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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Live across the Great Lake State. You're connected to Michigan's
most engaging and influential radio and television program, Michigan's Big
Show starring Michael Patrick Shields, presented by Blue Cross, Blue
Shield Michigan and Blue Care Network.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
I'm producer and creative director Tony Cuthberts.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Now in the shadow of the Capitol Dome and Lansing.
He's heard from the beaches of Lake Michigan, to the
halls of power and behind closed doors. Here's Michigan's Michael
Patrick Shields.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Oh it's snow. Isn't that wonderful? I never felt so
much like Christmas in all my life.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
Don't you share it?

Speaker 5 (00:43):
Shut your nasty little face.

Speaker 6 (00:44):
Michael Patrick Shields is on the air.

Speaker 7 (00:47):
Good Morning World.

Speaker 5 (00:48):
There's where love snow. Though she's the honor of Mission
Point Resort, Mackinaw Island Travel Commissioner. She's joining our holiday spectacular,
our Morning of one hundred Stars. And never mind what
you just heard, you do enjoy the winter Wonderland, the
Courier and ives of Mackinaw Island when it snows absolutely
what about making that crossing though on the boat? Is

(01:10):
that scary?

Speaker 7 (01:10):
The cake piece of cake.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
Well, welcome. You came all the way downstate for this party,
and it's very very sweet of you. You are obviously
one of the travel leaders in Michigan, and a man
next to you is also somebody who has dealt in
recreation his whole life, at the Michigan level and at
the national level too. He was president of the PGA
of America. John Linderd, long time Country Club of Lancing
general manager, Thank you and Merry Christmas.

Speaker 7 (01:33):
Merry Christmas, good morning.

Speaker 5 (01:35):
You recognize these guys over here? I do what site?
What is your record at Country Club of Lancing? Tim
Magware was the range player. Why is it, John linder
that you can have a good range session, then you
go try to play and you're all over the place
and vice versa.

Speaker 8 (01:54):
It's the hardest twenty yards of golfed ever to walk
from the range.

Speaker 7 (01:59):
To the first I.

Speaker 5 (02:02):
Never heard that one before. That's pretty good. We also
saw you on the andro Bood podcast, which I thought
was very very interesting and you can hear that and
see it still too wherever you got your podcast as
you did a deep dive into John LINDERD.

Speaker 8 (02:14):
Yeah, that was a wonderful hour and a half. Had
a good time.

Speaker 5 (02:18):
Were you sworn in before that or no? No, okay,
you didn't have to tell the truth then.

Speaker 7 (02:23):
No, but I was locked in. Okay, they locked the
doors behind me.

Speaker 5 (02:27):
In the zone, as they say in the golf world.
And Paul Long in a Michigan Catholic conference you liked.
But where did you play in Ireland when you went?

Speaker 9 (02:35):
Did not play in irorel arm? No, I didn't have
enough time. That's the next trip.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
If Santa, we're going to put a golf course under
your tree, what would it be?

Speaker 9 (02:45):
With all due respect to John Oakland Hills, but the
country Club of clumb Lancing is one of my favorite
courses to play. Get the opportunity to play there maybe
once a year, and I seem to play some of my.

Speaker 7 (03:00):
Best golf there. If I had.

Speaker 9 (03:03):
The opportunity to be a member, I think I could
actually break ninety.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
That's funny how Tiger Woods used to come into the
press room and say, well, it broke eighty. It was
like self effacing thing to kind of say, wasn't.

Speaker 7 (03:15):
It almost every time?

Speaker 5 (03:17):
What are your experiences being around him? Like you're around him,
like we are around you right now?

Speaker 8 (03:22):
Weren't you a little a little bit, pass Champions Dinner
a couple times. Tiger's a very intense person. He wants
to sell at everything he does, and he works really
hard at not only his game, but a growing the game.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
He cares. He does take those headphones off if you're
getting too much feedback. Same goes for you, Liz. Where
because we're about to play the game, we decided to well,
I decided to devise a contest for today's Christmas spectacular.
Eyes have to have a twist. This is a particularly
twisted twist. But since you're here and we're all around
the Christmas tree here, and Tim Aguire, since your color

(04:09):
analyst tonight, describe for the listeners what you are seeing
now on this radio stage.

Speaker 10 (04:14):
Well, I'm seeing jolly Saint Nick with the accordion in
his chest, ha, and he is getting ready to read
some notes if you can believe that he's capable of
doing that, and play a Christmas song for all of us.

Speaker 5 (04:33):
Here and plague the game name that tune in my
Santa suit in Santa Suit, and these notes you're looking
at are from second grade.

Speaker 10 (04:41):
And in addition to now, let me tell you this
what you have that not a lot of people have
is adult supervision with your mother over there.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
That's right, plant Us is in the room, and Felix
Sharp Cavaliero and so Tom is a Paul along. Once
a year brings out his accordion players and he does
a show and he does quite well. And I went
to see it one time there at Reno's i think
it was, and he opened up his accordion box and
it looked just like mine, like notes like this in
a book, and the same notes from when he was

(05:12):
a kid. That's what these are. Al Truskowski wrote these
out in second grade. That's why the game is interesting
because this name that tune is pretty messed up. Because
if you can actually discern what the song is, you
will win a prize, a regifted prize. You will be
able to reach into the Beverly Hills Hotel bag and

(05:33):
pull out a regift. Some of them are white elephants.
Some of them, well, all of them are white elephants.
So there's not much chance involved that you'll do. Fine.
Who wants to go first? Ladies first?

Speaker 7 (05:47):
Right?

Speaker 5 (05:47):
Sure? Okay, see if you can name this tune played
by Santa MPs on the accordion on the radio on
thirteen stations, which are now tuning out with rapid rapidness.
Here we go first, Noel cheated. I told you did

(06:17):
you really not recognize him?

Speaker 7 (06:19):
That's what that was.

Speaker 5 (06:23):
From the top.

Speaker 11 (06:34):
It's all making sense.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
Now, can I get a gig at mission point? Playing
this no Okay comedy hour? Here it is.

Speaker 10 (06:45):
The bag is being delivered across the table, trying to
do all this miss looking with a tremendous joy and excitement.
This is to find out what is in that Beverly
Hills bag.

Speaker 5 (07:04):
Close your eyes, reach in, you know, you can dig
deep whatever you want to do and pull out the idea. Actually, oh,
describe it if you would for the listen.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
That's the Sea Wolves.

Speaker 5 (07:19):
Help me.

Speaker 10 (07:20):
It's a Sea Wolves jersey.

Speaker 5 (07:23):
It looks like it's a small cooler from the Eerie
Sea Wolves, which is part of the Tigers organization. And
it's got Spencer Charcolson's name on the back. And you
could put you know, a couple of Kansas strows in
there or whatever. And when you're driving up to mac
and it will be nice and cold for the ride.

Speaker 7 (07:40):
Perfect.

Speaker 5 (07:40):
I know you'll treasure thank you.

Speaker 11 (07:42):
I'm going to treasure this forever.

Speaker 7 (07:43):
It's a perfect regift.

Speaker 5 (07:45):
Thank you. Okay, John Lend, you're your turn. Don't worry
if I'm gonna change the key on Yeah, help me please,
here we go.

Speaker 12 (07:55):
Mm hmmm mm hmmmmmmm mm hmmm mm hmm.

Speaker 7 (08:09):
Little drummer boy, you cheated. Also, No, I didn't.

Speaker 5 (08:14):
No, I didn't. You didn't hear anything?

Speaker 7 (08:17):
How did I not know it?

Speaker 4 (08:23):
Do you have?

Speaker 7 (08:23):
Do you have like copyright in frenchmen on any of these?

Speaker 5 (08:26):
Like you're no, because no one can tell what the
song is not violating. These are our original you know compositions.

Speaker 7 (08:33):
Did you actually take lessons?

Speaker 5 (08:36):
Yeah? It was second grade. Now you get to reach
into the gifting bag and you have to take whatever
you get out of there. It has to go with you.
You must take it in the room.

Speaker 7 (08:46):
Well, there's nothing sharp in here, so that's that's.

Speaker 5 (08:49):
What will John Lindard get ten seconds? Oh he got
a what do we do? Copy mug from Dewey Stefan
great legs? Wow?

Speaker 12 (09:00):
What do.

Speaker 13 (09:03):
I gotta get these papers so I can wrap these?
I hope I don't forget nobody on his loan loan list.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
I don't forget anybody, didn't anybody.

Speaker 5 (09:17):
In the spirit, Well throw a little mob way.

Speaker 13 (09:24):
I got the whole God built up to the grims
like I'm driving a slip.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
This is Jennifer Hudson and her Christmas album that came
out last year. She was our featured artist on this
program for the holidays, and so we always remember our
past friends and people who've appeared on the show. And
I've appeared on her show too, sing it Jen.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Gotta be, You Gotta be.

Speaker 5 (09:51):
My dancing on the Jennifer Hudson Show was about as
good as my accordion playing. If you ever saw the episode,
and you could go on YouTube and find it if
you really wanted to, but be prepared you'll see what
I mean. Good morning this morning to Dawn Sipple, who
is listening to this program in California. She is a

(10:14):
Detroit Lions fan, believe it or not. And the Lions
went out there and got peton last week. But they've
got the Pittsburgh Steelers this weekend, and Jim Nantz from
CBS Sports will be coming in to call the game
and I will meet him in the broadcast booth before
the game. And John Linder, you've met our friend Jim
Nance a bunch of times with the PGA of America.

Speaker 7 (10:31):
I have great guy.

Speaker 8 (10:33):
Good I actually gave a little introduction speech for his
induction into the Oak Hill Hill of Fame at Oak
Hill when I was president of the pg of American
when we had the PGA Championship there, and Jim and
I have a little crossroad together.

Speaker 7 (10:48):
I was also.

Speaker 8 (10:49):
Recruited by the University of Houston to play college golf
there along Jim Wow.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
And but that's not where you went then, No, I
went to the University here Arizona.

Speaker 8 (10:58):
And I told Jim that, you know goodness that I
went to the University of Arizona, because had I gone
to the University of Houston, I probably would be sitting
in the broadcast.

Speaker 7 (11:07):
Well, you sort of were a professional somewhet.

Speaker 5 (11:09):
You were on national television with a microphone introducing the players.

Speaker 7 (11:12):
So it's sort of handed out a few trophies here
and there.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
Yeah, it was fun Arizona six years. University of Arizona
is in Tucson, right, And Tim McGuire, you spent a
lot of time in Tucson with your father, and that's
I'm like a server. I asked him a question when
he's having a bite of a bagel this morning and
honor for asking in honor of friend Yaffi and happy
Hanuka by the way to you. But just speaking of

(11:35):
you know, the people that we care about and think
about it the holidays. Your dad was spent a lot
of time in Tucson, and also Larry Pontino the Empire.

Speaker 10 (11:43):
Yeah, great memories there. Tucson Country Club. We had a
lot of fun. And it's a great golf course.

Speaker 5 (11:50):
And what a great place for you to be able
to go to school. It's a wonderful university.

Speaker 8 (11:55):
They just the university just did a fundraiser put fifteen
million dollars into Tucson Country Club.

Speaker 7 (12:01):
Yeah, and I was just their last spring.

Speaker 8 (12:04):
They built a wonderful facility for the students student athletes
there and they linked in the golf course for today's game.
And I remember going to your dad's house. Yeah there
on Ducsun country Club.

Speaker 5 (12:14):
This is very embarrassing for you, John Linder, but you're
a tough act to follow. And your microphone is now
going to go to Scott Ellis. Do you know by
any chance?

Speaker 7 (12:22):
Yeah, well I do.

Speaker 5 (12:24):
Have you taught him golf at all?

Speaker 7 (12:25):
Or well, we're it's a work in progress.

Speaker 11 (12:29):
We're more than a work in progress.

Speaker 5 (12:31):
I just went, yeah, well you can share the if
you want.

Speaker 8 (12:35):
It's actually called job security. Oh it's a student my
retirement plan. Oh, it's like a chronic illness. The drugs
are going to have to come the rest of the time.

Speaker 7 (12:44):
Long lessons.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
Well, got on that mic and tell us what was
what about Pinehurst? What did you shoot?

Speaker 11 (12:49):
Oh? I never broke I broke ninety one. I broke
ninety one.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
Time on that little course. The cauldron or what is that?

Speaker 11 (12:56):
I didn't even do that the cradle? But we did great.
We did ten, two, four and eight.

Speaker 7 (13:03):
I love eight.

Speaker 11 (13:04):
It was eight was amazing. It was amazing. Two is
it is ridiculous. I mean you gotta be like John
to play that. I can tell you that much. And
then ten was I think my favorite. Ten was awesome.

Speaker 5 (13:14):
Did you say you love eight? Pinehurst? Number eight?

Speaker 14 (13:18):
I do?

Speaker 5 (13:18):
I didn't even know you played golf, Liz, Where I do?

Speaker 7 (13:22):
I didn't say, I play?

Speaker 5 (13:22):
Well, Wow, we.

Speaker 11 (13:24):
Don't have to play. Well, we had a good time.
We had eight of us down there.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
That's impressive.

Speaker 15 (13:27):
A lot of walking, a lot of walking. But it
was an amazing course and I recommend it to anybody.
But John did give me lessons you know before in
years past, and I.

Speaker 11 (13:33):
Got a lot of work to do it.

Speaker 5 (13:34):
Susanne Hewart is going to let you reach into the
regift bag. Scott ellis from the Michigan License Beverage Association.
This is our special twisted gift. No peaking. Just dig
in there as far as you want. The Beverly Hills
Hotel bag. And what did you get? Oh? Actually, I
think that's a good white Elephant gift.

Speaker 11 (13:51):
It is. It's a Galway Bay bag.

Speaker 15 (13:55):
Just because the weather changes doesn't mean your swing has
to well, my swing does have to change, so.

Speaker 5 (14:01):
This is I think those are warm sleep Uh, they're
for your arms so that you don't have to wear
a bulky sweater. And you put those on your arms.

Speaker 15 (14:09):
You know what My kid wears us playing basketball stuff
like do you have an injury or something?

Speaker 11 (14:13):
No, Dad just looks cool.

Speaker 5 (14:14):
John, You know what?

Speaker 11 (14:15):
These would have been great because it was a little
chili down of pineal.

Speaker 5 (14:17):
Yeah, well you'll play somewhere. That's Jilly again, right.

Speaker 11 (14:19):
Oh yeah, well you're gonna take me to Ireland.

Speaker 12 (14:21):
Hope.

Speaker 10 (14:22):
Huh that isn't in the White Ouphant.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
John, that's a pretty handy tool. Isn't it.

Speaker 8 (14:29):
Those are great. I've got them. They make them both
for cold weather and sun protection.

Speaker 5 (14:35):
Now I have both.

Speaker 7 (14:36):
I have the I have the cold weather ones and
for the sun as well.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
Okay, look, how cool you're gonna be.

Speaker 11 (14:41):
No trading, right, no trades. I am not trading.

Speaker 5 (14:43):
I hadn't thought about that really.

Speaker 11 (14:44):
Yeah, well you know, but.

Speaker 5 (14:46):
We're gonna check with your wife, and if we find
out you're wearing those on your legs, we're gonna take
them back the legs.

Speaker 7 (14:52):
We got a problem.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
Oh boy, But don't we have time here for Tony
Cuthbert Just to break this up a little bit, how
about Charlie Brown Paul Long would like this and the
true meaning of Christmas Light.

Speaker 12 (15:07):
And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in
the field, keeping watch over their flock by night. And lo,
the Angel of the Lord came upon them, and the
glory of the Lord shall round about them. And they
were sore afraid. And the Angel said, unto them, I
fear not, for behold, I bring your tidings of great joy,
which shall be to all people. For unto you is

(15:29):
born this day in the City of David, a savior,
just Christ, the Lord, and this shall be a sign
unto you. You shall find the Babe wrapped in swaddling clothes,
lying in a manger. And suddenly there was with the
Angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God. I'm
saying glory to God in the highest an on earth, Peace,

(15:50):
goodwill toward men. That's what Christmas is about.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Charlie Brown.

Speaker 9 (15:56):
Beautifully said Linus.

Speaker 5 (15:59):
Yeah. Dropped the mic on that one sure did. Peace
would be nice could start.

Speaker 9 (16:05):
There would be very nice beginning in the Holy Land
and spreading out from there and.

Speaker 5 (16:10):
Starts with all of us today. To go ahead and
smile at somebody, that's all it really.

Speaker 9 (16:15):
Takes, being kind and generous to others.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
We start with a smile.

Speaker 9 (16:21):
Yes, As Father Jake used to say, if you treat
everyone like Jesus, the world would be better off.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
Paul Long, Michigan Catholic Conference MPs.

Speaker 16 (16:29):
Merry Christmas, Hey, jingy g it's Dominick the donkey, Jingjing?

Speaker 3 (16:43):
Can you tell your Christmas donkey?

Speaker 5 (16:47):
I didn't get white elephant gifts. I got beautiful gifts
from Tony Cuppert in the orchestra. Now, let's see if
you've ever been out west and Tim McGuire, you have
you know what this is? Oh boy, I'm gonna take
that one. He gave me a gift certificate to In
and Out and he wrote, I don't know how he
did this, but we're hearing Dominic the Donkey, the Italian

(17:07):
Christmas song right now. In the card he wrote, bonatale
if Alice on nov. The un Hamburgers, which means Merry
Christmas and happy New Year. I'm giving you a hamburger
just for you. Excellent. Yes. And he also gave me
these Liz Where stamps of Barbara Bush whole shady nice

(17:30):
Barbara Bush stamps and uh, you know I have lucky
enough to meet her my mother down here, Gladys was.
I was luckily to meet her, and so was Susanne Hewart.
What she said giving them to her, Oh I guess
she kind of looks like you all respect.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
By the way, you got me an Italian themed gift
as well. It's a very nice pillow with me sitting
in a Ferrari F one car.

Speaker 5 (17:52):
It's very very nice. You send in his face and
they put him as the driver with your does it
is an accurate.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Likeness, close enough, close enough.

Speaker 5 (18:01):
And the hewards gave me a Delta gift card so
I can fly to.

Speaker 9 (18:08):
California.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
Very useful, very very useful stuff. Thank you very much
for all of that. Now we have oh Mission Point Resort.
You're there at least three times a year, aren't you,
Scott Ellis at least?

Speaker 15 (18:23):
And if I can go more, I will go there
right next to you. I know it's one of my
favorite parts of coming here for Christmas. But yeah, I
mean Mission Points one of our best members of the
Michigan Licenseed Beverage Association. She's a leader, you know when
it comes to the island.

Speaker 11 (18:36):
Liz is my go to you know. We do training
up there every year and.

Speaker 15 (18:39):
She graciously hosts all the servers on the island come
to her place and we go up and do server training.

Speaker 11 (18:44):
And does he behave why don't go up there for that?

Speaker 5 (18:48):
I can't tell you that. Okay, good?

Speaker 11 (18:49):
See how this way you're there with me one of
the times I don't think there's.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
Let's change the subject. By the way, do you miss
the voice of Tim Allen on the Pure Michigan commercials?

Speaker 11 (18:58):
I do you know what's funny is is those can't pains.

Speaker 15 (19:00):
I don't think people realize what it does for the state,
and then you know you're a traveler. I travel not
quite as much, but when you're another you're at a
hotel and you see that pop up and you hear
Tim Allen and you see that come to Michigan. If
you're Michigan, it really right, and that he comes back
this year, it does They were the best.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
We'll be back. It's MPs all across Michigan.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
All be home for Christmas. You can count.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
James Judson with his brand new Christmas album which we
are featuring on this program, and we dave the world
radio debut sing it James the Present. When James Judson
is singing Tim maguire of the Presence under the Tree,
do you think he's singing about the bag that I

(20:15):
have of gifts to give to guests?

Speaker 10 (20:17):
Who comes to think that was in his mind's eye
when he wrote that song.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
So, since we're talking about presents under the tree and
being home for Christmas here at Lansing, the mayor is
here and he sure just re elected. Merry Christmas and
welcome back to the airwaves.

Speaker 6 (20:34):
Merry Christmas, Happy, Happy Kwanza, happy all the holidays and seasons.

Speaker 11 (20:39):
It's great to be here.

Speaker 5 (20:40):
So since he mentioned three or four different faiths, does
he get to go into the gift bag four times?
Be careful what you wish for. Susanne Hewart is going
to bring you the I thought you were kidding. Now
here's the thing I thought he was kidding. Don't wait
now look, don't don't look in there, and don't get excited.

(21:03):
It's a Beverly Hills Hotel bag. But it's full of
regifts and whatever you take you must take home with you.
Oh what did you get?

Speaker 14 (21:11):
I got happy socks.

Speaker 5 (21:12):
That's one of the better gifts. I say.

Speaker 6 (21:14):
I'm very excited for the happy.

Speaker 5 (21:16):
Those are pretty flashy. Would you wear those at the
council meetings and so forth? Would you wear a pair
of those at the next State of the City address? Probably? No,
you promised you wear them first, you know. No, I
didn't wear them. The happy socks regifted, but not previously warned.

Speaker 6 (21:32):
You're definitely regifted this box.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
This box is definitely beat up. Yeah, that's the charm
of it of the city. Is that what George Bush wore?
Did he wear happy socks?

Speaker 17 (21:42):
Was that?

Speaker 5 (21:43):
Yeah? He wore those. He was a Republican That's okay, though,
isn't It's okay.

Speaker 6 (21:47):
It's a weird I'm non partisans, so it's all good.

Speaker 5 (21:49):
I'd be excited, though, to watch the State of the
City address and know the mayor was wearing a pair
of socks that came from the regift bag on the
holiday show right here in the city. He'll think about
watching the budget.

Speaker 10 (22:02):
I don't know. I'm kind of wavering on the buzzball
or the happy socks.

Speaker 5 (22:08):
Matt Rhoad's got the buzzball, but he brought that upon himself. Now,
now that you see what the gift is, do you
still want to reach in there?

Speaker 6 (22:18):
I got three socks, so I did get I got
three gifts.

Speaker 5 (22:22):
I got. Suzanne Heward is not allowed to reach into
the bag because she is now she's doing a she's
doing an inventory of the bag, and she wants to
know if you regifted her gifts. She has seen all
the prizes in the bad It's awesome. Oh gosh, what
would you give the uh? What would you give your

(22:42):
citizens if you could give them anything at Christmas without
any budget constraints, et cetera.

Speaker 11 (22:49):
What would I would?

Speaker 6 (22:50):
I would have every every one of our four hundred
miles of roads and six hundred miles of sidewalks like
that fixed nice.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
That would be nice.

Speaker 6 (22:59):
That would be impossible, but that would be nice if
I could do that tomorrow. That's the most common thing
that I heard knocking doors. You know, we knocked eighty
three thousand doors during the election, which is a great
way to hear from your constituency. And we heard lots
of different things, good and bad. But we heard a
lot of folks who understood, you know, we understand, you know,

(23:19):
we don't you don't have the money, but you don't
have the money, but please fix my road next. So
that's what I would do, if, if, if, if you
Santa granted me the Christmas miracle, I would say, just
put every road that we have in the city of
Lansing right back to where it was when it first started.

Speaker 5 (23:35):
He's referring, I'm wearing a Santa suit, so I wish
I could just grant that. Maybe. Well, now what I
do I do notice that we're all we're not even
into the end of December yet, and you've had in
the city what's called a code blue. Yeah, yeah, I
never knew about that.

Speaker 6 (23:50):
This has been one of the coldest winters in many,
many years. So when we have a variety of metrics
that are national and when it gets under a certain
temperature under twenty five degrees with wind chill a variety
of other temperatures, we call it Code Blue. All of
the shelters will will admit pretty much anyone. They've all

(24:10):
got some lists where, you know, some people who've done
some things in the past have not been able to
come back in, and we open up Let's Community Center
at night and people can go there for warming. So basically,
when it's when it's certain cold weather, we we throw
out all the rules and we put people in to
make sure that they're not getting frostbite and not being

(24:32):
affected by the intensely cold elements. We do some of
this in their summer also with Code reds. We've been
doing it for five or six years, but this is
the first time I think we've had it continually now
for three four weeks. Usually it's three four days at
a time. You activate it and then you let it expire.
And but now it's it's been excessively cold. You know,

(24:54):
yesterday was forty degrees and I was like, this is great,
but last night was you know, under in the teens
think so you gotta you gotta help people, and you
got to do your best to do it. So we're
hoping that we'll come out of Code blue soon, so
so staff can get a little bit of rest because
it's very time intensive for staff and costly, but we're

(25:14):
helping people.

Speaker 5 (25:15):
Well, thank you for warming people and for warming our hearts.
And I'm gonna circle back, Paul along from the Michigan
Catholic Conference to what we said about how we can
create peace, each one of us individually. This what you
led into, mister Mayor and Paul and Father Jake and absentia.
Is what Bill Murray said at the end of the
movie scrooged.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
It's Christmas Evey. It's the one night in the year
when we all act a little nicer. We we we smile,
all lasier, we we we we.

Speaker 17 (25:44):
We chair a little more for a couple of hours
out of the whole year. We are the people that
we always hope what we would we It's a miracle.

Speaker 8 (25:54):
It's really sort of a miracle because it happens every
Christmas eason.

Speaker 5 (25:59):
And if you.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
Wait's that miracle, you're gonna burn for it.

Speaker 5 (26:02):
I know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 11 (26:04):
You have to do something.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
You have to take a chance. You do have to
get involved.

Speaker 17 (26:08):
There are people that are having trouble making their miracle happen.
There are people that don't have enough to eat that
there are people that are cold.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
You can go out and say hello to these people.
You can take an old blanket out of the closet
and say here. You can make them a sandwich and say, oh,
by the way, here, I get it now.

Speaker 17 (26:25):
And if you give, then you then it can happen.
Then the miracle can happen to you. It's not just
the poor and the hungry, it's it's everybody who's gotta
have this.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Miracle, and it can happen to night for all of you.

Speaker 17 (26:37):
If you believe in this beard thing, you the miracle
will happen, and then you'll want it to happen again tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
You won't be one of these fastess. It says Christmas
is once a year and it's a fraud. It's not.

Speaker 17 (26:47):
It can happen every day. You just gotta want that feeling.
And if you like it and you want it, you'll
get greedy for it.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
You'll want every day of your life, and it can
happen to you.

Speaker 11 (26:58):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
I believe in it now. I believe it's gonna happen
to me. Now I'm ready for it. It's great, it's
a good feelings. It's really better that I felt in
a long time. I'm ready.

Speaker 7 (27:15):
I have a Merry Christmas, Paul.

Speaker 5 (27:18):
That'd be a pretty good homily, wouldn't at midnight Mass?

Speaker 9 (27:21):
It would be a great homily any Sunday of the year.

Speaker 5 (27:24):
That's a good point. Why not Christmas all the time?

Speaker 9 (27:27):
That's correct point, and it's a point it's well said
from the standpoint that if you believe it, if you
try to live it, you want to do more of it.
And this is a season in which is a giving season.
It's not a it shouldn't be a getting season.

Speaker 5 (27:48):
By the way, Tim McGuire gave a beautiful gift to
my uncle Denny. He didn't have to do that, and
he made his day, made his year. Probably That's what
I'm talking about, totally random. Thank you for that, Oh,
uncle Denny. He's a legend. We will try to circle
back with him soon. It's MPs through the AT and
T microphones. Merry Christmas.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
Lights on godders doors with mistletoe. Well, the man's calling
for another foot of snow. The freeze is fall of venison.
The fridge is full of beer. Christmas Titan Michig Kid
is here, made cookies.

Speaker 5 (28:42):
With dresses, dewey Lungusky from Mason with a Christmas song
that actually includes this program.

Speaker 18 (28:48):
Neighbors friends bringing holiday cheer Christmas Timean Michigan is here,
Lights on Big Mac shine ain't brighte to Helbolt Sad
to find his way. So while the boys and girls
in the land and Hand.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
Did their brand news lads on Christmas Day, Fishing's big
show is spreading.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
Goodwill there it is. Thank you very much for saying
that we're spreading goodwill. And we're connecting people this morning too,
and we're connecting with old friends. To Mike be Savage
Chef Mike they call him at Resurrection is here and
he was my former neighbor in the Pine Crest neighborhood
and he traveled around quite a bit now. And is
missus still teaching at Resurrection is She's never gonna stop

(29:34):
his show? Didn't you say she was addicted to the
smell of the chalk?

Speaker 11 (29:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (29:39):
Right, What a nice thing to see you again. One
of our fishing expert on the program too. I got
and forestry expert as well. And you gave the most
interesting gift. You know, it's it's hard to give people
that are successful gifts because you just don't know what
they need or they really need anything. But so we
give us our you know, of our time and of

(30:01):
our hearts all along. But you gave Tony Cuthbert a
gift once that was that had to do with Christmas?
I did, Yeah, it had to do with Jesus and
the Three Kings, remember, yeah, would you tell everybody what
that wasn't Well?

Speaker 19 (30:20):
I have ten grandchildren and.

Speaker 14 (30:24):
Every time they get baptized, they get the same baptismal gift.
It's what the wise men brought to Jesus, gold, frankensense
and mirhes, and so we gave when his son was born,
we gave him some of that.

Speaker 5 (30:46):
How about that, Tony? That was touching, wasn't it?

Speaker 2 (30:48):
It was? It was a difficult time, There's no question
when I was provided that in Josh and he it
is in a very special place in our house and
I am forever grateful for it.

Speaker 7 (30:59):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
That's beautiful stuff. And you brought Tony something a little
different this time today, didn't you? And you brought it
for me too, and my Polish mother, Gladys Shields. Your
chick is her maiden name, sitting right over her Jerusic,
your chick. This is a koalachi. What is that?

Speaker 19 (31:17):
Well, it's a Ukrainian nut roll. It's a pastry done
in Eastern Europe. Every every country has a little bit
different spin on it. And so uh, this one is
a recipe from my grandmother. I make them every year

(31:38):
and people that are on my nice list get one
and the naughty list don't.

Speaker 5 (31:45):
But I got one. You're a nice guy, thank you.
I like on the label Hill These are not local,
but enjoy every bite and we will for sure. Now
in return, we are going to give you a chance
to dip in to the regift bag today from the
Beverly Hills Hotel and Liz where from mission point resort

(32:06):
is going to be the van of white. Now, you
can't look in there, You just have to reach in
and whatever you take you must take home with you
can't leave it here. What is Mike Vasavage coming up
with out.

Speaker 7 (32:17):
Of the gift It's a box?

Speaker 5 (32:19):
Oh yes, okay, while you're opening that to see what
it is. We are also going to welcome to the
our waves doctor Ingrid Stein's doctor of podiatric medicine. That's
your feet right. Thank you very much. I'm welcome to
the our waves. And Merry Christmas to you.

Speaker 20 (32:37):
Ry Christmas, thanks for having me here today.

Speaker 11 (32:39):
It's a pleasure ornament.

Speaker 5 (32:41):
Oh we found out what the now that is a
cheetah and that is a cheetah ornament and that came
from Africa from Mikado Safaris, regifted to you from me
and Mikado Safaris.

Speaker 16 (32:56):
Ah.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
Anyway, Paul, long wait to hear the story of how
doctor Ingrid got here? How did you get here? Would
you tell us? And don't be shy about it?

Speaker 20 (33:03):
Okay, I am going to tell you the story several
years ago. Okay, so years ago when I first started
watching your show and listening to you, my late husband
told me, I think you need to get on his
show and talk about what you're passionate about, which is
helping people with their foot pain and what I do.

Speaker 5 (33:25):
For a living.

Speaker 20 (33:25):
And I said, no, I can't go on the ear.

Speaker 5 (33:28):
So here you are, though.

Speaker 20 (33:30):
I was at Saint Martha's auction and thank you for
contributing this and I bid because I just I said,
you know what I'm going to do it. My husband
told me to do, and here I am.

Speaker 5 (33:41):
You bid on being on this show at Saint Martha's auction, Yep,
were you there.

Speaker 9 (33:45):
Paul, We unfortunately weren't with it, as he said, double
had on campus with football and hockey.

Speaker 5 (33:51):
That okay? And Tim, you frequent Saint Martha's now too, Yes,
I was at the Chris This pageant on Tuesday before
you were. Yeah. Well, and now look we have a
whole Saint Martha's section here. Now that's very interesting. They
migrated from Saint I wondered.

Speaker 9 (34:10):
I wondered who won that? And so it's very nice to.

Speaker 7 (34:15):
Meet the doctor.

Speaker 5 (34:15):
Thank you doctor Ingrid did. And in the future we're
going to talk more about why at the Red seedar
Pedietary people maybe they're not so attentive to their feet
as they should be.

Speaker 20 (34:27):
That's a really good point, especially this time of year.
We like to say, with people traveling and being on
their feet more shopping, it's a really good time to
pay attention to any new symptoms pain. It's not normal
to have foot pain, so we try to help them
with that. Just prevention and pain relief so that they
can do the things they want to do this time
of year, enjoy the holidays, prepare for the marathon, whatever marathon.

Speaker 5 (34:52):
Should we walk around our house barefoot or not?

Speaker 20 (34:54):
Never?

Speaker 5 (34:55):
Never? Oh it feels so good, though? No, what about
the beach barefoot walking?

Speaker 20 (35:01):
I'm not a huge fan of yourn ever, it's too
easy to step on things, get injuries and glass in
the feet, and you.

Speaker 5 (35:09):
Know you care barefoot in the grass. A little bit of.

Speaker 20 (35:13):
Foot in the beach, though, sounds good right now?

Speaker 5 (35:15):
It does well. Your toes in the sand, I guess
is a better way to put it. I always wondered
about that. So we should wear shoes or slippers around
your own house?

Speaker 3 (35:23):
Correct?

Speaker 5 (35:23):
Okay, Well, there's a little tip that you can get,
and you'll get more of that when we talk to
you at length in the next time, because now you're
going to come back again and thank you for your
charitable donation to Saint Martha's. That's very very sweet of you,
and also thanks to Sue who put it all together there.

Speaker 20 (35:40):
I met her literally, yes, I met her that evening,
and she gets you a cute story for another time.
I would just throw one more thing that's speaking of.

Speaker 5 (35:49):
As soon as we get back doctor ingrid Stein. Since
we were talking about toes in the sand, here's a
little melly Khaliki maka, a Hawaiian Christmas carol for you.
Melim mccau is a thing. Wow, you're doing a hula dance.
I wish we could see that on the radio. Just
imagine her doing that. Now, who is your friend you

(36:10):
brought in the corner over here?

Speaker 20 (36:11):
This is Jayleen Mills.

Speaker 5 (36:13):
She's in red, very nice yes and jewelry. Oh gee's
got jingle bells on. I know. And she's great.

Speaker 20 (36:19):
She's the one that greets patients on the phone and
when they walk into the office, makes them feel welcome
and just does a fabulous job. We're so happy to
have her part of her team.

Speaker 5 (36:28):
Here's the part of the day where you get to
look into the regifting bag. You don't look in there,
you reach into the regifting bag. Tim maguire will do
the honors this time. Whatever you get as a gift
you must take with you. You cannot leave it here, no peaking,
and feel free to dig around. Oh dear, what did
you get?

Speaker 20 (36:49):
Something to organize my closet, which I know I need
so magic hangers.

Speaker 5 (36:58):
Yeah, the magic hangers are actually courtesy of Gladys Shields.
My mother over there, and I think your friend should
also get a chance to reach into the regifting gifting
bag and once again you must take with you whatever
comes off that bag. And she's reaching in right now
and she pulls out. Oh, you got the same kind

(37:20):
of guest as Mike the Seven. You've got a zebra
ornament that's courtesy of Micado Safaris in Africa. Congratulations, don't
leave it here. You need to know whatever you do.
Tony Cuthbert, how about a little jingle bell since she's
wearing jingle bells from JP McCarthy and his Christmas sing Along,
and maybe we can sing along too. That's what's everybody.

Speaker 21 (37:45):
The nineteen ninety four Detroit Free Press w JR Christmas.

Speaker 5 (37:49):
Thing is on. Hey, we're here in the New.

Speaker 21 (37:54):
Center Park right across the street from the Fisher Building
Rand Boulevard. In second we've got a crowd of five
thousand very hearty souls. No way, I'm Larry Santos is
with us.

Speaker 5 (38:08):
How you doing, wonderful fight Same to you, Ry Christmas, Larry.

Speaker 7 (38:11):
We've got good singers tonight too.

Speaker 21 (38:13):
Fat Bob Taylor, of course is with us.

Speaker 19 (38:15):
Fat Bobby, I'm doing the best I can, considering I
have minimal talent.

Speaker 5 (38:19):
We're worried about you.

Speaker 7 (38:20):
You've just sort of straggled in. Well, okay, I may be.

Speaker 21 (38:27):
John McMurray, the world's greatest weather man.

Speaker 5 (38:30):
He's here, Thanks.

Speaker 7 (38:30):
John, absolutely here.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
And who's the guy on the here?

Speaker 5 (38:35):
Temmy, where are you? What a parade of friends from
Christmas Past with MPs
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