July 1, 2025 • 55 mins
DR. MICHELLE GAMBLE, DN is the co-founder and Director of ITAV Ministry, Inc. and Sankofa Healing and Enrichment, Inc. She is an author, educator, mentor, and speaker who specializes in assisting persons with chronic illness to transform their health. She has been a professional educator for over 25 years and a health care provider for over 20 years. She has a Bachelors in Mathematics and English with an emphasis on Secondary School Education, a Masters and Doctorate in Naturology. Dr. Gamble is a board-certified alternative health care provider with advanced training and certification in various areas of health.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to Mission Evolution Radio Show with Gwildawaka, bringing together
today's leading experts to uncover ever deepening spiritual truths and
the latest scientific developments in support of the evolution of humankind.
For more information on Mission Evolution Radio with Gildawiaka, visit
www dot Mission Evolution dot RG and now here's the
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host of Mission Evolution, Miss Gwildawiaka.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Despite advancements in healthcare, a growing number of number of
people are experiencing worsening health issues. This is a trand
observable across various demographics marked by a rise in chronic illness.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Could it be that someone or something doesn't want us well?
Mission Evolution Radio TV show is coming to you around
the world on the ex own TV channel x z
TV dot ca A. This hour, doctor Michelle Gamble is
joining us to analyze healthcare options and possible.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Resistance to them.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Doctor Gamble is the co founder and director of ita
V Ministry, Inc. And SANKOFA Healing and Enrichment Inc. She's
the author of Creating a Happier, Healthier You, educator, mentor
and speaker who specializes in assisting persons with chronic illness
to transform their health. Doctor Gamble has been a professional
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educator for over twenty five years and a healthcare provider
for over twenty. She has a bachelor's in mathematics and
English with an emphasis on secondary school education, a master's
and doctorate in naturlogy. Doctor Gamble is a board certified
alternative healthcare provider with advanced training and certification in various
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areas of health. Her website the holeest healingdoctor dot com.
Doctor Gamble, thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Thank you for inviting me. It is wonderful to be
here with your community.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
It's great to have you. So your biostates. You have
a master's and a doate in naturalogy. What is naturlogy?
Speaker 4 (02:17):
That's a very good question. Naturalogy is actually the study
of nature's cures. Several years ago, when we go back
to the early nineteen hundreds, there was a significant coup,
I guess you can say, of the healthcare paradigm in
our country. It was basically taken over by special interests,
corporate interests, oil tycoons, and things of that nature. When
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that occurred, they basically pushed out the previous natural healing
modalities to replace it with a new type of institution
which emphasized the importance of pharmaceuticals that were derived from
chemical byproducts. And so when I went into the field
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of study, I first started out interestingly enough, thinking that
I wanted to go into medicine because my family members
have been nurses, and I thought, Okay, I'll go in
and I'll be a doctor. And then when I went
into my first semester, I said, nah, this is not
me because what I realized is that I did not
believe in pharmaceuticals. I really believe in nature's cures. And
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at that time, there was the choices of going into
what's called naturopathy, which is basically the study of utilizing
some modalities of nature but really within the same medical context,
or going into naturrology, and a lot of the old
schools like Clayton Institute of Healing, American Institute of Holistic Healing,
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all of these different institutions that were based on herbalism
and things of that nature have been pushed out of
the healthcare modality through a lot of interesting politics and shenanigans.
But in any case, that's a long roundabout answer to
your question.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
So you're a board certified alternative healthcare practitioner. Are you
also a medical doctor?
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Absolutely not. I am not a medical doctor. I do
not diagnose, cure, treat disease. It's actually contrary to my
entire paradigm of how I help people to heal themselves.
So a lot of times people think that I say
these various things as a way of getting around the
legality of different things, But in reality, I have no
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desire to diagnose, treat, or cure any type of disease,
because in reality, that prevents an individual from actually healing.
How So, well, when we look at the paradigm of
what I refer to as healing versus curing, curing implies
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that you're going to use an intervention such as the
patchwork piece, a powder, a pill, a potion, procedure, or
the elevation of some person or program in your life.
It gives you the understanding that something other than you,
or the divine entity that's within you, is doing the healing.
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And so the world that we live in right now
is really based on convincing people that you need something
outside of yourself to heal, that somehow you are so
broken that the design, the construct of everything that is
that you identify as you is deficient or decrepit, and
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therefore you need something else to give you that intervention
aka a cure, whereas healing gives you the understanding that
it is this innate power that is within you. You
have a divine birthright, You have this ability within yourself
that is actually on automatic. What many people don't realize
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is that every moment of the day you are in
the process of healing body, mind, heart and spirit. In fact,
that is the divine design. The divine design is for
all of these various aspects of your being to work
behind the scenes, to work autonomously conspiring to keep you healthy,
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to keep you well, to keep you whole.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
So let's back up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
You said there was a coup, if you will, Where
do you find out about this? Where can other people
look it up?
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Well, you can look this up by looking into what
happened when Rockefeller entered into the whole paradigm of medicine.
So Rockefeller and other type boons decided that they want
to have a way of utilizing the byproducts of their chemicals,
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and so they decided, hmmm, this can actually work within
the medical paradigm. So within in the early nineteen hundreds.
What happened is that these various robber barons you can
call them, would enter into the medical institutions, the medical
universities and say, you know what, tell you what, we
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are going to donate millions to your university if you
will allow us to be on the board. And so
they created that interesting relationship, that incestuous relationship that continues
to this day where pretty much big Pharma has a
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lot of influence over what happens in our medical institutions
in terms of training our doctors, and most of our
medical doctors are basically trained in terms of how to
utilize pharmaceuticals. What many people don't realize is that your
typical doctor has received less than a couple of hours
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in nutrition. Your typical doctor has no understanding of how
to help you to heal naturally. They are very well versed, however,
in how to diagnose something, meaning give a code, and
based on that code, they're going to give you a
prescription of pharmaceutical that is going to be used to
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manage your disease state. At no point in time do
they ever give you the illusion that they're actually going
to help you to heal or reverse the disease state.
They'll say, you know what, here's the medication to manage
your diabetes. Here's the medication to manage your hypertension. So
all of this, like I said, began in the early
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nineteen eighteen, sorry, early nineteen hundreds, where where you had
that marriage of your pharmaceutical companies and the medical institutions.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
So the.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Wasn't the pharmaceuticals originally based on some of the herbal remedies,
and then they first they cut out all the cut
it down to its constituent parts, took count the balance,
and then started chemically reproducing it.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Well, that was prior to the early nineteen hundreds, so
that was going back as I was saying before, where
your traditional doctors people before the nineteen hundreds, they were
utilizing the herbs, they were utilizing foods, they were utilizing
say even essential oils, back flower memodies, homeopathy even And
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then when we enter into the early nineteen hundreds and
the mid nineteen hundreds, that is when you have the
introduction of pharmaceuticals in the as a bi product of
the chemicals. And so we are coming back from World
War II, world War One, and they're saying, hmm, we
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don't have anything to use these chemicals for. And you
know what, we kind of noticed that when people were
exposed to these chemicals they had xyz quote unquote side effects.
So they started to make the correlation between utilizing various
chemicals and being able to force the body to do
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certain things. So, yes, originally medicine came from plants, came
from animals, came from our environment in the form of
cell salts and things of that nature. But as we
progress into what we currently understand as modern medicine, really
and truly it's based pretty much on what is concocted
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in a lab and has very little to do with
the original herbal constituencies. And at the same time, as
you said, another part of this is that they started
to isolate what they would call the active ingredient of
an herb and use that particular active component as sorry
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in isolation. Now, again, if we're looking at the modality
of quote unquote curing, meaning forcing the body to have
a certain response, forcing the body to manage a certain symptomology,
then that's perfectly fine. But if you're actually looking for
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the process of healing, that's not fine because the reality
is that there are fifty million different components in an
herb that are more in the supportive kind of role,
you know. So when we look at say, willow bark,
where they were able to take the active ingredient out
of that to create aspirins and things to help you
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with regards to pain. Yes, that active ingredient is going
to help you to not feel the pain. But all
the other components that were in the willow bark that
the body would utilize to actually help to nourish the body,
help the body to heal in a deep and more comprehensive,
holistic fashion, all of that is reverse because now the
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name of the game is not helping you to heal.
The name of the game is resolving the symptoms or
managing the symptoms.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
So when was Bach make When did Bach create his
backflower remedies? I thought that was in the nineteen hundreds.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Yes, but that's earlier, you know. And the other thing
to keep in mind is that these people who created
things like the bakflower remedies that created the cell sauce
of tissue salts, that created the homeopathy, that type of science,
that type of medicine was propaganda, to be quote unquote
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discredited and for people to mock those types of modalities
because in comes in as I said, the pharmaceutical companies
that have their medications that have a more immediate effect
on the body, and they have an effect of managing
a symptom. And as I said, they have infiltrated the
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medical universities. And so now the people who are talking
to you about the herbs, the people who are talking
to you about homeopathy, they are now being kicked out
of the medical institutions and they are looked at as
being quote unquote snake oil salesman.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
But now it's time for us to take a station break,
doctor Gamble, and I will return very shortly, so don't
go away. This is Mission Evolution www dot Mission evolution
dot org. What do you mean they don't want as well?
With this is our is doctor Michelle Gamble, the author
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of Creating a Happier, Healthier You her website, The Holistic
Healingdoctor dot com.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Doctor Campbell.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
When we talk about, you know, the system is not
wanting as well, It sounds kind of like a conspiracy.
Where are you getting your information.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
On this, Well, we're getting the information from looking at
the reality of what's happening in our country right now.
We are looking at spending more than four point trillion
dollars on health, and yet we are one of the
sickest nations in the world. It seems the more money
that we spend on health, the worse we get. We're
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looking at the fact that more than sixty six percent
of us have a chronic illness. We're looking at the
fact that more than fifty percent of our children have
a chronic illness. We're looking at the fact that when
you look at our children. I started teaching back in
the nineteen nineties, and when I was teaching, it was
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practically unheard of to have somebody in your classroom with
a peanut allergy. Now practically every kid has some form
of allergy. Either they're allergic to peanuts, or they're allergic
to dogs and cats, they're allergic to the the pollen.
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I've even heard. Now you have people who are allergic
to sunshine. And so we're getting sicker and sicker and sicker,
even though we're spending more and more money. And so
that should tell us that something is rotten in Denmark,
as Shakespeare would say.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
So how do you relate the allergies that the children
are starting to exhibit. Back to the pharmaceutical companies.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Well, we're looking at the way in which we are
over activating the immune system. We're looking at the fact
that when I was a little girl, I probably had
maybe at most five or six immunizations. Now, when we
look at the vaccine schedule, we're talking about children at
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least seventy two vaccines, if not when you start counting
in the COVID vaccines, it's more so like ninety something vaccines. Now,
keep in mind that vaccines are based on the idea
that you are going to overactivate the immune system. You're
going to make the immune system now start to respond
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to some sort of infiltrator. Okay, to make things simple,
when you do that over time, over and over and
over and over again, especially to young children, young babies
that have immature immune systems. When a baby is born,
a baby has a very immature immune system, and therefore
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it's dependent on the mother's immune system. However, on the
first day that a baby comes into this world, a
baby is given a hepatitis BE vaccination, And you may
ask yourself, why would you do something, Why would you
introduce a hepatitis be vaccination, which is basically transferred one
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individual to another through sexual activity, through promiscuity, things of
that nature. Or the one exception would be a mother
who has hepatitis BE. But the reality is less than
one percent of mothers have a hepatitis BE infection when
giving birth, and those parents are automatically identified because every
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mother that goes into a hospital is given a test
to identify whether or not she has hepatitis BE. So
those babies can automatically be identified and given the vaccine.
If that's the case. In any case, what's happening now
is that we're having the overactivation of the immune system
that in combination with the fact that we have coming
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from Big Pharma, we have quote unquote food that is
no longer actually food. We're looking at food that no
longer has the nutritional component that we used to have
in food, say forty fifty years ago.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
If I want, I won't argue with you about the
quality of our food and you know, Frank and food
if you will. But how does that relate back to
Big Pharma? He kind of lost me there.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Okay, So, as I said, big Pharma has to do
with the medications. So one of the main medications that
children receive from the very first breath of life is immunizations,
and those immunizations have been compounded significantly over the past
thirty years. So what has happened is that now we're
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basically assaulting the immune system of our children and exalting
the immune system of individuals that have an immature immune system.
First and foremost, a child doesn't fully develop their immune
system until about three to five years of age, but
the majority of vaccines that are issued to a child
are before the age of three. And so you have
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a situation where you are going in and you are
aggravating the immune system. You're over activating the immune system.
And when you overactivate the immune system, you're disregulating the
immune system. And so that is one aspect of how
we're having the manifestation. So if you will, of hyperactivity
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of the immune system, dysregulation of the immune system. So
that comes in the form of various types of allergies.
It also comes in the form of various types of
autoimmune conditions and several other conditions.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
So where is the food and drug administration.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
In all of this, Well, the food and drug administration
is in bed with big food and big pharma. You know,
a lot of times people don't realize that a lot
of the people that are running these agencies are taking
kickbacks from the agencies, and the kickbacks come in a
variety of different forms. One of the major forms that
it comes back is you'll notice that after they leave
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something like the Food and Drug Administration, interestingly enough, they've
become part of the boards of these various pharmaceutical companies.
And that is why one of the things that Robert F.
Kennedy Junior has done most recently is that he completely
overhauled was called the ASIPs, the committee that would oversee
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whether or not to approve various immunizations. So when he
went into the administration, we realized that there were a
lot of interesting relationships that people were not disclosing with
regards to their role as part of things like the
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Food Administration, food and Drug Administration, as well as part
of these various committees that will approve or disapprove various
medications and in this case, immunizations. And so because of
those conflicts of interest, he fired everyone and now we
are slowly building a new committee and hopefully as time
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moves on, we'll be able to avoid these various forms
of conflex of interests. But you see this very as
I said, incestuous relationship not only between our government and
these various pharmaceutical companies, big food companies, but also between
the various agencies and these various organizations companies and our institutions.
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So there's the questions that I teach our doctors.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Let's move back to herbology, if that's the way you
say it. It was, of course a very viable form
of healing back when, but today it seems like for
whatever reason there people can hang their shingles and robologies
without any training whatsoever. Its self taught. So when did
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the when did the regulations slip away from applying to
herbs and.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
The people that would distribute them.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Well, one of the things to keep in mind is
that the field of herbology is one of nature, meaning
there's very little that you can do with regards to
quote unquote regulating nature. You know, if I go and
I tell you, hey, go and eat an apple, an
apple is food. Various herbs are foods. Now the question
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becomes as the saying goes, let the buyer beware copy
of mtur. So in most occasions, what I tell people,
as with everyone else, even with quote unquote medical doctors.
I say to people, you need to do the research
about the provider that you are putting your health in. Okay,
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I do not care about the letters behind someone's names.
I don't care who calls him or herself an expert,
especially today, because anyone and everyone, as you said, can
quote unquote call themselves an expert. And we have people
with various degrees and alphabet soup letters behind their names
with part of their names, and it's irrelevant. What's most
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important is for you to get validation of whether or
not that person is capable. And so what I tell people,
just like I was talking to a woman this morning
about an issue pertaining to mold, and she was given
information that she just had a significant mold infestation in
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her house and these people came in and gave her
estimates and mold remediation, and she later found out that
it was a scam. And so I said, did you
do some research on these people? And she said, you
know what, Michelle, after the fact, I went and I
did research on these people, I said, and she said,
you know, I think I want to start doing that
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in the beginning, you know, instead of going down that
rabbit hole. It's so the same thing is true now
with whether you're talking about supplements or you're talking about herbs,
or you're talking about these various bright, shiny objects devices,
you know, whether it be infrared pads and magnetic pads
and all of these various things you for better or
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for worse. We're in America where your responsibility is realizing
that you are responsible for your health. It doesn't. And
even when we talk about medical doctors, again, have you
done research on the people that have all of these
alphabet suit behind their names?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
So you state that all people have a divine healer?
And we talked it started into talking about that. Would
you go into it a little more for us please?
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Well, one of the things that I want us to
remember is when we were children. I'm sure every single
one of us, at some point in time fell right
and you cut yourself. Guess what, Mom or dad or
auntie or uncle or somebody came along and cleaned out
the wound, you know, maybe put a little band aid
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on it, and then a couple days later you pulled
off the band aid and you had healed. That is
what I'm saying. Every one of us has a direct
relationship to understanding what I'm saying. In terms of knowing
that you have within you the divine power to heal.
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The question always becomes, are you supporting that divine healer
or are you putting more obstructions to sabotage that divine healing.
And so now we look at also whether or not
we even believe that we can heal, because remember the
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messaging that we're getting everywhere. You turn on your TV
and every single ad is saying, there's something wrong with you.
If you're sad, there's something wrong with you. If you're mad,
there's something wrong with you. If you think very quickly,
there's something wrong with you. If you have a tummy ache,
there's something wrong with you. And that's nature's fault. We've
got to fix nature, as opposed to saying, hmm, I
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was created by divine creator, and I know that this
is not the desire of that creation. When you created
your babies, you did not want your babies to have
all kinds of malays. When you create a car, if
you were the creator of a car, you don't want
the car to be breaking down. So obviously the entity
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that created us did not want us to just break apart,
full apart. So what I'm saying is that that divine
healer is within.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
So the divine healer?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Does that depends on a religious viewpoint?
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Oh absolutely not, absolutely not. You know, so you know,
you can be gooo, you can be Christian, you can
be Jewish, you can be atheistic, None of that matters.
What matters is that you have the understanding that there's
something powerful that resides in every single person. There's some
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type of automatic default programming that kicks in when there's
something off that says, you know what, we need to
bring balance back. We need to reintegrate the different parts
of our being, and that is always happening.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
We're going to have to reintegrate on the other side
of yet another station break, doctor Gamble and I will
be right back to continue our discussion. So stay right there.
That's his Mission Evolution, Mission evolution dot org. Is there
a blueprint for healing? This is Mission Evolution, Mission Evolution
dot Org. With us discussing alternatives to traditional medicine. Is
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doctor Michelle Gamble her website, The Holistic Healing Doctor dot com.
Doctor Gamble, we we can't argue that medical doctors have
spent a lot of time learning about the physical body.
And I mean they spend a lot of time in college.
How do you how do you presume to be able
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to better understand the physical body without that level of education,
And where do you come up with the idea that
you know, what you say is is backed in in.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Fact well, first and foremost, to understand again that medical
doctors have significant training. I will never ever disparage what
medical doctors do with regards to acute care, crisis care,
and intervention. If I were to get knocked down by
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a mack truck, God forbid, what I tell people is,
do not take me to the local herbalists. Do not
take me to the local omeopath. Take me to the
nearest er, because I recognize that that is the way
that I need to travene in that moment of crisis
to get my body back in alignment. Now, that is
very different from understanding how there is an innate aspect
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of one's being that can produce healing. And this is
something that ancients have understood. Our grandmothers understood, and our
grandmothers didn't have PhDs, Our grandmothers didn't have you know,
years of medical school, but they knew from generations that
herbs worked. That Okay, if I use this herb when
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my baby has a tummy ache, my baby doesn't have
a tummy ache anymore.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
When herbs, the herbs, the herbs have been interfered with
like everything else growing on the planet. And it used
to be that we would wildcraft herbs and they would
carry the balance of the season that season, and if
we're balanced with nature, then that balance was brought back
around by the herbs.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
I assume it is this very simplistic way putting it.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
However, today they're cultivated, they're grown, they're pushed outside of
their season. How can we be sure that they're still
carrying the same kind of balance as they did years ago.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Well, as I was saying, with the food, everything has
been compromised in our world unfortunately, so our food has
been compromised, just like our herbs have been compromised. You're
absolutely correct. That's why it's very important when you're sourcing
for herbs, to source for herbs from qualified entities that
do wildcrafting or that do quality control for their herbs.
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It's the same thing even with essential oils. There's certain
essential oils that I use and there are other essential
oils that they would never use because I don't trust
their potency, I don't trust their quality. So the same
is true with our foods that we have to start
asking questions about where our food is coming from. Is
it from an organic pasture if I'm looking at even eggs,
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if I'm looking at chickens. So I have chickens here
where we are located, and there's a difference between the
eggs that my chickens lay versus the eggs that some
of my neighbors lay. Because some of my neighbors they
may get good quality grains, but that's all that their
chickens are eating grains that are manufactured and have been
probably GMO and all that kind of different stuff, whereas
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my chickens go out and they just roam the grass
and have that better quality. So it's always a question
of being aware that you have to do the investigation
about everything in your life, not just the herbs, but
the foods, the lotion that you put on your skin,
the essential oils that you're doing. Everything has to be questioned.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
So while we're busy questioning and that sounds like a
lot of research right in the meantime, we have a
lot of people here and so going out and wildcrafting
the herbs we need is not necessarily an option anymore.
So we're still relying on whoever did research, and there
isn't much money being put into researching herbs. There aren't
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very many independent studies out there on them, so where
are we going to get our information?
Speaker 4 (32:15):
So interestingly enough, we don't need to do a lot
of research with regards to herbs because herbs have been
used not only for generations but by practically every culture
that you can think of has a history of utilizing herbs,
and they have documented their use of various herbs. Now, granted,
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if you wanted to understand the chemical composition of Ecinasia,
then yes, you're going to have to quote unquote do
the research and going to a lab to discern the
chemical compositions of Ecinasia. But from the standpoint of an
ordinary Joe Schmo, Schmuket or Smurfet, like myself or like you,
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or like our daughters, our sisters, our mothers, our brothers,
we don't care about the chemical composition of Acadesia. We
just basically want to know does it work and what
does it work.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
At well, I understand I wasn't suggesting that we go
into chemical composition. My suggestion was, or my concern was,
given that there is no more wildcrafting given to speak of,
given that all of our food, including our herbs, have
been compromised. How and there's no research, no studies out
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there to speak of that cover herbs because there's not
the money in it. So how do we know what
herbs does, do what and how well they do it
at this point given all the compromises.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Well, again, number one, what I tell people is that
you want to get the best quality herbs possible to
the best of your ability. Number two, we utilize good
old fashioned converse, station and community and our experiences. You know.
So when I go out, for instance, as a provider,
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I have utilized several different types of Ecinasia, not only
for myself, but also for my children, for the people
that I work with, and I get the feedback about
which brands of Ecinasia work best. And when I look
at that feedback, I'm able to discern this brand did
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not work very well, this brand work very well, you know.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
So basically your clients, so you're kind of like guinea
pigs and you do your own study.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
No, it's not that my clients are my guinea pigs.
It's that I listen to people and I listen to
their experiences. I've utilized many of these various companies on
my own, and I get validation from looking at other
people utilizing these things and in actuality, that's what science
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is about replicating a quote unquote experience. If you are
able to replicate a quote unquote experience over and over again,
then that's confirmation. Now, interestingly enough, we may want to
talk about research, and we may talk about things like
our vaccines, and what RFK is now making more people
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aware of is that the so called research that has
been done has not been science. There has never been
vaccines that have been tested in contradiction to a placebo,
and that is how you actually test whether or not
a vaccine would work. So we have all of these
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high standards, let's say, for things like herbs, which have
been used again for hundreds of generations in many, many
different cultures, and yet we don't say the same thing
about something like a novel Creation of Man, and the
argument about whether or not it is wild crafted. Granted,
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it will deep.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
So the.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Let's talk about food is medicine. I've heard a lot
about that. Where do we go with that food is medicine?
Of course, we have to be careful of our food sources,
hopefully going for organic.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
But what do you know about that?
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Well, the reality is that your first form of medicine
is food, meaning that is what the body uses to
nourish itself. What you're using as your food is now
converted into what your body uses to restore and repair
all of the various systems in our body. So if
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we're looking at something as simple as drinking water, which
unfortunately most people are not drinking sufficient water, and then
we have the whole conversation of drinking good water and
not water coming from plastic bottles. But something as simple
as water is very key to creating balance in the body,
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to creating that fluidity to be able to help our
body to detoxify efficiently. When we look at various foods,
we look at our foods that are high in antioxidants.
We look at our foods that are high in very
good quality proteins, foods that are high in good sources
of fiber, foods that are high in your antioxidants such
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as vitamin D, vitamin E, vitamin C. You know, these
are all different nutrients that the body need. Now, I
cannot say that we will ever be a cedamnifin deficient,
but I can say without any hesitation that there's a
very real possibility that your vitamin C deficient or your
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vitamin D deficient.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
And which brings me to another point is empty hearts.
Our soil is so stripped even when you try to
go organic, and this interference with our food has gone
on for generations. There's chemicals in it. And even if
there's you know, try to go organic, if the neighbor's
growing GMO, guess what goes over across the fence. So
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isn't our food at this point a form of the
toxicity that's making us sick?
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Absolutely it is, unfortunately, And so you know, we're in
the unfortunate position of having to do the best we
can with what we have, and given that reality, unfortunately,
what I tell people is that many of us will
need to take supplements of various kinds. Different people need
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to take different supplements. Some supplements are kind of generic,
meaning all of us need to take them. But you
bring up a very very good point, and I wish
that we lived in another type of world. I wish
we were passing on to our children a world that
was better in the world that we inherited, but unfortunately
it isn't. So now we have to look at how
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do we optimize and make lemonade with the lemons that
we're given.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
The chemically infested lemons that were given.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
Right, Yes, So you know, unfortunately, as I said, it's
going to require taking charge of our lives and realizing
that we have to do a variety of different things
to improve the efficiency of our systems. And so sometimes
that means utilizing various types of supplements. Sometimes it means
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being a lot stricter with your diet, not having as
much leeway. So you know, I think many of us
who are listening to this remember George Burns, right, and
George Burns was notorious as being a drinker and a
smoker and living to I guess I think it was
like one hundred and something. We can't get away with
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those things anymore. We can't get away with drinking and
smoking and excessiveness to the degree that George Burns was
able to get get get away with it. The same
thing when we look at people in the older generations
of our family. You know, they said, well, I've been
eating this stuff since I was a little girl, and
nothing never happened to May guess what. They were of
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a stronger stock back then than Unfortunately, our children and
our grandchildren due to the compromised nature of our environment.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
It's certainly compromised. That's a fact.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
And it's you know, you you talked about supplementation, but
all those aren't created equal either, aren't they.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Nope, Nope, not at all. You have to be very
you know, I was talking to a young lady the
other day and she's very strapped for cash. So part
of what she does is that she has Medicaid, and
Medicaid has an arrangement with CBS where every month she's
able to get I think, like fifty dollars worth of
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things from CBS. And she was asking me, well, Michelle,
which supplements should I get from CBS to be able to,
you know, help my situation? And I said, oh, I
don't know if I would necessarily go to that source
for my supplementation. And it's hard, you know, because when
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you're looking at going to your quality supplements, we're going
to need to.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Think We're going to need to take a station break.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Please stay with This is doctor Gamble and I continue
to explore healthcare alternatives. This is Mission Evolution, Mission evolution
dot org.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Are we naturally sick or naturally healthy?
Speaker 2 (41:42):
This is Mission Evolution, Mission Evolution dot org. Or can
continuing our discussion with doctor Michelle Gamble her website Holistic
Healingdoctor dot com. Doctor Michelle, let's talk a little bit
about community immunity.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
Well, you know, one of the most inspirational messages that
I can leave with you is that in the midst
of all of this craziness, and you know, it can
be very depressing sometimes if you really meander into the
depths of it. You know, we say, well, our environment
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is toxic, Our foods aren't toxic. Are toxic, sorry, our
herbs are compromised. Even the supplements can be toxic if
you're getting them from certain sources. There's one phenomenal light
at the end of the tunnel that I could share
with you, which is that even when we go back
in history and we look at what we refer to
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as the blue zones, these are the zones in our
world where you have the most amount of centenarians people
who live into their hundreds. When we look and we
compare these various blue zones, we notice that all of
them don't eat the same food. Of them don't have
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the same type of temperate environment, all of them don't
drink the same drinks, all of them don't engage in
the same kind of physical activities. But there's one thing
that is consistent across the board from one blue zone
to the next, and that is community, when people gather
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together and support each other. And in fact, the research
that comes out lets us know that if someone is
in a community, he or she will be much more
effective at his or her health program. And I've seen
this in terms of the people that I work with.
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When I'm working with an individual, one of the first
things that I ask is do you have someone to
support you? Is their brother, a sister, a mother, a husband,
a wife, even a son, a daughter. And one of
the things that I encourage people to do is to
find someone someone, at least one person that you can
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say is going to be your accountability buddy, is going
to be your sounding board, is going to be your cheerleader,
your rah rah rah, because that is what is going
to help you to feed into that ability for you
to heal. On a practical level, that person can either
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inspire you with testimonials or inspire you with motivation, or
that person can say, hey, you know what, you didn't
take your supplements, or you didn't eat your food, or
you didn't go shopping, or you didn't go on for
your exercise. At the very least, that person can do that,
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but even more importantly, that person gives you the energetic
reality that you you are not alone. Loneliness has such
a detrimental impact on our bodies, our minds, our hearts,
and our souls. You know, they've done studies, for instance,
where they've had babies that were newly born and they
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would provide both the babies with the nutrients that they need,
and one baby had a nurse that would pull the
baby and snuggle the baby and take care of the
baby and suthe the baby, and the other baby they
left to just be on his own. They actually had
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to stop that study because of the detrimental impact on
the baby that did not have that contact with another
human being. And we see that not only in studies,
but you can look at the people around you. You know,
we sometimes talk about our elders. And if you have
a couple, if one person dies the husband or the
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wife dies, the next person will die shortly after in
a lot of cases because all of a sudden, that
person has lost their anchor, That person has lost the
ability to be with someone that gives them the message
that you are not alone, you are loved, you are supported.
So what I share with people over and over again
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is that community is actually your strongest immunity. Community is
actually your best form of medicine. In many ways, it
doesn't make a difference how much good food you take,
organic food, how much phenomenal herbs you take. If you
feel that you are isolated, if you feel that you
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are alone, if you feel that the world is against you,
that acts as more of a poison than anything else.
And that is why in about twenty eighteen twenty nineteen,
the British government created a new position in their government
called the Minister of Loneliness. So here we have say,
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for instance, the Secretary of the Fens, the Secretary of Health.
In the UK, they have the ministers, you know. So
they created this new position for the Minister of Loneliness
because they realized even then, prior to twenty twenty that
a significant part of their population was self identifying as
being lonely and that's what's having a significant impact on
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their health. Therefore, they created this position in order to
do the research about ways of helping to create people
in communities because they have found that that feeling of loneliness,
that feeling of being utterly utterly by yourself, is worse
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to your health than smoking a pack of cigarettes a day.
And I encourage you guys to do the research, to
look into this study that I'm talking to you about,
the study with the babies, as well as what was
done in the UK with the Minister of Lonelies, and
then to look at what has happened through the COVID era.
When the COVID debacle started, I warned people of what
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we now know to be the deaths of the spear,
because I said, when you put people in isolation, when
you tell a grandmother that she can no longer be
around her grandchildren, when you tell a husband that he
can now long be around his wife, when you isolate
children away from their playmates, it creates a significant impact
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of disease and malaise.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
Well, we've certainly seen that since COVID nineteen. So on
another topic, I understand that you're creating a sanctuary for
homeless female vets and their children. Do you want to
tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 4 (48:54):
Well, in alignment with the understanding that community is so important,
I am one of the directors that it takes a
village ministry and our mission is to create natural healing
communities across the globe, and so we encourage people to
self identify and say, you know what, I want to
create a community in my local area. And so this
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is an extension of our mission. What we have come
to realize is that there's a significant number of our
female veterans that have children that unfortunately have gotten into
the situation of being homeless or having that insecurity with
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regards to housing. What we are looking to do is
to create a sanctuary that will help our veterans to
heal not only from things like PTSD and unfortunately a
lot of our female veterans are also dealing with sexual trauma,
but more importantly, to help them to not pass on
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the detriment aspects of that trauma to their children. We're
going to be doing in this sanctuary. It is actually
going to be a twelve month vocational residency program that
is going to help these women to come together to
support each other as women and as mothers and to learn, sorry,
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learn a vocational skill, to become more savvy with regards
to entrepreneurship, financial management, and to become more self sufficient.
So at the end of that twelve month period they
able to go off on their own and to become
and maintain their self sufficiency.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
I understand it's a nonprofit.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
Is that correct?
Speaker 4 (50:40):
Yes, it takes a village ministry as a nonprofit organization,
and the sanctuary is going to be the Roots and
Resilience Sanctuary.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
Well, on another note, are your services covered by in
Canada the government or in the US private insurance?
Speaker 4 (50:57):
No? No, not at all, not at all.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
So do you have a sliding scale for people?
Speaker 4 (51:02):
What do you Yes, we actually have a very innovative
membership program because again we want to emphasize community. And
what I say to people is that Michelle does not
have all the answers. In fact, you are very intelligent
and capable. I have learned so much from the people
that I've worked with, and so we have various levels
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of membership that allows people to interact with that's at
a very minimal price point. Who's us say it again?
Speaker 3 (51:33):
I said, who is us?
Speaker 4 (51:34):
Our team? Yeah, so there are lots of people in
our team. So we have our foundational healthcare providers such
as doctor Tom Lewis and myself. We also have other providers,
and then we have a homeopath, actually we have two homeopaths.
We have someone who specializes in the essential oils, someone
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who specializes in body mastery, you know, posture alignment and
those types of things. And we also have what we
refer to as health stewards what other people know as
health coaches, but we take it one step further because
one of their things, one of their missions is to
empower people to have mastery of this information and to
be able to share it in their communities and with
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their loved ones.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
So let's move on. I would be remiss if I
didn't ask you, doctor Gamble, what is your mission?
Speaker 4 (52:26):
My mission is to help people to actualize love, living
optimally with vitality and elation. To create the relationships within yourself,
within your own person, whether it be the relationship between
your hormonal system and your digestive system and your autonomic system.
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And to create the relationships in your community that help
you to live optimally with vitality and elation.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
When did when did we lose relationships?
Speaker 3 (53:01):
When did we lose community? You know, it's been a while.
Speaker 4 (53:05):
Yeah, it's been a while, and it's very sad to
see our nation in this particular passage of time where
we are seeing our neighbors as our enemies. And unfortunately,
I guess it's just a part of our development that
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we have to go through these passages of darkness. And
that's why I encourage people to be the light, to
be the person in your community that reaches out. You know,
I recently moved to the country, and for the first
time in my life, I made it my mission to
go out and meet all my neighbors. I have never
before made any attempt to interact with my neighbors. But
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I came here and I said, you know what, I've
got to do something differently. I've got to have that
recognition that I cannot be by myself. We were not
designed to be an island, we were not designed to
be in isolation. And so I said, in order for
me to be able to preach this message of community,
I have to live it. I can't tell all the
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people who go out there and be part of community
and I'm not. And so I did that and it
was the best thing ever. Now I can walk out
my door and I can literally say hi to everybody
that I beat, and I have this sense of peace
knowing that I'm not alone, knowing that if anything happens,
I can run next door and there'll be someone there
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that I know and that I know will help me.
Speaker 3 (54:38):
No, that's a wonderful thing.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
Unfortunately we are out of time, Doctor Gamble, thank you
so much for coming on the show.
Speaker 4 (54:44):
Thank you for having me here as a guest.
Speaker 2 (54:48):
Our guest is our has been doctor Michelle Gamble, the
author of Mommy, Birthing the Goddess for our Children's sake
and creating a happier.
Speaker 3 (54:55):
Healthier you.
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Despite advancements in healthcare, a growing number of number of
people are experiencing worsening health issues. This is a trand
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What's going on?
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Resistance to them.
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Doctor Gamble is the co founder and director of ita
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and speaker who specializes in assisting persons with chronic illness
to transform their health. Doctor Gamble has been a professional
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educator for over twenty five years and a healthcare provider
for over twenty. She has a bachelor's in mathematics and
English with an emphasis on secondary school education, a master's
and doctorate in naturlogy. Doctor Gamble is a board certified
alternative healthcare provider with advanced training and certification in various
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areas of health. Her website the holeest healingdoctor dot com.
Doctor Gamble, thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Thank you for inviting me. It is wonderful to be
here with your community.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
It's great to have you. So your biostates. You have
a master's and a doate in naturalogy. What is naturlogy?
Speaker 4 (02:17):
That's a very good question. Naturalogy is actually the study
of nature's cures. Several years ago, when we go back
to the early nineteen hundreds, there was a significant coup,
I guess you can say, of the healthcare paradigm in
our country. It was basically taken over by special interests,
corporate interests, oil tycoons, and things of that nature. When
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that occurred, they basically pushed out the previous natural healing
modalities to replace it with a new type of institution
which emphasized the importance of pharmaceuticals that were derived from
chemical byproducts. And so when I went into the field
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of study, I first started out interestingly enough, thinking that
I wanted to go into medicine because my family members
have been nurses, and I thought, Okay, I'll go in
and I'll be a doctor. And then when I went
into my first semester, I said, nah, this is not
me because what I realized is that I did not
believe in pharmaceuticals. I really believe in nature's cures. And
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at that time, there was the choices of going into
what's called naturopathy, which is basically the study of utilizing
some modalities of nature but really within the same medical context,
or going into naturrology, and a lot of the old
schools like Clayton Institute of Healing, American Institute of Holistic Healing,
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all of these different institutions that were based on herbalism
and things of that nature have been pushed out of
the healthcare modality through a lot of interesting politics and shenanigans.
But in any case, that's a long roundabout answer to
your question.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
So you're a board certified alternative healthcare practitioner. Are you
also a medical doctor?
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Absolutely not. I am not a medical doctor. I do
not diagnose, cure, treat disease. It's actually contrary to my
entire paradigm of how I help people to heal themselves.
So a lot of times people think that I say
these various things as a way of getting around the
legality of different things, But in reality, I have no
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desire to diagnose, treat, or cure any type of disease,
because in reality, that prevents an individual from actually healing.
How So, well, when we look at the paradigm of
what I refer to as healing versus curing, curing implies
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that you're going to use an intervention such as the
patchwork piece, a powder, a pill, a potion, procedure, or
the elevation of some person or program in your life.
It gives you the understanding that something other than you,
or the divine entity that's within you, is doing the healing.
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And so the world that we live in right now
is really based on convincing people that you need something
outside of yourself to heal, that somehow you are so
broken that the design, the construct of everything that is
that you identify as you is deficient or decrepit, and
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therefore you need something else to give you that intervention
aka a cure, whereas healing gives you the understanding that
it is this innate power that is within you. You
have a divine birthright, You have this ability within yourself
that is actually on automatic. What many people don't realize
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is that every moment of the day you are in
the process of healing body, mind, heart and spirit. In fact,
that is the divine design. The divine design is for
all of these various aspects of your being to work
behind the scenes, to work autonomously conspiring to keep you healthy,
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to keep you well, to keep you whole.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
So let's back up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
You said there was a coup, if you will, Where
do you find out about this? Where can other people
look it up?
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Well, you can look this up by looking into what
happened when Rockefeller entered into the whole paradigm of medicine.
So Rockefeller and other type boons decided that they want
to have a way of utilizing the byproducts of their chemicals,
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and so they decided, hmmm, this can actually work within
the medical paradigm. So within in the early nineteen hundreds.
What happened is that these various robber barons you can
call them, would enter into the medical institutions, the medical
universities and say, you know what, tell you what, we
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are going to donate millions to your university if you
will allow us to be on the board. And so
they created that interesting relationship, that incestuous relationship that continues
to this day where pretty much big Pharma has a
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lot of influence over what happens in our medical institutions
in terms of training our doctors, and most of our
medical doctors are basically trained in terms of how to
utilize pharmaceuticals. What many people don't realize is that your
typical doctor has received less than a couple of hours
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in nutrition. Your typical doctor has no understanding of how
to help you to heal naturally. They are very well versed, however,
in how to diagnose something, meaning give a code, and
based on that code, they're going to give you a
prescription of pharmaceutical that is going to be used to
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manage your disease state. At no point in time do
they ever give you the illusion that they're actually going
to help you to heal or reverse the disease state.
They'll say, you know what, here's the medication to manage
your diabetes. Here's the medication to manage your hypertension. So
all of this, like I said, began in the early
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nineteen eighteen, sorry, early nineteen hundreds, where where you had
that marriage of your pharmaceutical companies and the medical institutions.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
So the.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Wasn't the pharmaceuticals originally based on some of the herbal remedies,
and then they first they cut out all the cut
it down to its constituent parts, took count the balance,
and then started chemically reproducing it.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Well, that was prior to the early nineteen hundreds, so
that was going back as I was saying before, where
your traditional doctors people before the nineteen hundreds, they were
utilizing the herbs, they were utilizing foods, they were utilizing
say even essential oils, back flower memodies, homeopathy even And
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then when we enter into the early nineteen hundreds and
the mid nineteen hundreds, that is when you have the
introduction of pharmaceuticals in the as a bi product of
the chemicals. And so we are coming back from World
War II, world War One, and they're saying, hmm, we
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don't have anything to use these chemicals for. And you
know what, we kind of noticed that when people were
exposed to these chemicals they had xyz quote unquote side effects.
So they started to make the correlation between utilizing various
chemicals and being able to force the body to do
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certain things. So, yes, originally medicine came from plants, came
from animals, came from our environment in the form of
cell salts and things of that nature. But as we
progress into what we currently understand as modern medicine, really
and truly it's based pretty much on what is concocted
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in a lab and has very little to do with
the original herbal constituencies. And at the same time, as
you said, another part of this is that they started
to isolate what they would call the active ingredient of
an herb and use that particular active component as sorry
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in isolation. Now, again, if we're looking at the modality
of quote unquote curing, meaning forcing the body to have
a certain response, forcing the body to manage a certain symptomology,
then that's perfectly fine. But if you're actually looking for
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the process of healing, that's not fine because the reality
is that there are fifty million different components in an
herb that are more in the supportive kind of role,
you know. So when we look at say, willow bark,
where they were able to take the active ingredient out
of that to create aspirins and things to help you
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with regards to pain. Yes, that active ingredient is going
to help you to not feel the pain. But all
the other components that were in the willow bark that
the body would utilize to actually help to nourish the body,
help the body to heal in a deep and more comprehensive,
holistic fashion, all of that is reverse because now the
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name of the game is not helping you to heal.
The name of the game is resolving the symptoms or
managing the symptoms.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
So when was Bach make When did Bach create his
backflower remedies? I thought that was in the nineteen hundreds.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Yes, but that's earlier, you know. And the other thing
to keep in mind is that these people who created
things like the bakflower remedies that created the cell sauce
of tissue salts, that created the homeopathy, that type of science,
that type of medicine was propaganda, to be quote unquote
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discredited and for people to mock those types of modalities
because in comes in as I said, the pharmaceutical companies
that have their medications that have a more immediate effect
on the body, and they have an effect of managing
a symptom. And as I said, they have infiltrated the
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medical universities. And so now the people who are talking
to you about the herbs, the people who are talking
to you about homeopathy, they are now being kicked out
of the medical institutions and they are looked at as
being quote unquote snake oil salesman.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
But now it's time for us to take a station break,
doctor Gamble, and I will return very shortly, so don't
go away. This is Mission Evolution www dot Mission evolution
dot org. What do you mean they don't want as well?
With this is our is doctor Michelle Gamble, the author
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of Creating a Happier, Healthier You her website, The Holistic
Healingdoctor dot com.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Doctor Campbell.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
When we talk about, you know, the system is not
wanting as well, It sounds kind of like a conspiracy.
Where are you getting your information.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
On this, Well, we're getting the information from looking at
the reality of what's happening in our country right now.
We are looking at spending more than four point trillion
dollars on health, and yet we are one of the
sickest nations in the world. It seems the more money
that we spend on health, the worse we get. We're
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looking at the fact that more than sixty six percent
of us have a chronic illness. We're looking at the
fact that more than fifty percent of our children have
a chronic illness. We're looking at the fact that when
you look at our children. I started teaching back in
the nineteen nineties, and when I was teaching, it was
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practically unheard of to have somebody in your classroom with
a peanut allergy. Now practically every kid has some form
of allergy. Either they're allergic to peanuts, or they're allergic
to dogs and cats, they're allergic to the the pollen.
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I've even heard. Now you have people who are allergic
to sunshine. And so we're getting sicker and sicker and sicker,
even though we're spending more and more money. And so
that should tell us that something is rotten in Denmark,
as Shakespeare would say.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
So how do you relate the allergies that the children
are starting to exhibit. Back to the pharmaceutical companies.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Well, we're looking at the way in which we are
over activating the immune system. We're looking at the fact
that when I was a little girl, I probably had
maybe at most five or six immunizations. Now, when we
look at the vaccine schedule, we're talking about children at
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least seventy two vaccines, if not when you start counting
in the COVID vaccines, it's more so like ninety something vaccines. Now,
keep in mind that vaccines are based on the idea
that you are going to overactivate the immune system. You're
going to make the immune system now start to respond
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to some sort of infiltrator. Okay, to make things simple,
when you do that over time, over and over and
over and over again, especially to young children, young babies
that have immature immune systems. When a baby is born,
a baby has a very immature immune system, and therefore
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it's dependent on the mother's immune system. However, on the
first day that a baby comes into this world, a
baby is given a hepatitis BE vaccination, And you may
ask yourself, why would you do something, Why would you
introduce a hepatitis be vaccination, which is basically transferred one
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individual to another through sexual activity, through promiscuity, things of
that nature. Or the one exception would be a mother
who has hepatitis BE. But the reality is less than
one percent of mothers have a hepatitis BE infection when
giving birth, and those parents are automatically identified because every
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mother that goes into a hospital is given a test
to identify whether or not she has hepatitis BE. So
those babies can automatically be identified and given the vaccine.
If that's the case. In any case, what's happening now
is that we're having the overactivation of the immune system
that in combination with the fact that we have coming
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from Big Pharma, we have quote unquote food that is
no longer actually food. We're looking at food that no
longer has the nutritional component that we used to have
in food, say forty fifty years ago.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
If I want, I won't argue with you about the
quality of our food and you know, Frank and food
if you will. But how does that relate back to
Big Pharma? He kind of lost me there.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Okay, So, as I said, big Pharma has to do
with the medications. So one of the main medications that
children receive from the very first breath of life is immunizations,
and those immunizations have been compounded significantly over the past
thirty years. So what has happened is that now we're
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basically assaulting the immune system of our children and exalting
the immune system of individuals that have an immature immune system.
First and foremost, a child doesn't fully develop their immune
system until about three to five years of age, but
the majority of vaccines that are issued to a child
are before the age of three. And so you have
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a situation where you are going in and you are
aggravating the immune system. You're over activating the immune system.
And when you overactivate the immune system, you're disregulating the
immune system. And so that is one aspect of how
we're having the manifestation. So if you will, of hyperactivity
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of the immune system, dysregulation of the immune system. So
that comes in the form of various types of allergies.
It also comes in the form of various types of
autoimmune conditions and several other conditions.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
So where is the food and drug administration.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
In all of this, Well, the food and drug administration
is in bed with big food and big pharma. You know,
a lot of times people don't realize that a lot
of the people that are running these agencies are taking
kickbacks from the agencies, and the kickbacks come in a
variety of different forms. One of the major forms that
it comes back is you'll notice that after they leave
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something like the Food and Drug Administration, interestingly enough, they've
become part of the boards of these various pharmaceutical companies.
And that is why one of the things that Robert F.
Kennedy Junior has done most recently is that he completely
overhauled was called the ASIPs, the committee that would oversee
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whether or not to approve various immunizations. So when he
went into the administration, we realized that there were a
lot of interesting relationships that people were not disclosing with
regards to their role as part of things like the
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Food Administration, food and Drug Administration, as well as part
of these various committees that will approve or disapprove various
medications and in this case, immunizations. And so because of
those conflicts of interest, he fired everyone and now we
are slowly building a new committee and hopefully as time
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moves on, we'll be able to avoid these various forms
of conflex of interests. But you see this very as
I said, incestuous relationship not only between our government and
these various pharmaceutical companies, big food companies, but also between
the various agencies and these various organizations companies and our institutions.
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So there's the questions that I teach our doctors.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Let's move back to herbology, if that's the way you
say it. It was, of course a very viable form
of healing back when, but today it seems like for
whatever reason there people can hang their shingles and robologies
without any training whatsoever. Its self taught. So when did
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the when did the regulations slip away from applying to
herbs and.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
The people that would distribute them.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Well, one of the things to keep in mind is
that the field of herbology is one of nature, meaning
there's very little that you can do with regards to
quote unquote regulating nature. You know, if I go and
I tell you, hey, go and eat an apple, an
apple is food. Various herbs are foods. Now the question
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becomes as the saying goes, let the buyer beware copy
of mtur. So in most occasions, what I tell people,
as with everyone else, even with quote unquote medical doctors.
I say to people, you need to do the research
about the provider that you are putting your health in. Okay,
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I do not care about the letters behind someone's names.
I don't care who calls him or herself an expert,
especially today, because anyone and everyone, as you said, can
quote unquote call themselves an expert. And we have people
with various degrees and alphabet soup letters behind their names
with part of their names, and it's irrelevant. What's most
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important is for you to get validation of whether or
not that person is capable. And so what I tell people,
just like I was talking to a woman this morning
about an issue pertaining to mold, and she was given
information that she just had a significant mold infestation in
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her house and these people came in and gave her
estimates and mold remediation, and she later found out that
it was a scam. And so I said, did you
do some research on these people? And she said, you
know what, Michelle, after the fact, I went and I
did research on these people, I said, and she said,
you know, I think I want to start doing that
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in the beginning, you know, instead of going down that
rabbit hole. It's so the same thing is true now
with whether you're talking about supplements or you're talking about herbs,
or you're talking about these various bright, shiny objects devices,
you know, whether it be infrared pads and magnetic pads
and all of these various things you for better or
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for worse. We're in America where your responsibility is realizing
that you are responsible for your health. It doesn't. And
even when we talk about medical doctors, again, have you
done research on the people that have all of these
alphabet suit behind their names?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
So you state that all people have a divine healer?
And we talked it started into talking about that. Would
you go into it a little more for us please?
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Well, one of the things that I want us to
remember is when we were children. I'm sure every single
one of us, at some point in time fell right
and you cut yourself. Guess what, Mom or dad or
auntie or uncle or somebody came along and cleaned out
the wound, you know, maybe put a little band aid
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on it, and then a couple days later you pulled
off the band aid and you had healed. That is
what I'm saying. Every one of us has a direct
relationship to understanding what I'm saying. In terms of knowing
that you have within you the divine power to heal.
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The question always becomes, are you supporting that divine healer
or are you putting more obstructions to sabotage that divine healing.
And so now we look at also whether or not
we even believe that we can heal, because remember the
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messaging that we're getting everywhere. You turn on your TV
and every single ad is saying, there's something wrong with you.
If you're sad, there's something wrong with you. If you're mad,
there's something wrong with you. If you think very quickly,
there's something wrong with you. If you have a tummy ache,
there's something wrong with you. And that's nature's fault. We've
got to fix nature, as opposed to saying, hmm, I
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was created by divine creator, and I know that this
is not the desire of that creation. When you created
your babies, you did not want your babies to have
all kinds of malays. When you create a car, if
you were the creator of a car, you don't want
the car to be breaking down. So obviously the entity
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that created us did not want us to just break apart,
full apart. So what I'm saying is that that divine
healer is within.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
So the divine healer?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Does that depends on a religious viewpoint?
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Oh absolutely not, absolutely not. You know, so you know,
you can be gooo, you can be Christian, you can
be Jewish, you can be atheistic, None of that matters.
What matters is that you have the understanding that there's
something powerful that resides in every single person. There's some
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type of automatic default programming that kicks in when there's
something off that says, you know what, we need to
bring balance back. We need to reintegrate the different parts
of our being, and that is always happening.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
We're going to have to reintegrate on the other side
of yet another station break, doctor Gamble and I will
be right back to continue our discussion. So stay right there.
That's his Mission Evolution, Mission evolution dot org. Is there
a blueprint for healing? This is Mission Evolution, Mission Evolution
dot Org. With us discussing alternatives to traditional medicine. Is
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doctor Michelle Gamble her website, The Holistic Healing Doctor dot com.
Doctor Gamble, we we can't argue that medical doctors have
spent a lot of time learning about the physical body.
And I mean they spend a lot of time in college.
How do you how do you presume to be able
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to better understand the physical body without that level of education,
And where do you come up with the idea that
you know, what you say is is backed in in.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Fact well, first and foremost, to understand again that medical
doctors have significant training. I will never ever disparage what
medical doctors do with regards to acute care, crisis care,
and intervention. If I were to get knocked down by
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a mack truck, God forbid, what I tell people is,
do not take me to the local herbalists. Do not
take me to the local omeopath. Take me to the
nearest er, because I recognize that that is the way
that I need to travene in that moment of crisis
to get my body back in alignment. Now, that is
very different from understanding how there is an innate aspect
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of one's being that can produce healing. And this is
something that ancients have understood. Our grandmothers understood, and our
grandmothers didn't have PhDs, Our grandmothers didn't have you know,
years of medical school, but they knew from generations that
herbs worked. That Okay, if I use this herb when
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my baby has a tummy ache, my baby doesn't have
a tummy ache anymore.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
When herbs, the herbs, the herbs have been interfered with
like everything else growing on the planet. And it used
to be that we would wildcraft herbs and they would
carry the balance of the season that season, and if
we're balanced with nature, then that balance was brought back
around by the herbs.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
I assume it is this very simplistic way putting it.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
However, today they're cultivated, they're grown, they're pushed outside of
their season. How can we be sure that they're still
carrying the same kind of balance as they did years ago.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Well, as I was saying, with the food, everything has
been compromised in our world unfortunately, so our food has
been compromised, just like our herbs have been compromised. You're
absolutely correct. That's why it's very important when you're sourcing
for herbs, to source for herbs from qualified entities that
do wildcrafting or that do quality control for their herbs.
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It's the same thing even with essential oils. There's certain
essential oils that I use and there are other essential
oils that they would never use because I don't trust
their potency, I don't trust their quality. So the same
is true with our foods that we have to start
asking questions about where our food is coming from. Is
it from an organic pasture if I'm looking at even eggs,
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if I'm looking at chickens. So I have chickens here
where we are located, and there's a difference between the
eggs that my chickens lay versus the eggs that some
of my neighbors lay. Because some of my neighbors they
may get good quality grains, but that's all that their
chickens are eating grains that are manufactured and have been
probably GMO and all that kind of different stuff, whereas
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my chickens go out and they just roam the grass
and have that better quality. So it's always a question
of being aware that you have to do the investigation
about everything in your life, not just the herbs, but
the foods, the lotion that you put on your skin,
the essential oils that you're doing. Everything has to be questioned.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
So while we're busy questioning and that sounds like a
lot of research right in the meantime, we have a
lot of people here and so going out and wildcrafting
the herbs we need is not necessarily an option anymore.
So we're still relying on whoever did research, and there
isn't much money being put into researching herbs. There aren't
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very many independent studies out there on them, so where
are we going to get our information?
Speaker 4 (32:15):
So interestingly enough, we don't need to do a lot
of research with regards to herbs because herbs have been
used not only for generations but by practically every culture
that you can think of has a history of utilizing herbs,
and they have documented their use of various herbs. Now, granted,
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if you wanted to understand the chemical composition of Ecinasia,
then yes, you're going to have to quote unquote do
the research and going to a lab to discern the
chemical compositions of Ecinasia. But from the standpoint of an
ordinary Joe Schmo, Schmuket or Smurfet, like myself or like you,
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or like our daughters, our sisters, our mothers, our brothers,
we don't care about the chemical composition of Acadesia. We
just basically want to know does it work and what
does it work.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
At well, I understand I wasn't suggesting that we go
into chemical composition. My suggestion was, or my concern was,
given that there is no more wildcrafting given to speak of,
given that all of our food, including our herbs, have
been compromised. How and there's no research, no studies out
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there to speak of that cover herbs because there's not
the money in it. So how do we know what
herbs does, do what and how well they do it
at this point given all the compromises.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Well, again, number one, what I tell people is that
you want to get the best quality herbs possible to
the best of your ability. Number two, we utilize good
old fashioned converse, station and community and our experiences. You know.
So when I go out, for instance, as a provider,
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I have utilized several different types of Ecinasia, not only
for myself, but also for my children, for the people
that I work with, and I get the feedback about
which brands of Ecinasia work best. And when I look
at that feedback, I'm able to discern this brand did
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not work very well, this brand work very well, you know.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
So basically your clients, so you're kind of like guinea
pigs and you do your own study.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
No, it's not that my clients are my guinea pigs.
It's that I listen to people and I listen to
their experiences. I've utilized many of these various companies on
my own, and I get validation from looking at other
people utilizing these things and in actuality, that's what science
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is about replicating a quote unquote experience. If you are
able to replicate a quote unquote experience over and over again,
then that's confirmation. Now, interestingly enough, we may want to
talk about research, and we may talk about things like
our vaccines, and what RFK is now making more people
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aware of is that the so called research that has
been done has not been science. There has never been
vaccines that have been tested in contradiction to a placebo,
and that is how you actually test whether or not
a vaccine would work. So we have all of these
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high standards, let's say, for things like herbs, which have
been used again for hundreds of generations in many, many
different cultures, and yet we don't say the same thing
about something like a novel Creation of Man, and the
argument about whether or not it is wild crafted. Granted,
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it will deep.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
So the.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Let's talk about food is medicine. I've heard a lot
about that. Where do we go with that food is medicine?
Of course, we have to be careful of our food sources,
hopefully going for organic.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
But what do you know about that?
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Well, the reality is that your first form of medicine
is food, meaning that is what the body uses to
nourish itself. What you're using as your food is now
converted into what your body uses to restore and repair
all of the various systems in our body. So if
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we're looking at something as simple as drinking water, which
unfortunately most people are not drinking sufficient water, and then
we have the whole conversation of drinking good water and
not water coming from plastic bottles. But something as simple
as water is very key to creating balance in the body,
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to creating that fluidity to be able to help our
body to detoxify efficiently. When we look at various foods,
we look at our foods that are high in antioxidants.
We look at our foods that are high in very
good quality proteins, foods that are high in good sources
of fiber, foods that are high in your antioxidants such
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as vitamin D, vitamin E, vitamin C. You know, these
are all different nutrients that the body need. Now, I
cannot say that we will ever be a cedamnifin deficient,
but I can say without any hesitation that there's a
very real possibility that your vitamin C deficient or your
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vitamin D deficient.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
And which brings me to another point is empty hearts.
Our soil is so stripped even when you try to
go organic, and this interference with our food has gone
on for generations. There's chemicals in it. And even if
there's you know, try to go organic, if the neighbor's
growing GMO, guess what goes over across the fence. So
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isn't our food at this point a form of the
toxicity that's making us sick?
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Absolutely it is, unfortunately, And so you know, we're in
the unfortunate position of having to do the best we
can with what we have, and given that reality, unfortunately,
what I tell people is that many of us will
need to take supplements of various kinds. Different people need
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to take different supplements. Some supplements are kind of generic,
meaning all of us need to take them. But you
bring up a very very good point, and I wish
that we lived in another type of world. I wish
we were passing on to our children a world that
was better in the world that we inherited, but unfortunately
it isn't. So now we have to look at how
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do we optimize and make lemonade with the lemons that
we're given.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
The chemically infested lemons that were given.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
Right, Yes, So you know, unfortunately, as I said, it's
going to require taking charge of our lives and realizing
that we have to do a variety of different things
to improve the efficiency of our systems. And so sometimes
that means utilizing various types of supplements. Sometimes it means
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being a lot stricter with your diet, not having as
much leeway. So you know, I think many of us
who are listening to this remember George Burns, right, and
George Burns was notorious as being a drinker and a
smoker and living to I guess I think it was
like one hundred and something. We can't get away with
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those things anymore. We can't get away with drinking and
smoking and excessiveness to the degree that George Burns was
able to get get get away with it. The same
thing when we look at people in the older generations
of our family. You know, they said, well, I've been
eating this stuff since I was a little girl, and
nothing never happened to May guess what. They were of
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a stronger stock back then than Unfortunately, our children and
our grandchildren due to the compromised nature of our environment.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
It's certainly compromised. That's a fact.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
And it's you know, you you talked about supplementation, but
all those aren't created equal either, aren't they.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Nope, Nope, not at all. You have to be very
you know, I was talking to a young lady the
other day and she's very strapped for cash. So part
of what she does is that she has Medicaid, and
Medicaid has an arrangement with CBS where every month she's
able to get I think, like fifty dollars worth of
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things from CBS. And she was asking me, well, Michelle,
which supplements should I get from CBS to be able to,
you know, help my situation? And I said, oh, I
don't know if I would necessarily go to that source
for my supplementation. And it's hard, you know, because when
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you're looking at going to your quality supplements, we're going
to need to.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Think We're going to need to take a station break.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Please stay with This is doctor Gamble and I continue
to explore healthcare alternatives. This is Mission Evolution, Mission evolution
dot org.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Are we naturally sick or naturally healthy?
Speaker 2 (41:42):
This is Mission Evolution, Mission Evolution dot org. Or can
continuing our discussion with doctor Michelle Gamble her website Holistic
Healingdoctor dot com. Doctor Michelle, let's talk a little bit
about community immunity.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
Well, you know, one of the most inspirational messages that
I can leave with you is that in the midst
of all of this craziness, and you know, it can
be very depressing sometimes if you really meander into the
depths of it. You know, we say, well, our environment
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is toxic, Our foods aren't toxic. Are toxic, sorry, our
herbs are compromised. Even the supplements can be toxic if
you're getting them from certain sources. There's one phenomenal light
at the end of the tunnel that I could share
with you, which is that even when we go back
in history and we look at what we refer to
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as the blue zones, these are the zones in our
world where you have the most amount of centenarians people
who live into their hundreds. When we look and we
compare these various blue zones, we notice that all of
them don't eat the same food. Of them don't have
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the same type of temperate environment, all of them don't
drink the same drinks, all of them don't engage in
the same kind of physical activities. But there's one thing
that is consistent across the board from one blue zone
to the next, and that is community, when people gather
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together and support each other. And in fact, the research
that comes out lets us know that if someone is
in a community, he or she will be much more
effective at his or her health program. And I've seen
this in terms of the people that I work with.
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When I'm working with an individual, one of the first
things that I ask is do you have someone to
support you? Is their brother, a sister, a mother, a husband,
a wife, even a son, a daughter. And one of
the things that I encourage people to do is to
find someone someone, at least one person that you can
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say is going to be your accountability buddy, is going
to be your sounding board, is going to be your cheerleader,
your rah rah rah, because that is what is going
to help you to feed into that ability for you
to heal. On a practical level, that person can either
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inspire you with testimonials or inspire you with motivation, or
that person can say, hey, you know what, you didn't
take your supplements, or you didn't eat your food, or
you didn't go shopping, or you didn't go on for
your exercise. At the very least, that person can do that,
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but even more importantly, that person gives you the energetic
reality that you you are not alone. Loneliness has such
a detrimental impact on our bodies, our minds, our hearts,
and our souls. You know, they've done studies, for instance,
where they've had babies that were newly born and they
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would provide both the babies with the nutrients that they need,
and one baby had a nurse that would pull the
baby and snuggle the baby and take care of the
baby and suthe the baby, and the other baby they
left to just be on his own. They actually had
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to stop that study because of the detrimental impact on
the baby that did not have that contact with another
human being. And we see that not only in studies,
but you can look at the people around you. You know,
we sometimes talk about our elders. And if you have
a couple, if one person dies the husband or the
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wife dies, the next person will die shortly after in
a lot of cases because all of a sudden, that
person has lost their anchor, That person has lost the
ability to be with someone that gives them the message
that you are not alone, you are loved, you are supported.
So what I share with people over and over again
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is that community is actually your strongest immunity. Community is
actually your best form of medicine. In many ways, it
doesn't make a difference how much good food you take,
organic food, how much phenomenal herbs you take. If you
feel that you are isolated, if you feel that you
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are alone, if you feel that the world is against you,
that acts as more of a poison than anything else.
And that is why in about twenty eighteen twenty nineteen,
the British government created a new position in their government
called the Minister of Loneliness. So here we have say,
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for instance, the Secretary of the Fens, the Secretary of Health.
In the UK, they have the ministers, you know. So
they created this new position for the Minister of Loneliness
because they realized even then, prior to twenty twenty that
a significant part of their population was self identifying as
being lonely and that's what's having a significant impact on
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their health. Therefore, they created this position in order to
do the research about ways of helping to create people
in communities because they have found that that feeling of loneliness,
that feeling of being utterly utterly by yourself, is worse
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to your health than smoking a pack of cigarettes a day.
And I encourage you guys to do the research, to
look into this study that I'm talking to you about,
the study with the babies, as well as what was
done in the UK with the Minister of Lonelies, and
then to look at what has happened through the COVID era.
When the COVID debacle started, I warned people of what
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we now know to be the deaths of the spear,
because I said, when you put people in isolation, when
you tell a grandmother that she can no longer be
around her grandchildren, when you tell a husband that he
can now long be around his wife, when you isolate
children away from their playmates, it creates a significant impact
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of disease and malaise.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
Well, we've certainly seen that since COVID nineteen. So on
another topic, I understand that you're creating a sanctuary for
homeless female vets and their children. Do you want to
tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 4 (48:54):
Well, in alignment with the understanding that community is so important,
I am one of the directors that it takes a
village ministry and our mission is to create natural healing
communities across the globe, and so we encourage people to
self identify and say, you know what, I want to
create a community in my local area. And so this
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is an extension of our mission. What we have come
to realize is that there's a significant number of our
female veterans that have children that unfortunately have gotten into
the situation of being homeless or having that insecurity with
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regards to housing. What we are looking to do is
to create a sanctuary that will help our veterans to
heal not only from things like PTSD and unfortunately a
lot of our female veterans are also dealing with sexual trauma,
but more importantly, to help them to not pass on
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the detriment aspects of that trauma to their children. We're
going to be doing in this sanctuary. It is actually
going to be a twelve month vocational residency program that
is going to help these women to come together to
support each other as women and as mothers and to learn, sorry,
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learn a vocational skill, to become more savvy with regards
to entrepreneurship, financial management, and to become more self sufficient.
So at the end of that twelve month period they
able to go off on their own and to become
and maintain their self sufficiency.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
I understand it's a nonprofit.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
Is that correct?
Speaker 4 (50:40):
Yes, it takes a village ministry as a nonprofit organization,
and the sanctuary is going to be the Roots and
Resilience Sanctuary.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
Well, on another note, are your services covered by in
Canada the government or in the US private insurance?
Speaker 4 (50:57):
No? No, not at all, not at all.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
So do you have a sliding scale for people?
Speaker 4 (51:02):
What do you Yes, we actually have a very innovative
membership program because again we want to emphasize community. And
what I say to people is that Michelle does not
have all the answers. In fact, you are very intelligent
and capable. I have learned so much from the people
that I've worked with, and so we have various levels
(51:23):
of membership that allows people to interact with that's at
a very minimal price point. Who's us say it again?
Speaker 3 (51:33):
I said, who is us?
Speaker 4 (51:34):
Our team? Yeah, so there are lots of people in
our team. So we have our foundational healthcare providers such
as doctor Tom Lewis and myself. We also have other providers,
and then we have a homeopath, actually we have two homeopaths.
We have someone who specializes in the essential oils, someone
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who specializes in body mastery, you know, posture alignment and
those types of things. And we also have what we
refer to as health stewards what other people know as
health coaches, but we take it one step further because
one of their things, one of their missions is to
empower people to have mastery of this information and to
be able to share it in their communities and with
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their loved ones.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
So let's move on. I would be remiss if I
didn't ask you, doctor Gamble, what is your mission?
Speaker 4 (52:26):
My mission is to help people to actualize love, living
optimally with vitality and elation. To create the relationships within yourself,
within your own person, whether it be the relationship between
your hormonal system and your digestive system and your autonomic system.
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And to create the relationships in your community that help
you to live optimally with vitality and elation.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
When did when did we lose relationships?
Speaker 3 (53:01):
When did we lose community? You know, it's been a while.
Speaker 4 (53:05):
Yeah, it's been a while, and it's very sad to
see our nation in this particular passage of time where
we are seeing our neighbors as our enemies. And unfortunately,
I guess it's just a part of our development that
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we have to go through these passages of darkness. And
that's why I encourage people to be the light, to
be the person in your community that reaches out. You know,
I recently moved to the country, and for the first
time in my life, I made it my mission to
go out and meet all my neighbors. I have never
before made any attempt to interact with my neighbors. But
(53:51):
I came here and I said, you know what, I've
got to do something differently. I've got to have that
recognition that I cannot be by myself. We were not
designed to be an island, we were not designed to
be in isolation. And so I said, in order for
me to be able to preach this message of community,
I have to live it. I can't tell all the
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people who go out there and be part of community
and I'm not. And so I did that and it
was the best thing ever. Now I can walk out
my door and I can literally say hi to everybody
that I beat, and I have this sense of peace
knowing that I'm not alone, knowing that if anything happens,
I can run next door and there'll be someone there
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that I know and that I know will help me.
Speaker 3 (54:38):
No, that's a wonderful thing.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
Unfortunately we are out of time, Doctor Gamble, thank you
so much for coming on the show.
Speaker 4 (54:44):
Thank you for having me here as a guest.
Speaker 2 (54:48):
Our guest is our has been doctor Michelle Gamble, the
author of Mommy, Birthing the Goddess for our Children's sake
and creating a happier.
Speaker 3 (54:55):
Healthier you.
Speaker 2 (54:57):
To find out more about doctor Gamble where you can
find her books she has to offer, visit her website,
The Holistic Healingdoctor dot com. This has been Mission Evolution
with Guildoweeka. For more information or to enjoy past archived episodes,
visit www dot Mission evolution dot org. But please be
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