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Speaker 1 (00:13):
This beautiful you're listening to Michael Patrick Shields. That's me
radio stations across the state of Michigan worldwide at amibigshow
dot com. It's been twenty years of this program. It's
the summer of MPs twenty and some of our most
famous guests and our most intriguing guests are attorneys. And
(00:34):
that's because Tony Cuthbert, who produces this program, floods us
with great guests. And who we got now, Todd Flood
Believe it or not. He was a special prosecutor for
the Attorney General in the Flint Water crisis. High profile
attorney in the state of Michigan. And dare I say,
mister Heather Catallo is on our AT and T line too.
With all due respect, it's nice to meet you, Michael.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
The pleasure is mine. Pleasure is mine. Yes, I'm just
a string on the you know, the coattails of Heather
to Tallow, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Well, marrying a media person takes a lot of courage.
Take it for me. I'm yeah, I mean, I'm oh
for four. So just go visit performers and see what
they say about that. I also played football in high
school and uh. I also went to CMU to study
(01:28):
broadcasting for a little bit, and these two merged together
in your latest high profile case what happened in Mount
Pleasant and what are you doing about it?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
So this is you know, this is I always say
where are the adults? That's kind of a mantra. Sometimes
we send our kids off the college and you know,
we're entrusting that they, you know, are going to not
have problems with the adults and the supervision that takes
place at the school. Dean Brown with picture coming out
(02:01):
of Ohio ninety mile an hour fastball, well scouted. He had,
as I believe, still hopefully promising career.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
He was in Kentucky for a four game series with
playing for CMU. On the last day, the last series,
last game of the series, he's they have a ritual,
and this ritual is is that the coach, the assistant
coach will come by and bump all the pictures.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
He's in between two guys, and the assistant coach did
a Woody Hayes move, only worse. He wound up and
with Jay with Dean not looking, punched him. I mean
it's a violent punch in the chests, knocking him over
(02:55):
not going him back and left a pretty serious bruce
on his chest. But you know, that's that's one part
of the story. The bigger part of the story is,
which is what I can't is unconscionable Dean. Dean is
reported to the head coach later on, and then uh,
(03:21):
it goes up to the athletic director, and what do
they do. They turn a blind eye to them and
pine them. They put them on the pines, They sit
them and ostracize them and get the other higher you
seniors to go against him. The assistant coach, the guy
that punched him, who had some serious problems of his own,
(03:44):
which we lay out a little bit and then give
a peak to sneak preview in the lawsuit, meets them
privately and then practice field and says, hey, we're all good.
We're brothers. You understand, We're all good. It's okay, and
talks to him in a way that is not not
a coach experience. I played sports all my life and
(04:10):
this is this is one of those situations where it's
a bad place for what Dean had his suffered through
and that they tried to cover it up. Other players
on the team contacted me. It sketched out exactly what happened,
how it happened. His parents contacted me and we've shoot CMU,
(04:33):
which is you know, it's a farm. CMU is a
good good they had, They have had some high recognition
in baseball for certain.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
It's interesting when I heard it was a coach bullying situation,
I presumed it was football. It was baseball though, And
basically CMU said to this fella, there's no crying in baseball,
but in this case there is. Is it physical damage?
Is it mental damage? Is it damage to his earn potential?
What are the injuries?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
All three? So you know all three. He definitely suffered
a serious uh bruse and and you know that's part
of it. There was definitely you know, the lack of
protection under Title nine that took place. And there's also
(05:24):
you know, he had to stop his career, stop the
potential for him going on forward. I mean, he was
a well scouted situation and now you know, you've got
to build himself back up. Other universities are looking at
what why did you leave? You know, what what happened here?
And you got to explain it away. And so he
(05:45):
he has, but you know that still sets you back,
so especially in college sports and how competitive it is,
how how you know the strength of you know, you know,
the disparity is very small, right, There's so many other
players that could potentially jump up, right, So it's it's
(06:08):
one of those situations where it's kind of put him back,
are wrong, which is totally unfair, wrong, And what's the
picture worth nowadays? As an eighteen year old throwing ninety
miles an hour, it's pretty good, you know, and he's
going to do nothing, but it's stronger and bigger and faster, right, So.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
How much are you asking?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
You know, I put in the lawsuits enough for the
jurisdictional part, but I'm going to look at the comparables
of what this case is worth around the country and
what has happened with other players. So you're going to
(06:48):
see it'll get seven figure case. There's no question in
my mind it'll be a seven figure case. But I
want to make sure it's accurate, not it. And so
when we go to a jury in this case, we'll
make sure that we give a jury and honest opinion
about what this case is worth, and our experts will
(07:09):
tell us exactly how much he lost.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
That case will take place in Mount Pleasant.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
No, it's in federal courts, in federal court because of diversity.
So we've filed it. We filed it here in the
Eastern District in Michigan.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Just a minute and a half less with Todd Flood.
The you've mentioned the assistant coach who this pregame ritual
quote unquote punched him in the chest, has issues of
his own. What sort of issues he had?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Some drinking problems and appropriate behavior problems that you know
are exhibited throughout the team and people talk about members
of the team talk about.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Is he still working?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
You know he is? He is.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Again, they attempted to cover this stuff up. I mean,
that's the retaliation. Can you imagine an eighteen year old,
you know, having to go through this. We all right,
so this is what we teach you about life. You know,
we send you off to college and here's your education.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Do you think if the coach had apologized, it would
be a different story.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah. I think if the head coach and the athletic
director apologized and said, hey, listen, we got to figure
this out and have the assistant coach sit down for
a minute, as opposed to the player and you know,
take instead of that would have happened. Yeah, I think
a lot of things probably would have been different.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
And that's something that we're giving a Yeah, you'd like
to think so. And also in this case, well we'll
follow the story for you. It's a pleasure to meet you.
Todd Flood on radio stations across the state of Michigan,
including near Mount Pleasant there and Big Rapids Reed City, WBRN,
it's MPs. Have you ever wondered why health insurance costs
(09:02):
seem to keep going up? I was doing some research
online and I stumbled upon some surprising information on Blue
Cross Blue Shield of Michigan's websitemibluedaily dot com slash affordability.
I was surprised to learn that the cost Blue Cross
pays for prescription drugs rose by a staggering fifteen percent
last year. Fifteen percent. That's five times higher than inflation.
(09:24):
It's no wonder healthcare costs or a concern for so
many of us. That's why Blue Cross, Blue Shield of
Michigan is working hard to help all of us better
understand the factors driving up healthcare costs and sharing what
they are doing is a business to address it. Because
Blue Cross knows that healthcare is personal, it needs to
work for everyone, and affordability matters. So I encourage you
(09:45):
to take a minute and check outmibludaily dot com slash
affordability and get informed. You'll be glad you did. It's
eye opening information that can help everyone better understand the
complexities of the healthcare system and its impact on your
health insurance costs. I've gotta find Matt Rhodes here at
Dusty Cellar because I want to book a catering order
(10:07):
for a social gathering at my house or maybe I'll
have it here at Dusty Cellar. I gotta know what
my options are, and thank God, there you are, Matt.
What are the catering options?
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Thanks Michael. You have lots of options that we can
cater your event at home or office or here at
Dusty's in one of our private rooms serving guests of
twelve and up to fifty.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
What menu can I order offer for the event?
Speaker 4 (10:25):
As of now, we're offering our catering menu for all
of our catering events for both on and off premise.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Okay, I'm going to book something today. I assume I
can still get my six for sixty six dollars wine clubs,
and the pastries from the bakery and the full service
at the tap room.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Absolutely, all the services are fully functioning. The wine clubs
going strong, catering anytime. The taproom is serving inside and
out while we're still having this great summer weather.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah, you gotta join me at Dusty Cellar. It's on
Grand River in Okamus and online at dustysellar dot com.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Cheers Maatt, Cheers Michael Patrick.
This beautiful you're listening to Michael Patrick Shields. That's me
radio stations across the state of Michigan worldwide at amibigshow
dot com. It's been twenty years of this program. It's
the summer of MPs twenty and some of our most
famous guests and our most intriguing guests are attorneys. And
(00:34):
that's because Tony Cuthbert, who produces this program, floods us
with great guests. And who we got now, Todd Flood
Believe it or not. He was a special prosecutor for
the Attorney General in the Flint Water crisis. High profile
attorney in the state of Michigan. And dare I say,
mister Heather Catallo is on our AT and T line too.
With all due respect, it's nice to meet you, Michael.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
The pleasure is mine. Pleasure is mine. Yes, I'm just
a string on the you know, the coattails of Heather
to Tallow, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Well, marrying a media person takes a lot of courage.
Take it for me. I'm yeah, I mean, I'm oh
for four. So just go visit performers and see what
they say about that. I also played football in high
school and uh. I also went to CMU to study
(01:28):
broadcasting for a little bit, and these two merged together
in your latest high profile case what happened in Mount
Pleasant and what are you doing about it?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
So this is you know, this is I always say
where are the adults? That's kind of a mantra. Sometimes
we send our kids off the college and you know,
we're entrusting that they, you know, are going to not
have problems with the adults and the supervision that takes
place at the school. Dean Brown with picture coming out
(02:01):
of Ohio ninety mile an hour fastball, well scouted. He had,
as I believe, still hopefully promising career.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
He was in Kentucky for a four game series with
playing for CMU. On the last day, the last series,
last game of the series, he's they have a ritual,
and this ritual is is that the coach, the assistant
coach will come by and bump all the pictures.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
He's in between two guys, and the assistant coach did
a Woody Hayes move, only worse. He wound up and
with Jay with Dean not looking, punched him. I mean
it's a violent punch in the chests, knocking him over
(02:55):
not going him back and left a pretty serious bruce
on his chest. But you know, that's that's one part
of the story. The bigger part of the story is,
which is what I can't is unconscionable Dean. Dean is
reported to the head coach later on, and then uh,
(03:21):
it goes up to the athletic director, and what do
they do. They turn a blind eye to them and
pine them. They put them on the pines, They sit
them and ostracize them and get the other higher you
seniors to go against him. The assistant coach, the guy
that punched him, who had some serious problems of his own,
(03:44):
which we lay out a little bit and then give
a peak to sneak preview in the lawsuit, meets them
privately and then practice field and says, hey, we're all good.
We're brothers. You understand, We're all good. It's okay, and
talks to him in a way that is not not
a coach experience. I played sports all my life and
(04:10):
this is this is one of those situations where it's
a bad place for what Dean had his suffered through
and that they tried to cover it up. Other players
on the team contacted me. It sketched out exactly what happened,
how it happened. His parents contacted me and we've shoot CMU,
(04:33):
which is you know, it's a farm. CMU is a
good good they had, They have had some high recognition
in baseball for certain.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
It's interesting when I heard it was a coach bullying situation,
I presumed it was football. It was baseball though, And
basically CMU said to this fella, there's no crying in baseball,
but in this case there is. Is it physical damage?
Is it mental damage? Is it damage to his earn potential?
What are the injuries?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
All three? So you know all three. He definitely suffered
a serious uh bruse and and you know that's part
of it. There was definitely you know, the lack of
protection under Title nine that took place. And there's also
(05:24):
you know, he had to stop his career, stop the
potential for him going on forward. I mean, he was
a well scouted situation and now you know, you've got
to build himself back up. Other universities are looking at
what why did you leave? You know, what what happened here?
And you got to explain it away. And so he
(05:45):
he has, but you know that still sets you back,
so especially in college sports and how competitive it is,
how how you know the strength of you know, you know,
the disparity is very small, right, There's so many other
players that could potentially jump up, right, So it's it's
(06:08):
one of those situations where it's kind of put him back,
are wrong, which is totally unfair, wrong, And what's the
picture worth nowadays? As an eighteen year old throwing ninety
miles an hour, it's pretty good, you know, and he's
going to do nothing, but it's stronger and bigger and faster, right, So.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
How much are you asking?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
You know, I put in the lawsuits enough for the
jurisdictional part, but I'm going to look at the comparables
of what this case is worth around the country and
what has happened with other players. So you're going to
(06:48):
see it'll get seven figure case. There's no question in
my mind it'll be a seven figure case. But I
want to make sure it's accurate, not it. And so
when we go to a jury in this case, we'll
make sure that we give a jury and honest opinion
about what this case is worth, and our experts will
(07:09):
tell us exactly how much he lost.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
That case will take place in Mount Pleasant.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
No, it's in federal courts, in federal court because of diversity.
So we've filed it. We filed it here in the
Eastern District in Michigan.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Just a minute and a half less with Todd Flood.
The you've mentioned the assistant coach who this pregame ritual
quote unquote punched him in the chest, has issues of
his own. What sort of issues he had?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Some drinking problems and appropriate behavior problems that you know
are exhibited throughout the team and people talk about members
of the team talk about.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Is he still working?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
You know he is? He is.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Again, they attempted to cover this stuff up. I mean,
that's the retaliation. Can you imagine an eighteen year old,
you know, having to go through this. We all right,
so this is what we teach you about life. You know,
we send you off to college and here's your education.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Do you think if the coach had apologized, it would
be a different story.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah. I think if the head coach and the athletic
director apologized and said, hey, listen, we got to figure
this out and have the assistant coach sit down for
a minute, as opposed to the player and you know,
take instead of that would have happened. Yeah, I think
a lot of things probably would have been different.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
And that's something that we're giving a Yeah, you'd like
to think so. And also in this case, well we'll
follow the story for you. It's a pleasure to meet you.
Todd Flood on radio stations across the state of Michigan,
including near Mount Pleasant there and Big Rapids Reed City, WBRN,
it's MPs. Have you ever wondered why health insurance costs
(09:02):
seem to keep going up? I was doing some research
online and I stumbled upon some surprising information on Blue
Cross Blue Shield of Michigan's websitemibluedaily dot com slash affordability.
I was surprised to learn that the cost Blue Cross
pays for prescription drugs rose by a staggering fifteen percent
last year. Fifteen percent. That's five times higher than inflation.
(09:24):
It's no wonder healthcare costs or a concern for so
many of us. That's why Blue Cross, Blue Shield of
Michigan is working hard to help all of us better
understand the factors driving up healthcare costs and sharing what
they are doing is a business to address it. Because
Blue Cross knows that healthcare is personal, it needs to
work for everyone, and affordability matters. So I encourage you
(09:45):
to take a minute and check outmibludaily dot com slash
affordability and get informed. You'll be glad you did. It's
eye opening information that can help everyone better understand the
complexities of the healthcare system and its impact on your
health insurance costs. I've gotta find Matt Rhodes here at
Dusty Cellar because I want to book a catering order
(10:07):
for a social gathering at my house or maybe I'll
have it here at Dusty Cellar. I gotta know what
my options are, and thank God, there you are, Matt.
What are the catering options?
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Thanks Michael. You have lots of options that we can
cater your event at home or office or here at
Dusty's in one of our private rooms serving guests of
twelve and up to fifty.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
What menu can I order offer for the event?
Speaker 4 (10:25):
As of now, we're offering our catering menu for all
of our catering events for both on and off premise.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Okay, I'm going to book something today. I assume I
can still get my six for sixty six dollars wine clubs,
and the pastries from the bakery and the full service
at the tap room.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Absolutely, all the services are fully functioning. The wine clubs
going strong, catering anytime. The taproom is serving inside and
out while we're still having this great summer weather.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah, you gotta join me at Dusty Cellar. It's on
Grand River in Okamus and online at dustysellar dot com.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Cheers Maatt, Cheers Michael Patrick.
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