May 11, 2023 • 10 mins
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(00:00):
Hey, everyone, It's Todd andI'm Jeff. We're two lifelong friends who
decided we want to make a movietogether, and I wanted to let everyone
know we're actually starting a podcast aswell that's going to tell all about the
struggles and the triumphs and the lessonsthat we've learned along the way during the
movie making process, from writing thescript to finding the cast, to shooting
the scenes and editing the final product. You, the listener, will have
(00:22):
behind the scenes access. Plus alongthe way, we'll be interviewing industry professionals
to get their take on the wholeprocess as well. So if you've ever
wanted to make a movie on yourown, this new podcast is for you.
Make sure to head out to yourfavorite podcasting delivery service and look for
Jeff and Todd make a Movie andhit the follow button. On today's Man
(00:43):
of the Apes, Todd, We'regoing to work it out with Shelley.
The marriage will work about. Hello, and welcome to Minute of the Apes,
(01:32):
the daily podcast. We break downevery minute of the plenty of the
eight movies one minute of time.I am Todd. I am jubilant because
it's the next last day of thisWe're at the penultimate minute. You know
penultimate that that's funny because I neverheard that term, at least I felt
like in my life until this currentmedia cycle. We're always talking about almost
(01:53):
the last day, and it wasalmost like when did this become what it
is? So here it is thepenultimate moment of the film, Sean,
why don't you tell us where westart and where we end because I am
on the edge of my fucking see. All right, we start a minute
one nineteen with additional medics re Nasholdand Jeff R. Wine and ends with
(02:15):
graphic graphic supervisor Simon Stain. Allright, we're gonna roll. There's our
house music again. We have aset medic. I guess you always have
to have them. That's weird.You want to talk about the weird thing
to credit somebody for a set medicbecause hopefully you will never have to use
them. But didn't celebre you haveattack at one point? Oh yeah,
(02:35):
that's true. Music music editing isa skill that is amazing. Now we
got the main title sequence that thearms that same guy that has worked with
Burton through numerous films and Tramarro atthe top of it because I thought it
looked like a little bit like theSweeney top credits, and it does electricians
Abby Wolf that it hurt and Wolfexcuse me? Name is so close to
(03:00):
the way my daughter spells it,but without the why which you want to
piss Abbey off go when she orderscoffee and they don't ask how spelling,
They just do B B boy.I'm like, dude, there are things
to be pissed off in the worldand that's not one of them. The
Washington DC Unit so they actually shotit on location. C Anne Jackson,
do we have a Cnne jack here? All right? That's the end of
(03:21):
that. So, as I teasedyesterday, there's a little bit of information
out there on how it was perceivedafter the film came out. Let me
jump to the point. Shortly afterthe film, Roth Bottom, Carter,
Calling Atwood and Rip Can Makeup receivednominations at the Saturn Awards. I would
(03:44):
have been for Supporting Actor or forboth roth and Bottom, Carter Calling Atwood
for costume, and Rip Baker frommakeup. Atwood and Baker were nominated the
fifty fifth British Academy Film Awards,while composer Danny Elfman was nominated for his
work at the forty there Grammy Awards. Plant of the Apes won the Worst
Remake at the twenty second Golden RaspberryAwards, while Heston and Estella Warren also
(04:09):
Warren Awards. So her her protegradationof her career and the attack on her
began shortly after people were ready tojump on that she was horrible. I
don't think it's her fault and shecan only know. I don't think,
yeah, it's again. She didn'thave a dialogue and she don't have how
much that she just has no dialogue. They didn't write anything for her.
(04:31):
They didn't write anything for Marque Markwhere there's just jump moments were like,
he didn't even get a concluding linefor the film. No, His concluding
line for the film was like howcome no? It was it was that
the last things you heard were hip? But how can you give her line?
So when she doesn't even have acharacter, she doesn't have a place
in this world. She doesn't havean opinion in this world. Every character
(04:54):
has to have an opinion, didthey not? If you're going to Han
Solo, is Han solo? Becausehe blasts Grito and he doesn't care yet
all he wants is the money.That is his fucking character, and if
you take that away from him,Harrison Ford would be considered to be awful.
Why is he so glee and happywhen everything's going wrong in this world?
(05:15):
You can't not give a character astance and they don't give her well
shit, But but does Han Solohave a stance since Grito shot first?
I know? Well question? Yeah, and that gets into that's did you
see how Steven Spielberg came out andsays he wished he had not taken all
the guns out of et But youalso see how his wording was, films
(05:35):
shouldn't films from pastorship should reflect thetons and they should not be doctor to
modern current sensibilities. And I thought, okay, that was really good of
you to say don't fuck with films, but not to shoot on your best
buddy there. Yeah, because look, I know art is never finished,
it's just abandoned. But at somepoint you gotta stop. Well and also
(05:59):
when you realize it. I knowwe're not a Star Wars podcast, but
Star Wars is a mix of allgreat this can be films across the board.
It's a mix of different tropes.Right, Star Wars takes religious samurai
films, takes space adventures, ittakes romantic films, and it takes spaghetti
westerns, and it mashes them alltogether and it makes what it is.
(06:20):
And that's why anytime you ever hearsomeone say it's just a rip off of
that, you've just taken the samething. At least it did what it
did. Like this film, itdidn't take anything from other genres. And
if I'm going to create a stella, she should have been a character that
maybe she's a Princess Leiah type whereshe's actually a bit of a ballbuster,
you know that that would have beeninteresting. We know nothing about her tribe,
(06:44):
nothing. We won't even know thatis her brother or her son or
whoever that kid is. Yeah,maybe her dad, her brother's. The
only thing we knew was that herdad. That was her dad. That's
the only thing. Did we knowthat for definitively sure, it's sort of
insinuated. Did they ever, Idon't think they because I don't think they
ever said any relationships except for thefact that Ari was the Senator's daughter.
(07:08):
I think that's only our real familyou know it, Just like they didn't
set any of these characters up.But I also understand then why fans are
looking for points to blame when thething is a mess and you can't you
know, why did they put CharltonHeston in here? It's pretty obvious why
you put him in, And youput him in a moment where he really
doesn't bring anything to the story outsidethe fact that he's doing a counter argument
(07:30):
to what he's famous for, andthat is just so intentional when it's not
even the point of the movie.Yeah, it's really it's really kind of
just shameful of them to make himdo that, or do you get him
to do that when it's not evenimpactful to what's happening for the rest of
the movie. Yeah, yeah,that was. I mean, sure,
you know you've you owned the conservativeor whatever that whatever that phrase is.
(07:54):
Yeah, but it was. Itdidn't need to be there. It didn't
need to be there at all.You had an opportunity to use him,
and that's how you wasted it.I wish they were compelling things to talk
about with this film. I thinkthat it's a missed opportunity to talk about
religion. I think I'm not areligious person, but I think any discussion
of religion is always fascinating. Whydo we need construed ideas of what hope
(08:16):
is? Why do we need whatvirtue is? Why do we need these
things? And they don't touch onit outside of that it's there. It's
there conveniently so I can set upthat the monkey Jesus was there, right,
and that's about it. And Ifeel like that's the truth of every
element of this film. It's sortof there because I need it to be
there. I mean, there weretimes talking about was that planet or beneath
(08:39):
where there were just so many themesplanet is where we talked. It was
almost too many, almost too manythemes we would have pulled up, but
they hadn't, meaning they had everytime they got to it. It's like,
man, I just feel like they'rekind of going off. But that's
a compelling argument, and it's whyI almost look back on that film.
The more we get distant from it, the better, like, shit,
that's the best film that is it? To me, it's like I'll look
(09:03):
at it and escape and I thinkboth of them brought complete arguments to their
point of the world. After thatit devolves into dissolves into whatever it is,
and this that it's solved into isthe cesspool the lays in the gun
of the Does anybody get anything else? I think that tomorrow, at least
(09:26):
we get to talk about where we'regoing from here. It gets to get
exciting. So if you guys areokay, I'm gonna wrap it for today
because I'm excited to talk about tomorrow. All right, That is it.
We will be back one more minute. We will tease where we're going.
We'll kind of try to talk abouthow as we always do, what our
production schedule was. Everyone knows thisthe way this goes. We talk about
that protection schedule and it doesn't alwayshold truth, but we're gonna try.
(09:48):
We're gonna tell you what we're goingto try to do. So everyone have
a great day, by everybody.Eight
Hey, everyone, It's Todd andI'm Jeff. We're two lifelong friends who
decided we want to make a movietogether, and I wanted to let everyone
know we're actually starting a podcast aswell that's going to tell all about the
struggles and the triumphs and the lessonsthat we've learned along the way during the
movie making process, from writing thescript to finding the cast, to shooting
the scenes and editing the final product. You, the listener, will have
(00:22):
behind the scenes access. Plus alongthe way, we'll be interviewing industry professionals
to get their take on the wholeprocess as well. So if you've ever
wanted to make a movie on yourown, this new podcast is for you.
Make sure to head out to yourfavorite podcasting delivery service and look for
Jeff and Todd make a Movie andhit the follow button. On today's Man
(00:43):
of the Apes, Todd, We'regoing to work it out with Shelley.
The marriage will work about. Hello, and welcome to Minute of the Apes,
(01:32):
the daily podcast. We break downevery minute of the plenty of the
eight movies one minute of time.I am Todd. I am jubilant because
it's the next last day of thisWe're at the penultimate minute. You know
penultimate that that's funny because I neverheard that term, at least I felt
like in my life until this currentmedia cycle. We're always talking about almost
(01:53):
the last day, and it wasalmost like when did this become what it
is? So here it is thepenultimate moment of the film, Sean,
why don't you tell us where westart and where we end because I am
on the edge of my fucking see. All right, we start a minute
one nineteen with additional medics re Nasholdand Jeff R. Wine and ends with
(02:15):
graphic graphic supervisor Simon Stain. Allright, we're gonna roll. There's our
house music again. We have aset medic. I guess you always have
to have them. That's weird.You want to talk about the weird thing
to credit somebody for a set medicbecause hopefully you will never have to use
them. But didn't celebre you haveattack at one point? Oh yeah,
(02:35):
that's true. Music music editing isa skill that is amazing. Now we
got the main title sequence that thearms that same guy that has worked with
Burton through numerous films and Tramarro atthe top of it because I thought it
looked like a little bit like theSweeney top credits, and it does electricians
Abby Wolf that it hurt and Wolfexcuse me? Name is so close to
(03:00):
the way my daughter spells it,but without the why which you want to
piss Abbey off go when she orderscoffee and they don't ask how spelling,
They just do B B boy.I'm like, dude, there are things
to be pissed off in the worldand that's not one of them. The
Washington DC Unit so they actually shotit on location. C Anne Jackson,
do we have a Cnne jack here? All right? That's the end of
(03:21):
that. So, as I teasedyesterday, there's a little bit of information
out there on how it was perceivedafter the film came out. Let me
jump to the point. Shortly afterthe film, Roth Bottom, Carter,
Calling Atwood and Rip Can Makeup receivednominations at the Saturn Awards. I would
(03:44):
have been for Supporting Actor or forboth roth and Bottom, Carter Calling Atwood
for costume, and Rip Baker frommakeup. Atwood and Baker were nominated the
fifty fifth British Academy Film Awards,while composer Danny Elfman was nominated for his
work at the forty there Grammy Awards. Plant of the Apes won the Worst
Remake at the twenty second Golden RaspberryAwards, while Heston and Estella Warren also
(04:09):
Warren Awards. So her her protegradationof her career and the attack on her
began shortly after people were ready tojump on that she was horrible. I
don't think it's her fault and shecan only know. I don't think,
yeah, it's again. She didn'thave a dialogue and she don't have how
much that she just has no dialogue. They didn't write anything for her.
(04:31):
They didn't write anything for Marque Markwhere there's just jump moments were like,
he didn't even get a concluding linefor the film. No, His concluding
line for the film was like howcome no? It was it was that
the last things you heard were hip? But how can you give her line?
So when she doesn't even have acharacter, she doesn't have a place
in this world. She doesn't havean opinion in this world. Every character
(04:54):
has to have an opinion, didthey not? If you're going to Han
Solo, is Han solo? Becausehe blasts Grito and he doesn't care yet
all he wants is the money.That is his fucking character, and if
you take that away from him,Harrison Ford would be considered to be awful.
Why is he so glee and happywhen everything's going wrong in this world?
(05:15):
You can't not give a character astance and they don't give her well
shit, But but does Han Solohave a stance since Grito shot first?
I know? Well question? Yeah, and that gets into that's did you
see how Steven Spielberg came out andsays he wished he had not taken all
the guns out of et But youalso see how his wording was, films
(05:35):
shouldn't films from pastorship should reflect thetons and they should not be doctor to
modern current sensibilities. And I thought, okay, that was really good of
you to say don't fuck with films, but not to shoot on your best
buddy there. Yeah, because look, I know art is never finished,
it's just abandoned. But at somepoint you gotta stop. Well and also
(05:59):
when you realize it. I knowwe're not a Star Wars podcast, but
Star Wars is a mix of allgreat this can be films across the board.
It's a mix of different tropes.Right, Star Wars takes religious samurai
films, takes space adventures, ittakes romantic films, and it takes spaghetti
westerns, and it mashes them alltogether and it makes what it is.
(06:20):
And that's why anytime you ever hearsomeone say it's just a rip off of
that, you've just taken the samething. At least it did what it
did. Like this film, itdidn't take anything from other genres. And
if I'm going to create a stella, she should have been a character that
maybe she's a Princess Leiah type whereshe's actually a bit of a ballbuster,
you know that that would have beeninteresting. We know nothing about her tribe,
(06:44):
nothing. We won't even know thatis her brother or her son or
whoever that kid is. Yeah,maybe her dad, her brother's. The
only thing we knew was that herdad. That was her dad. That's
the only thing. Did we knowthat for definitively sure, it's sort of
insinuated. Did they ever, Idon't think they because I don't think they
ever said any relationships except for thefact that Ari was the Senator's daughter.
(07:08):
I think that's only our real familyou know it, Just like they didn't
set any of these characters up.But I also understand then why fans are
looking for points to blame when thething is a mess and you can't you
know, why did they put CharltonHeston in here? It's pretty obvious why
you put him in, And youput him in a moment where he really
doesn't bring anything to the story outsidethe fact that he's doing a counter argument
(07:30):
to what he's famous for, andthat is just so intentional when it's not
even the point of the movie.Yeah, it's really it's really kind of
just shameful of them to make himdo that, or do you get him
to do that when it's not evenimpactful to what's happening for the rest of
the movie. Yeah, yeah,that was. I mean, sure,
you know you've you owned the conservativeor whatever that whatever that phrase is.
(07:54):
Yeah, but it was. Itdidn't need to be there. It didn't
need to be there at all.You had an opportunity to use him,
and that's how you wasted it.I wish they were compelling things to talk
about with this film. I thinkthat it's a missed opportunity to talk about
religion. I think I'm not areligious person, but I think any discussion
of religion is always fascinating. Whydo we need construed ideas of what hope
(08:16):
is? Why do we need whatvirtue is? Why do we need these
things? And they don't touch onit outside of that it's there. It's
there conveniently so I can set upthat the monkey Jesus was there, right,
and that's about it. And Ifeel like that's the truth of every
element of this film. It's sortof there because I need it to be
there. I mean, there weretimes talking about was that planet or beneath
(08:39):
where there were just so many themesplanet is where we talked. It was
almost too many, almost too manythemes we would have pulled up, but
they hadn't, meaning they had everytime they got to it. It's like,
man, I just feel like they'rekind of going off. But that's
a compelling argument, and it's whyI almost look back on that film.
The more we get distant from it, the better, like, shit,
that's the best film that is it? To me, it's like I'll look
(09:03):
at it and escape and I thinkboth of them brought complete arguments to their
point of the world. After thatit devolves into dissolves into whatever it is,
and this that it's solved into isthe cesspool the lays in the gun
of the Does anybody get anything else? I think that tomorrow, at least
(09:26):
we get to talk about where we'regoing from here. It gets to get
exciting. So if you guys areokay, I'm gonna wrap it for today
because I'm excited to talk about tomorrow. All right, That is it.
We will be back one more minute. We will tease where we're going.
We'll kind of try to talk abouthow as we always do, what our
production schedule was. Everyone knows thisthe way this goes. We talk about
that protection schedule and it doesn't alwayshold truth, but we're gonna try.
(09:48):
We're gonna tell you what we're goingto try to do. So everyone have
a great day, by everybody.Eight
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