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On today's Men of the Apes throughthe magic of VHS technology, pausing and
whatever, I found a really badcontrary error. Who drinking bout? Hello
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and welcome to Many of the Apes, The Daily podcast where we break down
every minute of the plenty of theeight movies, one minute a time.
I'm Todd across from me having hismorning snow as Richard. Richard, I
want to ask you to speak underyour mouthful, how you don't just m
and Sean teasing that he has founda lovely continent here. So, because
we are all kind of sick ofwhere this movie is taking us, I
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don't think we need to ponder anythingbefore we get going to LUs jump right,
Friday done one oh five, Sean, what's going on? It's minute
one oh five with anger and bulletsand sparks, and ends with Davidson finding
pericle. All right here it comesminute one oh five Planet of the Apes
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as Men one to five. Wehave an Obrohn's worth of apes and humans
too, display pods worth of humansand apes, so many wild humans and
apes that he minus two girls anda pod has arrived as a battle pauses.
Here we go with a minute oneoh five visually is a lot.
We're still we still have Fade withinthe command area of the glass down protecting
the our our party of heroes,I'll call them that. On the outside.
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It cuts back and forth and backand forth. There's nothing more to
say than you cut from that toLeo. We see Thade. I guess
he shooting the entire time because wesee sparks flying off. He flips around.
He runs and runs up on thedoor because he's so mad. He
runs at it again. He flipsyet again, he runs, he pounds
at it. Everyone is watching him. The camera pans around. We have
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rickoshing bullets. We see if they'dshoot at the glass. Har steps back,
though he knows that glass would savehim. They continues to pound on
the door. Leo watches him.They shoots, he shoots, He pounds,
hr looks, theyd goes. Hekind of growls at the door.
Then we get lots of sparks floppingaround, everybody watching until we get a
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cloud of smoke in the room,and the smoke clears and Fade is whimpering
beneath In fact, the captions evensay whimpering beneath the console, and we
see some sparks shoot out though he'snot shooting where that the sparks have been
the ricochets. I guess that couldjust be electrical spark, but they're looking
back at them. Before it endswith Leo, suddenly we cut inside the
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little cage where par He's is layinginjured, and Leo pops into and that's
how we end. Visual lots ofsparks, lots lots of sparks, and
you know, there's this is thisis this should be the climatic, you
know, crescendo of the moment,because they is so upset that his false
structure has crumbled, right, Butthere's nothing to that. And it also
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feels like with all this ricochets andeverything, that they're setting it up for
him to get hit by a bullet. And I agree, I mean how
he shoots so many times? Howmany how many bullets are there? Yeah?
This gun? I mean, ifif Leo had been smart and kept
up with this gun, he couldcontrol this world. Because it's an endless
round of bullets. I can killeveryone. Now. I do enjoy the
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parkour of him flipping and everything,but it just feels a little too weightless,
Like I like him doing it,but when he's in the air spinning.
It feels like he's on wires.It does, and you know,
then you can you can have themoment when he lands at five seconds and
if you pause that on the face, you can tell us not tim Roth.
He weren't. But you know,hey, that's that's a movie making.
But that was my Here's what Idon't like about it is that I
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don't the sparks accurse. I knowthe guns supposed to be going off,
but it don't see him shooting.And I also don't understand the logic or
why he's doing this. He justit's him raging like he did when he
brought down the chandelier before he broughtout the army, just showing that he's
kind of what, he can't controlhis emotions. He's having his mental break,
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right, That's basically what this is. I actually do like see him
kind of skulking under the console.But I like that shot too, But
it was a lot of moments ofthe gun firing to get to their almost
if you were properly using the gunas a as a message, then he
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probably should have shot himself and notnecessarily. Just don't you to get the
whimpering though, don't you feel likeI can't think of a movie example of
this, but you know, likea serial killer type moment where we see
and I know this doesn't currents onthe slance, but it'd be like if
Buffalo Bill suddenly had a mom thatchilling at him and he's like, god,
mom, Okay, you know you'veseen those moments before. I feel
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like they should have had his fathertreating him something so that that little boy
that wants to whimpering and yeah,that he has to go back. There
should have been some hint to itbefore, because he has been such a
domineering, crazy, controlling figure.I don't, I don't. I don't
buy the whimpering. I like it. I think it's a cool idea.
I just don't think it's earned atall. All right, here's the continarity
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air. Let's hear it. Allright, So this is earlier, whenever
he first got the gun. Andyou see, take a look at the
gun. It's got like a blackbarrel on top, and it's silver on
the bottom, and the the muzzleactually sticks out a little bit. Can
you see that? Yeah, youmight need to come yeah, yeah,
come over here, turn back towardsme. All right. See he's got
a black barrel, silver body.The muzzle sticks out a little bit right,
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well, whenever I just happened topause it at thirty seconds end.
Take a look at the gun thathe's shooting with. That just looks like
a standard handgun. It does.It doesn't look like future ray gun.
Okay, you want to know it'sweird, so you show that. And
I had no idea the frame Ipaused on with someone with the silver I
just happened to be there. That'skind of weird, right, different,
that is completely different guns. Sowhoever is in charge of props, either
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they couldn't find the original one orthey just thought it was gonna be so
much smoke. We don't need that. Man. You look at that,
and that is just a class ahand that's just like a nine millimeter or
something. And maybe it's because theprop gun, the space gun didn't really
fire what they wanted it to,by the way, because of all you
know, the shooting on that AlecBaldwin movie. Yeah, and there are
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companies out there that have talked aboutwe don't need to have live guns on
sets anymore because you have you seenthose movie. Those guns now that just
simply have a white flash so thatthey know where to add. Yeah,
like john Wick, they all theguns on there are nonfirable um and they
have like little motors in him sothat when they pulled the trade away,
you get the recoils, so youdon't have to have an actor doing that.
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So it feels like that, justlike there was a scene in john
Wick three, I think where they'refighting in a hallway and they're throwing knives
at each other and they're all behindplate glass and they smash a glass to
get and every glass in there wascg. There was glass, so that
they could do that every time andthey didn't have to replace and clean up
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are and everything. That's smart.Yeah, I loved I saw a special
piece on YouTube or something about thecompany. They're like, we are we
are working actively to produce guns thatpeople There is no there's no reason to
have a gun that can fire anactual bullet on a set anymore. What's
what's the what's the case against Baldwin? I'm confused why he's also being sort
it is it a civil suit?Is that what the looking for his money?
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Well? I think it's at firstit was gonna be something like manslaughter
because he did it. It wasn'twasn't his fault. But it was a
civil case, right, not acriminal case. I think it's I'm sure
case it's gonna be something with therewas stuff properly followed on the set,
and you're a producer on this,so you're in charge of I just I
would nobody's going to come out ofwinner in this. But but getting back
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to the good good of it is, maybe it's going to change the industry
to that point because the company,I was going to say, the one
that they were working on was likea machine gun, and they're saying that
you really look at this all thisis an electronic device. They put a
little canister so the muzzle can lightlysend out a little bit of flame and
smoke, and then the end ofthe barrel is a white light pop.
And they said, and then ifyou want to add anything else, now
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it's instantly trackable. And I waslike the muzzle flayerday. But you look
at this and they put this gunin here, and obviously you see the
pop on it, and you knowmade back then this was a gun that
shot some kind of device. Idon't know why they would have done that.
That's unless these are pickups and theydidn't have that gun handy. Yeah,
it's very strange to go for acompletely different looking gun. Yeah.
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So basically the minute is just nothingback and forth, him raging in the
until we get the whimper. Yeah, and at the end we see we
cut directly from the whimper, andyou know, that's actually nicely to go
over to another wounded date. Yeah, And so they're both wounded, and
then the shots composition there are structuresaround both of them. So I mean,
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that's a nice edit that they endup going back to Pericles laying there.
Okay, so I think that Pericleslaying there might be actually right from
whenever he crawled in and thumped andthen maybe Davidson came over and did it,
and then they cut that to behere maybe maybe oh that's what you're
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saying, yeah, because yeah,because he's he's still laying in that same
position, which makes me think that'sa human being there, because if it
was really Pericles, they might havecut to it close up at the face
asleep first or something like that.Well, that's a minute one oh five.
That is the end of it,and I'm actually surprised we did eleven
minutes on that. Again, wedid. I'm shocked that there were eleven
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minutes in that. Uh, we'regetting closer, Richard. Yeah, Sean,
I didn't know. I didn't.I don't know if I told you
this. Sean actually wants to dothis movie over again. We're gonna have
to start over. Yeah, hewants to actually watch it non stop all
the way through. I mean,we got spared from dialogue in this minute.
That is true. It is nothingbut action and reaction. That may
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be the name of the episode ofaction interaction. Yeah, all right,
that's it. We'll be back tomorrow. Within between, anybody know anything you
want to talk about with in between? Yeah, not really. There's gotta
be some pop culture shit, youknow. I don't want to just have
to go to the front page Yahooand see what they're talking about, but
we might have to do that.Complain about everything going on with point of
sales. There you go. We'llbe back tomorrow. We might talk about
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point of sales, we might talkabout for the audience. With that,
we'll talk about something fun. We'llfind it. Everyone have a fantastic Friday.
You know my name By everybody,