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Go Sean. It's in between,all right. So I was just looking
at all the timagutchies you can get, and they've got stuff like one piece
ones and Spy Spy versus family andspis family side family. They got Jurassic
World ones, Kingdom Hearts Story onepac Man. I didn't either, but
I pulled out the instructions. Imean, now, given it's in seven
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languages, but but it's sides.So it's lots to do on how to
cover up Grogu with a blanket,how to play with him if Grogu goes
asleep, he goes asleep for alittle while, and you can't do anything
else with him until he wakes up. I'm just gonna warn your mine.
Can't this be an app? Mine'sgonna die. I just know it.
Look at this, just be anapp. You're gonna try to make it
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die? No, I won't try, but I know what will happen is
I'll get caught. It's just likewhere we talk about Star Wars Galaxy of
Heroes, that I forget something's goingon, or I'm get involved in life,
and sure enough I'm gonna look overan art two is gonna be like
a pile of oil. Richard canget my tim I got you forever for
the app. You can app itup. Yeah, it is kind of
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weird that this is still an actualdevice, you digital device out and it's
doing so well that has that manybrands under it. Yeah, all right,
so let's figure out what the inbetween beyond that is. I was
gonna talking about Transformers because you broughtup the different single Transformers movies and I
actually saw the first one. Ithink I saw most of Bumblebee at home.
Bumblebee is a sweet, kind ofgood character. Correct. Yeah,
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it's a VW bug originally Corvette anoptimist. Prime is that a bad guy.
Megatron is a bad guy, thankyou, okay please? So anyway,
the what was going with this isthese are already um unrecognizable machine imagery
when they're in their robot or sorry, when they're in their vehicle dinosaur modes,
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they're recognizable properties. But the minuteyou take them out and turn them
in their robot entities, for me, the movie CG just became messy car.
But didn't know what I was lookingat. I couldn't visually tell that
this random arm tire punching the headof a like they look very similar,
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very metallic parts altogether. That yeah, it looked like an arm, but
when you have an arm punching anotherarm that look exactly the same, you
can't distinguish like you can with ahuman question and stuff. And at least
and when they would do Terminator,at least Terminator was a humanoid figure,
so it could kind of see thesimplicity of the Terminator, but not when
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you have these two giant robots thatthey've had to unfold from their vehicle form
to kind of largely keep them closeto their vehicle form. It works in
a cartoon because you can use thesebright primal colors. You can have a
very simple animation to kind of allowyou to see the blocks. But the
minute they went to the CG,I just the movie was. Every time
there was a battle scene, I'mlike, that's a mess. I have
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no idea was quoting and that's actually, well, I didn't want to watch
anymore. It wasn't It wasn't reallythat I you were defended by the It
wasn't a fan of Michael Bay orwhatever. It was just that I just
visually could not tell what's happening inaction sequences and I'm like, this is
too much for me. Do youknow. That's one of the reasons that
I do not like the climactic lightsaberduel in Revenge of the Sith because Obi
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Wan and Anakin both have blue lightsabersand it just looks like a word,
and I feel like Anakin if hehad already had a red one at that
point, it adds to that.It just that simple differential makes it like,
Oh, I get what's happening.It's being a differential of You've seen
people like debating the lightsaber colors andthe Asoka trailer the bad guys. It's
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not red, it's orange. OhI did hear something that Feloney saying that
Vader sometimes when he would because ofthe way it was composited in Star Wars,
sometimes it would actually look orange andhe was swinging it. And that's
always kind of using that as ajustification. It's those things that there's a
folklore built to it. But atthe same time, those simple ideas of
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a different I mean, it's almostlike an in between. It's not the
angry red, but it's also notblue. You kind of get it off
of red a little bit. Imean, if it's wind. You can
have purple, what what colored?What did color? You've got a black
one with a white outline? Whatif an orange? They may not they
may not have gone into the battlesequence thinking that the two same colored lightsabers
are going to cause the problem thatwas going to cause the visions maybe name
stuff, but when you're coordinating sometype of fight or dance or anything,
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you really need to have that downvisually in a simple format so your audience
can follow what's going on. Imean, unless your your illstr goal is
just complete and total chaos. Um. But I see it in comic book
panels all the time, where youknow, the the art doesn't necessarily the
color. They art does necessarily conveywhat the action needs to happen for me
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to follow what's happening. Happens inall comics all the time because you're your
storyteller is now different, right,So I think that to that example,
if you have what's is it Bizarrowthat is the backwards Superman, Yeah,
yeah, I would almost guarantee withoutseeing a panel in front of me.
His costume may be similar to Superman, but there are differences to it.
Tour, when I visited darker colordarker color, slightly off of it,
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so that I'm looking, I cansee that. It's when you start doing
those things and it's you can't soI get what you're saying about the transformers.
I would that's it's funny because thetrailers I would see just I was
like, it just looks like amess of machines to me and visually comes
across like that, you know,the uhum to call out a specific book,
there was a book that Sean recentlypicked up, the graphic novel.
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Before that, I was reading insingle issues, um doing patrol no Now
I'm drawing a blank Vertigo James Tennianum. I saw some like, ok,
it's niceth like And I'm so usedto comic books with characters being in superhero
offits that when you do a castof just regular people wearing street clothes that
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change day to day. As theychange their clothes, you're the personality.
You really need to give them sometypes of distinguishing features or hair or glasses
or even a skin tone or somethingso I can distinguish them from one another.
I think, and sometimes when youtake those same characters that in nice
Us in the Lake, as muchas it was I couldn't follow who people
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were because they would move them inand out of shadow. So even if
you're looking for something related to skintone, sometimes characters would take their glasses
off. Sometimes they would change theiroutfits from the next day, and they
weren't calling out their name every fiveseconds. So it was really hard for
me to follow that book on asingle issues because I couldn't tell who the
characters. I don't know who theartist was, but there's an artist that
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says, a really good comic bookcharacter, you can just tell who they
are by their silhouette, their hairstyle, the body style. You can just
say, silhouette, Hey that's Supermansilhouette. Hey that's Batman silhouette. Hey
that's wonder Woman. You see therope on there, and so you know,
you've got to have good design featuresto be able to pick things out
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easily. Yeah, I think backto the one of the and it was
a great lesson I learned. WhenI was in school, we would go
out and shoot stuff. And Iwas shooting something one day, and you
know what they would allow us todo. If you were that director,
you assembled, you did all thechoices like you would and I remember that
I wanted two young kids. Itwas supposed to be Era, and I
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thought, put them in T shirts, roll up to things like this,
will we put them both in whiteT shirts. And when we got the
film back, I looked them like, even though they you two don't look
anything like, but I put youboth in white T shirts. Is like
your eyes got confused. And myteacher guy named unless you were planning on
doing that? Yeah, and hewhen we looked at it, he's like,
you know the problem And I waslike, they look like he said,
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I saw it the day you weredoing it. But the only way
you would do this and learn fromis if I let you make this mistake.
And I looked at my footage andmy footage was shit. Yeah,
but that's what you have to do, you know. And that's the weird
thing. So I and when Abbyfell in Love with the Outsiders, if
you ever watched that, a bunchof hooligans wearing white T shirts, except
that one will have a blue andthey get over it and they've sliced the
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shoulders, so you know that's whothat is, those little bit or they
might have black piping on the shirt. Think about you know, the bad
batch or something like that. Wehave all these clones and that thing.
They give them different things, atattoo on a face, or maybe one's
a little bit bigger than the otherone, or one wine and have something.
Yeah, it's different when we dojust a movie like this, you
know, and it's just normal clothing. But again today this would work.
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Richard's wearing a peanut shirt that's gray. You're wearing black or black and a
hoodie and I've got on pretty mucha very vibrant blue. Those would work,
But you get into those things likethat. I think that's one reason
I don't like those kind of movies, just because they look like a mish
well and and not to Caught aNice House and the Lake again. But
they would advance days, and soif you're going to do distinguishing outfits for
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your characters, they need to asthey as the days change, or the
terror if we came back, ifwe were visited the same video the next
day, and the three of uswarrings of the couple different, right storytelling,
you'd have to make sure we sawsomething different. But we're changing our
clothes. We moved, right,We're not always wearing the same yellow shirt
with a zigzag across it for CharlieBrown, Right, But so how do
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you balance those two things? It'sthe same is that if you go watch
those uh what is it? Xand Pearl and they're about to make another
one of that, you know,the first one when they go down to
that ranch and they're making a pornwhere you've got a black guy, a
white guy. You've got two whitegirls, but none of them the white
girls, one's blond ones a darkerhead that you have those things that make
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your eye go I immediately it's muchlike the profile thing. There's something about
you that's different than that person.I don't ever doubt who you are.
Yeah, well, you know weend up having little filmmaking time. Yeah,
it's not just a pop culture bullshittoday anything else that's I know.
Richard's got work he needs to getto. I do. I do.
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I'm looking at though. Well,the only thing that we just saw we
saw her in iNFiNiT d pool.That's right, she's an interesting actress.
Did we finish watch it? Atthe same time, Morgan Freeman tells me,
we got to get away from worryingabout that because you're you're not being
you don't go to a doctress.You don't go to a doctress. You
don't go to a d interest.You go to a doctor and a dentist.
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I'm fifty six years old. WhenI make the mistakes, I'll own
them and I'll say whatever. I'mstruggling a little bit right now with when
our postal carrier comes in, becauseI was want to call him a postman,
postal delivery, post postal carrier,postal carri I know it sounds a
little weird. Oh, Santie Nielsenratings are now saying that the Mandalorians viewership
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has increased over time with this season. The big the big headlines had been
that had gone down now really reallywell, you know they got to woke
and they go broke, right,and did they get woke? Did they?
I don't know? Did the Santisdeclare this for us? Yeah,
Chud's will find some reason to hateit. Well, you know, because
the Soca was on at some point. No, because Bocutan got the sword.
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Now, No, because I mean, who cares. I am so
glad the company I work for isbringing back their old um group's board because
we see that people are and youif you look at the numbers. People
are turning away from social media forthat reason. You know, you go
to Facebook up with my three Dprinting. There are Facebook groups for it.
Yeah, mostly those are pretty nice, but you'll go to other facebo
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groups where they're just a meaning andnasty. Well, we're bringing that stuff
back because it's like we're going tomoderate and there's no nastiness to this,
and why can't we go back tothat? Why do we have to be
that. I'm the nerd that knowsthe most and this is stupid, And
it's because I don't want keep Somepeople want to be gatekeepers and if it's
not made to their specifications, andit's crap. And even though they don't
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own it, you know, startstart. I grew up with Star Wars.
I agree, So I'm the onlyone that knows exactly how it should
be, even though I don't workwith the company, don't make any So
you're saying they're bringing back the boardsbecause they want because people want that kind
of interaction to give and they're beingdisillusioned by the Twitter Twitter on their market
researches. That's kind of where they'regoing with that. And it's like they've
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had and I It's funny because Ihaven't told shell. I was listening to
one of our internal things and Isaid, wow, why don't they go
back that? Sure enough, forlike within a month, it was like,
we're going to launch that back back. It's popular. Yeah, I
mean, if it works, andthe people were asking for it, we
want those back. We hated thatyou got rid of it. It's funny
because I was talking to my let'ssee Shelley's there'd be her first cousin.
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But he's a young seventeen year oldand is there an old seventeen year old?
Sorry, So we were talking andit would start off video games,
and he likes me because I knowthat kind of thing. But he starts
saying, I'm playing this and this, and I said, Drew, I
just don't play games as much asI used to. I mentioned you said
that's to the consternation of my friendSean, who's let's play. But we
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got to talking and I said,one of the things that got me away
from it was how Fortnite becomes thisexactly the same thing, where it's just
a bunch of kids into face,hump you, and once they kill you.
I said, I long for gamesthat tell me a story and I
can go through them. It wasthe funny And this is why I said
young seventeen. We were all seventeen. Obviously, we all had that.
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I got the world figured out.He's like, with those games dead,
they'll never be back, and Iwas like, trust me, they'll be
back with everything. Star Wars iscoming out with another one single player only.
Yeah, and then they're that openworld game that they've been alluding to
forever that you know, the moreand more of those things, you know
that as much as I do,how much it will flip back to what
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was before everything old is And howdo you make a seventeen year old No,
No, we'll never play them like, dude, excuse me, I've
got to play them him. Igot you real quick, that's right.
I brought up the Furby earlier.At that point, you look at him,
You're like, Um, you don'trealize you're about to age out of
the generation that matters. You don'tany true, Yeah, you don't even
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realize your opinion the matter anymore.I've talked about this periodically over the for
the podcast time. But yeah,I see, uh, toys that were
popular for a particular generation that wasthirteen and fifteen is coming back, coming
back again, and they're buying thecomics. They're buying the expensive a Power
Rangers movie again with the original PowerRangers. So who do you think you're
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gonna be watching that? The kidsdid watch Power Rangers when they were growing
up. Well, look at vinyl. Everything becomes digital and you think we're
gonna get eight tracks back? Fuckno, that is the worst. Me.
We got cassettes back. But Imean, my kid buys vinyl.
That's what she wants on everything,and that tangible nature of it. We
all thought that would never ever comeback. It's like I did. I
got rid of all my stuff,and I really stuff. She even she's
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like, did you ever run thisalbum? Yeah? Can I have it?
I don't know where the fuck thatis. No, you can't go
to the record store and buy itfor expensive now, Oh holy shit.
She goes and buys it, andthat shit can be expensive. But it's
cool. I like her like amusic, So I'm not gonna bitch about
it. Yeah, I think thatmay be it. I think we hit
it Richel. You got to godo some work. We actually churned through
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two weeks and no time, sothat was kind of fun. We'll be
back next week with a few moreepisodes and guess what after that, it's
the end of this movie and wewill move on with Gee and Gloy.
Usual word Glee and Joy. Ithought you were naming like a direct Glee
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