July 20, 2023 • 47 mins
In this episode, Tania Kolar interviews entrepreneur and internationally renowned professional speaker. Roger Caesar. They discuss finding your greatness and living your best life. Roger shares pivotal moments in his life and how he went from shy kid to winning Third Place at the 2021 World Championship of Public Speaking. You will also hear the most valuable advice he learned from his grandmother and what it means to hold space for someone.
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The views expressed in the following programare those of the participants and do not
necessarily reflect the views of SAGA ninesixty am or its management. Well,
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hello, and welcome to the Mindsetmentor. I'm your host, Tanya Kohler,
helping you live your best life.And you know I'm always, you
know, reminding you that your mindsetis like a muscle that truly needs to
be strengthened and conditioned. So areyou ready for your minds that work out
for today? Well, listen,I hope you are super popped because I
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am really pumped about my guests today. Who is I would call him a
master communicator? And we know howimportant communication is to life. Are you
know? Everyday moments, communication isreally everything. Sometimes that's even the nonverbal
communication, right, I mean,these are all factors that impact the quality
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of our lives. So I wantto talk to are a phenomenal guest who
is an entrepreneur. He is aninternationally renowned public speaker, professional speaker.
He's actually done over oh you know, about like ten thousand speeches. I
told you he's a master communicator.That is a lot of speeches and also
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award winning. He actually won thirdplace in the world twenty twenty one World
Championship of Public Speaking and more.That's impressive because, if you think about
it, that's one of the mostdreaded fears that people have, is speaking.
So we're gonna learn his secrets,his tips, and how also to
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live at your greatness. He isall about inspiring and motivating the masses to
truly find their greatness within because youknow what you have it it is there,
and sometimes we forget that. Sotoday is about reminding you of your
beautiful greatness. Roger Caesar. Itis such a pleasure having you here on
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the mindset mentor welcome my friend.Thank you very much, Tanya, great
to be here. Who Yeah,maybe you know, let's do this because
you know, I know that you'rebusy and you're up to really great things.
You just came back from California doingwhat you love, speaking on the
stages, motivating and inspiring people.But I want to talk a little bit
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about you know, your progression andhow at one time you know, you
weren't really that master communicator. Right, that doesn't happen overnight. That's a
journey. So I'd love to delveinto your journey and what was the catalyst
for you to really start to leadyou down this path. Well, it's
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funny, a lot of people wouldsay to me, well, you you've
got to have been always like this, did you Did you always aspire to
be a speaker? Did you alwaysaspire to be able to share that greatness
with other people? And I oftentell people, no, I was the
kid in school that was so shythat sat in the back of a room
and didn't want the teacher to evencall his name and sweat profusely. Oh
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yeah, And I would profusely profuselyat the sound of my name being called
to go up to the front andto read. And that was that was
me growing up in high school.I think it would probably be my last
year of high school. My secondyear was when I started to open up
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and let the shell kind of startto open here. And that was because
I ran track and field, andI used to let my work on the
track do the talking for me.I wouldn't do a lot of speaking at
all. I was still that shykid. It so, when we fast
forward to where my progression started,it would have been with the family business.
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My parents started a business about thirtyfour years ago now, no,
thirty thirty eight years. Now,we're in our thirty eighth year of business.
And when my father was retiring andI was taking over that business,
I realized that people see you verydifferently if you do not know how to
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properly communicate, especially in the businessworld, and if you have to go
into any meetings and you're fumbling withyour words, and even though you know
exactly what you're talking about, thatcould be a problem. And that's where
it all started, where the lightbulbs, so to speak, went off
for me. I went into ameeting with one of our customers, a
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new supervisor, so to speak,and he was an introvert and I never
knew how to commute unicate with someonelike that, even though I felt probably
I was one as well at thattime, but I had no idea how
to strike up a conversation. Andthat was what really catapulted me to go
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and find a place that would helpme to alleviate that fear of going into
a room and not knowing how tocommunicate, and to be able to be
comfortable any place, anywhere, atany time. And that's when I joined
Toastmasters. Wow, I love that, you know, so there's really great
nuggets right there. And you know, really what calls out to me is
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that awareness piece because awareness is soimportant, you know, and I always
tell you know my clients when I'mcoaching them, is that you know when
you have that awareness or seventy fivepercent of the way there, right,
Because we often go through life withthe blinders on, completely oblivious to our
patterns, to our surroundings. Butwhen we can start to delve deeper and
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actually see some of the patterns thatare in front of us, and often
people are amazing mirrors as to what'sgoing on, you know, in our
own world. I think that's incredible. So being that shy person and then
being in that now thrown in andthrust into family business, that's interesting where
you now could see that ha.It's kind of difficult to communicate with an
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introvert who's not willing to communicate andthere's that mirror like, oh my gosh,
that could just be me, andnow how do I change that?
And to have the willingness to change, I think it's so instrumental in cultivating
that greatness and cultivating that great lifebecause it is within reach for everyone.
So thank you for sharing that story, and I'm actually still really amazed that
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you were that shy kid. Ican't even was I was. I was.
It's hard for a lot of peopleto understand, given where I am
right now. But there's a youknow, there's a Chinese proverb that's says
that the journey of a thousand milesbegins with one single step, and I
believe wholeheartedly that that's what it is. And you touched on that that sometimes
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it takes that moment when you realizeyou need to change yourself in a positive
way. That was what it wasfor me, and taking that one step
realizing, hey, I have aproblem and I need to fix it,
and not keep pretending like it's notthere or hiding or deciding that, hey,
you know what I can, Ican deal with it another time,
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standing up deciding. And I oftentell my clients this, I use three
words with them, and that isdecide, commit, succeed. You have
to make the decision first too.With anything. Furthermore, you have to
make that first step, that decisionthat you need to change or you need
to do something positive in your life, or if it's something that you've been
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really wanting to do on your bucketlist to make that decision, and then
it's about the commitment, the sacrifices, the things that go on behind the
scenes, that in itself when itcomes to my story, oh my goodness,
I gotta tell it's been crazy allaround. But you do that and
then you hopefully succeed. And successdoesn't necessarily mean it ends with a trophy
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or anything like that. Success iswhat you choose to be your success.
If it's just that feeling of beingable to walk into that first meeting and
be comfortable that success. And Ioften let my clients know that let's do
it in small, small phases andget to the success that you want.
I love that because it is goesright back to taking that first step.
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And I think what really trips peopleup and prevents them from taking that first
step is the belief that they needto know how that's going to happen,
and trying to control everything and needingto have answers but in lifetime and the
fear and right it's here no matter. I think that's more of what it
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is. It's the fear will Ifall, will I fail? That's what
holds people back most times. Yeah, and that leads to inaction. Right.
So it's definitely immobilizing being stuck inthat place of fear, right,
But you just take that first step, and it's amazing how things unfold organically
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and naturally when you do take action. You know, the universe rewards action.
Whatever that small action is, there'salways a benefit, and there's a
trickle effect that you know will continuetoo and lead you down to the next
step. And I know in myown life, I mean I've I've had
trajectories that have led me in completelydifferent places. I had no idea where
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I would end up, and thingsjust lead, you know. And there's
there's a quote by Steve Jobs thatI love which says, you cannot connect
the dots looking forward. You canonly connect them looking back. And when
we look at life all of asudden, sometimes just makes not even sometimes
all the time, it just makesperfect sense. You're like, oh my
gosh, that's one thing led tothis, that led to this, And
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it's amazing. You connect those dots, right, Yes, Yes, most
definitely. And that's the way youprogress, right, You progress that way.
You use those moments where you eitherfailed or something happened that you didn't
expect to happen, use us aslearning moments. I also say that,
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you know, don't let fear foolyou, let it refuel you, let
it change you to do things betterinstead of letting it hold you down and
hamper you. So I think that'sthat's beautiful the way you put that in.
And I think that it's important thatpeople understand the true value of those
lessons learn and how they can makeyou change what it will happen in the
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future. Yeah, yeah, it'sso it's interesting because so many people fear
or those lessons or change in life, and it's like, oh, that's
where the magic happens. That's wherethe sweet spots are, you know,
in those moments of drastic change,those hardest lessons. And you know,
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it's funny because in my life andthat was me too, for sure,
you know, years ago, manyyears ago, for sure. But now
I welcome and I embrace change andI love it. I love the lessons
and sometimes they're hard and they're painful, but I always know that there is
a beautiful lesson, so I justwelcome it in now and I'm like,
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Okay, I'm going to find thelesson quickly instead of waiting ten years right,
because I've done that too. Idon't know about you, Roger,
and you're sort of bad, right, of course, No, I agree
with you, of course we haveListen, none of us are perfect.
We're human beings. And there aretimes when we get the lesson right away
and we adapt to it and useit to help us move one. And
then there are times where it takestime, yeah, before we realize,
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oh my god, the lesson wasover there like all these years ago and
I didn't realize it. So ithappens. No one is perfect, And
I think the bigger thing is atleast you're learning, at least learn.
You may have taken, as yousaid me if taking ten years to learn
something or realize something, but atleast you found a way to learn.
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It's when we don't that's when theproblem that really happens. And it keeps
on happening, right, the samething, there's a lessons sort of keep
on popping up, right, becauseit's it's another opportunity to you know,
start to see what you didn't seebefore. And you know, having said
all this, I just want tobe very clear that you know, we
want to make sure that you're notbeating yourself up when you feel like you
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haven't got that lesson right, oryou're fearing, you know, change.
Listen, we have a huge rangeof emotions as humans, right and we
are exactly where we need to bein the moment. So please don't beat
yourself up. You know we wantto have you support yourself. Be your
BFF, not your worst inner critic, not your you know, enemy,
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or the person that you treat thepoorest, because oftentimes, Roger, I
mean you know this, when you'redealing with your clients that you know,
it's amazing and in shocking some ofthe things that they believe about themselves or
they say to themselves that inner criticthat we would never dream of saying something
that's like that to someone else,So why do we do it to ourselves?
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So what can you say to that, Roger? Well, I'll say
this, Tanya, I understand thatcompletely, and I'm gonna start from a
personal a portion of my life.The realization is that I felt like I
didn't have I'll even put it thisway. I would often see friends growing
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up and think they had it all, and I look at myself, the
skinny, shy kid, pimple facedidn't really fit in, so to speak,
and I'd always put myself down andit was and I'll touch on this
probably a little later, but mygrandmother was really instrumental in my life,
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really really instrumental, along with mymom of course, and my dad.
But when I look at major lessonsI learned in life, I always turned
to my grandmother, and I rememberthere would be times when she would just
tell me, you need to believein the beauty of who you are,
you, the beauty of who youare. You are unique, you are
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the only you. You do nothave to try to be anybody else.
But what you need to do isunderstand your value who you are and what
you can bring and those type ofwords. And I mean, this is
a woman who is from the Caribbeanwho may have said it in a different
way, but that was the meaningthat she was getting at and I'll never
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forget that. And the other factorwas is that I always circled myself around
people who can help me to getbetter. And that's another factor that a
lot of people don't do. Theystay in their little corner and they lock
themselves up and feel like I justI'm a failure. I can't do it.
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I can't do it. I alwayssay to my clients, I love
when I see you come in sayingyou can't and you leave saying I can't
believe I did. Right, that'sthe moment for me when when we're working
together, is seeing that. AndI've had others around me who have done
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the same for me, who havemade me realize, you can't do this,
Roger and I go, they say, yes, you can, here's
how. Look and then we gothrough the process. Does it always work
the first time? No, solet's keep that real. But if you
keep going and you stick to theprocess, things happen in a most positive
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way. Yeah, Oh my god, I love that. It's so inspiring
and it's so true because that's abelief that too many people have, is
the belief that I can't, I'mnot enough, it's not for me,
and that same belief that you hadwhen you were younger, that that success
is for other people. I can'tdo that, and that's a falsehood,
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right what we live our lives stuckin a bubble of falsehoods that really impact
the quality of our lives, andit's impossible to live your best life,
to live that greatness within when youhave those self doubts that are bearing you
so to speak right, So it'sso important to be able to start to
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unravel those misconceptions and perceptions that arejust you know, not serving us.
So I'm loving this conversation. Ormy special guest today, Rogers Caesar.
He is an incredible human, superpowerful, dynamic in his voice and in
his communication style. I call hima master communicator. He's spoken on stages
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and actually given over ten thousand speeches. He's actually a world champion as well
when it comes to public speaking.So you know, he's got a lot
of great information to share with you. So we're gonna take a break and
we'll be back with more Roger Caesarwhen we come back here on Saga nine
sixty No Radio, No Problem.Stream is live on Saga nine sixty Am
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dot c A welcome back to themind fat mentor. I'm Tanya Kohler helping
you live your best life. Andyes it is possible. If you're thinking,
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hey, that's not for me,yes it is. So I'm here
to tell you that. And myspecial guest here today is here to tell
you that, Roger A. Caesar. It is such a pleasure having you
on the mindset mentor today, sharingyour gifts, your talents, that powerful
voice that you have. I knowthat you have spoken on many stages around
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the world. You just got backfrom California, and you are helping people
to learn, really I would say, like the art of communication, because
communication is everything in life. Andyou spoke a little earlier about how you
were that shy kid and you didnot have the skills, the communication skills
that you have today. But younow are teaching other people to learn how
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to be a communicator, a bettercommunicator, to find their voice, to
live their greatness. And you dothat through your coaching, your Caesar Empire
coaching services and the talks that yougive, whether it's a TEDx talk or
you know, a personal up closewith individuals or even in a corporate environment.
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And so to me, Roger,that is a gift. And so
I want to acknowledge you for thegift that you are sharing with the world
because I think there's nothing better thanto be able to motivate and inspire the
masses and help them to really findthat greatness. So thank you, thank
you very much. I appreciate thatwell you've got you know, a lot
of great things that you're doing andhelping people. So I'd love to talk
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a little bit about, you know, some of the examples people who've you
seen personally come into your world whomaybe had a negative self belief or you
know, needed some help to getto the next level and whatever that next
level looks like. Because everybody isdifferent, right, and that is great.
And like the beautiful advice that yourgrandmother imparted to you that you spoke
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about earlier was to you know,find your uniqueness, don't be somebody else,
be who you are. And that, oh my gosh, I can't
even imagine having that growing up becauseyou know, my girl, I mean,
my parents were amazing. I lovethem and they're awesome, but I
didn't have that kind of encouragement orbelief because they didn't have the belief in
themselves. So I can imagine,you know, your grandmother, Like,
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how powerful is that? And hermessage that rings true today? Yeah,
she was. She was an incrediblewoman all around. And and I want
to say this, I understand thatthere are many many people in our world
that don't have a figure a personthere that can positively influence them and put
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them on the right path that they'reon and I my heart goes out to
those people because even as a speaker, we try our hardest to inspire and
to motivate our audiences. We tryour hardest to send our messages out into
the world when we have an opportunityor we also are very cognizant of the
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fact that not every time we're gonnareach out to somebody, but we hope
that we do. We hope thatthis message that we send to this individual
or these individuals, maybe they mightbe able to reach out to that person,
and that message might be able toreach out to another person, and
then it reaches that same person whodidn't think there was anybody there for them.
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That's the power of what we doas speakers. My grandmother was one
of those who, in her ownway, was that type of a speaker
in motivating and inspiring me through thelessons she taught me. No she wasn't
on stages, No she wasn't talkinggiving ten thousand speeches or winning championships,
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but she was the quintessential person thatyou would want to have around you.
And even if it came from adifferent source somewhere else, I'm hoping that
even with our conversation here that yourlisteners may have somebody that they know that
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might need to help if they're themselves. If they themselves need it, then
that's fine too. But they maysay, oh my gosh, you know
what, I think that this personneeds to hear what's going on on the
show. And to me, that'sthe greatest gift I can give back to
others. Right, my grandmother gaveit to me. I'm trying to along
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with the many people who I've metalong the way on this journey, I'm
now trying to give it back inthe way that I can. Yeah,
I love that, you know,that's so so deep and far reaching.
I absolutely love that. And Ithink it's important for people also to remember
that. You know, you don'tever want to underestimate the power that you
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have. It could be one sentencethat has impacted somebody's life in such a
magnificent way. And I look backin my own experience, I remember a
stranger at an airport said something tome once and it just it just shook
me. I was like wow.First I was annoyed. I was like,
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Wow, how dare they say that? And then I realized, like,
WHOA wait a second, there's somuch truth in that. And I
always remember that. It was somethinglike I was at an airport and I
was upset and someone said, youknow, didn't know me, didn't know
why I was upset, and said, it's not that bad, and I
was I thought, well, howrude? Are you right? You're interrupting
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my space and you know, Ididn't think anybody was paying attention, but
it just it made me pay attention, and I thought, oh my gosh,
he is absolutely right, it isnot that bad. But we can
get stuck in those beliefs and thenwe become, you know, a victim
when we stay on that path.So it's really great to have that awareness,
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whether it comes through you know,listening to a podcast or a show
like this, or through your grandmotheror your parents, or your or a
stranger. Right, remember that youwere still powerful. Your language is so
powerful that it can really help touplift somebody to so many places that you
never know. Right, So,anybody listening right now who thinks that you
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do not impact anybody, that isnot true. You absolutely do. You
do, you do, and it'sand you're one percent right. And it's
funny you shared that story about youin the airport and that person thing coming
over you. My goodness, itjust flooded me with a couple of memories
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that I've had in that same sense, where out of nowhere there's somebody who
comes and says something that weren't expecting, and in my case, it was
almost like deja vu. Happening twiceto me. The first time was when
I was running track. We weretrying to win the national championship for the
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four by one hundred meter relay andwe dropped the baton and we were the
odds on favorites to win it,and I remember sitting We were sitting in
the middle of the field, dejected, and our coach came over and he
didn't It's almost like he knew thisis not the moment to say anything crazy
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to them. But all he didwas he put his arms on his arm
on our shoulders and he just said, if you believe, you will achieve,
and he left it at that,and he got up and he walked
away. He goes, if youbelieve you will achieve, and I looked
at him and I said, butwe just lost, and he said,
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just think about that when you're ready, and he walked away. Wow.
Right, that's a z master rightthere. It was a moment. It
was a moment because the next yearwe went on to win it. We
went on to win it all,and that was one of the things we
remembered, like, don't sit inthat particular moment of despair and hurt,
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move on, move forward, right. And then it was many years later,
and it's a more a sadder story. It's when my you know,
God rest her soul, my grandmotherpassed away. It was and again that
story alone would take us a whilebefore to talk about. But in a
Coles Notes version, she passed awaytwo days before I was going to the
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World Championship of Public Speaking my firsttime in twenty fifteen, like two days
literally two days before I was goingthere, and the speech I was delivering
was about her. Whoa right,So you could imagine, you could imagine
the pain and how hard it wasn'tand gut wrenching it was to go on
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stage and basically do a eulogy forthe world to hear about this great woman.
And I could not do it properly. It was devastating, and I
was outside. I ran outside afterI performed my speech, and I was
sitting there and a gentleman like you, a gentleman came over and stood over
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me, and all I could seewas his name, and it was Steve.
And he came over and he lookedat me and he said, are
you okay? And I couldn't musterup any words, and then he said
the same thing similar to my coach, Because I don't know what happened.
I will stay here with you,but I believe that you will achieve whatever
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it is that you wanted to do. And he that was and he just
stood there and just kept patting meon the back and stayed with me.
Oh oo, you time right,And it was many years in between.
So again it made me realize theimportance of having people who maybe you don't
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know, but they have those situationalmoments where they come in and they say
or do something that can completely changeyour life around. Oh. I absolutely
love that story. Thank you forsharing that. And obviously you know,
I'm so sorry for your loss withyour grandma because clearly you're so close.
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She meant the world to you,and having to be in that situation,
I mean, just even the thoughtof it would be stressful, but then
actually having to deliver it. That'sa whole other, you know, ball
game there. But that is soimpactful, and you know that person held
space for you right understood that justbeing there, having that presence was so
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important. Uh And and I thinkthat's kind of where, you know,
we can all take that lesson ofhow to hold space for other people where
they're at. You know, oftentimeswe try to come up with a lot
of answers, but sometimes it's betterand it's more powerful and impactful to maybe
say nothing right or to have thoseminimal words that can really sink in in
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those moments of deep need and comfort. I mean that sounded like that person
was so comforting to you in thatmoment. And it goes back to what
I said about you never know theimpact that you had on somebody else's life.
Those words, our language is key. The way that we show up
for people, or the way thatwe hold space for people is such a
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beautiful thing. And so thank youfor going deep and sharing that story.
But it's interesting that, um,you know, you kept on going and
there you are, you know,years later now truly a world champion,
and your grandmother would be so proudof you. Oh, it was a
moment when I placed third in theworld and again, I've been to the
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World Championships four times. That wasmy fourth time in twenty fifteen. Obviously
with that story, twenty sixteen,twenty eighteen, and then in twenty twenty
one, and you're right, Ihad a moment because in twenty twenty one
it was all virtual, so itwasn't a situation like the other the previous
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three where I was actually there inperson to deliver a speech. So when
I delivered that speech, I wasactually in my office by myself, and
when I heard that I had Ihad won third overall. I remember having
that moment. You know, yourphone is ringing in the corner. It's
on vibrate, so you can hearit in the corner there people ringing to
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congratulate. But I had a momentwhen I sat there and literally it felt
like the tears were just gonna gushdown my face because it was a moment
where I felt like, Okay,I finally, I finally did it.
And that moment in twenty fifteen wasa part of that being able to vanquish
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that moment on stage when I completelyfailed in my mind to deliver a speech
that I really wanted to impact theaudience with because of the situation, and
to come full circle and be ableto say, hey, you did it.
You finally broke through and you reachthe top three in the world.
It may have taken you six yearslater, but you did it because you
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kept going forward. And that's thelesson for many people that hey, failures
are going to happen. They're goingto happen. But is it in that
failure that you stop yourself and sayI won't do it again, or do
you find a way to keep movingforward? Oh? So good? Oh
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my gosh, so good. Andthat is because if we look at some
of the greatest successes you know,in life, and the most successful business
people, let's say they always havethese epic failures. Most of the time
it started with an epic failure.And I think it's so important just to
keep on going. And as theysay, let's fail forward, right,
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So when those things that we gofail, right, we just keep that,
keep going, keep going. It'sthe only way to go. You
don't want to fall backwards, youwant to keep moving forward. And I
like that fail forward. I lovethat. I'm going to write that down.
Oh I love that we're gonna keepon moving forward. Here on SONGA
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nine sixty, you're listening to theMindset Mentor. I'm Tanya Kolar. My
special guest today is Rogers Caesar andmore. When we come back after this
break stream us live at SONGA ninesixty, am dot c A and welcome
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back to the Mindset Mentor. Hereon Saga nineteen sixty having an incredible conversation
with Roger Caesar from Caesar Empire Coaching. He is also a world champion when
it comes to speaking on stages.Yes, third place in the world,
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not just in the city or theworld people, so that's pretty impressive.
Roger, thank you for being inthe Mindset Manager. I am loving the
conversation. We've gone deep and youyou've really, you know, given us
a good look into the real Rogerand inspired us to be more and to
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bring out who we are and tonot be afraid of some of the challenges
that were faced in life. Andit was interesting because we took a break
and Roger and I were talking inthe break about, oh, have you
ever had those moments where things arelike so challenging? And we said a
laugh about it because, oh,my gosh, some of the challenges they
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just keep on coming up and youthink, how am I going to get
through this? And it's like whatagain? Another thing and another thing.
But you keep on moving forward,and that's so important. So you're not
alone out there when you've got thosechallenges. We're humans. We all have
challenges. It's just a part oflife. We cannot escape this planet without
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having a few challenges along the way. Exactly exactly. I think that's just
the way it has to be.You have to realize that we're all humans.
It's going to happen to you.It's how you deal with those situations
that matter the most. Yeah,so okay, now when you're client,
it's come to you and they say, okay, I've hit this challenge or
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I've hit a wall, Like,now what do I do? And anybody
listening right now who feels stuck?What words of wisdom can you share to
empower them to keep on trying toyou know, burst through maybe that wall
and see the other side and thepossibilities available to them. I use the
word believe, and here it is. It's an acronym that I use and
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I'm going to break that down foreveryone, right now the word is believe
and it goes like this, boldlyexperience life, imagining, enjoying victorious excellence.
Oh, I'm repeat that for youraudience. I'm gonna repeat that again.
To believe, believe, boldly experiencelife, imagining, enjoying victorious excellence.
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That is the first thing that Itell all my clients, and I
let them realize, let them know, especially those who are writing speeches.
So most of my clients are thereto learn how to properly put together speeches,
properly deliver them that I have clientsthat are in the corporate world who
are trying to learn to do presentations, and they have their moments where they
have doubts, and I tell themthis, and I show them in my
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office a stack of one hundred andfifty different versions of my World Championship speech.
That's how many times I wrote,rewrote, rewrote again and refined it
to get it to where it was. And it just so you know what
it takes. And remember I saidthose three words, decide, commit,
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succeed. That's the commitment that Iput in. My clients come in and
some of them have the confidence.I'm not going to sit here and say
that every one of them come inand they are complete failures that he don't
know what they're gonna do. There'sa lot of my clients that come in
with complete confidence in themselves, butit's the direction of how they where they
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want to go that I helped themwith. And then there are those that
need a little bit more, alittle bit more push to it. And
I recently had one where she wasvery, very uncomfortable being on screen and
talking like this. She didn't knowif she was conveying her message right,
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she didn't know if the way inwhich she was delivering was correct everything.
And I stopped for a second.We stopped and I said, listen,
you're here. You made that firststep, So let's not think of it
from the negative perspective anymore. Butlet's see how we can start building blocks,
how far we can actually start steppingso we can get to that level
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that you want instead of staying atthe bottom of it and looking up and
going there's no way I could dothis. Let's just take one step at
a time, get up on.That first step was to come here and
see me. All right, wedid that. Now let's see how we
can articulate your thoughts and put themon paper. That's another step, and
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so on and so forth. SoI think what it is is that instead
of and this is for everyone,instead of trying to achieve your goals in
massive leaps, break it down intolittle pieces, little winds, so to
speak. Take little winds at atime, like the small ones. Hey,
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I finally decided to go to thegym. And that's a big one
for a lot of people. Butwe're gonna we're just gonna start talking about
that. I decided to go tothe gym, all right, Well that's
a win. Number two is that. You know what I got through my
first workout, that's a win.Don't worry about him. I didn't lose
all the weight I wanted, orI didn't built up as quickly as I
didn't take small winds and boldly experiencelife, imagining, enjoying victorious excellence.
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So darn good, I'm absolutely lovingthat. And that is so important.
Right to reward those winds, thesmall winds, whatever they may be,
it's part of the reward center,right, So when we start to reward
ourselves for those small wins, it'screating and generating more dopamine. Right in
the brain and so that's that feelgood chemical and we want that. And
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the more you do that, themore you will build on that. So
try to reward yourself as many timesas you can. Pat yourself on the
back. It's a job well done. You just put your sneakers on to
get to the gym. Maybe youdidn't even get to the gym, but
you put your sneakers on. ThatListen, that's a win. If you've
been procrastinating and you've never done thatfor so long you've been wanting to,
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Yes, because when you do rewardyourself and from let's say putting on those
sneakers, then you know what,you will get to the gym and then
when you're there, reward yourself,you know, and you don't have to
spend two hours in a treadmill.Right. That's what trips us up.
We're like, we can't do itbecause I have to commit this much time.
You know. I remember the storywhich I thought was really cool.
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Um so it was a coach workingwith a client, and uh, this
gentleman wanted to lose a lot ofweight, right, you know it was
you know, it would be dauntingfor most people. You know the amount
of what you wanted to lose um, And they said, the goal is
this. You're going to put yourclothes on, your your gym clothes on,
and you're going to get to thegym. Right. That was it.
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That was his first task. Okay, so when he did that,
then it turned into you can onlyyou can only work out for ten minutes.
That's it. You can only.You can't do more than that.
You're only allowed to just spend tenminutes. Right. But because what it
is is that you're building that muscle, right, You're you're you're getting in
there and you're building the habit andit's those habits that really dictate the quality
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of what are results are going tobe. Right, So it's just about
developing that muscle. And like Isaid, your your mindset is like a
muscle that needs to be developed instrengthen and so right now, if you're
always beating yourself up and you're fullof lack limitation and doubt, guess what's
going to show up? Right,situations where you hold yourself back, even
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though you know you want to moveforward, you hold yourself back because it's
the programs that are going on,you know, in the background. So
it's important to really become aware.And you've had that awareness in your own
life, Roger, and clearly youhelp your clients to get to that space
of how can I be better thanwhere I am now in this moment,
how can I evolve to the bestiteration of myself, not somebody else?
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Right? And I think that's soimportant. You just touch on something right
there, right there, that thatidea that there are many people that look
at others, and yes, thereis a beauty in looking at someone who
has succeeded and saying, wow,if they can, I hope I can
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be just like them. I oftentell people, don't try to be me,
be the better you. You canlook at me as an example.
And when I was in California,this was a few months ago, not
this time around, but a fewmonths ago, I was in California and
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I met up with a group ofyoung students. Now these students. The
background story is when I was goingto compete in twenty eighteen at the World
Championships. I visited California just ayear before, and they were younger obviously
at the time, and they werejust in awe of this guy that just
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came and spoke there and they hadalways followed me. So when I went
and I surprised them a few monthsago and they'd seen all that I have
done so far. One of theyoung ladies came up to me and she
said, oh my god, Ijust want to be like you. And
without knowing that there was a cameraaround or anything like that, I turned
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her and I said, I don'twant you to be like me. I
want you to be the better you, and I want you to be the
one that one day people will lookat and say, I would love to
be a better version of myself becauseof you. And that to me is
way more important than trying to bea Michael Jordan or trying to be a
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Oprah win for you, or tryingto be Steve Jobs, any of these
people trying to be them. Idon't want to be anybody. When people
say who do I mirror myself?I say, I don't mirror anybody.
I look in the mirror and Isee me. And if I can look
in the mirror and love who Iam, or at least say you know
what, I want to be bettertomorrow. I want to be better tomorrow
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than I am today. If Ican look at myself and try to do
that, then that's better than metrying to take someone else. Yeah,
those are you know, some beautifulwords of wisdom. And sometimes it takes
a lot for people to recognize thatthey are emulating patterns or trying to be
somebody else, because sometimes it stemsfrom childhood and the expectation to be a
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certain way or to fit into thetribe. We stay small, or we
you know, don't speak out,or we're not vocal. So you know,
these conversations are so important, andI know that you know that's part
of what you do in your communicationcoaching business, Caesar Caesar Empire coaching is
helping people to find their voice,and it is so important to be authentic,
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to be real, to be whoyou are. So again, I
just you know, I'm loving thisconversation with you, Roger. I think
it's so timely for people to listento to remember who they are right and
to embrace who they are and wherethey are. And unfortunately we are out
of time, So just another quickminute if you want to share some final
words with the listeners, Roger,and also help people know where they can
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get a hold of you. Well, first I'll tell you where you can
get a hold of me. Iam on LinkedIn. You can reach me
there. Spell my name the correctway or you won't find me. It's
c Ae s A R. RogerCaesar and connect with me there. And
also on Instagram you can get meat my handle Caesar dot Empire. And
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I have my YouTube channel that youcan also subscribe to as well. Final
words, life is hard. Itis difficult. There are moments when you
are going to struggle. There aremoments when you are going to want to
give up. There are times whenyou're going to think that the world is
closing in on you one second ata time and there's nothing you think you
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can do. But I will encourageyou to reach out, find that support
system, those people that hold spacefor you, that allow you to see
the inner greatness within you, evenif you don't see it yourself. Who
allow you to say, you knowwhat, I didn't think I could,
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but you shown me that I can. And to understand that if you believe
in yourself and boldly experience life,imagining, enjoying victorious excellence, the greatness
that you so want and desire iswaiting for you. Look within. Oh
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oh, I love it. Sobeautiful. Roger, such a pleasure.
Thank you so much for sharing yourgreatness and inspiring us to recognize our greatness.
Well, that is a rat fortoday's The minds that maunch are here
on Saga nine six. But rememberto embrace who you are and where you
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are at. Please don't beat yourselfup. We are all experiencing challenges in
life and we learn from those mostchallenging moments. And I can tell you
with a hundred percent certainty that thosegreatest challenges in life are your greatest blessings.
So we'll see you next time.Oh and by the way, if
you want to watch Roger and Iwith this conversation, have a look on
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my YouTube channel. But tune inevery Thursdays at three pm for more mindset
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hello, and welcome to the Mindsetmentor. I'm your host, Tanya Kohler,
helping you live your best life.And you know I'm always, you
know, reminding you that your mindsetis like a muscle that truly needs to
be strengthened and conditioned. So areyou ready for your minds that work out
for today? Well, listen,I hope you are super popped because I
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am really pumped about my guests today. Who is I would call him a
master communicator? And we know howimportant communication is to life. Are you
know? Everyday moments, communication isreally everything. Sometimes that's even the nonverbal
communication, right, I mean,these are all factors that impact the quality
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of our lives. So I wantto talk to are a phenomenal guest who
is an entrepreneur. He is aninternationally renowned public speaker, professional speaker.
He's actually done over oh you know, about like ten thousand speeches. I
told you he's a master communicator.That is a lot of speeches and also
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award winning. He actually won thirdplace in the world twenty twenty one World
Championship of Public Speaking and more.That's impressive because, if you think about
it, that's one of the mostdreaded fears that people have, is speaking.
So we're gonna learn his secrets,his tips, and how also to
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live at your greatness. He isall about inspiring and motivating the masses to
truly find their greatness within because youknow what you have it it is there,
and sometimes we forget that. Sotoday is about reminding you of your
beautiful greatness. Roger Caesar. Itis such a pleasure having you here on
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the mindset mentor welcome my friend.Thank you very much, Tanya, great
to be here. Who Yeah,maybe you know, let's do this because
you know, I know that you'rebusy and you're up to really great things.
You just came back from California doingwhat you love, speaking on the
stages, motivating and inspiring people.But I want to talk a little bit
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about you know, your progression andhow at one time you know, you
weren't really that master communicator. Right, that doesn't happen overnight. That's a
journey. So I'd love to delveinto your journey and what was the catalyst
for you to really start to leadyou down this path. Well, it's
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funny, a lot of people wouldsay to me, well, you you've
got to have been always like this, did you Did you always aspire to
be a speaker? Did you alwaysaspire to be able to share that greatness
with other people? And I oftentell people, no, I was the
kid in school that was so shythat sat in the back of a room
and didn't want the teacher to evencall his name and sweat profusely. Oh
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yeah, And I would profusely profuselyat the sound of my name being called
to go up to the front andto read. And that was that was
me growing up in high school.I think it would probably be my last
year of high school. My secondyear was when I started to open up
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and let the shell kind of startto open here. And that was because
I ran track and field, andI used to let my work on the
track do the talking for me.I wouldn't do a lot of speaking at
all. I was still that shykid. It so, when we fast
forward to where my progression started,it would have been with the family business.
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My parents started a business about thirtyfour years ago now, no,
thirty thirty eight years. Now,we're in our thirty eighth year of business.
And when my father was retiring andI was taking over that business,
I realized that people see you verydifferently if you do not know how to
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properly communicate, especially in the businessworld, and if you have to go
into any meetings and you're fumbling withyour words, and even though you know
exactly what you're talking about, thatcould be a problem. And that's where
it all started, where the lightbulbs, so to speak, went off
for me. I went into ameeting with one of our customers, a
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new supervisor, so to speak,and he was an introvert and I never
knew how to commute unicate with someonelike that, even though I felt probably
I was one as well at thattime, but I had no idea how
to strike up a conversation. Andthat was what really catapulted me to go
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and find a place that would helpme to alleviate that fear of going into
a room and not knowing how tocommunicate, and to be able to be
comfortable any place, anywhere, atany time. And that's when I joined
Toastmasters. Wow, I love that, you know, so there's really great
nuggets right there. And you know, really what calls out to me is
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that awareness piece because awareness is soimportant, you know, and I always
tell you know my clients when I'mcoaching them, is that you know when
you have that awareness or seventy fivepercent of the way there, right,
Because we often go through life withthe blinders on, completely oblivious to our
patterns, to our surroundings. Butwhen we can start to delve deeper and
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actually see some of the patterns thatare in front of us, and often
people are amazing mirrors as to what'sgoing on, you know, in our
own world. I think that's incredible. So being that shy person and then
being in that now thrown in andthrust into family business, that's interesting where
you now could see that ha.It's kind of difficult to communicate with an
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introvert who's not willing to communicate andthere's that mirror like, oh my gosh,
that could just be me, andnow how do I change that?
And to have the willingness to change, I think it's so instrumental in cultivating
that greatness and cultivating that great lifebecause it is within reach for everyone.
So thank you for sharing that story, and I'm actually still really amazed that
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you were that shy kid. Ican't even was I was. I was.
It's hard for a lot of peopleto understand, given where I am
right now. But there's a youknow, there's a Chinese proverb that's says
that the journey of a thousand milesbegins with one single step, and I
believe wholeheartedly that that's what it is. And you touched on that that sometimes
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it takes that moment when you realizeyou need to change yourself in a positive
way. That was what it wasfor me, and taking that one step
realizing, hey, I have aproblem and I need to fix it,
and not keep pretending like it's notthere or hiding or deciding that, hey,
you know what I can, Ican deal with it another time,
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standing up deciding. And I oftentell my clients this, I use three
words with them, and that isdecide, commit, succeed. You have
to make the decision first too.With anything. Furthermore, you have to
make that first step, that decisionthat you need to change or you need
to do something positive in your life, or if it's something that you've been
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really wanting to do on your bucketlist to make that decision, and then
it's about the commitment, the sacrifices, the things that go on behind the
scenes, that in itself when itcomes to my story, oh my goodness,
I gotta tell it's been crazy allaround. But you do that and
then you hopefully succeed. And successdoesn't necessarily mean it ends with a trophy
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or anything like that. Success iswhat you choose to be your success.
If it's just that feeling of beingable to walk into that first meeting and
be comfortable that success. And Ioften let my clients know that let's do
it in small, small phases andget to the success that you want.
I love that because it is goesright back to taking that first step.
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And I think what really trips peopleup and prevents them from taking that first
step is the belief that they needto know how that's going to happen,
and trying to control everything and needingto have answers but in lifetime and the
fear and right it's here no matter. I think that's more of what it
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is. It's the fear will Ifall, will I fail? That's what
holds people back most times. Yeah, and that leads to inaction. Right.
So it's definitely immobilizing being stuck inthat place of fear, right,
But you just take that first step, and it's amazing how things unfold organically
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and naturally when you do take action. You know, the universe rewards action.
Whatever that small action is, there'salways a benefit, and there's a
trickle effect that you know will continuetoo and lead you down to the next
step. And I know in myown life, I mean I've I've had
trajectories that have led me in completelydifferent places. I had no idea where
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I would end up, and thingsjust lead, you know. And there's
there's a quote by Steve Jobs thatI love which says, you cannot connect
the dots looking forward. You canonly connect them looking back. And when
we look at life all of asudden, sometimes just makes not even sometimes
all the time, it just makesperfect sense. You're like, oh my
gosh, that's one thing led tothis, that led to this, And
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it's amazing. You connect those dots, right, Yes, Yes, most
definitely. And that's the way youprogress, right, You progress that way.
You use those moments where you eitherfailed or something happened that you didn't
expect to happen, use us aslearning moments. I also say that,
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you know, don't let fear foolyou, let it refuel you, let
it change you to do things betterinstead of letting it hold you down and
hamper you. So I think that'sthat's beautiful the way you put that in.
And I think that it's important thatpeople understand the true value of those
lessons learn and how they can makeyou change what it will happen in the
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future. Yeah, yeah, it'sso it's interesting because so many people fear
or those lessons or change in life, and it's like, oh, that's
where the magic happens. That's wherethe sweet spots are, you know,
in those moments of drastic change,those hardest lessons. And you know,
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it's funny because in my life andthat was me too, for sure,
you know, years ago, manyyears ago, for sure. But now
I welcome and I embrace change andI love it. I love the lessons
and sometimes they're hard and they're painful, but I always know that there is
a beautiful lesson, so I justwelcome it in now and I'm like,
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Okay, I'm going to find thelesson quickly instead of waiting ten years right,
because I've done that too. Idon't know about you, Roger,
and you're sort of bad, right, of course, No, I agree
with you, of course we haveListen, none of us are perfect.
We're human beings. And there aretimes when we get the lesson right away
and we adapt to it and useit to help us move one. And
then there are times where it takestime, yeah, before we realize,
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oh my god, the lesson wasover there like all these years ago and
I didn't realize it. So ithappens. No one is perfect, And
I think the bigger thing is atleast you're learning, at least learn.
You may have taken, as yousaid me if taking ten years to learn
something or realize something, but atleast you found a way to learn.
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It's when we don't that's when theproblem that really happens. And it keeps
on happening, right, the samething, there's a lessons sort of keep
on popping up, right, becauseit's it's another opportunity to you know,
start to see what you didn't seebefore. And you know, having said
all this, I just want tobe very clear that you know, we
want to make sure that you're notbeating yourself up when you feel like you
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haven't got that lesson right, oryou're fearing, you know, change.
Listen, we have a huge rangeof emotions as humans, right and we
are exactly where we need to bein the moment. So please don't beat
yourself up. You know we wantto have you support yourself. Be your
BFF, not your worst inner critic, not your you know, enemy,
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or the person that you treat thepoorest, because oftentimes, Roger, I
mean you know this, when you'redealing with your clients that you know,
it's amazing and in shocking some ofthe things that they believe about themselves or
they say to themselves that inner criticthat we would never dream of saying something
that's like that to someone else,So why do we do it to ourselves?
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So what can you say to that, Roger? Well, I'll say
this, Tanya, I understand thatcompletely, and I'm gonna start from a
personal a portion of my life.The realization is that I felt like I
didn't have I'll even put it thisway. I would often see friends growing
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up and think they had it all, and I look at myself, the
skinny, shy kid, pimple facedidn't really fit in, so to speak,
and I'd always put myself down andit was and I'll touch on this
probably a little later, but mygrandmother was really instrumental in my life,
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really really instrumental, along with mymom of course, and my dad.
But when I look at major lessonsI learned in life, I always turned
to my grandmother, and I rememberthere would be times when she would just
tell me, you need to believein the beauty of who you are,
you, the beauty of who youare. You are unique, you are
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the only you. You do nothave to try to be anybody else.
But what you need to do isunderstand your value who you are and what
you can bring and those type ofwords. And I mean, this is
a woman who is from the Caribbeanwho may have said it in a different
way, but that was the meaningthat she was getting at and I'll never
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forget that. And the other factorwas is that I always circled myself around
people who can help me to getbetter. And that's another factor that a
lot of people don't do. Theystay in their little corner and they lock
themselves up and feel like I justI'm a failure. I can't do it.
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I can't do it. I alwayssay to my clients, I love
when I see you come in sayingyou can't and you leave saying I can't
believe I did. Right, that'sthe moment for me when when we're working
together, is seeing that. AndI've had others around me who have done
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the same for me, who havemade me realize, you can't do this,
Roger and I go, they say, yes, you can, here's
how. Look and then we gothrough the process. Does it always work
the first time? No, solet's keep that real. But if you
keep going and you stick to theprocess, things happen in a most positive
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way. Yeah, Oh my god, I love that. It's so inspiring
and it's so true because that's abelief that too many people have, is
the belief that I can't, I'mnot enough, it's not for me,
and that same belief that you hadwhen you were younger, that that success
is for other people. I can'tdo that, and that's a falsehood,
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right what we live our lives stuckin a bubble of falsehoods that really impact
the quality of our lives, andit's impossible to live your best life,
to live that greatness within when youhave those self doubts that are bearing you
so to speak right, So it'sso important to be able to start to
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unravel those misconceptions and perceptions that arejust you know, not serving us.
So I'm loving this conversation. Ormy special guest today, Rogers Caesar.
He is an incredible human, superpowerful, dynamic in his voice and in
his communication style. I call hima master communicator. He's spoken on stages
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and actually given over ten thousand speeches. He's actually a world champion as well
when it comes to public speaking.So you know, he's got a lot
of great information to share with you. So we're gonna take a break and
we'll be back with more Roger Caesarwhen we come back here on Saga nine
sixty No Radio, No Problem.Stream is live on Saga nine sixty Am
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dot c A welcome back to themind fat mentor. I'm Tanya Kohler helping
you live your best life. Andyes it is possible. If you're thinking,
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hey, that's not for me,yes it is. So I'm here
to tell you that. And myspecial guest here today is here to tell
you that, Roger A. Caesar. It is such a pleasure having you
on the mindset mentor today, sharingyour gifts, your talents, that powerful
voice that you have. I knowthat you have spoken on many stages around
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the world. You just got backfrom California, and you are helping people
to learn, really I would say, like the art of communication, because
communication is everything in life. Andyou spoke a little earlier about how you
were that shy kid and you didnot have the skills, the communication skills
that you have today. But younow are teaching other people to learn how
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to be a communicator, a bettercommunicator, to find their voice, to
live their greatness. And you dothat through your coaching, your Caesar Empire
coaching services and the talks that yougive, whether it's a TEDx talk or
you know, a personal up closewith individuals or even in a corporate environment.
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And so to me, Roger,that is a gift. And so
I want to acknowledge you for thegift that you are sharing with the world
because I think there's nothing better thanto be able to motivate and inspire the
masses and help them to really findthat greatness. So thank you, thank
you very much. I appreciate thatwell you've got you know, a lot
of great things that you're doing andhelping people. So I'd love to talk
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a little bit about, you know, some of the examples people who've you
seen personally come into your world whomaybe had a negative self belief or you
know, needed some help to getto the next level and whatever that next
level looks like. Because everybody isdifferent, right, and that is great.
And like the beautiful advice that yourgrandmother imparted to you that you spoke
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about earlier was to you know,find your uniqueness, don't be somebody else,
be who you are. And that, oh my gosh, I can't
even imagine having that growing up becauseyou know, my girl, I mean,
my parents were amazing. I lovethem and they're awesome, but I
didn't have that kind of encouragement orbelief because they didn't have the belief in
themselves. So I can imagine,you know, your grandmother, Like,
(20:07):
how powerful is that? And hermessage that rings true today? Yeah,
she was. She was an incrediblewoman all around. And and I want
to say this, I understand thatthere are many many people in our world
that don't have a figure a personthere that can positively influence them and put
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them on the right path that they'reon and I my heart goes out to
those people because even as a speaker, we try our hardest to inspire and
to motivate our audiences. We tryour hardest to send our messages out into
the world when we have an opportunityor we also are very cognizant of the
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fact that not every time we're gonnareach out to somebody, but we hope
that we do. We hope thatthis message that we send to this individual
or these individuals, maybe they mightbe able to reach out to that person,
and that message might be able toreach out to another person, and
then it reaches that same person whodidn't think there was anybody there for them.
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That's the power of what we doas speakers. My grandmother was one
of those who, in her ownway, was that type of a speaker
in motivating and inspiring me through thelessons she taught me. No she wasn't
on stages, No she wasn't talkinggiving ten thousand speeches or winning championships,
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but she was the quintessential person thatyou would want to have around you.
And even if it came from adifferent source somewhere else, I'm hoping that
even with our conversation here that yourlisteners may have somebody that they know that
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might need to help if they're themselves. If they themselves need it, then
that's fine too. But they maysay, oh my gosh, you know
what, I think that this personneeds to hear what's going on on the
show. And to me, that'sthe greatest gift I can give back to
others. Right, my grandmother gaveit to me. I'm trying to along
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with the many people who I've metalong the way on this journey, I'm
now trying to give it back inthe way that I can. Yeah,
I love that, you know,that's so so deep and far reaching.
I absolutely love that. And Ithink it's important for people also to remember
that. You know, you don'tever want to underestimate the power that you
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have. It could be one sentencethat has impacted somebody's life in such a
magnificent way. And I look backin my own experience, I remember a
stranger at an airport said something tome once and it just it just shook
me. I was like wow.First I was annoyed. I was like,
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Wow, how dare they say that? And then I realized, like,
WHOA wait a second, there's somuch truth in that. And I
always remember that. It was somethinglike I was at an airport and I
was upset and someone said, youknow, didn't know me, didn't know
why I was upset, and said, it's not that bad, and I
was I thought, well, howrude? Are you right? You're interrupting
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my space and you know, Ididn't think anybody was paying attention, but
it just it made me pay attention, and I thought, oh my gosh,
he is absolutely right, it isnot that bad. But we can
get stuck in those beliefs and thenwe become, you know, a victim
when we stay on that path.So it's really great to have that awareness,
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whether it comes through you know,listening to a podcast or a show
like this, or through your grandmotheror your parents, or your or a
stranger. Right, remember that youwere still powerful. Your language is so
powerful that it can really help touplift somebody to so many places that you
never know. Right, So,anybody listening right now who thinks that you
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do not impact anybody, that isnot true. You absolutely do. You
do, you do, and it'sand you're one percent right. And it's
funny you shared that story about youin the airport and that person thing coming
over you. My goodness, itjust flooded me with a couple of memories
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that I've had in that same sense, where out of nowhere there's somebody who
comes and says something that weren't expecting, and in my case, it was
almost like deja vu. Happening twiceto me. The first time was when
I was running track. We weretrying to win the national championship for the
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four by one hundred meter relay andwe dropped the baton and we were the
odds on favorites to win it,and I remember sitting We were sitting in
the middle of the field, dejected, and our coach came over and he
didn't It's almost like he knew thisis not the moment to say anything crazy
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to them. But all he didwas he put his arms on his arm
on our shoulders and he just said, if you believe, you will achieve,
and he left it at that,and he got up and he walked
away. He goes, if youbelieve you will achieve, and I looked
at him and I said, butwe just lost, and he said,
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just think about that when you're ready, and he walked away. Wow.
Right, that's a z master rightthere. It was a moment. It
was a moment because the next yearwe went on to win it. We
went on to win it all,and that was one of the things we
remembered, like, don't sit inthat particular moment of despair and hurt,
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move on, move forward, right. And then it was many years later,
and it's a more a sadder story. It's when my you know,
God rest her soul, my grandmotherpassed away. It was and again that
story alone would take us a whilebefore to talk about. But in a
Coles Notes version, she passed awaytwo days before I was going to the
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World Championship of Public Speaking my firsttime in twenty fifteen, like two days
literally two days before I was goingthere, and the speech I was delivering
was about her. Whoa right,So you could imagine, you could imagine
the pain and how hard it wasn'tand gut wrenching it was to go on
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stage and basically do a eulogy forthe world to hear about this great woman.
And I could not do it properly. It was devastating, and I
was outside. I ran outside afterI performed my speech, and I was
sitting there and a gentleman like you, a gentleman came over and stood over
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me, and all I could seewas his name, and it was Steve.
And he came over and he lookedat me and he said, are
you okay? And I couldn't musterup any words, and then he said
the same thing similar to my coach, Because I don't know what happened.
I will stay here with you,but I believe that you will achieve whatever
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it is that you wanted to do. And he that was and he just
stood there and just kept patting meon the back and stayed with me.
Oh oo, you time right,And it was many years in between.
So again it made me realize theimportance of having people who maybe you don't
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know, but they have those situationalmoments where they come in and they say
or do something that can completely changeyour life around. Oh. I absolutely
love that story. Thank you forsharing that. And obviously you know,
I'm so sorry for your loss withyour grandma because clearly you're so close.
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She meant the world to you,and having to be in that situation,
I mean, just even the thoughtof it would be stressful, but then
actually having to deliver it. That'sa whole other, you know, ball
game there. But that is soimpactful, and you know that person held
space for you right understood that justbeing there, having that presence was so
(28:44):
important. Uh And and I thinkthat's kind of where, you know,
we can all take that lesson ofhow to hold space for other people where
they're at. You know, oftentimeswe try to come up with a lot
of answers, but sometimes it's betterand it's more powerful and impactful to maybe
say nothing right or to have thoseminimal words that can really sink in in
(29:10):
those moments of deep need and comfort. I mean that sounded like that person
was so comforting to you in thatmoment. And it goes back to what
I said about you never know theimpact that you had on somebody else's life.
Those words, our language is key. The way that we show up
for people, or the way thatwe hold space for people is such a
(29:33):
beautiful thing. And so thank youfor going deep and sharing that story.
But it's interesting that, um,you know, you kept on going and
there you are, you know,years later now truly a world champion,
and your grandmother would be so proudof you. Oh, it was a
moment when I placed third in theworld and again, I've been to the
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World Championships four times. That wasmy fourth time in twenty fifteen. Obviously
with that story, twenty sixteen,twenty eighteen, and then in twenty twenty
one, and you're right, Ihad a moment because in twenty twenty one
it was all virtual, so itwasn't a situation like the other the previous
(30:18):
three where I was actually there inperson to deliver a speech. So when
I delivered that speech, I wasactually in my office by myself, and
when I heard that I had Ihad won third overall. I remember having
that moment. You know, yourphone is ringing in the corner. It's
on vibrate, so you can hearit in the corner there people ringing to
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congratulate. But I had a momentwhen I sat there and literally it felt
like the tears were just gonna gushdown my face because it was a moment
where I felt like, Okay,I finally, I finally did it.
And that moment in twenty fifteen wasa part of that being able to vanquish
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that moment on stage when I completelyfailed in my mind to deliver a speech
that I really wanted to impact theaudience with because of the situation, and
to come full circle and be ableto say, hey, you did it.
You finally broke through and you reachthe top three in the world.
It may have taken you six yearslater, but you did it because you
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kept going forward. And that's thelesson for many people that hey, failures
are going to happen. They're goingto happen. But is it in that
failure that you stop yourself and sayI won't do it again, or do
you find a way to keep movingforward? Oh? So good? Oh
(31:47):
my gosh, so good. Andthat is because if we look at some
of the greatest successes you know,in life, and the most successful business
people, let's say they always havethese epic failures. Most of the time
it started with an epic failure.And I think it's so important just to
keep on going. And as theysay, let's fail forward, right,
(32:10):
So when those things that we gofail, right, we just keep that,
keep going, keep going. It'sthe only way to go. You
don't want to fall backwards, youwant to keep moving forward. And I
like that fail forward. I lovethat. I'm going to write that down.
Oh I love that we're gonna keepon moving forward. Here on SONGA
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nine sixty, you're listening to theMindset Mentor. I'm Tanya Kolar. My
special guest today is Rogers Caesar andmore. When we come back after this
break stream us live at SONGA ninesixty, am dot c A and welcome
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back to the Mindset Mentor. Hereon Saga nineteen sixty having an incredible conversation
with Roger Caesar from Caesar Empire Coaching. He is also a world champion when
it comes to speaking on stages.Yes, third place in the world,
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not just in the city or theworld people, so that's pretty impressive.
Roger, thank you for being inthe Mindset Manager. I am loving the
conversation. We've gone deep and youyou've really, you know, given us
a good look into the real Rogerand inspired us to be more and to
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bring out who we are and tonot be afraid of some of the challenges
that were faced in life. Andit was interesting because we took a break
and Roger and I were talking inthe break about, oh, have you
ever had those moments where things arelike so challenging? And we said a
laugh about it because, oh,my gosh, some of the challenges they
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just keep on coming up and youthink, how am I going to get
through this? And it's like whatagain? Another thing and another thing.
But you keep on moving forward,and that's so important. So you're not
alone out there when you've got thosechallenges. We're humans. We all have
challenges. It's just a part oflife. We cannot escape this planet without
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having a few challenges along the way. Exactly exactly. I think that's just
the way it has to be.You have to realize that we're all humans.
It's going to happen to you.It's how you deal with those situations
that matter the most. Yeah,so okay, now when you're client,
it's come to you and they say, okay, I've hit this challenge or
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I've hit a wall, Like,now what do I do? And anybody
listening right now who feels stuck?What words of wisdom can you share to
empower them to keep on trying toyou know, burst through maybe that wall
and see the other side and thepossibilities available to them. I use the
word believe, and here it is. It's an acronym that I use and
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I'm going to break that down foreveryone, right now the word is believe
and it goes like this, boldlyexperience life, imagining, enjoying victorious excellence.
Oh, I'm repeat that for youraudience. I'm gonna repeat that again.
To believe, believe, boldly experiencelife, imagining, enjoying victorious excellence.
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That is the first thing that Itell all my clients, and I
let them realize, let them know, especially those who are writing speeches.
So most of my clients are thereto learn how to properly put together speeches,
properly deliver them that I have clientsthat are in the corporate world who
are trying to learn to do presentations, and they have their moments where they
have doubts, and I tell themthis, and I show them in my
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office a stack of one hundred andfifty different versions of my World Championship speech.
That's how many times I wrote,rewrote, rewrote again and refined it
to get it to where it was. And it just so you know what
it takes. And remember I saidthose three words, decide, commit,
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succeed. That's the commitment that Iput in. My clients come in and
some of them have the confidence.I'm not going to sit here and say
that every one of them come inand they are complete failures that he don't
know what they're gonna do. There'sa lot of my clients that come in
with complete confidence in themselves, butit's the direction of how they where they
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want to go that I helped themwith. And then there are those that
need a little bit more, alittle bit more push to it. And
I recently had one where she wasvery, very uncomfortable being on screen and
talking like this. She didn't knowif she was conveying her message right,
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she didn't know if the way inwhich she was delivering was correct everything.
And I stopped for a second.We stopped and I said, listen,
you're here. You made that firststep, So let's not think of it
from the negative perspective anymore. Butlet's see how we can start building blocks,
how far we can actually start steppingso we can get to that level
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that you want instead of staying atthe bottom of it and looking up and
going there's no way I could dothis. Let's just take one step at
a time, get up on.That first step was to come here and
see me. All right, wedid that. Now let's see how we
can articulate your thoughts and put themon paper. That's another step, and
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so on and so forth. SoI think what it is is that instead
of and this is for everyone,instead of trying to achieve your goals in
massive leaps, break it down intolittle pieces, little winds, so to
speak. Take little winds at atime, like the small ones. Hey,
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I finally decided to go to thegym. And that's a big one
for a lot of people. Butwe're gonna we're just gonna start talking about
that. I decided to go tothe gym, all right, Well that's
a win. Number two is that. You know what I got through my
first workout, that's a win.Don't worry about him. I didn't lose
all the weight I wanted, orI didn't built up as quickly as I
didn't take small winds and boldly experiencelife, imagining, enjoying victorious excellence.
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So darn good, I'm absolutely lovingthat. And that is so important.
Right to reward those winds, thesmall winds, whatever they may be,
it's part of the reward center,right, So when we start to reward
ourselves for those small wins, it'screating and generating more dopamine. Right in
the brain and so that's that feelgood chemical and we want that. And
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the more you do that, themore you will build on that. So
try to reward yourself as many timesas you can. Pat yourself on the
back. It's a job well done. You just put your sneakers on to
get to the gym. Maybe youdidn't even get to the gym, but
you put your sneakers on. ThatListen, that's a win. If you've
been procrastinating and you've never done thatfor so long you've been wanting to,
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Yes, because when you do rewardyourself and from let's say putting on those
sneakers, then you know what,you will get to the gym and then
when you're there, reward yourself,you know, and you don't have to
spend two hours in a treadmill.Right. That's what trips us up.
We're like, we can't do itbecause I have to commit this much time.
You know. I remember the storywhich I thought was really cool.
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Um so it was a coach workingwith a client, and uh, this
gentleman wanted to lose a lot ofweight, right, you know it was
you know, it would be dauntingfor most people. You know the amount
of what you wanted to lose um, And they said, the goal is
this. You're going to put yourclothes on, your your gym clothes on,
and you're going to get to thegym. Right. That was it.
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That was his first task. Okay, so when he did that,
then it turned into you can onlyyou can only work out for ten minutes.
That's it. You can only.You can't do more than that.
You're only allowed to just spend tenminutes. Right. But because what it
is is that you're building that muscle, right, You're you're you're getting in
there and you're building the habit andit's those habits that really dictate the quality
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of what are results are going tobe. Right, So it's just about
developing that muscle. And like Isaid, your your mindset is like a
muscle that needs to be developed instrengthen and so right now, if you're
always beating yourself up and you're fullof lack limitation and doubt, guess what's
going to show up? Right,situations where you hold yourself back, even
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though you know you want to moveforward, you hold yourself back because it's
the programs that are going on,you know, in the background. So
it's important to really become aware.And you've had that awareness in your own
life, Roger, and clearly youhelp your clients to get to that space
of how can I be better thanwhere I am now in this moment,
how can I evolve to the bestiteration of myself, not somebody else?
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Right? And I think that's soimportant. You just touch on something right
there, right there, that thatidea that there are many people that look
at others, and yes, thereis a beauty in looking at someone who
has succeeded and saying, wow,if they can, I hope I can
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be just like them. I oftentell people, don't try to be me,
be the better you. You canlook at me as an example.
And when I was in California,this was a few months ago, not
this time around, but a fewmonths ago, I was in California and
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I met up with a group ofyoung students. Now these students. The
background story is when I was goingto compete in twenty eighteen at the World
Championships. I visited California just ayear before, and they were younger obviously
at the time, and they werejust in awe of this guy that just
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came and spoke there and they hadalways followed me. So when I went
and I surprised them a few monthsago and they'd seen all that I have
done so far. One of theyoung ladies came up to me and she
said, oh my god, Ijust want to be like you. And
without knowing that there was a cameraaround or anything like that, I turned
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her and I said, I don'twant you to be like me. I
want you to be the better you, and I want you to be the
one that one day people will lookat and say, I would love to
be a better version of myself becauseof you. And that to me is
way more important than trying to bea Michael Jordan or trying to be a
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Oprah win for you, or tryingto be Steve Jobs, any of these
people trying to be them. Idon't want to be anybody. When people
say who do I mirror myself?I say, I don't mirror anybody.
I look in the mirror and Isee me. And if I can look
in the mirror and love who Iam, or at least say you know
what, I want to be bettertomorrow. I want to be better tomorrow
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than I am today. If Ican look at myself and try to do
that, then that's better than metrying to take someone else. Yeah,
those are you know, some beautifulwords of wisdom. And sometimes it takes
a lot for people to recognize thatthey are emulating patterns or trying to be
somebody else, because sometimes it stemsfrom childhood and the expectation to be a
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certain way or to fit into thetribe. We stay small, or we
you know, don't speak out,or we're not vocal. So you know,
these conversations are so important, andI know that you know that's part
of what you do in your communicationcoaching business, Caesar Caesar Empire coaching is
helping people to find their voice,and it is so important to be authentic,
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to be real, to be whoyou are. So again, I
just you know, I'm loving thisconversation with you, Roger. I think
it's so timely for people to listento to remember who they are right and
to embrace who they are and wherethey are. And unfortunately we are out
of time, So just another quickminute if you want to share some final
words with the listeners, Roger,and also help people know where they can
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get a hold of you. Well, first I'll tell you where you can
get a hold of me. Iam on LinkedIn. You can reach me
there. Spell my name the correctway or you won't find me. It's
c Ae s A R. RogerCaesar and connect with me there. And
also on Instagram you can get meat my handle Caesar dot Empire. And
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I have my YouTube channel that youcan also subscribe to as well. Final
words, life is hard. Itis difficult. There are moments when you
are going to struggle. There aremoments when you are going to want to
give up. There are times whenyou're going to think that the world is
closing in on you one second ata time and there's nothing you think you
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can do. But I will encourageyou to reach out, find that support
system, those people that hold spacefor you, that allow you to see
the inner greatness within you, evenif you don't see it yourself. Who
allow you to say, you knowwhat, I didn't think I could,
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but you shown me that I can. And to understand that if you believe
in yourself and boldly experience life,imagining, enjoying victorious excellence, the greatness
that you so want and desire iswaiting for you. Look within. Oh
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oh, I love it. Sobeautiful. Roger, such a pleasure.
Thank you so much for sharing yourgreatness and inspiring us to recognize our greatness.
Well, that is a rat fortoday's The minds that maunch are here
on Saga nine six. But rememberto embrace who you are and where you
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are at. Please don't beat yourselfup. We are all experiencing challenges in
life and we learn from those mostchallenging moments. And I can tell you
with a hundred percent certainty that thosegreatest challenges in life are your greatest blessings.
So we'll see you next time.Oh and by the way, if
you want to watch Roger and Iwith this conversation, have a look on
(47:30):
my YouTube channel. But tune inevery Thursdays at three pm for more mindset
workouts. No Radio, no Problemstreams live on SUGGA nine sixty am dot C
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