June 28, 2025 • 55 mins
Peter Canova is a highly successful, multi-lingual, international businessman who, after a series of life-changing spiritual experiences, began studying and writing on spirituality and consciousness. He is the author of the 25 X award-winning First Souls Trilogy and has contributed to the popular Chicken Soup for the Soul series. His latest book is “Quantum Spirituality.”
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:39):
What is reality? It's an age old question, seemingly unanswerable.
This puzzled people for centuries. Is it possible that consciousness, perception,
and frequency are the key? If that's so, do we
have more power over reality than we think? Mission Evolution
Radio TV show was coming to you around the world
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on the exon Bro TV channel, But this is hour
to ponder the nature of reality is Peter Canova. Peter
is a highly successful, multilingual international businessman who, after a
series of life changing spiritual experiences, began studying and writing
on spirituality and consciousness. He's the author of twenty five
(01:21):
times award winning First Soul's Trilogy and has contributed to
the popular Chicken Soup for the Soul series. His latest
book is entitled Quantum Spirituality. His website Petercanova dot com. Peter,
thank you so much for joining us on Mission Evolution.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Nice to be here. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
It's a pleasure. Now I take it you're not a
quantum physicist. How did you become interested in quantum physics
as it relates to spirituality.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Well, when I was in my twenties, I had a
series of very vivid spiritual or psychic experiences rather spontaneously,
and I found out that I was a very accurate
medical intuitive. Once the disbelief of that went to the
back of my mind, I experienced a whole series of
things like psychokinesis, remote viewing, clairvoyance, claire audience, and you know,
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being kind of a ground I'm still kind of a
grounded person, a Capricorn, and I wanted to understand what
were the nuts and bolts behind this, So I started
studying spiritual texts and from that I went to quantum physics,
because the nexus of those two approaches is that they
deal with light, matter, and energy, and that's what reality
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is all about. So the interesting thing is on the
spiritual side, of course, that's a subjective approach to trying
to understand deeper reality. On the quantum physical side, it's
an objective approach using the scientific method, and it's very
interesting to see how they overlap and they head in
the same direction.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
They seem to be on a collision course. They're both
searching for the same thing. And I think someplace in
the middle maybe truth will be found.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
You suppose you know, I agree. I mean, to me,
it's like a roadmap. And you know, most of the
work that I do is really to provide kind of
a roadmap to people. And when you have a map,
you need more than one coordinate. You know, you need
up and down, north and south whatever, in order to
have a correct frame or reference. And I think that's
what quantum physics and spiritual wisdom really do, is that
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it gives us those coordinates and X and y access.
We have a kind of now an arena in which
we can, you know, plot our course and make more
sense about the world.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
So kind of like a triangulation. Yeah, there's you know,
because there's there's we know there's holes in the scientific method.
I mean, the observer effect a loan is enough to
make you cringe. And of course there's whole holes in
the religious approach. If it goes more dogmatic and is
less spiritual so do they kind of filter each other
out when they come together.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Well, I think the limitation of the scientific method is
that it's what is measureable and observable, but not everything
is measurable and observable. Religion and to me, spirituality are
two different things. May be somewhat related, but really two
different things. Religion is dogmatic, and I think religion is
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kind of like a closed box. You know, they want
you in there, and you know, you sort of subscribe
to the rules and okay, you know you're part of
the tribe. Where spirituality is really more open ended. It's
a journey rather than a stop at any particular destination.
And so I think that the great thing about spirituality
and the great spiritual masters of the past is that
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they've been able to go where science can't tread, which
is to penetrate with their mind and thought and connection
to the source intelligence that they can bring back information
that you wouldn't be able to really delve into just
using the confines of the scientific method.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Speaking of which you have a different slant on information,
how would you define information?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Well, I think we need to expand for the average person.
I think we need to expand our idea and what
information is about. I mean, if you ask people what's information,
they probably would say, I don't know, you know, communication,
you know, whatever, have a little bit of a vague
notion to what it is. But in scientific terms, and
not just scientific terms, but in reality, information is much
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more specific. For one thing, information is not abstract. It's physical.
It has mass, It's actually encoded in the subatomic particles
that make up our universe, kind of like DNA that
forms our body. It contains algorithmic type instructions that really
create the variety that we see in the phenomenal world.
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And since that's the case, it really leads to another
very interesting question, which is that, okay, well, you know,
where's that information coming from? Because information implies organization and
implies direction, which in turn applies implies intelligence. So you know,
we now start to say, oh, okay, you know, there's
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a source perhaps of of intelligence that is producing all
this information which makes up the physical and the energetic worlds.
You know. In fact, it's a very very interesting If
I could just share with you a quote from Max Planck,
who is the founder of quantum physics back at the
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turn of the century. To me, I mean this guy.
This guy, to me is right up there with Einstein.
I mean, he really was the one who brought the
whole idea of understanding light energy in the quantum age
to science. And Plank said, I can tell you, as
a result of my research about the atoms this much.
There is no matter as such. There is no matter
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as such. All matter originates and exists only by virtue
of a force or energy which brings the particles of
an atom to by behind the existence of all matter
is a conscious, intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix
of all matter. So this is pretty astounding because what
he's really saying is there's really no such thing as
physical reality, and at the deepest levels in the quantum world,
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there are no particles. All there are waves of energy.
So Plank is saying that this energy is an intelligent
energy and it's the source of everything we see with
variations of frequency to it. And he had a formula
for that, which I'm happy to talk about. But anyway,
that's so.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
We have an intelligent universe, just as I always expected.
This is too much to be random, right yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yeah, And you know, Plank had an equation which I
think is probably the most important equation in science. I
put it up, I rank it above equals mc squared
and it's a very simple, elegant formula E equals HF.
Now E is energy. The source energy H means it's constant,
it's unchanging, it never changes. What F it means frequency.
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So what it means is the source energy expresses itself
in different frequencies and that gives rise to the variety
of everything that we see. We're actually a play on
a constant on a constant symphonic theme. Different frequencies and
different vibrations of the one universal energy is what really
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creates reality. And that's essentially what plant formula was saying.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
So given that, what do our thoughts do to reality?
That's a force, right.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yeah, Well, if consciousness is everything, and it really is,
there's a whole movement now in science called panpsychism which
is gaining a lot of momentum, believe it or not
amongst a lot of scientists, which is that everything is
conscious and it's just a matter of degree of vibration.
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So a rock contains consciousness. It's not the same degree
of consciousness that we possess, but it is a form
of consciousness which gives it form and gives it characteristics.
So you know this, uh, this idea of that people
are co creators has some merit to it because we
are part of that conscious stream. You know. The way
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I like to think of the GUILDA is the source
consciousness is the uh in an electrical grid, the source
consciousness is the source energy is the source electricity. But
it gets distributed out through relay stations. And you know
we're that kind of tap down the energy to make
it usable for everyday use as well. That's what we are,
We're the relay stations. So we do play a role
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in the in the creation in terms of belonging or
being part of that stream of a stream of consciousness.
Now that can happen at different levels. Sometimes with highly
developed people, it can be more with other people. You know,
it's less conscious, but it's still part of the conscious stream.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
So we are using our brains wrong from what you're saying,
and we're trying to make a generator out of what
should be a transmitter and receiver.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Well I think that, yeah, Well, certainly we do use
our brains wrong in a lot of ways. I Mean,
the astonishing thing about existence is that atoms are only
one percent mass and they're ninety nine percent energy. In space,
we concentrate on the one percent that's the mass, to
the ignorance of the ninety nine percent, which means that
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we think we perceive ourselves as physical beings in an
objective world, when really what we are is projections electrochemical
projections of subatomic particles that are moving at rapid paces
all around. And you know, we find ourselves in these
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kinds of energy fields. Were almost like a blip and
an energy field, a blemish in an energy field, and
we're like a little pocket or cul de sact, and
we experience our reality within that cul de sac without
seeing the highway. You know that the cul de sact
is off.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Of So if everything expresses occurring to frequency, what happens
when that frequency changes.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Depends. If it changes, If it lowers, it's not so good.
If the frequency raises, it's better. I mean, the whole
idea of raising frequency can be synonymous with raising your
consciousness and understanding frequencies. And I mean, there are certain
frequencies that people use for healing. Was it four hundred
and thirty two hertz and five hundred and twenty eight
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herds and so forth. I mean there is something to that.
I mean, the human body on average resonates to you know,
some of these frequencies, but those frequencies can be raised.
And the more I think a person, let's say, has
a spiritual practice and they are in touch with higher
sources of intelligence, which is really what we do when
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when we express these phenomenas like medical readings and you know,
other things that we call psychic or spiritual. Essentially we're
contacting you know, higher sources of consciousness that are flowing
through us and you know, causing what we uh, you know,
what we could characterize as higher vibrations or higher consciousness.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Is it higher or is it more expansive?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I think that's we think of We think of.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Higher and lower. As you know, it's pretty one directional.
I was wondering if it's if it's more expansive, we
actually increase our perception both directions.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I would say I would agree.
I think it's a little bit semantic. When I say higher,
I also mean expansive. To me, there's to me, they're synonymous.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
That's that's kind of what I thought when I was
listening to you, so if we're addressing life as being
simply an expression of frequency, do we have any control
over it?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Yes, I think you do have control over it. Again,
it really depends on the level of consciousness that we have.
So you know, some people live in the basement and
they go to work, you know, they go out with
the family, they do things. They don't really think a
whole lot about other issues about what existence might be,
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about the nature reality. Other people live up in the
penthouse and they've maybe thought these things through and actually
have gone to the point where they're actually experiencing things.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Because we're going to have to experience a station break,
Peter and I will be back very shortly to continue
this conversation, so don't go away. This is Mission Evolution
www dot Mission evolution dot org. Does quantum physics have
spiritual foundations with us? Is Peter Kevina. Peter is the
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author of many books, including the First Soul's Trilogy and
Quantum Spirituality. His website is Peter Kanoba dot com. Peter,
what does spirituality and quantum physics have to do with
each other?
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Well, I think, as I mentioned at the beginning, they
both deal substantially with light, matter and energy. And understanding
those phenomena, because those three things make up the reality
that we know, and that's really the quest of both
at the end of the day, is understanding the interplays
of those factors.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Is it being brought forth? I mean, is our whole
life metaphorical and allegorical? Trying to make the mind doesn't
grock the quantum level? Right? So are these religious allegories
and stuff, or I should say spiritual allegories and stories
and fables? Is that the translation point?
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Well, I think that there's the Gnostics that which was
the ancient Judeo Christian mystical group that I've studied quite
a bit. I think they pretty much had it, kind
of had it all together because they made a differentiation
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between knowledge. There's knowledge which is factual, book learning, listening
to you and I conversing, that's a form of knowledge.
But the knowledge that they talked about was experiential. And
what that really means is there was a point in
their spiritual practice whether they were actually in contact with
more of this source information or higher sources of information.
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So I think that every human being has an opportunity
to experience that. It's sort of like listening to a
radio station all your life, and you know, you get
a lot of static, but all of a sudden, if
you keep tuning the dial, you hit that one informative
station that comes through loud and clearing. You knew that
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it was on there twenty four to seven all along,
it was there, you just weren't. So that's kind of
how I look at it.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
So the if you're tuning in is it people talk
a lot about the Akashak records? Is is it related
to that in some way?
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Well, the contact records, as it was talked about in
most spiritual texts, was sort of almost like a personal diary,
a record of individual experience. And I guess you could
say collectively collectively speaking, So I guess you could say
there was a collective aspect to it. And what that
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really implies is that there are higher versions of ourselves
and that obviously we're trying to experience something, and you know,
experience things in experience can take different forms. So you know,
you could call us spirit seeking a human experience, a
physical experience, and that the experience in that life, or
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any particular life is retained in the energetic field. And
they they say, although I've never really I can't say
that I personally viewed of my Akashak records, but the
spiritual wisdom says that it actually is there for souls,
you know, to access, and it kind of would make
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sense in the way. I mean, if we're trying to
make sense out of life, and you believe, let's say
in that life continues, people get reincarnated, people go to
other realms of experience and everything else. You know, it
kind of makes sense that there would be a diary
of all this, you know, where you know you can
look back and reflect and say, hey, I might have
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done something differently, or I might want to try a
different place to go. That it kind of makes sense
to me.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Is the higher self you spoke over our higher aspect?
Are we just like a continuum actually a frequency, some
of which was able to incarnate here, but the rest
is still in existence.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
I believe that. Yeah, I believe. I believe very often
when we talk about speaking to higher consciousness, we're speaking
to our higher selves. And I do believe we're multi
dimensional creatures and we existed at different levels of what
we call reality or different realms or spheres of existence simultaneously.
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I personally believe that do you.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Think that there's something going on the planet right now,
like where we are in a galaxy bringing up frequency
or whatever that's making our higher selves more available to us.
At this point, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
If there's anything in particular going on now that wasn't
all was going on? You know, I think that you know,
they're probably are events and points in history that happen
were maybe the channel becomes clearer, or more people become
more seeking or involved in general. I mean, you can
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certainly say that primitive humans probably didn't have the kind
of discussions that we're having, and you know, they were
more you know, they were more concerned with survival, not
getting eaten by a say, we're tooth tiger. I think
as civilization advances and people have to worry less about
survival issues, that they have more time to devote to
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understandings and thoughts of what's this all about? Why are
we here? What's our purpose? Those kind of questions.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Contemplating the universe, if you will, Speaking of which, what
is the electric universe?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Well, I think that it gets back to what we
talked about with the sub atomic particles carrying information. All
existence is made possible by photons of light, which are
particles of light, and these the very fact that you
and I are talking, our images are appearing on the
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screen to ourselves and to your listeners, is the product
of light. It's the product of photons moving through fiber
optic cables in binary strings of you know, ones and
ones and zeros. Quantum computing, which people may have heard of,
is actually a way of loading information onto sub atomic
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particles that are entangled in such a way that they
can do calculations far more rapidly than the conventional computers
that we're using right now. But if you really understand
that the life is encoded in these algorithms in sub
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atomic particles, and you understand that energy is matter, which
is what equals MC squared tells us that matter is
simply energy vibrating and matter is simply energy vibrating at
a low rate of freequency. So that really what we
really are is energetic beings. We are projections of a
more fundamental energy, And that really raises the questions of
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you know, are we really living in a hologram? Are
we living in a simulated world? Which I very much
believe we are. To me, it's almost like the if
you watch the old Star Trek show where they had
the holodeck where the crew used to go for recreation,
and the holographic projections were so vivid and so real
that the crew could interact with them and you could
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actually become lost, so that the programmers forgot that they
were programmers and thought they were part of the program.
I kind of think that's what's happened to us.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
So who generates the hologram that creates a reality.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Well, I think that the universal consciousness generates, you know,
the template for all this, and then we do participate,
I think, in somewhat shaping that program, either conscious or
unconscious levels, collective levels or you know, individual levels, but
certainly you know, as part of a as part of
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a collective so that I always I always look at
it this way. The universal consciousness, of the supreme consciousness
has projected a Shmorgas board of possibilities, and we kind
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of pick and choose, you know, from that buffet how
we experience things, and our collective experience, as in human
beings supposedly in a solid objective world, was part of
the choice that we made out of that smortgage board.
But remember what it's all about it's really we are
electrical beings. We're a collection of sub atomic particles that
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are not solid, that there's a lot of space between them,
they're moving around, and yet somehow we have this perception
that's completely different. We think of ourselves as something objective,
as something solid, whereas if you really really look into
the quantum world, you know, we're more like projections on
a movie screen.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
If we're that mobile malleable. Could this possibly be the
answer to health problems and disease within the physical body?
Does it? Does it go back down to belief systems
and framing that.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Look, there's certainly a connection between the beliefs and emotions
of people and the frequencies at which they vibrate and health.
If you, I mean, you can do a simple experiment.
If you sit there and think of all the negative
things in the world, you're not going to feel very good.
You know, you're going to feel depressed. You might get
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a headache, you know, it might lose your appetite. You know,
it leads leads into you know, different forms of you know, depression.
Whereas if you concentrate more on the possibilities of life
and you understand that there is a source out there
that you are part of, and it's the source that
created the universe and everything. We know that. That's a
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very uplifting and healthful thought. I mean, in a lot
of ways, that's the basis of religion, isn't it That
it's kind of the one good thing about religion is
that it says there is an afterlife, there is an
existence out there, There is a source out there that
is good and that wants to experience life in all
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of its variety. And you know, I always liken it
to if you have a mountain stream way up in
the mountains, and it's pure water and it flows down
the side of the mountain, and as it flows down
the side of the mountain, it picks up a certain
amount of impurities until it reaches the bottom and it's
kind of muddy. Okay, well, we're kind of at the bottom.
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We're kind of in the mud, so we don't really
see the pureness of the source itself. But if we
somehow were able to change that and perceive that, that
would raise our vibration, raise our understanding that at the
heart of things there is a pure, good source.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Do you think that consciousness and purposefulness in what we
are thinking, expressing, perceiving is the key to having some
kind of control over what we're manifesting.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Well, it certainly helps. I don't know that it's the
be all and end all, but I think it certainly helps.
You know, the road, the path to so called enlightenment
or at least a higher level of consciousness, could start
in so many different ways. For some people like me,
it was a spontaneous awakening, probably more the exception than
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the rule. For a lot of people, they just simply
have to hit rock bottom and you know, I can't
really take this anymore. There's got to be something better.
I'm either going to check out or I have to
change to I have to reconcile my existence here with
something that is better than what I'm seeing. And then
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they start off on the path to solving their problems.
They stop taking drugs, they stop drinking, they start to
you know, study consciousness of you know, look, many people
become born again Christians, and I have no problem with that.
You know, for people that are in a state of
desperate existence, I mean it's a it's a step upward.
So you know, there's different paths to all that's happening.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Though, so the proverbial dark Knight of the soul motivates
people to reframe their existence.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
For many people, it does. For some people, they're not
going to make it, unfortunately. But but I think, but
I think for many people, you have to go through
those knocks to get to that awakening and say there's
got to be something more, because most of us are
sleep walking. I mean, you know, we go to work,
we go to restaurants, we have sex, we go out
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with our kids. I mean, you know, everyday existence, and
you don't really question very much. You walk around in
a state of blind acceptance. Okay, this is life, That's
what it is it. You know, just one thing after
another hits me. But if you don't accept that, and
you start to really study in earnest what life might
be about, and you listen to shows like yours, or
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you read books like mine, or you know, you start
somehow a spiritual practice, whatever, whatever you do, you're on
the road already. If you do those things and you
have that heartfelt desire to change, you're already on the
road to something better.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Well, it's time for us to take another station break.
Peter and I will be right back to continue our discussion.
Stay right there. This is Mission Evolution www dot Mission
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information and real is Peter Canova his website Petercanova dot com. Peter,
let's go back. You mentioned DNA, universal DNA and personal
DNA and what's the difference and where do they come from.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Well, I think that DNA obviously contains the information that
gives form to our physical bodies, and the subatomic particles
that I talked about operate like a form of DNA
because they have the information the algorithms that give shape
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to reality in general, everything that we experience. Now, there
was a very interesting experiment back in the nineties by
a Russian scientist named Vladimir Popenan, and he created a
vacuum tube and inside the vacuum tube they had photons
or particles of light, which was the only thing in there. Okay,
that's what vacuums are. He eliminated everything else and these
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photons are like, we're in there. The next thing he
did was he introduced human DNA in there. So the
photons literally formed around the human DNA and they took
on the helix shape of the DNA. When he removed
the DNA, the photons remained in the shape of the helix,
in the shape of the DNA. So what happened there, Well,
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it indicates that there are levels of information and conscious intelligence,
and both the DNA, which is a tissue, and the
more finer sub atomic particles of photons, there was an
exchange of information there. These things just don't happen randomly.
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There was some attraction of what was the attraction. The
attraction had to be based on the information that was
contained both in the sub atomic particles of the DNA itself.
So what it really shows is, in my mind, building
blocks we start off. Let's just take example biological life,
human bodies. You have atoms, you have molecules, you have elements,
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you have single cells. Single cells form tissues, tissues form organs,
and then organs eventually form you know, the conscious, the
biologically conscious human body. I think that it works the
same way at the sub atomic levels, that sub atomic
particles aggregate into more and more complex structures, and those
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structures contain higher levels of consciousness. So that's why a
rock is conscious, but it's not as conscious as a
human being. It's it's it's different levels and complexities of
being able to, you know, ascertain and discern things and
so forth. But there's a movement now in science called panpsychism,
and more and more scientists are starting to believe that
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everything is conscious, that essentially the world, the universe creation
is all like a conscious projection rather than a mechanical system.
More and more scientists are really subscribing to that belief.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
So is does that mean that reality is actually a
form of resonance.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
I think that it's fair to say that the way
that everything operates the universe is electric, and everything operates
off of electromagnetic forces, and those forces are present in
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everything every every aspect of of of existence. I mean,
just the way set atomic particles our presence every aspect
of existence. Light energy is presence in every aspect of existence.
So how do we get from the quantum world to
the world that we perceive? There? There's there's the trick
right there, because the quantum world is is very different
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what I believe and what I have seen and what
indications and new discoveries and science are telling us is
that we are living essentially in a virtual reality. We're
like a giant we like a giant computer projection that
these sub atomic particles actually form the apparently physical world
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that we perceive, just the way that the sub atomic
particles are producing the images that you and I are
seeing right now on the computer, the universe does. And
more and more scientists have seen that the universe does
operate more like a computer. And there's a physicist in
the UK named Melvin Vobson, and mister Bobson is actually
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doing a whole line of study on this. He absolutely
believes that sub atomic particles are really a network that
forms the physical medium that we experience, and he's published
research on it, and he believes that this is the
building block of universe that we operate like a giant computer.
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So other prominent scientists have really, you know, supported this
and believe it or not. I mean, I don't want
it to take up a lot of time to get
into this, but one of the ways they're they're proving
out the whole idea that we may be living in
a hologram is through the study of black holes. And really,
I mean I can touch on that if you want
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and take a minute or till to do that.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
It's it's fascinating.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Go ahead, okay. So what they were studying black holes,
and what they found out was that the information inside
a black hole is not what constitutes a black hole.
In other words, the information is not held on the
inside of the black hole. It's actually outside on the
horizon and it's projected inwards. So let me give you
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an analogy, so that makes sense to you. It would
be like if you had a bucket and say we
could put the earth in the bucket. Okay, So the
earth is all the information that makes up the earth,
you know, is inside this bucket, and that's what we perceive, okay.
But the information is not inside the bucket. The information
is outside the bucket, on the side of the pail,
and it's being projected inward. So it's actually a two
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like a two dimensional screen cosmic screen, projecting inwards to
form a three dimensional image. So when they study black holes,
they said, wow, they said, you know, this is the
way black holes are. It seems that the universe itself
could be operating the same way that essentially, we have
information that's coming from the outside that is being projected
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inward and that forms our perception of reality. Now it
gets into rather complex things, like the whole universe is
surrounded by sheets of energy called plank lengths. Think of
as a quilt that surrounds all reality, all the known universe.
We are surrounded by this quilt of patchwork, it's called
plank lengthes like individual little pieces the form of patchwork,
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and that reality is projected in through that two dimensional
patchwork into what we call three dimensional existence. What we
perceive is three dimensional existence. So the more science looks
at these various natural phenomenon, the more they're seeing that
they operate at a macro level like a giant hologram.
And then you have, you know, the fact, like we
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said that sub atomic particles project information and images that
hold information that we're looking at on a computer screen.
So at the micro level, it's looking the same way.
So the indications are we're kind of like on a
big movie, who's.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Writing the script? I want to know?
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Yeah, well, hopefully somebody who has our interests in mine
at heart, So.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
We can hope for that. So you speak of the
universe as being intelligent, and of course we can relate
that to God or spirit or higher source or whatever.
But what is the source? I mean, if you're looking
at scientifically, what is the source of this pure information
that comes through?
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Well, we don't really, We can't really say it from
a scientific standpoint because nobody understands what energy is. Intelligence
is energy. The source is energy. It's pure, it's it's
the pure primordial energy. But nobody really knows what energy is. Now.
Science can manipulate it, they can use it for certain things,
but they have no idea what energy is. Ask a scientist, well,
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can you tell me what energy is that? If they're honest,
they'll say, no, we have no idea. What is no clue?
But what what? What we can what we can say
from a theoretical standpoint in science, and from the point
of view of what we know from ancient spiritual texts,
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is that it is an intelligent energy that is seeking
expression in all forms of existence, including physical form. Think
of it this way. If God all by all indications,
both on the quantum side and the spiritual side, God
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or the supreme Source is said to be static and unchanging, Okay,
it's eternal, static and unchanging, all right, But when you
think about it, that way. It's kind of a boring
state of existence, isn't it. It's like being but not experiencing.
So the whole idea of projecting its energy or consciousness
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out into various forms is to be able to experience,
to have experience in different worms. But it's a really
a little bit of a of an illusion. It's really maya.
It's really a smoke and mirrors thing because in a way,
in order for something that is everything to feel like
it's something, it has to dumb itself down because the
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something that the everything can't really be the something because
it's the everything, and something is included in the everything.
So it's almost like a little bit of an amnesia.
And that's that's where the frequency aspect comes. And remember
that formula E equals HF I told you about so
E is energy. H means it's constant, universal and unchanging. However, F,
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when you introduce F a frequency, it means it's lowering
its consciousness. It means it's lowering its vibration to a
point where it can think of itself as something independent,
as something separate. It's something different from the everything. But
it really, ultimately, isn't it all a kind of like
a form of illusion. It's it's like an electric smoke
and like, you know, mirror show, because really we are
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we are, believe it or not, and I know it
certainly doesn't seem like that, but we are that source energy.
We're just we're just vibrating in a much lower frequency.
You know, if we really had pure conscious revelation, we
wouldn't be individuals. We'd be absorbed right back into the
source of where we came from. So we're we're we're
sitting here thinking what we are that we're really not.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
So I want to back up just a little bit.
We have a little time lifting this segment, and I'd
like to touch in on Okay, so you had this
amazing awakening whereby you started giving all these esoteric, if
you will, abilities, What were you tuning into?
Speaker 3 (39:13):
I wasn't. I really wasn't. I guess the only thing
I could say is that I was one of these
people that always had a curiosity about the world, okay,
and what why are we here? I was one of
the big, big picture kind of people, you know, always
asking the deep questions, you know, what's our purpose here?
Why are we here? The world just didn't make sense
to me. It didn't make any sense to me at all.
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And I guess you could say from that standpoint, I
was seeking, and you know, what was the old adage,
seek and you shall you know, be able, you shall find, uh,
you know? And I really I was seeking and I
found and the finding was, you know, was rather you know,
spontaneous and startling to me. And you know, I never
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looked back from that point on, because I really discovered
another world and I have one foot in that and
one foot in this. And that's hard for anybody to
understand unless they've actually had that experience themselves. But once
you've had that experience and you know there's another dimension
or other dimensions of existence out there, you own it. Okay,
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that But but see that's where I got back into
the distinction that the Gnostics made of different types of knowledge.
I can tell you this, but you can't really understand
it unless your experience. I can tell you that fire burns,
but unless you put that hand in the fire and
get the heat, you don't really know that for sure. Right.
So that that that that I think is the difference
between people who have had, you know, these experiences and
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people who haven't. But everybody's capable of having it. I
want to I want to make that clear that you know,
I'm not a special exception. Nobody is a special exception.
We all have the capability of having these experiences.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Well, white all consid I saw more than I understood,
and I understood more than I can say. That kind
of fits right in there, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
I think that there's a merit in that.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Yeah, just a little bit. Well, it's about time for
us to take another station break. On the other side,
we'll get into more of this fun stuff. Please state
with This is Peter and I continue to explore the
underpinings of reality. This is Mission Evolution www dot Mission
evolution dot org. How can we find the source of reality?
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And if we do, what do we find there? This
is such a thing. This is Mission Evolution, Mission evolution
dot org. We're continuing our discussion with Peter Kavanaugh his
website Petercavanaugh dot com. Peter, it seems like, you know,
the sages of old have always been trying to find
the source of knowledge, the source of love. Where does
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love fit in here?
Speaker 3 (41:49):
Well, I mean, I think I think that love is
sort of an underlying principle, an archetype of the universe
that I always assume that the source was love in
the sense that it wanted to experience, and it kind
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of divided itself up or broke itself off into different
particles let's call them. And the particles could include us,
that it could include spiritual beings that aren't incarnate it's
another word, different forms of life, different forms of being,
and it had to really love those because it was
loving itself. I mean, I think at the highest state
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of existence where they talk about you know, angelic realms
and everything else, you know, it is pure love. It
is pure joy, just wanting to experience. It just doesn't
seem like that to us because we've gone so far
out in the limb, we've gone so far away from
the source that, you know, we get disconnected. And when
you get disconnected, that's where you really start to have problems.
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And if you get extremely disconnected, that leads to what
we call evil because you don't have a sense of
your unity with others and and other things and nature
and so forth and so on, and you get so
disconnected that you have the capability of harming others. So
obviously there's there's all degrees in that, I mean not
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not everybody that does something bad as an evil person,
you know, so that there's there's there's all shades of that.
But I think ultimately it's about the separation from the
source and the ignorance of the source that we come
from that leads us, leads us astray. But I think
at at its heart, at its at its highest level,
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it's just about wanting the joy of experience.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
So as I'm hearing you, I'm kind of getting this
mental image, which is always a scary thing for me,
but of us starting as total unity and love, if
you will, and then differentiating down until we have individuals
walking around on the planet living our lives, and yet
we spend the rest of our lives a lot of
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us trying to walk that staircase back up. What's the
purpose there?
Speaker 3 (44:10):
You know? To me, I've always felt that the jail
Christian image of human beings was rather lowly. That you know,
we were these sinners that ticked off God, and now
you know we're running around this insane asylum forever trying
to get in his good graces. My experience is a
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higher purpose to humanity. I believe we're the fingers of
God touching the face of this world, and our purpose
is to spiritualize the material and to bring the experience
of the material back to spirit, so that we're really
the bridge between the energetic world, the unseen dimensions, and
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the world of seeming physicality and materiality. I mean, it
certainly is something when immaterial spirit can have the experience
of being physical, you know, as vividly as we're experiencing it.
I mean, for all intents and purposes, we think of
ourselves as completely solid three D objects in the three
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D world, when that's not what we are. I mean,
I mean, very simple quantum physics tells us that that's
not what we are. We're blips. We're energy, and we're
blips in an energy feel. Like I said, we're in
this cul de sac. You know, we're under certain conditions,
the energy comes into particle form and we believe we're
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something that we're really not. And if we get out
of that cul de sact and go back on the
energy highway, we start to see more of what reality is.
And I think when we talk about enlightenment, it's kind
of like getting out of that called this that and
getting back on the freeway there you know, the energy
freeway where we really start to understand that everything really
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is energy, everything really is motion, everything really is space,
and we're just a particular manifestation for a temporary period
of time within that energetic.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
Framework, and yet we're part of the whole for eternity absolutely.
So let's this is a little change of pace. But
you know, there's a lot of talk right now about timelines,
and you talked about how the Source has this schmorgusboard
that we can choose from. How does that interface with
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the concept of timelines.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
Well, I think at the highest level of existence, there's
no such thing as time. Time when you think of it,
too necessary things to have the illusion experience the illusion
of physical reality or time and space. I always view
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the universe is like frames in the film, and the
way the way the static and the unchanging create the
illusion of something that is going through time and going
through motion is by breaking itself up into frames or snapshots.
(47:21):
And you know, just like you would run a frame
of film through a projector of light, and God is
light and light is you know, everything we know. We
time serves the function of giving us interludes that we
can experience ourselves as physical beings moving through a physical world,
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so that you remember, you can you can talk about
his picture frames. But when I was a kid, we
used to have those little flip books, you remember, remember those,
and you flip in the individual pages. Well, each of
those was static, but when you ran them through that sequence,
which was time, time into right, it made it look
like motion. It made it look real, It made it
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look like an illusion. And I think at a cosmic level,
that's kind of I believe that's kind of the way
it works.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
So the but what what can constitute the photographs? I mean,
the still shuts? Who creates those? And can they be shuffled?
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Well, again, I think the basic template for all reality
is the mind of God, the mind of the supreme being,
that that that creates these things, creates the possibilities. Okay,
I don't, I don't. I don't necessarily believe that everything
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is is fixed, that it's one way, it's mechanical. I
believe it's all in the quantum world is all about possibilities.
So I believe that there's all kinds of possible existence
out there, and we just chose one particular, you know,
one particular form of it. So within the at arena,
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let's say, of possibility of material possibility. We have a
certain amount of choice of what we can experience in there.
But it's so kind of like the schmorgasboard. I think
the Shmorgags board is laid out, you go up to
the table and you kind of, you know, pick and choose,
you know, what you're going to experience. So I think
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the supreme source kind of creates the shmortgage board. We
we kind of you know, have some control in terms
of what we what we choose to experience.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
That being the case, it would make a lot of
sense to become more conscious so we can consciously choose
what we're experiencing, wouldn't it.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
Oh? Absolutely, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean personally, I'd rather
get more in the side of the creator of the
shmortgage board than the guy than the person that's that's
imbibing there. But yeah, no, that would absolutely be true.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
I can't believe the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
Right, Yeah, when we get intogestion from it usually.
Speaker 2 (49:59):
Yeah, absolutely, get greedy in there. You have it. So,
how when we talk about consciousness and you were talking
about information, how do the two of them relate?
Speaker 3 (50:14):
Well, information essentially is the algorithms or the set of
instructions that consciousness embodies physically in the subatomic particles, which
in turn, as we discussed, a kind of like the
DNA that create the phenomenal world. So, you know, information
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is conveyed by energy, but it's energy with an intelligent
purpose and direction behind it. That's why I call it algorithmic.
You know, it's not just raw data information, it's information
that contains sequences that produce end results.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
And do These sequences obviously must change over time, even
though the source doesn't change over time. And that's why
we see the changes that we're experiencing in our world,
in our way of thinking, in our way of viewing things.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
Well, I think I think that as conscious beings, what
what really changes is us and what really changes is
our consciousness and how how we want to you know,
experience this world. Again, you know, getting back to the
idea of this mortgage board, the the the the algorithms
that created that smortgage board or that buffet lays it out,
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and you know, we have we have the choice of
how we want to experience that. And that's where our
individual will, our individual consciousness comes into beings. So you
know sometimes, you know, getting back to this smortgage board example,
which is the easiest way to illustrate it. You know,
you might go there for a couple of years and
there's certain foods you like, but then you go, ah,
I've had enough of that. You know, I'm gonna I'm
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going to try something else. I think that's kind of
I think that's kind of the way it works. Our
We have latitude, and we have free will, and we
have choice of what we want to what we want
to experience, and we may leave some experiences behind to
move on to others.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
But it's all within this overlording design that's the comes
from the creator. Yes, pretty fascinating.
Speaker 3 (52:16):
At least that's my view of it. It might it.
Speaker 2 (52:19):
So how does this let's bring this to the pavement,
How does this information help the individual?
Speaker 3 (52:25):
Well, I think in a couple of ways. I mean,
first of all, if you understand the pattern of existence
that you know, it should be comforting for people to
know that there is a supreme consciousness out there and
you can call it God if that makes you feel better.
I mean, there's nothing wrong with that. It's all the
same thing. I think all of us would like to
think that there's a purpose and a source and something
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out there that we derive from, that we're connected to
and that we go back to, and that life is physical.
Life may be finite, but being itself survives physicality. And
I think that's a comforting thought for people. I always
feel sorry for people who are atheists because, honestly, I mean,
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it seems to me like a rather you know, dim existence. Yeah,
I mean, not that they can't make something out of
their lives, but at least for me, that would be,
you know, a rather depressing thought to recognize that there
was a power out there that I was able to
contact and bring information back that normally I should you know,
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wouldn't know. And that proved itself out time after time
in the so called you know, physical or real world
indicated to me that they're they're most definitely is, you know,
is something out there. So I think that's one thing.
I think. The other thing is that when you understand
the operations of reality, it gives you more latitude or
more control over your life. I mean, I've my life
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has been saved by these realizations on a couple of
different occasions, you know, by having premonitions and other things
that literally say my life if I don't think if
I was tuned to that wavelength, that I necessarily would
have had those and I might not be here today.
So you know, I think there's really many benefits to it. Again,
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it's like that analogy I think I gave earlier. You
can live in the basement or you can live in
the penthouse. Okay, when you live in the basement, you
don't see very much. When you live in the penthouse,
you see much more of the panorama of life and experience,
and it's a richer existence.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
Well, unfortunately we are out of time. Peter, thank you
so much for coming on the show and sharing your knowledge.
Our guest is our has been Peter Kavanaugh, the author
of twenty five times award winning for Soul's Trilogy, his
latest book, Quantum Spirituality. To find out more about Peter,
where you can find his books and all he has
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What is reality? It's an age old question, seemingly unanswerable.
This puzzled people for centuries. Is it possible that consciousness, perception,
and frequency are the key? If that's so, do we
have more power over reality than we think? Mission Evolution
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to ponder the nature of reality is Peter Canova. Peter
is a highly successful, multilingual international businessman who, after a
series of life changing spiritual experiences, began studying and writing
on spirituality and consciousness. He's the author of twenty five
(01:21):
times award winning First Soul's Trilogy and has contributed to
the popular Chicken Soup for the Soul series. His latest
book is entitled Quantum Spirituality. His website Petercanova dot com. Peter,
thank you so much for joining us on Mission Evolution.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Nice to be here. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
It's a pleasure. Now I take it you're not a
quantum physicist. How did you become interested in quantum physics
as it relates to spirituality.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Well, when I was in my twenties, I had a
series of very vivid spiritual or psychic experiences rather spontaneously,
and I found out that I was a very accurate
medical intuitive. Once the disbelief of that went to the
back of my mind, I experienced a whole series of
things like psychokinesis, remote viewing, clairvoyance, claire audience, and you know,
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being kind of a ground I'm still kind of a
grounded person, a Capricorn, and I wanted to understand what
were the nuts and bolts behind this, So I started
studying spiritual texts and from that I went to quantum physics,
because the nexus of those two approaches is that they
deal with light, matter, and energy, and that's what reality
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is all about. So the interesting thing is on the
spiritual side, of course, that's a subjective approach to trying
to understand deeper reality. On the quantum physical side, it's
an objective approach using the scientific method, and it's very
interesting to see how they overlap and they head in
the same direction.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
They seem to be on a collision course. They're both
searching for the same thing. And I think someplace in
the middle maybe truth will be found.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
You suppose you know, I agree. I mean, to me,
it's like a roadmap. And you know, most of the
work that I do is really to provide kind of
a roadmap to people. And when you have a map,
you need more than one coordinate. You know, you need
up and down, north and south whatever, in order to
have a correct frame or reference. And I think that's
what quantum physics and spiritual wisdom really do, is that
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it gives us those coordinates and X and y access.
We have a kind of now an arena in which
we can, you know, plot our course and make more
sense about the world.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
So kind of like a triangulation. Yeah, there's you know,
because there's there's we know there's holes in the scientific method.
I mean, the observer effect a loan is enough to
make you cringe. And of course there's whole holes in
the religious approach. If it goes more dogmatic and is
less spiritual so do they kind of filter each other
out when they come together.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Well, I think the limitation of the scientific method is
that it's what is measureable and observable, but not everything
is measurable and observable. Religion and to me, spirituality are
two different things. May be somewhat related, but really two
different things. Religion is dogmatic, and I think religion is
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kind of like a closed box. You know, they want
you in there, and you know, you sort of subscribe
to the rules and okay, you know you're part of
the tribe. Where spirituality is really more open ended. It's
a journey rather than a stop at any particular destination.
And so I think that the great thing about spirituality
and the great spiritual masters of the past is that
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they've been able to go where science can't tread, which
is to penetrate with their mind and thought and connection
to the source intelligence that they can bring back information
that you wouldn't be able to really delve into just
using the confines of the scientific method.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Speaking of which you have a different slant on information,
how would you define information?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Well, I think we need to expand for the average person.
I think we need to expand our idea and what
information is about. I mean, if you ask people what's information,
they probably would say, I don't know, you know, communication,
you know, whatever, have a little bit of a vague
notion to what it is. But in scientific terms, and
not just scientific terms, but in reality, information is much
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more specific. For one thing, information is not abstract. It's physical.
It has mass, It's actually encoded in the subatomic particles
that make up our universe, kind of like DNA that
forms our body. It contains algorithmic type instructions that really
create the variety that we see in the phenomenal world.
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And since that's the case, it really leads to another
very interesting question, which is that, okay, well, you know,
where's that information coming from? Because information implies organization and
implies direction, which in turn applies implies intelligence. So you know,
we now start to say, oh, okay, you know, there's
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a source perhaps of of intelligence that is producing all
this information which makes up the physical and the energetic worlds.
You know. In fact, it's a very very interesting If
I could just share with you a quote from Max Planck,
who is the founder of quantum physics back at the
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turn of the century. To me, I mean this guy.
This guy, to me is right up there with Einstein.
I mean, he really was the one who brought the
whole idea of understanding light energy in the quantum age
to science. And Plank said, I can tell you, as
a result of my research about the atoms this much.
There is no matter as such. There is no matter
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as such. All matter originates and exists only by virtue
of a force or energy which brings the particles of
an atom to by behind the existence of all matter
is a conscious, intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix
of all matter. So this is pretty astounding because what
he's really saying is there's really no such thing as
physical reality, and at the deepest levels in the quantum world,
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there are no particles. All there are waves of energy.
So Plank is saying that this energy is an intelligent
energy and it's the source of everything we see with
variations of frequency to it. And he had a formula
for that, which I'm happy to talk about. But anyway,
that's so.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
We have an intelligent universe, just as I always expected.
This is too much to be random, right yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yeah, And you know, Plank had an equation which I
think is probably the most important equation in science. I
put it up, I rank it above equals mc squared
and it's a very simple, elegant formula E equals HF.
Now E is energy. The source energy H means it's constant,
it's unchanging, it never changes. What F it means frequency.
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So what it means is the source energy expresses itself
in different frequencies and that gives rise to the variety
of everything that we see. We're actually a play on
a constant on a constant symphonic theme. Different frequencies and
different vibrations of the one universal energy is what really
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creates reality. And that's essentially what plant formula was saying.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
So given that, what do our thoughts do to reality?
That's a force, right.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yeah, Well, if consciousness is everything, and it really is,
there's a whole movement now in science called panpsychism which
is gaining a lot of momentum, believe it or not
amongst a lot of scientists, which is that everything is
conscious and it's just a matter of degree of vibration.
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So a rock contains consciousness. It's not the same degree
of consciousness that we possess, but it is a form
of consciousness which gives it form and gives it characteristics.
So you know this, uh, this idea of that people
are co creators has some merit to it because we
are part of that conscious stream. You know. The way
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I like to think of the GUILDA is the source
consciousness is the uh in an electrical grid, the source
consciousness is the source energy is the source electricity. But
it gets distributed out through relay stations. And you know
we're that kind of tap down the energy to make
it usable for everyday use as well. That's what we are,
We're the relay stations. So we do play a role
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in the in the creation in terms of belonging or
being part of that stream of a stream of consciousness.
Now that can happen at different levels. Sometimes with highly
developed people, it can be more with other people. You know,
it's less conscious, but it's still part of the conscious stream.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
So we are using our brains wrong from what you're saying,
and we're trying to make a generator out of what
should be a transmitter and receiver.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Well I think that, yeah, Well, certainly we do use
our brains wrong in a lot of ways. I Mean,
the astonishing thing about existence is that atoms are only
one percent mass and they're ninety nine percent energy. In space,
we concentrate on the one percent that's the mass, to
the ignorance of the ninety nine percent, which means that
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we think we perceive ourselves as physical beings in an
objective world, when really what we are is projections electrochemical
projections of subatomic particles that are moving at rapid paces
all around. And you know, we find ourselves in these
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kinds of energy fields. Were almost like a blip and
an energy field, a blemish in an energy field, and
we're like a little pocket or cul de sact, and
we experience our reality within that cul de sac without
seeing the highway. You know that the cul de sact
is off.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Of So if everything expresses occurring to frequency, what happens
when that frequency changes.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Depends. If it changes, If it lowers, it's not so good.
If the frequency raises, it's better. I mean, the whole
idea of raising frequency can be synonymous with raising your
consciousness and understanding frequencies. And I mean, there are certain
frequencies that people use for healing. Was it four hundred
and thirty two hertz and five hundred and twenty eight
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herds and so forth. I mean there is something to that.
I mean, the human body on average resonates to you know,
some of these frequencies, but those frequencies can be raised.
And the more I think a person, let's say, has
a spiritual practice and they are in touch with higher
sources of intelligence, which is really what we do when
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when we express these phenomenas like medical readings and you know,
other things that we call psychic or spiritual. Essentially we're
contacting you know, higher sources of consciousness that are flowing
through us and you know, causing what we uh, you know,
what we could characterize as higher vibrations or higher consciousness.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Is it higher or is it more expansive?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I think that's we think of We think of.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Higher and lower. As you know, it's pretty one directional.
I was wondering if it's if it's more expansive, we
actually increase our perception both directions.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I would say I would agree.
I think it's a little bit semantic. When I say higher,
I also mean expansive. To me, there's to me, they're synonymous.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
That's that's kind of what I thought when I was
listening to you, so if we're addressing life as being
simply an expression of frequency, do we have any control
over it?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Yes, I think you do have control over it. Again,
it really depends on the level of consciousness that we have.
So you know, some people live in the basement and
they go to work, you know, they go out with
the family, they do things. They don't really think a
whole lot about other issues about what existence might be,
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about the nature reality. Other people live up in the
penthouse and they've maybe thought these things through and actually
have gone to the point where they're actually experiencing things.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Because we're going to have to experience a station break,
Peter and I will be back very shortly to continue
this conversation, so don't go away. This is Mission Evolution
www dot Mission evolution dot org. Does quantum physics have
spiritual foundations with us? Is Peter Kevina. Peter is the
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author of many books, including the First Soul's Trilogy and
Quantum Spirituality. His website is Peter Kanoba dot com. Peter,
what does spirituality and quantum physics have to do with
each other?
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Well, I think, as I mentioned at the beginning, they
both deal substantially with light, matter and energy. And understanding
those phenomena, because those three things make up the reality
that we know, and that's really the quest of both
at the end of the day, is understanding the interplays
of those factors.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Is it being brought forth? I mean, is our whole
life metaphorical and allegorical? Trying to make the mind doesn't
grock the quantum level? Right? So are these religious allegories
and stuff, or I should say spiritual allegories and stories
and fables? Is that the translation point?
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Well, I think that there's the Gnostics that which was
the ancient Judeo Christian mystical group that I've studied quite
a bit. I think they pretty much had it, kind
of had it all together because they made a differentiation
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between knowledge. There's knowledge which is factual, book learning, listening
to you and I conversing, that's a form of knowledge.
But the knowledge that they talked about was experiential. And
what that really means is there was a point in
their spiritual practice whether they were actually in contact with
more of this source information or higher sources of information.
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So I think that every human being has an opportunity
to experience that. It's sort of like listening to a
radio station all your life, and you know, you get
a lot of static, but all of a sudden, if
you keep tuning the dial, you hit that one informative
station that comes through loud and clearing. You knew that
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it was on there twenty four to seven all along,
it was there, you just weren't. So that's kind of
how I look at it.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
So the if you're tuning in is it people talk
a lot about the Akashak records? Is is it related
to that in some way?
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Well, the contact records, as it was talked about in
most spiritual texts, was sort of almost like a personal diary,
a record of individual experience. And I guess you could
say collectively collectively speaking, So I guess you could say
there was a collective aspect to it. And what that
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really implies is that there are higher versions of ourselves
and that obviously we're trying to experience something, and you know,
experience things in experience can take different forms. So you know,
you could call us spirit seeking a human experience, a
physical experience, and that the experience in that life, or
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any particular life is retained in the energetic field. And
they they say, although I've never really I can't say
that I personally viewed of my Akashak records, but the
spiritual wisdom says that it actually is there for souls,
you know, to access, and it kind of would make
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sense in the way. I mean, if we're trying to
make sense out of life, and you believe, let's say
in that life continues, people get reincarnated, people go to
other realms of experience and everything else. You know, it
kind of makes sense that there would be a diary
of all this, you know, where you know you can
look back and reflect and say, hey, I might have
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done something differently, or I might want to try a
different place to go. That it kind of makes sense
to me.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Is the higher self you spoke over our higher aspect?
Are we just like a continuum actually a frequency, some
of which was able to incarnate here, but the rest
is still in existence.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
I believe that. Yeah, I believe. I believe very often
when we talk about speaking to higher consciousness, we're speaking
to our higher selves. And I do believe we're multi
dimensional creatures and we existed at different levels of what
we call reality or different realms or spheres of existence simultaneously.
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I personally believe that do you.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Think that there's something going on the planet right now,
like where we are in a galaxy bringing up frequency
or whatever that's making our higher selves more available to us.
At this point, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
If there's anything in particular going on now that wasn't
all was going on? You know, I think that you know,
they're probably are events and points in history that happen
were maybe the channel becomes clearer, or more people become
more seeking or involved in general. I mean, you can
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certainly say that primitive humans probably didn't have the kind
of discussions that we're having, and you know, they were
more you know, they were more concerned with survival, not
getting eaten by a say, we're tooth tiger. I think
as civilization advances and people have to worry less about
survival issues, that they have more time to devote to
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understandings and thoughts of what's this all about? Why are
we here? What's our purpose? Those kind of questions.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Contemplating the universe, if you will, Speaking of which, what
is the electric universe?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Well, I think that it gets back to what we
talked about with the sub atomic particles carrying information. All
existence is made possible by photons of light, which are
particles of light, and these the very fact that you
and I are talking, our images are appearing on the
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screen to ourselves and to your listeners, is the product
of light. It's the product of photons moving through fiber
optic cables in binary strings of you know, ones and
ones and zeros. Quantum computing, which people may have heard of,
is actually a way of loading information onto sub atomic
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particles that are entangled in such a way that they
can do calculations far more rapidly than the conventional computers
that we're using right now. But if you really understand
that the life is encoded in these algorithms in sub
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atomic particles, and you understand that energy is matter, which
is what equals MC squared tells us that matter is
simply energy vibrating and matter is simply energy vibrating at
a low rate of freequency. So that really what we
really are is energetic beings. We are projections of a
more fundamental energy, And that really raises the questions of
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you know, are we really living in a hologram? Are
we living in a simulated world? Which I very much
believe we are. To me, it's almost like the if
you watch the old Star Trek show where they had
the holodeck where the crew used to go for recreation,
and the holographic projections were so vivid and so real
that the crew could interact with them and you could
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actually become lost, so that the programmers forgot that they
were programmers and thought they were part of the program.
I kind of think that's what's happened to us.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
So who generates the hologram that creates a reality.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Well, I think that the universal consciousness generates, you know,
the template for all this, and then we do participate,
I think, in somewhat shaping that program, either conscious or
unconscious levels, collective levels or you know, individual levels, but
certainly you know, as part of a as part of
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a collective so that I always I always look at
it this way. The universal consciousness, of the supreme consciousness
has projected a Shmorgas board of possibilities, and we kind
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of pick and choose, you know, from that buffet how
we experience things, and our collective experience, as in human
beings supposedly in a solid objective world, was part of
the choice that we made out of that smortgage board.
But remember what it's all about it's really we are
electrical beings. We're a collection of sub atomic particles that
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are not solid, that there's a lot of space between them,
they're moving around, and yet somehow we have this perception
that's completely different. We think of ourselves as something objective,
as something solid, whereas if you really really look into
the quantum world, you know, we're more like projections on
a movie screen.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
If we're that mobile malleable. Could this possibly be the
answer to health problems and disease within the physical body?
Does it? Does it go back down to belief systems
and framing that.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Look, there's certainly a connection between the beliefs and emotions
of people and the frequencies at which they vibrate and health.
If you, I mean, you can do a simple experiment.
If you sit there and think of all the negative
things in the world, you're not going to feel very good.
You know, you're going to feel depressed. You might get
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a headache, you know, it might lose your appetite. You know,
it leads leads into you know, different forms of you know, depression.
Whereas if you concentrate more on the possibilities of life
and you understand that there is a source out there
that you are part of, and it's the source that
created the universe and everything. We know that. That's a
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very uplifting and healthful thought. I mean, in a lot
of ways, that's the basis of religion, isn't it That
it's kind of the one good thing about religion is
that it says there is an afterlife, there is an
existence out there, There is a source out there that
is good and that wants to experience life in all
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of its variety. And you know, I always liken it
to if you have a mountain stream way up in
the mountains, and it's pure water and it flows down
the side of the mountain, and as it flows down
the side of the mountain, it picks up a certain
amount of impurities until it reaches the bottom and it's
kind of muddy. Okay, well, we're kind of at the bottom.
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We're kind of in the mud, so we don't really
see the pureness of the source itself. But if we
somehow were able to change that and perceive that, that
would raise our vibration, raise our understanding that at the
heart of things there is a pure, good source.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Do you think that consciousness and purposefulness in what we
are thinking, expressing, perceiving is the key to having some
kind of control over what we're manifesting.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Well, it certainly helps. I don't know that it's the
be all and end all, but I think it certainly helps.
You know, the road, the path to so called enlightenment
or at least a higher level of consciousness, could start
in so many different ways. For some people like me,
it was a spontaneous awakening, probably more the exception than
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the rule. For a lot of people, they just simply
have to hit rock bottom and you know, I can't
really take this anymore. There's got to be something better.
I'm either going to check out or I have to
change to I have to reconcile my existence here with
something that is better than what I'm seeing. And then
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they start off on the path to solving their problems.
They stop taking drugs, they stop drinking, they start to
you know, study consciousness of you know, look, many people
become born again Christians, and I have no problem with that.
You know, for people that are in a state of
desperate existence, I mean it's a it's a step upward.
So you know, there's different paths to all that's happening.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Though, so the proverbial dark Knight of the soul motivates
people to reframe their existence.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
For many people, it does. For some people, they're not
going to make it, unfortunately. But but I think, but
I think for many people, you have to go through
those knocks to get to that awakening and say there's
got to be something more, because most of us are
sleep walking. I mean, you know, we go to work,
we go to restaurants, we have sex, we go out
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with our kids. I mean, you know, everyday existence, and
you don't really question very much. You walk around in
a state of blind acceptance. Okay, this is life, That's
what it is it. You know, just one thing after
another hits me. But if you don't accept that, and
you start to really study in earnest what life might
be about, and you listen to shows like yours, or
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you read books like mine, or you know, you start
somehow a spiritual practice, whatever, whatever you do, you're on
the road already. If you do those things and you
have that heartfelt desire to change, you're already on the
road to something better.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Well, it's time for us to take another station break.
Peter and I will be right back to continue our discussion.
Stay right there. This is Mission Evolution www dot Mission
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information and real is Peter Canova his website Petercanova dot com. Peter,
let's go back. You mentioned DNA, universal DNA and personal
DNA and what's the difference and where do they come from.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Well, I think that DNA obviously contains the information that
gives form to our physical bodies, and the subatomic particles
that I talked about operate like a form of DNA
because they have the information the algorithms that give shape
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to reality in general, everything that we experience. Now, there
was a very interesting experiment back in the nineties by
a Russian scientist named Vladimir Popenan, and he created a
vacuum tube and inside the vacuum tube they had photons
or particles of light, which was the only thing in there. Okay,
that's what vacuums are. He eliminated everything else and these
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photons are like, we're in there. The next thing he
did was he introduced human DNA in there. So the
photons literally formed around the human DNA and they took
on the helix shape of the DNA. When he removed
the DNA, the photons remained in the shape of the helix,
in the shape of the DNA. So what happened there, Well,
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it indicates that there are levels of information and conscious intelligence,
and both the DNA, which is a tissue, and the
more finer sub atomic particles of photons, there was an
exchange of information there. These things just don't happen randomly.
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There was some attraction of what was the attraction. The
attraction had to be based on the information that was
contained both in the sub atomic particles of the DNA itself.
So what it really shows is, in my mind, building
blocks we start off. Let's just take example biological life,
human bodies. You have atoms, you have molecules, you have elements,
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you have single cells. Single cells form tissues, tissues form organs,
and then organs eventually form you know, the conscious, the
biologically conscious human body. I think that it works the
same way at the sub atomic levels, that sub atomic
particles aggregate into more and more complex structures, and those
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structures contain higher levels of consciousness. So that's why a
rock is conscious, but it's not as conscious as a
human being. It's it's it's different levels and complexities of
being able to, you know, ascertain and discern things and
so forth. But there's a movement now in science called panpsychism,
and more and more scientists are starting to believe that
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everything is conscious, that essentially the world, the universe creation
is all like a conscious projection rather than a mechanical system.
More and more scientists are really subscribing to that belief.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
So is does that mean that reality is actually a
form of resonance.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
I think that it's fair to say that the way
that everything operates the universe is electric, and everything operates
off of electromagnetic forces, and those forces are present in
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everything every every aspect of of of existence. I mean,
just the way set atomic particles our presence every aspect
of existence. Light energy is presence in every aspect of existence.
So how do we get from the quantum world to
the world that we perceive? There? There's there's the trick
right there, because the quantum world is is very different
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what I believe and what I have seen and what
indications and new discoveries and science are telling us is
that we are living essentially in a virtual reality. We're
like a giant we like a giant computer projection that
these sub atomic particles actually form the apparently physical world
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that we perceive, just the way that the sub atomic
particles are producing the images that you and I are
seeing right now on the computer, the universe does. And
more and more scientists have seen that the universe does
operate more like a computer. And there's a physicist in
the UK named Melvin Vobson, and mister Bobson is actually
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doing a whole line of study on this. He absolutely
believes that sub atomic particles are really a network that
forms the physical medium that we experience, and he's published
research on it, and he believes that this is the
building block of universe that we operate like a giant computer.
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So other prominent scientists have really, you know, supported this
and believe it or not. I mean, I don't want
it to take up a lot of time to get
into this, but one of the ways they're they're proving
out the whole idea that we may be living in
a hologram is through the study of black holes. And really,
I mean I can touch on that if you want
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and take a minute or till to do that.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
It's it's fascinating.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Go ahead, okay. So what they were studying black holes,
and what they found out was that the information inside
a black hole is not what constitutes a black hole.
In other words, the information is not held on the
inside of the black hole. It's actually outside on the
horizon and it's projected inwards. So let me give you
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an analogy, so that makes sense to you. It would
be like if you had a bucket and say we
could put the earth in the bucket. Okay, So the
earth is all the information that makes up the earth,
you know, is inside this bucket, and that's what we perceive, okay.
But the information is not inside the bucket. The information
is outside the bucket, on the side of the pail,
and it's being projected inward. So it's actually a two
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like a two dimensional screen cosmic screen, projecting inwards to
form a three dimensional image. So when they study black holes,
they said, wow, they said, you know, this is the
way black holes are. It seems that the universe itself
could be operating the same way that essentially, we have
information that's coming from the outside that is being projected
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inward and that forms our perception of reality. Now it
gets into rather complex things, like the whole universe is
surrounded by sheets of energy called plank lengths. Think of
as a quilt that surrounds all reality, all the known universe.
We are surrounded by this quilt of patchwork, it's called
plank lengthes like individual little pieces the form of patchwork,
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and that reality is projected in through that two dimensional
patchwork into what we call three dimensional existence. What we
perceive is three dimensional existence. So the more science looks
at these various natural phenomenon, the more they're seeing that
they operate at a macro level like a giant hologram.
And then you have, you know, the fact, like we
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said that sub atomic particles project information and images that
hold information that we're looking at on a computer screen.
So at the micro level, it's looking the same way.
So the indications are we're kind of like on a
big movie, who's.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Writing the script? I want to know?
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Yeah, well, hopefully somebody who has our interests in mine
at heart, So.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
We can hope for that. So you speak of the
universe as being intelligent, and of course we can relate
that to God or spirit or higher source or whatever.
But what is the source? I mean, if you're looking
at scientifically, what is the source of this pure information
that comes through?
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Well, we don't really, We can't really say it from
a scientific standpoint because nobody understands what energy is. Intelligence
is energy. The source is energy. It's pure, it's it's
the pure primordial energy. But nobody really knows what energy is. Now.
Science can manipulate it, they can use it for certain things,
but they have no idea what energy is. Ask a scientist, well,
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can you tell me what energy is that? If they're honest,
they'll say, no, we have no idea. What is no clue?
But what what? What we can what we can say
from a theoretical standpoint in science, and from the point
of view of what we know from ancient spiritual texts,
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is that it is an intelligent energy that is seeking
expression in all forms of existence, including physical form. Think
of it this way. If God all by all indications,
both on the quantum side and the spiritual side, God
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or the supreme Source is said to be static and unchanging, Okay,
it's eternal, static and unchanging, all right, But when you
think about it, that way. It's kind of a boring
state of existence, isn't it. It's like being but not experiencing.
So the whole idea of projecting its energy or consciousness
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out into various forms is to be able to experience,
to have experience in different worms. But it's a really
a little bit of a of an illusion. It's really maya.
It's really a smoke and mirrors thing because in a way,
in order for something that is everything to feel like
it's something, it has to dumb itself down because the
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something that the everything can't really be the something because
it's the everything, and something is included in the everything.
So it's almost like a little bit of an amnesia.
And that's that's where the frequency aspect comes. And remember
that formula E equals HF I told you about so
E is energy. H means it's constant, universal and unchanging. However, F,
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when you introduce F a frequency, it means it's lowering
its consciousness. It means it's lowering its vibration to a
point where it can think of itself as something independent,
as something separate. It's something different from the everything. But
it really, ultimately, isn't it all a kind of like
a form of illusion. It's it's like an electric smoke
and like, you know, mirror show, because really we are
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we are, believe it or not, and I know it
certainly doesn't seem like that, but we are that source energy.
We're just we're just vibrating in a much lower frequency.
You know, if we really had pure conscious revelation, we
wouldn't be individuals. We'd be absorbed right back into the
source of where we came from. So we're we're we're
sitting here thinking what we are that we're really not.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
So I want to back up just a little bit.
We have a little time lifting this segment, and I'd
like to touch in on Okay, so you had this
amazing awakening whereby you started giving all these esoteric, if
you will, abilities, What were you tuning into?
Speaker 3 (39:13):
I wasn't. I really wasn't. I guess the only thing
I could say is that I was one of these
people that always had a curiosity about the world, okay,
and what why are we here? I was one of
the big, big picture kind of people, you know, always
asking the deep questions, you know, what's our purpose here?
Why are we here? The world just didn't make sense
to me. It didn't make any sense to me at all.
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And I guess you could say from that standpoint, I
was seeking, and you know, what was the old adage,
seek and you shall you know, be able, you shall find, uh,
you know? And I really I was seeking and I
found and the finding was, you know, was rather you know,
spontaneous and startling to me. And you know, I never
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looked back from that point on, because I really discovered
another world and I have one foot in that and
one foot in this. And that's hard for anybody to
understand unless they've actually had that experience themselves. But once
you've had that experience and you know there's another dimension
or other dimensions of existence out there, you own it. Okay,
(40:18):
that But but see that's where I got back into
the distinction that the Gnostics made of different types of knowledge.
I can tell you this, but you can't really understand
it unless your experience. I can tell you that fire burns,
but unless you put that hand in the fire and
get the heat, you don't really know that for sure. Right.
So that that that that I think is the difference
between people who have had, you know, these experiences and
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people who haven't. But everybody's capable of having it. I
want to I want to make that clear that you know,
I'm not a special exception. Nobody is a special exception.
We all have the capability of having these experiences.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Well, white all consid I saw more than I understood,
and I understood more than I can say. That kind
of fits right in there, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
I think that there's a merit in that.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Yeah, just a little bit. Well, it's about time for
us to take another station break. On the other side,
we'll get into more of this fun stuff. Please state
with This is Peter and I continue to explore the
underpinings of reality. This is Mission Evolution www dot Mission
evolution dot org. How can we find the source of reality?
(41:25):
And if we do, what do we find there? This
is such a thing. This is Mission Evolution, Mission evolution
dot org. We're continuing our discussion with Peter Kavanaugh his
website Petercavanaugh dot com. Peter, it seems like, you know,
the sages of old have always been trying to find
the source of knowledge, the source of love. Where does
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love fit in here?
Speaker 3 (41:49):
Well, I mean, I think I think that love is
sort of an underlying principle, an archetype of the universe
that I always assume that the source was love in
the sense that it wanted to experience, and it kind
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of divided itself up or broke itself off into different
particles let's call them. And the particles could include us,
that it could include spiritual beings that aren't incarnate it's
another word, different forms of life, different forms of being,
and it had to really love those because it was
loving itself. I mean, I think at the highest state
(42:37):
of existence where they talk about you know, angelic realms
and everything else, you know, it is pure love. It
is pure joy, just wanting to experience. It just doesn't
seem like that to us because we've gone so far
out in the limb, we've gone so far away from
the source that, you know, we get disconnected. And when
you get disconnected, that's where you really start to have problems.
(42:58):
And if you get extremely disconnected, that leads to what
we call evil because you don't have a sense of
your unity with others and and other things and nature
and so forth and so on, and you get so
disconnected that you have the capability of harming others. So
obviously there's there's all degrees in that, I mean not
(43:18):
not everybody that does something bad as an evil person,
you know, so that there's there's there's all shades of that.
But I think ultimately it's about the separation from the
source and the ignorance of the source that we come
from that leads us, leads us astray. But I think
at at its heart, at its at its highest level,
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it's just about wanting the joy of experience.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
So as I'm hearing you, I'm kind of getting this
mental image, which is always a scary thing for me,
but of us starting as total unity and love, if
you will, and then differentiating down until we have individuals
walking around on the planet living our lives, and yet
we spend the rest of our lives a lot of
(44:03):
us trying to walk that staircase back up. What's the
purpose there?
Speaker 3 (44:10):
You know? To me, I've always felt that the jail
Christian image of human beings was rather lowly. That you know,
we were these sinners that ticked off God, and now
you know we're running around this insane asylum forever trying
to get in his good graces. My experience is a
(44:31):
higher purpose to humanity. I believe we're the fingers of
God touching the face of this world, and our purpose
is to spiritualize the material and to bring the experience
of the material back to spirit, so that we're really
the bridge between the energetic world, the unseen dimensions, and
(44:56):
the world of seeming physicality and materiality. I mean, it
certainly is something when immaterial spirit can have the experience
of being physical, you know, as vividly as we're experiencing it.
I mean, for all intents and purposes, we think of
ourselves as completely solid three D objects in the three
(45:20):
D world, when that's not what we are. I mean,
I mean, very simple quantum physics tells us that that's
not what we are. We're blips. We're energy, and we're
blips in an energy feel. Like I said, we're in
this cul de sac. You know, we're under certain conditions,
the energy comes into particle form and we believe we're
(45:46):
something that we're really not. And if we get out
of that cul de sact and go back on the
energy highway, we start to see more of what reality is.
And I think when we talk about enlightenment, it's kind
of like getting out of that called this that and
getting back on the freeway there you know, the energy
freeway where we really start to understand that everything really
(46:06):
is energy, everything really is motion, everything really is space,
and we're just a particular manifestation for a temporary period
of time within that energetic.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
Framework, and yet we're part of the whole for eternity absolutely.
So let's this is a little change of pace. But
you know, there's a lot of talk right now about timelines,
and you talked about how the Source has this schmorgusboard
that we can choose from. How does that interface with
(46:36):
the concept of timelines.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
Well, I think at the highest level of existence, there's
no such thing as time. Time when you think of it,
too necessary things to have the illusion experience the illusion
of physical reality or time and space. I always view
(47:00):
the universe is like frames in the film, and the
way the way the static and the unchanging create the
illusion of something that is going through time and going
through motion is by breaking itself up into frames or snapshots.
(47:21):
And you know, just like you would run a frame
of film through a projector of light, and God is
light and light is you know, everything we know. We
time serves the function of giving us interludes that we
can experience ourselves as physical beings moving through a physical world,
(47:42):
so that you remember, you can you can talk about
his picture frames. But when I was a kid, we
used to have those little flip books, you remember, remember those,
and you flip in the individual pages. Well, each of
those was static, but when you ran them through that sequence,
which was time, time into right, it made it look
like motion. It made it look real, It made it
(48:05):
look like an illusion. And I think at a cosmic level,
that's kind of I believe that's kind of the way
it works.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
So the but what what can constitute the photographs? I mean,
the still shuts? Who creates those? And can they be shuffled?
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Well, again, I think the basic template for all reality
is the mind of God, the mind of the supreme being,
that that that creates these things, creates the possibilities. Okay,
I don't, I don't. I don't necessarily believe that everything
(48:41):
is is fixed, that it's one way, it's mechanical. I
believe it's all in the quantum world is all about possibilities.
So I believe that there's all kinds of possible existence
out there, and we just chose one particular, you know,
one particular form of it. So within the at arena,
(49:02):
let's say, of possibility of material possibility. We have a
certain amount of choice of what we can experience in there.
But it's so kind of like the schmorgasboard. I think
the Shmorgags board is laid out, you go up to
the table and you kind of, you know, pick and choose,
you know, what you're going to experience. So I think
(49:23):
the supreme source kind of creates the shmortgage board. We
we kind of you know, have some control in terms
of what we what we choose to experience.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
That being the case, it would make a lot of
sense to become more conscious so we can consciously choose
what we're experiencing, wouldn't it.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
Oh? Absolutely, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean personally, I'd rather
get more in the side of the creator of the
shmortgage board than the guy than the person that's that's
imbibing there. But yeah, no, that would absolutely be true.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
I can't believe the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
Right, Yeah, when we get intogestion from it usually.
Speaker 2 (49:59):
Yeah, absolutely, get greedy in there. You have it. So,
how when we talk about consciousness and you were talking
about information, how do the two of them relate?
Speaker 3 (50:14):
Well, information essentially is the algorithms or the set of
instructions that consciousness embodies physically in the subatomic particles, which
in turn, as we discussed, a kind of like the
DNA that create the phenomenal world. So, you know, information
(50:35):
is conveyed by energy, but it's energy with an intelligent
purpose and direction behind it. That's why I call it algorithmic.
You know, it's not just raw data information, it's information
that contains sequences that produce end results.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
And do These sequences obviously must change over time, even
though the source doesn't change over time. And that's why
we see the changes that we're experiencing in our world,
in our way of thinking, in our way of viewing things.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
Well, I think I think that as conscious beings, what
what really changes is us and what really changes is
our consciousness and how how we want to you know,
experience this world. Again, you know, getting back to the
idea of this mortgage board, the the the the algorithms
that created that smortgage board or that buffet lays it out,
(51:30):
and you know, we have we have the choice of
how we want to experience that. And that's where our
individual will, our individual consciousness comes into beings. So you
know sometimes, you know, getting back to this smortgage board example,
which is the easiest way to illustrate it. You know,
you might go there for a couple of years and
there's certain foods you like, but then you go, ah,
I've had enough of that. You know, I'm gonna I'm
(51:50):
going to try something else. I think that's kind of
I think that's kind of the way it works. Our
We have latitude, and we have free will, and we
have choice of what we want to what we want
to experience, and we may leave some experiences behind to
move on to others.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
But it's all within this overlording design that's the comes
from the creator. Yes, pretty fascinating.
Speaker 3 (52:16):
At least that's my view of it. It might it.
Speaker 2 (52:19):
So how does this let's bring this to the pavement,
How does this information help the individual?
Speaker 3 (52:25):
Well, I think in a couple of ways. I mean,
first of all, if you understand the pattern of existence
that you know, it should be comforting for people to
know that there is a supreme consciousness out there and
you can call it God if that makes you feel better.
I mean, there's nothing wrong with that. It's all the
same thing. I think all of us would like to
think that there's a purpose and a source and something
(52:48):
out there that we derive from, that we're connected to
and that we go back to, and that life is physical.
Life may be finite, but being itself survives physicality. And
I think that's a comforting thought for people. I always
feel sorry for people who are atheists because, honestly, I mean,
(53:09):
it seems to me like a rather you know, dim existence. Yeah,
I mean, not that they can't make something out of
their lives, but at least for me, that would be,
you know, a rather depressing thought to recognize that there
was a power out there that I was able to
contact and bring information back that normally I should you know,
(53:29):
wouldn't know. And that proved itself out time after time
in the so called you know, physical or real world
indicated to me that they're they're most definitely is, you know,
is something out there. So I think that's one thing.
I think. The other thing is that when you understand
the operations of reality, it gives you more latitude or
more control over your life. I mean, I've my life
(53:52):
has been saved by these realizations on a couple of
different occasions, you know, by having premonitions and other things
that literally say my life if I don't think if
I was tuned to that wavelength, that I necessarily would
have had those and I might not be here today.
So you know, I think there's really many benefits to it. Again,
(54:14):
it's like that analogy I think I gave earlier. You
can live in the basement or you can live in
the penthouse. Okay, when you live in the basement, you
don't see very much. When you live in the penthouse,
you see much more of the panorama of life and experience,
and it's a richer existence.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
Well, unfortunately we are out of time. Peter, thank you
so much for coming on the show and sharing your knowledge.
Our guest is our has been Peter Kavanaugh, the author
of twenty five times award winning for Soul's Trilogy, his
latest book, Quantum Spirituality. To find out more about Peter,
where you can find his books and all he has
to offer, visit his website Peterkavanaugh dot com. This has
(54:52):
been Mission Evolution with Guildowiyeka. For more information or to
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