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So it's a bit of a different show for a
variety of reasons. As I said, we normally aired at six,
We want to air today at one d. Everybody involved,
hence the Mattinee addition, and now this is a tribute
to Miles Sun. Myles' son was yeah again. As I
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was telling my friend Bob Starkman, who'll joined me momentarily
along with two other friends. If you wrote a book
or if you tried to make a movie about Miles's life,
Hollywood producers would reject it, not because it wasn't interesting,
but because they wouldn't believe it. The guy led a
life that just transcends any movie that you've seen, any
book that you've read about figures in law enforcement. He
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wore so many as over the course of his career
and squeezed so many different things into sixty nine years
of life that they were well lived, you know, and well spent.
He was a wonderful guy, had a hilarious sense of humor.
Was on this program multiple times, recommended to me by Bob,
and I got to hear some some really fascinating stories.
Now you know again it always seems to go this way.
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The good go young, and Myles was too young to
leave us. He left us at the age of sixty
nine last year, fit as a fiddle, strong as an ox.
He unfortunately had complications post surgery with the blood clot
and that, of all things, is what unfortunately took him
away from us. But he's not forgotten because he left
behind quite the legacy which we're gonna revisit today. And
this is not the usual show. We're just really just
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gonna go off to coffin remember our friend today and
to join us in doing that in Membory, A really
one of the kind guy. As I said before, is
Bob Starkman. Returning guest Bob Starkman at that returning guest
Alex Alonso had a special guest surprise which I just
found out about Joe Pistone aka Donnie Brasco. Yes, that
Dotty Brasco, of whom the nineteen seventh film in which
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Shoddy Depth started and was based off of Gentlemen. It's
great to see you guys again. Welcome back to the
show for the special edition. Here you get good good.
I wish we were all together under better circumstances. This somber,
but nevertheless, you know what, Miles was a hilarious guy.
He led a wonderful life. So this won't be a
somber show. It'll be a show full of a lot
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of happy memories of a really, really great person. Tell
me about because you says you talked about off here
you knew him way back when before the job. Even
how you first met Miles and how your friendship evolved
with him.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Well, I met Miles. I think it was nineteen seventy
three when I was seen in high school.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
I always said that two sets of friends, and Miles,
let's just.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Say the other set. I kind of, you know, lost
touch with him for a while. And then I had
gone to school in.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
California and I came back and I go into this
music class and I see this guy.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
It looks like John.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
Travolta, you know, platform shoes as slice back, you know,
matching pants, matching shirt. It was Miles, and we kind
of reconnected. And then I was playing basketball. I said,
at the time of college, I think Miles was recreating
or starting to move John travolta dance wave. And we
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used to work out in a gym, myself, Miles and
a good friend called to Rossano.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
And the years went by.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
You know, we started taking all his police tests and
actually a funny story, which there's so many with him,
Miles kept on telling us, hey, let's go out and
take the Suffer County police tests.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
So Calin I said, no problem, no problem. So Miles
made a plan that we had to meet.
Speaker 8 (05:44):
Him in the morning and you know, pick him up
and drive him all way off from Queen's to Suffer County,
which is a bit of a ride.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Well, Colin and.
Speaker 8 (05:50):
I went out the night before, and you know, we
never picked up Miles because we never got.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
There, and I never heard the end of it. But
then when we found out the only.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Reason Miles really invited us was because he didn't have
a call, so you know, and that was him.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
And then afterwards Miles was the first guy at a
our group.
Speaker 6 (06:09):
He got hired by the border patrol and he was
out there and we you know, just waiting to get hired.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
I get the jobs. I believe I was a crash
at the time.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
And we went out to see Miles out and uh
San Diego and was working on the.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Sane side border and it was so funny.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
We went want him and his wife and day and
Miles used to always wear.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
A Superman tall and his cub were going to Tijuan.
That's what you know, you could go to Tijuana. Well,
not only did he.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
Know everybody on the US side, we're walking through Tijuan, everybody's.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
A superman, superman, you know, he knew.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
Everybody over there. So and he was destined to be
the mayor one day there, you know. And then years
went by and Miles was working with immigration. I got
hired by Customs that I transferred to Miami, and I
was able to help Miles get a transfer.
Speaker 9 (07:07):
Came dowwn here when he started his career with Customs
with US in Miami, so we were kind of reconnected again.
So he did that for years, you know, and uh
so we met Alex's partner.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
You know, we just Joe's instructor on the cover school,
and there's a million Miles stories. You know, they just
go on and on, you know, just.
Speaker 8 (07:29):
Craziest things that happened, you know, the way he was,
you know, just you can't say a bad word about Miles.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
You know, he's just that kind of guy.
Speaker 8 (07:37):
And then unfortunately, you know, this is what happened. But
let Joe tell a couple of stories.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
You could get back to me because I could take
up four hours and I'll cut them down a small
version of me.
Speaker 10 (07:48):
Yes, I met Miles, and uh it was either eighty
ninety teaching that under covered class US customs in fact
that when I.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
First met Bob.
Speaker 10 (08:03):
So you know, you do the lectures and then you
do scenarios with the students in the class. So at
the end then you you know you're great amount and
you either get a passing group. Then when I not
say passing, it's either yeah, you could do this undercover
or you can't.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
So we get we get through the week, week and.
Speaker 10 (08:25):
A half and I sit down with Miles and I say, Miles,
I said.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
You know I can't. I don't think you're cut out
for this undercover business. And he says, well why, I said, well,
let me tell you. You look the part.
Speaker 10 (08:40):
You're good looking guy, you know how to ingratiate yourself
with people.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
But you talk too much, Miles, you're undercover. You've got
to learn to listen. You never shut up. So that
was by interaction with Miles of the undercover school.
Speaker 11 (08:59):
Good.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah, I have a story.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Until I met Miles way way before. We were on
the boats together early on. But I just Joe just
reminded me of a story because he always Miles always.
Speaker 12 (09:14):
Always thought I can never do undercover. You know, I'm not,
you know.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Uh, He's just like because he looked like a state trooper.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
You looked at me. No, you know immediately. But one
in one case we did.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
We were working with da out of uh Baltimore and
there was a target who wanted wanted a hitman to
kill uh the prosecutor who had put him in this predicament.
He's gonna go to jail and he was gonna in
turn for that, he was gonna pay us in hero
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Miles somehow ended up being the main undercover guy, right
and I was covering him. We went to Maryland with
an informant. He got on a boat in the bay.
There he meets the guy and they're talking into discussing,
and I'm sitting in the room with with the US
attorney and with the uh DA agent who's who's helping
us prosecute the case, and Miles is just talking away,
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talking away, talking away to your point, Joe, nobody could
get and then a word in edgewise. And even when
the bad guy was gonna say something, Miles to keep
talking talking, and she was.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Like, call him, tell him to shut up.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
So I would be like, I call him, Hey, you know,
pretending to me, said Miles, So let's cut it.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
We got enough evidence, let's.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Go, And he'd keep going and going and going, and
finally it was like an hour into this thing. We
had way evidence more than we needed. The prosecutors falling
on sleep, the DA asked.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Were you just gonna cut this?
Speaker 3 (10:43):
We're gonna go let him and arrested. And finally I'm
telling them and then finally we cut it. I go, Miles,
what happened? Why did you be going? This is my
first undercover. I wanted to keep it going. You know,
he just wanted to keep on going and going and going.
I got but the transcript was like Miles Miles, Miles, Miles,
bad guy. Once Miles, Miles, Miles Miles on.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
It was a great ad.
Speaker 13 (11:07):
I we grew up in New York and I used
to work in the group, and Uh, what we would
do is we wou needed a hotel, but we would
you know, we had that pre arrange because.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
There guys are informed with the undercover and stay out
to the block.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
So what I would do is maybe an hour before
I was go in walk around.
Speaker 13 (11:28):
You know, you never know if you know the RA Agency,
DA cops.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Know you had no idea. So I went to check
the place.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
The lobby is filled with about fifty Colombians, right, I
had no idea Miles was in New York.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Now, Miles used to wear these wild pants. They were
called zubash. They were like sweatpants, really bright stuff.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
And you know, Miles at the building to walk at
the classes.
Speaker 14 (11:52):
Everything was perfect, you know, so I'm walking, I'm looking around.
All of a sudden I had and Bob, did you
do the pick up yet? The whole place? And you know,
I had no idea he was there. But he knew
I was there, you know. It was so funny. And
then another time both.
Speaker 8 (12:07):
Of us internal affairs was pretty bad by us, and
they were going after him.
Speaker 15 (12:13):
They're going after Alix, they're going after me. Coincidentally, Miles
and I are.
Speaker 8 (12:17):
Up there on a separate case and we just meet
up and we knew we were both going to be there.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
And out of nowhere, this Columbian guy comes up to
Miles in the lobby of the.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Married outside of Loo why they were airport, says oh,
I just found one hundred and thirty seven thousand dollars.
Speaker 11 (12:33):
Can you help me?
Speaker 4 (12:35):
I'm like, you know, Miles, Oh, we got to help
this guy.
Speaker 16 (12:38):
Go Miles, we get set up, you know, and the
bottom line was it was a setup.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
But my point was Miles was such a great guy.
You know, he thought everybody was a friend, you know,
and that was you know.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
I guess it could have been twelve four, you know,
but thank god we were able to get rid of
that one.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
But one of the other stories too, we where I
helped him out when I was on.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
The Dope case, and Miles was a great agent show up.
I mean, he knew how to work the street, you
know or whatever, so will you. I'll never get It
was a Porsche. It was outside the Miami Airport and
we're kind of chasing the guy and I was able.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
To box the guy in and I get him out
of the car. At gun up point, I can't find Miles.
Miles is Miles is in the something just said.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I'll so we're chasing the guy.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
We get get out of the car. I got the
guy at gunpoint, I can't find Miles. Miles gets out
of the car. I think he was driving at correct.
It's on a couple of he's like three phones. Hey
hold on, I'm in the middle of the cost Hey,
let me call you back. I'll be into the gym
at six. Miles, get your finance home.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
We did kind of get in custody, so you finally
came over and we took care of business, you know.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
But he was just, you know, to me, it was
the artist with him. Miles, Like I said, we go
back a.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
Long time, you know, And uh, it's just you could
just go on and on, and there's just so many
great stories and like like you said about a movie.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
We're at the Federal Enforcement Office and Association.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
They had a Christmas party, and you know they give
out like little gigs, you know, at the end of
the party.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
So we had he was at a wings place, you know.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
Like they have like the Ketcher bottles lined up all
over the place where I take one of the.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
New Ketcher bottles and put it in this big right.
So the night's about, you know, about to leave. Excuse me,
the night is over. We are about to leave. Miles
picks up the big he goes Bob, This big is
really heavy. And he really took care of us, really Miles.
He looks and said, look at this. He gave us ketchup.
He really thought that one of the gifts. What's ketchri bottle?
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You know. So but you know, like I said, he
didn't have a bad bone in his body. He had
a heart of gold.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
Yeah, and I will tell you know, like I said,
he's a The stories we could go on and on,
but on a serious note, I was assigned to the
Florida Joint Task.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Force before, during, and after nine to eleven nine to
eleven hit. It was a cluster bank. Nobody knew what
to do.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
I went to the their boss, the guy who was
my supervisor that I was reported to the FBI.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
I said, listen, you gotta get Miles over there. He
knows the airport. I mean by the time he got
there within a day, and he got no credit for it.
And even in my book I mentioned that it was Miles.
Miles identified a lot of the courtiers how they came in.
He knew to find their customs declarations. I mean, we
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had a girl, ddu in my career, and she came down.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
She was an agent, broke down from Orlando, had the ideas,
you know, the customs.
Speaker 8 (15:43):
Decks they called them, and then all the identifying information.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
On several of the talks.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
He was able to call up a former FBI agent
I forgot his name, but he was in charge of American.
Speaker 6 (15:53):
Analytic Security and he was able to pull a decks.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Miles was so instrumental.
Speaker 8 (15:59):
So the second night we're there, one of the agents
we worked with, great guy Paul, I forgot his last name.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
He tended me, listen, I need you in Miles, to
go over to the mosque in Mirror Va. He says,
I have an informant there, and I believe the informant
is withholding information, you know, but I think two agents from.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Another agency go over there. Especially to the two biggest
Jews that have ever seen the guy will talk. I
had no problem, no problem.
Speaker 8 (16:30):
So I go to the supervisor and I tell her that,
you know, we're gonna go over there.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Paul wants us to go stalk to his informant and
she was failing and she says to me, you can't go.
So I thought she was kidnaped. I said, why can't
I go? She goes, it's dark out the bark out.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
So I pull out my bads and says, us customers
whatever the seventeen whatever it was started, I said.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
It doesn't say anything about working day night.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
So we got livid, and, like I said, very rarely
juicy Miles get mad, and he was really upset.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
I was.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
I said, screw with him, myself and the Secret Service agents.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
We're gonna go eat now.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
The old FBI building had like a wall around it,
like a little four It wasn't that high, and across
the street from the building was a like a kid's nursery.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
So all the newscasters were set up there at the.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
Trucks and I usually see it in the front sea
because I'm a big guy. I was so mad. I
hop in the back seat and Miles's car. Now, what
do you think is in the back seat? Most cops
are agents who have shotguns. Wull proofst He had his
gym bag, his white belt, and his towel.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Said okay, so I take.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
The towel and I put it on top of my
head like a chic, and I put my hands behind
my back.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
Miles don't know this. As we're driving out, what did
the newscast to see?
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Two agents in the front they had some.
Speaker 17 (17:49):
Terrors from nine to eleven in the back seat I had,
you know, so we had a really good time with that.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
You know, you have to make the best of it.
And one other nine to eleven story they almost go out.
I mean, we got the craziest salls. Now, when I
say we everybody.
Speaker 17 (18:05):
One guy claimed that they saw Ben Laden on the roof,
you know, with like an antenna.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Communicating with somebody. So Miles and I had to go
out to Miami Beach and interview this guy. Now, just
based on that information, you know, the guy to be
off the wall. So we show up. We say two
words to him. I'm convinced the guy's out of his mind.
Speaker 17 (18:25):
Now, you know, Miles is really serious, and he wants
to get to the bottom.
Speaker 18 (18:29):
So Miles is standing, the guy's facing him, and I'm
behind the guy.
Speaker 16 (18:33):
So every time Miles to ask a question, and we
either make a face out of.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Him or I would say something crazier like I would
give the response.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
So Miles, all of a sudden, I see him his
lips of puck rin and he just breaks out laughing
and he goes, Bob, will you stop. I go, yeah,
let's get out of here again. You know, that was
that was just who he was, you know, just like
I said, he always wanted to get to the bottom
of things.
Speaker 12 (18:57):
Miles had the ability to I don't know how he
did this, Mike, but.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
He he had.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
He knew it something about everything, And I could talk
to you intelligently for about an hour about anything, anything,
whatever the subject was, and we'd be I can't tell
you how many times I worked with him in in
investigative groups. A lot that we you know, rest people
or h you know, bring in suspects that we wanted
to interview and talk about, but to that we knew
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were involved and wanted to get more information. Miles would
start a conversation about anything like I don't know, gas
prices in Cuba, for example. He would just and he
knew exactly the oil prices and the important structure of
how that occurred and all that, more so than the
people that we were talking to.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
He would get it to a point where.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I think the suspects would just give up and say, okay,
I did it. Man, Just get me out of this room.
I can't fuck him. But he was like that.
Speaker 12 (19:51):
He was had the greatest heart, was a great guy.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
At his core. That's what he That's what he loved.
Speaker 12 (19:58):
He loved being a cop, of being an agent, love
being in law enforcement.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
That's what he did.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
We would sit around in the evenings, you know, late
that night after we had done a case or something,
and think about how we take it to that next level.
Case said we made out of nothing that would have
probably just been you know, seasoned, tossed evidence. He would
figure out a way, Hey, let's call the person, Hey,
let's just go to the location and knock on the door.
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Just different tactics that you wouldn't normally think about, and
they work and they turn into a major investigation. Miles
just had that way, and he cared about right like
he cared. My brother passed away nineteen ninety one, and
I was I was distraught. I had just come back
from Brazil on a case we did. It's a really
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good case we're working. I was, you know, kind of down,
and he knew it. He so he shows up at
my house and a brand new blue Corvette, you know,
the top down.
Speaker 12 (20:56):
I'm like, Miles, what is this? He goes, this is
your this is your new g car.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
He convinced my boss, our boss at the time, that
that I needed a new car, because you know I didn't.
I did Primarily the undercover work for that group wasn't
very you know it covert operation. I would say, not
not deep deep undercover. But I did most of the
undercover work for the group. And he went out of
his way to sort of like as a gift, like
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that made me feel good, right.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
He went to our.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Boss say, looks get let's get out, and he brought
us that quarterback, which he later then got for himself.
Speaker 12 (21:27):
But it was a gesture that nobody asked him, nobody did.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
That was just Miles. That's what he would do.
Speaker 12 (21:33):
He just know something was up with you, and he
he was a good friend.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
He Miles. Also, you know, he was an avid weightlift.
He was a help nut.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
I also coached college basketball, so when I was coaching
at ground college, I brought Miles in.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
As a strength coach.
Speaker 8 (21:47):
So every year he would do like, uh, you know,
body fat testing or make programs for the kids.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
I had a kid that came in.
Speaker 8 (21:55):
From He was from Africa, and I think they sent
me their own play in my content.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
But that's another story. So Miles comes in.
Speaker 15 (22:03):
Now what happened was, you know, he would do the
body fat So Miles has the guy in front of him.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
This guy's six foot nine and Miles us to put
you know, the tape measure around him.
Speaker 8 (22:13):
Well, the guy had one of those belly buttons that
stuck out and it looked like an erection. It was horrible, Miles.
You have to picture Miles if you know it. He
has to be from behind. He touches it and he goes,
holy shit. He took that the guy had an erection.
It was like a belly button that came out like
you know, it was unbelievable, and you know he's sitting
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there laughing for three hours.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
But another thing which Joe.
Speaker 15 (22:38):
Probably forgot, Miles asked us he was big, you know,
he's big with these different organizations, and the honored some agents.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Something at the Police of Memorial. We go back to
this luncheon and he gave Joe and I awards. He
made us some awards. He gave us some kind of
awards from Floyd. Mean, I'm retired eighteen years, Joe's retired years.
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
He gave us awards just to show, you know, and
you guys, another thing, A great story about Miles which
most people don't know. I don't even know if his
family knows this, well, they know he went over to
Afghanistan and as one of those law enforcement professionals, like
an instructor.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
We have that picture, Vick, if you can find it's
gonna be Miles in a military uniform and he's got
something sat.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
On or something. Yet. Oh yeah, that's Miles in the barracks. Yeah,
that's him.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
So you should have another picture of Miles and another
soldier with a white T shirt.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
And I think the guys, I think I sent that
to you. Miles has like his looks like a baseball
coach in a picture. So what happened was I get
a email from my son in law with one of
the guys that served with in the hundred and first
Airborn telling me he's been injured. Just I didn't know
(23:51):
what to expect. Well, first I thought he got like
blown up, but then I realized he sent me an email,
so he definitely had some hands.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
So I asked him in the email, where are you
send him in Barkam Air Base? I said, great, give
me a number I could reach you. So I send
Miles an email. Five minutes later, I get a phone
call from a nine.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
Four nine five four area code which is Broward County Miles.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
Broward County phone number operating in Bakam Air Base.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Miles finds the guy takes care of him like people
don't realize it.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
Did you realize what that meant to a soldier that
got wounded in combat? And here's Miles. Now he has
somebody with some type of bloodline to him, and that's
that's who he was.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
You know.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
He just he would give his heart, you know, I mean,
he'd give his heart to you and then you know, man,
you can just go on and on with him. He
uh the one thing he you know, I mean, on
a professional note, you can't say nothing bad about it,
except for he thought everything.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
You know, everybody was his friend. And one of the
hardest things that ever happened to me was when they
asked me to get the eulogy.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
I gave his eulogy at his funeral, And to be
honest with you, I didn't think I could do it.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
You know, I really couldn't. And I wasn't gonna have.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
To get Jason Rios, I said, Jason, because he kept
in touch with Miles.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
And I said, Jason, listen, I said, you know, Miles
just passed away.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
He said, what I'm getting on a plane the next day,
he flew down to make sure he was at his funeral.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
That just shows the ultimate respect that people have for Miles,
you know. And it just I don't know, like, how
do you like? You said? You say a movie?
Speaker 3 (25:35):
He was calling you at the at the out of
the blue middle of the day, Hey, are you are
you putting money into your four to one K? Have
you put your percentages up? Did you know that this
law now says that? And he gave me an hour
rundown on the whole thing, to the point where I
started basing my retirement, uh, you know, options and movement on.
(25:58):
Let me go come forward first, before I do this,
you know, and he would do that all the time.
So you miss that, You miss those conversations with him
that sometimes you.
Speaker 12 (26:08):
Thought, oh this guy, call him tell me all this stuff, Miles, I'm.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Not gonna do.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
But but I missed that. I missed being able to
talk to him. He also he took care of my
thrift savings. I didn't know what I was doing, you know,
one of eight hundred Miles. You know, it was like
telegraph tell a photo tells.
Speaker 19 (26:26):
He did everything for us and I haven't touched it,
you know, a couple of hours, not a lot, but
he would do that that he was telling me, you
need to do this, switch to this medical, switch to
that medical.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
You know. He always had some that. That's the two
we all talk about.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Like actually, one of the ladies we worked with, Tracy Ruffis,
for a couple of weeks ago, she.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Calls me up.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
She called me because she figured, you know, so tight
with Miles that I would have the answer she's asking
me about.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
You know, when you go on Social Security and medicare
I go. That's the one thing I missed. You know.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
I would call up Miles and he would tell us
exactly what to do how to do it, you know,
and it was like and by the way, it was
always his way. He tried to convince me to switch
my medical coverage but at the same coverage Joe uses
and it was really good, you know, and unbelievable, unbelievable,
and he knew.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
About everything he was talking about. Yeah, you know, we
have a we have a club. And they used to joke,
you know, Miles would come in and all the guys
were retired.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Miles was the only one still working, right, Yeah, Miles
was the only one still working. And they would joke
they were trying to get there early because you know,
Miles always loved to speak about his job, and you know,
he loved it, loved it, you.
Speaker 15 (27:36):
Know, he would just tell stories and whoever sat next
to him a lecture in law enforcement that day, I
mean till the last time he came.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
You know. That was the thing.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I not to cut you off, Bub. I didn't think
he'd and we talked about this before we went on
the air. I didn't think he'd ever retire, like you know,
because he's he wasn't going to he was still doing it.
And it's one thing I mean, guys in general sometimes
you look at a guy, they hang around too long,
and the younger guys are like, when's this guy gonna go?
Because he's not performing the way he used to. Not Miles.
Miles was still in the thick of it, still performing
(28:06):
at top level as someone half his age. So this
was a guy. I mean, listen, he was retired. Was
not an option, because I think a pache was not
an option. I often joke that when he left Customs
and O six when he retired, I used that in
air chords because he really retired to name only.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
Yeah, well, he he loved it. The one thing he
always said was that his goal because both of his
children Mallory's and alcohol tobacco, firearms agent.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
And Mike is a homeless security Now I don't know
which one. I think he did a warrant at.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Once with Michael, he did something. His goal was to
make sure he did a warrant with his daughter, which
I guess he never fulfilled, you know. But and that's
another thing. He was so proud of his family.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
I mean, you know, they weren't gonna do anything other
than going to Lawrence.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
For no, that wasn't happening, and he just you know.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
And his wife Renee Sweetheart, and it's just so you know,
it's it's just so tough, you know, it's it's it's amazing.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
But like I said, you know, you talk about a
movie like it'll be a three year series. You know.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
I remember remember I remember being we were at a
briefing at the Metro Dad South Narcotics office. We've got
a cage were a controlled the liver. I was going
to drop a car off at at a restaurant in
Heilijah and the person would pick it up and then
they'd bring it back later with the money in it
and all that kind of stuff. So we're at the
briefing and we're all talking about we gotta be covert,
(29:39):
you know this Liah, they know the cars, we gotta
we gotta park in certain locations you can't be obvious.
And then walks Miles with you know, like a cut
off shirt, red red boots and these red Zuba pants.
His badge clipped onto us to the to the pants.
We're like that, the hell Miles, Miles, you stay in
(30:01):
the car like Miles if to him it was like
what there's what what?
Speaker 4 (30:06):
What? What?
Speaker 3 (30:07):
What's bad about this? We go out, go to the location.
Everybody's in in the in the thing. Okay, go in, Alex,
I go in. I dropped the car. I go to
the little caveasito. I'm standing there. The guy meets me.
I tell him it's that red Toyota. Okay, great, got it,
see you later here in an hour, so okay, great.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
The guy walks, Okay, he's in the car. They go off.
They go.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Later, I find out the guy crashes into the burger king.
Speaker 12 (30:34):
Uh you know the speaker where the drive room.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
He christ because he.
Speaker 12 (30:39):
Saw models standing outside.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
With two phones in his hand and his badge walking
walking around, and he's like, oh my god.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
They eventually got him.
Speaker 12 (30:48):
But so Miles is like, all right, we got.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Him, and he never was He was oblivious to the
fact that it was because of him that the whole
thing went.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Do you know, man, he was He led life.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
In New York. I joked about your New York. They
used his expression and I'm on the job right on
my phone. I used to call him Miles O. T
j Apostre on the jobs, and I still that's what
I had his name. Mother. It's because he job if
the job after job, you know, and he loved it.
And you know, he used to call him the connector.
I think because he used to connect it. That was
(31:24):
his job. He's the connector, you know. And listen with
my family, the kids, like when they.
Speaker 6 (31:29):
Were in high school, he's telling them to take you know,
the senior year, to do the dool and wrong, but
do this.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
He just said, like you said, he had so much.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
Knowledge and he just wouldn't stop, you know, like he
just for everybody.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
That's the way he was. Like I said, the heart
of goal, you know.
Speaker 8 (31:46):
And you know I hadn't mentioned what I gave his eulogy,
you know, like I said, it was really tough for
me to do. And I was telling the story Miles
is you know.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
They had what I said, about three hundred cops and
family and friends.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Who was pat So I get up there. Yeah, it
was so I get up there, you know, I speaking.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
And I said, you know, Miles' problem was he doing
what everybody was his friend.
Speaker 17 (32:15):
I said, I had to convince him that internal affairs
is not your friend trying to do you.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
And you know people got to kick out, but it
was the truth, you know, and he.
Speaker 19 (32:23):
Uh, it's just the things he did, like he didn't
he would just do.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
He was I just free spirited, is that the right word?
Like the way he worked. He was free spirited, like
it didn't matter what he did, you know, not that
he ever did anything wrong, but he was just he was.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
So happy, you know, happy, go lucky. You know, we
had an incident once. It was right after nine left,
and another one is not jobs. We had to go
interview because the government the blow building. We come back
and all whatever special response ting. They got tanks, they
got snipers, they got everything. And some guy gets in
my face and Miles is pretty calm. I very really
did ever see Miles.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
Get said, And this guy's in my face and he
you know, I don't work for this guy.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
I tell him nothing. So I almost lost it.
Speaker 17 (33:07):
I never saw Miles actually have to get in between
me to stop me.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
From maybe hitting this guy.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
And afterwards, you know, he's just then he becomes the priest,
you know, the Jewish priest.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Calm down, don't worry it, don't worry, you know. But
I mean, you can't say enough about the guy, you know.
He another thing.
Speaker 17 (33:25):
I had an old partner, Joe Penna, and he was
m hypd twenty.
Speaker 8 (33:29):
Years like from nineteen forty seven, like sixty seven, no timer, right,
and then he came to customs for twenty years.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
So Miles always said that, you know, he was going
to out do his career, which he did. Miles, you
know sixty nine, Joe was sixty eight and he'd retired.
But man, he's working. One thing.
Speaker 17 (33:50):
I will say, I had a really serious health issue
back in October, and that guy was there. He was
like the spokesman for me.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Had that picture too hick hospital. There it is.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Man and this guy. You know, I didn't walk.
Speaker 17 (34:04):
I was laid up for sixteen days before I had
After survey, Miles shows up and put.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Me in like walk up.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
So you know, Miles, we're walking around another lot, another
one come.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
On, and you know what, it was good because the
physical therapist didn't make me do that.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
So by the time I, you know, I got done,
comes in that's talking me in bed, fixing my these
things on my leg for my swelling.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
So we come back in the room and uh, this.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
Lady, one of the nurses, she goes, oh my god,
she goes, you guys have.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Great accents where you're from or from New York. And
now she was Caribbean. I go where are you from?
She goes to the islands, I go rykers, Miles goes,
He's back.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
He and that's that's a true friend right there, because
you know, we talked about that off there as well.
I mean, you know who your friends are. When it
hits the fan, it hit the fan. He's the one
that told me. He's the one that told me you
were in the hospital. You know, he really that's you know,
And when the chips were down, he was there. As
for you Alex, as for you Joe. But you know,
(35:09):
of course, in paying tribute to Miles, that to me
is the testament to his character right there. He was
there for you from the beginning.
Speaker 18 (35:16):
I said, it's a joke, I said, you know, I said,
you know, I can't think I was getting I had
like seven hundred messages on my phone. I turned it
on email. He was contacting everybody.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
I said.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
It got to a point when Miles contacted Hamasa in
the Taliban email.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
They said, Bob, don't worry. Miles said, you're doing good,
and I kind of ended.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
But that's you know, that was absolutely absolutely this is
a special addition.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
So I im way famed to knock on the door
and say, hey, this was a joke. I went away
for a couple of weeks. You know, I wish I
was honest. Yeah, it's not happening.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
But I got transferred over from the Border Patrol. I
came back to Miami. I was o reasonally from Miami
and my assignment was on the customs agent.
Speaker 12 (36:03):
First day, I'm as signed.
Speaker 20 (36:05):
To the Miles and another person, a boat captain who
really doesn't look like he's happy to be going out
with two because apparently Miles I just graduated ahead of me.
But Miles goes ahead and starts telling you know what
we need to do when we get on the boat.
Speaker 12 (36:21):
We have to do a pre check. I'm like, oh, okay,
and he's like showing you.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Where the oil to check the oil and dipsteak and
what to check for. And I'm like, man, I hope
that I can learn as much as this guy knows
in a short period of time, because he just got
on here and he knows everything about these boats. So
we sit down and we go out into the sea
at night, and where we just the guy anchors out.
Speaker 12 (36:47):
And he goes to sleep. So it's just me and Miles.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Sitting there waiting I guess we're waiting for a target
or something. We're just sitting there and Miles is talking
away about, you know, his life in the Border Patrol.
He had come from California where we're to know each other,
and and I'm thinking about the bolts.
Speaker 12 (37:03):
So something happens, we're we're gonna be okay.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Because I even though I grew up in Miami, I
didn't know a lot about, you know, operating boats. And Uh,
all of a sudden, there's a big freighter. We're in
an air where freighters are crossing, and it's coming right
to us. And I remember we had to take a class.
If it's a green light on one side, if it's a
red side on the other, we're gonna miss it. Whatever,
So I can't remember. It's like, Miles, you think, how
(37:29):
close is that thing gonna come to us? He goes,
I have no idea, I go, what we're not?
Speaker 12 (37:35):
No, I just got on the balls.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
The only thing I know is how to change the
oil on these things, how to check for the boil.
I'm like, oh, sorry, we are for it. And we're
like debating, do we wake this guy up?
Speaker 4 (37:47):
What's gonna happen? You know? I was ready to jump
off the boat.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
But luckily we woke the guy up and he goes, nah,
we're gonna miss it by a mile and he went
back to the bed and I was but, uh, that
was my Miles Bulls story. And I'm thinking here, I
am thinking he knows everything about the bullets.
Speaker 15 (38:05):
And you know, if you notice, I think I sent
you a picture of our center with Miles on the boat.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Everybody's wearing like, you know, gear to working, and Miles has.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Like, see if we have it. If it's not the
Google drive, hopefully it's in the queue because there's there's
a lot of pictures that came through. And if not,
I'll try to find it on the phone. This is
a special edition of The Beat Profiles and the Police Nationwide,
paying tribute to our friend today, Miles. So we lost
last year. I wanted to highlight this as well. Peter
Strowsky is actually gonna come on the show pretty soon.
He's saying hi to you guys. I know he was
(38:35):
Colie yours and I know he knew Miles very very well.
So good to see in the chat my friend to
see if I could find that picture, and there everybody in.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
Jeans you know, well the other guy who was a hillbilly.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
That's true. And Matt Miles has his designer that Miles.
Just check the oil glasses hand back. I could if
you flip through some pictures. I'm sure we.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Uh yeah, let's just well we'll find what pictures we
can't beause there's plenty of them in the cube. A. Yeah,
there we go.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
That was I think Lorenzo's yeah we get together.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
Yeah, before we did, that was that was a long
time ago.
Speaker 11 (39:16):
That was.
Speaker 6 (39:17):
Yeah, that was when he was mad that he couldn't
be as big as me and I was holding my daughter.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
It's a good way, like the shades, yep, yeah he does,
he does.
Speaker 17 (39:32):
Yeah, that was Joe and I.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Yeah, yeah, that's yeah, that was really Yeah, there's my.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
Hand yeah yeah Rene.
Speaker 17 (39:49):
Yeah, so this this was a funny story. Notice he's
wearing a hockey jacket. My it was Richie Shark's birthday.
Richie's on the show, right, Chuck, Well, you used to
work with and Sean O'Connor is the retired lieutenant.
Speaker 21 (40:04):
So we were at the we went for one of
then comes in full regale.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
You got the FDLE shirt. You know, he has the
ID cards on the side. You know, he's ready. He
looks like he's ready to take down.
Speaker 11 (40:18):
To the place.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Miles, don't stay by the bar. Why I'm not drinking,
I said, no, we are. You have a glass in
your hand and you have an fdle shirt on. That's
what we made him. Put on the uh.
Speaker 17 (40:33):
Florida water pand get.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
The small world because I think Sean O'Connor doesn't he
do security for you?
Speaker 4 (40:39):
So now he's back in a great guy.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Yeah, yeah, great to stand Lake cups four. I did it.
I'm a little jealous, but yeah, I have to reach
out to and I was. That's of course this memorial Cardiah. Yeah. Yeah,
when we went down to Mexico.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
That's the surety we haven't on the coats ten years later.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
So if you against the Superman two. Wow, this was
at my daughter's wedding.
Speaker 17 (41:14):
That's my buddy call who grew up with Miles, Joe
and the famous Poor Martinez.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
A fourth place woman.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Ah yes, yeah, that was.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
Tim Kennedy. He's a retired coup That was that. That
was one of the last few times Miles.
Speaker 11 (41:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Yeah, but else we got there, we got coffee shop.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
This is one of our coffee clubs get togethers.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Notice what Miles is sitting right at the head of
the table.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
That's it Holden Court.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Are you usual?
Speaker 22 (41:46):
Yeah, Simon, Joe, Okay, so this was the the white
T shirt on with Jason Rios. I don't know who
the other two soldiers this was in the Miles that
was my son, and they went to the war together
several times.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I had mentioned that right
that he was the one that was wounded.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
And Miles and Miles came to care of him and
found him. Yeah, found health care form and another moment
that spoke volumes about who he was.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
This man, I think that's Alex. Thank god, you can't
see me in the picture.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
We were young in the rare times. I were shorts
during the during the race, those short shorts in the eighties,
I guess.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Yeah, different time, a different time back then, at different
times stylistically for sure.
Speaker 17 (42:37):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
And then of course this is great.
Speaker 6 (42:39):
I get out of the hospital on the twenty sixth
at surgery on the twenty first major surgery.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
Get on the twenty six that is for Saturday. Get
out Monday. Miles says, you're going to vote early.
Speaker 5 (42:53):
Came to get me made me vote, and he was
gonna send this picture to Trump.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
He never got to he was he was gonna send
it this remember telling me that stories there's border patrols,
there's Miles Eastwood.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
That's when he was in the.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Border early early days. There's a lawenforcement.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
Taylor his shirts even back then.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yeah, leaps down everything.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
That's that's his other passion of coaching. He loved coaching baseball, and.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
That was you know, I guess, uh, of course we
got Bob and Alex here in the awards.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
Well, here's enough. This is the second one I got.
We show up a lunch and Miles comes in with these.
We had no idea. I mean that so good.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
It was the greatest gesture, Like amazing. He was able
to collect all our you know, prior agencies, all our
awards and recognitions and sort of like recap them into these.
Speaker 12 (43:48):
Awards just in front of our club.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
Yeah, we had no idea.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
So many great pictures. And here's him with going to gradu.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
Waited the that's his son, Mike. He was so proud
of that.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Oh yeah, ye. Law enforcement course ran the family and him.
Speaker 11 (44:06):
At the moment.
Speaker 4 (44:08):
But that's where we went that time with him in
the CF agent.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Ye been killed the line of duty. So many great
pictures with him. And here's another coffee shop boy boys, yeah, table, yeah, yeah,
this is well again the more family photos.
Speaker 21 (44:28):
That's uh right, that's his daughter and the husband Michael's.
Oh yes it's Michael. I think, well it's Michael's wife.
I'm not sure who the young girl is on the
far right. And the one I left is one of
his grandsons. Oh the actually, uh now we just have
a child.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
This was thinking before.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
Then you go to the next one, because there we go.
Speaker 4 (44:52):
Yeah, it is the coffee club again, and.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
That was where he was at his happiest. Really and
I never got the chance to meet Miles import in
person sat they but every photo you see, the common
theme is he's with his friends and family. That's when
he's got the biggest smile. He was a guy who
love life, but you could tell he was a guy
that especially loved his friends and family.
Speaker 4 (45:09):
Yes he did.
Speaker 23 (45:11):
Yeah, absolutely, Okay, So he was working with m M
y p D. That's Alex on the left, believe or
not walk who like who? Miles and we were actually
in our old neighborhood and baseide we went uh afterwards.
That was Billy o'harrow, who passed away right after Miles.
He was a PSO deputy and he's holding an we
wont a hundred dollars. Used to always sing the carrier.
Speaker 19 (45:35):
Yeah, those are two cops the other onestics.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
What else we got?
Speaker 4 (45:41):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (45:42):
So that was Joe Penna, who Miles wanted the top
in age, which he did.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
He broke that record. That's one I like that, one has.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
One even in COVID.
Speaker 12 (45:57):
He was.
Speaker 17 (45:59):
Ye, we had said his house, I believe because we
had somebody imposed the uh yeah, and Joe was stone
the only guy that.
Speaker 4 (46:07):
Was with.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Not the common team. And a lot of these photos too.
Speaker 6 (46:12):
This was one of the cases Miles calls me up
because you got to help me.
Speaker 4 (46:15):
It was only six you know. He just got everybody involved.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
No listen, he listened. He shared the ball, that's the thing.
He was like a point guard, lord general player.
Speaker 4 (46:28):
The acada. That's the kady Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Wow, it's cropping.
Speaker 4 (46:37):
Yeah, that's my That.
Speaker 12 (46:39):
Was Miles house.
Speaker 4 (46:41):
And that's Myles bold Wits. I was became the disco back.
Speaker 5 (46:45):
I said like the Italian, I said, your Miles.
Speaker 4 (46:50):
It's beautiful. He had a great love story, smile story.
I love it.
Speaker 12 (46:54):
I love that.
Speaker 4 (46:56):
Okay, this was the war.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
We didn't know we were getting.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
Get one.
Speaker 17 (47:00):
Yeah, that was that my retirement party.
Speaker 4 (47:07):
Everybody got dressed up. Miles was still on striking specs
to work. That was my.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
Retirement and that's yeah, fitting you got waits. For those
of you that are listening to this now watching on YouTube,
you have to wait. You got the badge you got
because I'll never forget the first time you came on
the show, Bob. That was the thing you told me.
It's like, you guys are living a real life version
of Miami Vice. And you were, and Miles was front
and center for a lot of that stuff with you
white pants.
Speaker 17 (47:33):
No, his son first became a brown chair and we
went to the graduation and he was so proud because.
Speaker 4 (47:40):
You know, you've been the on.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
That was definitely a moment.
Speaker 4 (47:45):
It was one of the yeah I saw that.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
I saw Lorenzo post. I'm like, yeah, I was saying
the same thing the other day. I'm like, you know,
kind of reminds me of that song Missus Robinson Paul Sidon,
where have you got Joe Demig You can change that
up to wherever you on Miles Son. You know, sure
you said, guy right about now, I guess that kind
of brings us into I guess, you know, I'll never forget.
I open up Facebook of all things I usually do
because I'm always doing projects for the show, and it
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just happened and open and I see Lorenzo's post, and
and I'm thinking it's some like you said earlier, it's
some stick joke. And I'm like, oh, hold on, hold
on a minute. And I hadn't been feeling my best
that day, so I'm like, yeah, maybe I'm seeing things
they might need to go lad down. I'm like, let
me call Lorenzo and let me figure out it's just true.
And Lorenzo says, I guess you heard. And I'm like,
the moment he sat all the way and can get it.
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I know you guys felt that all the way down
in Flora. So just briefly, like I said, this is
in the somber show where we live in the happy
memories of Miles life. But just that day when you
guys heard, where were you guys?
Speaker 6 (48:46):
So I was still recuperating, you know, from my surgery,
and it was my daughters.
Speaker 8 (48:52):
It was like going with the grandkids, and I was
taking it that in my daughter's on thousands and my
son looked.
Speaker 6 (49:02):
He was a lieutenant with Hollywood. One of the guys
that used to work in Hollywood became an FDL E agent.
So he calls Chuck because he knows how close I
was to Miles. He goes, hey, there's a group chat
and uh, they're saying Miles passed away. I go care
that he had like kind of like you know, I said,
let me make some calls. Well, I tried calling Miles,
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which spoke to my five times to day.
Speaker 4 (49:27):
He didn't answer, which was normal because he had another five.
Speaker 6 (49:30):
Thousand people he talked to. And he didn't answer. No,
I even left the voice message. Then I tried to
calling his son. His son didn't answer, and then five
minutes later, my son in law walks out and he said, yeah,
they confirmed, And he was like, and I remember talking
to Mallory's daughter that night rather a few times just
(49:50):
I just you know, my modeling.
Speaker 10 (49:55):
Joe, I was in New York and I got the
call from Yeah.
Speaker 4 (50:02):
Alex and me too, Bob, Bob let me know, and
I couldn't. I just couldn't believe it.
Speaker 3 (50:07):
It's like wait a minute, I just I just we
exchanged the texts earlier in the day, like what happened.
Speaker 4 (50:12):
It can't be.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
It's just you know, life, life passes my right and
and we know these things happened, and but it's just like, uh,
I don't know. I always think of Miles like that,
and I choose I had forgotten. I didn't want to
think about that daymore. I choose to remember him, you know,
in the good sense. I tend to do that. I
didn't do it with my brother. I don't remember that day.
(50:36):
I just remember everything else before. And that's what I
tend to do. But it's a tribute, right like, and
I'm glad that we're doing this to be able to
keep his memory alive. And I know he lives on
a lot of people's hearts and and and and thoughts
and memories, and uh, he's the he's a good person
(50:56):
to remember that way, Like Miles best Man, he so
many agents that he meantor.
Speaker 4 (51:05):
Just the goodness of him and what he did.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
You know, it was nothing to get a call for Miles,
like hey, you know, tell this guy to put it
for this job.
Speaker 12 (51:16):
He's always looking after his son as well, like hey,
hell for this job that's opening now.
Speaker 3 (51:24):
Always always always looking enough people, just always that way,
not not not a.
Speaker 12 (51:31):
Malicious bone in his body. He never was that tope
of guy, always with good intentions.
Speaker 1 (51:38):
Oh of course. And you know the thing that I
thought about it, you know, when I was processing the
news myself down here, is he came in like a firecracker.
He'd led life like a firecracker, and he left us
like a firecracker, you know. And that's to your point, Alex,
that's it's kind of a beautiful life for him in
the sense that, of course we wish he was still here,
but will always have the memory of him at the
(51:58):
top of his game. There is never you know, if
you look about it, if you think about it. I'm
not just saying this because he's gone. I felt this
way about him at the time when he was still
with us. He's a tom Brady law enforcement What do
we remember Tom Brady's career? As Tom Brady came in
on top, he left on top. He never had a
fade in his play. Same thing with the guy like
Miles Miles in his life and his career, everything he did,
he was always top shelf. He was always top level,
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and he left us with some wonderful memories to wear.
You know, like you said earlier, Bob, not a single
guy or girl who met him over the years has
a bad word to say about him. There's nothing that
we look at and say. And sometimes we have this
with people that we love. I had this with my grandfather.
Oh towards the end, it was a little rough. They
were declining, not with Miles. Miles, like I said of
the intro, gave us sixty nine great years of life
(52:42):
that started wonderfully. And you know, again, we wish he
was still here, but we never ever saw him anything
less than his best.
Speaker 4 (52:48):
I got that one funny story. I totally forgot hibout this.
While we were in college. We took a ride up
state my grandparents or stuff mountains.
Speaker 6 (52:58):
So it was me, Miles, and my buddy Call and
I think there was one other one.
Speaker 4 (53:03):
So we go into this little town and you know,
during the summer.
Speaker 8 (53:06):
It's packed with you know, residents from the city come up,
you know, and then what they used to the all
year round us.
Speaker 4 (53:12):
So you come into this town.
Speaker 8 (53:13):
It's a little post office, a bar, like a couple,
you know, like the grocery type stores maybe two.
Speaker 5 (53:19):
So what happened was I don't know what happened, but
we look at it wanted posters.
Speaker 16 (53:25):
You know, there's a poster on. This is nineteen seventy six.
So there's a guy in on the post that looks
like Miles.
Speaker 4 (53:32):
So right, so we see some kid looking at us.
Speaker 6 (53:34):
He comes out, Miles comes out and he says to
the kid, hey, and.
Speaker 5 (53:39):
The kid's looking at Miles's like, give you five bucks
my posters on the wall?
Speaker 4 (53:44):
Can you take it off? Like he's a kid?
Speaker 5 (53:46):
Pre John Balucci when he went in the house, you know,
tiptoeing the kids looks rips out, the thing comes running back.
Speaker 4 (53:54):
Hand Smiles of the post that Miles gave me five bucks.
Speaker 11 (53:58):
Right.
Speaker 5 (53:58):
And the other thing I had to say his mom, Sally.
I remember her from the YMCA where we used to
work out. She'd swims.
Speaker 4 (54:05):
She was like him in the gym three times a
day swimming this that.
Speaker 6 (54:09):
So one day I had a tent top on and
she saw I had a tattoo on my own.
Speaker 4 (54:13):
Oh did she give me?
Speaker 11 (54:14):
Hell?
Speaker 4 (54:14):
Oh you're Jewish, You're not supposed to.
Speaker 5 (54:16):
Have a tattoo. This went on for about three weeks.
Finally the third week, I said, Sally doing me a failure.
When your son comes home from the border patrol, pull
his pants down and look on.
Speaker 4 (54:26):
His thighs, see what he has on his thigh. And
then when she did it to Myles, he never let
me live that down. She found out he had one,
and I gave him up.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
Oh my goodness, and I did. That's another story I'm
hearing for the first time either, because all these conversations
we had, that's the first time out fittingly on the
show go to hear a story like that. And that's
that's the cool thing about Miles' career, you know. Start
he never got complacent either. If you notice the trend
of his career. All right, he did border patrol for
a bit. Border patrol is a great place. You know,
you could stay there your whole career. Do twenty five
(54:57):
thirty years have a lot of stories to tell. He
moved around, you know, he really squeezed as much as
he could. And if you're looking at it, I mean
his life as a whole. That was the trend. But
speaking strictly in his career terms, he squeezed as much
as he could. I every job he had, no wonder
he enjoyed them so much. And again it sounds cliche.
When you love what you do, you never work a
day in your life. That man never worked, never worked,
(55:18):
never worked, you know. And I'm glad to see his
family in the chat here of course, on the career
and on the caer side, and his family by blood,
his daughter's watch. And I mentioned Peter Strawski earlier. I
don't know how the connection to this gentleman. I'm glad
he's here, Abam kooner. If I'm pronouncing that correctly, I apologize.
Speaker 4 (55:35):
Oh, Tracy, that's a dog.
Speaker 5 (55:37):
That's all good friend, Tracy, that must be a dog gamer.
Speaker 4 (55:40):
I recognized the last name.
Speaker 1 (55:43):
There you go, he says. He Miles, or she says,
Miles knew everything. He was the best. That's the thing too.
He's a jack of all trades man. Like he said earlier,
there wasn't anything he really didn't know about or had
his hands involved it.
Speaker 5 (55:55):
Oh, trust you get medicine. He'd call him up when
I need to know what the doctor put you on.
To tell him I'm on the toporol for blood pressure,
he says. Five minutes later, he calls me back and
sends me a link. All right, that's used by Navy
seals snipers in the delta force that slows your heart
rate down.
Speaker 4 (56:11):
You're good, okay, Miles.
Speaker 19 (56:12):
I know Miles said that was good, not my cardiologist, Miles.
Speaker 1 (56:18):
You know I had the chance and the hours flown by.
You know, we could be here talking all day about Miles.
But you know I had the chance to ask him
this when he was on the show for his own
show and then we came back with you Alex for
the Operation Orbital loadcase, which was again two phenomenal episodes,
to ask him, Hey, what advice would you give the
next generation? So, if you have a beacon and it
doesn't matter what aspect of law enforcement you're working at,
(56:40):
federal or local, if you have a beacon of how
you want your career to be, it would be Miles Son.
So I'll give it to three of you and we'll
put the bow on it with this. If you could
offer advice on how to model yourself after a guy
like that for those that are trying to get on
the job. What's a piece of advice you could take
from Miles and how he did his career and how
he lived his life over and give it to these
(57:01):
young guys and girls that need to hear it. Mob
will start with you.
Speaker 4 (57:04):
Oh thanks.
Speaker 8 (57:07):
First of all, you know, being retired and you know,
and I think he realized his years went by that
the family was important, grandkids.
Speaker 4 (57:16):
You know me personally, you know, you do your time, you.
Speaker 8 (57:20):
Get out, you have a great career, and like I said,
especially with me, you know, it's a miracle.
Speaker 4 (57:26):
I'm Sydney here right now. So I'm glad.
Speaker 17 (57:28):
You know, I just wish he would have enjoyed, like
on the benefits of his you know, his retirement to
his social security.
Speaker 4 (57:37):
Uh you know, we were under a different social security.
He went full.
Speaker 6 (57:41):
Act and when he passed he was a big advocate,
push and pushing and then now you know we got
to bump.
Speaker 4 (57:46):
He never had to enjoy those things. I would say,
do your career. You know, your family is so important.
You know, had the best time you could have and
come home, and like I said, retirement's important because you
don't know when that day's happy. Yeah, Joe, be true
to yourself and believe in what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (58:07):
He sure did.
Speaker 3 (58:08):
A that's good advice, bro, and it's true, and I agree.
You know, I guess you have hindsight after you've gone
through the career and retired for some time and had
time to think about and you know.
Speaker 4 (58:21):
Go back and evaluate what you've done. Right.
Speaker 3 (58:24):
So I think my advice would be the same, right,
be true to yourself. You know, make time for your family.
A lot of us didn't while we were in on
the job with just the job was the life. But
if I could have, if that's the one piece of
advice I would give is to balance that life, balance
that work life, and make sure you give time to
your family.
Speaker 4 (58:44):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (58:44):
And I think that that's a big takeaway and a
more humorous note. Like Miles, if you're trying to do
law enforcement, or if you're like me, if you're trying
to be a fireman, hit the gym and never stop.
Hit the gym. That man was a unit and could
probably take somebody half his and you know, listen to
give me one of these UFC guys a run for
their money for sure. So that's my little contribution at
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the end of this program. Guys, this was fantastic. Again,
it's great to see all three a you. Again. I
wish it was under better circumstances, but like we said,
I didn't want to make this a sad show. I
wanted to make this a happy show, and it was.
We really got to relive the memories of a wonderful
guy who contributed and put out a lot of good
in this world, and the world is certainly an emptier
place without him having Without having him in it, I
(59:27):
never even got to know the guy personally, but just
communicating in with social media all the time. I never
got to meet him in person, that is, communicating with
him over the phone, communicating him with him over social media.
He had a profound impact on my life, so I
can only imagine the impact that he had on yours,
and I got a glimpse of that into this program.
So I'm so glad we did this. I'm so glad
all you tuned in. And for those of you specifically
(59:50):
from Miles's family, I just want to say, your dad,
your husband, was a mention. He was always so good
to me in a big advocate and supporter of the
work I was doing. And I will never forget him.
I'll always be grateful to him. And I know I
can speak for everybody here today, Producer, Victor, Alex, Joe,
and Bob when I say our lives were better for
having known this titan of a guy. So thank you
(01:00:10):
very much. And you know again this was this was
quite the show. So any last words before I say
goodbye to the audience. Guys, the floor is yours.
Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
I got one question answer.
Speaker 6 (01:00:18):
We're thinking about making a annual Miles Sawn Award, but
the critic criteria is gonna have to be like what.
Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
We're gonna have Joe structure.
Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Script Yep, yep, I'm in agreeance.
Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
I just want to say thank you for allowing us
to come on this and using your platform to they
just talk about Miles.
Speaker 4 (01:00:42):
This feels good just to do it, so thank you
so much, God.
Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
Bless thank you very much. It's an honor. I'm glad
you called me, Bob. When I told this to Victor,
who's backstage. As soon as you called me, I was
like yes, and before you even finished the sense, I'm like, yep,
gotta do it. I'm glad we finally got on the calendar.
Speaker 6 (01:00:59):
Youand I keep on hearing voices. Bob, shut up, don't
say too much, don't talk to easy, Bob. I'm telling
you he's listening, so you know he's holy.
Speaker 4 (01:01:08):
What security.
Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
For sure? For sure, So thanks to all of you
who tuned in again and for those of you that
are going to listen to this again. It's a it's
a great tribute to a great guy. It's a second
tribute show we've done. The previous one, you may remember,
was with Caitlyn Lango and whose father was Tommy Lango
and he was an emergency service cop who gave his
life on nine to eleven. So we're looking to do
more shows like this. You know, just look back on
these people. We know how they die, but as I
(01:01:34):
always say on this program, it's important to remember them
for how they lived. And boyd did Miles Sun live
quite a life. So thanks again for all of you
who tuned in. Coming up next to the Mike the
New Event Podcast, it'll be another early interview Wednesday morning.
I'm excited about it. It's gonna be a Boomer Siason,
former NFL MVP, currently on the NFL on CBS, and
of course he hosts Boomer and g O on w
(01:01:55):
f A n in New York City, So that'll be Wednesday,
right after he gets done doing f AN, they'll come
on this show and in the meantime, again, thanks to
all you tuned in and on behalf of a jokestone,
Alex Alonzo, Bob Starkman, all of you in the audience,
and producer Victor. I am my cologne, and we will
see you next time. Myles Son, my friend, we miss you,
we remember you, and thank you again for the impact
(01:02:15):
of that in our lives.
Speaker 24 (01:02:20):
And now the end is here, and so I face
the final cursain, my friend.
Speaker 11 (01:02:35):
I'll say it clear.
Speaker 24 (01:02:38):
I'll stay my case, of which I'm certain.
Speaker 4 (01:02:45):
I've lived.
Speaker 11 (01:02:48):
A life that's fool.
Speaker 24 (01:02:51):
I traveled each and every highway, and more.
Speaker 11 (01:03:00):
Much more than this, I did it my way. Regrets.
I've had a few, but then again.
Speaker 24 (01:03:19):
Too few to mention.
Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
I did what I had to do, saw it through.
Speaker 24 (01:03:32):
Without exemption.
Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
I planned each charted course, each capitul step along the
by way.
Speaker 24 (01:03:49):
More much more than this, I did it my.
Speaker 11 (01:03:58):
Way.
Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
Yes, there were times, I'm sure you knew when I
bit off more than I could chew.
Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
But do it all.
Speaker 11 (01:04:16):
When there was gone, I ate it up and spid
it all.
Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
I placed it all, and I stood all and did
it my.
Speaker 11 (01:04:36):
Way.
Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
I've loved, I've laughed and cried.
Speaker 11 (01:04:44):
I've had my fill, my share.
Speaker 24 (01:04:48):
Of losing and the knoll, it's tears subside. I find
it all so amusing.
Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
To think I did all that, And may I say.
Speaker 4 (01:05:13):
Not in a shy.
Speaker 24 (01:05:14):
Way, Oh no, oh no, not.
Speaker 11 (01:05:23):
I did it my way forward.
Speaker 6 (01:05:29):
Is a man what has he got if not himself?
Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
Then he has not to say.
Speaker 4 (01:05:42):
The usually fails.
Speaker 11 (01:05:48):
I'm not the.
Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Word I need.
Speaker 11 (01:05:55):
Show and where, Yes, it was my whe