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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Morning, Hasbrook, and on this morning we are tasting the
Boujolais Nouveaux for the first time thanks to Matt Rhodes
and Jim Cash Matt at Dustysellar dot com, who is
reopening the wine bar as of this Friday. So if
you're in the Lansing area and you want to check
that out, please do and get a bottle of Boujolais
(00:38):
for less than twenty dollars. He says, it's a good
one and it's a harbinger of the holidays for sure.
I got I have to laugh when we talk about
a nice restaurant like the Wine Bar. And of course
Jim Cash and Matt Rhodes have very refined palettes. I
wanted to play for them. This clip of Donald Trump
this week speaking at a Saudi for him about his
(00:59):
favorite type food. Here he was waxing eloquent. Well, we
have a little issue with the audio. That's okay. I'll
just tell you that he loves McDonald's and he loves
the file of fish sandwich. Okay. Moving along, Michael Patrick
with you. A man who also got some food gifted
to him, Pope Leo, Illinois Governor JB. Pritzker went there
(01:21):
and he brought some craft beer from North Center's Burning
Bush Brewery, and it's a former pastor who operates that brewery,
and Pope Leo said, quote, we'll put these in the
fridge when he received the beer. There were a lot
of Hollywood celebrities also visiting with the Pope earlier this week.
(01:41):
And then the Pope also talked about the immigration policies
once again in the United States. And you know, he
speaks in a general sense about the United States immigration policy.
But then the people who crafted into the media try
to say that he's attacking the President Donald Trump verbally.
Jace Bolger is the president and CEO of the West
(02:03):
Michigan Policy Forum, former Speaker of the House and on
our radio stage, and a devout Catholic. What is if
you wouldn't mind your reaction to this West Michigan educated
American pope these days as he walks the line of politics,
beer drinking, and being a White Sox fan.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
And one good morning, Michael Patrick. You know what's interesting.
I have visited the Vatican and noticed a substantial wall
around the Vatican and security that you had to go
in in order to get into the Vatican, so they
were checking people coming in to provide for their security.
So I did find that interesting, and you point out
he's speaking very generally, and yet people try to then
(02:45):
twist that to fit the narratives that they want.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
That's how it seems to me. And they put words
in his mouth, and I was afraid that was going
to happen when there was an American quote unquote American
pope who became the Holy Father. But you know what
do I knowing? By the way, that's interesting that you
bring up the walls around the Vatican because one of
the churches I think it was Pope Francis that like
to go to was Saint Something outside the walls. I
(03:10):
forget the actual name of it, but that's part of
the name of it, outside the walls. And if you
saw shoes of the fishermen, remember how the Nazis couldn't
come across the line that was Vatican City and the
Pope would walk right up to the line and talk
with them. So there is history of a border. And
you know, one of the world's smallest countries quote unquote principalities,
(03:33):
that's right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, there is. And you can't be a country without
a border.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
There was once a movie called Escape from New York.
I wonder if that's going to be modern reality. Now.
I see the President's going to meet with the newly
elected mayor this week. Wouldn't you like to be a
fly on the wall in that meeting?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, we might get the chance. He has a tendency though,
to bring in the cameras for the show, so we
must see what's going on.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
He's going to get the Zelenski treatment probably, well, you know,
you never know.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
It'll be curious because he's from New York. He just
won election, so he won and he's plain talking. At
least he's eloquent, and so we'll see whether Trump appreciates
that or whether he wants to spar over the policies,
because I think there's a lot to be concerned about
the policy. So I think you're right. There's people already
have fled from New York City and a lot of
(04:28):
them are going to southern Florida. And we'll see what
happens if his policies take hold. But you can see
a whole lot more fleame.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Well. In fairness, now we have people who want us
to sign a ballot proposal here in Michigan that could
cause people also to go streaming for the exits, let
alone trying to attract new business as I understand it.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, that's right. And you just had Rick Scott, former
governor of Florida, in visiting Michigan and speaking of Florida
and the New York again, that is exactly what he
shared is as other communities other states have done bad
things with taxes, done things with taxes, they have seen
people flood to Florida because capital is mobile people. And
(05:13):
really he made a very good point that the wealthier,
the people with income, aren't the ones that are hurt.
They move, it's the people who are left behind. They
move and not just take their business and their opportunities,
they take their philanthropy with them. They take a lot
of support and engagement in their communities with them. And
so what they leave behind doesn't hurt the wealthy, they've
(05:33):
gone elsewhere. Who it hurts are those who are left there,
and in many cases that's the poor. And so we've
got a proposal in Michigan that would more than double
the income tax that would be paid chiefly by small businesses.
It wouldn't fix the schools. There's no guarantee you would
fix the schools, and so it would be damaging on
all fronts. And I think it's kind of an issue
(05:56):
that while people try to frame it as tax the
rich sign to fix the schools, it does anything but
what they say. And so if your listeners are approached
with this, I would encourage them to very strongly declined
to sign and make sure they tell their friends and
family to do.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
The same, as did Ronald McDaniel earlier this week to
us from Forward Michigan, the former chair of the Republican
National Committee. It's not really a part ofan issue though,
it's a practical issue. And we had yesterday too Jeff
Donofrio from business leaders from Michigan who said, look, our
education system, no matter who the governor is, needs to
(06:34):
be remade. We're not getting any return on investment or
very little.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Well that's right, yeah, our funding is way up, our
textpayers are paying more over, our kids are getting left.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Okay, you heard it straight from the former Speaker of
the House. The current Speaker of the House is coming later,
but Jace Boulder, do you have tickets for the opening
of Act your sure amphitheater on May fifteenth? With Verve
Pipe and Lionel Ritchie.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Well, I don't yet, but I'll be buying for him.
I'll try and find something.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Okay, that'd be good to sit next to you there,
that's for sure. War and Treaty will be there too.
The Michigan group that's been singing national anthems at the
Lions game and on Monday Night football, Congratulations Grand Rapids.
That's going to be one beautiful entertainment venue. And let's
hope the weather on May fifteenth, you know, cooperates. MPs
back in a flash
Morning, Hasbrook, and on this morning we are tasting the
Boujolais Nouveaux for the first time thanks to Matt Rhodes
and Jim Cash Matt at Dustysellar dot com, who is
reopening the wine bar as of this Friday. So if
you're in the Lansing area and you want to check
that out, please do and get a bottle of Boujolais
(00:38):
for less than twenty dollars. He says, it's a good
one and it's a harbinger of the holidays for sure.
I got I have to laugh when we talk about
a nice restaurant like the Wine Bar. And of course
Jim Cash and Matt Rhodes have very refined palettes. I
wanted to play for them. This clip of Donald Trump
this week speaking at a Saudi for him about his
(00:59):
favorite type food. Here he was waxing eloquent. Well, we
have a little issue with the audio. That's okay. I'll
just tell you that he loves McDonald's and he loves
the file of fish sandwich. Okay. Moving along, Michael Patrick
with you. A man who also got some food gifted
to him, Pope Leo, Illinois Governor JB. Pritzker went there
(01:21):
and he brought some craft beer from North Center's Burning
Bush Brewery, and it's a former pastor who operates that brewery,
and Pope Leo said, quote, we'll put these in the
fridge when he received the beer. There were a lot
of Hollywood celebrities also visiting with the Pope earlier this week.
(01:41):
And then the Pope also talked about the immigration policies
once again in the United States. And you know, he
speaks in a general sense about the United States immigration policy.
But then the people who crafted into the media try
to say that he's attacking the President Donald Trump verbally.
Jace Bolger is the president and CEO of the West
(02:03):
Michigan Policy Forum, former Speaker of the House and on
our radio stage, and a devout Catholic. What is if
you wouldn't mind your reaction to this West Michigan educated
American pope these days as he walks the line of politics,
beer drinking, and being a White Sox fan.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
And one good morning, Michael Patrick. You know what's interesting.
I have visited the Vatican and noticed a substantial wall
around the Vatican and security that you had to go
in in order to get into the Vatican, so they
were checking people coming in to provide for their security.
So I did find that interesting, and you point out
he's speaking very generally, and yet people try to then
(02:45):
twist that to fit the narratives that they want.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
That's how it seems to me. And they put words
in his mouth, and I was afraid that was going
to happen when there was an American quote unquote American
pope who became the Holy Father. But you know what
do I knowing? By the way, that's interesting that you
bring up the walls around the Vatican because one of
the churches I think it was Pope Francis that like
to go to was Saint Something outside the walls. I
(03:10):
forget the actual name of it, but that's part of
the name of it, outside the walls. And if you
saw shoes of the fishermen, remember how the Nazis couldn't
come across the line that was Vatican City and the
Pope would walk right up to the line and talk
with them. So there is history of a border. And
you know, one of the world's smallest countries quote unquote principalities,
(03:33):
that's right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, there is. And you can't be a country without
a border.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
There was once a movie called Escape from New York.
I wonder if that's going to be modern reality. Now.
I see the President's going to meet with the newly
elected mayor this week. Wouldn't you like to be a
fly on the wall in that meeting?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, we might get the chance. He has a tendency though,
to bring in the cameras for the show, so we
must see what's going on.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
He's going to get the Zelenski treatment probably, well, you know,
you never know.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
It'll be curious because he's from New York. He just
won election, so he won and he's plain talking. At
least he's eloquent, and so we'll see whether Trump appreciates
that or whether he wants to spar over the policies,
because I think there's a lot to be concerned about
the policy. So I think you're right. There's people already
have fled from New York City and a lot of
(04:28):
them are going to southern Florida. And we'll see what
happens if his policies take hold. But you can see
a whole lot more fleame.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Well. In fairness, now we have people who want us
to sign a ballot proposal here in Michigan that could
cause people also to go streaming for the exits, let
alone trying to attract new business as I understand it.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, that's right. And you just had Rick Scott, former
governor of Florida, in visiting Michigan and speaking of Florida
and the New York again, that is exactly what he
shared is as other communities other states have done bad
things with taxes, done things with taxes, they have seen
people flood to Florida because capital is mobile people. And
(05:13):
really he made a very good point that the wealthier,
the people with income, aren't the ones that are hurt.
They move, it's the people who are left behind. They
move and not just take their business and their opportunities,
they take their philanthropy with them. They take a lot
of support and engagement in their communities with them. And
so what they leave behind doesn't hurt the wealthy, they've
(05:33):
gone elsewhere. Who it hurts are those who are left there,
and in many cases that's the poor. And so we've
got a proposal in Michigan that would more than double
the income tax that would be paid chiefly by small businesses.
It wouldn't fix the schools. There's no guarantee you would
fix the schools, and so it would be damaging on
all fronts. And I think it's kind of an issue
(05:56):
that while people try to frame it as tax the
rich sign to fix the schools, it does anything but
what they say. And so if your listeners are approached
with this, I would encourage them to very strongly declined
to sign and make sure they tell their friends and
family to do.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
The same, as did Ronald McDaniel earlier this week to
us from Forward Michigan, the former chair of the Republican
National Committee. It's not really a part ofan issue though,
it's a practical issue. And we had yesterday too Jeff
Donofrio from business leaders from Michigan who said, look, our
education system, no matter who the governor is, needs to
(06:34):
be remade. We're not getting any return on investment or
very little.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Well that's right, yeah, our funding is way up, our
textpayers are paying more over, our kids are getting left.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Okay, you heard it straight from the former Speaker of
the House. The current Speaker of the House is coming later,
but Jace Boulder, do you have tickets for the opening
of Act your sure amphitheater on May fifteenth? With Verve
Pipe and Lionel Ritchie.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Well, I don't yet, but I'll be buying for him.
I'll try and find something.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Okay, that'd be good to sit next to you there,
that's for sure. War and Treaty will be there too.
The Michigan group that's been singing national anthems at the
Lions game and on Monday Night football, Congratulations Grand Rapids.
That's going to be one beautiful entertainment venue. And let's
hope the weather on May fifteenth, you know, cooperates. MPs
back in a flash
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