June 18, 2025 • 55 mins
Killing the Good Guys: GMOs and Human Disease
Jeffery M. Smith is the founder and executive director of IRT, the author of “Seeds of Deception,” and award-winning filmmaker. As a global thought-leader on the health dangers of genetically modified organisms (GMOs) for over 27 years, Jeffrey has authored 2 bestsellers, directed 5 documentaries, delivered 2,000 lectures and interviews in 45 countries, trained 1,500 speakers, and organized more than 10,000 grassroots advocates. Jeffrey has counseled world leaders on six continents, and his meticulous research presented at medical conferences inspired thousands to prescribe non-GMO and organic diets.
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Jeffery M. Smith is the founder and executive director of IRT, the author of “Seeds of Deception,” and award-winning filmmaker. As a global thought-leader on the health dangers of genetically modified organisms (GMOs) for over 27 years, Jeffrey has authored 2 bestsellers, directed 5 documentaries, delivered 2,000 lectures and interviews in 45 countries, trained 1,500 speakers, and organized more than 10,000 grassroots advocates. Jeffrey has counseled world leaders on six continents, and his meticulous research presented at medical conferences inspired thousands to prescribe non-GMO and organic diets.
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Speaker 1 (00:51):
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Speaker 2 (01:20):
Genetically modified foods are a source of great controversy. There's
strong opposition to them from some, but others are unconcerned.
What are the facts? Do GMOs and glyphasate have a
secret health risk? If so, what specific risks are involved
and how can they remain on the market. Mission Evolution
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Radio TV show is coming to you around the world
on the excellent broadcast network XBN dot net. With this
this hour to take a closer look at GMOs and
glyfasate is Jeffrey M. Smith. Jeffrey is the founder and
executive director of IRT, the author of Seeds of Deception,
and award winning filmmaker. As a global thought leader on
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the health dangers of genetically modified organisms for over twenty
seven years, he's authored two best sellers, directed five documentaries,
delivered two thousand lectures and interviews in forty five countries,
trained one five hundred speakers, and organized more than ten
thousand grassroots advocates. Jeffrey has counseled world leaders on six continents,
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and his meticulous research presented at medical conferences inspired thousands
to prescribe non GMO and organic diets his website Responsible
technology dot org. Jeffrey, thank you for joining us on
Mission Evolution.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
So great to be here. Gilda, thank you, thank.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
You for coming in. So how'd you first become interested
in GMO and glycysate.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Well, in nineteen ninety six I went to a lecture
biogenetic engineer, and he actually is kind of a whistleblower
in that he was doing research on DNA for cancer
and then Monsanto decided that they wanted to introduce GMOs
into the food supply, and so he announced in his
lecture that there was no way that Monsanto or any
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company or individual could genetically engineer the DNA and change
it in a way that was predictable and safe. And
so the changes that they were making by creating round
up ready soy for example, soy crops designed to be
sprayed with the company's round up and not die that
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was going to be put into the food supply and
exposed to virtually everyone in the country and many people
in the world. Moreover, once you release genetically engineered organisms
into the environment, you can't recall them because they can
self propagate. So I was kind of shocked at this
news that I had never heard of at the time.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, very shocking. So I saw at one point a
young girl that was kind of taking on Montsotto about
about the not labeling, and she said, you know, I'm
not telling you can or cant or whatever else. She's
just a young girl. She's I just want to know
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what's in my food. And the argument went round and
round and round and round. Do you know if they
ever got to where they had to at least label it.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Well, there's about sixty five countries that require labeling of
some sort, but the United States labeling laws that were
produced by the US by actually the USDA are as
if written by the biotic industry. There are so many
loopholes and so many ways that a genetically engineered substance
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can avoid being labeled. And they tried to say, well,
you can put a QR code on, so make it hidden.
Or put a toll free number under some circumstances, or
instead of calling it GMO, we'll call it bioengineered. So
right now, if you see a product that says made
with io engineered ingredients, that means GMO, and it's designed
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to confuse because people know, the biotech industry knows, the
US government knows that people don't want to eat GMOs,
and for good reason as well. Here today there are
many many diseases associated with the consumption of GMOs and
the roundup herbicide or glyphosate toxin that is poured onto
many of these genetically engineered crops.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
So you mentioned that once you plant them and they
start growing, they continue to propagate, do they start to distort,
Does the DNA stay that, stay modified, or do they
start to create their own nightmare.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
It's an excellent question, and it turns out there was
a report done several years ago about the changes in
the DNA and its expression after GMOs were introduced, and
absolutely they do change. They're not stable. Now, it's not
necessarily every single GMO will change, but over time, there's
a lot of shifts that happen. You see, we don't
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understand yet the language of the DNA and how it works,
and yet we're acting as if we do so. Sometimes
you'll release a genetically engineered corn, for example, that's engineered
to produce its own toxic insecticide to kill insects, and
it produces a certain amount of that toxin. I've talked
to some friends who did some research in one field.
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There was dramatically different levels of that toxin produced, at
some cases levels that would be extremely dangerous in my
opinion for human consumption or exposure, although I think that
that toxin is dangerous at any level. And in fact,
many of the scientists who were advising the Environmental Protection
Agency said no, no, this could be a toxin or
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an allergen, And the EPA said, we're not paying attention
to you. We're allowing it on the market and calling
this corn a registered insecticide.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
So why were this must be neutral and kind of
policing stuff? Quite did they ignore the clear evidence.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
It turns out that many of the regulatory agencies are captured.
I'll give you an example. The White House told the FDA,
USDA and EPA back in the nineties early nineties promote GMOs,
get them on the market, use existing laws that were
not designed for GMOs. We don't want to give it
to Congress to create new laws.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
So the FDA.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Brought in Monsanto's former attorney, Michael Taylor, who was in
charge of policy at the FDA, and his policy claimed
that there was no difference between GMOs and non GMOs,
therefore no testing or labeling was necessary. He then became
Monsanto's vice president. Documents made public from a lawsuit years
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later show that it was actually a lie that in fact,
not only was the.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
FDA aware of the.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Difference between GMOs and non GMOs, the consensus among the
scientists tasked with recommending policy said that GMOs could create allergens, toxins,
new diseases, and nutritional problems, and had urged their superiors
to require long term testing human toxicological testing, and all
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of that was ignored. Similarly, at the EPA, documents made
public from a lawsuits showed that the Monsanto company had
as if their own people working for them in the
EPA getting things approved over the objections of others. So
we have seen the incredible influence of corporations over regulatory
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agencies in GMOs and round it.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
So it sounds like the FDA. What they police is
the Food and Drug Administration's company's bottom line.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
You know, they call their clients the companies that are
asking for approval, rather than their clients as the American people.
And I've done some analysis or investigations into the FDA.
There's whistle blowers there that described the problems their same
as the EPA. In fact, when Monsanta wanted to approve
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its bovine growth hormone, a drug injected into cows to
increase milk supply, Michael Taylor, their former lawyer, was in charge.
Then Susan Setchen, who had done research for Monsanto on
bovine growth hormone, took up the role of overseeing the
review at the FDA. Then Margaret Miller, who had done
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research for Monsanto, became in charge of a department that
evaluated her research. And so it was basically a captive
situation and a revolving door. Many of the people in
the regulatory agencies will move back and forth between the
companies that they're supposedly regulating, and we sell that with
Monsanto as well.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
So let's back up just a little bit, would you
for our audience, would you know, I think everybody assumes
they know what GMOs are, but what are they exactly?
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Genetically modified organisms are ways in which we take the
DNA and make changes artificially. We can put in genes
from foreign organisms, like they did with round up pretty crops,
taking genes from bacteria to make the crops not die
when sprayed with roundup, or you can go in with
gene editing tools and move things around. Now, they claimed
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for years that it was safe and predictable, when in
fact the most common result of genetic engineering is surprise
side effects. It can create massive collateral damage in the
DNA which could increase the levels of existing allergens and toxins,
or create even new ones that have never before existed
in those plants. And so the situation is now there's
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a quote new form of genetic engineering called gene editing
like crisper, and they claim that it's They're saying, oh,
this is much better than the old version, and yet
it is full of problems. In fact, the journal Nature
described it as chromosomal mayhem. And because they've convinced governments,
the biotic industry has convinced governments that it is safe
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and predictable and even natural, which it isn't. Governments all
over the world are saying, fine, gene edit whatever you want,
put it in the food supply, put it in nature,
change the microbiome, take control. They've given the keys to
the kingdoms to anyone with even two thousand dollars to
buy their own crisper kit. In fact, you don't even
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need that. You can just go to a high school
classroom in many places and be assigned to change the
DNA of organisms that could be released to change the
nature of nature.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Well, it's not nice to fool Mother Nature, right? So
is there also impact on the nutritional value of these
foods that have been altered?
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Very much?
Speaker 4 (11:55):
So, there's been comparisons between, for example, genetically engineered corn
and natural corn. I've seen the side by side, and
there's a dramatic reduction in the nutritional value.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
There's also an increase.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
In some of the toxins in there as well. The
genetically engineered corn of one type has a gene that
was turned on that produces a known allergen called gamazine.
There's another genetically engineered corn that has higher levels of
putresine and cadaverine. These are I know, I hate the names.
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Actually I love those names, but they really convey what
it is that they do. They create the rotting odor
of the foul out of rotting dead bodies, and they
also are linked to allergens and cancer. So there's a
lot of changes, and yet the biotic industry is not
required to do an evaluation of all those changes. Remember
it was Monsanto's former attorney who said no testing or
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labeling is necessary. So the basic studies to see well,
what's actually different in the two aren't done by the companies.
They're often done independent, and there's not a lot of them.
But when they do do the independent research, when they
can get the money and the grants, they discover significant
differences that can be quite dangerous.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Significant differences in the outcome that the independence come up
with versus the ones that are working.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
For, not only in the composition but also in its
effect on laboratory animals. So Monsante will run a ninety
day study and stop it there and say, oh, it's
all good, and oh, this change here, it's not related
to the biology. This change here is not related to
the glypha state of the GMO, And they say it
without any scientific justification. But scientists that have evaluated and say, oh,
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wait a minute, this shows real signs of toxicity, and
those that have done longer studies have shown the growth
of tumors, damage to the kidney and liver, multiple massive
tumors that were twenty five percent the body weight, early death,
organ damage, and when they come out with their information,
they're attacked by a kind of an echo chamber of
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front groups and individuals who are given a certain set
of talking points that we see all over the world
to try and discredit any individual organization that might say
that GMOs are dangerous and unhealthy.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Well, it's time for us to take a short break,
Jeffrey and I will return shortly. Please don't go away.
This is Mission Evolution www dot Mission evolution dot org
is our food making us sick with this this hour
discussing GMOs and Glyphysate is the author of Seeds of Deception.
Jeffrey M. Smith his website Responsible Technology dot org. Jeffrey,
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you did considerable research I understand on the GMOs and glyphasates.
Where did you h what did your research consist of,
and where did you get the information to do it?
Speaker 4 (14:52):
I interviewed dozens of scientists and doctors around the world
and Oftentimes these are scientists that have disc governed problems
but have been fired, stripped of responsibilities for stylets censured.
My book Seeds of Deception opens with a story of
doctor r. Podpusti, who discovered that the process of genetic
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engineering creates massive damage in the rats that were fed
the GMOs, and that it was the process of GMOs,
not a particular specific change that he was doing in
his potatoes. Now, he was working with a grant from
the UK government to come up with protocols for how
to test GMOs that were going to be implemented EU wide.
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But when he discovered his problems, we hear that a
phone call from Monsanto went to Clinton, that went to
Tony Blair, that went to the institute where he was working,
and he was fired the next day, basically after thirty
five years, and he was told not to talk about
He was silenced with threats of a lawsuit. And I
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went into the whole detail in the first check of
how the political influence was designed to cover up what
he had discovered that may be unfolding inside all of
our bodies. And so some of the research was from
these type of whistleblowers or scientists that had discovered information,
and I also did some of my own interviews with
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people who have shifted from GMOs to non GMOs or
non GMOs to GMOs. We surveyed two hundred and fifty
six people who reported getting better from twenty eight different
conditions at about one hundred and fifty lectures around the country.
I asked for show of hands in terms of how
many people notice getting better when they switched to non GMO,
what they got better from. So I've been interviewing people,
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and I did a film with Amy Hart called Secret
Ingredients where we look at about a dozen individuals who
got dramatically better when they switched to organic food. Organic
because that eliminates both GMOs and the glycos sate herbicide,
and it wasn't just one offs that the doctors in
the film say, this is actually typical of the patients
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that we see every day who we put on an
organic diet. And the scientists in the film say, this
is why we have little animations of the different body
systems and say glyphysate does this, and glycasate does this,
and GMO does this. So I've had the honor of
being able to collect all this information for many scientists
who are focused in their particular specialty. And I've had
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a chance to put it together in a couple of
books and also some movies and talks and training programs,
et cetera. And it's very very strong evidence.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Now I understand, and we of course can't put them
up here, but I understand. You have some charts that
relate the GMOs to and glyphysates to human health. Where
did you get the information for those charts and what
did they show?
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Doctor Nancy Swanson and doctor Stephanie Cenna were primary researchers,
and they went and collected public data CDC data, et cetera,
hospital admissions, death rates, et cetera, from specific diseases, and
they took USDA Department of Agriculture statistics in terms of
how much genetically engineered corn and soy are planted each year,
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how much glyphosate based herbicides are sprayed on those each year,
and they had a curve of the amount of GMOs
and the amount of glyphysate and then they put on
the same chart the specific rise of these diseases, and
the correlations are breathtaking. Autism is nearly a perfect correlation.
Point nine nine seventy five compared to a one, which
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would have been perfect. There's diabetes, obesity, allergies, there's hypertension,
deaths from hypertension, deaths from Alzheimer's, deaths from senile dementia,
all sorts of cancers. There's a tremendous body of evidence
in the correlation that these things are moving in parallel. Now, correlation,
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as you know, doesn't prove causation, but we also have
the evidence of two hundred and fifty six people who
got better from many of these diseases when they switched
to organic We also have the animal feeding studies that
show that the rats and mice that were force fed
GMOs in round up suffered from these same set of
diseases or their precursors. We even have the plausible pathways
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the biochemistry, saying well, what does for example, glyphosate do
in the system. Glyphosate, when you take it in the system,
it shuts down the production of a precursor to serotonin,
which is a precursor to melatonin, which help us go
to sleep. So the insomnia and sleep disorders rose in
parallel with the amount of glyphosate in the US food supply.
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When people get off of the GMOs and glyphysate, they
get better from insomnia. So we have a very specific example.
The number one most common reported resis in terms of
getting better when switching to organic was digestive disorders. Eighty
five point two percent of the more than three thousand
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people we surveyed said they got better, and most of
it was significantly better from digestive disorders. So I published
a peer reviewed study in the International Journal of Human
Nutrition and Functional Medicine which gave the results of the
survey and then did a deep dive showing all the
ways that GMOs and glyphisate and the insect decide that's
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in the corn could be contributing to deterioration of the
of the digestive health in the United States and around
the world.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
So we haven't talked about glyphisate really specifically. What is it.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Glyphasate was originally patented as a descaler to clean inside
boilers and.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Pipes in industry.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Now it's a It grabs onto minerals. It's a key lader,
and we normally think of key lators as oh, let's
get rid of the heavy metals. This grabs onto all
the metals and that's why it was a descaler because
it would clean off the metal deposits, and when they
put the effluence into the ground, it would kill all
of the weeds and all actually anything living. And so
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Monsanto then patented it as an herbicide, and it's part
of round up herbicide, most of them, but not all
of the round up now and it's also been declared
by the World Health Organization as a probable human carcinogen.
But it's also linked to many many other disorders, and
it was the biotic industry in particular. Monsanto was very
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convincing to the administration that oh, it's completely safe, there's
no toxicity. Well, it turns out in the lawsuits that
were now charging carconogicity or cancer to Monsanto and Bear
company that bought Monsanto, they were forced to show all
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of these documents, and that the documents about how they
tested glyphastate and declared that it was safe were, according
to the scientists and the lawyers that I spoke to,
based on fraud. I'll give you an example. When Monsanto
was they had to see how much of the roundup
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was absorbed into human skin. So they took human skin
from a cadaver and put round up and about ten
percent went in, which was over three times the allowable level.
So they had an idea. They took new human skin
from a cadaver and they cooked it in an oven,
got it really tough, but that wasn't good enough. Then
they froze it and they took that cooked frozen human skin,
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applied round up and hardly any got absorbed. They reported
that level to the EPA without telling them that they
had cooked and frozen human skin. They had hired an
expert at Carconogicity to see if their round up or
glyphistate caused cancer, thinking he would clear it. He said,
oh no, there's showing that there's genotoxicity here. In fact,
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it could be even more with the whole formulation. So
they fired that guy. They said we're not going to
use them anymore. And according to the court documents, they
ghost wrote their own study a review and got people
scientists to sign the name that came.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Up with the opposite conclusion.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Their early studies were done by a company that was
so full of fraud that the people went to jail,
including one of Monstanto's executives that went from Monsanto into
this testing company and then back to Monsanto and then
to jail because of the fraud that was used on
the animal feeding studies that got these things approved. I
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can go on and have gone on for hours to
show how they rig their research, cover up the information,
but also attack or fire scientists that have discovered it.
They've attacked me. They've done all sorts of things, and
it's standard practice now in order to keep profits flowing.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
So you brought up another interesting thing. A lot of
our cattle, a lot of our food is I've heard
you aren't what you eat, You are what you eat. Eight. Okay,
what's happening to the livestock that's first being fed this
treated gmo corn and soy and then it go ends
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up on our table? What goes on there?
Speaker 4 (24:24):
The majority of feed fed to cattle and other livestock
in the United States is the round up ready soy corn, cottonseed, canola,
sugar beets, and alfalfa. Those are the six round up
pretty crops. Now, first of all, when you spray round
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up on these crops, normally glyphosate should kill, but when
it's genetically engineered, it doesn't die. The glypha sate gets
absorbed into the crops and then stored in the grain.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Or food portion.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
So if we eat these products soy, corn, et cetera,
then we can't wash it off. It's inside. The animals
eat this. Now it turns out the crops themselves have
very much lower levels of minerals and nutrition. The glyphosate,
as you remember, is a key lator, and it grabs
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onto the minerals. They may be in there, but they're
not usable. They're being hugged by this molecule and they're
not going to be used by the system. So we
have massive mineral deficient crops. But there's also residues of
the glyphis sate in these foods high levels. The animals
eat them, and it then grabs onto additional minerals and
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causes leaky god and causes all these other things. But
in terms of minerals, it makes them less available. And
the minerals are important for the immune system, they're important
for cognition. In fact, they're like the keys that turn
on all the motors of all these biochemical pathways. And
when you don't have these minerals, it's like the workers
are on strike. So we've had sive problems with the
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livestock in terms of fertility and health, et cetera. Then
they become mineral deficient. So now we as humans we
eat the animals that are mineral deficient and sick. We
eat the GMOs that are mental deficient and have glyphosate residues,
which then draw more minerals out of us. And that's
just the minerals. But if we look just at the minerals,
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they're related to all these different diseases. Similarly, I threw
in a word called leaky gut, or a phrase where
the gaps between the cells and our guts can open up.
You can see it on a microscope. Add a little glyphosate,
they separate. There's a study by a Harvard professor that
says all disease is linked to leaki gut. In our gut,
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there's also the microbiome, the bacteria that turn out to
be like a second organ. It helps us digest, it
helps produce materials for us, it helps our immune system.
There's a connection to our feelings and cognition. It turns
out that glyphosate is a patented antibiotic. It kills the
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bacteria in our gut, but it kills preferentially the beneficial bacteria,
leaving the nasty stuff like E. Colion, salmonella to thrive,
and so the changes in the human gut bacteria according
to one design, one model research, and I interviewed the
scientists that helped design it. They can explain dozens of
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diseases that are on the rise in the US population,
rising in parallel with the increased use of glyphosate. So
we have leaki gut, we have microbiome, we have mineral deficiencies.
These are foundational. Just these alone can cause massive numbers
of people experiencing a variety of diseases. But it doesn't
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stop there. I can continue to talk about what this
chemical does and how my friend from MIT realized that
this is probably driving the autism epidemic. Because it's hand
in glove.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
We're going to have to pick up on that interesting
information on the other side. If you at another station break,
Jeffrey and I will be right back to continue our discussion.
Please stay right there. This is Mission Evolution, Mission Evolution
dot org. It is everywhere. This is Mission Evolution, Mission
Evolution dot Org with us discussing the health risks of
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GMOs and glyphysate. As Jeffrey IM Smith his website Responsible
Technology dot org. So Jeffrey is, as we've been talking,
I have another thought, if you will. So you have
gmo crops corn safe for instance, planet in rows, and
across the road you have an organic farmer. What happens?
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Unfortunately, nature doesn't stay in one place. Things are shared.
So corn is a good example. Because corn pollen can
fly through the air. It typically can go It can
be alive and survive for two to three hours, in
some cases twenty four hours. Imagine how far that could
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travel and land on other corn plants that maybe at
the time when it can be pollinated. A friend of mine,
who was an expert at air pollution, calculated that in
Texas where he lived, that theoretically pollen could travel five
hundred miles and still be viable within the twenty four
hour period. You can find blue and corn is pollinated
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per kernel on those little tassels. So some people will
find little blue kernels in corn and there's no blue
corn anywhere within miles, but some pollen had flown, So
you end up basically contaminating.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Different gene pools.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
When I worked at a GMO detection laboratory in nineteen
ninety nine and two thousand, even before I got there,
they looked at corn seed that was supposedly non GMO,
and there was up to one percent contamination at that time.
Contamination will grow over time. Now, how do you eradicate it? Well,
at that particular laboratory where I was vice president of
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marketing communications, we discovered an illegal variety of corn in
craft taco shells called starlink corn that the EPA advisor
said is a probable human allergen, and it caused a
billion dollar problem. Three hundred and fifteen products were subject
to recall. All export markets to corn in the United
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States closed their doors.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
It was a big deal.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Now they spent all this time trying to get starlink
out of the food supply. Originally they found it in
eighty percent of the samples. After years, it was still
in the food supply a much smaller percentage. But it
can never be eradicated because you can't identify it from
a distance. You can't pick it out. So even if
something is in a field trial like some genetically engineered
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bent grass and oregon, two decades later, it's still there.
They can't eradicate it. They didn't have a proper plan,
so we are now changing the nature of nature. It
becomes a self propagating biological time bomb where we don't
know its qualities, and that has become exacerbated because of
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gene editing, where now they're saying, gene edit anything you want,
put it in, put it in the woods, put it
in the ground, grow it, put it in the food supply.
I'm sure it's fine. So we're in a situation, Grilda,
where we inherited the products of the billions of years
of evolution nature, but what we may be giving to
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future generations is a combination of natural and man made.
And the man made, remember, has surprised side effects and
cannot be recalled.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
That's terrifying. What's the shelf life, if you will, Once
you've put it on the ground of glave estate.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
Well, there's a It degrades depending on the enzymes and
the soil, the biological material, how much clay pH It
could go many many months in terms of how long
it survives. But the longest reported half life, how long
it took to actually just reduce to have was over
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twenty years, like twenty one years, I think. And so
this says that under certain conditions it'll just be around.
Now it can be bound up like remember it's a chylator.
It can be bound up with something in the soil
and you add like a fertilizer or some phosphate, and
all of a sudden it breaks open and now it's
active again. And because it reduces the use of minerals,
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and minerals are important for the immune system. My friend,
Professor Meredith doctor Don Huber, who was an expert at
Life Estate, even did contract work from Monsanto. He says
that the use of roundup, widespread in the United States,
has caused an emergence of over sixty plant diseases, some
that have cost billions of dollars to agriculture, and that
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people are putting it together that it's the glyphosate that's
being spread that's causing the damage, and so that's just
a little bit of the ecosystem damage. It also damages
the microbiome and the soil among other things.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
So does it get into our water supply.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Yes, and it affects the marine life. Now it's not
just the glyphosate, but also the bt toxin which is
created in the corn. That's that insecticide that was washed
into rivers and found that it damaged the cattisfly, which
I have never heard of when I read it, but
it's a foundational component of the marine ecosystem. The glyphosate
can go into the water and it can cause problems
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with the algae bloom, et cetera. In fact, when you
use glyphystate, because it kills the biology in the soil,
the soil becomes more compact, so it doesn't absorb the water,
so the water just flows off into the river or
causes flooding. A friend of mine sent pictures of a
GMO round up brady cornfield on one side and a
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natural cornfield on the other after a rain. The one
that was natural had no water on it because it
all got absorbed. The one that was in the GMO
had puddles. So it goes into the water supply, it
can promote flooding because it washes off, and then it
can damage the entire natural cycle within the water supply
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as well, and it could possibly create these algae blooms.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Well, what about our beneficial bugs like pollinators, bees and such.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Glifa sate turns out to be very toxic to honeybees.
They lose their direction, their ability to come back to
the hive, and it also kills the beneficial bacteria in
their gut, the lack of bacillus, for example, that they
need in order to digest. So sometimes there's plenty of
food there, but they starve to death because they're not digetic. Now,
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there was a company that was identifying the problems between
bees and glyphosate and was coming up with evidence to
show that glyphosate was damaging and the company was called Biologics,
and they were purchased by Monsanto and no longer came
up with any information showing that Monsanto's glyphosate products were
damaging bees. But there is evidence that shows a dramatic
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drop in the b population in part because of glyphosate
and in part because of a something called neonicotinoide nicotinoid
insecticides that are put on the corn seeds and on
the seeds of others, often on GMO seeds to act
as a insecticide in the soil. So between those two
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were causing like a kind of a huge genocide among
the bee population. And these are chemical based genocide.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
The genocide of the bees is going to be genocide
of the humans if keeps up, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
It's you know, there's the bees and the pollinators are
essential for our current food supply. I don't know what
we would do without them. I'm hoping we don't have
to find out.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah, exactly, exactly. So if these products are so dangerous,
why can't you know? Okay, So the Montsato has has
you know, all these people in their pocket right or
in you know, threatened with lawsuit and everything else. But
what's happening are you starting to have? You know, is
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somebody starting to raise up the general populace and say, hey,
quit messing with our environment, messing with our food.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
You know, that was my plan back in nineteen ninety six.
When I heard about it, I decided, okay, so what
can I do. I'm not a scientist. I can't do
the scientific research to prove it. And if I could,
they have We've seen already that you can have strong
evidence over here, and then sometimes the companies will equal
and op opposite research with a different finding that you
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later find out was rigged to create that outcome. And
I have exposed that in my work. So science was
not on the table, and I could try a lawsuit,
but you know there was lawsuits that didn't go very well,
and we found out that the that the judge used
to work for Monsanto. I can go into the details,
but we don't have to do that. I could try legislation,
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but the baotic industry had locked down the White House
and the regulatory agencies. A former FDA official said, the
regulatory agencies has done everything that Big agg has asked
them to do and told.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Them to do.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
So I'm thinking, okay, no, I can't they have there.
They've convinced farmers, They've convinced media, they've convinced academia, they've
convinced the government. The four main focus areas of their
marketing and hype campaign. So I realized that their their
achilles heel is consumers. We need to get the consumers
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aware of the health dangers. So in order for me
to say that GMOs are not safe, why are they
going to listen to me? So I had to come
up with the very specific stories of the scientists that
actually discovered the problems and were fired or censured or
their whole campaign was designed to discredit them. And I
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had to point out what the scientists working at the
FDA actually said as opposed to the political appointees, and
so I had to prove the third party evidence. I
had to show the devious ways that Monsanto and others
were attacking scientists. And then I had to explain what
the health dangers are and focus it on the most
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receptive demographics, because as soon as among the population, if
even a small percentage of people stopped eating GMOs because
they offered no advantage as a marketing agent, they just
were there in the food supply. No one was looking
for an herbicide laden product or a corn that produces insecticide,
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it would become a marketing liability. Now, Monsanto had had
a consultant who announced in a January nineteen ninety nine
conference how they had worked with the company years earlier,
asking what their ideal future was, And their ideal future
in fifteen to twenty years was to genetically engineer one
hundred percent of all commercial seeds and patent them, and
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the consultant work backwards from that goal to create the
strategy and tactics to achieve it. So they were planning
to genetically engineer the food supply. Another report was at
that same conference in January nineteen ninety nine predicted a
ninety five percent takeover of all commercial seeds, but genetic
engineering within.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
As little as five years.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
By educating consumers, we and others were able to derail
that schedule. And now we were trying to get five
percent of US shoppers to consciously avoid GMO. Fifty one
percent of US shoppers believe the GMOs are unsafe. Now
forty eight percent worldwide, and that was several years ago.
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So the way the biotic industry has responded is they've
gone stealth. They're saying gene editing is safe, so we
don't have to tell anyone, the government or consumers if
we're genetically engineering these products, so there can be no
choice in the supermarket.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
That's terrifying, quite frankly. And you know, from what you've said,
and we'll pick up this on the other side of
a station break, but from what you've said, can we
even you know, we say go organic, you know, but
if there's this pollution from field to field as far
as five hundred miles, is even organic unaffected at this point?
Speaker 4 (40:49):
Great question. So we take that up on the other
side with specific recommendations what people can.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Do well, you can start. Now we take it out on.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
The good sounds good so there's mice that were fed
round the pretty soy for eight months.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
They had damage to.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
Their testicles, their pancreas, I believe, their hearts. They then
a group was put on non gm SOI and things
started to repair. So there's a physiological repair mechanism. We
have three and fifty six people who reported getting better
from twenty eight different conditions and diseases when they switched
to organic. So we do know that much of the damage,
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not all of it is reversible. The body can repair.
Now there will be some contamination. The amount we have
on our site at Responsible technology dot org. We have
a glyphosate database that shows which how much glyphasate is
in how much food, which types of food.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
It's not just it's that magic moment. We will pick
up with this information on the other side of a
station break. Please stay with us as Jeffrey and I
continue our discussion. This is Mission Evolution Www. Mission Evolution
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Mission Evolution dot org. We're continuing our discussion with Jeffrey M.
Smith his website Responsible technology dot org. Jeffrey, we were
talking about how to avoid GMOs and you were talking
about how that the body bodies, animals and people have
a repair mechanism. Would you mind continuing?
Speaker 4 (42:29):
Sure, So there's two things to avoid, GMOs and glyphosate
based herbicides. I mean, you really want to avoid all
of the chemical nasties, so eating organic doesn't allow those,
and that I would say is the main focus is
to eat organic, which doesn't allow GMOs, glyphasate.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
And other things.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
Now, if you can eat organic, then you want to
avoid the products that are sprayed with a lot of
round up and avoid the products that contain GMOs. Now
let's start with the roundup where the glyph sate based herbicides.
It's not all just round up.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Now.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
In two thousand and six or so, there was reports
on Monsanto's website to famed It farmers saying you can
dry down your grain by spraying glycasate a round up
on your products three to five days before harvest. Wheat farmers,
oat farmers lagoons like lentils and mungies and whatnot. They'd
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spray glycasate based herbicides on their field just before harvest. Now,
you know it's gonna kill those products eventually, but it
does it slowly. It first dries it down, but it
also forces ripening. So when areas in the North and Canada,
when it's when they want to get right quickly, they'll
kill it and there's all the energy goes like save
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the kids. So they send all the energy in the
in the crops to the grain. The grain ripens and
everything dries down so there's less mold. When it's when
it's actually process and they've killed the weeds for next year,
it's called staging. And so if you look at our
database at Responsible Technology dot org and you look at
what has a large amount of glyphosate in it, you're
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gonna find oats and mung beans and wheat and lentils
and things that are not GMO. None of those are
genetically engineered in this country. You'll also find soy and corn,
and then there's cottonseed oil and canola oil, but they
may not have much in it because the oils don't
carry it as much. But you'll have to find what
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you eat often that has all this high level of glyphisate,
and then those should definitely be organic. So like I
traveled almost NonStop, and I used to have oatmeal and
the hotels for breakfast, and I realize oatmeal is just
floats in glyphisaate, so avoid the roundup and the oa
glyphisate and then avoiding the GMOs. Also on our site,
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we name them all and I'll do them quickly. So
there's just a dozen soy corn, cotton, caola, sugar beets, alfalfa, zucchini,
yellow squash, potatoes, apples, there's a pink papaya. Now there's
also little ones that are starting to show up, this
purple purple tomato that's coming out of northern California. There's
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there was salmon for a while, but it looks like
that has stopped because the company went belly up. And
then there's genetically engineered wheat in Argentina and some eggplant
in Bangladesh, but mostly those are the ones in the
United States.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
So people you know complain, you know rightly, so that
organic is so much more expensive than conventional with all
the goodies and not so goodies in it. But what
about the nutritional factor. If the food that's been treated
and genetically modified has lower food value and things in
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there that block the things we very need, how much
of a bargain is it?
Speaker 3 (46:05):
I love your question.
Speaker 4 (46:06):
Nutrient density is generally higher with organic, and regenerative is
even higher. Regenerative is when they focus on creating more
biologics and health and the soil, which then create more
nutrient density in the plant. So if you eat a
cucumber and it's been commercially raised, if it's not GMO,
just commercially raised, and they spray a bunch of things
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so the cucumber doesn't have to fight against any diseases
or whatnot, So it's vital chemical levels are down, and
it's nutrient levels are down, and it's whatnot. And then
you take another cucumber or whatever it is. You may
need three cucumbers over here to have the nutrient value
of the organic, and even less for more of the
over here for the regenerative. So I would like to
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suggest strongly the following recommendations. First of all, put some
of your medical budget, your health budget, into your food.
I've talked to so many people, and then the film
Secret Ingredients that I did with Amy Hart, many of
the families that we interviewed say, we don't go to
the doctor anymore. We just don't get sick. Many people's
health bills go down by a lot, less by a
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lot more than what they're spending for the extra organic food.
Put some of your philanthropy dollars into that, because now
you're now contributing to a healthier world and healthier farmers,
so big make a bigger budget. At the same time,
create a spreadsheet and on the left side all of
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your symptoms of how well you slept, your energy level,
and your mood, and at the top of each column
what percentage of organic you ate that day, and then
one to ten all of the symptoms.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
Energy level, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (47:49):
I say this because I was not aware of how
many different diseases and disorders are connected with GMOs and
roundup until I started asking audiences thirteen years ago. I
was like, how many people noticed? I was a little hesitant.
All these hands went up. I said, oh really, what
did you notice? Oh you had digestive improvement, your brain
fog went away, you lost weight?
Speaker 3 (48:10):
How many others?
Speaker 4 (48:11):
And I started seeing it became I was collecting data
until I actually did three two hundred fifty six people
published the results, And now I'm convinced that there's a
wide range of modern diseases that are all ignited and
exacerbated by eating GMOs and glyphosse. So you don't know
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if your skin condition is related, but many people are.
You don't know if your gluten sensitivity is related, but
many people are. Your blood pressure, your mood, cancer, certainly, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, autism,
all of these have been shown not only correlations but
also in the mechanism. So please take a look for yourself.
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Take some weeks, at least a week, probably more. Two
weeks is a minimum probably to get it all out
of your system and see what not all outvis isn't
but a lot of it, and see what changes happen
when you're strict. So those people that say, yeah, I
like to eat organic when I can, when you go
out to eat, can you eat organic or can you
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at least avoid those things that contain the GMOs and
the round them? So this I think is a life changer,
and I can't overemphasize. You don't have to take my
word for it. Try it, write it down, record it,
and you may be sharing this information on social with
everyone you know once you discover how important it is
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to eat a clean diet.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
So I understand GMO point two gene editing and genetically
engineered microbes are in the works. What are we looking
at there?
Speaker 4 (49:47):
I did mention that gene editing like crisper is being
used all over unregulated, But I'm mostly concerned with the
microbiome at this point, and not just the human microbiome.
Microbes turn out be the micro Jedi army that's working
on our behalf. The microbes in the soil basically govern
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the carbon exchange system, the carbon cycling. The algae in
the oceans produce most of the world's oxygen. The microrhizal
fungi in forests will shuttle nutrients between trees and allow young,
young trees to grow. And the microbiome inside us can
determine whether we are fat or skinny, healthy or not,
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even our mood. The microbes are way out, are punching
above their weight. They have a tremendous influence in the planet,
in our bodies now. One of the ways that microbes
work and the ways that they're so intelligent, is that
they go to big genetic swap meets. They'll change, they'll
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pass their genes on, so it says, oh, this one
worked for me and gave me a survival advantage. Here
you try it like dungeons and dragons or baseball cards,
and they'll pass around their genes, and so there's this
big swarming of genes that gets that move from type
to type and spread around the world. Now, think about
this more and more science. More and more science classes
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in high school, and many of them in college already
have Crisper labs. You can buy a Crysper lab for
less than two thousand dollars. You can make your own
genetically engineered microbes, putting in genes that never before were
in the bacteria or other types of microorganisms. Then they
get released into the environment. You lick your hands, you
touch things. It's going to be easy in a high
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school classroom and often very easy in college. Now we're
flooding the microbiome with new types of genes. Now, many
of them will die. That the microbes will die, but
some will survive and some will pass these around. Now,
think of these factories where they take microbes like yeaster
algae or bacteria, and they put in genes in order
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to produce a targeted medicine. Maybe they're producing THC or
opioids or something, or maybe some industrial enzyme. Because they're
turning the microbes into factories. Now, that escapes, and now
we have these that are producing microbes that are things
that are dangerous, or you have companies that are spreading
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genetically engineered microbes on tens of millions of acres of
agriculture that haven't been properly tested and their genes may
transfer if we allow this potential destruction of the microbiome.
In my mind, it is the single greatest existential threat
that's available that could cause damage immediately. There's evidence now,
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for example, with COVID and others, that it's dangerous to
genetically engineer and enhance potentially pandemic pathogens. So there's efforts
to stop that, and I think that's great, but it's
just the first start because they're not paying attention to biology.
Those are the pathogens that we don't want to spread.
We all know what they can do. But what about
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the healthy bacteria inside us? What about the bacteria that's
needed by children, the bifodo bacteria to make them healthy
and give them a healthy life for.
Speaker 3 (53:11):
The rest of the rest of their days.
Speaker 4 (53:13):
What if that gets corrupted by someone eating something that
was contaminated by something from a factory or a school.
The basic fundamental healthy stuff, the stuff and the soil.
We have to protect that as much as we have
to protect against pathogens. So the Institute for Responsible Technology
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is focusing on that because that, to me is the
is the micro element and elephant in the room that
if we don't protect the microbiome, we could be destroyed.
Speaker 2 (53:52):
Well, it's really close to us running out of time,
and I would be remiss if I didn't ask you,
Jeffrey yet about a minute, what's your mission?
Speaker 3 (54:00):
Well, it's interesting.
Speaker 4 (54:02):
My mission has been to protect all living beings and
all future generations from the artificial manipulation of GMOs, of
the DNA and the associated chemicals. I'm also working on
helping raise collective consciousness, both through information and through techniques
that I'm developing, which you and I can talk about
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in a few months when my new book comes out.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
Well, that sounds like a wonderful thing. And Jeffrey, doing
what you're doing, it's taken a lot of courage, it's
taken a lot of work, and I want to give
you appreciation from me and certainly from all of our
audience for what you're doing and continue to do.
Speaker 3 (54:41):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (54:42):
And I think when people live their mission being this
being mission evolution. You don't need courage because it's fearlessness.
It just becomes easy to do.
Speaker 2 (54:51):
Thank you so much, Jeffrey. Unfortunately we are out of time.
Our guest is Hour has been Jeffrey M. Smith, the
founder and executive director of I R T and the
author of Seeds of Deception. To find out more about Jeffrey,
where you can find his books and all he has
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Speaker 2 (01:20):
Genetically modified foods are a source of great controversy. There's
strong opposition to them from some, but others are unconcerned.
What are the facts? Do GMOs and glyphasate have a
secret health risk? If so, what specific risks are involved
and how can they remain on the market. Mission Evolution
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Radio TV show is coming to you around the world
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this hour to take a closer look at GMOs and
glyfasate is Jeffrey M. Smith. Jeffrey is the founder and
executive director of IRT, the author of Seeds of Deception,
and award winning filmmaker. As a global thought leader on
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the health dangers of genetically modified organisms for over twenty
seven years, he's authored two best sellers, directed five documentaries,
delivered two thousand lectures and interviews in forty five countries,
trained one five hundred speakers, and organized more than ten
thousand grassroots advocates. Jeffrey has counseled world leaders on six continents,
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and his meticulous research presented at medical conferences inspired thousands
to prescribe non GMO and organic diets his website Responsible
technology dot org. Jeffrey, thank you for joining us on
Mission Evolution.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
So great to be here. Gilda, thank you, thank.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
You for coming in. So how'd you first become interested
in GMO and glycysate.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Well, in nineteen ninety six I went to a lecture
biogenetic engineer, and he actually is kind of a whistleblower
in that he was doing research on DNA for cancer
and then Monsanto decided that they wanted to introduce GMOs
into the food supply, and so he announced in his
lecture that there was no way that Monsanto or any
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company or individual could genetically engineer the DNA and change
it in a way that was predictable and safe. And
so the changes that they were making by creating round
up ready soy for example, soy crops designed to be
sprayed with the company's round up and not die that
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was going to be put into the food supply and
exposed to virtually everyone in the country and many people
in the world. Moreover, once you release genetically engineered organisms
into the environment, you can't recall them because they can
self propagate. So I was kind of shocked at this
news that I had never heard of at the time.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, very shocking. So I saw at one point a
young girl that was kind of taking on Montsotto about
about the not labeling, and she said, you know, I'm
not telling you can or cant or whatever else. She's
just a young girl. She's I just want to know
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what's in my food. And the argument went round and
round and round and round. Do you know if they
ever got to where they had to at least label it.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Well, there's about sixty five countries that require labeling of
some sort, but the United States labeling laws that were
produced by the US by actually the USDA are as
if written by the biotic industry. There are so many
loopholes and so many ways that a genetically engineered substance
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can avoid being labeled. And they tried to say, well,
you can put a QR code on, so make it hidden.
Or put a toll free number under some circumstances, or
instead of calling it GMO, we'll call it bioengineered. So
right now, if you see a product that says made
with io engineered ingredients, that means GMO, and it's designed
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to confuse because people know, the biotech industry knows, the
US government knows that people don't want to eat GMOs,
and for good reason as well. Here today there are
many many diseases associated with the consumption of GMOs and
the roundup herbicide or glyphosate toxin that is poured onto
many of these genetically engineered crops.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
So you mentioned that once you plant them and they
start growing, they continue to propagate, do they start to distort,
Does the DNA stay that, stay modified, or do they
start to create their own nightmare.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
It's an excellent question, and it turns out there was
a report done several years ago about the changes in
the DNA and its expression after GMOs were introduced, and
absolutely they do change. They're not stable. Now, it's not
necessarily every single GMO will change, but over time, there's
a lot of shifts that happen. You see, we don't
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understand yet the language of the DNA and how it works,
and yet we're acting as if we do so. Sometimes
you'll release a genetically engineered corn, for example, that's engineered
to produce its own toxic insecticide to kill insects, and
it produces a certain amount of that toxin. I've talked
to some friends who did some research in one field.
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There was dramatically different levels of that toxin produced, at
some cases levels that would be extremely dangerous in my
opinion for human consumption or exposure, although I think that
that toxin is dangerous at any level. And in fact,
many of the scientists who were advising the Environmental Protection
Agency said no, no, this could be a toxin or
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an allergen, And the EPA said, we're not paying attention
to you. We're allowing it on the market and calling
this corn a registered insecticide.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
So why were this must be neutral and kind of
policing stuff? Quite did they ignore the clear evidence.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
It turns out that many of the regulatory agencies are captured.
I'll give you an example. The White House told the FDA,
USDA and EPA back in the nineties early nineties promote GMOs,
get them on the market, use existing laws that were
not designed for GMOs. We don't want to give it
to Congress to create new laws.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
So the FDA.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Brought in Monsanto's former attorney, Michael Taylor, who was in
charge of policy at the FDA, and his policy claimed
that there was no difference between GMOs and non GMOs,
therefore no testing or labeling was necessary. He then became
Monsanto's vice president. Documents made public from a lawsuit years
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later show that it was actually a lie that in fact,
not only was the.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
FDA aware of the.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Difference between GMOs and non GMOs, the consensus among the
scientists tasked with recommending policy said that GMOs could create allergens, toxins,
new diseases, and nutritional problems, and had urged their superiors
to require long term testing human toxicological testing, and all
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of that was ignored. Similarly, at the EPA, documents made
public from a lawsuits showed that the Monsanto company had
as if their own people working for them in the
EPA getting things approved over the objections of others. So
we have seen the incredible influence of corporations over regulatory
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agencies in GMOs and round it.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
So it sounds like the FDA. What they police is
the Food and Drug Administration's company's bottom line.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
You know, they call their clients the companies that are
asking for approval, rather than their clients as the American people.
And I've done some analysis or investigations into the FDA.
There's whistle blowers there that described the problems their same
as the EPA. In fact, when Monsanta wanted to approve
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its bovine growth hormone, a drug injected into cows to
increase milk supply, Michael Taylor, their former lawyer, was in charge.
Then Susan Setchen, who had done research for Monsanto on
bovine growth hormone, took up the role of overseeing the
review at the FDA. Then Margaret Miller, who had done
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research for Monsanto, became in charge of a department that
evaluated her research. And so it was basically a captive
situation and a revolving door. Many of the people in
the regulatory agencies will move back and forth between the
companies that they're supposedly regulating, and we sell that with
Monsanto as well.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
So let's back up just a little bit, would you
for our audience, would you know, I think everybody assumes
they know what GMOs are, but what are they exactly?
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Genetically modified organisms are ways in which we take the
DNA and make changes artificially. We can put in genes
from foreign organisms, like they did with round up pretty crops,
taking genes from bacteria to make the crops not die
when sprayed with roundup, or you can go in with
gene editing tools and move things around. Now, they claimed
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for years that it was safe and predictable, when in
fact the most common result of genetic engineering is surprise
side effects. It can create massive collateral damage in the
DNA which could increase the levels of existing allergens and toxins,
or create even new ones that have never before existed
in those plants. And so the situation is now there's
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a quote new form of genetic engineering called gene editing
like crisper, and they claim that it's They're saying, oh,
this is much better than the old version, and yet
it is full of problems. In fact, the journal Nature
described it as chromosomal mayhem. And because they've convinced governments,
the biotic industry has convinced governments that it is safe
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and predictable and even natural, which it isn't. Governments all
over the world are saying, fine, gene edit whatever you want,
put it in the food supply, put it in nature,
change the microbiome, take control. They've given the keys to
the kingdoms to anyone with even two thousand dollars to
buy their own crisper kit. In fact, you don't even
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need that. You can just go to a high school
classroom in many places and be assigned to change the
DNA of organisms that could be released to change the
nature of nature.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Well, it's not nice to fool Mother Nature, right? So
is there also impact on the nutritional value of these
foods that have been altered?
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Very much?
Speaker 4 (11:55):
So, there's been comparisons between, for example, genetically engineered corn
and natural corn. I've seen the side by side, and
there's a dramatic reduction in the nutritional value.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
There's also an increase.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
In some of the toxins in there as well. The
genetically engineered corn of one type has a gene that
was turned on that produces a known allergen called gamazine.
There's another genetically engineered corn that has higher levels of
putresine and cadaverine. These are I know, I hate the names.
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Actually I love those names, but they really convey what
it is that they do. They create the rotting odor
of the foul out of rotting dead bodies, and they
also are linked to allergens and cancer. So there's a
lot of changes, and yet the biotic industry is not
required to do an evaluation of all those changes. Remember
it was Monsanto's former attorney who said no testing or
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labeling is necessary. So the basic studies to see well,
what's actually different in the two aren't done by the companies.
They're often done independent, and there's not a lot of them.
But when they do do the independent research, when they
can get the money and the grants, they discover significant
differences that can be quite dangerous.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Significant differences in the outcome that the independence come up
with versus the ones that are working.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
For, not only in the composition but also in its
effect on laboratory animals. So Monsante will run a ninety
day study and stop it there and say, oh, it's
all good, and oh, this change here, it's not related
to the biology. This change here is not related to
the glypha state of the GMO, And they say it
without any scientific justification. But scientists that have evaluated and say, oh,
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wait a minute, this shows real signs of toxicity, and
those that have done longer studies have shown the growth
of tumors, damage to the kidney and liver, multiple massive
tumors that were twenty five percent the body weight, early death,
organ damage, and when they come out with their information,
they're attacked by a kind of an echo chamber of
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front groups and individuals who are given a certain set
of talking points that we see all over the world
to try and discredit any individual organization that might say
that GMOs are dangerous and unhealthy.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Well, it's time for us to take a short break,
Jeffrey and I will return shortly. Please don't go away.
This is Mission Evolution www dot Mission evolution dot org
is our food making us sick with this this hour
discussing GMOs and Glyphysate is the author of Seeds of Deception.
Jeffrey M. Smith his website Responsible Technology dot org. Jeffrey,
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you did considerable research I understand on the GMOs and glyphasates.
Where did you h what did your research consist of,
and where did you get the information to do it?
Speaker 4 (14:52):
I interviewed dozens of scientists and doctors around the world
and Oftentimes these are scientists that have disc governed problems
but have been fired, stripped of responsibilities for stylets censured.
My book Seeds of Deception opens with a story of
doctor r. Podpusti, who discovered that the process of genetic
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engineering creates massive damage in the rats that were fed
the GMOs, and that it was the process of GMOs,
not a particular specific change that he was doing in
his potatoes. Now, he was working with a grant from
the UK government to come up with protocols for how
to test GMOs that were going to be implemented EU wide.
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But when he discovered his problems, we hear that a
phone call from Monsanto went to Clinton, that went to
Tony Blair, that went to the institute where he was working,
and he was fired the next day, basically after thirty
five years, and he was told not to talk about
He was silenced with threats of a lawsuit. And I
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went into the whole detail in the first check of
how the political influence was designed to cover up what
he had discovered that may be unfolding inside all of
our bodies. And so some of the research was from
these type of whistleblowers or scientists that had discovered information,
and I also did some of my own interviews with
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people who have shifted from GMOs to non GMOs or
non GMOs to GMOs. We surveyed two hundred and fifty
six people who reported getting better from twenty eight different
conditions at about one hundred and fifty lectures around the country.
I asked for show of hands in terms of how
many people notice getting better when they switched to non GMO,
what they got better from. So I've been interviewing people,
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and I did a film with Amy Hart called Secret
Ingredients where we look at about a dozen individuals who
got dramatically better when they switched to organic food. Organic
because that eliminates both GMOs and the glycos sate herbicide,
and it wasn't just one offs that the doctors in
the film say, this is actually typical of the patients
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that we see every day who we put on an
organic diet. And the scientists in the film say, this
is why we have little animations of the different body
systems and say glyphysate does this, and glycasate does this,
and GMO does this. So I've had the honor of
being able to collect all this information for many scientists
who are focused in their particular specialty. And I've had
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a chance to put it together in a couple of
books and also some movies and talks and training programs,
et cetera. And it's very very strong evidence.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Now I understand, and we of course can't put them
up here, but I understand. You have some charts that
relate the GMOs to and glyphysates to human health. Where
did you get the information for those charts and what
did they show?
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Doctor Nancy Swanson and doctor Stephanie Cenna were primary researchers,
and they went and collected public data CDC data, et cetera,
hospital admissions, death rates, et cetera, from specific diseases, and
they took USDA Department of Agriculture statistics in terms of
how much genetically engineered corn and soy are planted each year,
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how much glyphosate based herbicides are sprayed on those each year,
and they had a curve of the amount of GMOs
and the amount of glyphysate and then they put on
the same chart the specific rise of these diseases, and
the correlations are breathtaking. Autism is nearly a perfect correlation.
Point nine nine seventy five compared to a one, which
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would have been perfect. There's diabetes, obesity, allergies, there's hypertension,
deaths from hypertension, deaths from Alzheimer's, deaths from senile dementia,
all sorts of cancers. There's a tremendous body of evidence
in the correlation that these things are moving in parallel. Now, correlation,
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as you know, doesn't prove causation, but we also have
the evidence of two hundred and fifty six people who
got better from many of these diseases when they switched
to organic We also have the animal feeding studies that
show that the rats and mice that were force fed
GMOs in round up suffered from these same set of
diseases or their precursors. We even have the plausible pathways
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the biochemistry, saying well, what does for example, glyphosate do
in the system. Glyphosate, when you take it in the system,
it shuts down the production of a precursor to serotonin,
which is a precursor to melatonin, which help us go
to sleep. So the insomnia and sleep disorders rose in
parallel with the amount of glyphosate in the US food supply.
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When people get off of the GMOs and glyphysate, they
get better from insomnia. So we have a very specific example.
The number one most common reported resis in terms of
getting better when switching to organic was digestive disorders. Eighty
five point two percent of the more than three thousand
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people we surveyed said they got better, and most of
it was significantly better from digestive disorders. So I published
a peer reviewed study in the International Journal of Human
Nutrition and Functional Medicine which gave the results of the
survey and then did a deep dive showing all the
ways that GMOs and glyphisate and the insect decide that's
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in the corn could be contributing to deterioration of the
of the digestive health in the United States and around
the world.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
So we haven't talked about glyphisate really specifically. What is it.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Glyphasate was originally patented as a descaler to clean inside
boilers and.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Pipes in industry.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Now it's a It grabs onto minerals. It's a key lader,
and we normally think of key lators as oh, let's
get rid of the heavy metals. This grabs onto all
the metals and that's why it was a descaler because
it would clean off the metal deposits, and when they
put the effluence into the ground, it would kill all
of the weeds and all actually anything living. And so
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Monsanto then patented it as an herbicide, and it's part
of round up herbicide, most of them, but not all
of the round up now and it's also been declared
by the World Health Organization as a probable human carcinogen.
But it's also linked to many many other disorders, and
it was the biotic industry in particular. Monsanto was very
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convincing to the administration that oh, it's completely safe, there's
no toxicity. Well, it turns out in the lawsuits that
were now charging carconogicity or cancer to Monsanto and Bear
company that bought Monsanto, they were forced to show all
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of these documents, and that the documents about how they
tested glyphastate and declared that it was safe were, according
to the scientists and the lawyers that I spoke to,
based on fraud. I'll give you an example. When Monsanto
was they had to see how much of the roundup
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was absorbed into human skin. So they took human skin
from a cadaver and put round up and about ten
percent went in, which was over three times the allowable level.
So they had an idea. They took new human skin
from a cadaver and they cooked it in an oven,
got it really tough, but that wasn't good enough. Then
they froze it and they took that cooked frozen human skin,
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applied round up and hardly any got absorbed. They reported
that level to the EPA without telling them that they
had cooked and frozen human skin. They had hired an
expert at Carconogicity to see if their round up or
glyphistate caused cancer, thinking he would clear it. He said,
oh no, there's showing that there's genotoxicity here. In fact,
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it could be even more with the whole formulation. So
they fired that guy. They said we're not going to
use them anymore. And according to the court documents, they
ghost wrote their own study a review and got people
scientists to sign the name that came.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Up with the opposite conclusion.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Their early studies were done by a company that was
so full of fraud that the people went to jail,
including one of Monstanto's executives that went from Monsanto into
this testing company and then back to Monsanto and then
to jail because of the fraud that was used on
the animal feeding studies that got these things approved. I
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can go on and have gone on for hours to
show how they rig their research, cover up the information,
but also attack or fire scientists that have discovered it.
They've attacked me. They've done all sorts of things, and
it's standard practice now in order to keep profits flowing.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
So you brought up another interesting thing. A lot of
our cattle, a lot of our food is I've heard
you aren't what you eat, You are what you eat. Eight. Okay,
what's happening to the livestock that's first being fed this
treated gmo corn and soy and then it go ends
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up on our table? What goes on there?
Speaker 4 (24:24):
The majority of feed fed to cattle and other livestock
in the United States is the round up ready soy corn, cottonseed, canola,
sugar beets, and alfalfa. Those are the six round up
pretty crops. Now, first of all, when you spray round
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up on these crops, normally glyphosate should kill, but when
it's genetically engineered, it doesn't die. The glypha sate gets
absorbed into the crops and then stored in the grain.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Or food portion.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
So if we eat these products soy, corn, et cetera,
then we can't wash it off. It's inside. The animals
eat this. Now it turns out the crops themselves have
very much lower levels of minerals and nutrition. The glyphosate,
as you remember, is a key lator, and it grabs
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onto the minerals. They may be in there, but they're
not usable. They're being hugged by this molecule and they're
not going to be used by the system. So we
have massive mineral deficient crops. But there's also residues of
the glyphis sate in these foods high levels. The animals
eat them, and it then grabs onto additional minerals and
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causes leaky god and causes all these other things. But
in terms of minerals, it makes them less available. And
the minerals are important for the immune system, they're important
for cognition. In fact, they're like the keys that turn
on all the motors of all these biochemical pathways. And
when you don't have these minerals, it's like the workers
are on strike. So we've had sive problems with the
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livestock in terms of fertility and health, et cetera. Then
they become mineral deficient. So now we as humans we
eat the animals that are mineral deficient and sick. We
eat the GMOs that are mental deficient and have glyphosate residues,
which then draw more minerals out of us. And that's
just the minerals. But if we look just at the minerals,
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they're related to all these different diseases. Similarly, I threw
in a word called leaky gut, or a phrase where
the gaps between the cells and our guts can open up.
You can see it on a microscope. Add a little glyphosate,
they separate. There's a study by a Harvard professor that
says all disease is linked to leaki gut. In our gut,
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there's also the microbiome, the bacteria that turn out to
be like a second organ. It helps us digest, it
helps produce materials for us, it helps our immune system.
There's a connection to our feelings and cognition. It turns
out that glyphosate is a patented antibiotic. It kills the
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bacteria in our gut, but it kills preferentially the beneficial bacteria,
leaving the nasty stuff like E. Colion, salmonella to thrive,
and so the changes in the human gut bacteria according
to one design, one model research, and I interviewed the
scientists that helped design it. They can explain dozens of
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diseases that are on the rise in the US population,
rising in parallel with the increased use of glyphosate. So
we have leaki gut, we have microbiome, we have mineral deficiencies.
These are foundational. Just these alone can cause massive numbers
of people experiencing a variety of diseases. But it doesn't
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stop there. I can continue to talk about what this
chemical does and how my friend from MIT realized that
this is probably driving the autism epidemic. Because it's hand
in glove.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
We're going to have to pick up on that interesting
information on the other side. If you at another station break,
Jeffrey and I will be right back to continue our discussion.
Please stay right there. This is Mission Evolution, Mission Evolution
dot org. It is everywhere. This is Mission Evolution, Mission
Evolution dot Org with us discussing the health risks of
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GMOs and glyphysate. As Jeffrey IM Smith his website Responsible
Technology dot org. So Jeffrey is, as we've been talking,
I have another thought, if you will. So you have
gmo crops corn safe for instance, planet in rows, and
across the road you have an organic farmer. What happens?
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Unfortunately, nature doesn't stay in one place. Things are shared.
So corn is a good example. Because corn pollen can
fly through the air. It typically can go It can
be alive and survive for two to three hours, in
some cases twenty four hours. Imagine how far that could
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travel and land on other corn plants that maybe at
the time when it can be pollinated. A friend of mine,
who was an expert at air pollution, calculated that in
Texas where he lived, that theoretically pollen could travel five
hundred miles and still be viable within the twenty four
hour period. You can find blue and corn is pollinated
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per kernel on those little tassels. So some people will
find little blue kernels in corn and there's no blue
corn anywhere within miles, but some pollen had flown, So
you end up basically contaminating.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Different gene pools.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
When I worked at a GMO detection laboratory in nineteen
ninety nine and two thousand, even before I got there,
they looked at corn seed that was supposedly non GMO,
and there was up to one percent contamination at that time.
Contamination will grow over time. Now, how do you eradicate it? Well,
at that particular laboratory where I was vice president of
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marketing communications, we discovered an illegal variety of corn in
craft taco shells called starlink corn that the EPA advisor
said is a probable human allergen, and it caused a
billion dollar problem. Three hundred and fifteen products were subject
to recall. All export markets to corn in the United
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States closed their doors.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
It was a big deal.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Now they spent all this time trying to get starlink
out of the food supply. Originally they found it in
eighty percent of the samples. After years, it was still
in the food supply a much smaller percentage. But it
can never be eradicated because you can't identify it from
a distance. You can't pick it out. So even if
something is in a field trial like some genetically engineered
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bent grass and oregon, two decades later, it's still there.
They can't eradicate it. They didn't have a proper plan,
so we are now changing the nature of nature. It
becomes a self propagating biological time bomb where we don't
know its qualities, and that has become exacerbated because of
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gene editing, where now they're saying, gene edit anything you want,
put it in, put it in the woods, put it
in the ground, grow it, put it in the food supply.
I'm sure it's fine. So we're in a situation, Grilda,
where we inherited the products of the billions of years
of evolution nature, but what we may be giving to
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future generations is a combination of natural and man made.
And the man made, remember, has surprised side effects and
cannot be recalled.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
That's terrifying. What's the shelf life, if you will, Once
you've put it on the ground of glave estate.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
Well, there's a It degrades depending on the enzymes and
the soil, the biological material, how much clay pH It
could go many many months in terms of how long
it survives. But the longest reported half life, how long
it took to actually just reduce to have was over
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twenty years, like twenty one years, I think. And so
this says that under certain conditions it'll just be around.
Now it can be bound up like remember it's a chylator.
It can be bound up with something in the soil
and you add like a fertilizer or some phosphate, and
all of a sudden it breaks open and now it's
active again. And because it reduces the use of minerals,
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and minerals are important for the immune system. My friend,
Professor Meredith doctor Don Huber, who was an expert at
Life Estate, even did contract work from Monsanto. He says
that the use of roundup, widespread in the United States,
has caused an emergence of over sixty plant diseases, some
that have cost billions of dollars to agriculture, and that
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people are putting it together that it's the glyphosate that's
being spread that's causing the damage, and so that's just
a little bit of the ecosystem damage. It also damages
the microbiome and the soil among other things.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
So does it get into our water supply.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Yes, and it affects the marine life. Now it's not
just the glyphosate, but also the bt toxin which is
created in the corn. That's that insecticide that was washed
into rivers and found that it damaged the cattisfly, which
I have never heard of when I read it, but
it's a foundational component of the marine ecosystem. The glyphosate
can go into the water and it can cause problems
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with the algae bloom, et cetera. In fact, when you
use glyphystate, because it kills the biology in the soil,
the soil becomes more compact, so it doesn't absorb the water,
so the water just flows off into the river or
causes flooding. A friend of mine sent pictures of a
GMO round up brady cornfield on one side and a
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natural cornfield on the other after a rain. The one
that was natural had no water on it because it
all got absorbed. The one that was in the GMO
had puddles. So it goes into the water supply, it
can promote flooding because it washes off, and then it
can damage the entire natural cycle within the water supply
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as well, and it could possibly create these algae blooms.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Well, what about our beneficial bugs like pollinators, bees and such.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Glifa sate turns out to be very toxic to honeybees.
They lose their direction, their ability to come back to
the hive, and it also kills the beneficial bacteria in
their gut, the lack of bacillus, for example, that they
need in order to digest. So sometimes there's plenty of
food there, but they starve to death because they're not digetic. Now,
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there was a company that was identifying the problems between
bees and glyphosate and was coming up with evidence to
show that glyphosate was damaging and the company was called Biologics,
and they were purchased by Monsanto and no longer came
up with any information showing that Monsanto's glyphosate products were
damaging bees. But there is evidence that shows a dramatic
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drop in the b population in part because of glyphosate
and in part because of a something called neonicotinoide nicotinoid
insecticides that are put on the corn seeds and on
the seeds of others, often on GMO seeds to act
as a insecticide in the soil. So between those two
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were causing like a kind of a huge genocide among
the bee population. And these are chemical based genocide.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
The genocide of the bees is going to be genocide
of the humans if keeps up, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
It's you know, there's the bees and the pollinators are
essential for our current food supply. I don't know what
we would do without them. I'm hoping we don't have
to find out.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah, exactly, exactly. So if these products are so dangerous,
why can't you know? Okay, So the Montsato has has
you know, all these people in their pocket right or
in you know, threatened with lawsuit and everything else. But
what's happening are you starting to have? You know, is
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somebody starting to raise up the general populace and say, hey,
quit messing with our environment, messing with our food.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
You know, that was my plan back in nineteen ninety six.
When I heard about it, I decided, okay, so what
can I do. I'm not a scientist. I can't do
the scientific research to prove it. And if I could,
they have We've seen already that you can have strong
evidence over here, and then sometimes the companies will equal
and op opposite research with a different finding that you
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later find out was rigged to create that outcome. And
I have exposed that in my work. So science was
not on the table, and I could try a lawsuit,
but you know there was lawsuits that didn't go very well,
and we found out that the that the judge used
to work for Monsanto. I can go into the details,
but we don't have to do that. I could try legislation,
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but the baotic industry had locked down the White House
and the regulatory agencies. A former FDA official said, the
regulatory agencies has done everything that Big agg has asked
them to do and told.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Them to do.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
So I'm thinking, okay, no, I can't they have there.
They've convinced farmers, They've convinced media, they've convinced academia, they've
convinced the government. The four main focus areas of their
marketing and hype campaign. So I realized that their their
achilles heel is consumers. We need to get the consumers
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aware of the health dangers. So in order for me
to say that GMOs are not safe, why are they
going to listen to me? So I had to come
up with the very specific stories of the scientists that
actually discovered the problems and were fired or censured or
their whole campaign was designed to discredit them. And I
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had to point out what the scientists working at the
FDA actually said as opposed to the political appointees, and
so I had to prove the third party evidence. I
had to show the devious ways that Monsanto and others
were attacking scientists. And then I had to explain what
the health dangers are and focus it on the most
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receptive demographics, because as soon as among the population, if
even a small percentage of people stopped eating GMOs because
they offered no advantage as a marketing agent, they just
were there in the food supply. No one was looking
for an herbicide laden product or a corn that produces insecticide,
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it would become a marketing liability. Now, Monsanto had had
a consultant who announced in a January nineteen ninety nine
conference how they had worked with the company years earlier,
asking what their ideal future was, And their ideal future
in fifteen to twenty years was to genetically engineer one
hundred percent of all commercial seeds and patent them, and
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the consultant work backwards from that goal to create the
strategy and tactics to achieve it. So they were planning
to genetically engineer the food supply. Another report was at
that same conference in January nineteen ninety nine predicted a
ninety five percent takeover of all commercial seeds, but genetic
engineering within.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
As little as five years.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
By educating consumers, we and others were able to derail
that schedule. And now we were trying to get five
percent of US shoppers to consciously avoid GMO. Fifty one
percent of US shoppers believe the GMOs are unsafe. Now
forty eight percent worldwide, and that was several years ago.
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So the way the biotic industry has responded is they've
gone stealth. They're saying gene editing is safe, so we
don't have to tell anyone, the government or consumers if
we're genetically engineering these products, so there can be no
choice in the supermarket.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
That's terrifying, quite frankly. And you know, from what you've said,
and we'll pick up this on the other side of
a station break, but from what you've said, can we
even you know, we say go organic, you know, but
if there's this pollution from field to field as far
as five hundred miles, is even organic unaffected at this point?
Speaker 4 (40:49):
Great question. So we take that up on the other
side with specific recommendations what people can.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Do well, you can start. Now we take it out on.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
The good sounds good so there's mice that were fed
round the pretty soy for eight months.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
They had damage to.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
Their testicles, their pancreas, I believe, their hearts. They then
a group was put on non gm SOI and things
started to repair. So there's a physiological repair mechanism. We
have three and fifty six people who reported getting better
from twenty eight different conditions and diseases when they switched
to organic. So we do know that much of the damage,
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not all of it is reversible. The body can repair.
Now there will be some contamination. The amount we have
on our site at Responsible technology dot org. We have
a glyphosate database that shows which how much glyphasate is
in how much food, which types of food.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
It's not just it's that magic moment. We will pick
up with this information on the other side of a
station break. Please stay with us as Jeffrey and I
continue our discussion. This is Mission Evolution Www. Mission Evolution
do so how do we protect ourselves? This is Mission Evolution,
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Mission Evolution dot org. We're continuing our discussion with Jeffrey M.
Smith his website Responsible technology dot org. Jeffrey, we were
talking about how to avoid GMOs and you were talking
about how that the body bodies, animals and people have
a repair mechanism. Would you mind continuing?
Speaker 4 (42:29):
Sure, So there's two things to avoid, GMOs and glyphosate
based herbicides. I mean, you really want to avoid all
of the chemical nasties, so eating organic doesn't allow those,
and that I would say is the main focus is
to eat organic, which doesn't allow GMOs, glyphasate.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
And other things.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
Now, if you can eat organic, then you want to
avoid the products that are sprayed with a lot of
round up and avoid the products that contain GMOs. Now
let's start with the roundup where the glyph sate based herbicides.
It's not all just round up.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Now.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
In two thousand and six or so, there was reports
on Monsanto's website to famed It farmers saying you can
dry down your grain by spraying glycasate a round up
on your products three to five days before harvest. Wheat farmers,
oat farmers lagoons like lentils and mungies and whatnot. They'd
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spray glycasate based herbicides on their field just before harvest. Now,
you know it's gonna kill those products eventually, but it
does it slowly. It first dries it down, but it
also forces ripening. So when areas in the North and Canada,
when it's when they want to get right quickly, they'll
kill it and there's all the energy goes like save
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the kids. So they send all the energy in the
in the crops to the grain. The grain ripens and
everything dries down so there's less mold. When it's when
it's actually process and they've killed the weeds for next year,
it's called staging. And so if you look at our
database at Responsible Technology dot org and you look at
what has a large amount of glyphosate in it, you're
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gonna find oats and mung beans and wheat and lentils
and things that are not GMO. None of those are
genetically engineered in this country. You'll also find soy and corn,
and then there's cottonseed oil and canola oil, but they
may not have much in it because the oils don't
carry it as much. But you'll have to find what
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you eat often that has all this high level of glyphisate,
and then those should definitely be organic. So like I
traveled almost NonStop, and I used to have oatmeal and
the hotels for breakfast, and I realize oatmeal is just
floats in glyphisaate, so avoid the roundup and the oa
glyphisate and then avoiding the GMOs. Also on our site,
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we name them all and I'll do them quickly. So
there's just a dozen soy corn, cotton, caola, sugar beets, alfalfa, zucchini,
yellow squash, potatoes, apples, there's a pink papaya. Now there's
also little ones that are starting to show up, this
purple purple tomato that's coming out of northern California. There's
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there was salmon for a while, but it looks like
that has stopped because the company went belly up. And
then there's genetically engineered wheat in Argentina and some eggplant
in Bangladesh, but mostly those are the ones in the
United States.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
So people you know complain, you know rightly, so that
organic is so much more expensive than conventional with all
the goodies and not so goodies in it. But what
about the nutritional factor. If the food that's been treated
and genetically modified has lower food value and things in
(46:00):
there that block the things we very need, how much
of a bargain is it?
Speaker 3 (46:05):
I love your question.
Speaker 4 (46:06):
Nutrient density is generally higher with organic, and regenerative is
even higher. Regenerative is when they focus on creating more
biologics and health and the soil, which then create more
nutrient density in the plant. So if you eat a
cucumber and it's been commercially raised, if it's not GMO,
just commercially raised, and they spray a bunch of things
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so the cucumber doesn't have to fight against any diseases
or whatnot, So it's vital chemical levels are down, and
it's nutrient levels are down, and it's whatnot. And then
you take another cucumber or whatever it is. You may
need three cucumbers over here to have the nutrient value
of the organic, and even less for more of the
over here for the regenerative. So I would like to
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suggest strongly the following recommendations. First of all, put some
of your medical budget, your health budget, into your food.
I've talked to so many people, and then the film
Secret Ingredients that I did with Amy Hart, many of
the families that we interviewed say, we don't go to
the doctor anymore. We just don't get sick. Many people's
health bills go down by a lot, less by a
(47:11):
lot more than what they're spending for the extra organic food.
Put some of your philanthropy dollars into that, because now
you're now contributing to a healthier world and healthier farmers,
so big make a bigger budget. At the same time,
create a spreadsheet and on the left side all of
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your symptoms of how well you slept, your energy level,
and your mood, and at the top of each column
what percentage of organic you ate that day, and then
one to ten all of the symptoms.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
Energy level, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (47:49):
I say this because I was not aware of how
many different diseases and disorders are connected with GMOs and
roundup until I started asking audiences thirteen years ago. I
was like, how many people noticed? I was a little hesitant.
All these hands went up. I said, oh really, what
did you notice? Oh you had digestive improvement, your brain
fog went away, you lost weight?
Speaker 3 (48:10):
How many others?
Speaker 4 (48:11):
And I started seeing it became I was collecting data
until I actually did three two hundred fifty six people
published the results, And now I'm convinced that there's a
wide range of modern diseases that are all ignited and
exacerbated by eating GMOs and glyphosse. So you don't know
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if your skin condition is related, but many people are.
You don't know if your gluten sensitivity is related, but
many people are. Your blood pressure, your mood, cancer, certainly, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, autism,
all of these have been shown not only correlations but
also in the mechanism. So please take a look for yourself.
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Take some weeks, at least a week, probably more. Two
weeks is a minimum probably to get it all out
of your system and see what not all outvis isn't
but a lot of it, and see what changes happen
when you're strict. So those people that say, yeah, I
like to eat organic when I can, when you go
out to eat, can you eat organic or can you
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at least avoid those things that contain the GMOs and
the round them? So this I think is a life changer,
and I can't overemphasize. You don't have to take my
word for it. Try it, write it down, record it,
and you may be sharing this information on social with
everyone you know once you discover how important it is
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to eat a clean diet.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
So I understand GMO point two gene editing and genetically
engineered microbes are in the works. What are we looking
at there?
Speaker 4 (49:47):
I did mention that gene editing like crisper is being
used all over unregulated, But I'm mostly concerned with the
microbiome at this point, and not just the human microbiome.
Microbes turn out be the micro Jedi army that's working
on our behalf. The microbes in the soil basically govern
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the carbon exchange system, the carbon cycling. The algae in
the oceans produce most of the world's oxygen. The microrhizal
fungi in forests will shuttle nutrients between trees and allow young,
young trees to grow. And the microbiome inside us can
determine whether we are fat or skinny, healthy or not,
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even our mood. The microbes are way out, are punching
above their weight. They have a tremendous influence in the planet,
in our bodies now. One of the ways that microbes
work and the ways that they're so intelligent, is that
they go to big genetic swap meets. They'll change, they'll
(50:50):
pass their genes on, so it says, oh, this one
worked for me and gave me a survival advantage. Here
you try it like dungeons and dragons or baseball cards,
and they'll pass around their genes, and so there's this
big swarming of genes that gets that move from type
to type and spread around the world. Now, think about
this more and more science. More and more science classes
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in high school, and many of them in college already
have Crisper labs. You can buy a Crysper lab for
less than two thousand dollars. You can make your own
genetically engineered microbes, putting in genes that never before were
in the bacteria or other types of microorganisms. Then they
get released into the environment. You lick your hands, you
touch things. It's going to be easy in a high
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school classroom and often very easy in college. Now we're
flooding the microbiome with new types of genes. Now, many
of them will die. That the microbes will die, but
some will survive and some will pass these around. Now,
think of these factories where they take microbes like yeaster
algae or bacteria, and they put in genes in order
(51:57):
to produce a targeted medicine. Maybe they're producing THC or
opioids or something, or maybe some industrial enzyme. Because they're
turning the microbes into factories. Now, that escapes, and now
we have these that are producing microbes that are things
that are dangerous, or you have companies that are spreading
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genetically engineered microbes on tens of millions of acres of
agriculture that haven't been properly tested and their genes may
transfer if we allow this potential destruction of the microbiome.
In my mind, it is the single greatest existential threat
that's available that could cause damage immediately. There's evidence now,
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for example, with COVID and others, that it's dangerous to
genetically engineer and enhance potentially pandemic pathogens. So there's efforts
to stop that, and I think that's great, but it's
just the first start because they're not paying attention to biology.
Those are the pathogens that we don't want to spread.
We all know what they can do. But what about
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the healthy bacteria inside us? What about the bacteria that's
needed by children, the bifodo bacteria to make them healthy
and give them a healthy life for.
Speaker 3 (53:11):
The rest of the rest of their days.
Speaker 4 (53:13):
What if that gets corrupted by someone eating something that
was contaminated by something from a factory or a school.
The basic fundamental healthy stuff, the stuff and the soil.
We have to protect that as much as we have
to protect against pathogens. So the Institute for Responsible Technology
(53:35):
is focusing on that because that, to me is the
is the micro element and elephant in the room that
if we don't protect the microbiome, we could be destroyed.
Speaker 2 (53:52):
Well, it's really close to us running out of time,
and I would be remiss if I didn't ask you,
Jeffrey yet about a minute, what's your mission?
Speaker 3 (54:00):
Well, it's interesting.
Speaker 4 (54:02):
My mission has been to protect all living beings and
all future generations from the artificial manipulation of GMOs, of
the DNA and the associated chemicals. I'm also working on
helping raise collective consciousness, both through information and through techniques
that I'm developing, which you and I can talk about
(54:23):
in a few months when my new book comes out.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
Well, that sounds like a wonderful thing. And Jeffrey, doing
what you're doing, it's taken a lot of courage, it's
taken a lot of work, and I want to give
you appreciation from me and certainly from all of our
audience for what you're doing and continue to do.
Speaker 3 (54:41):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (54:42):
And I think when people live their mission being this
being mission evolution. You don't need courage because it's fearlessness.
It just becomes easy to do.
Speaker 2 (54:51):
Thank you so much, Jeffrey. Unfortunately we are out of time.
Our guest is Hour has been Jeffrey M. Smith, the
founder and executive director of I R T and the
author of Seeds of Deception. To find out more about Jeffrey,
where you can find his books and all he has
to offer, visit his website Responsible Technology dot org. This
has been Mission Evolution with Guildoweka. For more information or
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