May 9, 2023 • 14 mins
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(00:00):
Hey, everyone, It's Todd andI'm Jeff. We're two lifelong friends who
decided we want to make a movietogether, and I wanted to let everyone
know we're actually starting a podcast aswell that's going to tell all about the
struggles and the triumphs and the lessonsthat we've learned along the way during the
movie making process, from writing thescript to finding the cast, to shooting
the scenes and editing the final product. You, the listener, will have
(00:22):
behind the scenes access. Plus alongthe way, we'll be interviewing industry professionals
to get their take on the wholeprocess as well. So if you've ever
wanted to make a movie on yourown, this new podcast is for you.
Make sure to head out to yourfavorite podcasting delivery service and look for
Jeff and Todd make a Movie andhit the follow button. On today's Man
(00:43):
of the Ape, scurtis being agood girl Lane in the Sun about Hello,
(01:29):
and welcome to Minute the Apes,the daily podcast where we break down
every minute of the play of theape movies women at a time. And
I tried to get my words inthe fast as I can before Richard falls
asleep because he's ever yawn. Ijust yawned that was a matter. I
feel tired. Did he just hityou all of a sudden? My kind
of yeah. Didn't you hate thosedays? You're like, I'm okay,
and then it's like, don't don'tback Like I just had some caffeine,
like thirty minutes ago, I'm like, do I need more caffeine? Will
not help or will do nothing?What times you wake up this morning?
(01:53):
For look, thirty I rolled overand I was like, oh, I
gotta go back sleep. I gotup. I think I got out of
that. Do you get it tope in the middle of night? Oh?
Yeah, I don't. I alot of water tears okay, and
I have water by the bed.I'm always usually get up once to night.
I try. I am such ashitty sleeper. I know that.
(02:14):
To me, No, I'm sucha shitty sleeper that I know that if
I wake up, I won't goback sleep. And so I try to
like stop drinking about an hour beforewe go to bed, just to hopefully
note. I get just got likecotton mouth during the night. It's not
like I sleep on my mouth open, but I just get dry mouth during
night. So I have a bottleof water just like, grab it.
I figured out what I clothes,just grab drinks Sam put it back down,
(02:37):
and then a couple hours later,I gotta go bathroom. All right,
I'll sleep talk aside, Richard.Are you with us? Are you
awake? I'm awake. Do Ineed to come slap your ass? No?
All right, that's a good thing. I pee with my pants down.
Hey, we are completely going offthe cliff now where all these minutes
(02:57):
are mashing together in our heads.By the time Friday comes, who the
fuck knows where we'll be. Seantell us where we start and where we
end with minute one seventeen. Allright, we're gonna start in one seventeen
with labor supervisor Brian Rock and endswith com easy for me to say,
compositing supervisor Dome Hubler. Right herecomes riveting one seventeen. We still got
(03:21):
the house, because that's the bestpart about it. We're going through.
We got prop maker foreman, awelding supervisors, a welding foremans, and
sculptors mold makers, which mold makers. That's very fascinating. I love Baker,
especially the old way of making modelsand whatnot that actually infection molding.
(03:43):
That's pretty cool. And here Iam the one that does the three D
printing now and knows that's kind oferadicating. Now we're getting the special effects
with the Baker crew. Yeah,Sinnovation Studios, wigs and hair pone Latex
trying to see if there's any interestingnames in here to The problem is special
(04:04):
probably patching and you get now whatthe I L M A R. Yeah,
I am got knocked by Sean.I would like to say that as
Sean Jackson. That put you down. Yeah, that here comes the end
of them. That was just abad composite crash. They're very when you
get into compositing, when you're you'recompletely layering elments like that, when you
(04:28):
know what to look for, yousee it every time. And the problem
is water is really hard to simulateit. Especially even today today it's harder.
They can do it. But Istill think about The Phantom Menace and
the scenes of Naboo where you seepeople leaving and they had these cliff sides
with water coming off and all thatis is salt. Yeah, because you
can't miniaturize water. No, That'swhy when you see old stuff from like
(04:54):
the fifties and stuff of a modeland it always looked like a little toy
in a bathtub and stuff like that, because you can't make water miniature very
hard. You shoot a lot ofslow motion with that to try to slow
down and I'd weight to it,but it never makes it looking more fake.
But I loved that Salt Element twowhen I saw how they did it.
But those look real. That's apretty good it comes across. Okay,
(05:15):
I tease us yesterday what we're goingto talk about today because there's not
a lot to talk. We've alreadyripped this film apart. We've already gotten
into this gay for you people thatgot credited. Yeah, let's talk about
the films and where they rank foryou. So we have now done six
films one six. Who would liketo be my first subject of telling me
what your ranking is for the film? Sean, you're angering your mic.
You go do it, all right? So are you? Are we going
(05:38):
from bottom to top or top togo from your worst to your favorite?
All right? So worst, I'mstill gonna go with a Battle. If
you think Battle is the worst filmthan this, yes, okay, this
one only wins because it's got futureSuperFect special effects. Okay, I go
Battle. Uh, Conquest this one, Tim Burton, Um beneath escape Planet.
(06:09):
Okay, all right, Richard,uh, let's see me think about
this. I know where I'm goingfrom best to least or least one that
you disliked the most to the onethat you enjoyed the most. Oh man,
(06:30):
um, are we on Tuesday?This is Wednesday? Is this Wednesday?
What day is it? I've lostscratching at the door let out?
All right, yeah, yeah,yeah, I'm gonna have to agree with
Sean. I think Battle is probablymy least favorite. Battle is probably my
least favorite of this series. Andthen, oh see, I don't know
(06:58):
Battle. I like elements of someof the other ones. Um Battle this
one. Okay, the two thousandand one Tim Burton's is fifth. Fourth
would be Beneath, third would beConquest, second would probably Planet an escape
(07:23):
of Pope of number one? Rightnow? Okay, I think Battle suffers
the most because it feels like aTV movie of the week that got upgraded
to a movie. Yeah, andjust got a little bit more money to
go from TV to movie. Somine is easily. Tim Burton is the
third in the punch bowl. Alright, Tim Burton beneath because all it does
(07:46):
just try to redrite the first andit does it poorly Battle because it does
feel like a TV movie, butit at least keeps the spirit of what
has been created before it. That'sthe only reason to me it goes above
beneath. Beneath is shoddy. We'recash grabbing Conquest Escape Planet because to me,
(08:09):
to me, when I look atthe film's Escape and Planet are that
mirror opposite of each other. Whenthey flipped that idea, that's why they
belong kind of pushed above it.They at least tried something and successfully pulled
it off. I just think thatTim Burton's when it is just such a
colossal mess of no ideas that atleast Battle had ideas, it just didn't
(08:30):
have the budget to So you're makingme rethink my five and six. For
sure. It's a hard thing.It is a hard thing because again,
I know you're not a fan ofBeneath, but I thought there was some
interesting concepts that there are did withthat. It's really hard because all five,
particularly the original films, had somethingreally interesting or fascinating about what they
were doing, what they could do. Even if you overall wasn't thrilled with
(08:52):
the product or certain elements of it, or the ability to do have a
higher budget. There was at leastsomething fascinating about all of them. And
I think that's one of the reasonsthat I kind of it's hard for me
because even with Beneath, even thoughI dislike it as a child, I
loved it when they peeled the facesoff these things that are there. It's
just that when you, no matterhow beautiful James Franciscus is and that you
(09:13):
put him in as your avatar toTaylor, it is you're putting him into
be Taylor. It is just areiteration. There's no originality, there's no
truth until we get to the end. And when we get to the end,
that's pretty compelling. It's just youknow, yeah, and that's It's
all subjective. This may change atsome point too, but to me,
(09:33):
to me, there's just no questionthis is the worst of the films.
That's that as far as I mean, it is the one with probably the
least innovative ideas. Yeah. Nowthe makeup is the makeup nothing. Yeah,
but the story is set design isgreat. Yeah, it points until
we get to the earth flash andwe have we we also have you know,
all of the films usually had atleast one or two really stand out
(09:54):
actors, and we've got um,we got few tim Roth, until they
didn't, until they didn't know whatto do with her, until Clark Duncan's
great in his very limited role.But you're right, Yes, until the
last half of the film where theydidn't actually use helen O Bonnocard at all,
decided that she's supposed to suddenly bethe compassionate soul that sees his truth.
All the leading up to them,it's like we talked about the fact
(10:16):
they could have taken that journey andjust reduced it down to him. Yeah,
and a couple of other people forhis and they should entourage because we
didn't. Paul Gimony was done.We didn't even you know, you think
back to the original film and itbecomes, yes, you have Cornelius,
you have Zera, you have Novan, you have Taylor. That is their
journey, and each of them they'rethe four corners of that. You are
the mute, pretty moron. Youare the regular human. The regular human
(10:39):
that's pretty and a bit of amoron too, because you don't understand everything.
But then you have the two apesthat are kind of the counter to
each of those. That's a conversationyou can have that tell me where you
can figure that out with any ofthe Leo type stuff. And Ari,
because at some point she's not evenshe's I don't know what she's questioning him
(11:00):
outside that she has the ability tolook at what he may mean to the
future civilization is to look back andwill know you're real that whole conversation.
I don't know what else she hasto do with this story. We get
to this future storyline or this inthe past storyline, whereas now taken over,
and like, I don't think i'dsaid right all the other characters that
they just jettison. There was nothere's no meaning behind any of the any
(11:22):
of the journey, you know.And I think that, and then you
know, I'm not trying to dothis not a winning battle. That's why
I look at this film and I'mlike it just at least battle. It
seems like a TV movie, butit has a clear beginning and end.
You have some of the consequences ofa child's death, what that means,
what it puts upon them, andthe ape She'll not kill eight becomes a
rallying crivate means something. I can'tsay the same thing about Tim Burton film.
(11:45):
I can't find those throughputs that meananything. Yeah, sorry, No,
I mean I agree. I itmakes me want to go back and
watch the first five films again.It honestly does, like, Oh,
I want to go back and revisitthis again, and this one I probably
would not pick up again. No, I don't think I'll ever watched this
movie. It's funny. I waslooking because I'm going to ask you in
(12:07):
future minutes about what you think it'sgoing to happen in the future movies.
And I was saying, and Iwas looking about who's the director of the
new the fourth movie and then thenew quadralogy I guess at this point not
trilogy. Yeah, And so itwas saying, you know how many New
Planet at the Apes movies are there? And they this guy said, there's
(12:28):
a first five Plant of the Apesfilms, which released between sixty eight and
seventy three, and then there's threemodern films from the twenty tens that start
any circuits as Caesar and they knowthey mention the very end that they go,
oh, by the way, didyou know there's a TV show and
then oh, by the way,did you know there was a Tim Burton
movie as well? Who? Well, I mean, it is what it
(12:48):
is, it's it was made.It kept the franchise alive on some level.
That's a good point. Kept keptit going for new audiences. Um.
I think that that franchise is sucha compelling idea. A planet where
we our closest living relative cousin,Yeah, a cousin. That's a great
way putting it that they somehow getabove us. I think that's a very
compelling idea that I think that youwill not long because that's a little bit
(13:13):
of what our Jaws is or aJurassic Park is, where you're no longer
can call on top of the fewchain somebody else is over you. Now
again, it's a very fascinating idea. I just think in this one you
didn't dig into it. All right, those are the rankings. That is
it. That is Tuesday. Wehave three more days to go, So
(13:35):
we want to talk about what wasit you just said you wanted to ask,
oh, where do you think it'sgoing? Well, we'll tease about
where, so long as you don'ttell me anything tomorrow. Talk about there's
a little bit of information, alittle eaty body. We teased it.
But let's talk about why there wasno sequel to this. And we know
how we feel about it, butlet's make that the conversation for tomorrow.
Fair, all right, We'll beback then. Everyone, have a great
day. Bye bye, everybody,
Hey, everyone, It's Todd andI'm Jeff. We're two lifelong friends who
decided we want to make a movietogether, and I wanted to let everyone
know we're actually starting a podcast aswell that's going to tell all about the
struggles and the triumphs and the lessonsthat we've learned along the way during the
movie making process, from writing thescript to finding the cast, to shooting
the scenes and editing the final product. You, the listener, will have
(00:22):
behind the scenes access. Plus alongthe way, we'll be interviewing industry professionals
to get their take on the wholeprocess as well. So if you've ever
wanted to make a movie on yourown, this new podcast is for you.
Make sure to head out to yourfavorite podcasting delivery service and look for
Jeff and Todd make a Movie andhit the follow button. On today's Man
(00:43):
of the Ape, scurtis being agood girl Lane in the Sun about Hello,
(01:29):
and welcome to Minute the Apes,the daily podcast where we break down
every minute of the play of theape movies women at a time. And
I tried to get my words inthe fast as I can before Richard falls
asleep because he's ever yawn. Ijust yawned that was a matter. I
feel tired. Did he just hityou all of a sudden? My kind
of yeah. Didn't you hate thosedays? You're like, I'm okay,
and then it's like, don't don'tback Like I just had some caffeine,
like thirty minutes ago, I'm like, do I need more caffeine? Will
not help or will do nothing?What times you wake up this morning?
(01:53):
For look, thirty I rolled overand I was like, oh, I
gotta go back sleep. I gotup. I think I got out of
that. Do you get it tope in the middle of night? Oh?
Yeah, I don't. I alot of water tears okay, and
I have water by the bed.I'm always usually get up once to night.
I try. I am such ashitty sleeper. I know that.
(02:14):
To me, No, I'm sucha shitty sleeper that I know that if
I wake up, I won't goback sleep. And so I try to
like stop drinking about an hour beforewe go to bed, just to hopefully
note. I get just got likecotton mouth during the night. It's not
like I sleep on my mouth open, but I just get dry mouth during
night. So I have a bottleof water just like, grab it.
I figured out what I clothes,just grab drinks Sam put it back down,
(02:37):
and then a couple hours later,I gotta go bathroom. All right,
I'll sleep talk aside, Richard.Are you with us? Are you
awake? I'm awake. Do Ineed to come slap your ass? No?
All right, that's a good thing. I pee with my pants down.
Hey, we are completely going offthe cliff now where all these minutes
(02:57):
are mashing together in our heads.By the time Friday comes, who the
fuck knows where we'll be. Seantell us where we start and where we
end with minute one seventeen. Allright, we're gonna start in one seventeen
with labor supervisor Brian Rock and endswith com easy for me to say,
compositing supervisor Dome Hubler. Right herecomes riveting one seventeen. We still got
(03:21):
the house, because that's the bestpart about it. We're going through.
We got prop maker foreman, awelding supervisors, a welding foremans, and
sculptors mold makers, which mold makers. That's very fascinating. I love Baker,
especially the old way of making modelsand whatnot that actually infection molding.
(03:43):
That's pretty cool. And here Iam the one that does the three D
printing now and knows that's kind oferadicating. Now we're getting the special effects
with the Baker crew. Yeah,Sinnovation Studios, wigs and hair pone Latex
trying to see if there's any interestingnames in here to The problem is special
(04:04):
probably patching and you get now whatthe I L M A R. Yeah,
I am got knocked by Sean.I would like to say that as
Sean Jackson. That put you down. Yeah, that here comes the end
of them. That was just abad composite crash. They're very when you
get into compositing, when you're you'recompletely layering elments like that, when you
(04:28):
know what to look for, yousee it every time. And the problem
is water is really hard to simulateit. Especially even today today it's harder.
They can do it. But Istill think about The Phantom Menace and
the scenes of Naboo where you seepeople leaving and they had these cliff sides
with water coming off and all thatis is salt. Yeah, because you
can't miniaturize water. No, That'swhy when you see old stuff from like
(04:54):
the fifties and stuff of a modeland it always looked like a little toy
in a bathtub and stuff like that, because you can't make water miniature very
hard. You shoot a lot ofslow motion with that to try to slow
down and I'd weight to it,but it never makes it looking more fake.
But I loved that Salt Element twowhen I saw how they did it.
But those look real. That's apretty good it comes across. Okay,
(05:15):
I tease us yesterday what we're goingto talk about today because there's not
a lot to talk. We've alreadyripped this film apart. We've already gotten
into this gay for you people thatgot credited. Yeah, let's talk about
the films and where they rank foryou. So we have now done six
films one six. Who would liketo be my first subject of telling me
what your ranking is for the film? Sean, you're angering your mic.
You go do it, all right? So are you? Are we going
(05:38):
from bottom to top or top togo from your worst to your favorite?
All right? So worst, I'mstill gonna go with a Battle. If
you think Battle is the worst filmthan this, yes, okay, this
one only wins because it's got futureSuperFect special effects. Okay, I go
Battle. Uh, Conquest this one, Tim Burton, Um beneath escape Planet.
(06:09):
Okay, all right, Richard,uh, let's see me think about
this. I know where I'm goingfrom best to least or least one that
you disliked the most to the onethat you enjoyed the most. Oh man,
(06:30):
um, are we on Tuesday?This is Wednesday? Is this Wednesday?
What day is it? I've lostscratching at the door let out?
All right, yeah, yeah,yeah, I'm gonna have to agree with
Sean. I think Battle is probablymy least favorite. Battle is probably my
least favorite of this series. Andthen, oh see, I don't know
(06:58):
Battle. I like elements of someof the other ones. Um Battle this
one. Okay, the two thousandand one Tim Burton's is fifth. Fourth
would be Beneath, third would beConquest, second would probably Planet an escape
(07:23):
of Pope of number one? Rightnow? Okay, I think Battle suffers
the most because it feels like aTV movie of the week that got upgraded
to a movie. Yeah, andjust got a little bit more money to
go from TV to movie. Somine is easily. Tim Burton is the
third in the punch bowl. Alright, Tim Burton beneath because all it does
(07:46):
just try to redrite the first andit does it poorly Battle because it does
feel like a TV movie, butit at least keeps the spirit of what
has been created before it. That'sthe only reason to me it goes above
beneath. Beneath is shoddy. We'recash grabbing Conquest Escape Planet because to me,
(08:09):
to me, when I look atthe film's Escape and Planet are that
mirror opposite of each other. Whenthey flipped that idea, that's why they
belong kind of pushed above it.They at least tried something and successfully pulled
it off. I just think thatTim Burton's when it is just such a
colossal mess of no ideas that atleast Battle had ideas, it just didn't
(08:30):
have the budget to So you're makingme rethink my five and six. For
sure. It's a hard thing.It is a hard thing because again,
I know you're not a fan ofBeneath, but I thought there was some
interesting concepts that there are did withthat. It's really hard because all five,
particularly the original films, had somethingreally interesting or fascinating about what they
were doing, what they could do. Even if you overall wasn't thrilled with
(08:52):
the product or certain elements of it, or the ability to do have a
higher budget. There was at leastsomething fascinating about all of them. And
I think that's one of the reasonsthat I kind of it's hard for me
because even with Beneath, even thoughI dislike it as a child, I
loved it when they peeled the facesoff these things that are there. It's
just that when you, no matterhow beautiful James Franciscus is and that you
(09:13):
put him in as your avatar toTaylor, it is you're putting him into
be Taylor. It is just areiteration. There's no originality, there's no
truth until we get to the end. And when we get to the end,
that's pretty compelling. It's just youknow, yeah, and that's It's
all subjective. This may change atsome point too, but to me,
(09:33):
to me, there's just no questionthis is the worst of the films.
That's that as far as I mean, it is the one with probably the
least innovative ideas. Yeah. Nowthe makeup is the makeup nothing. Yeah,
but the story is set design isgreat. Yeah, it points until
we get to the earth flash andwe have we we also have you know,
all of the films usually had atleast one or two really stand out
(09:54):
actors, and we've got um,we got few tim Roth, until they
didn't, until they didn't know whatto do with her, until Clark Duncan's
great in his very limited role.But you're right, Yes, until the
last half of the film where theydidn't actually use helen O Bonnocard at all,
decided that she's supposed to suddenly bethe compassionate soul that sees his truth.
All the leading up to them,it's like we talked about the fact
(10:16):
they could have taken that journey andjust reduced it down to him. Yeah,
and a couple of other people forhis and they should entourage because we
didn't. Paul Gimony was done.We didn't even you know, you think
back to the original film and itbecomes, yes, you have Cornelius,
you have Zera, you have Novan, you have Taylor. That is their
journey, and each of them they'rethe four corners of that. You are
the mute, pretty moron. Youare the regular human. The regular human
(10:39):
that's pretty and a bit of amoron too, because you don't understand everything.
But then you have the two apesthat are kind of the counter to
each of those. That's a conversationyou can have that tell me where you
can figure that out with any ofthe Leo type stuff. And Ari,
because at some point she's not evenshe's I don't know what she's questioning him
(11:00):
outside that she has the ability tolook at what he may mean to the
future civilization is to look back andwill know you're real that whole conversation.
I don't know what else she hasto do with this story. We get
to this future storyline or this inthe past storyline, whereas now taken over,
and like, I don't think i'dsaid right all the other characters that
they just jettison. There was nothere's no meaning behind any of the any
(11:22):
of the journey, you know.And I think that, and then you
know, I'm not trying to dothis not a winning battle. That's why
I look at this film and I'mlike it just at least battle. It
seems like a TV movie, butit has a clear beginning and end.
You have some of the consequences ofa child's death, what that means,
what it puts upon them, andthe ape She'll not kill eight becomes a
rallying crivate means something. I can'tsay the same thing about Tim Burton film.
(11:45):
I can't find those throughputs that meananything. Yeah, sorry, No,
I mean I agree. I itmakes me want to go back and
watch the first five films again.It honestly does, like, Oh,
I want to go back and revisitthis again, and this one I probably
would not pick up again. No, I don't think I'll ever watched this
movie. It's funny. I waslooking because I'm going to ask you in
(12:07):
future minutes about what you think it'sgoing to happen in the future movies.
And I was saying, and Iwas looking about who's the director of the
new the fourth movie and then thenew quadralogy I guess at this point not
trilogy. Yeah, And so itwas saying, you know how many New
Planet at the Apes movies are there? And they this guy said, there's
(12:28):
a first five Plant of the Apesfilms, which released between sixty eight and
seventy three, and then there's threemodern films from the twenty tens that start
any circuits as Caesar and they knowthey mention the very end that they go,
oh, by the way, didyou know there's a TV show and
then oh, by the way,did you know there was a Tim Burton
movie as well? Who? Well, I mean, it is what it
(12:48):
is, it's it was made.It kept the franchise alive on some level.
That's a good point. Kept keptit going for new audiences. Um.
I think that that franchise is sucha compelling idea. A planet where
we our closest living relative cousin,Yeah, a cousin. That's a great
way putting it that they somehow getabove us. I think that's a very
compelling idea that I think that youwill not long because that's a little bit
(13:13):
of what our Jaws is or aJurassic Park is, where you're no longer
can call on top of the fewchain somebody else is over you. Now
again, it's a very fascinating idea. I just think in this one you
didn't dig into it. All right, those are the rankings. That is
it. That is Tuesday. Wehave three more days to go, So
(13:35):
we want to talk about what wasit you just said you wanted to ask,
oh, where do you think it'sgoing? Well, we'll tease about
where, so long as you don'ttell me anything tomorrow. Talk about there's
a little bit of information, alittle eaty body. We teased it.
But let's talk about why there wasno sequel to this. And we know
how we feel about it, butlet's make that the conversation for tomorrow.
Fair, all right, We'll beback then. Everyone, have a great
day. Bye bye, everybody,
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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton tackle the biggest stories in news, politics and current events with intelligence and humor. From the border crisis, to the madness of cancel culture and far-left missteps, Clay and Buck guide listeners through the latest headlines and hot topics with fun and entertaining conversations and opinions.