesterday. You can read their statement online. Judge
for yourself. All right, coming up, wrap up our number one.
Get ready for Joe Manson. It's talk Line from the
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Speaker 1 (46:27):
All right, I'm being told the posters still there. I
didn't see him the one I checked five minutes ago.
Judge for yourself, Judge for yourself.

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Speaker 1 (46:37):
Coming up, Joe Manchin's going to join us. He's got
a new book coming out that will be on sale
next week. He's got an event in Morgantown tonight. Happy
Kerchibal will be leading the conversation. We'll talk to the
retired senator. It's hard to call him retire and he's
probably just as busy as he's ever been. The former Senator,
former governor, former Delegate Joe Manchin going to join us,

(46:57):
coming up on the other side of the break, and
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Speaker 3 (48:10):
A good morning. How are you dad?

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Hey, it's a football Friday. By the way. Metro News
High school game Night coming up later tonight on many
of these same probably all these same Metro News radio stations.
Fred and Dave will have all the scores from around
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(48:33):
days of the week or Friday and Saturday.

Speaker 6 (48:34):
TJ.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
You forgot golf on a Saturday, Throw that in and
you're all right by me. There's no time for golf,
Oh old contrere, my friend. There is always time for
nine holes at least, all right. Steamer Lea's coming up
at the bottom of the hour. I don't know if
our next guest has time for golf or not. He's
supposedly retired, but he's probably as busy as ever. He's

(48:57):
got a new memoir coming out. It'll be on sale
next week dead Center in Defense of common Sense. He'll
be talking about it tonight during an event in Morgantown,
which will be moderated and hosted by the former host
of the show, Hopey Kurchwell. Joining us on Much News
talk Line this morning, former Senator, former governor, Secretary of
State Delegates Joe Manchin.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Good morning, sir. Good to see you.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
Hey Dave. How are you all house TJ? And you're
doing okay?

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Have a good day today, doing doing pretty well, doing
pretty well. Do you have time for golf in retirement?
Are you a guy? I?

Speaker 4 (49:30):
You know, when I was in college, we never had
a golf course in Farmington, so I didn't play any
golf at all until I went to college and then
my room we were roommate at football and me and a
basketball guys. The basketball guys were a pretty good golfer,
so they took us and kind of taught us. Now
I really loved it and got into it, and then
with my life and my family and work, I didn't

(49:51):
get to do much of it. So I'm a kind
of a two three times a year golfer.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
It's a perfect time to get back in Senator, That's
all I'll say.

Speaker 4 (49:59):
I know, Tej, I agree with you. I need to,
I really. The thing I love about is the camaraderie
you have with a good force him and next to
the beauty of every course.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
Joe, I gotta be honest with you. When I go golf,
I don't think about anything else, and it's nice to
clear my mind. I like it. I can suck on
the course of that day, but the two hours to
play nine holes or whatever that I don't think about
anything else.

Speaker 4 (50:21):
Hey, Dave, let me hold on tech. Lem Me tell
you this. I don't either. When I hit a good shot,
when I hit a bad shot, I said, how much
more things I can be doing productive today? Redentation, this
little ball around, it's going all over the damn course.
So I'm thinking of that boss play. That ball was
supposed to go that way. I know it was supposed
to go that far left or right or wherever it went. Okay,

(50:43):
I'm sorry, guys.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
Former senator, former governor, former A lot of things set
Joe Manson joining us. His book Dead Center in Defense
of Common Sense will be coming out next week. It's
a declaration of independence from the extremes of both sides
and revealing an entertaining memoir. We've kind of been talking
about this this week, given the events of what happened
with the tragic murder of Charlie Kirk. The how we

(51:05):
have gone into this extreme rhetoric. Everything is the end
of the world, right, every election is the most important.
Got to save democracy. This is how do we move
away from that?

Speaker 4 (51:19):
You know, it's we got to de weaponize it. Okay,
it's been weaponized, It truly has, and it's basically been normalized.
It's been weaponized. First, that means you have to fear
the other side and hate them. If you fear them, Okay,
I'm both sides. You're guilty. That is exactly what they're
doing and it has to stop. The other thing is that,

(51:40):
you know, there's no camaraderie whatsoever, and there's buffering and
there's no retaliation. Now they've normalized it to the point
where other people says, where I can just speak derogatory
about you, I can do everything I can to demonize
you and make you look like the worst human being
in the world, or the ugliest or stupidest or whatever,
and basically people will hate you. That's what I need

(52:00):
to do because I want you to be I don't
want you to be a competitor. I don't think I
should be able to compete with you or I don't
want to compete with you, so I'll just destroy you
as a human being. I've never I thought public service
was to serve the bottom line. I've never seen a
Republican or a Democrat that I didn't think was my friend.
They might have different ideas, but I knew we all
had to work together, and by working together, we could

(52:23):
find a solution. Today they can't even identify a problem
they agree on. But if you have a problem that
they don't agree on, they'll destroy you about it until
people really take it back, and I think theyve this
government of ours it's still fragile. It's two hundred and
forty plus years old, but it's fragile. And the thing
of it is, no one ever thought that we could

(52:43):
govern ourselves, that we the people could govern ourselves, that
we could choose who we wanted to represent us, and
they would do it. And right now, the way the
system is, the Democrat and Republican party, the closed primaries
that people have. Now you can't compete. You can't. Basically
you have a majority of people voting in a general election,

(53:04):
but they go through a primary process where the parties
have total control and only give you two people who
you never had a chance to even vote for it
because you might have been registered like myself. Is no
party affiliation, and if you live in this where you
can't participate, then you can't get involved. And the bottom
line is you're going to be voting for somebody that
you don't really think might be representing you or is

(53:27):
in it to put country before themselves and country before party,
a country before loyalty, the only loyalty we should have.
And the way this whole thing was set up is
you get elected, especially in Congress, you take an oath
of office to protect and defend the Constitution, and that
means all of us, that means everybody, and the pursuit
of happiness means that you have to guarantee you will

(53:49):
protect that person so that they can pursue the happiness
of this great country. And no matter whether you agree
or disagree only thing about it. You have so many
people that might believe that their way of life is
everyone should agree, and they try to force it upon you.
I'm going to protect you to enjoy yourself and pursue
whatever life and whatever love you may have. Just don't

(54:11):
force it upon me if I don't believe that. But
my responsibility is to protect you, to enjoy that once
they can get that in their head and thinking that, hey,
you don't have to agree with me, just make sure
you understand that I enjoy this and this is my
pursuit of happiness. And I don't know, we just lost
our way. We just lost our way and we got
to get back. But it's on the people. If we

(54:32):
don't get involved, I can't even recruit people to run
for office anymore. And now with all this, with all
this horrible, my prayers go out to Charlie Kirk's wife
and his children and his family and everybody that loved
him and knew him. And I didn't know Charlie. I
never followed that at all. But in political reality, I
know what death threats are. I've had them, and it's

(54:55):
a shame. I think anybody that is willing to basically
take us stand and believe in what they believe in.
But you just don't have to in center, you know,
incentivize people by saying that is a horrible person. I
hate that person. They shouldn't even be around, they shouldn't
even be involved. Okay, no you don't. I disagree, I

(55:15):
respectfully disagree. We're working through our differences, and you know what,
at the end of the day, we might just vote
opposite because we can't come to an agreement. But that's
the process. Respect that, but don't identify a person who
you think is horrible. I mean someone's voted for him.
If they're in office, they're representing a certain segment of society,

(55:36):
and my responsibility is to try to work with them.
I'm always trying to get to yes. I always want to.
If a person comes to me as a problem in
the political arena, I want to help them. They have
a problem. They wouldn't have done it. They wouldn't have
introduced a bill unless they thought it would fix something
that was wrong in their state, in their district. But
if I can't, I'm going to do everything I can

(55:57):
to try to get to yes. And if I can't,
I'll give them the reasons I can't, and if they
want to make some changes, maybe then we could. So
you have a pathway forward. And remember this, guys, it
is hard to they know to your friends. It is
hard if you know somebody. But if you don't want
to build a relationship and I don't want to really
know about you or your family, what your hobbies are,
what you like and don't like. It's going to be

(56:18):
pretty easy for me to say no because it really
doesn't mean a whole lot. That's what's wrong. Get to
know the people that you're electing. Get to know who
they are, make sure they know who you are, and
I guarantee you maybe you'll get better results.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
Is that why we are today's senator? We don't know people.
It's hard to love people.

Speaker 4 (56:35):
We don't know. We don't it's hard. It's guys, it's
I don't need to tell you that. You know, you
have your group that you really enjoy with, whether you're
playing golf or whether you're going to a game, or
whether you're having a dinner party or doing just a
couple of friends over those are people you really can have.
You should be able to have very direct, frank talks,
respectful way. I always said this, it's hard to say

(56:58):
no to your friend. But if you have to say
no to your friend and you do it with a
tear in your eye, as my friend, you're going to
have to know that it hurts me as much to
not agree with you as it is for you to
hear that I don't agree with you. But if I
give you a reason that I'm not agreeing, and you're
going to say, well, I can't fix that. We just
have to be different on this. There's nothing wrong with that.

(57:19):
We'll go on to the next subject. No one's taking
that time to really depend and spend the time with
people they don't know, let alone their own friends, to
explain the differences. But I've seen it. I thought when
I was going to Washington, I was going to the
big leagues. Okay, heck, I thought I went back to
the little leagues again. The way they were bickering and
fighting over things and saying, oh, you got to be

(57:39):
against that person because they're running for reelection. Wait a minute,
just because I had a deeba my name and I
have a dear friend over here it has an R
by their name, and they're running for a reelection and
you want me to be against them? Are you crazy?
I'm not going to do that. Or don't sign on
to a bill because it might make them look good.
I said, don't do that. Please, don't do that. I said.

(58:00):
The bottom line is is that if it's a good
piece of legislation, I'm for it. If it's a friend
I want to work with him, whether they have a
deer or R by their name. That doesn't happen anymore.
I tried to introduce a piece of legislation that said
it was an ethical violation for us to campaign against
each other. You should not be able to campaign against
the setting colleague because you got to work with him.

(58:21):
So you go home on the weekend, you campaign against
somebody that you got to work with on Monday. I'll
guarantee you human nature is that person I want to
work with anymore. That's what happens.

Speaker 12 (58:31):
Guys.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
Former Senator Joe Manchin joining us on mention new talk line.
His new book, Dead Center and Defensive Common Sense coming
out next week. Got an event in Morgantown later tonight.
You've been in public life, you know, since you were
a delegate Marion County and Secretary of State, right.

Speaker 4 (58:48):
Nineteen eighty two. Nineteen eighty two, guys, nineteen eighty two,
I've done forty two years.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
So give us a little teaser. Give us an example.
What might we learn about Joe Mansion that we don't
already in this book.

Speaker 4 (59:02):
I think everyone wants to know why, how to get
to the pinnacle basically and I didn't ask for it,
I didn't lobby for it, But in the one hundred and
seventeenth Congress when it was split fifty to fifty and
done that way for over one hundred years, it split
fifty to fifty for the whole two years of that Congress,

(59:23):
and my one vote, anybody's one senator on the Democratic
side being the majority party, could change everything. One Democratic senator,
but it was my one vote. It seemed to come
down to every time it was a very very hot issue,
difficult issue, piece of legislation at BBB or whatever that
it came down to, and you find yourself in that position.

(59:46):
How did I get through that? Well, basically, it's where
I was raised Farmington, West Virginia. The type of people
I was raised with. I had unconditional love. Every day.
I knew that my parents, my grandparents, aunts, uncles loved
me no matter what, and they expect me to do
right and expecting me to give something back and help
others who couldn't help themselves. So it's kind of a

(01:00:07):
basic formula of how did you get to where you
got to, But it basically tells where you came from,
and that was what was special about West Virginia and
little coal mining town like Farmington and other little towns
we have, and not only in West Virginia, but rural America.
And I think that's the fabric of America. Can you

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imagine how surreal it is coming from that background, the
humbling background, And you think about it, and here you
are setting in the White House, in the Oval Office,
which is you and the President of the United States
and the most powerful country in the world, superpower, and
you've got to say no, I'm so sorry, I can't
do that. I don't agree, and I'm trying to get

(01:00:48):
to yes, but it doesn't work this way. And you
go through that and you find yourself, how in the
world did this happened? But I took an oath of
office to protect them, then the constitution and to allow
everyone the pursuit of happiness, but also on the other hand,
to be responsible. This government only works if we participate.

(01:01:11):
And if you've got a majority of people that don't vote,
that won't participate, that don't contribute back, that don't volunteer,
that don't give anything back and expect everything in return,
it will not work. And are we getting to that?
As politics divide it so bad. You pick a side
and pick what side you're on, and once you pick
that side, the other side is evil and they're basically
the enemy, and you've got to defeat them. I'm sorry,

(01:01:34):
that is not They represent a form of democracy that
we have in this country, in this beautiful republic of ours,
and until the voters start demanding different from the people
representing him and saying, wait a minute, this is about
you or about me? Is this about our country or
is it about your political position? You know? And I'm
almost coming to the conclusion we have to have term limits.

(01:01:56):
And I say that respectfully because I was in southern
West Virginia five or ten years ago during a town
hall of little lady, beautiful lady go and said, yeah,
I wish you were for term limits, and I'm thinking, well,
I gave her all the reasons why I wasn't. I
told her we're going to lose an awful lot of
people with a lot of knowledge and expertise. I went

(01:02:16):
on and on. She finally said this, Joe, just think
about it. If we had term limits, maybe we get
one good term out of you. And I'm thinking that
would I had, Hey, guys, I couldn't come back.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
I agreed.

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
I said, I'm sorry, you've convinced me. I'm over. I'm
changed because their now, well, look about how divided we are.
May would give enough courage to elected officials around this
country to give one good term of service without the
repercussion of thinking you might not get realted.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
You talk about fixing a broken system. You talk about
that in your book. I wrote favorably about ranked choice voting.
I think it's a good audent for no other reason
that we loves it. Well here in West Virginia, Senator,
we didn't try it, we didn't talk about it. We
just decided to ban it and we enacted that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:05):
Let's go a little bit further that. Back when I'm
Secretary of State in two thousand and one, the Democratic
Party would not open up and let independents vote in
their primary. The Republican Party being a tremendous minority at
that time, maybe twenty seventy five or percent to twenty
five percent registration. They said, well, they saw the growing

(01:03:26):
number of independence it's growing faster, and it's the most
dominant party. Basically, no party affiliation is the most dominant
registration of all people are involved in the political process,
and they said, well, we'll open ours up. So I
went to the Democrats. I'm the Democrat Secretary of State.
I said, guys, you better open your party. You better
open this process up. In the primary. Can you imagine

(01:03:48):
a person goes in and wants to vote for a
certain person who's a Democrat, and are going to say,
I'm sorry, you're an independent and the Democratic Party won't
let you vote that way, you have to wait to
the general election. Well, I want to vote. The Republicans,
let you vote in their primary. I said, doesn't make
sense to you. If you start voting in one, maybe
they'll stay over there. Well, guess what. The Democrats open

(01:04:09):
theirs up and the Republicans had theirs open. Guess what
just happened. The Republicans in Virginia closed their primary, the
same thing they fought for two decades ago. Does that
make sense?

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
I don't think it makes sense. You would ban something
before you even talk about trying it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
But oh, my goodness, ranked choice voting. If one for
rane choice voting, My dear friend Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins,
who I think are two of the best legislators we've
ever had in Washington wouldn't be there, because then you
can target and if if you have a strong willed
president and a party that believes in them, they can
target people. And if you can't target them, it makes

(01:04:45):
it very hard to get rid of somebody just because
they don't do as you say they should do, and
you're going to turn the party against them. Well, when
I can cross over and I've got Democrats, I've got Republicans,
i have an open primary process or a ranked choice voting,
I've got a chance to survive. Even if the dog,
if you're a governor doesn't like me, or a president
doesn't like me, I've got a chance to protect myself.

(01:05:08):
You are one thousand percent correct.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
God, just a couple of minutes left. Nick Saban wrote
the forward to your book. Yeah, did you have to
talk him into it? How'd you get him to do it?

Speaker 4 (01:05:20):
We've been lifelong friends. We've known each other since we
were kids, grew up three miles apart. We don't even
know his names Nick. We call him brother. I've I
was twenty seven, go far. I really thought his name
was Nick Saban Junior, so we didn't want to call
him junior. I guess his mom didn't, so she used
to tell his sister Dean, he go tell your little

(01:05:40):
brother do this, do tell your little brother that. Well,
by the time I'm eight, nine, ten years old and
he's four and five and six, we started knowing each other,
and his father always had us all playing ball and
doing this and that. It was brother this and brother that,
and stayed with me. But he's my dear, dear friend,
and he knows me as well, if not better than
most any So it was a natural for him. I

(01:06:02):
asked him, I say, would you mind doing something like?
He said, I'd be honored to do it? And he
did it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
Did you know he would be this good on television?
We all knew he was a great football coach, but
did you know he'd be this good as a personality
on ESPN?

Speaker 4 (01:06:14):
Well, I knew one thing. There will be nobody a
bitter prepared than him. He spends twenty five hours a week.
He spends twenty five hours a week to give you
one hour of instructions. That's it. He's teaching you, He's
teaching me and who he is. It's always been that way.
He has been the most methodical person I've ever met,
And I can break him down, make him laugh and

(01:06:36):
getting gone. But very few people have seen that side
of him. And I won't tell you all the things
I've done with a few little things in the book
that will tell you about that. But he's a special person.
But he's very driven, very determined. Him and I both
had fathers who said it's not good enough. You can
do better than that. He'll tell you the worst thing
in his life right now. He'll never I don't think
he ever owned a black car because every time a

(01:06:58):
black car came in to get washing wax, he alost
had to wax it twice because his dad didn't like
the streaks. So yeah, never, never good enough. So that's
that was our madu. Not good enough. The book better.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
The book is called Dead Center and Defense of Common Sense.
Senator Joe Manchin's book will be out coming up next
week event in Morgantown tonight. Hoppey will be moderating. Senator,
Thank you so much, appreciate you stopping, bye, good luck.

Speaker 4 (01:07:21):
Hey, hey guys, hey, Dave, goat go and go with
TJ and go golfing a little bit, and now take
off there at least nine holes.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Okay, all right, well, see if we can arrange that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
Thanks you guys, Thank you senator.

Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
Go mountaineers.

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probably could have done an hour with senator former Senator
Joe Manchin. Just let him tell some stories, let him
tell some Nick Saban stories. I saw those two together.
It's been years ago. It's actually Marion County Chamber of
Commerce event. Nick Saban spoke, Joe Manchin was there, and
it was entertaining. It was entertaining to say the least.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
Let's get them both on and do an hour with
both of them.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
Yeah, next, got nothing going on these days. He's retired.
We'll just get all the retired guys here. Why not
maybe Thursday at eleven o six when we usually have
a retired guy in the studio. All right, coming up,
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Speaker 6 (01:15:00):
Is my steam? Listen? I'm independent, left of center. I
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percent of things came up Charlie Kirk's mouth. Okay, I
thought he was repugnant, but at the end of the day,
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thing is, if you think that this political violence issue
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in this country of the last fifteen to twenty years.
The last time that I can remember this country was
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this answer of fighting and arguing and killing people that
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All Americans should be saddened by the violent death of
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Speaker 26 (01:18:07):
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Speaker 33 (01:22:33):
This? This last hour of this program should be saved for
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was the coach. I was there, so in of the
content the situation with Firewall and Joe Manchin, Stirewall gives
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Joe Mansion from Mary County and Starwall basic Ohio County,
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people involved and do your own thing about scipering out
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Manchi probably has got a much better attitude about spreading
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Bill always appreciated it. Have a good weekend. Let's go
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Guys, where is the hate in this state? It's in Wheeling,
and it's Howard Monroe. He refuses to speak.

Speaker 33 (01:24:26):
Of Kurley Kirk.

Speaker 34 (01:24:29):
And in fact calls him Carley Cook. But when it
comes to breakfast Buffys, he knows all.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
Jerry appreciate it. Have a good weekend, buddy. Eight hundred
and seven to sixty five talk. That is the phone
number to release your steam. We've got a slew of
text steams. Let's get through some of them.

Speaker 31 (01:24:47):
TJ.

Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
Texter says, Delegate Jim Butler is solely responsible for initiating
closing the GOP primary. He's the leader. Hey, Joe, Dems
did vote, and then our governor turned coat to a
MAGA Republican and our senator became an independent. Regular people
can't compete against entrenched, well funded politicians. Stop blaming them

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for not voting with the actual people they vote for.
Only represent themselves. Three oh four talk, three oh four.
Why do our representatives in Congress call up dedicated local
fire departments to put out all of the destructive political
bridge burning fires not only in DC but throughout our republic.

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Texter says, no steam, it's a somber week. My only
wish is we put as much effort into economic development
as vaccine exemptions at this point, I'm writing in Spaghetti Monster,
next gubatorial election three oh four Talk three oh four.
It usually won't work out for the state of West
Virginia if the governor isn't in agreement with Justice Capitol

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and the President. Very sad day in the Great States.
A call to ask for calmer debates and let us
villainizing is long overdue after the horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk,
but it should have started after the assassination of state
legislators in Minnesota. As usual, our president is as divisive

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as always, and yesterday Representative Moore already tried to target
trans people for this mass shooting before the shooter had
been captured. It is absolutely shameful and shows once again
Republican more a representative More is far more and far
too small and shallow to be in Congress three h
four Talk to three oh four. Why don't you pay

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twenty to thirty thousand dollars a year for residents of
West Virginia who have paid all their taxes on time
and not been sent to jail. Steam saying that the
evidence in the Epstein files is a quote democratic hoax
does not make it so or the truth those hundreds
of sixteen, fifteen and fourteen year old girls who were

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sexually trafficked, used and abused is not a hoax. Saying
so over and over again does not make it so.
Mister Steyerwalk, I like to worship my bong a few
times a day and become one with nature. Then tear
a bag of Cheetos. Yeah, okay, three oh four talk
three oh four. So hard to steam today. My heart

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is broke for the Kirk family and the nation. What
a loss? And yes, research and see who the haters
are spewing hate? What about liberals in Congress booing and
saying no, they wouldn't pray for Charlie Kirk prayers for
our country? Text simply says there are no leftist icons.

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We'll get some more.

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Text teams in let's go back to the phones. Steve
in Spencer, what's your steam?

Speaker 12 (01:30:18):
Steve, I'd just like to say I know you men
are Christians, believers. Don't let your heart be troubled. God
is a god of peace, but he's also a god
of justice. Christ came to deserve to redeem his people,

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to call out a particular people, and he will gather
his people his sheep, take them back to heaven. As
far as the unbelievers, the people who curse her Lord God,
the radical socialist atheists, the communists, a doll occurs, the

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sodom mics, the baby killers. Don't worry about them. They're
going to be where they want to be. They want
to be on the hill, and frankly, that's where they're
going to go, and they wouldn't be happy. They wouldn't
be happy around.

Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
Oh, Holy God, Steve got to move on. I got
to get some more calls in. Appreciate it very much.
Have a great weekend. Let's go to Chad in Morgantown.
What's your steam, Chad?

Speaker 15 (01:31:26):
Hey, so far this summer, I've noticed a lot of
this in Morgantown area.

Speaker 1 (01:31:30):
I'd like other people are texting calling to.

Speaker 26 (01:31:32):
Corroborate this, but a lot of people are running red lights.

Speaker 34 (01:31:35):
And I mean I do love.

Speaker 26 (01:31:37):
Running a yellow light.

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
I enjoy it thoroughly, but there's a lot of people
that are that are blasting through at fifty miles an hour,
especially next to the interchanges.

Speaker 34 (01:31:45):
Of sixty eight and seventy nine.

Speaker 27 (01:31:47):
It just seems endemic this summer.

Speaker 1 (01:31:50):
Thank you, you are welcome, Chad. Let's get some text
teams in TJ.

Speaker 3 (01:31:54):
The unvaccinated kids don't have chronic issues because they dined.
The response to the Kirk shooting in the big picture
is more troubling than the actual shooting. The actual shooting
was perpetrated by one lone evil, sick person. The response
has shown the majority of the left online celebrating a murder. Meanwhile,
a significant portion of the right has already jumped into

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insane conspiracy theories. The left is evil, the right is stupid.
Our country is lost. Texter says, beat Pitt, have a
great weekend. The Chad guy is right. Lots of red
lights running this summer. TJ. What time is the West
Virginia football game tomorrow? Do an editor's note, Dave, I
don't have it off the top of my head.

Speaker 1 (01:32:35):
Sorry, believe it's six o'clock.

Speaker 3 (01:32:38):
Sounds right. That was a great sermon from Dale, Lee,
says the Texter. Three oh four talk three oh four
days like this make me thankful. The view is on
hiatus three point thirty. Kickoff tomorrow. By the way, thank you, sir.
Texter says glad a couple of spiritual boomers are here
to navigate us through this very online gen z meme

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killer story three or four time three or four. I
learned this right. I hate when it does that. I
learned this from the right. The guy has a mental illness,
thoughts and prayers. Why did God save Trump and not Kirk.

Speaker 1 (01:33:15):
Let's go to Stan and Wheeling. What's your steam?

Speaker 12 (01:33:17):
Stan?

Speaker 27 (01:33:19):
Yes, my steam is. I don't feel bad for the
people of the High Valley have position to hired Monroe.
I feel bad for his wife or changing depends after
a three day binges at the same.

Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
All right, Stan, appreciate the phone call. Have a good weekend, Buddy.
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Gonna go play eighteen or maybe thirty six this weekend.
Who knows?

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Thirty six, maybe thirty six.

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