28 - Franz Ferdinand

This week we learn about the legend of Franz Ferdinand and his cartoon bombs.

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to Mistakes Were Made, apodcast about mistakes made the history, hosted
by a real life middle school historyteacher, me Bobby Smithney. I am
trying to teach my two friends,Michael Kaufman and Robert Bacon. Don't make
fun of me, who probably bothfailed middle school history. Hey, hey,
most true. I think I gota solid See, I made some

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mistakes, Yeah, some mistakes weremade. What are you gonna learn about
today, teacher Bobby? Alright,students today. Well, as I always,
i'd like to not kind of revealexactly what we're gonna be talking about,
kind of slowly reveal it here.So I want to know whether you've
actually we're gonna follow the life ofa particular person, and I want to

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know whether you've ever heard of them. To start with, So it's a
man and his name is gav RioPrince sip no, uh yeah, yeah,
it sounds familiar. And I thinkyou mean George the Prince. Yeah,
George the Prince. Yeah, I'mprobably mangering mangering man marying, Yeah,

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I am probably mangling this appronunciation,So forgive me. Okay, Gavrilo
Princess. So I'd like a guesswhat you think this person might be famous
for this is Prince's cousin. Prince'scousin. That's a great guess. That's
a solid guess, Gavrilo. Isthat what you say, Gavrilo? Yep,
sounds like a mattress. I thinkthat's Jlo's cousin. Heavy on the

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cousin guessing tonight. Yeah, everything, Hey, everybody has a cousin.
Yeah, everyone someone's cousin. Comeon, that's unless unless I have kids,
because I'm an only child. I'llgive you a little bit more information
and you can see if we canguess that we're doing a podcast not about
famous people's cousins. Okada, Forone, he was born in eighteen ninety

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four. Uh, Columbus's cousin.Oh man, you can't even remember the
Columbus sith the Ocean Blue in fourteenninety two. That's failed. We're like
four hundred years off. Okay,I was all right, no, no,
it did have a ninety at itOkay, all right. Socie eighteen

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nineties, eighteen nineties. He wasborn in one of the Slavic countries.
Okay, so it's a it's aSlavic pronunciation. He attended school in Sarajevo,
and he left school in May ofnineteen twelve. Okay, so he
was eighteen. How old is hejust about? Okay, it's it's it's

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around there. Okay. So ha pretty full education for that time.
I mean one time we're usually donewith school. Then like six seven,
we're still in the age like schoolwas not a right. Yes, it's
like, oh, you really needto know someone and have some money and
h and be pretty intelligent to goto school. Well, I'm gonna guess

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that he invented flight and that theright brothers are liars. Oh I'd love
to tell that story, but no, don't, it's a lie. Okay,
all right, I guess from you, Bacon. Oh, I got
another guess of what this guy did. Well, he's well educated, so
and we're talking about him, Soit means he probably gained some sort of
power thinking superhero powers, yes,of laser vision, yeah, he had.

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He had the power of books,and he used it to bore people.
I got nothing. I have noidea to keep going. Yeah,
all right, all right, Sohe was a member of a secret society
illuminating called the Black Hand Society.Oh, the Black Hand Society yeah,

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any any guesses on the Black HandsSociety Chimney sweeps, Yo, it's a
great kid. Yep, yep,yep. What's his face from Mary Poppins
is based on him? Dick vanDyke Vandyke, Dick Vandyke. Yeah,
not the character now, that wasjust Dick van Dyke. It was playing
Dick Vandyk. All right. Whatif I said that thievery? Oh okay,

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okay, so Black Hand society famousfor thievery or getting bit by snakes
in hand Candler? Nope? Whatif I said that M. Gavrilo Princip
was ultimately responsible for the deaths ofmillions of Europeans? Oh no, oh
oh, he's the Black Plague?Got it? Yes, mistakes are made.

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That's the end of the podcasting BlackBlack Hand Touched a long Black just
being willfully wrong, general wrong.I have never been willfully What if I
said he was a famous assassin?Okay? So is this the this is
where Devil O seven comes from?Is this what assassin's creed comes from?
The secret society of See I keepwaiting for you guys to just admit you

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know this, and I'm losing faithin that. I thought, Yeah,
I don't think. Honestly, don'tknow. I don't know why you keep
asking me for a second. Youthink that we're just playing dumb. Well,
we're just dumb. Hey, Bobby, hate to tell you this,
but this isn't an act too muchfaith in your friends. Okay, he

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was a famous assassin, part ofthe Black Hand Society eight highly educated for
the time. Nineteen Yeah, yeah, nineteen twelve. Sla asassination was in
nineteen fourteen. Okay, world WarOne? Yeah, okay, so we're
start, guys, Oh with theassassination of Is this how you teach your

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kids? You just have them guessedthe entire way through? Oh yeah,
give them no knowledge, just untilthey guess the correct answer. Pretty simple.
I think I got it, Bacon, Well, now it's right.
This gentleman was, in fact theTitanic, got it and yes, in
the year, as we all know, nineteen fourteen, Yes, in the
Atlantic Ocean for the win. Nope, he was responsible for the assassination of

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Archduke Franz Ferdinand. Oh he killed. No, they're still alive. I
listened to their music all the timeof the Austrian Hungarian Empire. That's right,
right, Um, So you wantto go. You want to go
through it here, you want tostart walking through his life? I would
love too. Yeah, how doyou get to a point where he's like

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eighteen seven years old and he's nowYeah. So he joined the Black Hand
Society, which was a nationalist movementthat was favoring a union between Bosnia and
Serbia basically Berbia. Yeah, Ibelieve that they were going. They were
testing that, and it just neverdidn't. It didn't take off. A
name to be decided later, buthe was not happy that the Austrian Austria

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Hungary had taken over, right,and so they were basically a province of
that area, and he was nothappy about this. Okay, So he
and a bunch of other people kindof formed a society here, and I
don't want to go through too manydetails, but they had some kind of
nebulous government help, right, alot of like a person who left the

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army and a spy and a coupleothers, and they did kind of inform
some of the government agencies what theydid. They were their plan was to
go to uh. He was shotto death in Sarajevo. So, um,
let's go, let's back it upa little bit so. As I
said, he got an education andhe joined this secret society and they sent

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a number of people to try andkill the Archduke while he was visiting.
Okay, he the Archduke Ferdinand wasactually kind of a cool guy. Um,
yeah, but great, take meout, take me out, yeah,
Franz, Yeah, I hope you'reready for all these jokes. Just
oh, just keep them guys,jokes, got it. So a couple

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of things with arch Duke for aname. One, he is the heir
to the throne of Austria Hungary,and he gave up the right to um
for his children to inherit the lineof secession because he married a commoner.
His wife was someone he just lovedand said I'm going to marry her and

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his father hated her, his wifeSophie. Why and just because she was
a commoner and he would be losinga lot, destroying the family name.
Why yeah, she she was aformer lady in waiting and he was not
having it. I love it.He's like, who is this Sophie of
what? Never heard of her?Sophie of the walmart down the street.
She's just Sophie actually back in theday, man that was not fun.

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Is a lady in waiting mean thather family promised her to another man,
so she had to wait, andthen she fell in love with Frans Franzy
boy, No, no, thefrands A also, next question, did
he do a lot of a andthumb pointing? Absolutely? He was the

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original, you know, he wouldjust say I'm friends, and then they
changed it for that horrible show somany years ago. Bacon, I just
did some quick googling, and Ibelieve a lady in waiting was just um,
a woman who attends a queen orprincess. So the person like the
assistant, the helper to to thequeen or princess. Uh. Teacher,
Bobby, I would like to tattleon Michael Day for googling. I thought

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these these school assigned iPads. Ithought, we're part of the whole point.
We're not supposed to We're supposed tobe learning from the teacher, not
from the Internet. All right,all right, from no more googling,
I promise, I promise. Ihear him googling. I'm not googling anymore.
No more. I hear him.He's he's on ya the young there's
the same thing as Google. That'sdifferent, They ask Jeeves, that's permissible

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being anything you get from there willbe fine. Uh and probably wrong.
Hot take take that, ask Jeevesdot com any real quick Yeah, just
a quick word from our sponsor.At this point in the podcast, ask
Jeeves dot com. I got aquestion we will try. Is Google blocked

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at your work for some reason?Asked Jeeves. So more about more about
friends, but I'm gonna try tokeep us try. I forgot what the
story was more about friends for aDan, because he's he was kind of
a cool guy. Again. Hemarried his actual love, which in this
day was quite a thing. That'sawesome. He wasn't. He was an
avid hunter, and this was lessawesome. He took meticulous notes about the

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number of animals he killed, andit's it's they've added it up. He's
literally personally murdered more than two hundredand seventy thousand creatures. Holy man,
this man is a human housecat.Yeah, he got an awful lot done
in this day. Else to tellyou what else was he doing besides murdering

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animals and making love to his love, I don't know, but he u
he apparently at one point a yearbefore being assassinated, by Gabrielo. He
shot a white deer, and thatwas supposed to be a curse, and
everybody was saying that, oh,you know, you're gonna you're gonna die
in the year, and you know, he kind of he actually kind of

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believed it. He was a littlebit worried about it. He was kind
of, you know, kind offatalistic about that. Well it came true
because he killed a clear someone's patronusif it was a white deer, was
it out in the woods drinking froma small pond with a small boy being
attacked by large cloaked figures, becausethen I already know this story, and
I know how World War once startedwith War Crux's all right, let's take

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you all. Let's take you allto a June twenty eighth, nineteen fourteen
in Sarajevo. Right, So,Archduke Ferdinand he's in he's in town to
inspect the Austrian forces here because they'vegot kind of a semi occupier role here
and they're they're, you know,getting all the troops out and he's there
to kind of inspect them and makesure that everybody's doing right. Because his

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wife is not respected by her hisdad, the King. He was able
to bring Sophie along and give herlike a full state basically parade, and
show her around, which he couldn'tdo in Austria Hungary because this territory was
a little bit wonky as far aswhat was allowed. So they were traveling

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around in a limousine with an opentop and greeting the people. Yeah,
you know, if history has taughtus anything, open top, limos can
only mean one thing. Oh,especially if it's been a hot place like
I don't know, Texas, Texas, you know, speaking of books,
Sarajevo. Okay, oh God,Gavrilo, Prince Eppe and a couple other

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of his would be assassins. Theylined this the route. They knew the
route that our duke ferdand was goingto take through this. How did they
know that? They just take thesame route every time. Probably it's really
involved. I didn't want to gotoo far into it. It's really involved.
They like they like stayed with abunch of people, and they had
like some police help, and likesomeone they stayed with. Their dad was

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a policeman and he met up withsomebody on a train like this, all
kinds of like, how did theyfigure this out? How did they get
here? So they did try tokeep it secret. Yeah yeah, okay,
cool. So there were a numberof men on this route and as
the car went by, the firsttwo would be assassins kind of either they
checked out or their their bombs didn'twork, and they were given bombs like

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if you can imagine that like LooneyTune looking bomb, you know, like
with a giant like it basically lookedlike that. They were like some of
the original grenades. They had aten second timer. Um. But of
course, you know they were veryunreliable because they were so new. So
when the third assassin in the rowhere, um, let me see his

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name is nigelco Cabernovic, when hethrew his bomb, it actually bounced off
good friends Ferdinand's car and rolled underthe next car and blew up. This
is like, this is just likelouty tubes where it's the coyote trying to
get the You know what they shouldhave done is they should have painted a

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tunnel on the side of a mountainand then the car would drive into the
mountain. If only, if onlythey could send them back in time and
make that a little reality Okay,So the bomb went off and basically it
didn't injure the the Archduke Ferdinand,or it didn't injure Sophie either, but
the car behind them that there weresome of the other members of their their

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retinue whatever was going was traveling withthem, and they got hurt, some
of their security deal detail got hurt. They weren't killed, but they were
they were suffering from some wounds here. Yeah, and so they were immediately
like they stopped the route and theyact legend and stopped they sped past,
and so Gavrila was further down theline in this like lining the parade route.

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I just want to say he wassix or seventh out of all these
guys. Oh, I forgot tomention all of these dudes, they were
already terminally ill. What they allhad, they all suffered from tuberculosis,
and knew they didn't have long tolive. So that's why they were willing
to throw them all the assassins.All the assassins. They went to the
tuberculosis ward around and everybody up.I mean, that's not really what they

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did, but they you know,they knew that these these guys were dying,
so that they were going to dothis. I don't know. A
yeah, I get that you havenothing to lose, but also I don't
know if I want to hire anassassin who has a nasty cough. God,
No, I get him. Iget him as long as stealth as
an important Yeah, he can't sneakup on anybody. Give me a bomb.

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What is it, honey? Wakeup? Someone's coughing in our house.
So that first bomb goes off,and then the car with Ferdinand and
his wife goes speeding by, andhe goes speeding by. Givriel. He
can't doesn't have time to act.It's all too fast, um. And
they end up at this this complexwhere the mayor is there whether we're going

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to give this big speech, andthe mayor starts going into his speech like
for no particular reason, and likefriends, Ferdinand is, you know,
like covered in blood, you know, from his friends, and like a
bomb just blew up. And themayor goes into the speech and he has
this has this quote that everybody heardhim yell because he just started yelling at
this man. He said, whatis the good of your speeches? I

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come to Sarajevo on a visit andI get bombs thrown at me. It
is outrageous. I wrote a reallygood speech. Can I just finish it?
Please? Just let me finish thisspeech. I wrote this speech for
the I stayed up at night.I was practicing. I mean, one
hundred years ago. That was someserious shit talking. That was just a
smack yeah wow. Okay. Sohere's where we get into the mistake.

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Right, the Archduke is alive.This is hold on. The mistake hasn't
happened yet. These bombs are perfect. Don't blame these bombs. Yeah,
okay, they're perfect bombs. Theassassination attempt has been a failure, and
they're they're meeting at this and Iforget exactly where it is. I'm just
gonna call the may Starbucks. Itwasn't the mayor's house, but we're gonna
call the mayor's house. Okay,at the mayor's house Starbucks, then Starbucks,

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and they're talking about what they shoulddo, and they're like, well,
we should just continue, you know, the inspection. And one of
the generals says, oh, weshould bring our troops to line the streets
and make sure everything safe, andthen they like laugh this guy down they're
like, oh, what do youthink our streets are just you know,
swimming an assassins hahahahaha. And theydecide too. They decide to continue the
parade inspection, but they alter theroute. They say, we're not going

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to drive on the same route becausethat's probably super dumb. Yes, so
they decide to alter the route justjust be less dumb. Yeah, that's
all we're looking for, just alittle less dumb than we were. Like
they thought about it, like,hey, all right, So apparently mister
Ferdinand, sorry the Duke Ferdinand.Apparently there's some guys out there who have

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you really want to kill you,super want to kill you, have planned
on killing you, have roly cartoonybombs. Have you seen the latest cartoons?
They got cartoony bombs. Man,they don't have tunnels? Do they
painted on mountains? I'm terrified.Our intelligence says that they do not have
paint tunnel technology. Yet we knowthat they're working on it. We've known

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that they've ordered. We have oursecret ACME corporation set up sending them all
their stuff. Look, they tooktheir one shot. I'm sure they're over
it. Our assassins are a lotlike teenage boys. They get upset really
easy, but they forget about itin the long run. So we're safe.
I promise you on your life thatyou're safe. Okay, sounds good

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and off let's start the car.So before they decide to go continue the
route, Archduke Ferdinand is insistent thathe wants to visit the people that were
injured at the hospital. Oh that'snice. Yeah, so far, this
guy's pretty cool. He is prettycool. Thousands and thousands of animal death,

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but you know that's you know,let's not let's not gloss over how
weird he was with killing animals.So they, uh, they end up
driving to the hospital. Now here'sthe thing in their in their train of
cars, right, the driver wasnot told of the changed route. So

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the one person that needs to betold this, okay, yeah, the
driver Fernance car Franz Urban. Hewas not informed of the Champans. Franz
is driving. France is friends areFunds or Franz or the France. You
know, I'm gonna say it's Franzbecause I think that's that's correct. Yeah,
but but I'm the driver and Iprefer Franz. Oh you're gonna you're

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gonna hate this next sentence because FranzUrban was driving Franz Ferdinand turning down Franz
Joseph Street. No, stop it, Nope, true, Franz turned down
Franz quick, Franz. Franz turneddown Franz. Franz. Hey, Franz
can turn the Franz. Yeah,Friandz. Okay, Franz, Hey,
are we best? Franz, You'remy restaurants are my only? Franz Franz

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take it from me, Franz gotit? Oh, everyone hates this joke,
yes, the worst except for me. No, you know who really
hates this joke? Anybody named Franz. So they turned down Franz Jos Joseph
Street. And the man who hasbeen kind of Franz Ferdinand's uh, I
want to want to say, ladyin waiting, No any waiting? Yeah,

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No, his his buddy, theguy who's like showing him around like
that. He's his name, OhHans. His name is General Poteauli Eric.
I'm gonna mangle that name. Soforgive me everyone who speaks any kind
of Slavic language as long as it'snot on the test and we don't have
to spell. Yeah, don't spellit. It won't be on the test.
I'm just going to call him Hansfrom now on. So there's in
front. He starts yelling at thedriver because he says, this is the

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wrong street. This isn't safe.We need to turn around and go up.
We need to go up and downa different road. At the exact
point where they stopped the car andstart reversing. Gavrillo Prince Epp was out
front of Schiller's deli. Now,legend has it, and there's very little

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historical evidence to this, that hejust decided to grab a sandwich, and
so he happened to be standing onthe street corner where the man he had
traveled here to assassinate suddenly came toa screeching halt five feet in front of
him. Oh my god. Thisis like when you go into a Jimmy
Johns and a beautiful girl walks outsidelike it's destiny. Yeah. Also a

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little known fact that Jimmy John's guyhas killed a bunch of animals. It's
a beautiful simile. Yes, uhyeah, what can I get you?
I'm looking for a bombs and tomato? All right, BLT coming right out?
Excuse me? For a minute,I've got a guy to kill.
Oh God. So, for whateverreason that he was there just five feet

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away, he pulled. He didn'thave time, or he knew that lighting
the fuse on his bomb would taketoo long. He pulled out his pistol
and was able to get off twoshots. One shot struck the archduke in
the neck, and the other hitSophie, his wife, in the abdomen.
Oh Sophie, dude, she didnothing. Also friends, but Sophie,

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Yeah, many animals did she killwith her bare hands? Yeah?
They? They both died very quickly. Um and friends for NaN's last words
were begging his wife to stay alivefor the children. Um, you know,
like you do. Um, Andthat started the entire World War One.

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Nonsense. But back in Gavrilla's world, I mean, obviously, the
all the people in the street mobbedhim and started beating him up, and
the police pride him away from themand arrested him. He was we looked
this up here. I'm gonna getthis wrong. Did he get a sandwich
named after him? At this deleate, There's so many question It's just a

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it's a club sandwich with two shotsa vodka. I was trying to think
of a check alcohol. I thinkit's vodka. Yeah, I think vodka.
Yeah. All right, So theAustria hungerand authorities arrested most of the
Sereobou assassins, and Gabriella Princepp hada very unique thing going for him.

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They had a law that you couldnot put anyone to death if you were
under twenty one I'm sorry, twentyyears of age. And Gabriel Princepp was
nineteen years years, eleven months andlike a couple weeks. But he also
had tuberculosis. He did, hedid, but that didn't matter to them.
They were very anxious to put himto death. And they found some

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like a bit of paperwork that waslike filed incorrectly that said maybe he was
born in June instead of July.And they they had like you know,
like court filings of on it forforever. But they determined he was actually
under twenty and so couldn't be putto death. He was given the maximum

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sentence, which was twenty years.Yeah, but of course he well,
I mean, you know, whenyou have tuberculosis, it doesn't really matter.
Yeah, he was. He diedin prison in nineteen eighteen after a
kind of seeing what had become ofthe world and everything that he had he
had done there, did he say, uh, oopsie or sorry or name

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it the Turkey Bulosis? No?No, no, he didn't say anything
because at the time it was calledlike the War to End all Wars or
the Great War or terrible name couldI couldn't find anything on what, um
what any if anything he said.They know that he lived to kind of
see the aftermath, but we don'tknow. I mean, I don't know

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what his reaction was. The coupleof kind of addendums here. Um.
One is that because he was sucha you know, he was basically advocating
uh Slavic independence, especially for youknow, Yugoslavia. Um, he's kind
of seen in some circles as ahero and in some most I'll say,

(25:37):
as a villain. Yeah. Imean, there's still kind of like you
know, banks Banksy artwork about himeverywhere. You know, some of him
looking you know, cool and youngand thank good as he did this,
and some you know, he's definitelya mixed a mixed bag in the in
that area. I didn't say,apart from his weird thing about killing animals
as frequently as he could. Hedidn't sound too bad. No, it

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led to World War One and essentiallyWorld War Two because the way that we
ended World War One. Absolutely yeah. I mean there's a lot of debate
whether it would have happened anyway,or whether this really did, you know,
spark the war, or whether everyonewas sitching for a war anyway.
There's a famous quote I wanted toend on the great Prussian statesman out of

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On Bismarck. That's not his name. That's a great name, yea aut
of On Bismarck. Nope, that'shis name. I call shenanigans On.
The teacher made up dame. Heunified Germany or was most responsible for it.
And he said in eighteen seventy one, one day the Great European War
will come out of sam some damnfoolish thing in the Balkans. Wow.

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Wow, he was completely right.Was at the time just kind of like
a racist thing to say, andit turned out to be right. I
mean I assume everything said from likeeighty you know, in that era untill
about a year ago, was superracist. Yeah, any race, like
every race. I mean, itdidn't matter what color your skin was,
if you were just slightly different inany way. Everyone was just a racist

(27:10):
asshole to everybody. Yep, Imean that you're still talking. You're still
in the era of like phrenology,like you know, well, we're still
in heavy head ridges. I meanyou've got a certain level. Yeah,
intellig was it was Audvon constantly spoutingoff stuff like that. But it was
this guy just constantly just yelling athousand monkeys with a thousand typewriters. Right,
Eventually, it's just gonna work outfor you. Yeah. Also,

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did is he the reason why it'scalled the Autobon? Oh? I don't.
I don't know. That's the totalspelling is completely different, but okay
close though you can call it theAudubon though and that, but it's why
it's called Bismarck, North Dakota.Oh man, Wow, So any any
interest, any questions anything you guyswant to know about the assassins or anything

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else in that and that era.Just thought it to open it up for
questions here. I would like youto do a quick explanation. I think
I remember, but of the seriesof events that led to World War One
because of this, like didn't solike hungry. I'm not an expert in
it. So there were a numberof treaties that were put together that said,

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oh, if you attack this country, then we're going to come to
your defense. So it was reallya very confusing map of that kind of
stuff. So basically Austria Hungary declared. A month later, on July twenty
eighth, Austria Hungry declared war onSerbia yep. And then you know,
within the week it was a Russia, Belgium, France, Great Britain had

(28:48):
all declared war on Austria Hungary toback Serbia. And then Austria, Hungary
and Germany joined forces and World WarOne was often going God, that escalated
quickly, yes, And I meanagain, World War one is is a
bonkers thing that we can talk aboutall. It's on its own, you
know, about people trying to fightthe last war with the current wars technology,

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and it was just awful, youknow, yeh, like like,
well we still have calvalry attack,Like no, they have machine guns.
We have to really put the calvalryack, put the horses away everyone, and
they just made tanks like they hadjust invented tanks, right. Oh,
yeah, there were a couple usedin World War One. But they were
not. That's the that's the trenchwarfare war. Yes, okay, yeah,

(29:34):
yeah, every in trenches and miserableand mustard gas and yeah, a
lot of a lot of poisonous gasesin America. Joining late in nineteen seventeen.
Well that's our style, that's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We show up late to the partyand then we pretend like we started the
party and yeah, and we're likewe won the party, and everyone else
is like, hey, we werefighting this whole time and also won,

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and we're like, hey, wewon the party. Yeah, America is
just the fons two fonds references orthree. Yeah, any other questions,
Mike, I got nothing. Didhe get to eat the sandwich? I
mean, unfortunately, like nobody mentionsa sandwich until I want to say,

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like the nineteen eighties, you know, I think it's it's just because it
was out front of a deli.Then thinks somebody put the connection there,
like, oh man, if hedidn't get hungry for that sandwich, it's
just it makes such an intriguing storyand intriguing anecdote that you want it to
be true. But it's it's probablytrue that you know, he went to
try find somewhere else on the routewhere he could you know, he's got

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this bomb in this pistol and tuberculosis, you know, and he's like,
might as well take another stab attrying to kill this guy. And he
ended up being in the exact rightor wrong place at the exact right or
wrong time. But he could haveyou know, been hungry for soup or
one of those big Deli pickles orall kinds of things didn't need to be

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and which yeah, fully he hadjust gone down the street. Absolutely,
was there a pizza hut close by? You could have gone. There's always
a pizza close by. You canbe there as they're they're riddled, they're
all over the places. Would youget Yeah, I would say mistakes were
made. Yeah, Yeah, Mistakeswere made, were made, Mistakes,
Mistakes were made. Mistakes