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December 22, 2025 7 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:33):
I don't know where it's gone a job again.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
So I found a cat on the loose, and that's
very dangerous most of the time. But I'm happy to
see her because it's holiday week, it's a holiday month,
and really life can be a holiday all the time
if you want it to be. But she is kat Zamudo,
and you find her podcast Cat on the Loose. That's
why I said that. It's with a cat by the way,
and we're sitting outside a place. Let me set the

(01:04):
scene for you. We're on a busy street. Holiday lights
are up, and inside the door of this yellow restaurant
called Dantanna's, there are people and they're having drinks and
they're being convivial, and they're eating pasta and they're talking,
and some of them know each other, and some of
them are meeting each other and they're having conversation. Some

(01:24):
of them secretly are lonely, though, aren't they for sure?
They wouldn't tell you that, though, would they?

Speaker 1 (01:30):
You know, Well, it depends. Some people actually do. Say,
you know, this time of the year, like, doesn't anybody
ever call your radio show and say Hi, I'm lonely?
Because people who send me messages saying it's such a
lonely time of the year. I don't know what to
do with myself. So yeah, I think this is the
time that people actually, you know, blurt it out.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
You talk about relationships on your podcast Cat on the Loose.
You can find it wherever you find podcasts and YouTube, etc.
You know, there's a song, it's Louis Armstrong, What a
Wonderful World. I love that song And in the lyric
he says friends shaking hands saying how do you do
They're really saying I love you in the way that

(02:08):
they can do it. What about the opposite, though, how
do we watch for our brothers and sisters and friends
and people who are reaching out to say I'm lonely
during the holidays.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, so this is what I would say. If you
are feeling longed in holidays, the worst thing you can
do is like literally isolate yourself at home, because it's
just gonna increase that feeling. Put yourself out there, like
my mama used to say, pull yourself by the bootstraps,
make an effort and go out and about because guess what,
there are a lot of people out there feeling the
same way. So, for example, find out like a new

(02:42):
coffee shop in your neighborhood, you know, like our restaurant,
Even if you don't want to spend money, like buy
a nice tea, buy a coffee and see it. Take
your computer during the day, you might be shocked. Usually
there are a lot of people with the same vibe
and you might end up making new friends and you know,
might surprise you.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
There's an old phrase too, called if you want to
be a friend, or if you want to get a friend,
be a friend. Volunteering at this time of year can
put you in some very interesting circles as well, and
also give you a perspective.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Oh my god, I love that you said that my focus.
I completely agree with you. That's another thing I was
going to say. If you don't have a family, like
I know a lot of people don't like I don't.
I only have a sister and a nephew in Florida,
So like this holiday, I'm alone. So this is exactly
what I do. Find out the closest shelter to you
and just go out there, yeah, because it's gonna warm

(03:34):
up your heart and you're gonna be surrounded by a
lot of love.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
What's a good icebreaker to speak to someone when you're
intimidated to when you're afraid to ask someone maybe you
want to say hello, you're worried they're gonna reject you,
or think maybe you're hitting on them, or what it
might be.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Smile, that's a smile. I always say, if you smile
more the world, it's you a different way. Just it
breaks the eyes.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
A smile is the great ambassador.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Isn't it at least to me? Because I like when
I walk around, I see so many people, like so
serious and of course we all have problems that we're
so stressed out. But sometimes you open a big smile
and that person, like you know, changes the way they
treat you, and they might smile back.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
I might suggest to you also in the book that
I wrote to travel Tattler and in other articles too,
a smile might be the sum of your conversation with
that person. In other words, yeah, that might be all
you have. You smile, they smile, and then that's it.
But it was a fun and meaningful moment.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yes exactly. So it sounds really silly, right, but like
these baby steps, because I think when people are feeling lonely,
of course you're focusing on the loneliness. Right, so you
keep repeating that I'm alone, I'm so lonely, I'm so
lone So of course that increases. But if you put
yourself out there and you shift the mindset and you say,
you know, let me try to smile, let me help

(05:04):
somebody else, maybe I'm going to meet somebody who is
in the same situation that I am. All of a sudden,
you're feeling better, and you might make new friends and
totally change the energy around your holidays.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
I'll give you an example. Sense it's the holidays. I
was wearing my sometimes a red blazer. You know you've
seen me in that, Yeah, And I was walking up
the street and there was a woman coming the other
way and she was very stylish. And as she was
approaching me and we were going to pass the only
two people on the street, all I said was stylish
and all she said was likewise, and we kept on going,

(05:38):
and I'm like, that was really cool.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
I love that as well, Like small gestures of kindness
walking down the street, if you see somebody looking sad
or too serious, if you can make a compliment, it
literally can change their day. So yes, it doesn't matter
how bad you feel about yourself, or if you having
a tough day, if you're walking around and you see
a beautiful woman or somebody dressed up, you notice that

(06:01):
somebody did their nails or their hair, pass on the
love and it just gets back to you. So I
love that suggestion and I do that all the time.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
By the way, very nice. Father Jake Folio was a
frequent guest on our program. He was a ninety year
old Italian priest, and he said, never ever pass another
human being without acknowledging, even if it's just a nod
of the head, don't look the other way.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Totally look smile or yeah, at least look at the
person and I yeah, and honestly, giving a stranger compliment.
I do that all the time, and when I see
they open a big smile, say oh my god, thank you.
Like a lady walking to work and you notice you
put a lot of effort on her outfit. Yeah, and
you say, oh, whether you look so beautiful. I love

(06:44):
your jacket, I love your shoes. All of a sudden,
you change the tomb for her entire day.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Why do we find that cat on the loose? It's
Cat with a K podcast. It's one of the most
listened to and viewed podcasts in the world.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Oh thank you, Michael find can on the Lose on
all platforms and your entire podcast, Apple Podcast, Spotify, and
yes we have video episodes on YouTube. And I hope
everybody has an amazing holiday season. And if you are
feeling lonely, put yourself out there, don't stay home alone.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Put on a happy face.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yes, so you don't have a face, and it might
change your mood. Yeah for sure.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Kat on the Loose podcast Michaelpatrick Shields And there she
goes off into the night, morning, day. You can get
her anytime in year.
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