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Speaker 1 (01:06):
Welcome inside the Incoba Insurance studios. So you're having a
great start to your Thursday. Phone number is eight hundred
seven sixty five Talk eight hundred seven sixty five eight
two five five. The text line is three oh four
Talk three oh four. I got a jam first hour.
Second hour, we'll have some time for your comments, thoughts
and concerns. Speaking of the second hour, hopey coach, Well,

(01:30):
we'll stop by the studios today a little bit later
on in the second hour, Jared Dean with the Greater
Williamson Community Development Corporation. We'll talk Tim about the possibility
of data centers going in in Mingo County. Also coming
up later this morning, Teresa tour Sevos. She's the attorney
representing the women suing the state police over that hidden

(01:52):
cam scandal. We'll get into that, and a crazy story
out of southern Berkeley County as well. All of that. Say,
good morning, TJ. Meadows is the Charleston and Cova Insurance Studios. Morning, TJ.

Speaker 5 (02:03):
To data or not to data? That is the question, sir,
I don't know. I mean, if you don't, what are
you gonna do? Do you have other economic development opportunities
out there that you can afford to pass on data centers.
We'll get into that with Jared. But I'm just saying, well, right.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
We'll get into it with Jared. There are any project,
you're going to have supporters, You're going to have opposition
to anything you propose, So.

Speaker 5 (02:27):
And all questions are fair.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Sure, Absolutely, That's why the process is in place, or
at least that's why it's supposed to be in place. Yeah,
we'll get into that coming up second hour. Also, Evan
Brown scheduled to join us with the latest on that
shooting in Dallas at the Ice Detention Facility. Jake Link
running the video stream at the Metro News TV app,
and Ethan Collins is our audio producer today. Food insecurity,

(02:50):
It's always been a challenge here in West Virginia. One
of the one in five children do not always know
where the next meal is going to come from. Now,
the USDA has announced it is canceling national survey that
food banks, including the Mountaineer Food Bank, the largest in
our state ever, lied on for decades to measure need
and guide their work. Critics call the reports costly, and
political supporters say they're essential to fighting hunger. Two way

(03:13):
in Please welcome to the program. The West Virginia Commissioner
of Agriculture, Kent Lienhardt, joins us on Metro News talk line. Kent,
good morning, Thanks for your time.

Speaker 6 (03:24):
Oh I'm glad to be here, David, thanks for having
me on. It's an important issue that the folks really
need to understand and know what's going on. Like you mentioned,
one in five children in the state of West Virginia
are food insecure.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Well, Kent, the USDA called the survey redundant, costly, and politicize.
What's your assessment of this survey?

Speaker 6 (03:46):
Well, let's I get concerned anytime we cut back on
surveys and statistics because those things are used. That information
is how federal dollars are allocated to the states, and
we know West Virginia's budget relies a lot on federal dollars.
So yes, I'm very much concerned about that cut. Leading

(04:08):
in the row Street Journal it said that that survey
only touched forty thousand people nationally, and I wonder was
that survey being done advocately to really give a true
picture when we're also saying there's thirty three million adults

(04:30):
in the country that are food insecure and one hundred
and seventeen thousand right here in our own state. So
a forty thousand sample doesn't seem to be a big
enough sample. But should we have canceled it? I don't
think so, because we need that information. But should it
have been maybe revamped? Probably? So it was on Saturday

(04:53):
when they had made this announcement, and it was a
total surprise to the West Virginia Department of Agriculture.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
Can's what happens minus this data? How will that affect
what your organization does other organizations in the state. What
will you not be able to do minus this data.

Speaker 6 (05:12):
I think what we're going to end up doing. We're
going to continue doing what we do best and try
to resource and use our text credit advantages that we
have here in West Virginia to promote for donations. And
I guess I'm doing that now to the two fame blinks,
you know, Feeding Facing Hunger and Huntington and Mountain Near

(05:35):
Food Bank here in in the inhing Gasway, West Virginia
that services most of the state. But we don't want
to excade Facing Hunger because they do great work in
the counties that they serve, and they also go into
Kentucky as well. So we're going to continue to promote

(05:56):
being generous to those food banks, making sure they have
all they need. We had a conference recently, just this week,
a small one talking to our Food is Medicine. One
of our Food is Medicine groups. There's about nine of
them in the state, and we're getting more and more
partnerships for them. The those are growing and they're using

(06:17):
food as medicine we call it pharmacy faar nacy, and
they're getting during ten or fifteen week programs food boxes
for the patients, and it's actually like a prescription food box,
but we know that a lot of that food is
going to the rest of the family and that family
may be food insecure at the same time. So there's

(06:39):
a lot of things going out there that we're reaching
out to make sure that the population of West Virginia
is adequately fed and nourished. We're going to continue doing
those programs. So while this is going to hurt possibly
the federal dollars coming into the state, we want to
make sure that we as a state or taken care

(07:01):
of our own.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
State Agriculture Commissioner Kent Lee Andhrt joining us here on
Metro News talk line. From a practical standpoint, how does
Mountaineer Food Bank, for instance, Kent apply the information from
this annual survey to their operation.

Speaker 6 (07:20):
Well, they use the information in their campaigns for fundraising obviously,
so that they have the information that they can tell
potential donors. Because people want to know when they donate
dollars or food, they want to know what they're donating
for and the purpose. So that's a very important component

(07:42):
in information. So they need that information when they do
their fundraisers, and they talk to their donors folks that
are considering farmers that have an excess that want to
give a tax credit. They use that They need to
be able to get that information so they not only
feel good about what they're doing, but they're encouraged to

(08:03):
do it. A few years back, if you remember, I
wrote a knaped that asked the farmers in the state,
or that just a home gardener to plant an extra row.
This is what we need to use to feed our family.
But let's go ahead put an extra row in and
take that extra row while we're out in the garden
and donate that to either a local food pantry or

(08:25):
the food banks. They also use that information when they're
allocating the foods that they get in at the bank
as to where areas of the state the pantries may need.
We know that we have forty four of our fifty
five counties all have some level of a food desert,

(08:46):
meaning there's not a grocery store nearby, or even in
some counties don't even have a grocery store at all anymore.
So they need to know where that need is so
they can allocate their resources.

Speaker 5 (09:00):
Administration, they have criticized government data in the past, specifically
around the job market data. They've said it's been used
as a political weapon. Is there any evidence or have
you seen any examples that this USDA Hunger Report was
being used in the same manner.

Speaker 6 (09:19):
I haven't seen any examples of that here in the
state of West Virginia. But again, West Virginia relies on
federal dollars, so we may not see it. I do
as I've delved into this since this issue arose on Saturday,
I do get concerned when I look at that there

(09:40):
was only a forty thousand sample nationwide, So that brings
to question should we have been actually improving this process
all along? Because I understand it started back in the
mid nineties, mid to early nineties when they started doing
this survey, and as we all know, times changed. Things change.

(10:01):
You know, we have a rising food prices, so that
changes the outlook on what people can afford and how
much food. We have rising labor costs on our farms,
and that's affecting our farmers. We've seen the importation of
concentrates that have affected our apple production in the state
of West Virginia, not necessarily the production, but also what

(10:22):
our farmer gets when it sells it, so I get
very nervous. I was at a National Association State Department
of Agriculture meeting last week and I met with the
administrator of the National ac Statistics Service because I expressed
to him the concern I had with mass, which is
a different armor of USDA than this survey came out

(10:42):
came out about the cutbacks, and I was telling them
that we here in West Virginia rely on the data.
They're not going to publish statistics as often as they
were to try to save some funding, and I said,
that's going to hurt West Virginia. I need to be
able to un to work with you to get that data.

(11:03):
So we're looking at most people know we publish a
market bulletin, and I'm looking to hopefully get enough funding
to add a couple pages to our market bulletin and
get the data from them and put it in that
market bulletin so our farmers know what the markets are
so they can plan what they want to plant and
what they want to grow or how many head of

(11:23):
cattle they want to raise. So this data is very
important to West Virginia.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
State Agriculture Commissioner Kent Lee and Hart joining us here
on Metro News talk line Ken if it could switch
gears for just a moment here, it's raining in West Chance,
it's raining here in Morgantown today. How are farmers holding up?
Because we have not had a lot of rain over
the last month or so.

Speaker 6 (11:46):
I know it's been one of the AC commissioners were fears.
You know, we had an almost historic drought last year
where people went into D three levels. You know, there's
D zero through d D four levels of drought and
four being the worst, and we went into D three
for eight and in D four for a number of

(12:08):
weeks last year. We haven't hit that extremity of drought,
and I was grateful for the legislature and the USDA
Farm Service Agency for working with the Department of Agriculture
and getting funding out and then what the legislature gave
us last year for the pasture renovation because pastures were

(12:29):
damning from the dat So some of those lessons learned
last year, we're gearing up to have those discussions. The
data of the new drought monitor shows the drought worsening,
but the drought monitor data starts on information up till Tuesday,
September twenty third, and of course we've had a lot

(12:49):
of rain in different parts of the state since Tuesdays,
so that's not reflected in the new drought monitor now.
So Deputy Commissioner is going to be on a drought
call while I'm doing something else needed today to start
laying the groundwork if there's funding coming from the federal side,

(13:11):
and then what the state needs to do to supplement it.
But again, I'm hoping that the rains we're getting now
is going to lessen the severity of the drought. We
started this spring with a very heavy, wet spring, which
helped we charge a little bit from last year, but
we were never completely out of last year's drought.

Speaker 5 (13:29):
I mean practically. The rains we're getting now, how quickly
can that turn things around? Do you think on the ground,
three or four days can that really make a meaningful difference.

Speaker 6 (13:39):
Well, I'll let you know when I have to cut
my lawn again. And I wasn't going to have to
cut my yard again. But I'm joking, but it's not
a joke. It can be a matter of a few
days to weeks, depending upon temperatures, you know, warm weather,
helps grass grow, That helps our farmers, and so yes,

(14:02):
we can come out of it. It's not going to
be as good as if we had the rain. You know,
every farmer wishes for an engine rain every week. Obviously
we didn't get that, and so some of the slow
steady rain that we've had has been very good. But
the heavy downpours runs off very quickly and it doesn't

(14:25):
do as much good as a slow, steady, predictable rain
like an irrigation system does. So yeah, we're going to
be We're gonna be watching this very closely, and we're
going to make sure working with our federal partners because
our support from the state last year was based on

(14:49):
the level of support based on the drought monitor and
what the Farm Service Agency was able to provide, and
then we use that as the measure for our state
funded to help the farmers. So yes, it's bad, and
it's not as bad as last year. I'm hoping that
the range this time give us some improvement because nobody

(15:11):
wants to go through this.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
State Agricultuurre Commissioner Kent Lee and Hart Kent appreciate the time,
Thank you for the conversation.

Speaker 6 (15:16):
As always, Oh my pleasure call any common.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Absolutely coming up Fox News Radios Evan Brown, We'll check in.
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Yesterday morning, one person was killed to critically injured when
a gunman opened fire on an ICE detention facility in Dallas.
Fox's Evan Brown joins us with the latest. Evan, good morning.
What is the investigation it turned up so far?

Speaker 8 (17:06):
Not as much as I think people would have hoped.
By this point, we certainly don't know much more than
what we knew last night, and that is a twenty
nine year old man opened fire sitting at the rooftop
near the Dallas Ice Field office. He killed one person,
a detainee, injured two other people who are I believe detainees,

(17:26):
then took his own life. Police recovered a clip of ammunition.
On one of the bullet casings was the words anti ICE,
and that is certainly leading people to believe that perhaps
his target was Ice, either the agency of the facility,
and perhaps maybe he didn't mean to strike the detainees,
but apparently maybe didn't couldn't differentiate from the distance, or

(17:52):
you know, just he started randomly firing in the direction
of the building, hitting whatever he hit. Police did search
a home connected to him. Maybe a family home. They
did recover some things from the home. They were seen
carrying out some boxes. Perhaps they will share with us
what they've learned.

Speaker 6 (18:09):
So far, we.

Speaker 8 (18:09):
Haven't heard of anything along the lines of a manifesto
or a letter that would have detailed what his motivation
was specifically, or why he picked the specific target or
chose to act at a certain time. We just don't
have that information. If police have determined that they might
share with us some of that information, especially if they

(18:31):
believe the case to be closed, if they feel that
there's nothing else going on regarding this, if they feel
that he has accomplices or some kind of co conspirators,
or even just some people who may have had some
foreknowledge of what he was planning to do, the investigation
would continue and we would probably learn not as much.
I don't think they'd be as forthcoming in that case.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
Eben. Individual has been identified. Can you give us that name?
And what, if any details do we know about this
individual personally?

Speaker 8 (18:58):
At this point, we know very little about him. His
name is Joshua. We think the last name is pronounced John.
It is spelt ja h N. We know very little
about him. He doesn't seem to have a criminal record
or a mental health record, But that's pretty much the

(19:18):
extent of what we have confirmed at this point. You know,
there will obviously be part of the investigation. We'll be
looking into things like his online history and any interpersonal
relationships he may have had, and maybe to try to
put together some kind of psychological profile on him to
make it more clear as to why he was motivated

(19:39):
to do what he did.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Fox News Radio is Evan Brown joining us Eben. Evidence
has never stopped anybody from speculating. What's the reaction to
the shooting been around the country, particularly with our elected leaders.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (19:53):
So a lot of people, especially in the Trump administration
or people who are not in the administration but the
allied with them, have said this is the result of
the continual rhetoric from the other side with regard to
hatred and disdain for law enforcement, specifically the work of
US Immigration and Customs enforcement in the Trump administration, and

(20:17):
they say this the rhetoric needs to stop, that putting
the lives of police officers in danger is completely unacceptable,
and in this case, put the lives of the detainees
in jeopardy. And one is dead, two other are injured.
And fairly badly. And even though they are immigration detainees.
Maybe they could have been slated for deportation, maybe they

(20:39):
were wanted for other crimes, but it is not right
to have them killed in this fashion. That's not how
things are supposed to work. And that's the fault of
this man who fired his gun, who's now dead himself,
by the way, case we haven't made that clear. He
took his own life. And that's where we're at.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Fox News Radio. Is Evan Brown with the latest on
that ice for shooting at the ice facility in Dallas. Evan,
thank you very much, appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
You're welcome.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Take care absolutely. Coming up, We will get to the
text line a little bit later. Three four Talk, three
oh four, eight hundred and seven to six five talks the
phone number. Coming up. Other side of the news break,
Teresa Torsseeva is going to join us. She's an attorney
representing the women suing the state police after a hidden
camera was discovered inside the State Police academy locker room.
We will talk to her. There was a ruling in

(21:29):
that case in Kanaw County this week. A little bit
later on Marshakavolk from the Eastern Panhandle will join us
it's talk line on Metro News for forty years, the
voice of West Virginia. It's ten thirty times to get
a news update. Let's check in on the Metro News
radio network. Find out what's happening across the great state
of West Virginia.

Speaker 9 (21:47):
West Virginia Metro News. I'm Chris Lawrence in Berkeley County.
Authorities now saved. The discovery of three dead bodies in
a vehicle was a result of a murder suicide. All
three men in the vehicle found near Bunker Hill had
been shot, the sheriff on Wednesday, releasing their names. Thirty
year old Dalton Weaver, fifty two year old Heavy Amps,
and twenty seven year old Daria Clevenger. All were from Winchester, Virginia.

(22:09):
Deputy to say one of them had a self inflicted
gunshot wound, but did not say which. The investigation continues.
Calhoun County Commissioner Jacob mccumbers waived his preliminary hearing in
a county magistry court on Wednesday. The thirty nine year
old from Arnoldsberg's facing charges of sexually abusing a juvenile
dating back to when the victim was under the age
of ten. He's facing fifty counts in the case. Mcumbers

(22:30):
is free on bond, but also on home confinement. Another
hearing on the matter is set for October twentieth, as
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Speaker 9 (24:16):
Farmers in West Virginia may be eligible for available grant
funding to help defray the costs associated with dealing with
this summer's drought. The West Virginia Conservation Agency on Wednesday
announce that funding is now available through your local conservation districts.
The cost share reimbursements would help to recover out of
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feeding areas, cover crops, and irrigation water supplies, to name
a few. Farmers can start at their local conservation office.
From the Metro News anchored ask Im Chris Lawrence, Metro.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
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Marcia Kavallack will join us coming up a couple of
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(26:01):
of Berkeley County. We'll get the latest with Marsha Hoppey
coming up in the second hour, trying to connect with
Teresa Taurus Sevas. She said she was going to be
mobile today TJ so might be having some connection issues
trying to get her on the line. That happens in
West Virginia.

Speaker 5 (26:18):
It can be a challenge depending on where you're driving.
Where you're going, might that dead spot at least that's
what I call them, by the.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Way, mister Meadows, Yes, sir, I got to tell you
about a toxic relationship that I'm in since we have
a moment here to kill. Oh geez, Yes, it's very serious.
It's it's with the Cincinnati Reds, by the way, which
I know many I know many out there in the
audience know exactly what I'm talking about, this toxic relationship
we have because TJ. I watched the entire game last night,

(26:48):
stayed up past my bedtime, watch them go to extra
innings and bumble another game away against one of the
worst teams in baseball, and guess what. Guess what I'll
do later this afternoon.

Speaker 5 (27:00):
You're not going to do it again?

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Well, of course I'm going to do it again. Because
the Mets lost last night, the Divingbacks lost, so they're
still in the wildcard hunt. And here we are, and
you know what, and I still have this irrational hope
they'll actually make the playoffs this year.

Speaker 5 (27:18):
So I think I found this secret to happiness when
it comes to the Reds. And I was raised a
Reds fan, just like you were. With my three kids,
I don't have time to watch a game anymore, hm,
So I just pop on after the game and look
at the score on the internet. And it's much less
emotional that way, and you don't get the ups and downs.
You don't get oh, they did it to me again.

(27:40):
It becomes more black and white, if that makes sense.
So I care here. Maybe I'm not as invested. Is
that the way to say it. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
And last night was the worst. Right, you're you're down.
Then Stevenson almost hits a home run to tie it
off skeins, then he Homer's later to tie the game,
send it to extra innings, You get runners on you
think they're going to score. No, no, you lose to
the And that's the thing, man, The Pirates, TJ. The Pirates.
It's not like you're playing the Yankees or you know.

Speaker 5 (28:09):
It's the Pirates. The Pirates one.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Of the worst teams in baseball.

Speaker 5 (28:13):
But have the Rents figured that out? I mean, look,
they don't have the money like the Yanks or these
other teams, and I don't know if they play moneyball
or whatever that is. Maybe they do, but have they
figured it out that suckers like us will keep coming
back and they don't have to necessarily spend the money.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Maybe because there was like thirty almost thirty one thousand
of the game last night.

Speaker 5 (28:34):
So we do it to ourselves? Why do we do
it to ourselves?

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Are we addicted? Yes, yes, I think we are. And
there's guys, I know Coop's down there in the building
right now, going amen, brother, he knew it was coming
last night.

Speaker 5 (28:50):
Poor Jenkins is on vacation, I think this week. I'm
sure he was watching that and probably just it's like
on my vacation. Guys, really, you got to do it
to me while I'm on vacation.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
But I'll watch, I'll watch, you know. And then they
got to go play the Brewers and they can't win
in Milwaukee either. So I don't know why. I don't
know why I'm torturing myself ToJ but here we are.

Speaker 5 (29:09):
Here we are.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
I'll do it again today twelve forty I think first pitch.
If I don't know the weather in Cincinnati today, that's
not on my list of things.

Speaker 5 (29:17):
To check, but I would imagine it's just as beautiful
as it is here. I'll check for you real quick bit.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Maybe the rain out would be an improvement. You couldn't
leave thirteen runners on base if they get rained out,
all right? Three or four talk three or four is
the text line. There we go. I've just borne my
soul about my toxic relationship.

Speaker 12 (29:32):
With the risk.

Speaker 5 (29:33):
Sixty nine and cloudy right now, mister Wilson, fifty chance
of rain at eleven. However, for the rest of the day,
looks like clouds, maybe even a little sunshine by late
this evening in the greater Cincinnata area.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
I text some of the friend last night. I feel
like those fans off of a Major league the ones
that sat out in the outfield. Randy Quaid played the
carriage visually two. Yeah, it's too high. They'll blow it
in the playoffs. I diagree more than any women suing
the WESTERNI of State Police after hidden camera was discovered
inside the locker room at the State Police Academy. In

(30:08):
spring twenty twenty three, then Governor Justice confirmed the camera
had been placed in the locker room. Three troopers found
a thumb drive with the videos from the camera and
destroyed the evidence. This week, Canawha County Judge Kenneth Ballard
ruled in favor of the women, ruling the payout can
reach as high as a million dollars per occurrence under
the state's insurance policy. Got that joining us is the

(30:30):
attorney representing the women in their lawsuit. Teresa tour Seva, Teresa,
good morning, thanks for joining us.

Speaker 12 (30:36):
Good morning, It's good to be with you from Wheeling.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
I appreciate you hopping on. So, Teresa, this is significant
for the women in this case. But what does this
mean for the clients moving forward? The ruling in Kanawak
County this week, it.

Speaker 12 (30:49):
Is significant moving forward. What it means is is that
every factual scenario is treated as the invasion of privacy
as the assault that it is. So it's pretty important.
It was one of the things, Dave that I won't
say it was holding up the litigation, but it was
such a major risk between the parties on this issue

(31:11):
of does it is this all of these occurrences. Do
they constitute this one big mass event where there's only
one insurance policy coverage one time? Or is it each
person affected is a separate event, a separate occurrence, and
that's how the court rules, which really is the common sense?

Speaker 6 (31:31):
Really?

Speaker 5 (31:32):
Was it kind of the old college try Teresa on
the counterparty side to say, hey, we'll try to get
this through and knowing that they really would not be successful.

Speaker 12 (31:43):
I mean, what do you do? And it's so bad,
this is so bad. This is as bad as the
Fred Zane scandal from the late nineties. I think it was.

Speaker 6 (31:53):
You know, this is.

Speaker 12 (31:54):
You have destruction of his evidence admitted by the agency
charged with preserving evidence for this state of West Virginia.
So yeah, I think it was. I really do think
that it was. This was not a stretch in terms of,
you know, how this should play out. So for us,

(32:15):
we're just we're going to move forward and have the
individual trials have the continued accountability of what actually happened,
you know, go through the court system.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Three. So there's there are individual cases and a class
action lawsuit. Can you kind of explain the legal differences? Well,
I mean I know that I'm just an individual and
class action. But there are there individual suits and class
action suit.

Speaker 12 (32:37):
Correct, Yes, there are there. That's exactly right, and both
are really important. There are at least eighty I know
I can speak personally from our own clients, from my group,
a number more individually filed clients, and we think there
are hundreds affected, no question. But the class actions certainly

(32:58):
cover anybody who doesn't necessarily follow an individual lawsuits that
can be their rights can be heard through that action.
Then all of that will play out before Judge Bollard
and Kanah counting.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
As you continue to monitor these cases and monitor this issue,
and you've been there from the start, as you talk
with more people, just as you reflect and see what
has happened, there's been leadership changes. Did we learn our
lesson here? Do we have a better culture now? Because
I don't know that we ever fully understand the full
extent of just what went on. You talk about evidence destruction,

(33:33):
But if we learned our lesson, if we turned the page,
or we own a better path.

Speaker 12 (33:37):
So you know, first of all, that's a great question,
and I think that's one we all need to be
examining as citizens. And I can tell you that I
come at this from a bias of the trial lawyer
who represents the women, and as you indicated, have done
at this from the start. I'm filled with outrage. I'm
filled with all of those things from knowing what happened.

(34:00):
And I do think that simple exposure creates the culture change,
because you don't allow these things to continue. So it
has to have gotten somewhat better just by the fact
that this has been exposed, that these brave women have
come forward to hold accountable those who need held accountable.

(34:21):
Is the change enough?

Speaker 8 (34:23):
You know?

Speaker 12 (34:24):
You know, I don't think that you can overstate the
chilling effect on female law enforcement. So had this happen,
and so the change, the reform, the deep internal investigation
that they's then made public in a way that's appropriate
for everybody and for everybody's rights. But all of that

(34:47):
needs to happen that matches the level of harm them.
And I can tell you, you know, I've been practicing law
for thirty years, and I can count on one hand
the number of times there has been a instruction of
evidence at this level admitted going in. It's just a
stunning proposition. And that tells you a couple of things.

(35:10):
One how about it must be.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
But two more.

Speaker 12 (35:14):
Importantly, they never know the full extent of the videotaping
that occurred at the West Virginia State Police Academy.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Talking to Wheeling attorney Teresa to our save us. He's
representing some of the plaintiffs in that lawsuit against the
Westvinia State Police after hidden camera was discovered in the
State Place academy locker room. Teresa, have these women stayed
in law enforcement? How their lives been impacted by this
entire ordeal?

Speaker 12 (35:40):
Oh, another great question, Thank you for that. So this
really is what it's all about. These these women law
enforcement officers who came through the academy to become certified
at the only place in the state of West Virginia
where you can become the certified law enforcement officer, at
least until late where there's some movement to change that.
These these women have their identities are preserved by court order.

Speaker 13 (36:05):
And so.

Speaker 12 (36:07):
In terms of moving forward, yes, they're moving for they're
in their jobs. They're on the streets, they're on patrol,
they're they're investigating crime, they're they're living up to their
duty as officers, and they're in they're in federal state
and local police agencies all over the state of West Virginia,
and some are even in agencies outside the state of
West Virginia. But they, you know, I think this is

(36:30):
something that each of them will carry with them for
the rest of their lives.

Speaker 5 (36:34):
I would like to go back quickly because it's been
a while since I read anything about this. Just to
be honest, I think it's been a while since I
thought about it. Shame on me. I should be more
in tune with this case. But for those who may
be in the same boat I am. Has there been
any reckoning on who put the camera there, how it
was discovered, just some of these more fundamental questions that
people might be asking, if they've either forgotten them or

(36:57):
never knew them in the first place.

Speaker 12 (37:00):
Yes, and those so amazingly there have been, at least
to my knowledge, no criminal charges of any of this.
And what I can tell you is that I think
a lot remains to be revealed and remains to be
seen and all of that. So civil litigation is the
super slow train great and news media and public interests

(37:24):
and their right to know in real time is a
much faster sort of process. In civil litigation, I can
tell you. It is all going to be revealed and
there will be this accountability and as there been this
full accountability. Absolutely not not even close. And that's not
a comment on the civil litigation as much as not

(37:45):
to comment on. You can look at where we've come
from and and see that it appears the only thing
alive fighting this issue is the civil litigation, the civil litigators.
So the brave women who brought these lawsuits.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Teresa, so our say, a Wheeling attorney representing some of
the plaintiffs in the lawsuit against westterrgnin State police over
that hidden camera at the police academy. Teresa, good to
talk to you again. Thank you for joining us in
best of luck.

Speaker 12 (38:14):
Thank you so much. We appreciate the interest in this story.
It's a huge, important public interest story that we all,
I think need to stay tuned into.

Speaker 14 (38:22):
Thank you, Yeah, thank you.

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Three men found dad in a pickup truck in southern
Berkeley County back on Tuesday. WAPM News director host of
panhandle If, Marcia Kavalak has been following this story issue
joins us on Metro News talk line. Marcia, Good morning.

Speaker 17 (40:05):
What's the latest, l Good morning, Fellows. So, the Berkeley
County Sheriff's Office, this incident is still under investigation. There
is no threat to the public. That the boiled down
is that they were called to the scene of suspicious
circumstances found three men dead inside a red pickup truck
in South Berkeley County off Quarry Road, and their initial

(40:28):
investigation indicates that the three gentlemen got into an altercation
of inside the vehicle and there was a shooting and
all three sustained those fatal gunshot wounds. They did say
one of the victims, or one of the individuals who
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(40:49):
they did not declare which of those three men that
was killed in that incident. Thirty year old Dalton Weaver,
fifty two year old Heavy Amps, and twenty seven year
old day Clevenger. Those gentlemen all from Winchester, Virginia.

Speaker 5 (41:03):
I'm assuming authorities are waiting on toxicology marsha or some
kind of testing that might indicate if drugs are alcohol.

Speaker 17 (41:11):
I imagine they're looking for that to see that gunshot residue,
bullet trajectory, all of those, you know, the chemicals that
could have played a played a part in this, but
it's just a tragedy all the way around.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Marcia. Any indication how long those three were in the
truck deceased before somebody found them. Was this an isolated
place where the truck was found?

Speaker 17 (41:35):
And you know, I don't. I don't think it was
as isolated that folks, because people on the threads were
saying that they'd driven by the truck, so I think
someone just eventually. I'm not sure how long they were
in the in the vehicle, and the police didn't say
whether or not they'd been in for overnight or just

(41:56):
that day. They were found around noon on Tuesday, So
I don't know if we'll know much of the details
of that, because obviously, in a situation like that where
they say there's no outside threat to the public, there
is probably not going to be any kind of criminal case,
et cetera, unless it's linked back to some sort of

(42:17):
drug deal or something.

Speaker 5 (42:19):
I'm looking at the names of the victims here, Marsha
in the ages as well, there's a bit of a
gap there. I don't know if that tells us anything
or authorities have said anything about those details. But I'm
assuming no family relations here, just three guys in the truck.
As any of the details come out about.

Speaker 17 (42:37):
That, it doesn't sound as though they were related. Okay,
But they were known to people in the South Berkley
County because as the information came out and the identities
were released, there were people saying, oh, I've known this,
you know, one of the victims for years. Winchester is
not that far from South Berkley.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Now Winchester from that point or what fifteen twenty minutes,
aren't you right? Crazy story, crazy story out of Berkeley County.
Marcia Kvollic keep us posted. Thanks for the work so far.
Good job, of course. Marcia Kavallic, news director and a
host of Penhead Alive on w EPM over in Martinsburg.

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the Cubs, they sucker us in again by losing to
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At least they're consistent.

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You know what makes it worse what my wife, she's
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Speaker 5 (45:32):
Oh really?

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Oh yeah, and you know, you know, they haven't done
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(45:55):
appreciate it all right, Coming up, Poppy Kirsch was going
to show in a second hour of Metro News talk Line,
we tease this a little bit yesterday's commentary over at
wv metronews dot com. Your homework assignment here before the
top of the hour. Go check it out. As he
compares and contrasts statements made during the Charlie Kirk Services

(46:16):
back on Sunday. We'll get into that discussion and other topics.
Of course, also want to get his thoughts on the
Mountaineers heading into this weekend's game against Utah. So Hoppy
will join us, and later TJ we'll talk data centers
in Mingo County. What did you say to data center
or not to data center?

Speaker 5 (46:33):
Data or not to data.

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(46:58):
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(47:52):
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Speaker 5 (47:59):
Good morning. Because I'm a nerd and I like numbers.
I've been running calculations through a couple online calculators. I
found forty four thousand surveys that ought to do the trick,
that ought to be a good result when it comes
to that hunger survey. Totally get what Kent is saying,
but the data would seem to suggest that forty four thousand,
even though we have one hundred and thirty nine million

(48:20):
households in this country, wouldn't yield results that have a
very low margin of error. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
I've always been I was net Look, I'm not a
numbers guy. You know, math is hard. That's why I
chose your journalists of engineering. But that's always fascinating to
me how you pick you're able to use those kind
of statistics and then extrapolate and come up with pretty
accurate results.

Speaker 5 (48:41):
Yeah. Look, I think it's a fair question, a fair
characterization for Kent to point out. I also think it's
fair to say that, look, don't throw the baby out
with the bathwater, which was his larger point. So we'll
see what happens.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Coming up later this hour, We're going to talk to
Jared Dean. A couple of day data centers are proposed
for Mingo County. There's been some pushback, but could there
be some major positive impacts for Mingo County. We'll get
into that coming up bottom of the hour. Over at
wv metro News dot com, Hoppy Kerchibll has a commentary

(49:14):
this morning, a contrast of messages at Charlie Kirk's funeral.
Hoppy joins us in the COVA Insurance studios this morning.
Good morning, hop coome on you guys. So what's the
compare and contrast?

Speaker 20 (49:27):
Sure, Well, that was a long funeral, A lot of
people spoke, they said appropriate things and remembrance of Charlie Kirk.
Uh But there was a moment when his widow, Erica Kirk,
says the following, that man, that young man, I forgive him.
I forgive him because it was what Christ did and

(49:51):
is what Charlie would do.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
The answer to hate is not hate.

Speaker 20 (49:54):
The answer we know from the Gospel is love and
always love, love for our enemies, and love for those
persecute us.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
If ever, there.

Speaker 20 (50:02):
Was a summation in two sentences of what it means
to be a Christian. There it is at this seminal
moment in this funeral. And look, I'm not the most
religious person, and I'm certainly not a religious scholar, but
you don't have to be to understand and appreciate the
good news that's in the New Testament and what Jesus

(50:23):
instructs people to do and what he said on the
cross in his dying words. And then you can trast
that with what Donald Trump said where he said, quote
I hate my opponent and I don't want the best
for them. I'm sorry, Erica, But now Erica can talk
to me in the whole group, and maybe we can
they can convince me that's not right. But I can't

(50:43):
stand my opponent. Now, if you want to, a guy
laughs from the crowd. So if you want to put
a positive spin on that, I guess because I consulted
a deeply religious person about this and they said, well,
at least he's not a hypocrite. At least he's at
least he's not saying you know, he's not being a
hypocrite about it. He's being candid about it. And I
suppose you could give him points for that. But it

(51:04):
was a message from him that was so counter to
what was the meaningful message from Erica Kirk.

Speaker 5 (51:14):
How may does Trump invite discernment from Americans with those comments?
I think about by your fruits, you'll know them. So
his stating that, does he invite that judgment on himself
from Americans who would question his intentions and hiss, let's
just say it his Christian values, Well one would think that.

Speaker 20 (51:34):
Yet he has tremendous support from many on the Christian right.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
Correct, Yeah, I mean. And so I've thought about this for.

Speaker 20 (51:42):
A long time and research it and talk to people
and written about it, And I say, why is that?
If you are and again I am not a devout Christian.
But if you are, how do you how do you
justify your support of Donald Trump, who is a deeply
flawed human being. Now we're all flawed, but deeply flawed

(52:02):
and evidently not a very religious person. And the answer is, well,
we are all flawed A and B. He fights for us.
He may not believe all the things we believe, but
he is a leader in the fight for us against
what others may want to do to us. So the
religious right justifies the support of Donald Trump by making

(52:24):
that argument, we need a fighter.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
And maybe they refer back to.

Speaker 20 (52:29):
You know, ancient times and kings of Israel who were
themselves flawed but led the fight for Christians.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
Hop he is still my only pushback and that was
at least he's not a hypocrite. This is just Trump want.
He thinks he's a stand up comedian, so if he
can get a laugh line, he'll get a laugh line.
But at least he's not up there pretending to be
something he's not and just frankly says I hate my opponents,
that I want to beat him.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
Yeah, and that is I think that's a valid point.

Speaker 20 (52:59):
Yeah, Okay, that he's not saying he's not going on
and proselytizing about his own faith.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
Okay, so that's it, that's it. That is a legitimate
point to make. But still.

Speaker 20 (53:13):
The fact that he I just find it hard to
believe that so many on the Christian right are willing
to overlook as many flaws and be in support of him.
You know, those who are those who are faul we were.
As I said, we're all fall But when you think

(53:34):
of when you think of the route that Christians go,
it's that we are flawed. But you have to be
on the road, right, I mean, you have to be
on the road of.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
Redemption.

Speaker 20 (53:48):
You need to be on the road of trying to
do better, acknowledging your own sins, asking for forgiveness. There
is a path to go on that makes you more
acceptable to Christians to be on that path. Correct DJ correct.

Speaker 5 (54:03):
Correct, correct. I'm thinking critically here, Hoppy. This is heavy.
I mean, it's a heavy topic and I want to
do it in a way that's not judgmental. And I
know you didn't write it in a way that's no judgmental. No,
you didn't. And I'm not saying that. I'm wondering that
I think it was Lincoln that talked about if you're
so filled with hate, you're essentially denying yourself your future.

(54:23):
And when I look at some of the things Trump
has done, even with this wall of fame from yesterday
and what he put up with Biden. I'll let you
get into that if you want, but let's take Trump
of his word that he hates his enemies. If he's
so filled with hate, is that why he can't, at
least maybe in my eyes, be more productive, and he
can't get past these issues and we just end up
in this spiral over and over.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
I think that's part of it, you know.

Speaker 20 (54:47):
I to me, I am, I'm deeply moved personally by
the idea of forgiveness because it's a tenet of Christian faith.
Not only Christian faith, it's a tenet of all faiths okay?

Speaker 3 (55:03):
Is that? And we know from a Christian.

Speaker 20 (55:05):
Perspective about the idea of forgiveness. The Koran says, and
again a lot of people have perverted to Islam. Karan says,
the hour is certain to come, so forgive graciously. In Hinduism,
forgiveness is the best means for self purification and good karma.
The Shintoist forgiveness is about aligning with our true nature.

(55:28):
Every major faith has a concept of and a principle
of forgiveness, which is therefore a reason. Okay, that's not isolates,
therefore a reason. And I think that is so powerful,
that idea. And that's why it struck me what Erica
Kirk said, and it stood out to me that Trump
just can't bring himself to For Trump, it's always about

(55:50):
doubling down. It's about retribution, it's about punishing your enemies.
And that has influenced He's the president, so that has
influence on others and how others, how others act, and
he's a point man for that. He's not sitting on
that front to me as the president. And maybe we

(56:11):
don't look to the president as a spiritual leader, but
he is the leader of the country. That he's setting
a bad example for a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Is he setting a bad example or saying what many
people probably think, because I think Erica Kirks they forgiveness
is hard. Hop that's not easy. I mean, you can
say it, but to truly do it in that type
of a situation, that's I have no idea if I
could even if I could do that.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
Sure, I understand, I.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Honestly, might be more. There might be more angry, It
might be more of these. Sure, I hate my put
I know, I understand full of ring.

Speaker 6 (56:45):
No.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
I again, he's not a leader in that, but maybe
a lot of people feel the same way. That's what
I guess I'm saying.

Speaker 20 (56:54):
Okay, yeah, I again, very very valid point. However, that
is not whether you are a whether you're a Christian
or a Muslim or a Buddhist, that is not what
you're instructed to do.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
Correct.

Speaker 20 (57:10):
Okay, And look, that's a valid point. I'm not sure
I could either. And you might be able to say
the words, but can you practice that? But we're at
a really, really dark.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
Time in this country in my opinion.

Speaker 20 (57:25):
Okay, there's a lot of anger, there's a lot of resentment,
there's a lot of polarization. And when Trump talks about
I think he had another line too, let me find it.
He said, we want religion brought back to America. And
clearly there are benefits, many many benefits. And we can
argue separately about the separation of religion and government. But

(57:50):
if you believe in the value of religion and faith
in life, which I do, if you believe in those things,
then it would help to practice them. It would help
by those who say it's important we want to bring
religion back to America to then practice practice what religion, says.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
DJ.

Speaker 5 (58:16):
I think it's entirely fair to evaluate his fruits and
his statements when he does lean so heavily on traditional
Judeo Christian values and espouse, and I would agree that
if we valued those things more in this country, we
would be in a better position. I think it's entirely fair, though,

(58:39):
to raise these questions when you make these comments. I
don't want to evaluate whether Trump is a Christian or not.
I am a Christian, but there are some people that
would listen to this show and I see it in
the text and they say, you're not a Christian. So
you know, fine, that's I don't want to do that.
But I don't see the value in uttering those words.

(59:03):
Why did he have to do it? You could have
just kept quiet on that. Why tell people that you
hate your opponents? Why set that e sample?

Speaker 3 (59:10):
I think Dave made a great point. That's that's Trump,
That's who he is.

Speaker 20 (59:13):
Don't you know We're not learning new things about Trump,
like you said, it's an applause line, it's a laugh line,
and maybe he's not being the hypocrite.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
But you know, I come back.

Speaker 20 (59:23):
We are in an era because of the leadership in
this country and the political polarization and some things the
other party has done as well.

Speaker 3 (59:30):
We're in an era. We're in an era of retribution.

Speaker 20 (59:33):
You know, there's a Quinnipiac poll out today, fifty three
percent of citizens believe democracy is not working. Right now,
think about that. More than half Americans think democracy is
not working. What's the reason for that. One of the
reasons is is not working very well. Okay, it isn't
working very well. You're be getting you guys are talking
about getting ready for government shutdown. Maybe so the kinds

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of things that get said at the highest levels in
this country in the debate are not helping democracy, are
not helping pull the country forward.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
They're just further dividing the country.

Speaker 5 (01:00:03):
I do feel like we need a Billy Graham moment.
You know, Billy Graham would always talk with the presidents.
And if Billy Graham were still here, not you know,
discounting his son or even Charlie Kirk, you kind of
wonder what those kinds of individuals would pull the president
aside in private and say to him about his comments.

Speaker 20 (01:00:18):
Last Sunday, well Franklin Graham, a support of the president,
said we believe this president will defend religious freedom where
the Democrats would not.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
So there it is.

Speaker 20 (01:00:25):
Yeah, there's there's the justification of the Christian rights support
of Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
He will fight for us.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Did here's a heavy, heavy question, hop did excuse me?
Evangelicals as a as a demographic painting of broad broad brush?
Here did they get trapped? Did they gravitate toward the
Republican Party or did the Republican Party in the and
I'm thinking back to Bush to a w kind of
get them trapped into the right where they really don't

(01:00:57):
have an option. If that question makes no it does
make sense.

Speaker 20 (01:01:01):
And I'm sure I can't speak for the Christian Riot
or evangelicals, but they look say, wow, we are So
the Democratic Party does not represent our interests, Okay, they are.
They are antithetical to our at least there's a generalization.
They are antithetical to our beliefs. So where can we
hitch our wagon? So in that sense, it makes more
it makes sense to hitch your wagon to Republicans.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
So and I guess my question is you've hitched your
wagon so so tightly. So a guy like Trump who
is does does not live, does not live in the faith,
does not practice on a regular base, you gotta go
with them, because that's that's your guy, that's our guys.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
That's what we got.

Speaker 20 (01:01:42):
He again, he will defend religious freedom. That's I think
you can sum it up that way. And also, if
you want to go to the biblical route, where as
Franklin Graham said, remember when Jesus told the crowd, let
the one without sin can's the first town. That we're
all fall we're all sinful, those kinds of things. But again,
Christian's their mission if we're all flawed. And you don't

(01:02:05):
have to be a pastor. I was getting some teasing
on the comments section today about Pastor Kirschibla. But you
don't have to be a pastor or religious scholar to
understand the teachings of the Bible, and you're supposed to
be and many of us fail at this. Me included
on the road right, on the road to redemp of
doing the right things, of asking for forgiveness, forgiving others,

(01:02:28):
of trying to do better. And that's that's your accepting
Christ as your favor. I mean, that is your mission
as a Christian, right But Jack, I.

Speaker 5 (01:02:38):
Still it is. But I still think it's fair to
question Trump's motives and taking outside I'm sitting here thinking
about some of these televangelists Hobby that talk about the
prosperity gospel all the time. You know, many people can
stand up and talk about Jesus. Doesn't mean they know Jesus,
doesn't mean they understand the tenets of Christianity. So I
do think despite Graham's point and yes, we are all sinners,

(01:03:01):
when you stand up and you say these things, and
you and you preached Judeo Christian values and then you
say what Trump said last Sunday, I think you open
yourself up for that discernment. I think that's fair.

Speaker 20 (01:03:13):
I thought that that, you know that what was said
at the funeral got me interested.

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
I went back and reread Luke and it is just
if it occurs.

Speaker 20 (01:03:25):
To me, again just being not being a scholar on this,
that the final words of Jesus on the cross are
the fundamental tenet of a fundamental tenet of Christianity. Right Father,
forgive them for they know not what they do or
what they've done, depending on what version you read. I mean,
isn't that isn't that what it is? Isn't there a

(01:03:47):
reason why? That's the last thing that Jesus said on
the cross.

Speaker 5 (01:03:50):
Love God and love people. That's what it boils down to.

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
So listen. Services this week will be at ten thirty in.

Speaker 20 (01:03:57):
I feel like we should have a pot Look, well, look,
it arose because it did. Okay, it arose because of
Charlie Kirk's assassination, arose because of the funeral.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
It rose because that's why this all bubbled up.

Speaker 20 (01:04:10):
In my opinion, and other people have written about it too,
It's not unique to me.

Speaker 5 (01:04:13):
But these are good conversations to have. We should not
shy away from these conversations, oh, you know, religion and policy.
I think this is a healthy discourse for America and
a healthy conversation to have. I don't think we should
shy away from having it, feeling bad about having the conversation,
being okay, disagreeing what he said, what he didn't say.

(01:04:34):
I think it's good that we're talking about it. Because
we're talking about it. No one's pointing guns at people.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
Well, that's true. And just in.

Speaker 20 (01:04:43):
I know you got a break, but just in to
me in life, the New Testament has it's good called
the Good News for a reason, right, I mean, there's
just things there that whether you're devout or not. And
I know if you aren't devout and have no accept
Jesus christis You're savior, you're not gonna end up in heaven.

(01:05:04):
But there's some good advice in there, right, I mean,
there's some good life advice in there that's worth noting
on a daily basis. Thirty seconds on the Mountaineers go trouble,
trouble on the home front at some point during the season,
and Dave your third of the way through the season.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
You are what you are.

Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
Now.

Speaker 20 (01:05:24):
Maybe that changes a little bit if Nico is out
looks like he is and Henderson is going to be
the quarterback, but at some point you are what you are,
and right now.

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
That's not very good. Three guys today, three guys today
at twelve thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
All right, go get the macaroni ready for the pot luck,
would you we'll we'll do pot.

Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
Luck and then.

Speaker 20 (01:05:40):
Yeah, potluck, cover dish, cover cover dish, Come on your way.

Speaker 5 (01:05:45):
Thanks.

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seems to me that even evangelical Christians are just like
the rest of us humans. They cherry pick the parts
they like. I remember reading a poll not too long
ago where seventy percent of the Christian respondents said that
they believe Jesus would be against the death penalty, but
they were for it, so they took the side against
what they thought their Savior would want. Shaking my head,
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forgive in our human power. The Holy Spirit enables us
to do that. Four talk three four Too bad, t J.
I don't why they're calling you out too bad. TJ
doesn't live his life with the same standard he judges
Trump and others. His hate continues to shine brightly.

Speaker 5 (01:08:13):
Thank you. Uh well, this is hard for me to
talk about because I believe personally I gotta get this right.
I'll be held accountable one day for what I say
when it comes to my faith, and so I'm trying
to be very deliberate about it, even the conversation with
you and Hoppy, But I think it's a fair conversation
to have.

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When Trump first ran, a friend said, he just says
what everybody thinks. He never said what I think. Those
that say that evidently believe the white man is tragically
discriminated against. White people are better than black people and
or any other color. Life is about what's good for
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More of your text coming up next Segment three four
Talk three oh four. That is the text line. You
can give us a call as well. Eight hundred and
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and seven sixty five T eight l K. There was
public hearing last week in Mingo County for two natural
gas power plants. Well there's it's for the permit for

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the power plants that would operate as micro grids powering
two new data centers. There were several people at that
meeting opposed to the project, but there are others in
Mingo County who support the development of these plants and
data centers. Jared Dean joins as president of the Greater
Williamson Community Development Corporation. Jared, good morning, Thanks for coming
on talk line.

Speaker 26 (01:13:08):
Good morning, It's great to be a part of this program.
How are you doing this morning?

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Doing well? Why is Mingo County a good location for
these data center developments?

Speaker 26 (01:13:19):
I think Mingo County is the perfect location because of
the remote properties that I believe that these data centers
are going to be located on, which is far enough
away from the public. And I think that Mingo County
needs to be better positioned with economic development opportunities, and

(01:13:42):
you know, My position on this is that I'm pro jobs,
I'm pro economic development. Understand there's some concerns on the
environmental side, but I think dep is satisfying those concerns
in my opinion, or else the permits wouldn't be in process.
And so you know, Mingo County has In nineteen eighties

(01:14:04):
they had thirty seven thousand people. We're at twenty one
thousand now. So something has to happen in Mingo County
to boost the economy and get people back to Mingo
County and want to move to Mingo County. We have
a great tourism industry. I'm hopeful that the colon industry,
because of deregulation, is going to come back to our
county as well. So I just we've got the properties,

(01:14:26):
we've got the infrastructure to do these things, and so
I think that it's a perfect fit Mingo County.

Speaker 5 (01:14:32):
Is if those who live in Mingo County, Jarrett say no,
and if they would be successful in stopping this developer
or persuading the developer not to come there, then what
do you do? What's next? I mean not to put
too fine a point on it, but it seems that
opportunities are limited.

Speaker 26 (01:14:51):
I think we have to start looking at the states overall,
and I've read an article on your all site. I
think that Mingo County has to start looking at our
contribution to the state's GDP. You know, we are we
are contributing less than one percent of the GDP of
the state, whereas you have Kanall County that is producing

(01:15:13):
fourteen percent of the GDP and that's because of Chemical
Valley that happened in Kanall Valley. So in my personal opinion,
and I understand personal opinions are under attack these days,
but I feel that if Kannall County can have Chemical Valley,
and I've been in West Virginia my entire life, I've
not heard any cases of health disparities because of Chemical

(01:15:38):
Valley unless somebody can show me those articles or those
things that's happened in the past that industry was created.
You know, Kanall County was predominantly farming industry before Chemical Valley,
so they evolved into industry. So Mingo County has always
been a coal mining industry. So Mingo County is not

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a virgin when it comes to industry. The properties that
are being proposed for these data centers are not virgin
forest property. They are reclaimed surface mind sites, so these
types of developments can happen. But if this effort is,
in my opinion, killed, I don't it's gonna make Mingo

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County less attractive for economic development initiatives of investors that
want to come into Mingo County and into the state.
And it also makes it harder for the legislature or
the governor to lobby efforts in southern West Virginia, specifically
into Mingo County for investment opportunities. I believe the Development

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Office in the State of West Virginia does a great
job of attracting industry from overseas to come into our state,
and southern West Virginia needs to be included in those efforts.
And I feel in this initiative with the data centers,
and it's getting national attention even from the Trump administration,
they're all for it. I think our governors for it,
and I think most of all the state is the

(01:17:03):
legislature passed the bill to allow these things to happen.
So I don't think it's going to be a situation
where deep or air quality control is going to allow
an industry to be created that's going to be detrimental
to the health of its citizens here in the state.
So if we pass this opportunity up, I think our
one percent contribution to the GDP is going to continue

(01:17:25):
to fall and other counties in the state are going
to have to pick up that loss somehow, and then
Mingo County is going to be faced with less opportunities.
That's just my belief. That's my opinion on that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
Jared Dean is joining US president of the Greater Williamson
Community Development Corporation. Jared for Mingo County. If you get
the data center, you get the power plant. Part of
the bill that was passed last year, it dictates thirty
percent of the tax revenue generated stays there in the county.
What would that type of revenue do for Mingo County.

Speaker 26 (01:18:00):
Well not I mean not only that the people that's
going to be working at those data centers if there are,
if they are our local residents, that's that's great jobs.
But if those data centers produce jobs that people are
going to move to Bingo County, it's going to increase
the tax base. I will tell you, as the parks
director for the City of Williamson, you know there are

(01:18:24):
levees that these tax dollars are going to benefit from
through utility tax and property tax and things like that.
So that's how part of our parks is funded through
levee funding. So I think the county is going to
be better positioned for infrastructure upgrades things like that that
that thirty percent could be applied towards.

Speaker 5 (01:18:47):
Some of the critics would say that there are very
few jobs, it's not worth it, there's not enough jobs.
How would you address that criticism.

Speaker 26 (01:19:01):
I think through this opportunity, it's gonna it's gonna close
that gap. I think that we I think that Mingo
County in general, I don't think that we can afford
to be picky on what industries are brought into the county,
especially through the permitting that that has clearly been stated
that these are safe conditions. And you know, if I

(01:19:24):
read the article correctly, these centers can employ up to
five hundred people and then other you know, downstream industries,
uh that can be you know, these engines could be
manufactured in Mingo County. So there are some some downstream
economic uh you know, upticks I think to the economy
that could be generated through this development. Uh that could happen.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
And Jared, you brought up a point that I think
is a big, big point. These are this isn't virgin timber,
untouched force. These are reclaimed mindsets that probably property is
not generating anything right at the moment. These data centers
would generate revenue for the county, could produce jobs on
property that otherwise, what are you going to do with it? Jared,

(01:20:11):
it's just going to sit there.

Speaker 26 (01:20:14):
You're absolutely I mean, you're absolutely correct. I think one
of the proposed site I believe in Mingo County was
the old Twisted Gun golf course. That golf course is
no longer there, and it was a great golf course.
I played golf there. But you know that that's no
longer there, so that property is up for reuse. And
like I said, that property is not virgin ground to industry.

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The infrastructure is there. We're already ahead of the game
there on the development piece. So I just I just
think that we should try it. I think that we should.
We should see the reports that come out and and
people should feel safe and trust that the DPR is
doing their job and air Quality is doing their job.
And you know, Mingo County in particular ular has an

(01:21:01):
abundance supply of deep mindpool water that these plants are
going to be pumping out, and to my understanding, those
plants are recirculating that water. They are bringing that water
up out of the deep mind pools that stays at
you know, the fifty degree range between fifteen and sixty degrees,
and they're just using that water to cool, to cool

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the systems down, and then they pump it right back
into the deep mind pools. And it's to my knowledge,
it is a circulating system. I don't think DP has
released any discharge information. If there's going to be any
public harm to that, I think we're still waiting on
that information. But to me, it's it's going to be
more of a self sufficient system. So again, I just

(01:21:46):
I think we need to let it happen. We need
to produce jobs, we need to get back up to
that thirty seven thousand population period like it was in
the eighties, and we need to be inviting for industry
to come into being county.

Speaker 5 (01:22:01):
I think it's great that people ask questions. I think
these forums are good. I don't think anyone's questions or
opinions should be lightly dismissed. They talk about pollution, noise pollution,
light pollution. Look, those are valid questions that I think
are feared to raise. However, I don't think there was
necessarily a very large crowd at the last gathering. You

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can elaborate on those numbers, if you know. My question
to you is, despite the pushback that we read about,
what would you say most folks in Mingo County have
in terms of their opinion on this as are most
folks on board and would like to see it, such
as yourself or do you feel that those that are
against it have the majority say of what those in

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the county believe and think.

Speaker 26 (01:22:47):
I think what we're seeing publicly is the opposition. But
I know for a fact that there are numerous, numerous
amounts of people sending emails in to dep in favor
of this project. I don't ever discount public concerns, especially
people that's concerned for safety and health. But again, I

(01:23:12):
think those and a lot of times people are afraid
of change as well. And I'm sure in Kanall County
when Chemical Valley was coming in, I'm sure that there
was public forums and public meetings and there were concerns,
and so I don't think this is something new to
West Virginia. It might be new to Mingo County, but

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this generation that we're in now is facing this new change.
And I'm sure when coal mining started happening in the
eighteen hundreds in Mingo County, people had concerns about that.
So this is just another wave of concerns that I
think are being mitigated through the reporting and the testing
and the permitting stage. And so I think that we

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need to rely on that data and that information and
you know, as a as a I guess a comfort
zone to us that it's going to meet safe standards
by regulation.

Speaker 1 (01:24:08):
Jared Dean, President of the Greater Williamson Community Development Corporation.
We'll continue to follow this as it moves forward.

Speaker 26 (01:24:14):
Thank you, Jared, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
Absolutely coming up, We've got some phone calls to get
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Eight hundred and seven sixty five talks the phone number
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Jeff in Greenbrier County. What's on your mind? Jeff?

Speaker 4 (01:26:12):
Hey, buddy, why do I Christians vote for Trump? Well,
you can make an argument that he's not Christian because
he's not very forgiveful. Are forgiving? I'll go along with that.
You got an argument there, But is he pro life?
Heybody says he's not. He's got to be brain dead.
Did he say he was going to secure the border?
Did he secure the border? Democrats said, we can't do it.

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This country does not want twenty five million people coming
across the border, let alone criminals from Venezuelan prisons. What
about the democratics and their primaries or lack thereof? Are
we supposed to vote for them? We can't vote for
Trump because he makes mistakes or or he's got faults
that we're gonna vote for. We're gonna vote for Kamales.
His brain dead can't answer a question, Joe Biden, he's

(01:26:57):
just playing brain dead. What about Israel? About who says
he sports Israel? He didn't support Israel? October seventh happened.
People's babies were thrown in ovens. He didn't do anything.
Trump destroyed Iran's nuclear capabilities. He keeps his campaign promises.
Who was supposed to vote for? Just because he said
something Happy didn't agree with. Who's happied even it was

(01:27:19):
a memorial service, not a funeral. Why don't we talk
about the good things? Well, he was just waiting for
Trump to face something we didn't like. Who cares what
Happy Kourgable thinks.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
Jeff, appreciate the phone call. Let's go to Oh I
lost the call screen? Hang on?

Speaker 3 (01:27:34):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
John? And Beckley? What's on your mind? John?

Speaker 27 (01:27:39):
Hey, guys?

Speaker 4 (01:27:40):
Thanks?

Speaker 27 (01:27:41):
Also, similar to the previous caller, just wanted the comment
that I think Christians are sophisticated enough to make a
distinction between personal morality and government leaders and government policies.
It's entirely appropriate for a believer to forgive someone who
sinned against them, as Erica Kirk did. But to be clear,

(01:28:01):
it's worth noting Erica Kirk didn't say that the assassinator.

Speaker 4 (01:28:04):
Should go free.

Speaker 27 (01:28:06):
She just simply said I forgive him, but the government's
going to do what the government's going to do, take
action to punish him. But also at the same time,
it's a great good to have leaders who will protect
us from crime, from rioting mobs, from those who would rob, rape, murder, assassinate,
even against foreign leaders. We can't have government leaders that

(01:28:29):
just simply say, well, you take action against our citizens,
and no matter what the crime is, no matter what
your hostile nation is, we're just going to forgive you
and let you come right on in now. I think
Christians are sophisticated enough to understand the difference between personal
morality and what it takes to run a nation, and

(01:28:49):
protecting life, liberty, and property is a great good.

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
John appreciate the phone call Buddy eight hundred and seven
and sixty five talks the phone number three or four
talk three or four is the text line, And to
kind of excentuate that point, I think this text hoppy
is bewildered by Christians voting for Trump. But did Biden
or Kamala have the moral high ground on him. They're
just as corrupt, if not worse, all things being equal

(01:29:14):
in the morality department, you vote for the person who
shares your interests, says the texter. Three or four talk
three or four? All right, A bunch of text let's
see if we can get through some here. Wow, that
is long. Three or four talk three or four. Now,
Hoppy is God. He can judge others. I don't think
he's judging anything. He was just pointing out the differences

(01:29:37):
in the messaging from Sunday UH Data centers.

Speaker 3 (01:29:43):
I want to get some of these.

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
About the commentary, I am familiar with that George Carlin quote,
but I'm not going to read it on the air.
But thank you, I am familiar with it. Though this
is a stab at myn earlier rant. All I have
to say today is go Indians. Somebody holding onto the

(01:30:08):
past there with the Cleveland fans. Three or four, talk
three or four, tell Hoppy. The last thing Jesus said
on the cross was it is finished, meaning we don't
have to be saved through our works anymore. Jesus took
our place. All we have to do is accept him
and receive our gift of grace. Therefore we can forgive
through Jesus. Feeling like it has nothing to do with forgiveness.

Speaker 3 (01:30:32):
Did I read that one?

Speaker 2 (01:30:32):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:30:32):
I did read that one already. All right, let me
take a break. Let me read a couple of these
through a couple times before we put them on the air,
because you know, I don't want to get fired. I
kind of like this job. You may not like us
in this job, but I kind of like it. So
let me take a quick break. We'll be back. Get
some more text in wrap things up here. On what
day is today? TJ? Is it Thursday already?

Speaker 5 (01:30:54):
It feels like it ought to be Friday, But yeah,
it's Thursday.

Speaker 1 (01:30:56):
Oh it's not Friday because I'm not prepared to go
do a game today. We'll be back in a moment.

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This is a very long text makes some very good points.
I will try to hit a couple of them. TEXTA says, Trump,
like most of us, uses God for his own agenda
and benefit. That does not make it good, but he
does it more transparent and appalling example of our own
spiritual shortcomings. Trump's words unless change explain his demise when

(01:33:01):
it arrives. Yes, every character in the Bible was inadequate incomplete,
with the only exception being God's savior. All are in
need of saving, including the most accurate observers of human behavior.
Forgiveness is necessary for many practical and therapeutic reasons, but
Christian forgiveness arises solely from believing Christ is the source
of deep and eternal forgiveness. The Good News is more

(01:33:22):
than a doctrine or philosophy. It's a relationship founded on
undeserved grace. I may get through this whole thing. God
uses even those who seek to manipulate and use him.
King Saul and Samson reflect many of Trump's thoughts, actions,
and personality deficits. Neither of those were exalted in scripture.
But God's power and goodness can and does use leaders
such as these. Good text well written, well thought out.

(01:33:46):
You got to go.

Speaker 5 (01:33:47):
Can I sum up ten seconds?

Speaker 1 (01:33:49):
That's about all you got?

Speaker 5 (01:33:50):
Love God, love people, ask for forgiveness when you mess up,
and grant forgiveness when other people ask good of you.

Speaker 1 (01:33:58):
Texter says, Hoppy is our voice of reason. Texter says,
I wish you had some place to publish all the
texts you cannot read. Inquiring minds want to know.

Speaker 3 (01:34:08):
Lol.

Speaker 1 (01:34:09):
Uh, maybe let's assign that to Jake Jake Ony, don't
you start a blog? Our blog still things? Do those
still exist? And you can publish all the texts that
we cannot read on the air. How about that? And
then when Jake gets fired for that, you know we'll
still be here doing the show.

Speaker 5 (01:34:27):
All that was your idea. So they'll get you two,
all right, We'll try.

Speaker 1 (01:34:31):
To do a little bit better tomorrow. Steamer les A,
eleven thirty three. This is talk Line Metro News, the
voice of West Virginia.

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