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Speaker 1 (00:18):
Shipwork.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
It's not hard work, but it's homework. We've got for
you just a little required reading at McNeely dot com.
You can find the Sunday Reads and you can read
them any time of the week if you want. You
can also find it on his social media. But if
you're going to do, i know, some scrolling at night,
maybe you should do it in a way that's a
(00:40):
little more sophisticated. And that's what you'll find every week.
It's not partisan or anything like that. It's thoughtful, high
praise for the likes of Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton and
Schumer and Condoleeza Rice and all of it. The failure
of big lie politics. You know, I'm just gonna give
you some samples here to what you're apping. It's at
(01:00):
McNeely dot com and every Sunday when it comes out,
usually in the morning. I'm very happy about that iPhone
poison phones are killing friendships. Got to click on that
one to figure out and I hope I'm not doing that.
And what about the fall of Prince Andrew. He's dropped
all his titles and sort of kicked out of the
royal family. You can read about it there. The other
(01:21):
required reading the front Lines of Freedom and those are
published every week by Michigan Forward and Shane Hernandez is
on our at and T line right now, the president
of the Michigan Forward Network, who is now a publisher
as well. Thank you for being here and welcome back
to the program.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
First and foremost. How do we get that publication every week,
the front Lines of Freedom?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Well, if you look up Michigan Forward on social media,
you'll find us on Twitter, on our ax I guess TikTok, Facebook,
We're all over social media and you can find the
links on those on our social media channels.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I have a very thoughtful friend in West Michigan. He's
a regular listener to the show. I won't say his
name just out of privacy, but he sent me a
message yesterday that said he had a friend since high
school who wrote on her Facebook page that she hoped
No King's Day would become a federal holiday celebrated every year.
(02:17):
He suggested to her that we already have a federal
No King's Holiday. It's called Independence Day on the fourth
of July. And this woman told him she's never speaking
to him again. That's where we are sometimes in politics.
But Why does it feel like it's the Democrats, especially
the fringe Democrats, who react in that fashion where they
(02:40):
will just never they'll just cut you off for life.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah. I mean it's funny because we're supposed to be
celebrating this idea that there's no Kings and we all
have freedom, and then if you don't, you don't agree
with them, and they want to cut you off. But
I think it's interesting. So she wants a federal holiday
to celebrate the fact that they're trying to distract from
the fact that the Democrats have failed us. That's essentially
(03:06):
what No Kings is. They don't want to talk about
the real issues. They don't want to talk about how
Republicans in Michigan led on roads, they've led on waste, fraud, abuse,
cost of living, forcing the budget to get done. Would
it have gotten done if it wasn't for House Republicans? Meanwhile,
No King's Day is really just a big distraction from
those issues.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
And not to sound partisan, but I mean, didn't we
find out that the emperor had no clothes with the
presidency of Joe Biden, and they protected the badness of
King Joe. And not only that, they wanted to appoint
his successor not elector.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah, I mean they protected him. He won the primary
with no votes. And then you look here in Michigan
and everybody that took part in No King's Day really
supported Governor Whitmer, who had rules for thee and not
for me. We all saw it. We all know that
these people supported her having endless emergency powers. They didn't
(04:05):
want to limit those powers. They wanted us to stay
in our homes. They wanted to report us for going
out for a walk. So there's a lot of hypocrisy
involved in mil King's Day and a lot of distraction
from real issues that matter to everyday families.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
And speaking of real issues, the Frontlines of Freedom also
talks about Karen MacDonald, who has become well, she's elevating
herself or attempting to to become Attorney General from Oxford.
There the Trump politics pledge.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
What is that, Well, she's asking everybody to pledge that
they don't turn the office into a political office where
they're constantly attacking their political opponents. Yet, if she wants
us to take it seriously, then she needs to denounce
our current ag first, who has had multiple cases, whether
it's the false electors. She sued the Trump admin dozens
(04:54):
of times, and she loses again and again and again
on this. So if she wants us to take a
serio on this pledge, then she needs to come out
and announce the biggest abuser of this, Dana Nessel.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Is it baked into the system that the attorney general
is elected in a partisan fashion, no matter which side
they come from.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, I mean the attorney generals are appointed at a
convention and then elected as to their parties. So you know,
I think that's what Democrats think the office is for.
Apparently as we watch how this last attorney general has operated.
But you know, we listen to Republican candidates right now
and they talk about rule of law. They talk about
being the chief law enforcement official, which is what it's about,
(05:40):
and that's what we need to elect in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Having said that, Dana Nessel has not been shy about
poking around at the MEDC.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Has she?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
She is not, And actually that's something that needs to happen.
As I said earlier, Republicans are the ones who have
led on the waste, fraud and abuse. They're the ones
who have brought this to attention, and I think she
sees the popularity of it and wants to ride that wave.
But let's be clear, it's Republicans who have led on
those issues. They've been talking about the MEDC for years,
(06:11):
not just with this most recent issue of the governor's
administration giving twenty million dollars to a donor. They've been
leading on it for decades. And I think she's just
riding that way because she sees it's popular.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Well, you were a state legislator, of course, and ran
for lieutenant governor. We avoided a shut down in Michigan.
At what costs? Were you happy with the deal? And
you know, recognize that most of us don't know how
to get too far into the sausage making, But was
it a good deal?
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Yeah? I mean, at the end of the day, a
deal's got to get done. We got to fund our schools,
we've got to fund our roads, we got to fund
our police. And let's be honest, if it wasn't for
the leadership of Matt Hall and House Republicans, that wouldn't
have gotten done. Are there things in a budget? It's
an eighty billion dollar budget. There's things that everybody is
going to love. That's the nature of a deal, but
(07:03):
we funded our roads, we have funded our schools. We
don't have huge taxes that have been increased on small
businesses and on individuals. So I think we have to
be happy with how the House Republicans led on this
issue and got it done.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
When you have ranked choice voting, which we don't have
in Michigan, can you put a Republican maybe as your
number one choice and then a Democrat as your number
two choice as you rank your as you rank your favorites.
Is that how it works?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
It does let you do that. It also confuses the
heck out of voters, as we saw with a unanimous
decision by the County Clerks Association. They unanigently have opposed
ranked choice voting because it is confusing, it does drag
out the process, and in their announcement it says it
affects voter engagement, which I think is codewords for suppression,
(07:59):
which we hear the left talk about all the time.
Yet a lot of them are going to support ring
choice voting because they think it helps them get elected.
But the reality is the average person who goes to
vote is going to have absolutely no clue what to do.
And we've been talking about it for years. We believe
in one person in one vote, and that's how it
should stay in Michigan, and I'm happy to see the
clerks come out and unanimously support that, including all of
(08:22):
the Democratic clerks across our state.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Do you think people will say, oh God, that sounds complicated,
forget it.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I think that's exactly what people are going to say.
When they hear more about it and learn more about it,
They're going to say, what is that. I don't understand it,
because you know, when you start to really explain it,
you realize your vote might even get thrown out and
not even counted if your person doesn't make the second
ballot or I guess the second counting of ballots.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Read about it and the front Lines of Freedom published
by the Michigan Forward Network and Shane Hernandez. Thank you
wide ranging conversation and I look forward to the next one.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
People can't have access to quality medical care without affordable
health insurance. At Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan, we
understand increasing health insurance costs are becoming more of a
strain on the budgets of the businesses and people we serve.
Affordability matters it affects real families, real decisions, and real care.
That's why at Blue Cross were dedicated to finding solutions
(09:22):
to learn about this critical issue in our efforts to
make healthcare affordable for all. Visitmi blue Daily dot com
slash affordability today.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Whether they're dough boys, comments or even gremlins, Every public
school in Michigan is proud to be known for something,
and at the Michigan Lottery, we're proud to be known
for something too. Education. I'm Lottery Commissioner Susanna Screlli, and
one hundred percent of our profits go to support the
state School Aid Fund. Last year, the Lottery contributed over
one billion dollars. So whatever hometown school you're from, we're
(09:52):
rooting for all of them. Michigan Lottery for fun for schools.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
Knowing your limits as always the best BacT. Dean Transportation
is looking for compassionate people to join our team of
school bus drivers and attendants. Visit deanjobs dot com to
see all openings. Dean Transportation provides paid training to obtain
a commercial driver's license, increased starting pay, comprehensive benefits, and
(10:17):
flexible schedules with no weekend shifts, no experience needed. Apply
today at Dean jobs dot com and train for back
to school season. That's da n Jobs dot com.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Change is bright. It's a clean energy future fueled by
fields of solar. It's led lighting in every home, and
Consumers Energy is making it happen with their industry leading
clean energy plan. This year, They're going all in on
their commitment to protecting the planet while serving nearly seven
(10:52):
million Michigan neighbors. Learn more and join the movement at
Consumers Energy dot com. Slash clean Energy
Shipwork.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
It's not hard work, but it's homework. We've got for
you just a little required reading at McNeely dot com.
You can find the Sunday Reads and you can read
them any time of the week if you want. You
can also find it on his social media. But if
you're going to do, i know, some scrolling at night,
maybe you should do it in a way that's a
(00:40):
little more sophisticated. And that's what you'll find every week.
It's not partisan or anything like that. It's thoughtful, high
praise for the likes of Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton and
Schumer and Condoleeza Rice and all of it. The failure
of big lie politics. You know, I'm just gonna give
you some samples here to what you're apping. It's at
(01:00):
McNeely dot com and every Sunday when it comes out,
usually in the morning. I'm very happy about that iPhone
poison phones are killing friendships. Got to click on that
one to figure out and I hope I'm not doing that.
And what about the fall of Prince Andrew. He's dropped
all his titles and sort of kicked out of the
royal family. You can read about it there. The other
(01:21):
required reading the front Lines of Freedom and those are
published every week by Michigan Forward and Shane Hernandez is
on our at and T line right now, the president
of the Michigan Forward Network, who is now a publisher
as well. Thank you for being here and welcome back
to the program.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
First and foremost. How do we get that publication every week,
the front Lines of Freedom?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Well, if you look up Michigan Forward on social media,
you'll find us on Twitter, on our ax I guess TikTok, Facebook,
We're all over social media and you can find the
links on those on our social media channels.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I have a very thoughtful friend in West Michigan. He's
a regular listener to the show. I won't say his
name just out of privacy, but he sent me a
message yesterday that said he had a friend since high
school who wrote on her Facebook page that she hoped
No King's Day would become a federal holiday celebrated every year.
(02:17):
He suggested to her that we already have a federal
No King's Holiday. It's called Independence Day on the fourth
of July. And this woman told him she's never speaking
to him again. That's where we are sometimes in politics.
But Why does it feel like it's the Democrats, especially
the fringe Democrats, who react in that fashion where they
(02:40):
will just never they'll just cut you off for life.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah. I mean it's funny because we're supposed to be
celebrating this idea that there's no Kings and we all
have freedom, and then if you don't, you don't agree
with them, and they want to cut you off. But
I think it's interesting. So she wants a federal holiday
to celebrate the fact that they're trying to distract from
the fact that the Democrats have failed us. That's essentially
(03:06):
what No Kings is. They don't want to talk about
the real issues. They don't want to talk about how
Republicans in Michigan led on roads, they've led on waste, fraud, abuse,
cost of living, forcing the budget to get done. Would
it have gotten done if it wasn't for House Republicans? Meanwhile,
No King's Day is really just a big distraction from
those issues.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
And not to sound partisan, but I mean, didn't we
find out that the emperor had no clothes with the
presidency of Joe Biden, and they protected the badness of
King Joe. And not only that, they wanted to appoint
his successor not elector.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah, I mean they protected him. He won the primary
with no votes. And then you look here in Michigan
and everybody that took part in No King's Day really
supported Governor Whitmer, who had rules for thee and not
for me. We all saw it. We all know that
these people supported her having endless emergency powers. They didn't
(04:05):
want to limit those powers. They wanted us to stay
in our homes. They wanted to report us for going
out for a walk. So there's a lot of hypocrisy
involved in mil King's Day and a lot of distraction
from real issues that matter to everyday families.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
And speaking of real issues, the Frontlines of Freedom also
talks about Karen MacDonald, who has become well, she's elevating
herself or attempting to to become Attorney General from Oxford.
There the Trump politics pledge.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
What is that, Well, she's asking everybody to pledge that
they don't turn the office into a political office where
they're constantly attacking their political opponents. Yet, if she wants
us to take it seriously, then she needs to denounce
our current ag first, who has had multiple cases, whether
it's the false electors. She sued the Trump admin dozens
(04:54):
of times, and she loses again and again and again
on this. So if she wants us to take a
serio on this pledge, then she needs to come out
and announce the biggest abuser of this, Dana Nessel.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Is it baked into the system that the attorney general
is elected in a partisan fashion, no matter which side
they come from.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, I mean the attorney generals are appointed at a
convention and then elected as to their parties. So you know,
I think that's what Democrats think the office is for.
Apparently as we watch how this last attorney general has operated.
But you know, we listen to Republican candidates right now
and they talk about rule of law. They talk about
being the chief law enforcement official, which is what it's about,
(05:40):
and that's what we need to elect in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Having said that, Dana Nessel has not been shy about
poking around at the MEDC.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Has she?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
She is not, And actually that's something that needs to happen.
As I said earlier, Republicans are the ones who have
led on the waste, fraud and abuse. They're the ones
who have brought this to attention, and I think she
sees the popularity of it and wants to ride that wave.
But let's be clear, it's Republicans who have led on
those issues. They've been talking about the MEDC for years,
(06:11):
not just with this most recent issue of the governor's
administration giving twenty million dollars to a donor. They've been
leading on it for decades. And I think she's just
riding that way because she sees it's popular.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Well, you were a state legislator, of course, and ran
for lieutenant governor. We avoided a shut down in Michigan.
At what costs? Were you happy with the deal? And
you know, recognize that most of us don't know how
to get too far into the sausage making, But was
it a good deal?
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Yeah? I mean, at the end of the day, a
deal's got to get done. We got to fund our schools,
we've got to fund our roads, we got to fund
our police. And let's be honest, if it wasn't for
the leadership of Matt Hall and House Republicans, that wouldn't
have gotten done. Are there things in a budget? It's
an eighty billion dollar budget. There's things that everybody is
going to love. That's the nature of a deal, but
(07:03):
we funded our roads, we have funded our schools. We
don't have huge taxes that have been increased on small
businesses and on individuals. So I think we have to
be happy with how the House Republicans led on this
issue and got it done.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
When you have ranked choice voting, which we don't have
in Michigan, can you put a Republican maybe as your
number one choice and then a Democrat as your number
two choice as you rank your as you rank your favorites.
Is that how it works?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
It does let you do that. It also confuses the
heck out of voters, as we saw with a unanimous
decision by the County Clerks Association. They unanigently have opposed
ranked choice voting because it is confusing, it does drag
out the process, and in their announcement it says it
affects voter engagement, which I think is codewords for suppression,
(07:59):
which we hear the left talk about all the time.
Yet a lot of them are going to support ring
choice voting because they think it helps them get elected.
But the reality is the average person who goes to
vote is going to have absolutely no clue what to do.
And we've been talking about it for years. We believe
in one person in one vote, and that's how it
should stay in Michigan, and I'm happy to see the
clerks come out and unanimously support that, including all of
(08:22):
the Democratic clerks across our state.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Do you think people will say, oh God, that sounds complicated,
forget it.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I think that's exactly what people are going to say.
When they hear more about it and learn more about it,
They're going to say, what is that. I don't understand it,
because you know, when you start to really explain it,
you realize your vote might even get thrown out and
not even counted if your person doesn't make the second
ballot or I guess the second counting of ballots.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Read about it and the front Lines of Freedom published
by the Michigan Forward Network and Shane Hernandez. Thank you
wide ranging conversation and I look forward to the next one.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
People can't have access to quality medical care without affordable
health insurance. At Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan, we
understand increasing health insurance costs are becoming more of a
strain on the budgets of the businesses and people we serve.
Affordability matters it affects real families, real decisions, and real care.
That's why at Blue Cross were dedicated to finding solutions
(09:22):
to learn about this critical issue in our efforts to
make healthcare affordable for all. Visitmi blue Daily dot com
slash affordability today.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Whether they're dough boys, comments or even gremlins, Every public
school in Michigan is proud to be known for something,
and at the Michigan Lottery, we're proud to be known
for something too. Education. I'm Lottery Commissioner Susanna Screlli, and
one hundred percent of our profits go to support the
state School Aid Fund. Last year, the Lottery contributed over
one billion dollars. So whatever hometown school you're from, we're
(09:52):
rooting for all of them. Michigan Lottery for fun for schools.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
Knowing your limits as always the best BacT. Dean Transportation
is looking for compassionate people to join our team of
school bus drivers and attendants. Visit deanjobs dot com to
see all openings. Dean Transportation provides paid training to obtain
a commercial driver's license, increased starting pay, comprehensive benefits, and
(10:17):
flexible schedules with no weekend shifts, no experience needed. Apply
today at Dean jobs dot com and train for back
to school season. That's da n Jobs dot com.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Change is bright. It's a clean energy future fueled by
fields of solar. It's led lighting in every home, and
Consumers Energy is making it happen with their industry leading
clean energy plan. This year, They're going all in on
their commitment to protecting the planet while serving nearly seven
(10:52):
million Michigan neighbors. Learn more and join the movement at
Consumers Energy dot com. Slash clean Energy
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